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sarob | morn | 17:00 |
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thinrichs | Hi all | 17:01 |
thinrichs | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 17:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 10 17:01:49 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thinrichs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 17:01 |
thinrichs | Let's start out with status updates. | 17:02 |
thinrichs | #topic status | 17:02 |
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thinrichs | cloudtoa_: want to start? How's the dse-control-bus work going? | 17:02 |
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arosen | Hi | 17:03 |
sarob | morn | 17:03 |
arosen | ing] | 17:03 |
sarob | whatever ;) | 17:03 |
thinrichs | arosen: we're starting with statuses and waiting a minute for cloudtoa_ to pipe up. | 17:04 |
thinrichs | Maybe cloudtoa_ stepped away. | 17:04 |
arosen | sounds good :) | 17:04 |
thinrichs | sarob: want to give a status report? | 17:04 |
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sarob | sure | 17:05 |
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sarob | the sprint seemed to a moderate success | 17:06 |
sarob | not having people in the same physical space | 17:06 |
sarob | doesnt a strong sprint make | 17:06 |
sarob | i do see more new faces over the last week | 17:06 |
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sarob | as a team we are looking good | 17:07 |
sarob | even though our reviews are bit heavy on a few people | 17:07 |
sarob | we have 7 companies contributing code | 17:08 |
sarob | actually 8 including huawei | 17:08 |
sarob | we had some discussing around cuting 2014.2.2 congress | 17:09 |
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sarob | do you want to discuss that now? | 17:09 |
thinrichs | It's great to see so many different companies contributing! | 17:09 |
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thinrichs | sarob: sure. | 17:09 |
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arosen | I think pushing a tag for 2014.2.2 would be a good idea as a milestone. | 17:10 |
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sarob | plus launchpad kilo2 milestone wrap | 17:10 |
thinrichs | Sounds good to me as well. | 17:10 |
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thinrichs | sarob, arosen: anything the group needs to know or do to prepare? | 17:11 |
sarob | i dont think so | 17:12 |
sarob | other than 2014.2.2 shouldnt be too buggy | 17:12 |
arosen | Yea we'll just need to decide when we want to push that tag. | 17:12 |
* arosen i believe. | 17:12 | |
* sarob believes too | 17:13 | |
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arosen | I think we could push that today before all my changes merge and break everything ;) | 17:13 |
sarob | well there you go | 17:13 |
sarob | perfect timing | 17:13 |
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thinrichs | Do we have any volunteers to manually test the code at the tip of master and make sure nothing's obviously broken? | 17:13 |
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sarob | ill take a pass at it | 17:14 |
arosen | we have our CI doing some limited testing on the code so we are probably okay unless someone wants to test soming specific | 17:14 |
sarob | should be a few others toooo | 17:14 |
thinrichs | sarob: thanks! | 17:14 |
arosen | cool | 17:14 |
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thinrichs | It seems we have a light crew at the meeting today. | 17:15 |
thinrichs | Maybe we should send a note out to the ML to see if anyone can help out testing. | 17:15 |
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thinrichs | Let's pick a commit ID so everyone is testing the same thing. | 17:15 |
sarob | thinrichs that would be a good idea | 17:16 |
* sarob has a fire burning | 17:16 | |
thinrichs | arosen: want to pick out the commit ID you think looks best? You've been pushing a bunch lately. | 17:16 |
arosen | lets say current top of master: 47991c608d01721827ecaf92cf8ce05efc569f27 | 17:17 |
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thinrichs | Looks good to me. | 17:19 |
thinrichs | sarob: Mind driving this and letting the rest of us know what to do and when to do it? | 17:19 |
sarob | shirely | 17:19 |
thinrichs | Thanks! | 17:20 |
thinrichs | sarob: anything else to report? | 17:20 |
sarob | noope | 17:20 |
thinrichs | arosen: want to tell us what you've been up to? | 17:20 |
sarob | well other than | 17:20 |
sarob | summit talks | 17:20 |
thinrichs | arosen: hold up a sec | 17:20 |
sarob | we can discuss that next week | 17:20 |
sarob | as talks get cleaned up | 17:20 |
thinrichs | The voting begins next week? | 17:20 |
sarob | hmm, prob | 17:21 |
sarob | arosen you member the voting delay | 17:21 |
sarob | i think its a week | 17:21 |
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arosen | yea i think a week | 17:22 |
thinrichs | Sounds good—let's discuss summit talks next week. | 17:22 |
thinrichs | arosen: want to do a status update? | 17:22 |
arosen | I've been working on a new api to allow us to see what datasource drivers congress has installed and then allow users to dynamically create and delete datasources | 17:22 |
arosen | Here's a quick preview of the cli showing the new api calls: paste.openstack.org/show/170257/ | 17:23 |
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arosen | The patches are all up on review that implement this. I'm hoping that we'll be able to merge these soon since some of them are pretty large. | 17:23 |
