| greghaynes | Or we could switch to ISO's, those are universal! | 00:02 |
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| clarkb | vpc | 00:05 |
| mordred | clarkb: I totally agree with those three letters | 00:06 |
| mordred | clarkb: but I do not know what they mean in this context | 00:06 |
| clarkb | the xen format | 00:06 |
| clarkb | >_> | 00:06 |
| mordred | yah | 00:06 |
| mordred | this is amongst the reasons that I think we shoudl be uploading $something to glance and not needing to know hypervisor format | 00:06 |
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| lifeless | mordred: the AKI/ARI/AMI format permits directory trees | 00:15 |
| lifeless | mordred: its only kvm that really wants qcow2, and things have copied it | 00:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lars Kellogg-Stedman proposed a change to stackforge/kolla: fix issues with build-docker-image https://review.openstack.org/126174 | 01:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lars Kellogg-Stedman proposed a change to stackforge/kolla: add openssl to base image https://review.openstack.org/126210 | 01:32 |
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| untriaged-bot | No untriaged bugs so far! \o/ | 03:00 |
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| SpamapS | mordred: regarding environment.d, that is not run-parts'd .. it is sourced | 06:49 |
| GheRivero | morning all | 06:49 |
| SpamapS | ah n/m I see somebody answered that | 06:49 |
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| SpamapS | GheRivero: howdy | 06:57 |
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| GheRivero | SpamapS: congrats PTL :) | 06:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Add MySQL and PostgreSQL test cases https://review.openstack.org/125958 | 07:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add initial svc-map support https://review.openstack.org/104196 | 07:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marios Andreou proposed a change to openstack/os-collect-config: Bump hacking to 0.9.x series https://review.openstack.org/108296 | 08:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tomas Sedovic proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Load the storage roles in Tuskar if they exist https://review.openstack.org/125354 | 08:08 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Make a sentence less ambiguous in README https://review.openstack.org/122930 | 08:13 |
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| shadower | lsmola: thanks for the +A. Here's the updated t-i-e patch https://review.openstack.org/125354 | 08:38 |
| lsmola | shadower: have you tried to run instack with this patch? | 08:39 |
| shadower | lsmola: not yet | 08:39 |
| lsmola | shadower: ok please do and let me know, I can't verify it right now | 08:40 |
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| untriaged-bot | No untriaged bugs so far! \o/ | 09:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Rename CONTRIBUTING to contributing https://review.openstack.org/125623 | 09:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Dougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Update the README and Documentation Index https://review.openstack.org/125598 | 09:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Dougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Update Tuskar Contribution Guidelines https://review.openstack.org/125597 | 09:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Dougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Update Tuskar Install Documentation https://review.openstack.org/125596 | 09:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Use DIB_IMAGE_CACHE everywhere https://review.openstack.org/126201 | 10:23 |
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| chmouel | mordred: interesting, but is the Dockerfiles syntax that good to make it the way to specify how to build images? | 10:40 |
| chmouel | mordred: i guess the caching is nifty | 10:40 |
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| GheRivero | wow... HP to be split in two | 10:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tomas Sedovic proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Load the storage roles in Tuskar if they exist https://review.openstack.org/125354 | 10:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Ana Krivokapic proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Refactor the filter_nodes() function https://review.openstack.org/126259 | 10:59 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Use --resource-registry parameter https://review.openstack.org/126041 | 11:01 |
| regebro | Why does my undercloud dissapear when I reboot? | 11:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tuskar-ui: Adding tests for generating parameters https://review.openstack.org/125939 | 11:11 |
