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| sarob | #startmeeting ambassadors | 08:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 16 08:03:41 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ambassadors)" | 08:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ambassadors' | 08:03 |
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| sarob | roll call | 08:03 |
| kavit | aye | 08:04 |
| mrmartin | o/ | 08:04 |
| sarob | agenda #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ambassadors#Agenda_16_December | 08:05 |
| sarob | a few sent regrets | 08:05 |
| sarob | we should get some more at the next one | 08:05 |
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| sarob | before we start in on stuff | 08:06 |
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| sarob | hey guys | 08:06 |
| egallen | Hi Ambassadors | 08:06 |
| sarob | we should figure out how to stagger the meeting times | 08:07 |
| sarob | im okay with this, but east coast US it is 2am | 08:07 |
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| sarob | maybe like the first week of every month is this date and time | 08:08 |
| mrmartin | I think somebody will always suffer. | 08:08 |
| sarob | second is friday 1800 GMT | 08:08 |
| sarob | mrmartin: true | 08:09 |
| kavit | I think I can work with both 0800 hrs GMT and 1800 hrs GMT | 08:09 |
| mrmartin | So I support both the Tuesday and Friday meeting. Or move to Central-Europe :) | 08:09 |
| sarob | anyone else on time ? | 08:09 |
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| mrmartin | anyway the number of attendees this time raised by 100%. nice job. | 08:10 |
| sarob | :) | 08:11 |
| mrmartin | so let's start with the agenda | 08:11 |
| sarob | okay let the date and time simmer for a bit | 08:11 |
| sarob | we will come back to it | 08:11 |
| mrmartin | first week of the month perfect | 08:11 |
| sarob | cool | 08:11 |
| mrmartin | For January, is it Jan 6 and 9 or Jan 2 or 9? | 08:11 |
| sarob | mrmartin and sarob meet last friday | 08:12 |
| sarob | 06 jan | 08:12 |
| sarob | looks like | 08:12 |
| sarob | okay agenda | 08:12 |
| mrmartin | Jan 2 / 6 | 08:12 |
| sarob | i believe it would be 06 jan 08:00 gmt | 08:13 |
| mrmartin | so the Friday/Tuesday will be on the same week of the first week of the month. | 08:13 |
| sarob | mrmartin: no, it would be first week tuesday, like 06 jan | 08:14 |
| mrmartin | ok, so 06 jan 08.00GMT and 09 jan 18.00GMT | 08:14 |
| sarob | mrmartin: 06 jan 08:00 gmt, then 16 jan 18:00 gmt | 08:14 |
| kavit | cool | 08:15 |
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| sarob | #topic review last week meeting notes | 08:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "review last week meeting notes (Meeting topic: ambassadors)" | 08:15 | |
| sarob | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ambassadors/2014/ambassadors.2014-12-15-23.39.log.html | 08:15 |
| mrmartin | ok so from my side we have this patch, waiting for approval: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141652/ | 08:15 |
| sarob | mrmartin: patched the community channel so it is logging to eavesdrop now | 08:15 |
| sarob | mrmartin: is working on oauth2 for groups | 08:16 |
| mrmartin | and the infra not supported to add meetbot on #openstack-community, and I can agree with that, this is the reason we are using offical meeting channels. | 08:16 |
| sarob | mrmartin: correct | 08:16 |
| mrmartin | regarding the oauth2, the SSL patch was approved on late Friday, and I'm moving in patches to the dev-groups portal and I can make a release, when everything works well | 08:17 |
| kavit | I am going to start on the starter packs for new groups this week, I will need a contact on the training team and also on the marketing team so I can get the ball rolling | 08:17 |
| mrmartin | I found a bug yesterday the required a fix, I'm delivering this today. | 08:17 |
| mrmartin | the / that | 08:17 |
| sarob | kavit: okay, im your man for the training team | 08:17 |
| sarob | kavit: start with lauren sell on the marketing | 08:18 |
| kavit | OK, we need demo/short half day workshop images I think, something to ease people into openstack | 08:18 |
| sarob | kavit: images? | 08:19 |
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| kavit | sarob, yes like virtual box or vagrant images that can be downloaded by new user groups to do an Intro to OpenStack workshop/hands on thing | 08:20 |
| mrmartin | kavit: I definieltly support this, a solution that can work without internet connection. | 08:20 |
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| sarob | kavit: ah, okay. there is no place to hold images. | 08:20 |
| sarob | kavit: we do have osbash scripts to build using virtualbox | 08:21 |
| sarob | kavit: as part of the training project | 08:21 |
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| sarob | kavit: we are working on kvm/libvert support this cycle | 08:21 |
| kavit | sarob, hrm that could be problematic if people are at a venue with a slowish internet connection (as is the case many times in tier 2 or tier 3 cities here in India) | 08:22 |
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| mrmartin | can't we store images here: http://tarballs.openstack.org ? | 08:22 |
| sarob | mrmartin: never asked | 08:22 |
| mrmartin | kavit: we have the same issues of the venue's internet quality. don't except a pub or caffe with high-bandwidth internet connection | 08:22 |
| mrmartin | we could use packer to build demo images | 08:23 |
| kavit | maybe the speaker can prepare the images in advance and distribute them, I think either apt or yum with cached packages would make life so much easier | 08:23 |
| mrmartin | maybe based on devstack | 08:23 |
| sarob | mrmartin: i would assume a few images would be more space than the whole release | 08:23 |
| sarob | mrmartin: guys slow down | 08:23 |
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| mrmartin | what you think about distribution of packer configurations? | 08:23 |
| sarob | we have the osbash scripts working | 08:23 |
| sarob | no reason to start something new | 08:24 |
| sarob | work with the trainer team | 08:24 |
| kavit | sarob, I am happy to try them out, sure | 08:24 |
| sarob | otherwise you will end up supporting it, and thats a lot of work | 08:24 |
| mrmartin | ok. | 08:25 |
| sarob | kavit: the trainer team would love to have the feedback and ideas on how to improve | 08:25 |
| kavit | ok cool, I will contact you off list and take it from there | 08:25 |
| kavit | I will also try and collate some slide decks by the next meeting | 08:25 |
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| sarob | last things from the last meeting | 08:26 |
