Tuesday, 2014-04-22

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zanebugh, Mirantis is still spamming me even after I unsubscribed00:50
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zanebwhat part of "Unsubscribe from all future emails" did they think was unclear?00:56
lifelesszaneb: unsubscribed doesn't mean you don't want the mail, right ?00:58
zanebcorrect, I don't want it00:58
zanebI don't know why they subscribed me in the first place00:59
zanebI guess they're spamming all foundation members00:59
zaneblooks like they changed their email platform00:59
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zaneband just started ignoring the previous opt-outs00:59
lifelessstevebaker: do you need me to test that patchset you hahve?01:00
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stevebakerlifeless: the resource-data ones?01:06
lifelessstevebaker: I presume so - the ones for the critical bug01:06
stevebakerlifeless: yes please, this changeset https://review.openstack.org/#/c/88499/01:07
zaneblifeless: "btw, who can review these within the system itself?" <- only you01:07
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lifelesszaneb: yea, thought so. fail-at-scaleout01:08
zanebit's #1 on my list of ways that the current definition of a PTL doesn't work01:09
asalkeldzaneb, lifeless I am sure randall and the other racker heat guys will have some input to the scaleout discussions01:15
asalkeld(I am not really involved with atm)01:16
asalkeldupto neck in solum01:16
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lipinskiany ideas why heat resource-list would hang?01:33
lipinskinevermind - found it in the engine log.  not liking a tab somewhere...01:35
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8923201:47
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aru__I am trying to receive stack CRUD events via subscriibng to qpid exchanges. My CRUD events are not sent by engine. How do I make sure CRUD events are sent?01:59
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mspreitzIs anybody awake?04:53
cmysterno04:53
mspreitzDoes anybody care whether heat-templates examples disable SELinux?04:53
cmysterwell, I personally don't :)04:54
mspreitzThat makes it unanimous!04:54
cmysteryup!04:54
cmysterIf you are in a place that forces SElinux to work and then you go ahead and disable that with heat, then one might consider that an issue. Depends on the environment04:55
skraynevMorning all05:00
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Using new attribute schema for all resources  https://review.openstack.org/8933105:26
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Make attributes definition similar on properties  https://review.openstack.org/8933205:26
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Deprecate first_address attribute of Server  https://review.openstack.org/8652605:26
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/8850906:09
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openstackgerritMitsuru Kanabuchi proposed a change to openstack/heat: Cherry pick oslo-incubator graceful stop function  https://review.openstack.org/8948406:18
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openstackgerritMike Spreitzer proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: Worked on Fedora 20 examples in HOT  https://review.openstack.org/8852306:26
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therveGood morning!06:39
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pas-hamorning all :)07:10
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cmystermorning07:27
shardy_afkmorning all!07:30
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cmystermorning07:37
cmysterswygue?07:38
cmystershardy: how was your long weekend ?07:38
shardycmyster: pretty good thanks! :)07:42
cmystergood, good,07:42
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cmysterI'm looking at  api.openstack.org/api-ref-orchestration.html#software-config in updating a software_deployment, which parameters are updateable? only the ones in the example?07:53
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shardycmyster: Software configs are immutable, but the PUT which updates software deployments can update any field I believe08:02
shardyhttps://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/service.py#L117008:03
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cmysternice thanks08:04
cmysterI did it a bit different for my needs but I want to make sure that when created it has at least something (easier to test later)08:04
shardycmyster: I see we may be missing input_values in the docs08:04
cmysteralso docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Heat::SoftwareDeployment states that it can has a name08:05
cmysterit even works :)08:05
cmysterit can have. sorry lolcats got me08:06
shardycmyster: Yeah, the resource takes a name, but that looks like it's mangled internally to an input value in the API call08:08
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therveshardy, Do you think I can piggy back the snapshot blueprint for restore, or should I create a new one?09:30
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openstackgerritThomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use the new oslotest library  https://review.openstack.org/8952510:02
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sdakemorning12:26
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shardymorning sdake12:26
therveHi sdake12:27
therveshardy, Do you think I can piggy back the snapshot blueprint for restore, or should I create a new one?12:27
therve(If you missed it)12:27
cmystermorning sdake12:28
shardytherve: Hi, IMO snapshot and restore from snapshot are one feature so one BP is fine12:29
therveshardy, Cool thanks12:29
