| kozhukalov_ | #startmeeting | 15:00 |
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| opendevmeet | kozhukalov_: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 15:00 |
| kozhukalov_ | #startmeeting Monthly Openstack-Helm meeting | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Tue Mar 7 15:00:58 2023 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kozhukalov_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'monthly_openstack_helm_meeting' | 15:00 |
| kozhukalov_ | Hi, is anyone around? | 15:01 |
| steveftaylor | Yes | 15:01 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 15:02 |
| kozhukalov_ | That is nice. More than one person should be enough to call this event a meeting ) | 15:02 |
| kozhukalov_ | #topic Get rid of old plain provisioners (cephfs and rbd) | 15:03 |
| steveftaylor | +1 | 15:03 |
| kozhukalov_ | The first topic for today is to get rid of this particualar thing as old plain provisioners. The details are discussed in the ML thread | 15:04 |
| kozhukalov_ | #link https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2023-March/032550.html | 15:04 |
| steveftaylor | Those provisioners are outdated and incompatible with Ubuntu and Ceph udpates. They haven't been maintained in a long time, and rather than updating them, we should probably move to CSI and get rid of those. | 15:04 |
| kozhukalov_ | Totally agree | 15:05 |
| gagehugo | +1 | 15:05 |
| gagehugo | sounds good to me | 15:05 |
| kozhukalov_ | Even more | 15:05 |
| kozhukalov_ | for ceph csi provisioners we can also use upstream charts | 15:05 |
| kozhukalov_ | less code to support | 15:05 |
| steveftaylor | I like it | 15:06 |
| kozhukalov_ | Frankly, I even think that since ceph is not a part of openstack we could potentially use rook instead | 15:06 |
| steveftaylor | We could. That's a much bigger change, but it's a good plan long term. | 15:07 |
| gagehugo | we've brought up using other upstream charts before in the past and it seemed to be fine, just needed someone to port everything over was the main roadblock | 15:07 |
| kozhukalov_ | yes, this is long term | 15:07 |
| kozhukalov_ | at least we agree about getting rid old provisioners (I am currently working on the PS for this) | 15:08 |
| steveftaylor | I have some really old notes somewhere documenting some issues with rook that could be problematic for us, but those are really old. It is probably that those issues have been addressed. | 15:09 |
| kozhukalov_ | #agreed get rid of old plain provisioner in favor of using CSI | 15:09 |
| steveftaylor | *probable | 15:09 |
| steveftaylor | Maybe focus on the provisioners for now and add rook to the agenda for the next meeting? | 15:10 |
| kozhukalov_ | #steveftaylor can you please try to find your notes and share somehow? | 15:10 |
| steveftaylor | Yes, I can try to dig them up. | 15:10 |
| kozhukalov_ | yes, good idea to postpone the rook discussion for later | 15:10 |
| kozhukalov_ | Ok, thanks | 15:11 |
| kozhukalov_ | #action steveftaylor will try to find notes about potential issues of using rook | 15:12 |
| kozhukalov_ | Let's then switch to the next topic | 15:12 |
| kozhukalov_ | #topic New PTL - Vladimir Kozhukalov | 15:12 |
| kozhukalov_ | I believe, this topic was from gagehugo | 15:13 |
| kozhukalov_ | First of all | 15:13 |
| gagehugo | Just wanted to say thanks kozhukalov_ for stepping up in the role and to announce it here | 15:13 |
| steveftaylor | kozhukalov_: Congrats! Glad to have you here. | 15:14 |
| kozhukalov_ | Let me say thank you to gagehugo for all his efforts during previous years | 15:14 |
| kozhukalov_ | Thanks | 15:14 |
| gagehugo | thank you! | 15:14 |
| steveftaylor | gagehugo: Thanks for all of your efforts and well done. It's been a pleasure. | 15:15 |
| kozhukalov_ | and our focus for the next release is 1) improve documentation 2) support Yoga and probably Zed 3) support Focal, recent Fedora and probably centos stream | 15:15 |
| gagehugo | Those sound like good goals | 15:16 |
| kozhukalov_ | I am not sure I'll be in Vancouver this summer, but at least I am currnetly working to prepare good discussions during virtual PTG in the end of March | 15:17 |
| gagehugo | kozhukalov_: there currently isn't a session for OSH at the virtual PTG due to lack of interest, so if you're wanting to host one still you may need to reach out to the organizers | 15:18 |
| kozhukalov_ | yes, I've already done this | 15:18 |
| gagehugo | ok cool | 15:19 |
| kozhukalov_ | diablo_rojo created a track for us in #openinfra-events | 15:19 |
| kozhukalov_ | so we can allocate discussion slots | 15:20 |
| kozhukalov_ | at lease we'll try to attract more people | 15:20 |
