| opendevreview | jinyuanliu proposed openstack/kolla master: venus: add log management system https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/793795 | 03:01 |
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| jinyuanliu | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/793897 | 05:45 |
| jinyuanliu | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/793795 | 05:45 |
| jinyuanliu | thx | 05:45 |
| jinyuanliu | hello | 06:12 |
| jinyuanliu | who can help me review | 06:12 |
| opendevreview | Maksim Malchuk proposed openstack/kolla master: Unify curl use (customisation options) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/805640 | 06:54 |
| opendevreview | Michal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add way to change weight of haproxy backend per service https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/775627 | 07:06 |
| *** rpittau|afk is now known as rpittau | 07:28 | |
| opendevreview | Gaël THEROND proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add missing cloudkitty documentation. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/805650 | 07:36 |
| mnasiadka | morning | 07:52 |
| Fl1nt | Good morning chat! | 07:52 |
| jingvar | I have an issue with kolla repo, git clone https://opendev.org/openstack/kolla-ansible , git ls-remote origin -h refs/heads/stable/victoria - it hungs , some times works | 07:58 |
| jingvar | git clone works | 07:58 |
| *** amoralej|off is now known as amoralej | 08:02 | |
| mnasiadka | jingvar: does not hang for me (10 successes out of 10 tries), so it's not an issue with repository. | 08:14 |
| jingvar | thanks, I've cheked it on my home pc, got the same. now it works | 08:30 |
| kevko | morning \o/ | 08:32 |
| opendevreview | Piotr Parczewski proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Use friendly target names in Prometheus https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/810017 | 09:06 |
| opendevreview | Piotr Parczewski proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Use friendly target names in Prometheus https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/810017 | 09:09 |
| kevko | some weird intermittent errros in ci :/ -> https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/17e5337918bd4db4b6155ca6f75e85a8 | 10:42 |
| kevko | different reviews different jobs, same error , after recheck sometimes working sometimes not ... upper constraints not changed upstream, so i don't know why .. is it known issue or is it something new ? | 10:45 |
| kevko | yoctozepto, mnasiadka ^^ ? | 10:45 |
| priteau | I am seeing the same thing in cloudkitty, so it's not just a kolla thing | 10:46 |
| kevko | hmm | 11:23 |
| yoctozepto | kevko: random | 11:27 |
| yoctozepto | pypi proxy/mirror issue | 11:27 |
| yoctozepto | pip bad at reporting | 11:27 |
| *** amoralej is now known as amoralej|lunch | 11:31 | |
| *** amoralej|lunch is now known as amoralej | 12:43 | |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kayobe stable/victoria: Fix typo in IP allocation filename https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/809135 | 13:09 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: made it | 13:52 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard mnasiadka hrw egonzalez yoctozepto rafaelweingartne cosmicsound osmanlicilegi bbezak parallax Fl1nt - meeting in 8 | 13:52 |
| hrw | not 1:08? | 13:52 |
| mnasiadka | ups | 14:00 |
| mnasiadka | seems I changed timezones :D | 14:00 |
| mnasiadka | yes, in an hour. | 14:00 |
| yoctozepto | nice | 14:03 |
| parallax | :D | 14:08 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: but you will be there for the meeting, right? :P | 14:23 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: yes, unfortunately ;) | 14:23 |
| yoctozepto | lol | 14:23 |
| yoctozepto | ack | 14:23 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard mnasiadka hrw egonzalez yoctozepto rafaelweingartne cosmicsound osmanlicilegi bbezak parallax Fl1nt - meeting in 10 (now really) ;) | 14:49 |
