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| trinaths | Hi | 06:30 |
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| vnyyad | #startmeeting taas | 06:30 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 2 06:30:55 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is vnyyad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 06:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 06:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: taas)" | 06:30 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'taas' | 06:30 |
| soichi | Hi | 06:31 |
| vnyyad | hi | 06:31 |
| Kazu | Hello | 06:31 |
| trinaths | hi | 06:32 |
| vnyyad | #topic finish usecase and API discussion | 06:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "finish usecase and API discussion (Meeting topic: taas)" | 06:32 | |
| reedip | Hi | 06:32 |
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| reedip | I raised a query related to the API discussion | 06:34 |
| reedip | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-November/080449.html | 06:34 |
| reedip | If there is time today ( or if it can be taken in the current discussion for API), then please let me know | 06:35 |
| anil_rao | reedip: I looked at your email. Sorry for not being able to respond sooner. | 06:35 |
| anil_rao | We can discuss this as our first item. | 06:35 |
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| anil_rao | reedip: In your first point you are suggesting removing 'taas' from the endpoint string? | 06:36 |
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| reedip | anil_rao : yes , if it is possible | 06:37 |
| reedip | I checked the neutron-client repo , as all the end points are mentioned there and found that most ( if not all) extensions of neutron are directly refferred from v2_0 | 06:38 |
| anil_rao | I am okay if doing so makes us more compatible with existing convention? What do others have to say? | 06:38 |
| vnyyad | anil, reedip: i guess we can take a look at it to keep parity with other services | 06:39 |
| vnyyad | any comments from others? | 06:39 |
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| anil_rao | reedi: for the 2nd point in your email, I agree that we can change source_port to port. Do you want to go with 'port' or 'port_id? | 06:42 |
| reedip | I would prefer port, because in all the other neutron CLIs, we use port itself. | 06:42 |
| reedip | Also it allows us to have Port ID or Port Name | 06:42 |
| reedip | so if a user has named a port | 06:42 |
| anil_rao | reedip: okay | 06:42 |
| reedip | then he can use the port name, instead of him listing the port and then copying the ID ( which in itself is a manual task for now) | 06:43 |
| anil_rao | Sure | 06:43 |
| vnyyad | reedip: is the uniqueness of the port name ensured? | 06:44 |
| reedip | vnyyad : No, but the way neutronclient ( and in the future, I hope Openstackclient) searches is | 06:44 |
| reedip | a) whatever is passed is first searched by ID | 06:44 |
| reedip | if ID is found then use that | 06:44 |
| reedip | if not then | 06:44 |
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| reedip | b) search the same by name | 06:45 |
| reedip | if number of elements found by name = 0 , then there is no element( in our case no port) | 06:45 |
| reedip | if no. of element is 1, then the element( port in our case) would be forwarded in the API call | 06:45 |
| reedip | if no. of element > 1, then it would state that there are multiple instances, and result in an error. This is the common function observed in all the neutron CLIs | 06:46 |
| vnyyad | reedip: thanx for the clarification | 06:47 |
| reedip | okay, so we agree that source_port and port_id can be changed to 'port' | 06:47 |
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| anil_rao | Sounds good to me. | 06:48 |
| reedip | and for moving the elements under v2_0/taas to v2_0, a further discussion may be necessary | 06:48 |
| soichi | +1 | 06:49 |
| reedip | anil_rao, vnyyad : Okay then, I will move the source_port and port_id to port ( filing a bug for the same , for tracking purpose) | 06:49 |
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| vnyyad | reedip: +1 | 06:49 |
| anil_rao | +1 | 06:49 |
| Kazu | reedip: agree | 06:49 |
| reedip | okay thanks :) | 06:50 |
| anil_rao | Let's move to the next topic. -- subproject spec | 06:51 |
| vnyyad | #topic subproject spec | 06:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "subproject spec (Meeting topic: taas)" | 06:51 | |
| anil_rao | Do folks feel that we need a new spec? | 06:52 |
| reedip | anil_rao : Yes, I think Fawad also wanted this to be taken up . | 06:53 |
| reedip | having a spec would allow for easier tracking of changes and would make TaaS an entity of the Neutron Governance | 06:54 |
| reedip | ( IMO) | 06:55 |
| anil_rao | We have a spec. I was wondering what folks think about reactivating it or creating a new one. | 06:55 |
| reedip | Reactivating would avoid extra rework (??) | 06:56 |
| anil_rao | Since it is quiet here, let's discuss this topic on the mailing list, as responses to Fawad's thread. | 06:57 |
| reedip | Yup, other members of Neutron Family can also chip in | 06:57 |
| reedip | at the ML | 06:57 |
| anil_rao | OK. | 06:58 |
| anil_rao | Moving to next topic? | 06:59 |
| vnyyad | #topic creating dashboard repository for neutron subprojects | 06:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "creating dashboard repository for neutron subprojects (Meeting topic: taas)" | 06:59 | |
| soichi | yes, i added this item. | 07:00 |
| soichi | amotoki proposed several possible options about dashboard repository for neutron subprojects. | 07:00 |
| soichi | i think it is a good idea to have a dashboard repository for taas. | 07:00 |
| soichi | it makes easy to submit and share souce code. | 07:00 |
| soichi | currently, i guess (c) is the best choice. | 07:01 |
| soichi | if you agree, would you kindly reply +1 for amotoki's proposal? | 07:01 |
| reedip | soichi: link? | 07:01 |
| reedip | or is it in the agenda? | 07:01 |
| soichi | yes, link is in the agenda | 07:02 |
| soichi | link: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-November/080441.html | 07:02 |
| reedip | Oh ok , thanks :) | 07:02 |
| amotoki | I just raised options for repos of dashboard implemetations. neutron community folks prefer to having dashboard repo in each repo. | 07:02 |
| amotoki | I haven't sent a reply mail, but I think there are some challenges which need to be addressed by neturon subprojects. | 07:03 |
| reedip | amotoki: option(d) ? | 07:03 |
| amotoki | option(c) | 07:03 |
| reedip | Ohk | 07:03 |
| anil_rao | I am not clear about the difference between (c) and (d) | 07:03 |
| amotoki | horizon community does not have an experience of sharing dashboard and server project in a same repo. | 07:04 |
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| amotoki | perhaps it can, but we need to explore a common way on how to organize dashboard directory in its own neutorn subproject repo. | 07:04 |
| amotoki | option (c) means networking-foo/dashboard | 07:06 |
| amotoki | option (d) means networking-foo-dashboard repository | 07:06 |
| amotoki | anil_rao: is it clear now? | 07:06 |
| anil_rao | amotoki: Yes, Thanks. | 07:06 |
| yamamoto | soichi: is your horizon support currently implemented as option (a) ? | 07:07 |
| soichi | yes | 07:07 |
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| anil_rao | What to the Horizon folks recommend? How are other Neutron subprojects dealing with this? | 07:08 |
| amotoki | I finally get time to write a reply mail. you will see it soon. I could not find time last week at all due to my family affairs. | 07:08 |
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| anil_rao | amotoki: Thanks | 07:09 |
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| amotoki | anil_rao: not decided. I wil request david horizon ptl to follow it up again. | 07:10 |
| anil_rao | soichi: Any thoughts on the few items I mentioned in my review of your proposed UI for TaaS? | 07:12 |
| soichi | I agree your comments. all TaaS API options should be supported. | 07:13 |
| anil_rao | Let's move to the next topic | 07:14 |
| soichi | Yes | 07:14 |
| soichi | link: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-November/080761.html | 07:14 |
| anil_rao | #topic port security setting | 07:14 |
| vnyyad | #topic port security setting | 07:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "port security setting (Meeting topic: taas)" | 07:15 | |
| soichi | this is just an announcement that i submitted a discussion about port security setting to the mailing list. | 07:15 |
| soichi | i would appreciate if you reply your comments. | 07:15 |
| anil_rao | soichi: Will do? Here is a quick question though | 07:16 |
| soichi | yes | 07:16 |
| anil_rao | soichi: Are you seeing this when you have the monitoring VM attached to br-tap (instead of br-int)? | 07:16 |
| soichi | No. monitoring VM is connected to br_int. The original implementation of TaaS. | 07:17 |
| vnyyad | anil: we could try to reproduce this | 07:18 |
| anil_rao | Sure. | 07:18 |
| soichi | I will wait your reply. | 07:19 |
| vnyyad | any other topic to be discussed | 07:21 |
| yamamoto | i have a question | 07:22 |
| anil_rao | yamamoto: Yes | 07:22 |
| yamamoto | is there any specific reasons why mac learning is disabled by our agent? ie. do you see any problems if learning is unconditionally disabled in the hybrid interface driver? | 07:22 |
| anil_rao | We disabled mac learning in the Linux bridge (that connects the OVS port on br-int to the VM's vNIC) otherwise, mirrored traffic could never make it to the monitoring VM. | 07:24 |
| anil_rao | If there is a cleaner way to overcome this issue, I am all for it. | 07:24 |
| yamamoto | yes, i understand why it should be disabled. my question is why taas agent should do it. | 07:25 |
| anil_rao | We don't need to do it from the TaaS agent if there is another way to achieve the same. | 07:25 |
| yamamoto | put it in the other way, do you know anything relying on the mac learning in the per-vif bridge? | 07:26 |
| yamamoto | i want to make it unconditional. | 07:26 |
| anil_rao | From what I see, mac learning avoids the need to flood the bridge. Since there are only two ports in that per-vNIC bridge this flooding is not a large overhead but to some it might be. | 07:27 |
| vnyyad | anil_rao: i guess we did discuss this | 07:28 |
| vnyyad | in a 2 port bridge how much different is flooding from learning in terms of performance | 07:28 |
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| anil_rao | There is one unused port (which is the internal port of the Linux bridge). So flooding will end up sending copies of the packet both to the VM's vNIC as well as to the bridge's internal port. | 07:29 |
