Tuesday, 2014-05-20

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openstackgerritZhiQiang Fan proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Enable filter alarms by their type  https://review.openstack.org/9365800:27
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openstackgerritKoert van der Veer proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Implemented metering for Cinder's snapshots  https://review.openstack.org/9236504:47
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/8850606:04
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eglynncdent: good morrow sir!08:36
eglynncdent: FYI I've created a blueprint for the grenade testing task ...08:37
* cdent looks08:37
eglynncdent: ... on a related point, note we're in the process of bootstraping a new BP review process for ceilo08:40
eglynncdent: ... once this puppy lands https://review.openstack.org/94044 we should be good to go with that08:40
eglynncdent: ... so this grenade BP will need a corresponding reviewed spec also before being approved08:41
eglynncdent: ... but for now, it'll suffice as a placeholder08:41
* cdent nods08:41
eglynncool :)08:41
eglynncdent: ... shall we target it provisionally to the juno-1 milestone once the new ceilometer-specs repo is up & running, d'ya think?08:42
cdentMakes sense08:42
cdentare there some notes or emails or what have you somewhere on the decision process for the new process?08:43
eglynncdent: thank you sir!08:43
eglynncdent: one sec, 'til I dig something up08:43
eglynncdent: well for a start, there's the commit msg for https://review.openstack.org/94044 which briefly describes the workflow IIRC08:44
cdentWhat I'm after is "here's the backstory on why we decided to have this new process"08:45
cdentjust to satisfy my curiosity08:45
eglynncdent: so this is a process that's being adopted as a "best practice" within several openstack projects08:46
eglynncdent: nova were the trailblazers in this regard08:47
cdentthe idea is basically "this review thing is working pretty well on code, let's try it on some other processes"?08:47
eglynncdent: ... but similar processes have since been adopted by cinder, nuetron, tripleo and others08:47
eglynncdent: well the idea is to avoid the classic one-liner BP, that comes from an eagerness to start cutting code ... now, Now, NOW!!08:48
eglynncdent: the process is intended to stimulate the thought process so that certain things are explicitly considered *a priori*08:49
eglynnwere alternative approaches considered?08:50
eglynnhow is this thing goning to the tested from an integration PoV?08:50
eglynnwill there be impact on the CLI?08:50
eglynnis that a doc impact?08:50
eglynnwhat will be the maintainership going forward?08:51
* cdent nods08:51
eglynnis there a datastore migration issue?08:51
cdentIn a related topic: Am I just not finding them, or are there not very many ceilometer tests in tempest itself?08:51
eglynncdent: cast your eye over https://github.com/eglynn/ceilometer-specs/blob/master/specs/template.rst to get a sense what's intended to be covered in the BP spec08:51
cdentmy baleful eye08:52
eglynncdent: tempest coverage is still very limited because of the sql-a performance issue which prevented meanging ful coverage from landing08:52
eglynncdent: there are a bunch of unlanded patches on this branch ...08:53
cdentOkay, it wasn't clear from our conversation yesterday whether it existed and was disabled or just didn't exist08:53
eglynncdent: once we make progress on the sql-a driver ...08:54
eglynncdent: and/or enable a mongo-based variant of the tempest run for ceilo ...08:54
eglynncdent: ... more of these should become land-able08:54
openstackgerritZhiQiang Fan proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Update doc for sample config file issue  https://review.openstack.org/9432408:56
openstackgerritKoert van der Veer proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Use joins instead of subqueries for metadata filtering.  https://review.openstack.org/9432508:57
cdent^ that should make quite a difference08:59
openstackgerritKoert van der Veer proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Use joins instead of subqueries for metadata filtering  https://review.openstack.org/9432509:04
ondergetekendecdent, it does.09:10
ondergetekendeThe factor 10000 isn't an exageration.09:10
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eglynnondergetekende++ :)09:11
eglynnmeh! no karma-bot enabled on this channel09:11
* eglynn reverts to the old-fashioned way ...09:11
eglynnondergetekende: kudos!09:12
ondergetekendeShould I be recruiting reviewers btw, or should I just give the devs time to find my submission on their own?09:12
ondergetekendeI've got a similar review open from last week (only a factor 10, though)09:12
ondergetekendeeglynn, tnx09:12
eglynnondergetekende: I will look at it today, also please nominate gordc as a reviewer09:12
ondergetekendewill do09:12
eglynnondergetekende: cool ... also nominating Alexei Kornienko would be good idea09:13
ondergetekendeIve added both.09:15
ondergetekendeThanks again09:15
eglynnondergetekende: well, thank *you* sir!09:17
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eglynncdent: are you happy enough to be nominated as the "driver" for grenade on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ceilometer-integration-gap-analysis-coverage-plan ?09:28
