Tuesday, 2014-06-24

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thomasemo/15:01
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s1rp_still doing the libvirt meeting today?15:03
thomasemno idear15:03
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david-lyleanyone care to chat about Horizon?16:00
jpich:-)16:00
tmazur:)16:00
david-lyle#startmeeting Horizon16:00
jristo/16:00
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openstackMeeting started Tue Jun 24 16:00:31 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is david-lyle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'horizon'16:00
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jristwb, david-lyle16:00
akrivokahi everyone16:00
akrivoka\o16:00
david-lyleHello everyone!16:00
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santibhi guys16:00
tmazuro/16:00
jgravelhi16:00
gary-smithHi and welcome back16:01
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crobertsrhhello16:01
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Kadencehello16:01
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doug-fishhi all16:01
jomaraahoy16:01
rdopieralskihi16:01
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lblanchardhi all16:01
david-lyleAfter a protracted absence I came back in time to break the openstack gate for the better part of the day on Sat, so I can literally say you were better off without me16:01
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akrivokalol :)16:01
rdopieralskiwe missed you :)16:01
david-lyleOn the plus side, you can now log into Horizon on devstack again16:02
jristvn16:02
david-lylenot much on the formal agenda today16:02
* doug-fish will picture jomara as a pirate from now on16:02
jomaradoug-fish: thank you, i am16:02
doug-fish:-)16:03
david-lyle#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Horizon16:03
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david-lyle#topic Juno-2 status16:03
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david-lyle#link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/juno-216:03
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david-lyleFor having so many blueprints slated for J-2 we are actually in good shape16:04
david-lylethere are a few items that have a status of Not Started, if that's not true please update16:04
david-lylealso a couple of items without owners, if these are yours and you're working on them please assign yourself16:05
david-lylebook-keeping makes me happy16:05
jpichor ask a "driver" to assign you16:05
david-lyleyes16:05
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david-lyleThere are several bps that have been added that don't have a priority yet. I will look at those shortly, or any core is more than welcome to approve, prioritize bps16:06
jristrdopieralski: were you on this? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/configurable-plugin-config-location16:06
lsmola__hello16:06
rdopieralskijrist: nope16:07
jpichdavid-lyle: There were some concerns/questions last week as to whether cores are allowed to approve BPs or if it's only under the remit of the PTL (I think the former, very strongly to avoid overloading the PTL role but better clarify now!)16:07
rdopieralskijrist: but it will become irrelevant if we switch to ini files16:07
rdopieralskijrist: or maybe not16:07
david-lyleReading back, that question came up when I was gone. My stance is that any core can prioritize/schedule/approve bps, just leave a note if you are moving it to a milestone other than the one it's currently assigned to16:08
david-lylesame for bugs16:08
rdopieralskiis there a description of the blueprint workflow somewhere?16:08
david-lyleif we wait on me, we may be waiting for some time16:08
rdopieralskiI'm not sure what the different statuses mean, for example16:08
david-lylerdopieralski: I think there may be a general one for openstack16:09
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rdopieralskiWhat's the difference between status:approved and direction:approved?16:09
david-lylefor Horizon the process I inherited, which we may revisit at a later date is fairly loose16:09
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jpichdavid-lyle: Makes sense to me, thanks16:10
jpichrdopieralski: http://wiki.openstack.org/Blueprints16:10
david-lylefields we really care about: Status, Milestone-target, Series goal, Approver, Implementation and Assignee16:10
rdopieralskijpich: awesome, thanks, now I feel silly16:10
jpich:P16:10
david-lyleif a bp is a point of discussion, the direction should be drafting or discussion16:10
jpichSome of these fields we don't use much16:10
david-lyleSo the only concern with all cores prioritizing/scheduling bps, make sure we're not approving conflicting work :)16:12
jpichyeah, it's difficult to keep track of bps16:12
nlahoutihow about definition:drafting16:12
david-lyleso keep up with the scheduled bps16:12
david-lyleoops, before when I said direction drafting, I meant definition: drafting16:13
david-lylenlahouti: your bp is approved but waiting on neutron changes16:13
david-lyleconsider it approved even if it doesn't indicate, I will update16:14
david-lyleI think another question while I was gone re: bps was a specs repo16:15
nlahoutidavid-lyle: thx david. I didn't see in the bp.16:15
david-lylenlahouti: may not be done yet, mentally done on my side :)16:15