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| sarob | i asked mrmartin to add a few things on the todo list | 08:26 |
| sarob | google on air, meetup api support | 08:26 |
| sarob | id like to add region , user group attributes to the foundation profiles | 08:27 |
| sarob | so speakers and ambassadors can list their coverage | 08:27 |
| mrmartin | I suggest for the next phase to assign real users to their groups in groups portal | 08:28 |
| mrmartin | the foundation profile thing won't be easy, I think will take for a time | 08:28 |
| sarob | real users? | 08:28 |
| mrmartin | becuase the data is not decoupled from private informations. | 08:28 |
| sarob | you mean the user group organizer | 08:28 |
| mrmartin | yeap, so we need to ask Group Leaders to login, and share their username with us | 08:29 |
| sarob | ah, okay | 08:29 |
| mrmartin | so I can assign them to their groups, because this information now comes from a groups.json file. | 08:29 |
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| mrmartin | So we need to start this transition process, and finally we don't need to use groups.json as a data source for portals | 08:29 |
| sarob | maybe we should just farm that out to the ambassadors to come up with the user group organizers | 08:29 |
| sarob | a lot easier than tracking down 65+ people | 08:30 |
| mrmartin | exactly, I'll send out a mail to ambassador list, when all the auth related changes rolled out and it is working with the new oauth2. | 08:30 |
| sarob | i already know everyone in the US | 08:30 |
| sarob | mrmartin: cool | 08:30 |
| mrmartin | we can do it with egallen in EU | 08:31 |
| mrmartin | who can help in Asia? | 08:31 |
| egallen | Yes we can do it | 08:31 |
| sarob | kavit: ? | 08:31 |
| kavit | sure, i can help | 08:32 |
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| mrmartin | we can use the google sheet made by Tom for official groups. | 08:33 |
| sarob | action: mrmartin will put out a request to track down the user group organizers, those on this meeting will help lead the effort | 08:33 |
| sarob | #action: mrmartin will put out a request to track down the user group organizers, those on this meeting will help lead the effort | 08:33 |
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| sarob | #action kavit is working on the starter packs | 08:34 |
| sarob | #topic review action items from the summit | 08:35 |
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| sarob | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ambassador-meeting-20141107 | 08:35 |
| sarob | kavit already listed his | 08:35 |
| mrmartin | Official user group process? | 08:36 |
| sarob | mrmartin: can you be ready to run down the state of the groups portal using storyboard for the next meeting? | 08:36 |
| mrmartin | of course | 08:37 |
| sarob | cool | 08:37 |
| mrmartin | some of them is ready, just need to change the state | 08:38 |
| mrmartin | the major thing is this: Enable user interactions | 08:38 |
| sarob | it would be good to have anyone that is interested in the groups portal state just review the storyboard project | 08:38 |
| sarob | just like i use launchpad blueprints | 08:39 |
| sarob | mrmartin: what about the official user group process? | 08:39 |
| mrmartin | do we have any progress with that? which groups is official finally, what this exactly means | 08:40 |
| sarob | nope not from me | 08:40 |
| mrmartin | there was some discussion about marketing assets for official groups | 08:40 |
| sarob | mrmartin: i think that was part of the get stuff idea, was after an official group, i think | 08:41 |
| mrmartin | ok. | 08:41 |
| sarob | tfifield: you around? | 08:42 |
| sarob | id like to figure that out soonish | 08:43 |
| mrmartin | ok. | 08:43 |
| sarob | #action sarob ask foundation about official user group process, how to, and plans | 08:43 |
| sarob | i think that covers the etherpad | 08:44 |
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| mrmartin | ok, do we have any other open topic? | 08:44 |
| sarob | i have one more | 08:44 |
| sarob | #topic sfbay meetings | 08:45 |
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| sarob | i am starting monthly user group organizer/sponsor meetings for my local group | 08:45 |
| sarob | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sfbay-user-group | 08:45 |
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| mrmartin | cool | 08:46 |
| sarob | id really like to organize the meeting agenda and results around groups portal | 08:46 |
| sarob | this group cant use irc | 08:46 |
| sarob | but i will take notes and dump them into the wiki for now | 08:46 |
| sarob | id like to figure out a structure | 08:46 |
| sarob | and then encourage other user groups to follow | 08:47 |
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| sarob | could be part of the group officaliness | 08:47 |
| egallen | i have one more subject | 08:48 |
| mrmartin | I see for other groups, that they are doing events but maybe one in every three month or half year | 08:48 |
| sarob | egallen: lets finish this one first | 08:48 |
| egallen | OK | 08:48 |
| sarob | mrmartin: you think this would help them be more organized | 08:49 |
| sarob | mrmartin: do more events? | 08:49 |
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| mrmartin | so we could find a way to help them to grow their channels. | 08:49 |
| mrmartin | to acquire more attendees / members, and we need to launch this speaker list | 08:49 |
| mrmartin | to feed them with topics / speakers | 08:50 |
| sarob | mrmartin: agreed | 08:50 |
| sarob | okay lets move on so egallen can talk | 08:50 |
| sarob | #topic any other business | 08:50 |
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| sarob | egallen: the floor is yours | 08:50 |
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| kavit | sarob, meetings in India have averaged at two a month in different cities and we use a democratic model to decide times and dates. I could help with formalising the structure for the Official process | 08:50 |
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| sarob | kavit: any thing to help organize people is good | 08:51 |
| egallen | #topic mentor user group organizers | 08:51 |
| egallen | The new Tunisian OpenStack user group has organized is first meetup last Sunday 14/12 | 08:51 |
| mrmartin | nice | 08:52 |
| egallen | #link https://www.linkedin.com/groups/Tunisian-OpenStack-Users-Group-TOSUG-8220062 | 08:52 |
| sarob | egallen: cool | 08:52 |
| kavit | good stuff | 08:52 |
| mrmartin | egallen: Slovakia user group will be launched in 2015Q1 | 08:52 |