| kozhukalov_ | Ok, then let's switch to another topic | 15:21 |
| kozhukalov_ | yes, and before we switch, just in case here is the link for the official election results | 15:21 |
| kozhukalov_ | #link https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2023-February/032442.html | 15:22 |
| kozhukalov_ | #topic Do we need IRC meetings? | 15:22 |
| steveftaylor | This is the most active one I have ever attended. :-) | 15:23 |
| kozhukalov_ | The idea here is that in most cases we can discuss things in ML threads and it looks like there is no much sense to have monthly IRC meetings | 15:23 |
| kozhukalov_ | :-) | 15:23 |
| gagehugo | Lately the IRC meetings have been pretty quiet | 15:24 |
| kozhukalov_ | when you have smth to discuss you usually don't want to wait a month, right? | 15:24 |
| gagehugo | It depends, usually no | 15:24 |
| steveftaylor | The meetings used to be weekly. It has only been recently that they have been monthly because they have been so quiet. | 15:24 |
| gagehugo | but in the past the meeting was when you could usually assume more folks would be available | 15:25 |
| kozhukalov_ | yes, in projects like neutron and nova it makes sense to have weekly meetings | 15:25 |
| gagehugo | and usually it was for longer term goals (like ceph here) | 15:25 |
| steveftaylor | I don't see much of a need for these meetings if we want to move these discussions to the ML. | 15:26 |
| kozhukalov_ | Aha, I see, for long term discussions yes | 15:26 |
| gagehugo | if anyone wants to discuss something now, there's always this channel or slack too | 15:27 |
| kozhukalov_ | personally, I would prefer ML discussions even for long term things | 15:27 |
| kozhukalov_ | anyway, it does not require much effort to conduct these meetings monthly | 15:28 |
| steveftaylor | I agree. It may take longer to hold a discussion that way, but it also doesn't require anyone be available at a specific time. | 15:28 |
| gagehugo | I am neutral, I've always done the irc meetings and I think they can be useful for newcomers, but I can see the argument for moving our discussions to the mailing list | 15:28 |
| gagehugo | we would need to update the references in the repo and wiki to point folks to reaching out there is my main concern, but that is pretty simple | 15:29 |
| gagehugo | and it frees up this timeslot for folks who otherwise are likely busy | 15:29 |
| kozhukalov_ | Ok, our opinions (but there are only three people here) are from neutral to not having meetings, but there is no strong agreement | 15:31 |
| kozhukalov_ | so, I'll update links and add comments that ML and slack are preferable ways to communicate | 15:31 |
| steveftaylor | sounds good | 15:31 |
| kozhukalov_ | but at the same time, we'll continue to have meetings | 15:32 |
| kozhukalov_ | will see if they are active enough | 15:32 |
| steveftaylor | Good plan | 15:32 |
| gagehugo | works for me | 15:32 |
| kozhukalov_ | next time if there are only three people I will cancel monthly meetings | 15:33 |
| steveftaylor | seems fair | 15:33 |
| gagehugo | sure | 15:33 |
| kozhukalov_ | anyway three people is not enough to have consensus for long term things | 15:33 |
| kozhukalov_ | #topic Open discussion | 15:34 |
| gagehugo | I don't have anything else | 15:34 |
| steveftaylor | Me neither | 15:35 |
| kozhukalov_ | Same for me at this point | 15:35 |
| kozhukalov_ | Thanks a lot for attending. | 15:35 |
| kozhukalov_ | Now I am closing the meeting. | 15:36 |
| gagehugo | kozhukalov_: thanks! | 15:36 |
| kozhukalov_ | #endmeeting | 15:36 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Tue Mar 7 15:36:20 2023 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:36 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/monthly_openstack_helm_meeting/2023/monthly_openstack_helm_meeting.2023-03-07-15.00.html | 15:36 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/monthly_openstack_helm_meeting/2023/monthly_openstack_helm_meeting.2023-03-07-15.00.txt | 15:36 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/monthly_openstack_helm_meeting/2023/monthly_openstack_helm_meeting.2023-03-07-15.00.log.html | 15:36 |
| opendevreview | Stephen Taylor proposed openstack/openstack-helm-infra master: [ceph-provisioners] Remove legacy Ceph provisioners https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-helm-infra/+/876782 | 21:24 |
| opendevreview | Stephen Taylor proposed openstack/openstack-helm-infra master: [ceph-provisioners] Remove legacy Ceph provisioners https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-helm-infra/+/876782 | 21:28 |
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