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| toabctl | slagle: hey. friendly reminder for another review round of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117704/ | 11:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radomir Dopieralski proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Changed service configuration table to multiple tabs https://review.openstack.org/126087 | 12:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radomir Dopieralski proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Fix unsupported format character error https://review.openstack.org/126281 | 12:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ana Krivokapic proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Add a generic function for filtering API objects https://review.openstack.org/126259 | 13:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tuskar-ui: Only run the js for progress/plan edit on the right pages https://review.openstack.org/126292 | 13:57 |
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| rameshg87 | dprince, hi | 14:02 |
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| dprince | rameshg87: hi | 14:04 |
| rameshg87 | dprince, i have a query regarding one of my reviews https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123642/2 | 14:04 |
| rameshg87 | dprince, we need a functionality to in diskimage-builder to create bootable iso images from the deploy kernel/ramdisk (for ilo driver in ironic) | 14:05 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: haproxy global maxconn is less than default maxconn https://review.openstack.org/125675 | 14:05 |
| rameshg87 | dprince, i got a comment saying it's better to add the functionality into an element, rather than adding a standalone script as diskimage-builder favors elements | 14:06 |
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| rameshg87 | dprince, does diskimage-builder favor an element over standalone-script ? | 14:07 |
| dprince | rameshg87: it is a valid point. What you are doing isn't wrong though. I suppose for me it depends on how you'd like the workflow... | 14:08 |
| rameshg87 | dprince, the reason why we favored script was that the same one exists in another project ironic-python-agent | 14:10 |
| rameshg87 | dprince, we have submitted it there | 14:10 |
| rameshg87 | dprince, https://github.com/openstack/ironic-python-agent/blob/master/imagebuild/coreos/iso-image-create | 14:11 |
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| dprince | rameshg87: so you could (If you wanted) move that over into the diskimage-builder elemenets I guess. Definately wouldn't duplicate it. | 14:13 |
| dprince | rameshg87: or if it makes sense just leave it where it is and update your review w/ your reasons. I'm not hugely oppinionated on this one, sorry :) | 14:14 |
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| rameshg87_ | dprince, thanks | 14:16 |
| rameshg87_ | dprince, got disconnected. i will update the review. | 14:17 |
| dprince | rameshg87_: cool, I'll follow up there too. cheers | 14:17 |
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| untriaged-bot | No untriaged bugs so far! \o/ | 15:00 |
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| mordred | chmouel: it's not at all, actually, which is why I think dib on docker can be broadly useful | 15:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ana Krivokapic proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Fix filtering on the node overview page https://review.openstack.org/126328 | 15:43 |
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| greghaynes | mordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110366/ was the static file patch I was thinking of yesterday | 15:48 |
| greghaynes | If we have to mess with everything doing file injection maybe its worth doing a miagrate all the things run over to that system | 15:48 |
| mordred | greghaynes: eek - why would we mess with file injection? | 15:50 |
| mordred | greghaynes: oh! great - that's exactly the facility I wanted | 15:50 |
| greghaynes | I might be misusing that term - basically everything trying to put static files in images | 15:50 |
| mordred | yah | 15:50 |
| mordred | I'll poke at that - that's exactly what I was just about to write | 15:51 |
| mordred | I'm basically thinking, fwiw, of doing a "sync all the files" right after extra-data - so that if extra-data wants to construct files it can | 15:51 |
| mordred | but I was working on a thing exactly like but not quite as good as that | 15:52 |
| mordred | greghaynes: btw - it's a fun task to have to go through _every_ element and see where things are poking in to the mounted fs | 15:52 |
| mordred | because it's caused me to find a bunch of places where stuff is done in cleanup.d or root.d that _REALLY_ do not need to be there | 15:52 |