jristdavid-lyle: yeah, I replied to akrivoka but wasn't sure how it'd work16:15
jristre: specs16:15
nlahoutidavid-lyle: :) thx a lot.16:15
david-lylepersonally I think we could use one for ux designs, beyond that I'm not sure16:16
jpichdavid-lyle: Indeed, your input on the thread would be appreciated  ( http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/037290.html )16:16
jpichIt does seem heavyweight when we're often adding simple support for existing API16:16
jpichI think the UX team are trying to determine what's the best place/tool/location for them to store designs at the moment16:17
david-lylewe don't publish an API and for the majority of changes we don't have a formal design until the code is up for review16:17
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jpichI guess the question would be, should we change that and formally review blueprints earlier?16:17
david-lyleI'm happy to revisit, and I get the feeling it may be a requirement for the K cycle for all of openstack16:18
jpichConsidering we're having difficulties keeping up with reviews16:18
akrivokaI think some more complex features would benefit from a design discussion prior to putting the code up for review16:18
david-lyleakrivoka: absolutely, and that's happened in various forums over time16:18
akrivokait certainly should not be mandatory for every bp, IMO16:18
david-lylea specs repo would make sense for that16:19
david-lyleWe would definitely benefit from a stricter bp process16:20
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david-lyleI think that's something we need to target for K16:20
akrivokadavid-lyle: makes sense16:21
david-lyleat this point the list of bps is fairly set for J and we just need to follow through on them16:21
david-lyle#action: david-lyle better formalize the bp process prior to K, be it specs or other16:22
david-lyle#topic Sahara16:23
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crobertsrh:)16:23
crobertsrhIt looks like we gained some momentum on reviews last week with mrunge and Tatiana lending some core reviews.  This is 1 of 5 j2 high priority blueprints, so hopefully we will build on that this week.  Ideally, the merge can be completed soon since there is additional work that we would like to get in for the Juno release and we'd like to be able to give plenty of time for those reviews as well.16:23
crobertsrhAlso, I updated the Sahara patches to no longer require the "enabled/*" files.  As a part of that, I uncovered a couple bugs:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1333739 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1329050 .  I haven't really had a chance to look closely at them yet, so if anyone cares to jump in, please go for it.16:23
david-lyleI'm currently setting up my devstack to work with Sahara so I can better exercise the patches16:24
david-lylewe do really need to prioritize supporting Sahara in J16:24
crobertsrhAwesome.  Let me know if you have issues.16:24
crobertsrhor anyone in #openstack-sahara can likely help you out if I'm not around.16:25
david-lylecrobertsrh: thanks for keeping on top of all your patches16:25
crobertsrhI currently live [and die] for it :)16:25
david-lyle#topic Mid-Cycle Meetup16:26
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david-lyleI believe this was brought up and killed, just wanted to make sure I'm caught up here16:26
akrivokayeah, pretty much16:27
jristboom16:27
david-lyleI see value in a sprint at some point to develop a coherent architect for the client side work, but the timing of such a sprint??16:27
david-lyleWhat I don't want to have is a bunch of ad-hoc work on the clientside code that leaves us in a worse state than we started16:28
david-lylewe could benefit from getting a number of people in a room to work through the overall design and sticking points16:28
tqtranagree16:28
jomara+1, i am working on a heat feature that is going to require some decisions about that16:28
jpichWas there discussions about a client sprint?16:29
jpichfor this cycle?16:29
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david-lylejpich: that was my response to the mid-cycle meetup on the mailing list16:29
* jpich lots of emails about sprints/mid-cycles going through the last couple of months16:29
* david-lyle may have imagined responding16:29
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david-lyleat this point, such sprint would likely have to be in late July or early August16:30
jomarai will have plenty of code by then you can all sprint over16:31
david-lylethat's fairly late in the cycle but could set us up well for better progress in K16:31
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jpichIf it's too close to feature freeze / milestone 3 lots of people we'd like to have present may ignore it though16:32
david-lylejomara, I think several people will/do, so that makes a little late to be of maximum benefit16:32
tzumainntripleo had some difficulty coordinating a midcycle over that same time frame16:32
jpichI agree it'd be great to have either way though!16:32
tzumainnso if it's desired, it probably should be planned reallllly soon16:32
jristfor K16:33
david-lyleI think August is a poor choice for most European folks? is that correct?16:33
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jomarais sprint === IRL meetup?16:33
tzumainnoh, my bad16:33
tzumainnI got confused16:33