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| vnyyad | can we take this in the mailing list | 07:30 |
| vnyyad | i guess we ran out of time | 07:30 |
| yamamoto | my impression is we should either a) make it uncodintional or b) make taas agent restore the setting | 07:30 |
| vnyyad | yamamoto: +1 taas agent should restore the setting | 07:31 |
| Kazu | agree | 07:31 |
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| anil_rao | +1 on (b). | 07:31 |
| anil_rao | We are out of time. :) | 07:31 |
| vnyyad | see you all next week and/or in the meeting list | 07:32 |
| soichi | thank you, bye | 07:32 |
| vnyyad | bye | 07:32 |
| yamamoto | bye | 07:32 |
| anil_rao | bye | 07:32 |
| Kazu | bye | 07:32 |
| vnyyad | #endmeeting | 07:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 07:32 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 2 07:32:46 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 07:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2015/taas.2015-12-02-06.30.html | 07:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2015/taas.2015-12-02-06.30.txt | 07:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2015/taas.2015-12-02-06.30.log.html | 07:32 |
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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 09:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 2 09:01:10 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 09:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 09:01 |
| ifat_afek | hi everyone | 09:01 |
| oetrog | hi | 09:01 |
| eyalb | hi | 09:01 |
| umargolin | hi | 09:01 |
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| amir_gur | Hello | 09:04 |
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| ^Gal^ | hello | 09:05 |
| elishar | hi all | 09:05 |
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| ifat_afek | Let’s start. Our agenda: | 09:06 |
| ifat_afek | * Current status and progress from last week | 09:06 |
| ifat_afek | * Review action items | 09:06 |
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| ifat_afek | * Next steps | 09:06 |
| ifat_afek | * Open Discussion | 09:06 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Current status and progress from last week | 09:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current status and progress from last week (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 09:07 | |
| nadav_yakar | shalom | 09:07 |
| ifat_afek | The blueprints reviews are still open, as we are hoping to get reviews from Doctor, Ceilometer and Monasca teams. | 09:07 |
| ifat_afek | The implementation of several blueprints is in progress. | 09:07 |
| ifat_afek | I assigned series goals and priorities to most of the blueprints. The synchronizer blueprints still need to be prioritized. | 09:07 |
| ifat_afek | Regarding manage-ceilometer-alarms blueprint, we thought again about the design. Vitrage needs many alarms that are currently not part of AODH: deduced alarms, Nagios alarms, galglia alarms, zabbix alarms… we are discussing it with AODH guys, to see if and how we can trigger our alarms in AODH. | 09:08 |
| ifat_afek | #action ifat continue discussion our alarms with AODH | 09:08 |
| ifat_afek | nadav, can you update regarding the progress you had with the synchronizer? | 09:08 |
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| nadav_yakar | while not working on bugs this week | 09:09 |
| emalin | hi | 09:09 |
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| nadav_yakar | we have done some research work | 09:10 |
| nadav_yakar | started working on the plugin FW and snapshot against nova service | 09:10 |
| nadav_yakar | I have splitted our blueprints and stories | 09:11 |
| nadav_yakar | these are still to be assigned to people, once we finish working on other issues | 09:12 |
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| ifat_afek | and what the priorities, do you know which can be done for mitaka-2? | 09:12 |
| nadav_yakar | assigned to people and prioritized | 09:12 |
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| ayah | #action we are about to create a new project for puppet-vitrage any input for that we will be welcome | 09:13 |
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| ayah | do we need to create a blueprint for puppet-vitrage as well? | 09:14 |
| Marinalo | People Hi | 09:14 |
| ifat_afek | not sure... I can check it | 09:14 |
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| ifat_afek | #action ifat check if there should be a blueprint for vitrage puppet | 09:14 |
| ifat_afek | ^Gal^, can you update on ceilometer alarms UI blueprint that is handled by sanjana? Any progress there? | 09:14 |
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| ^Gal^ | ifat_afek: sure | 09:15 |
| umargolin | Ifat - so we have scope for Vitrage phase I - what we intend to push by Mitaka2? | 09:15 |
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| ^Gal^ | there hasn't been a commit yet for the ceilometer alarms UI blueprint | 09:15 |
| umargolin | do | 09:15 |
| ifat_afek | ok, when do you think it would be a good time to ask again? | 09:16 |
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| ^Gal^ | As I understand we have a great thorough view of such blueprint, so we should start write some ideas on the whiteboard | 09:17 |
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| ifat_afek | agree | 09:17 |
| ifat_afek | I looked at the spec of this blueprint, and it doesn't 100% fit our needs | 09:18 |
| ifat_afek | it also relates to the AODH alarm definition API, which we are investigating now | 09:18 |
| ^Gal^ | sounds good, let's ping the guy again | 09:18 |
| ifat_afek | ok | 09:18 |
| ifat_afek | action item on you ^Gal^? | 09:19 |
| ^Gal^ | yep | 09:19 |
| ^Gal^ | to address our ideas in the blueprint's whiteboard | 09:19 |
| ^Gal^ | and | 09:19 |
| ifat_afek | #action ^Gal^ check again the status of ceilometer UI blueprint, and comment on the whiteboard | 09:20 |
| ^Gal^ | send the guy mail to start a conversation on the solutions | 09:20 |
| ifat_afek | thanks ^Gal^ | 09:20 |
| ^Gal^ | ifat_afek: great thanks | 09:20 |
| ifat_afek | umargolin, regarding your question: for mitaka-2 we plan to support get-topology for nova hosts and instances | 09:20 |
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| ifat_afek | meaning: support vitrage graph and networkx, synchronizer for nova, api+cli+horizon UI for get topology | 09:21 |
| umargolin | what about for the final Mitaka - is it going to be functional? | 09:21 |
| elishar | that is the goal. | 09:21 |
| umargolin | Functional I mean - will it be usable for other people? | 09:21 |
| ifat_afek | we sure hope so | 09:22 |
| umargolin | Great | 09:22 |
| ifat_afek | what about the UI progress? | 09:23 |
| aheller | Hi :) | 09:23 |
| Ohad | Ifat: get topology for mitaka2 includes also updates (deleted vm, etc)? | 09:23 |
| aheller | We had meeting regard the representation of the Topology, Storage, Network in the UI. | 09:24 |
| aheller | We will get next week some mock screens from the UX team | 09:24 |
| ^Gal^ | aheller: awesome! | 09:25 |
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| aheller | More than that, we've added a d3 framework sample (sunburst) in the Horizon | 09:25 |
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| ifat_afek | cool! | 09:26 |
| ^Gal^ | very! | 09:26 |
| aheller | And we are still fixing the structure of the UI by the rules of "John Papa" guide | 09:26 |
| aheller | ^Gal^: Thanks :) | 09:27 |
| aheller | More updates, next week... | 09:27 |
| ifat_afek | thanks aheller | 09:27 |
| nadav_yakar | Ohad: per your query whether the availability of updates for Mitaka2 - as per vitrage graph current needs, there is no need for updates. Nevertheless, we most probably be done with it by mitaka 2 date | 09:28 |
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| ifat_afek | elishar, can you update on the mock? | 09:30 |
| Ohad | Ok | 09:30 |
| elishar | sure. | 09:30 |
| elishar | I am at the final stages of pushing the code for the mock synchronizer data. I've gotten some initial feedback, which I will integrate in the next phase. | 09:31 |
| ifat_afek | that's great | 09:31 |
| elishar | The current mock can generate random synchronizer events, using the agreed format. Next steps will include data that has a "logical flow" | 09:32 |
| elishar | that's it. | 09:32 |
| ifat_afek | great, thanks | 09:32 |
| ifat_afek | eyalb, can you updated on get-topology-api and vitrage-cli? | 09:32 |
| eyalb | yes sure | 09:33 |
| eyalb | continued to work on both of them | 09:33 |
| eyalb | implimented an topology-show command | 09:33 |
| eyalb | at the moment it returns a mock json graph | 09:33 |
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| eyalb | I don't use authentication yet plan to do it later | 09:34 |
| eyalb | thats it | 09:34 |
| ifat_afek | great | 09:34 |
| aheller | eyalb: Do you have the option to change the result of the JSON ? | 09:34 |
| ifat_afek | thanks | 09:34 |
| eyalb | yes it reads a mock file | 09:34 |
| eyalb | so you can edit the file | 09:35 |
| eyalb | I plan to add a query filter for the topology show | 09:36 |
| eyalb | so you can filter edges and vertices | 09:36 |
| aheller | eyalb: Great, thanks ! | 09:37 |
| ayah | eyalb: when we have the puppet-vitrage project how do we interact together? | 09:37 |
| eyalb | we need to figure out :-) | 09:39 |
| ifat_afek | Thanks. Let’s move on. | 09:39 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Review action items | 09:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review action items (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 09:40 | |
| ifat_afek | 1. ifat_afek need to add a blueprint for monasca | 09:40 |
| ifat_afek | I did not find the time to do it. Can someone write this blueprint? | 09:40 |
| eyalb | I will do it | 09:40 |
| ifat_afek | thanks | 09:40 |
| ifat_afek | #action eyalb write a blueprint for monasca integration | 09:41 |
| ifat_afek | * lhartal To add Nova Transformer blueprint | 09:41 |
| ifat_afek | I know that she is working on it today | 09:41 |
| ifat_afek | * nadav split the synchronizer blueprint and check what can be done for mitaka-2 | 09:42 |
| nadav_yakar | done | 09:42 |
| ifat_afek | * ifat_afek finish the discussions with AODH regarding our integration with them | 09:42 |
| ifat_afek | already updated about it | 09:42 |
| ifat_afek | * finish review of the blueprints | 09:42 |
| ifat_afek | Not done, we are still waiting for external reviews. | 09:42 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Next Steps | 09:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Next Steps (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 09:43 | |