| mnasiadka | #startmeeting kolla | 15:01 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Wed Sep 22 15:01:11 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mnasiadka. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 15:01 |
| mnasiadka | #topic Roll-call | 15:01 |
| yoctozepto | o/. | 15:01 |
| headphoneJames | o/ | 15:02 |
| yoctozepto | .\o | 15:02 |
| mnasiadka | \o | 15:02 |
| mnasiadka | #topic Agenda | 15:04 |
| mnasiadka | * Announcements | 15:04 |
| mnasiadka | * Review action items from the last meeting | 15:04 |
| mnasiadka | * CI status | 15:04 |
| mnasiadka | * Discuss "Transition Keystone admin user to system scope" https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/692179/ | 15:04 |
| mnasiadka | * Should we switch CentOS to upstream MariaDB as well? And should we try to sync version for all in Xena? And which one? https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/810161 | 15:04 |
| mnasiadka | * Should we support Rocky in images? | 15:04 |
| mnasiadka | * Release tasks | 15:04 |
| mnasiadka | * Xena cycle planning | 15:04 |
| mnasiadka | * Yoga PTG planning | 15:04 |
| mnasiadka | * Open discussion | 15:04 |
| hrw | [°][o] | 15:05 |
| mnasiadka | #topic Announcements | 15:05 |
| mnasiadka | I have none, let's move on. | 15:06 |
| mnasiadka | #topic Review action items from the last meeting | 15:06 |
| mnasiadka | mnasiadka to update docs encouraging to build your own containers and run your own registry | 15:06 |
| mnasiadka | mnasiadka to create pull-retag-push blueprint based on kayobe RFE: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2007731 | 15:06 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto to fix multinode docs after defaulting to secure registry | 15:06 |
| mnasiadka | mnasiadka to send a mail to ML about Kolla PTG | 15:06 |
| mnasiadka | haven't done mine - yoctozepto ? | 15:06 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: fixed in the change | 15:07 |
| yoctozepto | need to merge it | 15:07 |
| mnasiadka | ok | 15:08 |
| mnasiadka | fair enough :) | 15:08 |
| mnasiadka | #topic CI status | 15:08 |
| mnasiadka | Green, but I see a note about Train failing? | 15:08 |
| yoctozepto | someone cares about train then | 15:10 |
| yoctozepto | (not me) | 15:10 |
| mnasiadka | Well, let's see if somebody has the will to fix it then. | 15:10 |
| mnasiadka | #topic Discuss "Transition Keystone admin user to system scope" https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/692179/ | 15:10 |
| mnasiadka | headphoneJames - so what's the current status? | 15:11 |
| headphoneJames | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/HZG1PxBZ/ | 15:12 |
| headphoneJames | I scaled the patch back to the proposed scope | 15:12 |
| mnasiadka | I saw that, seems CI hasn't broken - I think we're waiting for mgoddard to review next week. | 15:13 |
| headphoneJames | it got an initial review from mgoddard - it should now reflect all requested changes | 15:13 |
| headphoneJames | and I agree - now it needs mgoddard stamp of approval | 15:13 |
| headphoneJames | of course open to any other comments/feedback | 15:14 |
| mnasiadka | Ok, are there any other chunks we want to try to squeeze in for Xena? | 15:15 |
| headphoneJames | I assume not if the door is closing | 15:15 |
| mnasiadka | Ok, situation is clear. | 15:16 |
| mnasiadka | Next topic | 15:16 |
| mnasiadka | #topic Should we switch CentOS to upstream MariaDB as well? And should we try to sync version for all in Xena? And which one? https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/810161 | 15:16 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: from my perspective - if all other distros use upstream MariaDB - it would be a bit weird if we would keep CentOS using distro MariaDB rpms? | 15:16 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: same here | 15:17 |
| yoctozepto | now | 15:17 |
| yoctozepto | switch only on master | 15:17 |
| yoctozepto | or everywhere | 15:17 |
| yoctozepto | ? | 15:17 |
| mnasiadka | Do we have any bugs opened/issues around MariaDB in stable branches? | 15:18 |
| yoctozepto | yes, for debian | 15:18 |