| kavit | egallen, can we do anything to help? | 08:52 |
| egallen | The leader is Soufiene Chraigui | 08:52 |
| egallen | This group want to organize a complete OpenStack day | 08:52 |
| egallen | and need speakers and perhaps sponsors | 08:52 |
| mrmartin | cool, in 2015? | 08:53 |
| egallen | Yes | 08:53 |
| sarob | egallen: sounds great | 08:53 |
| egallen | I discuss with him to first create the group | 08:53 |
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| egallen | workshops and meetups | 08:53 |
| egallen | federate people before a big event | 08:53 |
| mrmartin | the attendee number is the question always, you are right | 08:54 |
| kavit | egallen, maybe we can have a hangouts session with the guy to give him some pointers. Might also be a good idea to use meetup.com helps a lot with the logistics | 08:54 |
| mrmartin | egallen: enlist them in groups.json at https://github.com/openstack-infra/groups-static-pages | 08:54 |
| egallen | Yes I’ve plan a call with him before 1 week | 08:54 |
| sarob | kavit: meetup helps find new local people to join your group | 08:54 |
| kavit | sarob, correct | 08:54 |
| mrmartin | egallen, I was in London at their User Group two weeks ago | 08:55 |
| sarob | egallen: linkedin you will get alot a people outside your area | 08:55 |
| egallen | kavit: I make a Doodle for the hangout | 08:55 |
| kavit | also it will be good for them to put some ground work in for 6 to 8 months before thinking of a doing a OpenStack Day | 08:55 |
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| mrmartin | we already fixed the dates for some one-day event in 2015 | 08:55 |
| kavit | egallen, share with me, I will be happy to help | 08:56 |
| egallen | yes, he wanted to start with an OpenStack day and I has explained it was not good | 08:56 |
| egallen | That's it for me | 08:56 |
| sarob | egallen: share on the ambassador ml as well | 08:56 |
| egallen | OK | 08:56 |
| kavit | also at the risk of sounding out of touch with new fangled tech, what is a Doodle? :) | 08:56 |
| sarob | doodle polls for sched meet times | 08:57 |
| sarob | doodle.com | 08:57 |
| sarob | okay so next meet date time | 08:57 |
| kavit | got it thanks | 08:58 |
| sarob | 06 jan 08:00 GMT again just like today | 08:58 |
| mrmartin | thank you | 08:59 |
| kavit | thanks! | 08:59 |
| sarob | #action next meeting 06 jan 08:00 GMT #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ambassadors | 08:59 |
| egallen | bye | 08:59 |
| mrmartin | bye | 08:59 |
| sarob | cheers | 08:59 |
| sarob | thanks for joining! | 08:59 |
| sarob | #endmeeting | 08:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 16 08:59:48 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ambassadors/2014/ambassadors.2014-12-16-08.03.html | 08:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ambassadors/2014/ambassadors.2014-12-16-08.03.txt | 08:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ambassadors/2014/ambassadors.2014-12-16-08.03.log.html | 08:59 |
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| nati_ueno | hi | 14:59 |
| matrohon | hi | 14:59 |
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| gilliard | Is there supposed to be a nova-libvirt meeting? | 15:00 |
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| mhanif | Hi | 15:00 |
| pc_m | mhanif: hi | 15:00 |
| nati_ueno | I guess vpnaas meeting | 15:00 |
| pc_m | yes | 15:00 |
| Swami | mhanif: pc_m: nati_ueno : hi | 15:01 |
| nati_ueno | Swami: hi | 15:01 |
| pc_m | Swami: nati_ueno: hi | 15:01 |
| mhanif | Swami: Hi | 15:01 |
| tmorin | hi everyone | 15:01 |
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| pc_m | #startmeeting vpnaas | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 16 15:01:33 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is pc_m. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vpnaas)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vpnaas' | 15:01 |
| pc_m | #chair pc_m | 15:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: pc_m | 15:01 |
| pc_m | Hi folk! | 15:01 |
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| pc_m | #topic Announcements | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: vpnaas)" | 15:02 | |
| matrohon | hi pc_m : thanks for chairing | 15:02 |
| pc_m | VPNaaS repo is now up and working, UT are active. | 15:02 |
| pc_m | matrohon: Sure | 15:02 |
| nati_ueno | yay! | 15:03 |
| pc_m | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141532/ | 15:03 |
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| Swami | pc_m: when you say it is up and working, the legacy ipsec service is it fully functional | 15:03 |
| mhanif | Great! | 15:03 |
| pc_m | Swami: The unit tests are all activated and pass. | 15:03 |
| pc_m | Swami: I'm still trying to get my test bed running to check connections. | 15:04 |
| Swami | ok. I will try it out. | 15:04 |
| matrohon | pc_m : is there already a wiki page with an agenda? | 15:04 |
| matrohon | for this meeting? | 15:04 |
| pc_m | Swami: please do. Thanks! | 15:04 |
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| pc_m | matrohon: Yes... #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/VPNaaS | 15:05 |
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| pc_m | I'm working on tweak to UTs #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141932, but grenade tests are currently broken. | 15:05 |
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| pc_m | For L3 refactoring, the VPN agent is being split out. The main commit for the refactoring in Neutron is #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136549/ | 15:06 |
| pc_m | And the VPN handlers are in #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140918/ | 15:07 |
| pc_m | The L3 agent refactoring is on-going, so there will be some changes to the handlers and notification points. | 15:07 |
| pc_m | Plan is to try to reduce the number of handlers. | 15:08 |
| Swami | pc_m: what is this event_observer | 15:08 |
| pc_m | Swami: Sure. | 15:08 |
| pc_m | To decouple the agents from L3, we did the following... | 15:08 |
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| pc_m | Created a service object, which is a "listener" for L3 events. This object has handler methods that will take service specific actions for events. | 15:09 |
| SridharRamaswamy | Hi | 15:09 |
| pc_m | The service object will "register" with the event observer, which is just a set of observers. | 15:10 |
| pc_m | In the L3 agent, then, it will tell the event_observer to "notify" all listeners for the event that occurred. | 15:10 |
| pc_m | SridharRamaswamy: hi | 15:11 |
| Swami | pc_m: thanks for the explanation | 15:11 |