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arosen | once these patches merge the next thing i think i'm going to bite off is to enable our API to be muli tenant | 17:24 |
arosen | these initially patches lay a lot of ground work for that thoguh. | 17:24 |
arosen | that's it unless someone wants to discuss. | 17:24 |
thinrichs | Spinning up/down new datasource drivers at runtime is great! | 17:24 |
thinrichs | I'm a bit scared about multi-tenancy, mainly because of scale. | 17:25 |
thinrichs | But overall it's good to have it there. | 17:26 |
arosen | I think it's something we'll have to bite off eventually and I'd rather get that built into the api sooner than later :) | 17:26 |
thinrichs | It brings up a fundamental question though. | 17:26 |
thinrichs | If Alice says X is a violation, and Bob says X is not a violation, is X a violation or not? | 17:26 |
arosen | I would say it's a violation to Alice but not to Bob. | 17:27 |
alexsyip | Can it be a violation to one user and not another ? | 17:27 |
thinrichs | But at the end of the day, either Charlie can spin up a VM or he can't. | 17:28 |
thinrichs | People don't get to control their own policy. | 17:28 |
arosen | each user would have their own rules configured though. I think in the general case they wouldn't be connecting to the same thing on the backend. | 17:28 |
arosen | and if they do they would be connecting with different accounts. | 17:28 |
thinrichs | That is, one person's policy will influence another person's ability to do things. | 17:28 |
jwy | how is it resolved today if the admin user creates two conflicting policies? | 17:28 |
thinrichs | Otherwise there's no point to having policy. | 17:28 |
alexsyip | Why would Alice be worried about Charlie’s configuration ? | 17:29 |
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thinrichs | jwy: you're right that we run into the same kind of thing with multiple policies. | 17:29 |
arosen | Say i want to say this. All instances must have a security group that does not allow port 22. | 17:29 |
alexsyip | And why would Charlie care if Alice doesn’t like his VM ? | 17:29 |
arosen | Congress would scope that to just things it sees in the datasources I have configured. | 17:29 |
thinrichs | But we've always been able to say that only the admin writes policies and so it's up to them to do the proper integration. | 17:30 |
thinrichs | alexsyip: because Charlie could be Alice's manager. | 17:30 |
thinrichs | alexsyip: or vice-versa | 17:30 |
arosen | thinrichs: i think it's the same case. The tenant is able to only write policies over datasources that he has configured. | 17:30 |
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thinrichs | Standard policy: prod and test apps need to be isolated (network, compute, storage). | 17:31 |
arosen | if the cloud provider admin in congress has a special policy that will trump yours automatically and yuo won't know. | 17:31 |
thinrichs | That policy impacts *everyone*'s ability to deploy apps. | 17:31 |
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thinrichs | What if each user provides policies for how they want their VMs to be deployed? | 17:32 |
thinrichs | Shouldn't the datacenter attempt to accommodate all of them? | 17:32 |
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arosen | thinrichs: that's fine as long as they don't conflict with a datacenter wide policy. | 17:32 |
thinrichs | Charlie might say he doesn't want his VMs deployed on the same host as anyone from test. | 17:33 |
thinrichs | arosen: but then what happens if Charlie's and Alice's policies conflict (and neither is an admin)? | 17:33 |
alexsyip | So one user can write policy that congress will enforce on another user. | 17:33 |
alexsyip | We make that relationship explicit. | 17:33 |
arosen | I don't think we would allow a tenant to write a policy that could affect scheduling like that. | 17:33 |
thinrichs | Good—we're getting to the point that we see multiple users have different policies that interact in some way. | 17:34 |
arosen | the reason why is because | 17:34 |
arosen | only an admin account that connects to the datasource can do that. | 17:34 |
arosen | but you are right this is an interesting example | 17:34 |
arosen | in some systems this could be the case. | 17:34 |
arosen | tricky yea.. | 17:34 |
arosen | interesting. | 17:34 |
thinrichs | After all, everyone is running VMs/apps in the same datacenter. They absolutely interact with each other, and policy will interact as well. | 17:34 |
arosen | well I think it depends on the scope of the policy. I think in general this isn't something that could occur in openstack deployments. | 17:35 |
thinrichs | My assumption has always been that we want people to tell us the policy they *actually* care about. | 17:36 |
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thinrichs | We build technology that helps implement/deal with those policies. | 17:36 |
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thinrichs | At any rate, I think at this point it's clear there's something more to think about here. | 17:37 |
arosen | yea i understand, i think we should follow up this converstation after the meeting. | 17:37 |
arosen | we can talk about it in person since i don't think anyone else is here right now. | 17:37 |
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thinrichs | Shall we continue with status updates? | 17:37 |