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eglynns/driver/victim/ ? ;)09:28
eglynncdent: thank you sir! :)09:29
eglynn... nsaje is off the hook for that so ;)09:30
cdenteglynn: is there an overview document for alarms somewhere or is the best explanation of how it works the code?09:37
eglynncdent: TBH, code09:38
eglynncdent: wanna a quick overview?09:38
cdentnot right this minute, am just gathering resources09:38
eglynncdent: cool enough, maybe we should schedule something for later on today, or later in the week?09:39
cdentwe can mix it in with the other call already tentatively planned? If we do it later it'll give me a chance to assemble my army of questions.09:40
eglynncdent: ... roger that!09:40
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openstackgerritKoert van der Veer proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Use joins instead of subqueries for metadata filtering  https://review.openstack.org/9432510:34
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openstackgerritKoert van der Veer proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Use joins instead of subqueries for metadata filtering  https://review.openstack.org/9432511:03
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ildikoveglynn: hi11:38
eglynnildikov: yo11:38
ildikoveglynn: first of all I'm not working, it's just an illusion ;)11:39
eglynnildikov: LOL :) ... so just social chit-chat? ;)11:39
ildikoveglynn: the second is that do I remember right that we decided to remove the intsallation part of the developer doc?11:39
eglynnildikov: that sounds like work to /me!11:40
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ildikoveglynn: of course, I cannot go to my morning swim without talking to someone before it ;)11:40
eglynnildikov: so my recollection is we simplify that installation part of the dev docs, to remove the "manual install" bit at least11:40
eglynnildikov: ... but I *think* the thought was to keep the devstack instructions11:41
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eglynnildikov: ... devstack being the first port of call for new devs11:41
ildikoveglynn: I ask because there is a patch, which explains how to generate the sample.conf file in the manual install part11:41
eglynnildikov: ... that's the prob with Friday sessions at summit, everyone's brain is full by then11:42
ildikoveglynn:you mean to keep the 'Installing and Running the Development Version' section?11:42
eglynnildikov: ... well I think we'll need a point to sample.conf generation somewhere11:42
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eglynnildikov: ... yep, the devstack-oriented bit11:43
ildikoveglynn: sure, but I think it's not the manual install in the developer doc11:43
eglynnildikov: ... a-ha, k11:43
ildikoveglynn: the patch contains the how generate in the 'Configuration' section also11:43
eglynnildikov: ... so yeah, manual install bit is for the chopping block IIRC11:43
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eglynnildikov: ... so maybe keep sufficient info in the config section, delete otherwise11:44
ildikoveglynn: I remember that we kind of agreed in this, I just wanted to be sure that you still agree with this part, Dear Leader ;)11:44
eglynnildikov: ... cool, thanks!11:44
eglynnildikov: ... /me has to drop off, meeting with release mgr at 11:45UTC11:44
eglynni.e. now11:44
ildikoveglynn: I assume we keep the config section, so it will be a good place for this information11:45
eglynnildikov: +111:45
ildikoveglynn: ok, thanks for the chit-chat then, and have a nice meeting :)11:45
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openstackgerritLadislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Automatic discovery of TripleO Overcloud hardware  https://review.openstack.org/9237012:32
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Remove unused db code due to api v1 drop  https://review.openstack.org/9382913:03
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openstackgerritKoert van der Veer proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Use joins instead of subqueries for metadata filtering  https://review.openstack.org/9432513:44
eglynn-lunchjd__, sileht, _nadya_, nijaba, ildikov: hi cores!13:45
nijabaeglynn-lunch: o/13:45
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eglynnjd__, sileht, _nadya_, nijaba, ildikov: ... FYI the TC has our mission statement thingy on it's agenda for their meeting this evening13:46
eglynn... would be great to have a little more green on https://review.openstack.org/8752613:46
* eglynn just wants to get it landed at this stage and avoid being sucked into a never-ending circular debate13:47
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nijabaeglynn: can't seem to +1 on this.  Only comment :(13:49
eglynnnijaba: hmmm, I wonder has the recent gerrit upgrade broke the ability to do a non-binding +1 on governance13:51
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* eglynn scurries over to #infra to ask ...13:52
cmartHello eglynn... quick question. I'm not receiving alarms notifications..13:52
eglynncmart: hi13:52
cmartCould this code (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93022/) the solution=?13:52
eglynncmart: what version are you using?13:52
cmartI got the same issue with oslo.messaging.. :S13:53