shardytherve: I was initially thinking it could be a snapshot ID passed into update, but whatever interface makes sense is fine12:29
shardytherve: If you separate backup (persistent snapshot) from stack-owned snapshots, that may warrant a new BP12:30
therveYeah I won't handle backup for now12:30
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therveshardy, I was thinking of having a $stack/$stapsnot/restore endpoint for the API, as we have show and delete already12:31
therveBut we can discuss it in the future review :)12:31
shardytherve: sure that sounds reasonable12:31
SnowDusttherve : you refered this link https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/autoscaling.yaml#L6512:32
SnowDustin our last discussion12:32
cmysterSnowDust12:32
cmysterI remember you tried to ask me something the other day?12:32
SnowDustyea12:32
cmysterI wasn't here the last week or so12:33
shardytherve: It may be using the update logic internally but I guess we don't want to overload update too much given that it is already supporting check/converge as well as a normal update12:33
SnowDustso .. if i give a file path which is wrong i get12:33
SnowDust<urlopen error [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/opt/stack/testnode/templates/abcd.yaml'>12:33
shardytherve: as in overload the update API12:33
cmysterlegit12:33
SnowDustbut giving it rigth12:33
SnowDusti get another error12:33
SnowDustERROR: Every Resource object must contain a Type member.12:34
therveshardy, nodes12:34
therveshardy, nods even12:34
cmysterSnowDust: can you please pastbin the exact command that you are using and the version ?12:34
SnowDustversion : HeatTemplateFormatVersion: '2012-12-12'12:34
shardySnowDust: There's probably an error in your template12:34
shardyso pls paste that too ;)12:35
SnowDust:) as i say12:35
cmysterSnowDust: and by version I meant the heat version, not the template12:35
cmysterwhat do them cool kids use nowadays? heat --version ?12:36
therveThat's an interesting information though :)12:36
therveIf you use hot you don't want that version12:36
SnowDusthttp://paste.openstack.org/show/76625/12:39
SnowDust$ heat --version12:40
SnowDust0.2.9.1012:40
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therveYou need to use "Type" and "Properties" at the top level12:41
therveThe error is pretty clear12:41
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Making new attribute Schema mandatory  https://review.openstack.org/8955312:49
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Using attribute schema for building documentation  https://review.openstack.org/8680312:49
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Using new attribute schema for all resources  https://review.openstack.org/8933112:49
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Adding attribute schema class for attributes  https://review.openstack.org/8652512:49
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Make attributes definition similar on properties  https://review.openstack.org/8933212:49
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Deprecate first_address attribute of Server  https://review.openstack.org/8652612:49
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SnowDusttherve: i am refering the example pointed by you can u confirm what u said ?12:54
SnowDusthttps://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/autoscaling.yaml#L6512:55
SnowDusthttps://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/autoscaling.yaml#L6612:55
therveSnowDust, This is a HOT template. Notice it says heat_template_version: 2013-05-23 at the top12:55
SnowDustshould i change the version then ?12:55
therveOr use proper CFN syntax12:56
SnowDustok .. i got the mixup12:56
SnowDustlet me try12:56
SnowDustyes12:57
SnowDustthats the issue12:57
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SnowDusttherve: now after the template got validated13:04
SnowDusthere  i am back with " Invalid URL scheme file"13:04
SnowDust:)13:04
SnowDustthe original problem13:05
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therveSnowDust, There is no file in the template you paste13:06
thervepasted13:06
SnowDusttherve : line 2813:07
SnowDustin the pasted13:07
therveYou should pass file://something I think, and pass a stack file13:08
SnowDusti tried two alternate versions of heat.yaml13:08
SnowDustif i try without file:///13:08
SnowDustit shows13:08
SnowDustCould not fetch remote template 'heat.yaml': Invalid URL scheme "13:09
SnowDustif i try with file:///13:09
SnowDustit shows13:09
SnowDustCould not fetch remote template 'file:///temp/heat.yaml': Invalid URL scheme file"13:10
SnowDusttherve: u thr  ?13:11
shardySnowDust: I don't think you need file:/// as heatclient should resolve the path locally anyway13:12
SnowDustu mean i should get rid of _triple_slashes_13:12
shardytry type: /tmp/heat.yaml13:12
SnowDustshardy: let me try13:12
shardyor just put heat.yaml in the same directory as the template and cd there specifying type: heat.yaml13:13
shardyYou could also specify the file via an environment file and explicitly name the type (IMHO a better interface than type: foo.yaml)13:14
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SnowDustshardy: Could not fetch remote template  '/tmp/.heat.yaml': Invalid URL scheme "13:14
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SnowDustshardy: i put that in same directory13:15
SnowDustinitially then only i got the output13:15
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SnowDustshardy: i have kept the top level template and child templates in same directory13:15
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SnowDustshardy, therve: can any of you use the following for creating a stack http://paste.openstack.org/show/76625/13:16
SnowDustwith heat.yaml of your choice13:16