arosen | sure | 17:37 |
thinrichs | jwy: how's the Horizon UI going? | 17:37 |
jwy | slow progress… i'll need to change the milestone to kilo-3 | 17:38 |
thinrichs | OK. Anything we can do to help? | 17:39 |
jwy | not at the moment. wasn't happy with what i had initially, so trying out different things | 17:39 |
jwy | once i have something i feel better about, i'll ask for some folks to try it out | 17:39 |
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thinrichs | Sounds good. I'd say we definitely want to hit kilo3, even if we're not 100% happy with it. | 17:40 |
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thinrichs | Just let us know when you want us to try it out. | 17:40 |
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thinrichs | alexsyip: what have you been up to? | 17:41 |
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alexsyip | I’ve been working on a blog post about the performance improvements we’ve done. | 17:42 |
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alexsyip | And also I’m investigating how to allow datasources to send data updates directly to congress through a congress api. | 17:42 |
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thinrichs | Both of those are really important for some of the deployment environments we're targeting. | 17:43 |
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thinrichs | Anyone else with a status update? | 17:44 |
thinrichs | Okay, let's open it up for discussion. | 17:44 |
thinrichs | #topic open discussion | 17:44 |
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arosen | alexsyip: interesting, yea i think that's going to be a good one to figure out. | 17:44 |
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arosen | i remember theree was a blueprint i think tim wrote up about that. | 17:45 |
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arosen | Though there was some questions about the design | 17:45 |
arosen | also another blueprint tim wrote up about using oslo.db | 17:45 |
arosen | do you have a plan on how you want to do this? | 17:45 |
alexsyip | arosen: Let’s sync up about that today. I spoke with pete a little yesterday about the overall api design which was helpful. | 17:45 |
arosen | sounds good | 17:45 |
rajdeepd | hi thinrichs | 17:46 |
rajdeepd | i had a small update | 17:47 |
thinrichs | rajdeepd: hi! Go for it. | 17:47 |
rajdeepd | submitted the CL for data source status table in horizon UI | 17:47 |
rajdeepd | gone through a couple of reviews with jwy and arosen | 17:48 |
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thinrichs | jwy, arosen: want to take another look at rajdeepd's change? | 17:49 |
arosen | sure | 17:49 |
jwy1 | yep, was going to do it today | 17:49 |
thinrichs | rajdeepd: anything else? | 17:49 |
rajdeepd | if jwy1 needs help on UI i can help once this review is done | 17:49 |
rajdeepd | thats all from my side | 17:50 |
jwy1 | rajdeepd: thanks for the offer, i'll let you know | 17:50 |
rajdeepd | ok jwy1 | 17:50 |
thinrichs | Anything else? | 17:51 |
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thinrichs | OK. Let's end the meeting a bit early. | 17:52 |
thinrichs | Thanks all! | 17:52 |
thinrichs | #endmeeting | 17:52 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 10 17:52:24 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:52 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2015/congressteammeeting.2015-02-10-17.01.html | 17:52 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2015/congressteammeeting.2015-02-10-17.01.txt | 17:52 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2015/congressteammeeting.2015-02-10-17.01.log.html | 17:52 |
arosen | later! | 17:52 |
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briancurtin | #startmeeting python-openstacksdk | 19:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 10 19:00:19 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is briancurtin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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briancurtin | #topic Roll Call - say hi if you're here for the SDK meeting | 19:01 |
briancurtin | Brian Curtin | 19:01 |
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terrylhowe | Terry Howe, HP | 19:01 |
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briancurtin | i wrote up a small agenda at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/PythonOpenStackSDK#Agenda_for_2015-02-10_1900_UTC | 19:02 |
briancurtin | i know everett won't be here, ian might, not sure about anyone else, so i guess let's go and maybe more will come in | 19:03 |
briancurtin | #topic auth plugins work! | 19:03 |
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redrobot | o/ | 19:03 |
briancurtin | I already had this working in tree, and it was as simple as just taking it out, but as you probably guessed, auth plugins simply work | 19:03 |
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briancurtin | hey redrobot - i don't recognize your handle | 19:04 |
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redrobot | hi briancurtin, I'm Douglas Mendizábal, Racker and PTL for Barbican | 19:04 |
briancurtin | ah cool, welcome (i think i even saw you earlier today) | 19:04 |
* sigmavirus24 is late | 19:05 | |
* sigmavirus24 apologizes | 19:05 | |
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briancurtin | apology denied | 19:05 |