| Swami | that helps. | 15:11 |
| pc_m | Swami: your welcome. | 15:11 |
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| matrohon | will it be easy to register 3rd party service in the agent? | 15:11 |
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| Swami | It would be great if these things are captured in a wiki so that new developers can take advantage of the design. | 15:11 |
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| matrohon | Swami : +1 | 15:12 |
| vikram_ | Swami: +1 | 15:12 |
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| pc_m | Swami: Good idea. I can talk to carl, as there is a BP, but nothing more detailed. | 15:13 |
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| matrohon | pc_m : ^^ | 15:13 |
| pc_m | #action pc_m to talk to carl_baldwin about a Wiki for observer design. | 15:13 |
| Swami | pc_m: at least on the advanced services side, we should hence forth start documenting the new changes that are happening. | 15:14 |
| pc_m | matrohon: yes. So there is one service instance, so 3rd party can hook to same service. | 15:14 |
| SridharRamaswamy | Swami: +1, perhaps in doc/source/devref | 15:15 |
| pc_m | matrohon: As is today, the device driver is called in these handlers, and the 3rd party driver can take necessary actions. | 15:15 |
| pc_m | Swami: good point | 15:15 |
| matrohon | pc_m : by necessary action, you mean manipulate the qrouter accordingly | 15:16 |
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| pc_m | matrohon: It's the same as it is today. Today, L3 agent calls VPN agent method (e.g. _router_added) and the VPN agent tells device driver to do some action (e.g. sync) | 15:17 |
| pc_m | matrohon: We're moving that VPN agent logic out of the agent (which is part of L3 agent) and into a new object (VPNService), so they are decoupled. | 15:18 |
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| pc_m | Take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140918/ to see how things were moved. | 15:18 |
| matrohon | pc_m : thanks, this refactoring looks really nice | 15:18 |
| * pc_m hoping it is sort of clear | 15:19 | |
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| pc_m | Any other Qs on L3 refactoring as it applies to VPN? | 15:19 |
| pc_m | Other announcement was Edge VPN #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136929/ | 15:20 |
| pc_m | mhanif: Did you want to talk on that? | 15:20 |
| mhanif | pc_m: Thanks. Yes. | 15:20 |
| pc_m | floor is yours | 15:20 |
| mhanif | As some of you know, we been asked to incubate this outside of Neutron | 15:21 |
| mhanif | So, would like to understand the logistics | 15:21 |
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| mhanif | Should this be at the stackforge now? | 15:21 |
| mhanif | Do advanced services now follow similar model? | 15:22 |
| mhanif | after the split? | 15:22 |
| pc_m | mhanif: not yet. | 15:22 |
| pc_m | mhanif: They are splitting out vendor plugins in Neutron, but nothing about splitting services or vendor drivers for services (at this time). | 15:22 |
| mhanif | Ok. Got it. | 15:23 |
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| pc_m | mhanif: Do you recall who asked? We can follow up wih them. | 15:23 |
| pc_m | with | 15:23 |
| pc_m | Or better yet can I assign you an action? :) | 15:24 |
| mhanif | pc_m: It was Salvatore. It was just a customary comment which was given to those who were given -2 | 15:24 |
| mhanif | It went like: | 15:25 |
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| mhanif | This spec was given a -2 by the drivers team because the work proposed is of limited community appeal or lack of community consensus. The drivers team suggests that an extension project within the community ecosystem is a viable way forward. | 15:25 |
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| matrohon | mhanif, salv-orlando : I don't understand this neither | 15:25 |
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| mhanif | Hmmm. I see that L2gateway was given the same comment | 15:26 |
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| matrohon | does this means that we have to move forward on stackforge? incubator? advanced services? | 15:26 |
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| pc_m | matrohon: All good questions :) | 15:26 |
| mhanif | Not sure. I have asked him in a separate email but no response so far | 15:26 |
| pc_m | mhanif: Would you like to take it as an action item to pursue this with the Driver's team? | 15:27 |
| mhanif | pc_m: Sure, will do. | 15:27 |
| pc_m | mhanif: thanks | 15:27 |
| mhanif | pc_m: Thanks | 15:27 |
| pc_m | #action mhanif to check with drivers team on where Edge VPN should be developed. | 15:28 |
| pc_m | What about L2 gateway? | 15:28 |
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| mhanif | pc_m: It seems that they have put together a stackforge site to take it forward | 15:29 |
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| pc_m | mhanif: matrohon: Do either of you want to ask about that. | 15:29 |
| mhanif | Sure. I can pose the question during my interaction with the driver team | 15:30 |
| pc_m | #action mhanif to ask about development location for L2 Gateway. | 15:30 |
| pc_m | mhanif: Thanks! | 15:30 |
| mhanif | pc_m: You are welcome | 15:30 |
| matrohon | pc_m , mhanif : great thanks | 15:30 |
| pc_m | I think that hits announcements (whew!) | 15:30 |
| pc_m | #topic Bugs | 15:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: vpnaas)" | 15:30 | |
| pc_m | I don't see anything other than some adv services split items. | 15:31 |
| pc_m | If you have bugs, please rebase them to the new repo. | 15:31 |
| Swami | pc_m: there is one bug with respect to VPN and DVR | 15:31 |
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| Swami | I had a patch for it in the neutron branch | 15:31 |
| pc_m | Swami: Do you have link? | 15:31 |
| Swami | yes | 15:31 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127133/ | 15:32 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1356467 | 15:32 |
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| Swami | I need to refactor this patch based on the current L3 agent refactor. | 15:33 |
| Swami | If it is ready I will refactor it and post it again. | 15:33 |
| pc_m | Swami: Thanks. So looks like you can move it over to neutron-vpnass | 15:33 |
| Swami | pc_m: Yes will do it this week | 15:33 |
| pc_m | Swami: Thanks! | 15:33 |
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| pc_m | Anything else on bugs? | 15:34 |
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| pc_m | #topic Specs | 15:34 |