| ifat_afek | we need to start thinking about the tempest tests | 09:44 |
| Marinalo | I agree. monday? | 09:45 |
| ifat_afek | Monday is good | 09:45 |
| ifat_afek | #action start discussing the tempest tests | 09:45 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Open Discussion | 09:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 09:45 | |
| ifat_afek | anything else you want to discuss? | 09:46 |
| ifat_afek | so I guess we are done for today | 09:47 |
| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 09:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 09:47 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 2 09:47:19 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2015/vitrage.2015-12-02-09.01.html | 09:47 |
| eyalb | bye | 09:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2015/vitrage.2015-12-02-09.01.txt | 09:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2015/vitrage.2015-12-02-09.01.log.html | 09:47 |
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| masco | hello all | 12:05 |
| tsufiev | guys, it seems that this meeting was cancelled | 12:06 |
| tsufiev | see info at #openstack-horizon | 12:06 |
| masco | is it | 12:07 |
| tsufiev | I am not certain, but the main David's concern was that this timeslot hadn't enough attendance | 12:08 |
| masco | tsufiev, thanks | 12:08 |
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| masco | i was waiting for everyone to join ;( | 12:08 |
| tsufiev | please ask robcreswell or mrunge for more details | 12:08 |
| masco | tsufiev, ok. | 12:09 |
| tsufiev | masco, sorry, should have sent an announcement | 12:09 |
| masco | tsufiev, no problem. you have informed at the right time :) | 12:10 |
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| alexpilotti | #startmeeting hyper-v | 13:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 2 13:02:19 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alexpilotti. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 13:02 |
| alexpilotti | morning folks! | 13:02 |
| claudiub | o/ | 13:02 |
| atuvenie | \o | 13:02 |
| lpetrut | o/ | 13:02 |
| abalutoiu | o/ | 13:02 |
| atuvenie | o/ | 13:02 |
| atuvenie | #openstack-hyperv | 13:03 |
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| itoader | o/ | 13:03 |
| alexpilotti | sagar_nikam: hello, anybody else joining from HP? | 13:04 |
| sagar_nikam | Hi | 13:04 |
| sagar_nikam | i think there is some confusion on the channel name | 13:04 |
| sagar_nikam | we can start | 13:04 |
| sagar_nikam | i will mail others to join here | 13:04 |
| alexpilotti | sagar_nikam: where are they joining? | 13:04 |
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| alexpilotti | I wrote on #openstack-hyper-v that it's here | 13:05 |
| sagar_nikam | i think we never sent the channel name, so they might have gone to openstack-hyper-v | 13:05 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:05 |
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| primeministerp | hey guys | 13:06 |
| primeministerp | Channel name should be upstream in the meeting info | 13:07 |
| alexpilotti | the patch for the meeting merged and we updated the info in wiki | 13:07 |
| primeministerp | *nod* | 13:07 |
| alexpilotti | sagar_nikam: I dont see anybody else on #openstack-hyper-v meeting, should we start? | 13:07 |
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| primeministerp | alexpilotti: do we have quorum yet? | 13:07 |
| sagar_nikam | alexpilotti: yes we can start | 13:08 |
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| alexpilotti | #topic FC development status | 13:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "FC development status (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:09 | |
| alexpilotti | lpetrut: as discussed we started with the pass-through scenario, leaving the vsan for later | 13:10 |
| alexpilotti | things are progressing well, except one blocker | 13:10 |
| sagar_nikam | yes, that is implemented in the same way in libvirt | 13:10 |
| alexpilotti | sagar_nikam: exactly | 13:10 |
| sagar_nikam | what is the blocker ? | 13:11 |
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| alexpilotti | we need to map the FC mounted volume on the host to an entry in the MSVM_DiskDrive instance to be assigned to the VM's setting data host resource | 13:11 |
| alexpilotti | in other wods, we need to get from the FC host config the local disk number | 13:12 |
| lpetrut | basically, we get the volumes attached to the host, but I need to find a reliable way to identify them, to know which one to attach | 13:12 |
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| sagar_nikam | cinder provides wwpn? | 13:13 |
| lpetrut | yes | 13:13 |
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| alexpilotti | in the iSCSI case we obtain that from the storage API and from there we map it to a MSVM_DiskDrive, but there's no direct equivalent for FC | 13:13 |
| sagar_nikam | cant we use that... since that is unique and what needs to be attaced | 13:13 |
| sagar_nikam | ok, this is more to do with WMI or MI | 13:13 |
| sagar_nikam | and not nova and cinder | 13:14 |
| lpetrut | yes, I can get the FC mapping for a specific wwpn, but that won't include information such as disk number or path | 13:14 |
| alexpilotti | sagar_nikam: it's only a Windows API thing (WMI, WIn32, etc) | 13:14 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:14 |
| lpetrut | for the record, this is what the connection info provided by Cinder looks like: http://paste.openstack.org/show/480624/ | 13:14 |
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| sagar_nikam | target_lun=2, is that not the disk id ? | 13:15 |
| lpetrut | no | 13:16 |
| lpetrut | we need the one seen by the OS | 13:16 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:16 |
| lpetrut | you can have multiple disks with the same Lun, based on how those are being exported | 13:17 |
| sagar_nikam | RDM class ? | 13:19 |
| sagar_nikam | WMI RDM class | 13:19 |
| alexpilotti | in short, we're going to spend an extra day on this and then escalate to the storage team in MSFT if an API cant be found | 13:19 |
| sagar_nikam | this is raw disk, so we may need to use the RDM class | 13:19 |
| alexpilotti | the rest of the code is already done, except live migration and resize | 13:19 |
| sagar_nikam | however the MSFT server team is the right team to answer | 13:20 |
| sagar_nikam | ok, one question on live migration | 13:20 |
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| sagar_nikam | wll the volume be attached after the live migration is done ? | 13:20 |
| alexpilotti | sagar_nikam: we'll do like for iSCSI | 13:20 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: we should probably just engage the storage team now | 13:20 |
| sagar_nikam | there should be a detach from source host ad attach on destination host | 13:21 |
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| alexpilotti | there's a pre_live_migration call on the target's nova driver instance | 13:21 |
| alexpilotti | that takes care of ensuring that the storage resources are in place | 13:21 |
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| sagar_nikam | FC may be slightly different, since the FC volume needs to be presented to the new host | 13:22 |
| sagar_nikam | ok, then it is fine | 13:22 |
| sagar_nikam | makes sense | 13:22 |
| alexpilotti | sicne we're at it, we also check the local disk number as it can differ from the source | 13:22 |
| sagar_nikam | agree | 13:23 |
| alexpilotti | e.g. LUN 3 on SAN x can be attached to local disk 1 on source and local disk 3 on target | 13:23 |
| alexpilotti | so we ensure that we dont attach somebody else's disk after live migration :-D | 13:23 |
| alexpilotti | the same BTW happens on host restart, as didk IDs can be reshuffled depending on attach order | 13:24 |
| sagar_nikam | that care needs to be taken for all volumes that is attached to the instance | 13:24 |
| sagar_nikam | since a instance can have multiple FC volumes attached | 13:24 |
| alexpilotti | yeah, that's not a FC specific thing and it's already in place for iSCSI | 13:24 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:24 |
| alexpilotti | SMB3 does not need that as the host resource is the target SMB path, which clearly doesnt change | 13:25 |
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| alexpilotti | only passthrough has this limitation | 13:25 |
| sagar_nikam | for the tenant user, how does the volume become available, he has to use disk mgmt to mount it ? | 13:25 |
| sagar_nikam | like the way we do in iSCSI | 13:25 |
| alexpilotti | it's the same: the guest OS sees a new disk and decides what to do with it | 13:26 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:26 |
| alexpilotti | there's a setting on WIndows, for example, that determines if the host needs to be attached | 13:26 |
| alexpilotti | then the guest needs to format it, etc | 13:27 |
| alexpilotti | same on linux | 13:27 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:27 |
| alexpilotti | you'll see it as /dev/sdb /dev/sdc, etc | 13:27 |
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| alexpilotti | any other questions on the FC topic? | 13:29 |
| sagar_nikam | no | 13:29 |
| alexpilotti | cool | 13:29 |
| sagar_nikam | actually one more | 13:29 |
| alexpilotti | #topic PyMI | 13:29 |
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| sagar_nikam | missed it | 13:29 |
| alexpilotti | d'oh, just cahnged topic, please go on :) | 13:29 |
| sagar_nikam | i hope the cluster driver implemented as part of this BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-cluster | 13:30 |
| sagar_nikam | will also support FC volumes | 13:30 |
| alexpilotti | that's transparent | 13:30 |
| sagar_nikam | since MS Cluster can move the VM | 13:31 |
| alexpilotti | iSCSI, FC and other volume types implement a set of decoupled interfaces | 13:31 |
| sagar_nikam | to another host, out of band from nova | 13:31 |
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| sagar_nikam | wanted to be sure that will also get implemented | 13:31 |
| sagar_nikam | just a note, for us to be sure it works there as well | 13:32 |
| alexpilotti | sure | 13:32 |
| sagar_nikam | we can now move to next topic | 13:32 |
| sagar_nikam | thanks | 13:32 |
| alexpilotti | every feature that works on standalone will work on cluster | 13:32 |
| alexpilotti | as a general rule | 13:32 |
| sagar_nikam | ok cool... that's nice | 13:32 |
| alexpilotti | ok, moving to current topic (pyMI) | 13:33 |