eglynncmart: yep the oslo-messaging switchover initially broke that in a subtle way13:53
cmartany workarounds for this?13:53
eglynncmart: the initial fix was reverted as it had an intended side effect on the notification-agent13:53
cmartYes, I read your comments about it13:53
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eglynncmart: well you could manually rebase that patch and apply in your env13:54
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eglynncmart: or just wait for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93022/ to land after sileht rebases it13:54
eglynns/intended side effect/*un*intended side effect/13:55
cmartOh! I see.. It just failed!13:55
cmartOK.. I'll try with the patch.13:55
cmartthanks a lot13:55
eglynncmart: yeah just needs a rebase13:55
eglynncmart: cool :)13:55
cdenteglynn: do you want this mission statement to be (more) grammatically correct?13:55
* eglynn holds up his hand ... English grammar is not his strong suit13:56
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eglynncdent: did you find a howler? ^^^13:56
eglynncdent: ... or more of a subtle error?13:57
cdentno, not at all, but the use of "in addition" as the starter for the third item in the list is a stubmling block for reading13:57
eglynncdent: ... where I could claim English is not in fact my first language, and maybe get away with it13:57
cdentthe least flower fix is: s/in addition to/and/13:57
eglynncdent: yeah that's a fair point, pls add your $0.02 on gerrit13:58
cdentwill do13:58
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* eglynn thinks about it ...13:58
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eglynncdent: ... so I would fix right away as you suggest13:59
eglynncdent: ... buuuut13:59
eglynncdent: ... I'm leary of losing the one of the mere three +1's the patch already has from sitting TC members13:59
eglynncdent: (... as markmc is off-grid this week sailing in the caribbean or something equally exotic)14:00
* cdent nods14:00
yatinthe rabbitmq queue name: ceilometer.collector.metering having 230 items, who is the consumer of this queue?14:00
* cdent quakes14:00
eglynncdent: ... but that said, pls do go ahead and add your minus one14:00
eglynnyatin: the collector14:00
yatineglynn: the collector itself...wow14:01
cdentgerrit's UI is... bewildering? ugly? crazy?14:01
eglynncdent: ... all of the above :)14:01
cdentI _think_ I've managed it, or did I leave something out?14:01
eglynncdent: ... well, I see a "-0" comment14:02
eglynncdent: ... did you intend a -1?14:02
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cdentI hadn't really intended much more than the comment. Does -0 count as "okay as is, but you might wanna do X"?14:03
cdentif so I'm happy with that14:03
eglynncdent: ... yep, exactly what it means in my understanding14:03
eglynncdent: ... cool, thanks for the eyes!14:03
eglynncdent: BTW on the general subject of gerrit fugliness14:03
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eglynncdent: ... click on your name in the top-right corner, then Settings ... Preferences ... Change View14:04
jd__why the hell can't i score on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87526/ ?14:04
eglynnjd__: nijaba just saw the same prob, so infra is not ganging up on you ;)14:05
eglynnjd__: ... broked by the recent gerrit upgrade, maybes?14:05
jd__heads will roll14:05
eglynn... and so they should!14:05
cdentthank eglynn that's an improvement14:05
eglynn... don't bother sharpening the axe! ;)14:05
eglynncdent: ... yeah /me is undecided about the new screen14:06
cdenthaving the comments inlined  and having more links seems good14:06
eglynncdent: yeah that is better, defo14:06
cdentJoe Gordon's comments resonate14:07
eglynncdent: ... but the cherry-pick button?14:07
cdentlooks like it just got slapped in there14:07
eglynncdent: (... only works for trivial cherry-picks, which are, well, *trivial* to do in the old-skool way)14:08
eglynncdent: ... did you mean jogo's comment on the mission statment?14:08
cdent"So this all boils down to I am concerned at seeing ceilometer suffer from scope creep before it is successfully accomplished its original goal."14:08
eglynncdent: ... so yeah, I spoke to him a bit about the percieved misson creep in ATL also14:09
eglynncdent: ... IMHO reality is (a) the TC OK'd an expanded mandate for ceilo back when we graduated14:10
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eglynncdent: ... but also (b) jogo is correct in the sense that we havn't *reliably* met the original goal set when the project was founded14:11
eglynncdent: ... IMHO this cycle is all about paying down that architectural debt and consolidating a solid core14:12
eglynncdent: ... *before* further addressing the more "expansive" scope, if that's the way the community want to go14:13
* cdent nods14:13
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eglynnyatin: sorry, I missed your point about the collector *itself*14:14
eglynnyatin: ... that's pretty much the collector's only job now, i.e. consuming metering messages from ceilometer agents (compute, central...)14:15
eglynnyatin: ... the job of consuming notifications from the other openstack services (nova, glance, ...) has passed on to the new notification agent14:16
eglynnyatin: ... where "new" == "added in Icehouse"14:16