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| pc_m | Just FYI, there is a StrongSwan spec. #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101457/ | 15:35 |
| salv-orlando | matrohon: regarding those -2s on "edge vpns" that's because the neutron driver team believes these activities can be developed off tree without any oversight from the core team. So just do it - don't ask for anbody's approval | 15:35 |
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| matrohon | salv-orlando : thanks; so stackforge is the best place to move forward? | 15:36 |
| pc_m | salv-orlando: Thanks salv-orlando: By off-tree, do you mean stackforge? | 15:36 |
| SridharRamaswamy | on that subject looks l2 gateway stackforge is at #link https://github.com/stackforge/networking-l2gw | 15:37 |
| pc_m | SridharRamaswamy: thanks for the link. | 15:38 |
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| matrohon | stackforge sounds the best place for all of us who implements Edge vpn integration with different API. | 15:39 |
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| matrohon | since no consensus seems to emerge | 15:39 |
| pc_m | I guess it'll be good to understand the whole process for off-tree work and how to integrate it into Neutron/VPNaaS. | 15:40 |
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| pc_m | On the strongswan spec, they are giving an extension to work out the details. | 15:41 |
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| matrohon | I think l2-gw and GBP are good example of that | 15:41 |
| pc_m | Question: Should openstack support both StrongSwan *and* OpenSwan, or should StrongSwan replace OpenSwan (over time)? | 15:42 |
| * pc_m wondering about the advantages of having both over the effort to support both. | 15:42 | |
| pc_m | nati_ueno: any thoughts on ^^ | 15:42 |
| nati_ueno | now RHEL supports StrongSwan, right? | 15:42 |
| nati_ueno | if os, I'm +1 for replace it in future | 15:43 |
| pc_m | I think that is the case. | 15:43 |
| nati_ueno | however, we may have user for OpenSwan now | 15:43 |
| Swami | pc_m: good question, I think we need to support "strongswan" in addition to what we have now. | 15:43 |
| nati_ueno | so we need to have deplication frame | 15:43 |
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| pc_m | nati_ueno: Way back, was there some issue with StrongSwan (and hence the decision to go to OpenSwan)? | 15:43 |
| nati_ueno | RHEL wasn't support StrongSwan at that time | 15:44 |
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| Swami | pc_m: I don't there was any issue with strongswan it was because of the redhat support we moved to Openswan. | 15:44 |
| pc_m | I thought there was some tech issue on Ubuntu. | 15:44 |
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| pc_m | techical | 15:44 |
| pc_m | technical | 15:44 |
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| pc_m | Swami: Great. | 15:44 |
| Swami | pc_m: I don't recall any technical issue with strongswan. | 15:45 |
| nati_ueno | I'm not aware of StrongSwan issue | 15:45 |
| nati_ueno | I think StrongSwan is better according to usability of softwae | 15:45 |
| nati_ueno | documentation, etc | 15:45 |
| Swami | In fact strongswan has more new features then openswan | 15:45 |
| nati_ueno | right | 15:45 |
| pc_m | That's what I recall. I just vaguely remember some issue... namespaces or something. | 15:46 |
| Swami | guys I need to drop off I will catch up with the logs. | 15:46 |
| pc_m | Probably my fading memory. | 15:46 |
| Swami | bye | 15:46 |
| pc_m | :) | 15:46 |
| pc_m | Swami: bye | 15:46 |
| pc_m | #action Plan to support both StrongSwan and OpenSwan, with the latter deprecated over time (need to figure out when). | 15:46 |
| pc_m | Anything else on this item? | 15:46 |
| pc_m | #topic Open Discussion | 15:47 |
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| pc_m | Anyone have any items to discuss? | 15:47 |
| matrohon | is there any news on openssl support? | 15:48 |
| matrohon | nati_ueno : ^^ | 15:48 |
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| nati_ueno | I'll check Barbican status | 15:48 |
| * pc_m gald you pointed to nachi as I'm clueless | 15:48 | |
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| pc_m | #action nati_ueno to check Barbican status for openssl | 15:49 |
| matrohon | I'm also happy to see that vpnaas is leveraged by heat mluti-region | 15:49 |
| pc_m | matrohon: There was a commit for ssl-vpn, is there a blueprint for that? | 15:49 |
| nati_ueno | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/barbican/+spec/add-ssl-ca-support | 15:50 |
| pc_m | matrohon: Nice ^^ | 15:50 |
| nati_ueno | Still not there | 15:50 |
| matrohon | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/Blueprints/Multi_Region_Support_for_Heat#Goal | 15:50 |
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| pc_m | Thanks for the links guys! | 15:51 |
| pc_m | Anything else? | 15:51 |
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| pc_m | Thanks for joining in everyone! | 15:51 |
| pc_m | #endmeeting | 15:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 16 15:52:14 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:52 |
| nati_ueno | Thanks! bye! | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vpnaas/2014/vpnaas.2014-12-16-15.01.html | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vpnaas/2014/vpnaas.2014-12-16-15.01.txt | 15:52 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vpnaas/2014/vpnaas.2014-12-16-15.01.log.html | 15:52 |
| pc_m | bye! | 15:52 |
| matrohon | thanks pc_m | 15:52 |
| pc_m | matrohon: sure. thanks for helping out | 15:53 |
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| sarob | Morn | 16:59 |
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| zhipeng | morning | 17:01 |
| sarob | Morning | 17:01 |
| cloudtoa_ | Morning, indeed. | 17:01 |
| jasonsb_ | hallo | 17:01 |
| thinrichs | Hi all. | 17:01 |
| sarob | Cloudtoad you're here! | 17:01 |
| Networkn3rd | Morning! | 17:01 |
| cloudtoa_ | Yes, along with Ed and Andrew from Plexxi! | 17:01 |
| thinrichs | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 16 17:01:56 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thinrichs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| sarob | Nice | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 17:02 |
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| sarob | Welcome people | 17:02 |
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| arosen1 | hi | 17:02 |
| thinrichs | Before I forget, I'm thinking we should cancel the next 2 weeks of meetings, for the holidays. | 17:02 |
| arosen1 | +1 :) | 17:02 |
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| thinrichs | Any objections? | 17:02 |