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| alexpilotti | Added event support as well | 13:33 |
| alexpilotti | including async API calls | 13:33 |
| alexpilotti | this means that the project is feature complete for replacing the WMI module | 13:33 |
| alexpilotti | we're now running it at scale | 13:34 |
| sagar_nikam | ok good | 13:34 |
| alexpilotti | checking for stability issues | 13:34 |
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| alexpilotti | did you manage to get somebody in your team to do tests on it? | 13:34 |
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| alexpilotti | sagar_nikam: ^ | 13:35 |
| sagar_nikam | for using pyMI, requirements.txt needs to be updated, when is it planned ? | 13:35 |
| alexpilotti | even on older OpenStack releases (Juno, etc) | 13:35 |
| sagar_nikam | not yet, hopefully soon, we have some questions, will mail you | 13:35 |
| alexpilotti | sagar_nikam: Nova does not have wmi in the requirements | 13:36 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:36 |
| sagar_nikam | pywin32 ? | 13:36 |
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| alexpilotti | it's a windows specific one that we never added as the platform specific support in pip is very recent | 13:36 |
| alexpilotti | same for pywin32 | 13:37 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:37 |
| alexpilotti | we'll probably drop pywin32 | 13:37 |
| sagar_nikam | so we need to document that users need to use pyMI instead of pywin32 | 13:37 |
| alexpilotti | as we need it only for wmi | 13:37 |
| alexpilotti | yep, as soon as a stable release is available! | 13:37 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:38 |
| alexpilotti | sagar_nikam: they are in global requirements: | 13:40 |
| alexpilotti | https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.txt#L185 | 13:40 |
| alexpilotti | and #link https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.txt#L222 | 13:41 |
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| sagar_nikam | ok, makes sense since we pyMI for cinder, neutron etc | 13:41 |
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| alexpilotti | we'll update all of them anyway as soon as we go "live" with PyMI | 13:42 |
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| lpetrut | Cinder for example will not use PyMI at all, using os-win instead | 13:42 |
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| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:43 |
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| alexpilotti | anything elase on this topic? | 13:46 |
| sagar_nikam | no | 13:46 |
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| alexpilotti | ok, I have no additional topic for now, as this was a short week (Thanksgiving in the US last Thu and Romanian national holidays thin Mon and Tue) | 13:49 |
| alexpilotti | #topic open discussion | 13:49 |
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| sagar_nikam | topic from me | 13:50 |
| alexpilotti | cool | 13:50 |
| sagar_nikam | if possible, can we have higher priority for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-cluster | 13:50 |
| sagar_nikam | lot of users asking support for MSCluster | 13:50 |
| sagar_nikam | hopefully we can get it implemented in Mitaka | 13:51 |
| alexpilotti | sagar_nikam: it was implemented already in Liberty on compute-hyperv | 13:51 |
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| alexpilotti | there's no chance IMO to have it merged in Nova IMO | 13:51 |
| sagar_nikam | ok, we can try to get in nova | 13:51 |
| sagar_nikam | oh ... why ? | 13:51 |
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| alexpilotti | as in, it's a huge set of patches | 13:52 |
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| sagar_nikam | the BP is approved | 13:52 |
| sagar_nikam | i saw only one patch | 13:52 |
| sagar_nikam | but that needed more work | 13:52 |
| sagar_nikam | for volume support as well as nova DB updates | 13:52 |
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| alexpilotti | we can realistically merge it, given Nova's prioritization for drivers, only if it becomes the main topic for the release | 13:53 |
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| alexpilotti | and we focus only on that | 13:53 |
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| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:53 |
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| sagar_nikam | i think that patch also did not support CSV | 13:54 |
| sagar_nikam | or atleast stats update for CSV | 13:54 |
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| sagar_nikam | need to confirm, but a quick review of code, i did not find it | 13:54 |
| alexpilotti | the main issue back then was that on a clustered volume (CSV or S2D), you have a single large volume | 13:54 |
| alexpilotti | so all Nova nodes report the same amount of free space | 13:54 |
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| alexpilotti | last time we talked about this with Nova at the last mid cycle, jpipes volunteered to add support for a unified cross-nodes resource | 13:56 |
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| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:56 |
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| sagar_nikam | any patches on that available ? | 13:56 |
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| alexpilotti | no, we need to ping him | 13:57 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:57 |
| alexpilotti | afaik there was no progress on this | 13:57 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:57 |
| alexpilotti | claudiub will try to ping him today | 13:57 |
| sagar_nikam | that would be good | 13:57 |
| sagar_nikam | lot of customer demand for MSCluster | 13:57 |
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| sagar_nikam | hopefully this or next release we can get it implemented | 13:58 |
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| sagar_nikam | it is almost the time to end the meeting, if you have any patches up for review let me know | 13:59 |
| sagar_nikam | we can review it | 13:59 |
| alexpilotti | sagar_nikam: yes, as usual if your customers want it in the next year or so they need to switch to compute-hyperv | 13:59 |
| alexpilotti | at the current rate of Nova drivers patch merge | 13:59 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 14:00 |
| alexpilotti | guys, time's up! | 14:00 |
| alexpilotti | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
| sagar_nikam | thank you | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 2 14:00:31 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2015/hyper_v.2015-12-02-13.02.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2015/hyper_v.2015-12-02-13.02.txt | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2015/hyper_v.2015-12-02-13.02.log.html | 14:00 |
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| rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 2 15:00:04 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | o/ | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
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| rhochmuth | roll call | 15:00 |
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| rbak | o/ | 15:00 |
| witek | hi | 15:00 |
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| bklei | o/ | 15:00 |
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| rhochmuth | hello everyone | 15:01 |
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| bklei | hola | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | looks like we have a good turn out | 15:01 |
| shinya_kwbt | o/ | 15:01 |
| bmotz | o/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | Let's start at the top of the agenda and work down | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 15:01 |
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| openstack | rhochmuth: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | Agenda for Wednesday December 02, 2015 (15:00 UTC) | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 1. Monasca Python Client integration in requirements (fabiog) | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | Â Â Â 1.1. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251674/ | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 2. Healtcheck for python API (monasca-api, monasca-log-api) | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 2.1. oslo.middleware - it is fine ? | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 2.2. Figuring out best solution to add healtchecks | 15:02 |
| fabiog | o/ | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 3. yandex.ru | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 3.1 https://review.openstack.org/252305 | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 3.2 https://review.openstack.org/252302 | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 3.3 https://review.openstack.org/252315 | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 4. Status update on api caching? | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 5. InfluxDB plugin (use of service vs. component dimension, naming of metrics) (jobrs) | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196167/ | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Monasca Python Client integration in requirements (fabiog) | 15:02 |
| jobrs | hi, sorry for last minute addition to agenda | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Monasca Python Client integration in requirements (fabiog) (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:02 | |
| fabiog | nothing major here | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | OK, fabiog | 15:02 |
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| fabiog | just posted the change to integrate our client with the greater openstack | 15:02 |
| fabiog | please support the change | 15:02 |
| fabiog | and I think we need infra to approve it | 15:02 |
| bklei | link? | 15:02 |
| witek | it seems the last meeting is not finished | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | no, i started it twice by accident | 15:03 |
| fabiog | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251674/ | 15:03 |
| witek | ok | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | thanks fabiog | 15:03 |
| fabiog | rhochmuth: please +1 it and see if any of the HP infra guys can give some love | 15:03 |
| tgraichen | o/ | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | i'll review and +1 … | 15:04 |
| fabiog | rhochmuth: it is blocking the integration with Congress and all the potential others | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | but i'll only +1 f it is good | 15:04 |