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briancurtin | anyway, https://github.com/briancurtin/rackspace-sdk-plugin works - it's not on PyPI and that's just a temporary repo, but installing the SDK and then installing that will work perfectly fine. i'm going to write up a simple rackspace-only service and see how that works, and then write up a user guide on how to implement custom plugins. probably won't get to | 19:06 |
briancurtin | that immediately, but soon | 19:06 |
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terrylhowe | I’m surprise you have an auth_url | 19:06 |
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briancurtin | terrylhowe: that's something i just noticed as i was about to copy/paste an example...i need to get handle more directly. right now i do "connection.Connection(preference=pref, auth_plugin="rackspace", auth_url="https://identity.api.rackspacecloud.com/v2.0/", user_name="curtin", api_key="key")" and i can work with the existing object_store stuff | 19:07 |
terrylhowe | cool | 19:08 |
briancurtin | i'll just move that auth_url inside and then it's good, i think. assuming that's all we need, in the process of writing up the user guide i will put a cookie-cutter plugin somewhere so anyone can get started for their provider | 19:09 |
briancurtin | not a whole lot else going on directly with this right now - it's more a part of a greater thing with supporting the CDN service and an internal task i have, but it was cool that it just worked so easil | 19:10 |
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briancurtin | #topic split up of cinder review | 19:11 |
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briancurtin | so at least terry saw this, but i put a pretty large review of cinder out there to follow up on what i started going into that mid-cycle meetup. i'm going to split it up probably as follows, which is a guideline we should probably follow going forward: one change for all Resources, then one change for each resource's addition to the connection level, then | 19:12 |
briancurtin | docs | 19:12 |
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briancurtin | i prefer docs alongside changes so it becomes a fluid part of the process, but for this cinder one i actually need help with that along with it depending on some compute work to be truly useful in the docs | 19:13 |
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briancurtin | within that change there were a few comments from terry that i'll address with changes in those subsequent review | 19:14 |
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briancurtin | the topic of naming came up in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150979/5/openstack/volume/v2/_proxy.py and i would just like to make a general comment (which is in there, but i'll summarize here): i think right now this is the time to experiment with APIs and try different names and things and see how this all works. nothing is locked down yet, and we | 19:16 |
briancurtin | haven't really built enough on top of this to know how we or other users are going to want to use it | 19:16 |
redrobot | briancurtin interesting... that's kinda why I joined the meeting today... | 19:17 |
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redrobot | briancurtin not cinder, but renaming things in general | 19:18 |
terrylhowe | the keystore stuff has a very generic proxy redrobot | 19:20 |
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terrylhowe | or were you thinking about another part of the sdk | 19:20 |
briancurtin | redrobot: i'd love to get other perspectives involved in building out a nice high-level interface to work with this stuff. right now there are basically two approaches or conventions. eventually we'll converge on one after things have seen more use | 19:20 |
briancurtin | that does mean we're going to break anyone who may be an early adopter, but i think that's expected, or it will be made to be an expectation. we do have some releases on PyPI but they're not very advertised. as we get more completed and can build nice demos, i think we'll be more public about the releases to show them off | 19:23 |
redrobot | cool... I'm still spinning up on the client work | 19:23 |
redrobot | I've been spending a lot of time on our client, and was curious about what (if any) work had been done here for barbican | 19:23 |
terrylhowe | I was in Paris at the barbican presentation and added it to the sdk | 19:24 |
redrobot | terrylhowe nice! | 19:24 |
briancurtin | redrobot: i dont know how discoverable this at the moment, but our current docs are at http://python-openstacksdk.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ | 19:24 |
terrylhowe | https://github.com/stackforge/python-openstacksdk/tree/master/openstack/keystore | 19:25 |
redrobot | So one thing we did a while back was rebrand to "key-manager" instead of "keystore" | 19:26 |
redrobot | I was wondering if it would be feasible to rename the module in the client? | 19:26 |
briancurtin | right now none of the keystore things show up in docs though, but i'll add some docstrings and add them to the resource docs. would be nice to work together on a high-level (proxy) interface for that, would be helpful in coming up with some docs | 19:26 |
briancurtin | redrobot: we'd have to name it key_manager, but yeah it can change | 19:27 |
redrobot | I would love to help out with that... we have our hackathon mid-cycle coming up next week, and we'll be talking about clients a lot... | 19:27 |
briancurtin | redrobot: where at? | 19:27 |
redrobot | briancurtin It'll be in Austin at the Capital Factory | 19:28 |