| * mordred should go back and split those out into patches that come befor the docker patch ... finding ways to minimize the giant size of this patch are hard | 15:53 | |
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| greghaynes | Not very surprised, we have a lot of new ways of doing things and seem to not be great about cleaning up old code | 15:54 |
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| sdake | morning | 15:55 |
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| larsks | sdake: howdy! | 16:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/kolla: add openssl to base image https://review.openstack.org/126210 | 16:04 |
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| crobertsrh | Is this the place to ask questions about diskimage-builder? | 16:16 |
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| crobertsrh | I'll ask anyway...When building a qcow2 image, it works fine, but when I add -t tar to make a docker importable image, I get the following at the end of my output http://paste.openstack.org/show/119027/ The resultant tar file is present in the work directory and it loads and runs fine. What can I do to fix the problem in the paste? | 16:18 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Switch to using generate-ssl-cert https://review.openstack.org/126343 | 16:20 |
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| greghaynes | crobertsrh: nice! | 16:21 |
| crobertsrh | hmmm, "nice!"? :) | 16:21 |
| greghaynes | I wonder if tar is just exit 1ing because of that socket warning and we are interpreting that as failure | 16:23 |
| SpamapS | goooooood morning Triple-O | 16:24 |
| greghaynes | 'morning | 16:24 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: Did you see my Q about heat deleting a nova server instance in a CI run? | 16:24 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: yes that is indeed very weird | 16:24 |
| crobertsrh | That might explain it. I'm a little new to disk image building, so I'm a little unsure on a good debugging technique. | 16:24 |
| greghaynes | Can confirm - is wierd | 16:24 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: It is entirely possible that we've accidentally turned on rollback. | 16:25 |
| greghaynes | crobertsrh: So an easy start is to change the sudo tar ... in bin/disk-image-create to have a --exclude ./dev/log | 16:27 |
| greghaynes | crobertsrh: if that works then we know the issue | 16:27 |
| crobertsrh | Ok, I should be able to make that happen. Thanks. | 16:28 |
| greghaynes | What kind of image are you building? | 16:28 |
| crobertsrh | It's actually a Centos7 image with some bits for Sahara (openstack data processing) | 16:28 |
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| greghaynes | ah, I wonder if this is a centos7 thing | 16:28 |
| crobertsrh | Could be. I had to use the -n flag to get around some other failures that I was having. | 16:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | therese-mchale proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Secure the MySQL bind-address on the seed https://review.openstack.org/126348 | 16:37 |
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| sdake | larsks your post on endpoints seems like a rockin solution | 16:43 |
| sdake | did you implement it yet? | 16:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Perform heat stack-show on test failure https://review.openstack.org/126350 | 16:46 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: my local devtest says rollback is disabled :/ | 16:46 |
| greghaynes | looking in CI with this patch ^ but im not hopeful for different results | 16:46 |
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| larsks | sdake: implemented, yes... As per links in the post. I have not yet proposed any of the changes via Gerrit. All day meeting today... | 16:48 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: it's entirely possible that a transient bug flipped that. | 16:49 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: might as well also 'heat event-list' | 16:50 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Perform heat stack-show, event-list on test fail https://review.openstack.org/126350 | 16:52 |
| greghaynes | sure, why not | 16:52 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: sweeeet | 16:54 |
| sdake | all day meetings ftl | 16:55 |
| sdake | larsks cool thanks :) | 16:55 |
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| sdake | larsks did your crux change go in? | 16:59 |
| larsks | No, you -1'd it :). | 17:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Erik Colnick proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add logic to ensure vlan configuration is persisted https://review.openstack.org/125118 | 17:00 |
| openstackgerrit | therese-mchale proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Secure the MySQL bind-address on the seed https://review.openstack.org/126348 | 17:01 |