| bklei | lgtm | 15:04 |
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| fabiog | rhochmuth: yeah, 2 lines of text changes ... :-) | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Healtcheck for python API (monasca-api, monasca-log-api) | 15:04 |
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| tomasztrebski | yeah, hello...made it :) | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | hi tomasz | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | so, i've seen the changes to the monasca-log-api for adding a healtcheck | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | and obviousely, we would like to do the same for the monasca-api and monasca-events-api | 15:05 |
| tomasztrebski | link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249685/ | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | but it sounds like we have to figure out what the right approach is | 15:06 |
| bklei | would love that for monasca-api -- we hope it's lightweight though, would like to call from load balancers | 15:06 |
| tomasztrebski | good to hear, that was my assumption that's why I wanted to bring it up here | 15:06 |
| witek | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249685/ | 15:06 |
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| bklei | does it require auth? | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | so, what is the overall design | 15:07 |
| tomasztrebski | thx witek | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | can you step us throught that | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | via irc? | 15:07 |
| tomasztrebski | an overall proposal, lets call it like that, was to use oslo middleware so something from openstack | 15:07 |
| tomasztrebski | I think that's a nice idea while being under a tent | 15:07 |
| fabiog | bklei: it does because is a filter | 15:07 |
| bklei | bummer | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | so, the middleware is a filter that would end-up in the stack on every call? | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | every method? | 15:08 |
| tomasztrebski | basically what Fabio has noticed is that using middleware from oslo ties it up to the API | 15:08 |
| fabiog | rhochmuth: yes | 15:08 |
| bklei | would like something similar for monasca-api, and eventually anything behind a lb that doesn't fill the logs with auth errors | 15:08 |
| fabiog | tomasztrebski: also it prevents the loadbalancer to perform the check, because you have to do a "real" call | 15:09 |
| bklei | maybe that's not 'healthcheck' as much as 'alive' | 15:09 |
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| tomasztrebski | with gunicorn standing behind monasc-api, monasca-log-api and events too I believe only solution is to run secondary process on different port doing a healtcheck | 15:09 |
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| rhochmuth | that would be more similar to how the java api works | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | dropwziard bases | 15:09 |
| fabiog | tomasztrebski: not necessaroly. If we have an endpoint called health a load balancer can it that at the frequency they want | 15:09 |
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| bklei | +1 | 15:10 |
| tomasztrebski | yes and quite achievable with upstart for instance and dependent services, i.e. start after as far as I remeber | 15:10 |
| fabiog | as I mentioned in the comment you can implement HEAD and GET, HEAD just being aliveness and GET being a full checking that all the components are working | 15:10 |
| tomasztrebski | yes, that's another disadvantage of current implementation in oslo.middleware | 15:11 |
| fabiog | so deployers can decide if to use a single validation point or monitor the components separately | 15:11 |
| tomasztrebski | check does not know what HTTP method was used | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | is it possible to start-up a second server in a python api, with a new endpoint declared | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | and would that make sense? | 15:12 |
| fabiog | rhochmuth: why do you want a second server? | 15:12 |
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| rhochmuth | well, maybe because i'm confused | 15:12 |
| fabiog | rhochmuth: if the second server is down you report an error that may not exist | 15:12 |
| tomasztrebski | rhochmuth: it is possible | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | but, i think having a private or second endpoint in the api is what i'm after | 15:12 |
| tomasztrebski | but fabioq proposal is to have it builtin in the API right ? | 15:12 |
| fabiog | +1 | 15:12 |
| fabiog | tomasztrebski: yes | 15:13 |
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| rhochmuth | but, i don't think it should be visible externally/publicially | 15:13 |
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| rhochmuth | or maybe it should, but that is not what i usually do | 15:13 |
| tomasztrebski | but that will be a a difference between Java/Python, because with gunicorn you ties up an app to given port and only that port | 15:13 |
| tomasztrebski | AFAIK | 15:14 |
| fabiog | tomasztrebski: yes it will have the same port | 15:14 |
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| rhochmuth | well, i was thinking a new endpoint for healtchecks that runs on a different host and port | 15:14 |
| fabiog | something like 8087:/v2/logs/health | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | so you could control and lock it down independetly of the public api | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | if you want to | 15:15 |
| fabiog | rhochmuth: but how do you make sure that if that server is down the real service is running and vice versa? | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | for example, you loadbalance healthcheck would be able to access it, but it wouldn't be avaialble publically | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | not sure i understand | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | your question fabiog | 15:16 |
| tomasztrebski | healthcheck could verify if a port is open for instance | 15:16 |
| tsv | +1 on the separate endpoint for healthcheck. Btw, tomasztrebski are we tied to gunicorn ? for example, companies may use apache instead ? | 15:16 |
| fabiog | rhochmuth: load balancer hits the health check endpoint that is a different server | 15:16 |
| fabiog | rhochmuth: if that is down it does not mean that Monasca API is down | 15:16 |
| fabiog | rhochmuth: if it is part of the same server as soon as that instance is down lb knows and can re-route traffic to another instance | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | by separate server, it is just a separate server within the same monasca-api that is running | 15:17 |
| tomasztrebski | tsv: we are using gunicorn as the common ground in monasca, monasca-api has it too, that's why it is used, but essentially it is WSGI, so any WSGI server can be used | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | For example, start a private endpoint using | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | if __name__ == '__main__': | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | wsgi_app = ( | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | paste.deploy.loadapp('config:etc/api-config.ini', | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | relative_to=os.getcwd())) | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | httpd = simple_server.make_server('127.0.0.1', 8080, wsgi_app) | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | httpd.serve_forever() | 15:18 |
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| fabiog | rhochmuth: ok, so it is a child process of the main monasca api service | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | i guess | 15:19 |
| fabiog | rhochmuth: so if that is dead you know monasca api is dead | 15:19 |
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| rhochmuth | that is what i was thinking | 15:19 |
| tomasztrebski | yummy, makes sense to me | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | problems is in python i guess you can't just start up a separate thread with the server running on it | 15:19 |
| fabiog | rhochmuth: I think that is important to be sure of, because you don't want two separate moving parts | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | like you can in java | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | with dropwizard | 15:19 |
| tomasztrebski | let's call it investigation and see where does it lead to...I am mostly interested in doing it right rather then fast | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | so, it seems like some more investigation is necessary on whether that can be done or not | 15:20 |
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| tomasztrebski | +1 | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | ok, tomasz, i was midstread in my sentence | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | so you're going to continue to investigate | 15:20 |
| tomasztrebski | yes | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | ok, thanks | 15:20 |
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| rhochmuth | let's close this topic then and see what tomasz finds out | 15:21 |
| witek | #action tomasztrebski Investigate adding healthchecks | 15:21 |
| tomasztrebski | internally that's what we want to have, change was more or less a proposal and ground to start a discussion | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | if anyone else has ideas please work with tomasz | 15:21 |
| tomasztrebski | you know where to find me :P | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | #topic yandex.ru | 15:22 |
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| rhochmuth | yandex.ru | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | 3.1 https://review.openstack.org/252305 | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | 3.2 https://review.openstack.org/252302 | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | 3.3 https://review.openstack.org/252315 | 15:22 |
| tomasztrebski | lots and lots of LOC | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | So, I'm wondering what this all about | 15:22 |
| tomasztrebski | don't ask my, I wanted to ask the same | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | is oiskam1 available or anyone else from yandex | 15:23 |
| witek | :) someone would like to replace hibernate | 15:23 |
| bklei | ^^^ is a scary set of patches | 15:23 |
| tomasztrebski | and mysql to be precise | 15:23 |
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| rhochmuth | yeah, that is what it looks like | 15:23 |