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| sarob | Not here | 17:03 |
| sarob | Merry Christmas | 17:03 |
| cloudtoa_ | I object! Actually, I don't. I don't object. | 17:03 |
| thinrichs | I'll take that as a no. So no meetings the next 2 weeks. We'll resume Tuesday, Jan 6. | 17:03 |
| thinrichs | cloudtoa_: :) | 17:03 |
| sarob | Conflicted | 17:03 |
| thinrichs | Sorry—sarob are you considering objecting? | 17:04 |
| cloudtoa_ | We can meet up in #Congress for specific items with ppl... no? | 17:04 |
| cloudtoa_ | At any time.. | 17:04 |
| thinrichs | cloudtoa_: absolutely we can meet up in #Congress | 17:04 |
| thinrichs | This week people will probably generally be in #congress all day. | 17:05 |
| thinrichs | But I'm guessing the 2 weeks after that it'll be spotty at best. | 17:05 |
| thinrichs | But there's always the mailing list. I think most people at least check email over the holidays. | 17:05 |
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| thinrichs | Just remember to include [congress] in the subject line. | 17:06 |
| thinrichs | For those who might not know, we use the standard openstack developer's mailing list. | 17:06 |
| thinrichs | openstack-dev <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> | 17:06 |
| thinrichs | If you're not subscribed, please do so. Just google for it. | 17:06 |
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| thinrichs | And I'd recommend setting up filters since it's a high-volume list. | 17:07 |
| thinrichs | I think mine deliver anything with 'congress' or 'policy' in either subject or body to my inbox. | 17:07 |
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| thinrichs | The first milestone is upon us. Dec 18. | 17:08 |
| thinrichs | Tried to glance at which blueprints are due then, but that's harder than I expected. | 17:08 |
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| thinrichs | I know having multiple policy support (mine) is due Dec 18. I expect it should happen. Just adding finishing touches. | 17:09 |
| thinrichs | Anyone else signed up for Dec 18? | 17:09 |
| cloudtoa_ | Yes... I'll have the control-bus blueprint submitted today. | 17:09 |
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| thinrichs | cloudtoa_: great! | 17:09 |
| arosen1 | thinrichs they all show up in a list here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/congress unfortunately this page doesnt' say kilo-1,2,or 3 unless you click on the blueprints individually. | 17:10 |
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| thinrichs | That's a good reminder actually. | 17:10 |
| samta | Hi, i am able to get the count working like this: error(x,c):-p(x),count(x,c) | 17:10 |
| thinrichs | arosen1: just figured out: if you click on kilo it shows the blueprints with kilo-1, kilo-2, etc. | 17:10 |
| thinrichs | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/congress/kilo | 17:10 |
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| arosen1 | ah okay nice | 17:11 |
| thinrichs | samta: great! I see that the datalog-aggregates are assigned kilo-1. | 17:11 |
| thinrichs | Do you think that'll get done this week? | 17:11 |
| samta | Yeah..if looks good to u..will push my patch.. | 17:11 |
| thinrichs | Or should we move the deadline back to kil-2 | 17:11 |
| samta | yes this week | 17:11 |
| thinrichs | samta: I'll take a look, and we can discuss offline. | 17:12 |
| samta | If i am nt stuck with any test.. | 17:12 |
| samta | Sure | 17:12 |
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| thinrichs | arosen1: have you finished the refactor-datasource-driver-framework blueprint? | 17:12 |
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| thinrichs | That's the only other one slotted for kilo-1 | 17:12 |
| thinrichs | that isn't finished. | 17:13 |
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| arosen1 | thinrichs: i would say more or less though this was kinda of a blanket blueprint for anything i find along the way. | 17:13 |
| thinrichs | arosen1: okay—so when you've finished refactoring, can you mark that as Implemented? | 17:14 |
| arosen1 | We can probably set it as implemented though | 17:14 |
| arosen1 | k will do . | 17:14 |
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| thinrichs | cloudtoa_: so you're planning to push a revised spec for ... | 17:15 |
| thinrichs | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134686/ | 17:15 |
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| cloudtoa_ | Yes | 17:15 |
| thinrichs | pballand: think you'll have time to leave comments on that sometime this week? | 17:16 |
| pballand | yes | 17:16 |
| thinrichs | The more design we can get settled before the holidays the easier it will be for people to hit the ground running in the new year. | 17:16 |
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| thinrichs | While we're on the topic of specs, if you've volunteered for a spec it's good to at least leave comments on it to flush out the design. | 17:17 |
| cloudtoa_ | We will leave comments on framework related specs in the next week or so. | 17:18 |
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| thinrichs | I'm looking for a spec that has a round of comments so we can all see what's supposed to happen. | 17:18 |
| thinrichs | Try this. Just 2 comments. But you get the idea. | 17:19 |
| thinrichs | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134340/2/specs/kilo/publish-policy-results-to-bus.rst | 17:19 |
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| thinrichs | Let's go ahead and get through some status updates. | 17:19 |
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| thinrichs | Volunteers? | 17:20 |
| arosen1 | sure I can go first. | 17:20 |
| arosen1 | so I've continued working on the datasource refactoring mostly to refactor the sub tables out of the current neutron driver. | 17:21 |
| thinrichs | So if you've written policies using neutron's tables, you may need to go back and change those. | 17:22 |
| arosen1 | from this work we added a few new features to to the datasource driver base class to make things easier. Now for HDICTS a datasource driver can set in-list =True which will help unroll data that is in this format dict(list(dict()). Previously, one needed to create an extra table to unroll this data. | 17:22 |
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| cloudtoa_ | This is the way by you can specify how an arbitrary/nested data structure is converted to a table.. so peope don't have to write nested loops to do this? | 17:22 |