| larsks | sdake: You argued for a "sleep" operation, but I think that waiting for a successful response from the api is much more robust -- scheduling issues can always mean that your sleep operation will finish before things are working. | 17:01 |
| sdake_ | agree | 17:02 |
| crobertsrh | greghaynes: adding ./dev/log to the --exclude for the sudo tar did eliminate that warning, but the rest of the message remains the same...losetup: /dev/loop1: detach failed: No such device or address (yada yada yada) | 17:02 |
| sdake_ | I wasn't arguing for a sleep more like a correct function in the race situation | 17:02 |
| sdake_ | but maybe i was unclear :) | 17:02 |
| sdake_ | too bad sleep has legitimate use cases in computer science | 17:03 |
| sdake_ | it causes all kinds of havoc because of the illegitmate use cases | 17:03 |
| larsks | It sounds like you were arguing for a sleep. You said, "I would prefer the safety of a sleep operation" | 17:04 |
| larsks | I don't think a sleep operation would lend any safety here. | 17:04 |
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| greghaynes | crobertsrh: I think thats fine | 17:06 |
| greghaynes | crobertsrh: did it not work? | 17:07 |
| greghaynes | er | 17:07 |
| greghaynes | did the image not get built | 17:07 |
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| crobertsrh | The image does get built and it works | 17:08 |
| crobertsrh | I suspect that a bad exit code is still happening though because my calling script bails after that | 17:08 |
| crobertsrh | (the calling script tries to move the created file out of the "work" directory) | 17:08 |
| crobertsrh | but that line never gets called | 17:08 |
| crobertsrh | I can do some work on my caller to hopefully handle this case | 17:09 |
| greghaynes | ah, the unmount is looping and giving up... hrm | 17:09 |
| greghaynes | I wonder if losetup is just returning a bad exit code for you | 17:09 |
| crobertsrh | Yeah, not the biggest error ever | 17:10 |
| greghaynes | what is the exit code for losetup -d /dev/loop6 for you? | 17:10 |
| greghaynes | er | 17:10 |
| greghaynes | no, try is the one testing it | 17:10 |
| crobertsrh | looks like 1 | 17:11 |
| sdake_ | larsks agree | 17:12 |
| sdake_ | I'm not sure where my brain was that day | 17:12 |
| sdake_ | what I really meant was as is, the kill is supe rracey | 17:12 |
| sdake_ | a sleep would be less racey | 17:12 |
| sdake_ | but clearly not ideal | 17:13 |
| sdake_ | better would be to run crux ag ain possibly | 17:13 |
| sdake_ | then the db would sync | 17:13 |
| larsks | I'm not worried about the kill. If it turns out to be a problem feel free to say "I told you so". | 17:13 |
| sdake_ | ;-) | 17:13 |
| larsks | I would argue that if keystone is returning a succesful completion status to the caller, it's keystone's problem at that point. | 17:14 |
| greghaynes | crobertsrh: so, AFAICT the loopback thing shouldnt cause the build to bail out | 17:14 |
| greghaynes | crobertsrh: easy way to make sure is to just change the return val from where it return 1's to return 0, but I suspect that error is a red herring | 17:15 |
| greghaynes | this is based on my jet-lagged brain's interpretation of the code, so testing is good :) | 17:15 |
| crobertsrh | Ok. I'll keep poking around. Thanks for your help | 17:15 |
| greghaynes | np | 17:15 |
| crobertsrh | I submitted a bug, just in case this is something "real" | 17:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Hallisey proposed a change to stackforge/kolla: Initial setup for nova-controller https://review.openstack.org/126305 | 17:18 |
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| * greghaynes really wants a release of os-cloud-config to be cut | 17:25 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Lars Kellogg-Stedman proposed a change to stackforge/kolla: use "crux" for creating users/endpoints https://review.openstack.org/126067 | 17:26 |
| larsks | (rebased on master, just in case) | 17:26 |
| greghaynes | mordred: is that ^ why you brought up crux distro earlier? | 17:29 |
| mordred | greghaynes: it's not | 17:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Hallisey proposed a change to stackforge/kolla: Initial setup for nova-controller https://review.openstack.org/126305 | 17:33 |
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| mordred | sdake_: did you see I started on the docker-dib patch? | 17:35 |
| mordred | sdake_: https://review.openstack.org/126194 | 17:36 |
| mordred | crobertsrh: also, ^^ I'm working on a dib patch that would avoid you needing to make an image and then import it into docker | 17:36 |
| crobertsrh | mordred: Awesome! I can't wait to see it in action! | 17:36 |
| sdake_ | mordred nice! | 17:38 |