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| tomasztrebski | those changes remove everything that monasca did before fujitsu and what Fujitsu has addded | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | i haven't looked at in any detail | 15:23 |
| fabiog | rhochmuth: please ask for a spec first | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | well, it would be good to first understand what the movitivation is and then a discussion and spec | 15:24 |
| shinya_kwbt | jooq | 15:24 |
| fabiog | rhochmuth: the spec should have the motivation in it, right? | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | ok, doesn't sound like anyone is here form yandex | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | correct fabiog | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | i think we just need to leave some comments and -1 at this point | 15:25 |
| tomasztrebski | I didn't expect someone from yandex to be here, there is nobody assigned to those changes apart from Jenkins | 15:25 |
| tomasztrebski | but Jenkins is being invited to each party, so.... | 15:25 |
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| rhochmuth | we don't have any understanding of why the change is proposed | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | i'll add my comments to the reviews | 15:26 |
| fabiog | rhochmuth: done ;-) | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | and i would encourage others to do the same | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | and we'll have to see where this leads to | 15:26 |
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| tomasztrebski | that's a tall mountain to climb on.... | 15:26 |
| tomasztrebski | but we'll try | 15:26 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic Status update on api caching? | 15:27 |
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| rhochmuth | Am i supposed to give an update | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | no change | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | sorry | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | i was out last week | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | and this week is not going well | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | pretty mich reviews and meetings all week | 15:27 |
| bklei | ok -- np, been busy doing other stuff here too | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | can this wait until next year | 15:28 |
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| fabiog | rhochmuth: the price of being famous ... | 15:28 |
| bklei | if it has to i suppose, may try to get to it if you don't | 15:28 |
| bklei | if i can clear my deck | 15:28 |
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| rhochmuth | i'll be happy to work with you on what i think should be done | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | if you free up | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | also get deklan's eye on it | 15:29 |
| bklei | ok - will let you know if i do | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | to get a proper design in-place | 15:29 |
| bklei | and deklan | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | i'll keep you updated | 15:29 |
| bklei | gracias | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | on my status | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | #topic InfluxDB plugin (use of service vs. component dimension, naming of metrics) (jobrs) | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196167/ | 15:30 |
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| jobrs | that's me | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | jobrs that you | 15:30 |
| jobrs | so, I took what Dexter had prepared | 15:30 |
| jobrs | and address the leftovers, which seemed to focus on naming of metrics | 15:31 |
| jobrs | as it turned out, there is more to fix and it will take me some more days | 15:31 |
| jobrs | two questions came up: what to use dimension "service" for and for what "component" is good | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | service is usually the nice human readable name for the service | 15:32 |
| jobrs | Monasca: service=monitoring, component=e.g. apache-storm, monasca-api, ... | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | nice tautology isn't it | 15:33 |
| jobrs | absolutely! | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | so, for a service like nova/compute | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | the service is "compute" | 15:33 |
| jobrs | my perception so far: service for the exposed service | 15:33 |
| jobrs | yep | 15:33 |
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| rhochmuth | that service has a bunch of components in it like nova-api, nova-compute, … | 15:33 |
| jobrs | and component for the technical part (which might be a service, micro service, whatever) | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | so the component is the actual executable | 15:33 |
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| rhochmuth | in the case of something like mysql | 15:34 |
| jobrs | so looking at influxdb, it is generic | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | the component woudl be mysqld | 15:34 |
| jobrs | service=<user defined> | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | with the "d" on the end for the mysql daemon | 15:34 |
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| rhochmuth | so, for influxdb i would use service=influxdb | 15:35 |
| rhochmuth | the component name might be component=influx or influxd | 15:35 |
| rhochmuth | whatever is the name of the influxdb component | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | Is everyone still there | 15:36 |
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| fabiog | witek: yes. | 15:42 |
| tomasztrebski | mhm...here we go again.... | 15:42 |
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| fabiog | witek: all the monasca code has a 2015.1 tag, that corresponds to stable/kilo | 15:43 |
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| fabiog | witek: I asked to be added in the official set for Monasca, but apparently Openstack does not have a deLoran yet, so they cannot go back in time and add it | 15:44 |
| fabiog | deLorean | 15:44 |
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| fabiog | witek: the first release that we can officially add is Mitaka since we weren't really ready before Liberty was cut | 15:45 |
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| fabiog | witek: still there? | 15:45 |
| tgraichen_ | new we from berlin were thrown out as well for a moment | 15:45 |
| witek | fabiog: yes, reading | 15:45 |
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| fabiog | I think Roland has been caught in the connectivity outage net | 15:49 |
| witek | seems so | 15:49 |
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| jobrs | continue with influx+naming topic or postpone? | 15:50 |
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| jobrs | so I will just finish what I wanted to say (for the recording): | 15:54 |
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| witek | jobrs: yes, go on | 15:55 |
| jobrs | for the influxdb plugin I will not set service-dimension (since there are InfluxDBs not serving Monasca) and set the component-dimension to 'influxdb' (which is not just the process but InfluxDB as a whole) | 15:55 |
| jobrs | I changed the metric names to remove Camel-case and removed the .count, .curr, etc. suffixes since IMHO they do not add meaning to the name | 15:56 |
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| jobrs | finally I would like to introduce meaningful defaults for today's parameters, so that it is sufficient to merely set the user credentials to make the plugin work | 15:57 |
| jobrs | that's it - let's follow-up inside https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196167/ | 15:58 |
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| witek | jobrs: thanks | 15:59 |
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| witek | so, I think we should end the meeting | 16:00 |
| witek | anyone knows, how to do it without admin? | 16:00 |
| jobrs | wait for the next meeting and its admin | 16:00 |
| zehicle | if you started it, then you can edit it | 16:00 |
| zehicle | we're here | 16:00 |
| zehicle | #startmeeting defore | 16:00 |
| openstack | zehicle: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 16:00 |
| zehicle | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 2 16:01:07 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2015/monasca.2015-12-02-15.00.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2015/monasca.2015-12-02-15.00.txt | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2015/monasca.2015-12-02-15.00.log.html | 16:01 |
| zehicle | #startmeeting defore | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 2 16:01:15 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zehicle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'defore' | 16:01 |
| zehicle | #chair eglute | 16:01 |
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| markvoelker | o/ | 16:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute zehicle | 16:01 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 16:01 |
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| hogepodge | o/ | 16:01 |
| eglute | #topic agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreRing.4 | 16:01 |
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| zehicle | #chair hogepodge | 16:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute hogepodge zehicle | 16:01 |
| Catherine1 | O/ | 16:01 |
| zehicle | o/ | 16:01 |
| zehicle | #chair markvoelker | 16:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute hogepodge markvoelker zehicle | 16:01 |
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| eglute | Hi Everyone, please review the agenda. | 16:02 |
| eglute | please add/edit remove | 16:02 |
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| eglute | #topic should openstack require linux vms | 16:03 |
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| zehicle | #title defcore | 16:04 |
| zehicle | sorry about messing up the title :? | 16:04 |
| eglute | We had a lot of discussions about it, and we are also going to present this issue during the board meeting on Thursday | 16:05 |
| eglute | I think we will live with that title for today :) | 16:05 |
| markvoelker | So I guess the things we need to do are 1.) Finish up the doc and 2.) hogepodge was going to get this on the next TC agenda? | 16:05 |