briancurtin | redrobot: mind if i crash the party? i did the same for the cinder meetup at IBM in austin | 19:28 |
redrobot | briancurtin the more the merrier! :) You can get all the details here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/BarbicanKiloSprint | 19:30 |
briancurtin | cool, i'll be there. at the cinder one they just gave me the floor for a bit to introduce the project and then it was around an hour discussion on what we do, how we do it, how it'll fit into cinder, who wanted to work on it, stuff like that. their mid-cycle was more planning than hacking, but one guy wrote up some cinder resources like an hour later | 19:31 |
briancurtin | anyway, back to the topic since we're halfway through | 19:32 |
sigmavirus24 | Yeah, the glance midcycle sounded a lot like planning/demos instead of hacking | 19:32 |
briancurtin | i'll follow up with probably 4-5 smaller reviews on cinder and go from there | 19:32 |
briancurtin | #topic Resource.list consistency update | 19:32 |
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terrylhowe | I marked one of my patches related to this WIP | 19:33 |
terrylhowe | not sure when I’ll get back to it | 19:33 |
briancurtin | back when britt pointed out that something wasn't responding to pagination because it was disabled (neutron?), i went off and hacked up Resource.list to be a catch-all list call. it ended up doing way too much and is not really a usable solution in real life. it's fine against devstack with tiny responses, but doing a double request for 10,000 containers is | 19:34 |
briancurtin | not acceptable | 19:34 |
briancurtin | terrylhowe's Resource.page actually solves this, or starts to | 19:34 |
briancurtin | individual resources that return lists, but not paginated ones, should probably override list and use page directly | 19:34 |
briancurtin | they would essentially look like the get_types method at the top of this module: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150979/5/openstack/volume/v2/_proxy.py | 19:35 |
terrylhowe | oh we sent that on through, I just have a task card to review resources that override list | 19:35 |
briancurtin | terrylhowe: at first i didn't really get Resource.page except for being an organizational thing, but when it clicked that it will solve that non-paginated but still a list calls...i fell in love | 19:36 |
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terrylhowe | yeh, I think that would be a good model what you have there | 19:38 |
briancurtin | so that's all on that, just wanted to note that i think we can avoid that crazy catch-all Resource.list | 19:39 |
briancurtin | other than that stuff, i'm probably going to kick off some smaller resource changes to build out some sample apps for an internal talk i have in a few weeks | 19:40 |
briancurtin | and then terry and i submitted a proposal for teh summit to talk about building applications on the SDK | 19:40 |
briancurtin | anything else going on? | 19:41 |
terrylhowe | sort of back to the naming thing, I’m not necessarily opposed to volume.types over volume.list_types, the only concern I can think of is if there is some name conflict | 19:42 |
terrylhowe | we get some very generic resource names like object and type sometimes | 19:42 |
terrylhowe | is there anything to be concerned about there? | 19:42 |
stevelle | that is a hurdle throughout openstack | 19:43 |
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terrylhowe | I see brian has a long comment there I hadn’t seen before in the volume patch. I’ll have to look at that | 19:44 |
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briancurtin | yeah, object and type are kind of hard to work with, but the majority of names are far away from those and i'd rather code to the majority | 19:44 |
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briancurtin | terrylhowe: yeah that comment is pretty long...i have sort of strong opinions on naming. some way will win in the end, but i'd like to stick with the names in there at least for now | 19:45 |
briancurtin | terrylhowe: and im going to be doing some work on compute soon, where i'll probably just leave those names as-is and see how they feel | 19:46 |
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terrylhowe | redrobot: https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1420461 | 19:48 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1420461 in OpenStack SDK "keystore renamed key-manager" [Undecided,New] | 19:48 |
terrylhowe | should we have a ticket to rename all list_ proxy methods? | 19:49 |
briancurtin | terrylhowe: i dont think we should rename them yet. i would just leave everything as-is, work with it, build stuff, and find out what really is best. i could very well be wrong that the methods should just be a plural version of the resource type, e.g., volumes, containers, etc | 19:50 |
terrylhowe | k | 19:50 |
briancurtin | anything else to add? | 19:53 |
redrobot | terrylhowe thanks! I'll try to get a patch up in the next few days | 19:53 |
terrylhowe | cool, thanks | 19:54 |
terrylhowe | nothing else here | 19:54 |
briancurtin | i guess that's it. thanks everyone! | 19:54 |
briancurtin | #endmeeting | 19:56 |
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openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2015/python_openstacksdk.2015-02-10-19.00.html | 19:56 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2015/python_openstacksdk.2015-02-10-19.00.txt | 19:56 |
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