| hrw | victoria and below | 15:18 |
| yoctozepto | yes | 15:18 |
| mnasiadka | ok, so we need to sync up Debian with Ubuntu, right? | 15:18 |
| yoctozepto | yes | 15:18 |
| yoctozepto | that's what I'm doing already | 15:18 |
| yoctozepto | want to continue that down to affected ussuri | 15:19 |
| yoctozepto | then do the other switches | 15:19 |
| yoctozepto | let's plan the other ones | 15:19 |
| mnasiadka | So we have no reason to switch CentOS anywhere else than master - so probably let's not do this - unless I'm mistaken. | 15:20 |
| yoctozepto | definitely works for me | 15:20 |
| yoctozepto | so #agreed ? | 15:20 |
| mnasiadka | #agreed to switch CentOS and Debian to MariaDB upstream repo, and only backport Debian change to stable branches to sync up with Ubuntu and close existing bug. | 15:21 |
| yoctozepto | great | 15:21 |
| mnasiadka | If I haven't mixed up anything, I guess this is what we agreed to :) | 15:21 |
| yoctozepto | there are two more questions there | 15:21 |
| yoctozepto | yeah | 15:21 |
| yoctozepto | the next q is | 15:21 |
| yoctozepto | "And should we try to sync version for all in Xena?" | 15:21 |
| yoctozepto | now we have debian 10.5 and others 10.3 | 15:21 |
| yoctozepto | we can't go down obviously | 15:22 |
| yoctozepto | the current stable is 10.6 | 15:22 |
| yoctozepto | either do not sync or sync to 10.5 or 10.6 | 15:22 |
| mnasiadka | seems OSA reverted their jump to 10.6 a month ago | 15:23 |
| mnasiadka | due to some upgrade problems | 15:23 |
| hrw | wallaby was 10.5 in Debian at least so what about sync all to 10.5 now and higher in Y? | 15:23 |
| mnasiadka | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-galera_server/+/805822 | 15:23 |
| mnasiadka | I think since it's close to feature freeze and other fantastic events in X release - we should just bump everything to 10.5 | 15:24 |
| yoctozepto | makes sense to me | 15:24 |
| mnasiadka | #agreed to sync MariaDB on all distros to 10.5 and pursue 10.6 in next cycle | 15:25 |
| mnasiadka | any more questions for that topic? | 15:25 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: re osa - they rely on deb to upgrade so... you know ;-) | 15:25 |
| yoctozepto | not from me | 15:25 |
| mnasiadka | galera_repo_host: "downloads.mariadb.com" in their role defaults/ | 15:26 |
| mnasiadka | ah, you meant something else | 15:26 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: I mean, they upgrade it with apt/dpkg | 15:26 |
| yoctozepto | yeah | 15:26 |
| mnasiadka | now I get it :) | 15:26 |
| yoctozepto | :D | 15:26 |
| mnasiadka | #topic Should we support Rocky in images? | 15:26 |
| yoctozepto | I'm not sure there are clear benefits | 15:26 |
| yoctozepto | what's wrong with stream images on rocky? | 15:26 |
| yoctozepto | drivers go on host anyway | 15:27 |
| mnasiadka | I don't know if I would feel safe in running that combination, but maybe it would work. | 15:27 |
| yoctozepto | then run debian (-: | 15:27 |
| hrw | Wasn't Rocky EOL already? | 15:27 |
| mnasiadka | OpenStack Rocky? Maybe :) | 15:27 |
| yoctozepto | khekhe | 15:28 |
| yoctozepto | it seems we are unsure on the decision to make | 15:29 |
| yoctozepto | hmm | 15:29 |
| mnasiadka | i think we should also have mgoddard for the discussion, and hrw seems to have no opinion ;-) | 15:30 |
| hrw | I think that it wwe should rather concentrate on Rocky Linux as host in k-a | 15:30 |
| hrw | if RL at all | 15:30 |
| yoctozepto | then hrw sounds like me | 15:31 |
| hrw | note that for images you need also to convince infra to mirror RockyLinux repos | 15:31 |
| hrw | otherwise you eat lot of bandwidth on CI | 15:31 |
| mnasiadka | True, I was not thinking of merging it this cycle, easy. | 15:31 |
| mnasiadka | Let's just maybe add this as a PTG topic, maybe we'll have more opinions then. | 15:32 |
| yoctozepto | ok, then we can postpone this discussion | 15:32 |
| yoctozepto | yeah | 15:32 |
| hrw | it does not matter which cycle | 15:32 |
| mnasiadka | For now DIB/bindep/etc don't support Rocky Linux | 15:32 |