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| markvoelker | Then wait for their feedback, make a final call on the review once we have it? | 16:06 |
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| markvoelker | (and follow-up actions obviously, if any) | 16:06 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker: I'm writing up an agenda item right now for the meeting on the 8th | 16:06 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: thanks | 16:06 |
| eglute | #meetingtopic defcore | 16:07 |
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| markvoelker | The board meeting is 12pm PST tomorrow, correct? I'll make a point to dial in. | 16:08 |
| zehicle | yes | 16:08 |
| zehicle | we have 40 minutes on the agenda | 16:08 |
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| markvoelker | Ok, any other action needed on this topic right now then? I think we just need to give ourselves an AI to review the latest changes to the doc from yesterday and make sure we've covered everything. | 16:10 |
| eglute | not right now. unless there are any other comments on the issue that have not been voiced yet | 16:10 |
| eglute | besides that, please provide feedback on the doc and possible actions | 16:10 |
| zehicle | I suspect that we'll have a "get community feedback" AI from the BoD tomorrow | 16:11 |
| eglute | well, we tried to get the community feedback | 16:11 |
| eglute | and we got some | 16:11 |
| hogepodge | I'd like to include a link to the doc to give the TC something to prep from. | 16:11 |
| eglute | short of sending out a survey, i am not sure what else | 16:12 |
| markvoelker | Perhaps we should point out in the doc that the review has been open for X amount of time and went out to the ML's on date X? | 16:12 |
| eglute | hogepodge yes, you should | 16:12 |
| eglute | markvoelker good point | 16:12 |
| markvoelker | Just so the Board is aware. | 16:12 |
| hogepodge | Or just include the full text in my mail, since that would probably be preferred to a number of people over viewing the google doc. | 16:12 |
| eglute | right, we need to include it | 16:12 |
| eglute | hogepodge you can provide the link, it is set to comments | 16:12 |
| eglute | hogepodge or text/both | 16:12 |
| eglute | do you think this issue has been communicated widely enough? we can ask foundation to send out a survey | 16:13 |
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| markvoelker | I'm not sure a survey is going to provide much more data than we already got, but I'm not opposed if they want to. | 16:14 |
| hogepodge | I don't think we need a survey. | 16:14 |
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| hogepodge | It's a tool we don't want to use very often. There's a lot of survey fatigue in the community. | 16:14 |
| eglute | agree | 16:14 |
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| markvoelker | Ok, so: | 16:15 |
| markvoelker | #action everyone review/make final changes to doc | 16:15 |
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| markvoelker | #action markvoelker Add note about how we've solicited community feedback to doc | 16:15 |
| markvoelker | Anything else? Next topic? | 16:16 |
| eglute | #topic Adjust scoring weights | 16:16 |
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| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226980/ | 16:16 |
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| eglute | this is something I would like to hear everyones opinion on | 16:17 |
| markvoelker | Hmm...just realized I never added a second patchset to that one to show the impact of the changes on current scoring. I'll do that. | 16:17 |
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| markvoelker | Would like to hear general feedback in the interim though. | 16:17 |
| eglute | this RFC has been out for a while | 16:17 |
| eglute | right, general feedback would be great. i would like us to change the scoring | 16:18 |
| markvoelker | #action markvoelker Update patch to show potential scoring worksheet impact | 16:18 |
| eglute | at least for the future direction | 16:18 |
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| eglute | does anyone else have an opinion on this patch right now | 16:19 |
| zehicle | sorry - have not really doing a good review :( | 16:19 |
| markvoelker | Please also note that part of this patch depends on this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226978/ | 16:19 |
| markvoelker | The latter changes the definitions of tools and clients a bit. | 16:19 |
| eglute | i like the updated definitions | 16:20 |
| markvoelker | Yeah, I think that one may be less controversial...it sort of came up repeatedly in the scoring we've been doing, so feels pretty natural. But I may be biased. =p | 16:21 |
| eglute | I agree with you... if everyone else approves, would like to get this one merged this week | 16:22 |
| zehicle | I'm OK w/ this | 16:22 |
| eglute | zehicle please comment on the patch as well | 16:22 |
| eglute | regarding the weights- markvoelker will you submit a patch to show how it will affect current scores? | 16:23 |
| * zehicle done | 16:23 | |
| eglute | thanks zehicle | 16:23 |
| markvoelker | YEah, I gave myself an # action on that above. Should be able to knock that out today. | 16:23 |
| eglute | thank you markvoelker | 16:23 |
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| markvoelker | Thought I'd done that weeks ago, so sorry for the lag. =) | 16:24 |
| eglute | if there are no comments on the weights, we can move to the next topic | 16:24 |
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| markvoelker | One more thing | 16:24 |
| eglute | ok | 16:24 |
| markvoelker | If we like one or both of those changes, we should decide when we want them to take effect before landing them. | 16:25 |
| markvoelker | I would assume at this point we'd let them take effect in 2016.07... | 16:25 |
| eglute | I think we can land the tools definitions first | 16:25 |
| markvoelker | (since we've already completed scoring for 2016.01) | 16:25 |
| eglute | right, we would not re-score for 2016.1 | 16:25 |
| markvoelker | Should I just update both patches to remove the [RFC] and state in the commit message when they would take effect? | 16:25 |
| eglute | yes, i think that would be good | 16:26 |
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| markvoelker | #action markvoelker Update patches to remove [RFC] and state that changes take effect in 2016.07 scoring | 16:26 |
| eglute | thanks markvoelker | 16:26 |
| eglute | next topic? | 16:26 |
| markvoelker | sure | 16:26 |
| eglute | #topic review patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246497/ | 16:27 |
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| eglute | which looks like markvoelker has added +1 | 16:27 |
| * markvoelker nods | 16:27 | |
| eglute | this is a small issue | 16:27 |
| eglute | so, unless there are any objections, i will merge it now | 16:27 |
| zehicle | catching up | 16:28 |
| eglute | ok | 16:28 |
| eglute | besides this, i didnt have a anything else on the agenda since i thought the linux issue will take up our time again. however, i would like to ask everyone to help out with the backlog | 16:29 |
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| eglute | we have some really old patches opened, some waiting for comments | 16:29 |
| eglute | #topic backlog | 16:29 |
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| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/defcore,n,z | 16:30 |
| markvoelker | This one could use a look or two. hogepodge and a couple of RAX folks have chimed in, but we haven't come to consensus on the testing window... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232128/ | 16:30 |
| zehicle | where di we end up w/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233814/? | 16:31 |
| hogepodge | I can add some comments. | 16:31 |
| eglute | zehicle we are waiting on you i think | 16:32 |
| hogepodge | In general, we want license agreements to last for a year, with the possibility of auto-renewal through submission of new test data within the year licensing period. | 16:32 |
| eglute | there are a couple comments on re-wording https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233814/ | 16:32 |
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| eglute | hogepodge so you are talking about optional auto-renewal? | 16:33 |
| zehicle | I thought I'd addressed all the comments | 16:33 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: what happen to the case when product upgrade to the newer openstack release ... is the license still good for the year? | 16:33 |
| catherineD | say licesne was certified for Juno but product is now upgrade to Kilo .. is the license still good? | 16:34 |
| hogepodge | We want the licenses to roll with the products, so if you upgrade to new releases and pass a recent guideline the renewal will carry forward. | 16:34 |
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| eglute | ^^^ interesting | 16:35 |
| eglute | anyone knows whats going on | 16:35 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: so vendor still needs to run tests against the update guideline | 16:35 |
| eglute | ##meetingtopic defcore | 16:35 |
| eglute | #meetingtopic defcore | 16:35 |
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| hogepodge | catherineD: yes | 16:35 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: k thanks | 16:36 |
| eglute | my only concern with rolling re-testing is requiring re-testing more than once a year | 16:36 |
| catherineD | eglute: its does for vendors who keep up with openstack release in this case | 16:37 |
| markvoelker | I think on that one I'd really like to hear from some other public cloud vendors. The biggest impact of this is to them (and their consumers). | 16:37 |
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| dwalleck | It definitely encourages rolling DefCore testing into CI processes of public clouds | 16:37 |
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| SammyD | +1 dwalleck | 16:39 |
| eglute | it does encourage extra testing, but i am still not a fan of adding extra burden of re-testing/re-certifying every two months or whatever the schedules might be for vendors | 16:39 |
| zehicle | putting on a user hat - it's a major problem if a cloud goes out of DefCore compliance | 16:39 |
| Rick_K | all: I'm new to this meeting, can you explain this license to me? How it has an affect on a product when a new version comes out? | 16:39 |
| hogepodge | the foundation doesn't want to be swamped with rolling test results, but having a way to check them with some frequency would help with license renewal | 16:39 |