david-lylejomara: yeah16:33
tzumainnoh, nevermind16:33
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tqtran:O IRL not IRC, i didnt misread that?16:34
jpichSummer time can be more difficult to coordinate around16:35
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david-lylesomething to consider quickly, I think it's necessary and would greatly benefit K if it happened prior to K16:35
david-lylejpich: understood16:35
jpichbut till there's dates, who knows - maybe everyone is going on holidays in July this year16:36
jomarajpich: i am going in august!16:36
jpichjomara: If you're not European you're not allowed to :(16:36
david-lyleI went in June to avoid such conflicts, yay planning16:36
tqtranwow, is usually eu vacation month?16:37
tqtran*August, eu16:37
tzumainnwhat tripleo did was set up an etherpad with proposed dates and people signed up so that people could see if there was a growing consensus16:37
jpichtzumainn: Sounds like a good idea to steal16:37
jpichI mean16:37
jpichborrow16:37
david-lylewe'd need a host and dates16:38
tzumainnsorry, you can't have our etherpad16:38
jristjpich: it's open source, just fork it16:38
tzumainnlol16:38
david-lyleanyone up for setting up the etherpad16:38
david-lyleacceptable outcome is that we all have lives that don't allow for a sprint as well16:38
david-lylebut you really went into the wrong field if that's already true16:39
david-lyle:)16:39
jpichLives are ok, people should get them16:39
tzumainnhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-horizon-meetup ?16:39
david-lylethanks tzumainn16:40
david-lyle#topic Open Discussion16:40
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david-lyleI want to give a big thanks to jpich and mrunge for picking up my slack while I was gone.16:41
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jpichhaha, anytime! ...actually no not too often16:41
jpich;)16:41
tzumainnlol16:41
tzumainnthey did a great job, I thought16:41
doug-fishagreed, well done jpich and mrunge16:42
akrivokathanks jpich and mrunge !16:42
doug-fishrelated to the client side discussion, I wanted to chat about this review:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86089/16:42
doug-fishThis is Maxime's work to reimplement the launch instance form in angular.  I'm concerned that its becoming so large (its 8k+ loc now) that it's going to be really hard to review.16:42
doug-fishDo other reviewers think this is a problem?  Is there anything that can be done to make this more reviewable?16:42
doug-fish(or maybe I have to wait for the meetup to have that discussion)?16:43
jristI +1 the problem. the sahara stuff has been tough to review16:43
jomaradoug-fish: FWIW, i am working on a a smaller, but identically architected patch that will be easier to review16:43
david-lyledoug-fish: there is a todo in the commit message to split that up16:43
jpichdoug-fish: Definitely don't wait for a physical meetup to open a discussion16:43
doug-fishoh great16:43
david-lyleit's really several bps in one16:43
jpichand yes 8K sounds a bit over the line... glad to hear it'll be split up :)16:44
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doug-fishI can't think about that much code at once!16:44
tzumainnjomara, are you working with maxime to coordinate work?  or will there be two different implementations?16:44
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david-lylemy other concern moving forward with AngularJS is we don't have to convert everything just because we can, we should be looking to places where it provides immediate benefit, otherwise we are just destabilizing our code base16:45
jpichRight16:46
crobertsrh+1 to that thought, david-lyle.16:46
jpichI think there are thoughts that because we have adopted AngularJS we should become more of a Angular project and get rid of most of the current django backend?16:47
jpichwhile others would agree more with your sentiment16:47
jomaratzumainn: i am16:47
jomaratzumainn: its the same architecture, different code16:47
jpichdavid-lyle: What you suggest makes sense to me16:48
tsufievjpich, is there a kind of plan to get rid of django eventually?16:49
jpichI don't think so now16:49
jpichs/now/no/16:49
tqtranjpich: i think angular can work well with django, we are shifting some of the server responsibility to reduce load on server16:49
doug-fishIMO we'd never get rid of django entirely16:49
tzumainnjomara, your heat work required angular, right?16:49
jpichMaybe it makes sense for new work that can benefit from angular, like jomara's work it sounds like?16:50
tqtrantsufiev: i agree with doug, django is here to stay, its a matter of getting angular to work with django16:50
jomaratzumainn: yes16:50
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jpichrather than rewriting the existing? though the launch instance form does need a lot of rework either way...16:50
david-lyleone reason angular was chosen is because it wasn't all or none16:50
tsufievtqtran, django is fine to me, was just curious :)16:50
absubramdavid-lyle: amotoki: This is regarding the UT change that we spoke about in the Atlanta summit.. I submitted review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/90093/ to address that.. I know amotoki had a couple comments about it (version 5).. and I have commented back.. could you please take a look and respond?.. I think version 5 should be the final solution.. I've posted more comments today16:51