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cmarteglynn, are you around?14:28
eglynncmart: yes14:29
cmartsorry to bother you... I'm just starting at ceilometer and I want to take this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/122429814:29
cmartIt's kind of old.. and I talked to the guys that reported it14:29
cmartDo you know if filter by any attribute is implemented in any of the ceilometer models?14:30
cmartfrom my point of view, replicating that behavior should be enought to fix the bug (related to alarm filtering)14:31
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eglynncmart: can I get back to you in ~30 mins?14:33
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eglynncmart: (... I'm on a call right now)14:33
* eglynn does excel at multitasking ... ;)14:34
cmartOK.. I'll contact you in one hour, that's OK?14:34
cmartOK. Bye14:35
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: mongo: remove _id in inserted alarm changes  https://review.openstack.org/9308715:35
eglynnsileht: could you bang out a rebase on https://review.openstack.org/93022 ?15:52
silehteglynn, sure15:56
eglynnsileht: thank you sir!15:56
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: oslo.messaging context must be a dict  https://review.openstack.org/9302215:58
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silehteglynn, done16:00
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eglynnsileht: excellent, re-appoved16:01
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cmartsileht: You don´t know who I am, but thanks for the patch!!16:04
cmarteglynn, are you available now?16:04
eglynncmart: 2 mins16:04
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eglynncmart: k, so you're question was on alarm query filtering16:09
eglynncmart: you've seen for example https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/storage/pymongo_base.py#L24616:09
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eglynncmart: so want to filter on alarm state also?16:10
eglynncmart: sounds reasonable enough16:10
eglynncmart: ... modulo case mismatch, space versus underscore in 'insufficient_data' versus 'Insufficient Data' etc.16:10
eglynncmart: ... so just be sure to canonicalize that in some way16:11
cmartaccording to the bug description, it should be for all attribute.. guess we can discuss it16:11
eglynncmart: ... seems sane enough for state at least16:11
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cmartbut my question was related to this functionallity  (filter by any attribute of a model),16:11
eglynncmart: ... not so sure sure tho' for more conplex attributes16:11
eglynncmart: ... eg. time constraints on the alarm16:12
cmartIs that kind of stuff developed in some other place?16:12
eglynncmart: I don't understand your question16:12
cmarteglynn, one sec16:12
cmartthe functionallity needed is clear I guess.. To have the possibility of filtering alarms by any of its attributes.. (I guess that after the brief analysis you made, that would change, but let's assume that it isn't)16:13
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cmartmy question is if that "filter by any attribute" functionallity is already implemented in other models, like instances, meters, etc..16:14
cmartbecause it will be ideal to replicate that same behavior on the alarm model16:15
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cmartaccording to lsmola,  "filtering is done differently by every project :-) and the Oslo project is trying to unify that"16:15
cmartbut first, I want to make sure that this functionallity is not already there.. and that's why I'm asking you about it :)16:17
lsmolasomethin like Oslo, right?16:17
eglynncmart, lsmola: the filtering supported by ceilometer queries is somewhat different I'd imagine16:18
eglynncmart, lsmola: ... because we're the 1st project to adopt WSME/pecan and that coloured the shape of the v2 API a bit16:19
eglynncmart, lsmola: ... also there's the complex filtering added in Icehouse16:19
cmart" the complex filtering added in Icehouse".. In which module? Oslo?16:20
cmart(sorry. Openstack Newbie:))16:20
eglynncmart: in ceilometer ... i.e. constrain query by A and B or not C ... as opposed to A and B and C16:21
cmartOK. Got it16:21
eglynncmart: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/complex-filter-expressions-in-api-queries16:21
eglynncmart: s/To have the possibility of filtering alarms by *any* of its attributes/To have the possibility of filtering alarms by any *simple* attributes/16:22
cmartOk.. So that's what you meant with complex and simple attributes.. Got it16:23
cmartso, if we say "OK, alarm filtering will be possible for these simple attributes" we are in a good shape right? I mean, it will be easier..16:25
cmartand those simple attributes (lsmola, correct me if I'm wrong) could be "name, meter, state, id, project_id, actions", right?16:26
eglynncmart: [name, meter, state, id, project_id] ==> agree16:28
eglynncmart: actions ==> disagree, as this is a list of actions, usually including such things as pre-signed (hence unique and long-winded) URLs16:29
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cmarteglynn: cool! Is there any documentation or "how to" related to the filter functionallity (or an implementation example within ceilometer code) that I could use?16:30
lsmolayeah, sounds right16:30
eglynncmart: "how to" what exactly?16:30