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SnowDustok .. i need to correct my paste too , it misses the spelling errors therve has already pointed out13:18
SnowDusttherve, shardy: http://paste.openstack.org/show/76633/13:21
SnowDustjust validate this13:21
therveLet's see13:21
therveSnowDust, So your heatclient is way too old13:24
therveOr not?13:24
therveWait I can't read13:24
SnowDusttherve: no its downloaded _today_13:24
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therveSnowDust, Okay. Well that works for me13:25
SnowDustyeah13:25
SnowDustso lets figure out heat.yaml13:25
SnowDust:)13:25
SnowDustthe nested stuff13:25
therveYou didn't paste your template13:25
SnowDusttherve: heat.yaml can be any of yours13:26
SnowDustas i said the file:/// url schema is in doubt here13:26
SnowDustnot the template13:26
therveNot really, it needs to have the properties that you have13:26
therveBut anyway13:26
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement update of AWS::EC2::SecurityGroup  https://review.openstack.org/8854813:26
SnowDusttherve: precisely true ..13:26
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SnowDusttherve: brb in an hour13:32
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cmysterthe DELETE method at software_configs is only accepting the config_id right ?13:35
shardycmyster: well, you use the DELETE method on a path containing the id, so yes13:36
cmysterI am trying to delete a software config and get an sql error: just wanted to be sure because now I am getting this error: paste.openstack.org/show/76639/13:37
cmysterbluh, lemme try and format it :)13:38
therveThat looks like a bug13:38
cmysteroh you can read it?13:39
shardyYeah, make sure your DB schema is up to date, and if it is, I'd raise a bug with steps explaning how to reproduce13:39
therveEnough to see it's a 500 :)13:39
cmysterja, but why :)13:39
shardyicouldreadititwasjustareallylongandunreadablestring13:40
shardy;)13:40
shardycmyster: if it's a bug, stevebaker will be the best person to say why13:40
cmysterI can see the why cording to the error message: (1048, \"Column \\'config_id\\' cannot be null\")13:42
cmysterthough iirc in the soft_config tests deletion is tested so it might be something on my side13:42
cmysterheat's API tests that is13:43
cmysterwill have to continue tomorrow... when's stevebaker usually about ?13:45
shardycmyster: it looks like you're trying to delete a software config, while a deployment still exists which depends on it?13:46
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/8850913:46
cmysterHmmm13:46
openstackgerritJason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix exceptions in update_stack  https://review.openstack.org/8940913:46
shardycmyster: normally late/very-early as he's based in new zealand13:47
cmysternz++13:47
cmysterumm13:47
therveYeah that's why I think it's a bug13:47
therveIt should tell you that you still have deployments for it13:47
cmysterwell the order of my tests deletes the deployment before I try to delete the config(s) I'll monitor with the sql client13:48
shardytherve: Yeah, agree, but it also explains why we're not seeing it driving that API via heat13:48
cmysterI do get 204 as expected though...13:48
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cmysterI'll have a quick look13:48
cmysterwell desc software_config does not have a config_id column. might be a bad version after all. tomorrow I'll retry a fresh stack.sh13:53
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zanebshardy: are you joining this tosca call?14:03
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shardyzaneb: trying to, number doesn't seem to work14:03
zanebshardy: strange. are you dialling from an openuc phone?14:04
zanebI thought that worked from anywhere if you put a 1 in front14:05
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement update of AWS::EC2::SecurityGroup  https://review.openstack.org/8854814:43
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spzalashardy: zaneb: Hi! Here is a link to the patch, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/88667/15:03
zanebspzala: thanks!15:03
shardyspzala: thanks!15:03
spzalazaneb: shardy: no problem. Thank you!!!15:03
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openstackgerritWilliam C. Arnold proposed a change to openstack/heat: Introduces stack lifecycle plugpoints  https://review.openstack.org/8936315:20
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openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Document the availability of OS::stack_name and OS::stack_id  https://review.openstack.org/8965117:20
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openstackgerritDmitry Borodaenko proposed a change to openstack/heat: Ignore nova limits set to '-1'  https://review.openstack.org/8938917:50
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SnowDusthello therve17:56
therveHey17:56
ramishraHello everyone17:57
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therveSnowDust, So you could you paste the 2 templates that you're using, and the error that you're getting?18:00
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ramishraCan someone from core please review this patch? it's been there since a month... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/82853/.. rebased it twice already...18:00
sdake_ok so your a drug dealer - choice A: sell to adults choice B: sell to high school kids with overprotective parents18:01
sdake_what would you choice?18:01
sdake_http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/22/us/pennsylvania-students-drug-bust/index.html?hpt=hp_t218:01
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sdake_can't fix stupid :(18:01
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ereciosdake, "They were using very traditional business principles"! ahahaha18:29