jomarathe django/angular integration proposed at the juno summit seems like a really nice architecture16:51
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tqtranit is, but theres a few issues we have to get a consensus on16:51
david-lylelaunch instance is certainly an area for improvement and if angular aids in that, which I think it does, then that makes sense16:52
tqtransuch as how django translation can be handled in angular16:52
tzumainnsounds like this architecture could have benefited from a spec : )16:52
tzumainnbut in the absence of that, would it make sense to have the proposed architecture on the mailing list16:52
tzumainnor somewhere else where it could be discussed?16:53
doug-fishtzumainn - I'm hoping that jomara's smaller scale patch will serve as a good platform for discussion16:53
david-lyleabsubram: I'll put it in my queue16:53
absubramthanks much David!16:54
MAnspachis there ux work happening on launch instance?16:54
tzumainndoug-fish, fair enough - I could just imagine it being discouraging if issues come up that mean that the entire patch has to be reworked16:54
jpichMAnspach: Yes! I think a lot of it is being tracked there: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/launch-instance-ux-enhancement16:54
MAnspachcool, will have a look!16:55
lsmola__doug-fish: btw. maxime has todo there for splitting up the patch16:55
doug-fishtzumainn: sure, understood.16:55
doug-fishlsmola__:  yeah, I didn't see the todo - I think getting it split up would help me a lot16:55
doug-fishI wanted to chat about this review too https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91338/16:56
doug-fishThis is a translatability improvement that lets actions be translated as more complete fragments.16:56
doug-fishIt's a good fix by itself, but also an enablement fix so other tables can be fixed.16:56
david-lyledoug-fish: to be fair 5k lines of that is javascript library includes which should go away with xstatic16:56
doug-fishdavid-lyle:  fair enough.  Still 3k is enough to overflow my brain.16:56
doug-fishmaybe I'm due for an upgrade16:56
david-lylenot arguing the need to break it up, but the 8k scared me off completely16:57
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tqtranlol16:57
doug-fishI'd love to see the translation fix merge soon-ish so translations can begin, but it's not getting much attention.16:58
jpichdoug-fish: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91338/ ?16:58
doug-fish(checking my link)16:58
doug-fishyeah that's it16:59
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david-lyleyeah BatchAction translation16:59
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jpichYes, definitely one to get in soon or it'll miss J (or cause translators to hate us)16:59
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doug-fishyeah exactly17:00
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jpichOk we're overtime17:01
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david-lyleThanks everyone17:02
jpichThanks everyone!17:02
david-lyle#endmetting17:02
david-lyle#endmeeting17:02
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akrivokathanks, bye everyone17:02
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tzumainnthanks all!17:02
absubramthanks and bye!17:02
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tmazurthanks all!17:02
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pballandhello all17:02
sarobHey17:02
pballand#startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting17:03
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:03
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thinrichsHi all17:03
rajdeepHi All17:03
kudvaHi17:03
sarobHi17:04
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skn_hi guys17:04
pballandlast week, we were looking at the use case document, and voting17:04
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pballandthere has been some progress, but I think there’s still some work to do17:05
sarobYup17:05
pballandit looks like the majority of use cases require some sort of action, which is good, but will take a bit longer to get to17:05
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sarobWe need to get a few blueprints targeted for Juno-2 and 317:06
skn_Hi Peter, I have added some policies for the security use cases17:06
pballandit is also helpful to have the data soruces listed17:06
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pballandmy preferece are the cases that have multiple data sources, since they leverage a unique capability of congress17:07
thinrichsI see we have data sources/policy/actions listed for almost all the use cases—this is super helpful!17:07
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skn_Yeah, I have some data sources too17:07
sarobI'll need to review again17:07
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pballandif anyone has yet to review or vote, please do so ASAP, so we can push as blueprints17:08
sarobWhen do we want to assign blueprints?17:08
sarobThat we give us a date to work backward from17:09
rajdeepsome data sources are listed as generic : RDBMS or some name which i dont understand17:09
sarobWhen we need to finish up specs and the use cases17:09
pballandI think we should target this week - does that sound reasonable?17:09