| thinrichs | We're hoping to quickly get to the point where the tables for datasource drivers don't change, but we're not there quite yet. | 17:22 |
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| thinrichs | cloudtoa_: right | 17:23 |
| arosen1 | thinrichs: unfortinately | 17:23 |
| arosen1 | cloudtoa_: yup exactly. | 17:23 |
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| arosen1 | here's the blueprint for it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140550/ and implemenation that has already merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140560/ | 17:24 |
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| thinrichs | One thing we realized this week that's especially cool about this line of work... | 17:25 |
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| arosen1 | The other thing is 'parent-key' columns can now specify their name. So previously the schema for their column would return their name as parent_key. Now they can specify their name to be something like port_id. This is done via setting 'parent-col-name: <name> . In addition, the parent-key can now be used from one subtable to another which wasn't possible before. | 17:25 |
| thinrichs | if people use this language alexsyip and arosen are working on to build their datasource driver | 17:25 |
| kudva | Hi | 17:25 |
| thinrichs | the schema for that driver is fixed and will not change. | 17:26 |
| arosen1 | bluepinrt: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140875/ implementation: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140855/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140876/ | 17:26 |
| thinrichs | There's no way for the datasource driver writer to make a mistake and for example sometimes leave out certain columns in the tables if the data coming back from the service doesn't have that column. | 17:26 |
| thinrichs | kudva: hi | 17:26 |
| cloudtoa_ | What do you mean "the schema?" We were thinking that it might actually be a "sub-schema" meaning for certain types of drivers, certain columns must be present... but additional columns may optionally be presented. | 17:26 |
| thinrichs | cloudtoa_: the schema = the columns present in each table. | 17:27 |
| arosen1 | cloudtoa_: i think that is still somewhat of an open question. | 17:27 |
| cloudtoa_ | So, for instance, drivers for different hypervisors have certain columns in common. | 17:27 |
| sarob_ | Thinrichs that's a big improvement | 17:27 |
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| arosen1 | cloudtoa_: if possible i think we'd want to move the differences into subtables | 17:27 |
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| cloudtoa_ | Ok... | 17:28 |
| thinrichs | The reason it's important to fix the schema (having optional columns is still somewhat open) is that we want to ensure that once someone writes policy, that policy is insulated from changes in the datasource driver to the extent possible. | 17:28 |
| cloudtoa_ | I'll buy that. | 17:28 |
| arosen1 | the neutron driver is a good example of this though since different plugins have different extensions | 17:28 |
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| arosen1 | so i'm working on figuring out how this should work soon | 17:28 |
| cloudtoa_ | So, are we sending row updates to the policy engine or are we sending whole tables and diffing them in the policy engine? | 17:29 |
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| thinrichs | cloudtoa_: datasource driver (base class) computes deltas. | 17:29 |
| cloudtoa_ | Sorry, that's a different topic... | 17:29 |
| thinrichs | policy engine receives deltas on the bus. | 17:29 |
| thinrichs | But I agree—a different topic. | 17:29 |
| thinrichs | Let's continue on with statuses. | 17:29 |
| arosen1 | that's it from me. | 17:30 |
| thinrichs | Anyone else have questions for the group or making changes the group needs to know about? | 17:30 |
| alexsyip | I’m working on performance improvements for the runtime. | 17:30 |
| alexsyip | Starting with indexing for table lookups. | 17:30 |
| thinrichs | alexsyip: that's some really important stuff, given our experiences running Congress in our own cloud. | 17:31 |
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| thinrichs | alexsyip: want to tell everyone what prompted this? | 17:32 |
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| alexsyip | Pierre wrote a policy for demo purposes in our vmware cloud | 17:32 |
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| alexsyip | and one of the queries would take 45min to complete. | 17:32 |
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| cloudtoa_ | Seems reasonable. You can get lunch during that time. | 17:32 |
| alexsyip | We believe it’s because one of the tables has about 10,000 entries, and the runtime iterates through each entry to lookup a single email addr. | 17:33 |
| alexsyip | So if we index the table, the lookup should be faster (not needing to iterate through all the entries). | 17:33 |
| cloudtoa_ | Are you using something like a bloom filter? | 17:33 |
| cloudtoa_ | Or thinking about it? | 17:34 |
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| alexsyip | I was planning to use a hash table. I’m not sure how i’d use a bloom filter. | 17:34 |
| cloudtoa_ | It's a hash table. Hash compute per entry, constant look up time. | 17:34 |
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| cloudtoa_ | Is this an optimization in the policy engine or in the table code in the drivers? Or is it both? | 17:36 |
| thinrichs | So if we turn the linear walk over 10,000 entries into a hash lookup, it seems we'll get a speedup of 4 orders of magnitude (since the linear walk is in the inner loop). | 17:36 |
| alexsyip | From what I remember a bloom filter only tells you if an item exists in a set. | 17:36 |
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| alexsyip | Let’s move this discussion to another room. | 17:36 |
| cloudtoa_ | ok.. I was just looking at a vswitch implementation that did mac-lookups with a bloom filter. | 17:36 |
| cloudtoa_ | ok | 17:37 |
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| thinrichs | I'm looking forward to having that indexing in place! | 17:37 |
| thinrichs | Let's hear from the people signed up for blueprints due in kilo2. | 17:37 |
| thinrichs | madhumohan: how are things going? | 17:37 |
| thinrichs | Maybe he stepped away. | 17:39 |
| thinrichs | zhipeng: how are things going? | 17:39 |
| zhipeng | still in the beginning phase | 17:39 |
| madhumohan | Got hold of antlrworks and now I am able to get the literals for execute[] call... | 17:39 |
| zhipeng | have some questions about spec | 17:39 |