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SpamapSdoh...18:36
SpamapSI have a cron job running heat-admin purge .. and it prints this every time18:36
SpamapS2014-04-22 18:27:02.319 29281 WARNING heat.openstack.common.db.sqlalchemy.session [-] This application has not enabled MySQL traditional mode, which means silent data corruption may occur. Please encourage the application developers to enable this mode.18:36
SpamapSHeld 1761 messages in /var/mail/root18:36
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therveSpamapS, Yeah... This was fixed recently in master18:40
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SnowDusttherve: thanks18:47
SnowDustits working now18:47
SnowDustwith some changes in the child template required18:47
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therveSnowDust, hooray18:54
SnowDusthttps://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/templates/mysql/heat.template#L2118:55
SnowDustthis was the issue18:55
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SnowDustwe need proper heat template that was not there18:55
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therveNot sure I'm following18:59
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SnowDusttherve: many thanks .. :)19:02
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Add a log info message in Stack state_set  https://review.openstack.org/8868019:34
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lifelessstevebaker: bad news, still fails19:58
lifelessI've commented in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/88499/20:00
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SpamapSlifeless: I think that is because it really only helps with repeated requests.. the initial one still has to fetch a lot20:08
SpamapSlifeless: we just have to go to a model where things are all done at write time so polling is a simple stupid operation20:08
stevebakerSpamapS: +120:15
SpamapSstevebaker: I need to write my deployments based rebuild/delete notifier thing and then I want to work on that. Are you looking at it already?20:16
stevebakerSpamapS: I was going to look at making Server metadata dumb again, but I wasn't going to look at de-callbacking the authorise20:17
lifelessstevebaker: if you want profiling of any of this, let me know20:18
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SpamapSlifeless: I had a decent working nova fake virt driver setup before I tried to rebuild it and "everything broke" ... but it does work, and running 40 os-collect-config's at once from one box works and reproduces the bug too.20:20
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lifelessSpamapS: excellent!20:22
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stevebakerlifeless: thanks, I'll also continue to reducing sql queries on that path20:25
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shardystevebaker: hey, I'm writing a volume attachment tempest test, and I'd like to use SoftwareDeployment to return the output of a tiny shell script to be referenced in the stack outputs20:37
shardystevebaker: what's the most hello-worldish of the examples for shell-script deployment scripts?20:38
stevebakershardy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70297/ but we need a custom image available in the gate for these tests to use20:39
shardystevebaker: Hmm, I was hoping there was a way to install a really simple hook script via the template20:40
shardystevebaker: ideally I'd like to use the cirros image, but SoftwareDeployment to return the data via curl20:41
stevebakershardy: I tried installing os-collect-config etc from rpm during boot but hit packaging issues20:41
shardyI suppose I can just use a WaitCondition but wanted to avoid the AWS resources if possible20:41
shardy(and try out the new sc stuff :)20:41
stevebakershardy: you could always curl the userdata, parse the mime, parse the metadata json and do something with that, then curl the signal20:42
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shardystevebaker: Ok, sounds like the way to go, I may revive the WaitSignal idea so we can do trivial signalling like this via the native API20:42
stevebakershardy: I'll try to write a test which does that at some point. Its not a true integration test but it is still urgently needed20:43
stevebakerwithout python though, cirros might not be up to it20:43
shardystevebaker: FYI what I'm trying to do is attach a volume created from a backup, then check the contents of a file on the volume is as expected20:44
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shardystevebaker: curl and bash should be fine for that20:44
shardystevebaker: it's the hook script which introduces the dependency on python is it?20:45
shardystevebaker: I wasn't sure if it had to be python or just something which could read metadata20:45
stevebakershardy: ok, cool. I'd recommend trying deployment resource, let me know if you need help20:45
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stevebakershardy: python is just useful for parsing mime and json, that is all20:46
shardystevebaker: Ok, I'm trying to go minimal and experiment with cirros due to the timeouts, will let you know how it goes :)20:46
stevebakercool20:47
zanebshardy: sounds like you need this blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/snippet :D20:47
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shardyzaneb: assuming it does mean run on the instance then yes :)20:49
zanebI don't think it means that20:49
shardyit's not a very clear description20:49
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shardytbh the AWS WaitCondition does all I need, I'm just trying to work out the most minimal native alternative20:50