eglynncmart: ... how to use the complex query API?16:30
cmartyes (I'm reading the bp and the etherpad right now, but I got anxious :D)16:31
eglynncmart: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/webapi/v2.html#functional-example-for-complex-query16:31
eglynncmart: are your needs met by ^^^ ?16:32
cmartyou are some kind of god or smth?16:32
cmart*are you16:33
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cmartthank you, thank you, thaaaaank you eglynn..16:33
hicham_hi everyone,16:33
cmartI'll look into that and let you guys know.16:33
eglynncmart: not sure what you mean by the question, but the god(dess) of docco round these parts is ildikov :)16:34
eglynncmart: thank you sir!16:34
hicham_i m wondering if anyone can help me16:34
cmarteglynn can :D:D16:34
hicham_how can i collect data using ceilometer16:34
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eglynncmart: c ya16:34
eglynnhicham_: that's a *very* general question16:34
eglynnhicham_: can you more specific?16:35
eglynn* be more16:35
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hicham_i have 3 physical machines 2 work as compute and the third as controller16:35
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eglynnhicham_: how have you deployed openstack?16:36
eglynnhicham_: manual, puppet, packstack, foreman, fuel, ...?16:36
hicham_so i am runing VM on compute node16:36
hicham_manuel using guide16:36
eglynnhicham_: you need to deploy the following ...16:36
hicham_fron openstack.org16:36
eglynnceilometer compute agent on *all* compute nodes16:37
hicham_yes i did16:37
eglynnceilometer central agent on *one* control node16:37
eglynnceilometer notification agent on at least one node16:37
eglynnceilometer ceollector on at least one node16:37
eglynnceilometer api service on at least one node16:37
hicham_what do you mean by least one node16:38
eglynnbackend DB (mongodb is best to start with)16:38
eglynnhicham_: one or more instances of the service, i.e. horizontally scaled out16:38
eglynnthen if you also want to use alarms ...16:39
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eglynnneed to run the alarm evaluator and notifier services16:39
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hicham_i get this resulat ` E: Unable to locate package ceilometer-notification-agent `16:40
eglynnhicham_: what packages are you using?16:41
eglynnhicham_: RDO on Fedora or Centos?16:41
hicham_nn on ubuntu 12.0416:41
eglynnhicham_: or something else on Ubuntu?16:41
eglynnhicham_: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ceilometer16:41
eglynnhicham_: ceilometer-agent-notification16:42
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eglynnhicham_: not ceilometer-notification-agent16:42
hicham_even so16:43
hicham_same error16:43
hicham_hicham# apt-get install ceilometer-agent-notification error : E: Unable to locate package ceilometer-agent-notification16:44
eglynnhicham_: smells like a problem with your apt setup16:44
eglynnhicham_: as the package appears to be present here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/ceilometer_2014.1-0ubuntu1.1.dsc16:45
eglynnhicham_: note this team is not responsible for Ubuntu packaging16:45
eglynnhicham_: ... i.e. this is the *upstream* ceilometer channel16:46
eglynnhicham_: ... for downstream packaging issues, best to talk to the folks that actually build the packages for each individual distro16:46
eglynnhicham_: ... for RDO you'll find those folks on the #rdo channel16:46
hicham_thank so much for your time16:47
eglynnhicham_: ... for Ubuntu packaging I don't know if there's an equivalent channel, but you could just reach out to zul directly16:47
eglynnhicham_: ... zul == Chuck Short16:47
eglynnhicham_: ... or better still, report a distro bug in the usual way16:48
hicham_how can i reach chuck short16:48
eglynnhicham_: on IRC ... but on second thoughts I think it probably best to go thru the proper bug-reporting channel16:49
hicham_eglynn  : can you give the  follow steps after add those packages16:57
eglynnhicham_: do you mean, the steps required *after* the packages are installed?16:58
hicham_yes excatly16:59
eglynnhicham_: set the database connection URL in the ceilometer.conf16:59
eglynnhicham_: if the DB is mysql/postgres you need to create the database16:59
zulyeah depending on the issue best to go through http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ceilometer16:59
hicham_non i used mongo db16:59
openstackgerritgordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8871416:59
eglynnhicham_: here is more info on what you'll need to do for each DB http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/install/manual.html17:00
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: oslo.messaging context must be a dict  https://review.openstack.org/9302220:09
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openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: debug level logs should not be translated  https://review.openstack.org/9302121:04
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Remove unused db code due to api v1 drop  https://review.openstack.org/9382921:51
openstackgerritgordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: refactor sql backend to improve write speed  https://review.openstack.org/9448321:51
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