thinrichsThere are 2 things here: writing up the blueprint and doing the work required for the blueprint.17:09
rajdeepit will be great to elaborate17:09
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thinrichsI *think* that the work required to implement the blueprint in most cases is writing a datasource driver or two.17:09
thinrichsExcept for adding the ability to execute actions.  Which I’m guessing I’ll end up doing.17:10
pballandsarob: I think you had offered to do the blueprint conversion from the doc - is that something you can do this week?17:10
sarobDef17:10
sarobJust when to pull the trigger17:11
pballandso let’s put the deadline for use cases and voting at end of day tomorrow (Wed)17:11
skn_yup17:11
sarobSounds good17:11
pballand…at which point we deprecate the google doc17:11
pballand#action Final use case submission and voting deadline is Wednesday17:11
sarobSo blueprints on diff features of the use cases17:12
pballand#action sarob to convert top use cases to blueprints17:12
pballandother tracking items…17:12
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sarobLike per data source, project action17:12
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thinrichssarob: are we talking about 1 blueprint per use case?  Or are we talking 1 blueprint per datasource driver?17:13
sarobBlueprint per specific features17:13
sarobwe use blueprint like storyboard cards17:13
sarobSpecific actionable dev17:14
pballandit seems like a blueprint per datasource is appropriate, then the policy use cases should be fairly straightforward17:14
thinrichsAs long as we don’t lose the info currently in the gdoc, I’m happy.  It’s useful to see all of that info all in 1 place.17:14
sarobIf it's too large of effort then difficult to gauge progress17:14
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pballandeach datasource is pretty well self-contained17:15
sarobThinichs I'll move it to the wiki17:15
pballandsarob: why move it?17:15
sarobWe want the info to be public and debatable17:15
pballandthe google doc is public - am I missing something?17:16
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sarobWiki is more standard17:16
thinrichsBut people can’t leave comments (as easily) on the wiki.17:16
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sarobNot that big of a deal17:16
sarobJust not how the rest of the teams works17:16
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pballandwe’re agreed on the blueprints, lets start there, and see how it goes17:17
sarobWe are still planning on gdoc to spec to blueprint. Right?17:17
skn_sarob: Looks like it17:17
sarobI assumed you guys were using shorthand17:17
sarobJust wanted to double heck17:18
sarobCheck17:18
pballandsounds right17:18
sarobCoolo17:18
pballandgreat, lets move on17:18
pballandwe seem to be back on track with code reviews, thanks to everyone who jumped in17:19
pballandon the code front, we are pushing toward getting an alpha release ready...17:19
pballandthinrichs: how’s the policy/dse integration going?17:19
thinrichsMaking good progress.17:19
thinrichsLate last week I hooked up a live Neutron to the system and evaluated policy over it.17:20
pballandsweet!17:20
skn_thinrichs: thats awesome17:20
thinrichsThis week I’m adding hooks for pballand’s API work.17:20
thinrichsrajdeep’s driver’s worked without a hitch!17:20
sarobDouble sweet17:20
thinrichsOn the real system.17:20
thinrichsAnd I’m being pretty good about expanding our  test suite so we should know when we break things later on.17:21
pballandas thinrichs mentioned - I pushed the API framework to review, and am working with thinrichs to integrate the calls with the policy enginge (which is the source of truth for much of the data exposed)17:21
pballandI’ve not been as good at updating the test suite, but am working on it :)17:22
pballandkudva: are you around?17:22
kudvapballand: yes17:22
pballandhow are things going with the policy runtime work?17:23
kudvapballand: Good, testing the integration of builtin with runtime. Making progress.17:23
kudvapballand: hope to have something to report next week17:24
thinrichskudva: let me know if you need any more pointers.17:24
thinrichskudva found that we were implicitly assuming Python 2.7 or higher17:24
kudvathinrichs: Yes, I will update the requirements document. Had some issues with 2.6, switched to 2.717:25
kudvathinrichs: now it works great with 2.717:25
pballandit would be helpful to document all of these dependencies, any takers?17:25
kudva pballand: also getting a tutorial from rajdeep on data source drivers for future ceilometer integration (seems like that will be important to learn)17:25
kudvapballand: I can update the python one.17:25
pballandkudva: sounds great17:26
kudvapballand: I meant data source drivers in general (possibly ceilometer also, but we can decide that later)17:26
pballandkudva: got it - any blockers?17:26
kudvapballand:  none so far, moving forward17:27
kudvapballand: rajdeep agreed to take me through the code, so :)17:27
pballandkudva: good to hear :)17:27
pballandcloudtoa_: any progress on oslo.messaging?17:27
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banixsorry guys for being late; stuck in another meeting17:28
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pballandI guess cloudtoa_ stepped out17:28
pballandbanix: glad you could join17:29
pballandbanix: we were just finishing up on updates - do you have anything to share?17:30