shardyIf there isn't one, I will revive my partially completed OS::Heat::WaitSignal patch ;)20:51
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shardysounds like SoftwareDeployments may work though20:51
stevebakereither way, you're writing a script to parse mime and json, the data is just layed out a bit differently20:54
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shardystevebaker: well I was hoping to avoid most of that complexity by just using a script (which cloud-init runs) calling curl21:01
shardyit may even be possible to use a CloudConfig resource with the phone-home feature of cloud-init21:01
stevebakershardy: no cloud-init on cirros21:01
stevebakershardy: cirros just executes the user_data21:02
shardystevebaker: AIUI there's some shell script alternative which handles the same format data?21:02
shardyOk, so no mime, just a script?21:02
stevebakershardy: if all you want to do is execute a script on boot, use user_data_format=RAW, and user_data can either be your script, or {get_resource: config_resource_name}21:03
stevebakershardy: no deployment resources are require for boot-only config21:03
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shardystevebaker: basically all I need is a curl call to a native signal, whose data is accessible via a resource attribute21:03
shardystevebaker: the problem is I want an output, not just a write-only script21:04
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stevebakeryeah, that needs a deployment resource, BUT21:05
stevebaker...no, nevermind21:06
shardyhaha21:06
shardyI've got enough for some further experiments tomorrow, thanks for the info21:06
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openstackgerritJason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Copy the resource registry for user environments  https://review.openstack.org/8969521:14
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ni291187test21:16
randallburtjasond:  does that patch remove them from all calls to resource-type-list or does it just prevent you from seeing other tenant's template resources during their create/update calls?21:17
jasondrandallburt: it doesn't even show up in resource-type-list for the tenant doing the create anymore21:18
randallburtjasond:  excellent. Reviewing now.21:18
randallburtjasond:  though I'll just +1 since I had input on the fix.21:18
jasondrandallburt: bah, please hold off.  i forgot to run tox before uploading.  there are failures21:19
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randallburtjasond:  k21:19
jasond676 failures to be exact21:20
randallburtjasond:  yikes.21:22
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openstackgerritWilliam C. Arnold proposed a change to openstack/heat: Introduces stack lifecycle plugpoints  https://review.openstack.org/8936321:28
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JoeZhoutest21:51
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zanebstevebaker: how do you add someone to -core? :D22:24
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stevebakerzaneb: first you need to be added to heat-ptl https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/152,members22:26
stevebakerzaneb: then you should be able to do it through https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/114,members22:26
zanebhmm, it let me do that even though I am not on the first list22:27
zanebinteresting22:27
stevebakerI've added you to heat-ptl22:28
zanebthanks22:28
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stevebakerthere might be a repo somewhere which also has a list of heat-core, but I can't remember where it is or if it does anything other than document22:29
zanebok, I will go trawling :)22:29
zanebI know there is the review-stats repo22:29
zanebI will update that one22:29
stevebakerzaneb: being in heat-ptl lets you push release tags, and +2 Approve stable backports22:29
zanebah, ok22:30
zanebso it appears that anyone in -core can add more people to -core22:30
randallburtwell I know what my family's getting for Christmas this year. Core-reviewer status for everyone! ;)22:31
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sdakezaneb only ptl should be able to add folks to core iirc22:40
sdake(in the gerrit interface)22:40
zanebmaybe someone had already done that for me then22:40
sdakeyes your in the ptl group - i think stevebaker added you22:40
zanebrandallburt: is the 'add' button greyed out for you on https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/114,members22:40
randallburtzaneb:  nope22:41
zanebsdake: yep, but I added tspatzier before stevebaker added me22:41
sdakewell I guess it doesn't matter22:41
sdakeunless someone gets their account hacked, then we might all get kicked out of core :)22:41
zanebI'm not worried, but I am a little surprised ;)22:41
sdakemost projects kick the outgoing ptl out of the heat-ptl group but we have left em in22:43
sdakeI don't think it matters either22:43
sdakerather *-ptl group22:43
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sdakeheat-ptl doesn't offer so much superpowers that its dangerous to have multiple people in22:43
sdakethey inititally added it so the core group would stop pushing failed tags to the repos22:44
sdakethey being openstack-infra22:44
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stevebakerI need to stay in heat-ptl so I can do python-heatclient releases ;)22:46
zanebstevebaker: you're welcome to 'em ;)22:46
stevebakerSpamapS: speaking of which, there are unreleased fixes in o*c which are needed for software config. Are you planning on releasing soon?22:47
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SpamapSstevebaker: oh yeah we'll release now.. we release whenever. :)23:42
stevebakerSpamapS: thanks!23:47
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