| hrw | lot of work for nearly no gain | 15:32 |
| hrw | as you want source images only | 15:32 |
| yoctozepto | hrw sounds like a harsher version of me | 15:32 |
| yoctozepto | but true that | 15:33 |
| hrw | we have like 2-4 developers, 3 distros, 2 build types... | 15:33 |
| yoctozepto | precisely | 15:33 |
| hrw | I would rather drop binary images than add another distro | 15:33 |
| mnasiadka | I was thinking about that the other day ;-) | 15:33 |
| yoctozepto | I know kevko might be unhappy about that | 15:34 |
| yoctozepto | need to persuade him | 15:34 |
| mnasiadka | Ok, let's postpone this discussion to the PTG. | 15:34 |
| yoctozepto | I'm all in to drop everything and leave one distro and source only ;p | 15:34 |
| hrw | he always can apply for core membership. | 15:34 |
| yoctozepto | I mean, for images | 15:34 |
| hrw | Rocky/Alma are good candidates for host distro | 15:34 |
| yoctozepto | yeah, host is fine | 15:34 |
| yoctozepto | as long as it has decent kernel | 15:35 |
| yoctozepto | and runs docker | 15:35 |
| yoctozepto | we should be good | 15:35 |
| hrw | and that's k-a job. where it will be mostly s/centos/any-rhel-clone/ | 15:35 |
| yoctozepto | yup | 15:35 |
| mnasiadka | That's not complicated, question what happens with CentOS Stream 9 and Yoga - will we be able to run Stream9 images on RHEL 8 compatible operating systems. | 15:35 |
| hrw | with small "shit, rocky" or "meh, centos stream" | 15:35 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: test with debian images only | 15:36 |
| yoctozepto | what's the need for stream in images? ;d | 15:36 |
| mnasiadka | I would ask who needs Stream at all :) | 15:36 |
| yoctozepto | I would say we should change a bit our scope | 15:36 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: that too! lol | 15:36 |
| hrw | *if* we do binary images then we need Stream | 15:37 |
| yoctozepto | yeah, I assume source-only for any further discussion | 15:37 |
| hrw | unless you want to drop rhel family | 15:37 |
| hrw | good topic for PTG then: Should we drop binary images? | 15:38 |
| mnasiadka | I'll add a couple of related topics to the PTG etherpad, like dropping binary, using one distro as base, etc | 15:38 |
| hrw | mnasiadka: #action? | 15:38 |
| yoctozepto | ok | 15:38 |
| mnasiadka | #action mnasiadka to add topics to PTG around dropping binary, using one distro as base, etc | 15:38 |
| mnasiadka | and let's close this pandora box | 15:38 |
| mnasiadka | #topic Release tasks | 15:39 |
| mnasiadka | hrw: I saw a change around adding binary packages to Debian in Xena? | 15:39 |
| yoctozepto | correct | 15:39 |
| mnasiadka | Ok, I guess it would be nice to get that merged as part of release tasks. | 15:40 |
| hrw | yep | 15:40 |
| yoctozepto | also correct | 15:40 |
| mnasiadka | good | 15:40 |
| mnasiadka | #topic Xena cycle planning | 15:40 |
| mnasiadka | I need to update the last of Ansible bump up changes | 15:40 |
| mnasiadka | kevko seems to have updated some of his changes, I'll try to review tomorrow | 15:41 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: what about the Swift role remodeling? Can we stick to one change? Whiteboard mentions two :) | 15:41 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: not following that one atm | 15:42 |
| mnasiadka | ok, so unlikely to get merged I guess | 15:42 |
| yoctozepto | we can always try | 15:42 |
| yoctozepto | it does not change the interface for the users | 15:42 |
| yoctozepto | and shouldn't change experience so | 15:43 |
| yoctozepto | for me it's a bugfix really | 15:43 |
| yoctozepto | fixing the ugliness of the role (-: | 15:43 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/776662 seems to be waiting for you | 15:43 |
| yoctozepto | oh boy | 15:43 |
| yoctozepto | why am I not in "reviewers" then? :D | 15:44 |
| yoctozepto | leaving it in a tab to review at some point | 15:44 |
| mnasiadka | ok, good | 15:44 |
| mnasiadka | seems we've got covered most of the Xena items in kolla/kolla-ansible | 15:45 |
| mnasiadka | the rest is Kayobe, and we've got no representation from them today... | 15:45 |