banixpballand: Just got started trying out Congress!17:30
banixHave been looking ta the code and will be spending more time wrt testing; got some pointers from Tim so will have more to share next week17:31
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sarobBanix get your use case input in today17:31
banixsarob: will do17:31
sarob:)17:32
pballandsome people have been asking about status/work items, so I thought it would be worthwhile to quickly summarize where I think we are…17:32
pballandcurrent “sprint” has been toward getting an ‘alpha’ ready, which we’ve defined as getting the code to a point where people can easily download and run, executing some monitoring use cases17:34
pballandthe alpha is currently blocking on a integration between policy and API, which thinrichs and I are pushing through17:34
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pballandafter that, the next goals we’re working toward are additional data sources, and the enforcement use cases that we’ve been discussing for the past few weeks17:35
banixwhen you say policy you mean the policy engine? the runtime?17:35
pballandbanix: yes, I use those terms interchangably17:36
banixpballand: thx.17:36
pballandother work including built-ins by kudva also will be very useful as we add additional features17:37
pballandthere is a long feature roadmap, but I wanted to share what I see as the current status17:38
pballanddoes anyone have other high-priority items they are tracking?17:38
banixis the API piece in for review or not yet?17:38
banixin stackforge i meant17:39
pballandbanix: the framework is in for review (you can actually make requests against it), but it isn’t wired to any actual data17:39
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thinrichsLink: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101672/17:40
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banix#link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101672/17:40
banixsorry… lwas looking for the same link17:40
pballandthat’s all I had on the agenda for this week17:41
pballand#topic Open Discussion17:41
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pballandanyone have something they wanted to discuss?17:42
skn_Sorry I missed out most of the discussion since I am sort of multitasking. Did we discuss a timeline on the alpha?17:42
pballandok, I think that’s a wrap for this week17:42
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pballandskn_: the alpha will be ready as soon as we get the final api/policy integration pushed - we are hoping for the end of this week17:43
skn_Awesome, once we have something, we should create a plan for the use case implementation for a demo for Juno17:44
sarobThx guys17:45
pballandskn_: absolutely, let’s talk about in more detail next week17:45
skn_Yup17:45
pballandthanks everyone for joining, we’ll see you next week17:45
banixskn_: good17:45
pballand#endmeeting17:45
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banixskn_: idea17:45
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banixbye17:45
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thinrichsBye17:45
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briancurtin#startmeeting python-openstacksdk19:00
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briancurtin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/PythonOpenStackSDK#Agenda_for_2014-06-24_1900_UTC19:00
briancurtinif you're here for the python-openstacksdk meeting, say hi19:01
briancurtinBrian Curtin, Rackspace19:01
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edleafe   Ed Leafe, Rackspace19:01
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terrylhoweTerry Howe, HP19:01
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briancurtini guess this might be quick19:04
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briancurtini see jamie is away19:04
terrylhoweAlex and Jamie said they wouldn’t be here19:05
briancurtinah19:05
terrylhoweI pinged Dean in the SDK room19:05
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briancurtinterrylhowe: well while we're here, i don't have a review ready or anything, but i'm currently working on fitting head requests into the resource since ive been toying with early swift stuff19:07
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terrylhoweah yeh, the resource doesn’t support HEAD at the moment19:07
terrylhoweswift I think will be the biggest square peg19:08
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briancurtinyep. i'm doing things a bit hackish at the moment, but will try to break it up as i get more of it figured out19:10
briancurtini guess if dean comes around we can probably just chat in -sdks. anyone opposed to breaking this up and getting back to work?19:12
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terrylhowesounds good if edleafe has nothing19:12
edleafeI got nothing. I'm catching up when I have the time19:13
briancurtinterrylhowe i'll try to get someone on a second review of the service filter change, and i owe a look at the latest image resource patchset19:14
briancurtinand with that...19:14
briancurtin#endmeeting19:14
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briancurtin(i'm not going to bother sending those out, just killing it so it doesnt log forever)19:14
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