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| sdake_ | mordred I hadn't seen that, My kids took over the network with diablo 3 this weekend | 17:38 |
| sdake_ | including my workstation | 17:38 |
| mordred | sdake_: it's probably a couple of days of hacking away - but it's actually not too bad of a patch | 17:39 |
| mordred | the majority of the changes are in elements | 17:39 |
| sdake_ | cool I'll check it out in 10 mins after my meeting | 17:39 |
| mordred | if I get some time later today, I'll move it further | 17:39 |
| mordred | sdake_: I expect the current patch to not work at all, btw, it's up mainly to let people know it's in work and for discussion of approaches | 17:40 |
| mordred | but feedback definitely desired! | 17:40 |
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| larsks | rhallisey: sorry! :) | 17:42 |
| rhallisey | larsks, for what? | 17:42 |
| larsks | rhallisey: more comments on that review :) | 17:42 |
| rhallisey | larsks, nice, I welcome them :) | 17:43 |
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| larsks | rhallisey: fyi, same comments re: nova-compute.json... | 17:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lars Kellogg-Stedman proposed a change to stackforge/kolla: added hautoproxy auto-configuring haproxy https://review.openstack.org/126373 | 17:59 |
| SpamapS | + dib-run-parts /tmp/image.EtCsptI0/hooks/root.d | 18:03 |
| SpamapS | /home/clint/src/diskimage-builder/bin/../lib/common-functions: line 200: dib-run-parts: command not found | 18:03 |
| SpamapS | Hm | 18:03 |
| SpamapS | been a while since I ran diskimage-builder on this box.. but this seems like something else | 18:03 |
| SpamapS | oh | 18:03 |
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| SpamapS | dib-utils requirement added interesting | 18:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Clint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Do not try to detach non-existant loopback devices https://review.openstack.org/126375 | 18:05 |
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| SpamapS | sdake_: meeting? | 20:01 |
| sdake_ | SpamapS yup sorry 1 min lat e:( | 20:02 |
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| SpamapS | wow do we really not do any actual CA work on PKI tokens? | 20:34 |
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| SpamapS | oh I see.. we pass in the keys via Heat so we don't need the CA.. hrrrrrrmmmm | 20:35 |
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| untriaged-bot | No untriaged bugs so far! \o/ | 21:00 |
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| sdake_ | launchpad is busted | 21:31 |
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| tchaypo | Morning all! | 21:34 |
| * tchaypo returns from a week of leave + long weekend | 21:34 | |
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| sdake_ | kolla folks - here is how you do a search for kolla reviews: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/kolla,n,z | 21:42 |
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| tchaypo | I've mis-typed exclude about 5 different ways so far this morning | 22:12 |
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| mordred | tchaypo: I often mis-type it "include" which has specific consequences | 22:27 |
| lifeless | rather | 22:32 |
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| * tchaypo reads lots of email | 22:37 | |
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| tchaypo | okay, that's the internal email done | 22:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Create element to preserve passwd and group https://review.openstack.org/126427 | 22:54 |
| tchaypo | congrats SpamapS | 22:54 |
| * SpamapS bows | 22:55 | |
| SpamapS | tchaypo: want to be the oslo liason? ;) | 22:55 |
| tchaypo | I'm not sure what that means, so it's hard to say | 22:58 |
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| tchaypo | I know what oslo is, and i know what a liaison does (and even how to spell it) | 22:59 |
| tchaypo | but I'm not sure why we need to liaise with oslo - is it just about making sure that we're okay with planned upgrades? | 22:59 |
| SpamapS | We should do work there when it pertains to any common library code we want to write or modify | 23:00 |
| SpamapS | such as oslo.config | 23:00 |
| SpamapS | which at one time I had pondered teaching to read our json :) | 23:00 |
| tchaypo | do we currently have a liaison? (perhaps it has been you and you're going to be busy now?) | 23:02 |
| SpamapS | hhmm.. that patch I just did should realy be t-i-e .. relying on preserve-ephemeral.. doh | 23:03 |
| SpamapS | tchaypo: no I don't know if we have one or if we need one | 23:03 |
| SpamapS | but I like delegating ;) | 23:03 |
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| tchaypo | I'm not sure if we need one either | 23:06 |
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