| thinrichs | Sorry—zhipeng. Let's have madhumohan go. I'll look at the spec in the meantime. | 17:40 |
| zhipeng | that's alright :) | 17:40 |
| thinrichs | madhumohan: great! | 17:41 |
| madhumohan | thinrichs: formula generated seems fine with Modals in place of Literals.. Need to get started with runtime implementation. | 17:41 |
| thinrichs | Let me know if you want tips for antlrworks. There are a few things that aren't so intuitive, but once you get the hang of it, it speeds up development quite a bit. | 17:41 |
| thinrichs | madhumohan: sounds good. | 17:43 |
| madhumohan | yes... there are some tricky bits... I was not able to generate Python code... I ended up using the command line version.... | 17:43 |
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| thinrichs | Whatever works. | 17:44 |
| thinrichs | zhipeng: I've got a link to the spec. | 17:44 |
| thinrichs | #link https://github.com/stackforge/congress-specs/blob/master/specs/kilo/policy-engine-trigger.rst | 17:44 |
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| thinrichs | Do you want to ask questions of the group? | 17:45 |
| zhipeng | ya sorry our tempo is pretty slow, we will catch up during the Xmas days :P | 17:45 |
| thinrichs | It looks like the spec was merged. | 17:45 |
| zhipeng | yep, but still got one question | 17:45 |
| thinrichs | We can resubmit it so that we can discuss via comments in Gerrit, if that would be easier. | 17:45 |
| zhipeng | about iii | 17:45 |
| thinrichs | What about iii? | 17:46 |
| zhipeng | so for triggers, is it necessory to know what exactly should be done for the other engines | 17:47 |
| thinrichs | No. i, ii, iii were applications of triggers. | 17:47 |
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| thinrichs | I see that the spec is pretty light in terms of spelling out details. | 17:47 |
| zhipeng | ok, was confused | 17:47 |
| thinrichs | Seems like it needs to be resubmitted so that we can flush out details via Gerrit. | 17:48 |
| zhipeng | that would be a good idea | 17:48 |
| thinrichs | I'll volunteer to resubmit and try to spell things out more clearly. | 17:48 |
| zhipeng | thx man | 17:48 |
| thinrichs | zhipeng: I'll try to do that today. Think you'll have time this week for a couple of rounds of comments. | 17:48 |
| thinrichs | ? | 17:48 |
| zhipeng | definitely | 17:48 |
| thinrichs | I'll add you as a reviewer, so you should get an email whenever something changes. | 17:49 |
| zhipeng | i think i'm already one | 17:49 |
| thinrichs | Great. | 17:49 |
| zhipeng | :) | 17:49 |
| thinrichs | Anyone else assigned a blueprint that they have questions about? | 17:50 |
| thinrichs | (Time check: 10 min left) | 17:50 |
| thinrichs | I understand we have a couple of new people today. | 17:50 |
| thinrichs | If this is your first time at the meeting, could you say a few words about yourself? | 17:51 |
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| cloudtoa_ | Networkn3rd: ping | 17:52 |
| Networkn3rd | Sure! - My name is Ed Henry, I work at Plexxi with Derick and Andrew whom should also be on the call. | 17:52 |
| regana | I'm new...my name is Andrew Regan. Just switched jobs from EMC --> Plexxi. Working with cloudtoad on DSE. | 17:52 |
| Networkn3rd | Call...Ha, meeting* | 17:52 |
| regana | and Ed | 17:52 |
| thinrichs | Networkn3rd: :) | 17:52 |
| arosen1 | cool, well welcome :) | 17:53 |
| thinrichs | Welcome! Glad to have you. | 17:53 |
| Networkn3rd | Thanks :) | 17:53 |
| samta | Hi. this is samta from Montavista..One query..during holidays patch review will happen? | 17:54 |
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| thinrichs | samta: I'd imagine there will be many fewer reviews done over the holidays. I wouldn't plan on getting anything merged. | 17:54 |
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| arosen1 | We'll try though I expect things to slow down a little. | 17:54 |
| thinrichs | (It could always happen—I just wouldn't plan on it.) | 17:54 |
| thinrichs | That reminds me. | 17:54 |
| thinrichs | We need more people to review code. | 17:55 |
| sarob_ | indeed | 17:55 |
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| thinrichs | I think I saw stackalytics say that over 90% of reviews are done by VMware folks. | 17:55 |
| thinrichs | We could always institute a rule that before you get a review, you have to do a review for someone else. | 17:55 |
| thinrichs | But I'd rather not do that. | 17:55 |
| sarob | reviews should be a big part of how we communicate as a team | 17:56 |
| thinrichs | I'd suggest finding patches in a piece of the code you're familiar with and trying to understand the code and what the change is doing. | 17:56 |
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| thinrichs | Style suggestions are a fine way to start... | 17:56 |
| thinrichs | but I'd really like us to have at least one deeper kind of comment for each review, e.g. questioning the design/algorithm/etc. | 17:57 |
| thinrichs | 3 minutes left. | 17:57 |
| thinrichs | Open discussion. | 17:57 |
| thinrichs | #topic open discussion | 17:57 |
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| sarob | it would be great if each person worked towards a review a day | 17:58 |
| sarob | that would make a huge difference | 17:58 |
| thinrichs | Sorry we didn't get status updates from everyone. | 17:59 |
| thinrichs | Seems there's enough people and work that we don't have enough time. | 17:59 |
| thinrichs | A good problem to have, for sure. :) | 17:59 |
| sarob | :0 | 17:59 |
| jwy | just want to quickly mention that some changes were merged in congress-specs to make unit test errors clearer | 18:00 |
| jwy | please run tox there also before submitting specs for review to make sure all the sections are included, etc. | 18:00 |
| arosen1 | jwy: yea we need to figure out why jenkins isn't checking those correctly. | 18:00 |
| thinrichs | Good to know. | 18:00 |
| thinrichs | We're out of time. | 18:00 |
| sarob | cheers! | 18:00 |
| arosen1 | later | 18:00 |
| thinrichs | Thanks all! I'll be in #congress for 30 min if anyone wants to continue the discussion. | 18:01 |
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| thinrichs | And there's always the ML. | 18:01 |
| thinrichs | #endmeeting | 18:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 16 18:01:11 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2014/congressteammeeting.2014-12-16-17.01.html | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2014/congressteammeeting.2014-12-16-17.01.txt | 18:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2014/congressteammeeting.2014-12-16-17.01.log.html | 18:01 |
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