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| mnasiadka | #topic Yoga PTG planning | 15:45 |
| mnasiadka | There's an action on me to send email, populate etherpad with some ideas | 15:45 |
| mnasiadka | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kolla-yoga-ptg | 15:46 |
| mnasiadka | If anybody has any ideas for topics - please add them as well | 15:46 |
| yoctozepto | is mnasiadka not a representation of kayobe? | 15:46 |
| mnasiadka | I am :) | 15:46 |
| yoctozepto | then mnasiadka is a little liar :-) | 15:47 |
| mnasiadka | But I'll update the status of the changes after the meeting and chase reviewers using a different medium ;-) | 15:47 |
| yoctozepto | ok! | 15:47 |
| mnasiadka | ok then, last but not least | 15:48 |
| mnasiadka | #topic Open discussion | 15:48 |
| mnasiadka | 12 minutes left in the meeting, incredible. | 15:48 |
| yoctozepto | :O | 15:48 |
| yoctozepto | perhaps we skipped some important topic and did not notice | 15:48 |
| hrw | do we have any potential candidates for core? | 15:49 |
| yoctozepto | afaik kevko is trying | 15:49 |
| hrw | good | 15:50 |
| mnasiadka | I think it's good he's trying, but he needs to at least double his review numbers... | 15:50 |
| hrw | also outside of his interests | 15:51 |
| mnasiadka | correct | 15:51 |
| yoctozepto | ++ | 15:51 |
| mnasiadka | Ok, seems no other topics | 15:53 |
| mnasiadka | Or maybe I'll start one - regarding Monasca CI - I don't want to be rude, but I feel we're trying to keep it alive, but one of the components is failing - one that calculates thresholds and alerts on those thresholds (like cpu busy). | 15:54 |
| yoctozepto | just propose to drop the job | 15:54 |
| yoctozepto | I'll accept that | 15:54 |
| yoctozepto | I mean +2 | 15:55 |
| mnasiadka | I'm not into deprecating it now, but let's drop the job and ensure there's a bug raised claiming Monasca does not work in Y or even W (maybe even reflect that in Support Matrix) | 15:55 |
| mnasiadka | Ok, I'll do that. | 15:55 |
| yoctozepto | good thinking | 15:55 |
| yoctozepto | ++ | 15:55 |
| hrw | +2 | 15:55 |
| yoctozepto | I'm also working on that | 15:56 |
| yoctozepto | "ugly projects" | 15:56 |
| yoctozepto | to document and hide behind a var barrier | 15:56 |
| yoctozepto | will propose later this week or next one | 15:56 |
| mnasiadka | ok | 15:56 |
| mnasiadka | so let's end this fine meeting | 15:57 |
| mnasiadka | #endmeeting kolla | 15:57 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Wed Sep 22 15:57:05 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:57 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/kolla/2021/kolla.2021-09-22-15.01.html | 15:57 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/kolla/2021/kolla.2021-09-22-15.01.txt | 15:57 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/kolla/2021/kolla.2021-09-22-15.01.log.html | 15:57 |
| mnasiadka | thanks for attending | 15:57 |
| hrw | thx | 15:57 |
| hrw | for chairing | 15:57 |
| yoctozepto | thanks mnasiadka | 15:58 |
| sorin-mihai | maybe it's just my half broken environment, but in 2 different all-in-one deployments, ussuri and wallaby, i didn't manage to get the monitoring part actually work... never got the time to actually figure what is missing/broken | 15:59 |
| yoctozepto | you mean monitoring with monasca? | 16:00 |
| sorin-mihai | i have a lot of things enabled, tbh i'm not sure if it's just monasca or maybe there's something else missing | 16:01 |
| yoctozepto | but you have some monitoring in mind if you claim it does not work ;p | 16:01 |
| sorin-mihai | i had when i made the deployments. lol | 16:03 |
| yoctozepto | xDDDDD | 16:03 |
| yoctozepto | I appreciate the honesty | 16:04 |
| sorin-mihai | i did manage to connect to kibana web interface, but that was about it | 16:05 |
| mnasiadka | Well, we have two flavors of monitoring - monasca and prometheus | 16:28 |
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| *** mgoddard- is now known as mgoddard | 17:13 | |
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