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| openstackgerrit | Chenchong Qin proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Add default mongod URI to README https://review.openstack.org/81689 | 02:28 |
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| flaper87 | damn, I really need to speak with kgriffs_afk and alcabrera | 12:15 |
| flaper87 | fucking TZ | 12:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Sascha Peilicke proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Fix functional config file instructions https://review.openstack.org/79925 | 12:18 |
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| ekarlso | is there plans to introduce a cassandra backend vs mongo as lifeless (R collins) pointed out ? | 12:32 |
| flaper87 | ekarlso: no | 12:34 |
| flaper87 | ekarlso: we've room for 2 more drivers in the codebase | 12:34 |
| flaper87 | (room: so to speak) | 12:34 |
| flaper87 | 1 in-memory driver | 12:34 |
| flaper87 | 1 amqp based driver | 12:34 |
| flaper87 | The rest of the drivers can be written right away but as of now, they'll have to live outside the code base | 12:35 |
| flaper87 | At least until marconi is solid enough to welcome new drivers | 12:35 |
| ekarlso | flaper87: :'( | 12:35 |
| ekarlso | APGL == evil | 12:35 |
| ekarlso | damned you typo | 12:35 |
| flaper87 | ekarlso: yeah, I know, stupid license :( | 12:36 |
| ekarlso | why was mongo picked vs cassandra anyways ? | 12:36 |
| flaper87 | ekarlso: I guess we could put it this way. If I had to dedicate time on a new storage driver to solve the scale+license issue, it'll definitely be amqp based | 12:36 |
| flaper87 | ekarlso: the gist is: We were already familiar with mongodb | 12:36 |
| ekarlso | ah | 12:37 |
| flaper87 | and the issue with AGPL didn't exist at that time | 12:37 |
| ekarlso | seems folks are introcing Cassandra anyways | 12:37 |
| flaper87 | it all came out when ceilo started using it | 12:37 |
| flwang | flaper87: hey | 12:37 |
| ekarlso | MagnetoDB for one | 12:37 |
| flaper87 | After ceilo was integrated the community realized the issue beind AGPL | 12:37 |
| flaper87 | but we were already ahead on development | 12:38 |
| flaper87 | so... | 12:38 |
| flaper87 | flwang: yo yo | 12:38 |
| flwang | flaper87: can't we package mongodb? | 12:38 |
| flaper87 | flwang: what do you mean? | 12:38 |
| flwang | flaper87: what's the problem you're discussing? | 12:38 |
| flwang | flaper87: sorry for the breaking in :) | 12:39 |
| flaper87 | flwang: mongodb's AGPL license | 12:42 |
| flwang | flaper87: seems it's not friendly for Openstack, is it? | 12:43 |
| ekarlso | flaper87: more like AGPL is pure evil and makes sauron look like a nice kitten :P | 12:44 |
| flaper87 | the issue is not openstack itself but what the requirements of the people deploying openstack are | 12:44 |
| ekarlso | really I think it's due to the copyleft stuff | 12:44 |
| flaper87 | ekarlso: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL | 12:44 |
| ekarlso | and other licensing clauses | 12:44 |
| flaper87 | I mean, to be fair, we don't require AGPL things because pymongo is Apache licensed | 12:44 |
| flaper87 | the problem is that well, it talks to an AGPL licensed database | 12:44 |
| flaper87 | :D | 12:44 |
| ekarlso | Cassandra on the other hand goes hand in hand with OS as it's Apache | 12:45 |
| flwang | flaper87: i see. so you mean that user need to handle the license, right? | 12:45 |
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| flaper87 | yeah, hence the work we did on sqlalchemy | 12:48 |
| flaper87 | anyway, still lot to be done | 12:48 |
| flwang | flaper87: +1 | 12:49 |
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| sriram | Good morning :) | 13:18 |
| flaper87 | sriram: good morning | 13:21 |
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| sriram | flaper87: How is it going? | 13:23 |
| flaper87 | sriram: all good, you? | 13:25 |
| sriram | flaper87: pretty good too :) | 13:26 |
| flaper87 | sriram: I don't have kgriffs_afk number but, could you please call him and wake him up? | 13:26 |
| flaper87 | I'll have to go offline in a bit AND I need to talk to him :D | 13:27 |
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| flaper87 | ametts: I'm sure you have kgriffs_afk number :P | 13:27 |
| flaper87 | wake him up :D | 13:27 |
| flaper87 | com' on | 13:27 |
| flaper87 | :P | 13:27 |
| flaper87 | damn, fucking TZ | 13:27 |
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| ametts | flaper87: I can text him. | 13:29 |
| flaper87 | ametts: hehe, that's ok, I was joking :) | 13:30 |
| flaper87 | I can wait | 13:30 |
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| sriram | lol | 13:30 |
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| mpanetta | I think alej is on vacation | 14:51 |
| mpanetta | and kgriffs_afk is taking a break | 14:51 |
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| flwang | kgriffs: ping | 15:38 |
| kgriffs | o/ | 15:38 |
| flwang | kgriffs: did you see the mail list about the AGPL discussion? | 15:38 |
| * kgriffs was on a shuttle this morning and in meetings | 15:39 | |
| kgriffs | flwang: not yet | 15:39 |
| kgriffs | what's the TL;DR? | 15:39 |
| flwang | kgriffs: now it's a hot topic :) | 15:39 |
| flwang | kgriffs: somebody have the concern about we're using Mongodb as the backend | 15:39 |
| kgriffs | that was brought up when incubated, and we were told a sqla driver would alleviate that concern. | 15:40 |
| flwang | kgriffs: but IMO, it's unreasonable | 15:40 |
| kgriffs | and if not that, our redis driver should | 15:40 |
| flwang | kgriffs: yep, and I would say the license should be handled by deployer, we just provide the driver, so it's not a problem, IMHO. | 15:42 |
| flwang | and as you now, the mongodb driver of Ceilometer has been there for a long time | 15:43 |
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| kgriffs | replied | 16:30 |
| flwang | kgriffs: reading... | 16:34 |
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| kgriffs | folks, I think Mark's FAQ ideas is a good one and we should work on fleshing it out. See the link he provided in his last comment, here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81607/ | 16:52 |
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| kgriffs | guys, gotta run to a meeting. | 17:02 |
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| kgriffs | folks, just popping in real quick to let you know why I've been MIA today - I'm in San Antonio working on some internal Rackspace things today and have had a ton of meetings. | 19:18 |
| kgriffs | malini, flwang, flaper87|afk, megan_w:^^^ | 19:20 |
| kgriffs | gotta run to another one now. :p | 19:20 |
| kgriffs | ttfn | 19:20 |
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