| catherineD | dwalleck: vendors most likely will have DefCore tests in their CI process ... the question is how often these results should be sent to RefStacke for certification purpose ... | 16:39 |
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| hogepodge | unrelated to the topic at hand, if you have any comments on the TC agenda item post leave them here. I'll send the e-mail after the meeting ends. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/defcore-tc-dec-8-agenda-item | 16:40 |
| Rick_K | all: or provide a link where i can read the details of it? | 16:40 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: exactly ... RefStack should not be flooded with vendors interim test results .. | 16:40 |
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| markvoelker | Rick_K: sure, are you familiar with the Foundation's OpenStack Powered (TM) programs already? | 16:40 |
| dwalleck | catherineD: Either continously or immediately running up to a push of public code | 16:40 |
| hogepodge | Rick_K: This should get you up to speed #link http://www.openstack.org/brand/interop/ | 16:40 |
| Rick_K | got it, thanks | 16:40 |
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| eglute | since i am reading different opinions here, it would be really good if everyone commented on the patch as well | 16:43 |
| eglute | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232128/ | 16:43 |
| eglute | i will do so myself as well | 16:43 |
| eglute | hogepodge would foundation want different schedules for different types of products? | 16:44 |
| hogepodge | eglute: I think we want products to be tested annually, or when there is significant upgrade or code change | 16:44 |
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| eglute | hogepodge how would you define significant? | 16:45 |
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| hogepodge | new version, apis, and so on. | 16:45 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: new change to policy.json? | 16:45 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: new change to configs? Playing devil's advoctate, those are one-liners that can break users. | 16:46 |
| hogepodge | changing openstack version, changing apis | 16:46 |
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| eglute | #meetingtopic defcore | 16:46 |
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| markvoelker | And in public/some managed products, users don't get to determine when they consume those changes. | 16:46 |
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| eglute | yeah, keeps reseting to the previous meeting for some reason. will see where this meeting will be logged. | 16:48 |
| Rick_K | all: on the testing, is this a question of the amount of workload on those that have to review the uploaded results, or on the vendors making the product to have to test relatively often? | 16:48 |
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| eglute | Rick_K both | 16:49 |
| Rick_K | i c | 16:49 |
| markvoelker | Rick_K: a little of both, but mostly the latter I think. RefStack makes reviewing the results relatively easy (at the risk of putting words in hogepodge's mouth). | 16:49 |
| eglute | that is why we are asking for feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232128/ | 16:49 |
| Rick_K | How quick is the review completed? | 16:49 |
| Rick_K | eglute: got it, catching up, sorry if I am rehashing things a bit | 16:50 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker: it makes reviewing results very easy. Night and day from what I was doing before | 16:50 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker: it also puts a lot of trust in companies, because refstack results are really easy to cheat | 16:50 |
| eglute | Rick_K no worries, hope you get a chance to review and provide feedback | 16:50 |
| markvoelker | Rick_K: in my recent experience, we got feedback within a couple of days of submitting results. | 16:50 |
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| Rick_K | i c | 16:51 |
| dwalleck | For a public cloud, the benefit to more continuous testing is that it surfaces issues immediately rather than finding it out every 6-12 months | 16:51 |
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| SammyD | +1 dwalleck | 16:51 |
| hogepodge | Rick_K: I review the results and work with our web, legal, and marketing teams to send out the licenses and update the marketplace entries | 16:51 |
| dwalleck | And the work to fix issues as they happen is almost certainly less than fixing them yearly | 16:51 |
| eglute | dwalleck yes, but the public clouds can continuously test regardless | 16:51 |
| hogepodge | two classifications are ok | 16:52 |
| hogepodge | related to the cheating comment, I'd like for the guidelines and tests to evolve to actually be testable by consumers of clouds | 16:52 |
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| markvoelker | Just to point out, the patch sets up two schedules centered on when changes could break users...so it's essentially a user-centric approach | 16:52 |
| hogepodge | so users and community don't have to trust results, they can check for themselves | 16:52 |
| markvoelker | E.g. users of, say, a distro get to choose when they deploy updates or change configs. Users of public clouds and some managed products don't, and may not really have any visibility into when those things change (unless it breaks them). | 16:53 |
| hogepodge | right now our test suite doesn't allow that to be done easily (you need to tenant separated accounts and a large number of compute resources for each account, on one public cloud buying enough resources to pass defcore tests would cost me over $200/month) | 16:53 |
| hogepodge | s/to tenant/two tenant/ | 16:54 |
| eglute | hogepodge so it is really the test issue. i think we had discussed this in the past, need to change tempest to be less greedy | 16:54 |
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| hogepodge | eglute: I'm evaluating that right now with my own little cloud to see what tests we can target to slim down | 16:55 |
| eglute | hogepodge let us know what you find | 16:55 |
| eglute | besides waiting on more feedback from users, any other feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232128/ right now? | 16:56 |
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| eglute | if not, we can end the meeting 3 min early! | 16:57 |
| eglute | or 2 | 16:57 |
| markvoelker | One other review of interest for DefCore folks: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232371/ | 16:57 |
| eglute | i have looked at it, but did not dig in | 16:58 |
| markvoelker | This is a glance spec that incorporates some of the feedback we've sent to glance concerning images and API versions in the past several months, so worth taking a look if you haven't. | 16:58 |
| hogepodge | It's looking to build out a discoverable and interoperable api to capture all image upload use cases | 16:58 |
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| eglute | thanks markvoelker and hogepodge | 16:59 |
| eglute | we are at time, thanks everyone | 16:59 |
| eglute | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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| alaski | #startmeeting nova_cells | 17:00 |
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| alaski | anyone around for cells today? | 17:00 |
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| melwitt | o/ | 17:01 |
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| alaski | heh. are your insulin levels back to reasonable levels? | 17:01 |
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| alaski | #topic Cells testing | 17:02 |
| dansmith | yes, belly fat, not so much | 17:02 |
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| vineetmenon | o/ | 17:02 |
| alaski | dansmith: lol | 17:02 |
| alaski | melwitt: anything concerning these days? | 17:02 |
| melwitt | alaski: not that I'm aware of | 17:02 |
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| alaski | great. no news is good news | 17:03 |
| alaski | #topic Specs | 17:03 |
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| alaski | anyone have outstanding specs for review? | 17:03 |
| alaski | according to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-spec-review-tracking we're all merged | 17:03 |
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| alaski | cool | 17:04 |
| alaski | #topic Open Reviews | 17:05 |
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| alaski | dansmith: I wanted to get back to your concern about sqlalchemy in this series https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201606/ | 17:05 |
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| alaski | and it being needed on computes | 17:06 |
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| dansmith | alaski: is there an update for me to look at? | 17:06 |
| alaski | well, I never saw any comments from you on the reviews | 17:07 |
| dansmith | oh snap, sure enough | 17:07 |
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| dansmith | so, thinking about this again, | 17:08 |
| dansmith | I'm wondering there is really anything to be gained by not having that code in the object directly | 17:08 |
| dansmith | if we have no db url configured, do we never load the actual sqlalchemy module? | 17:08 |
| dansmith | or do we get all the way to that point anyway? | 17:08 |
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| dansmith | if so, then we're not adding any new dependency, or rather, we aren't really free from that one like I thought we were | 17:09 |
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| alaski | yeah, I think it would still be imported either way | 17:09 |
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| alaski | unless there's a lazy import somewhere in db/api.py | 17:10 |
| dansmith | if there's not, this prevents us being able to add one later I guess | 17:10 |
| melwitt | I was thinking about it yesterday and I while I don't like adding the dependency in a new place other than the db abstraction layer, I can see the reasoning since no one else would be calling the db api | 17:10 |
| dansmith | I was thinking more about something that loads sqlalchemy/api or rax/foobarapi instead | 17:11 |
| dansmith | melwitt: well, I like having the sqla code in the object because db_api and sqlalchemy_api are both layers that don't buy us much | 17:11 |
| dansmith | and they're more work every time we do a thing | 17:11 |
| dansmith | I just don't like forcing us to have very direct sqlalchemy code that high up from a dep point of view | 17:12 |
| melwitt | yeah | 17:12 |
| dansmith | alaski: I suppose we could make a fake sqlalchemy module that we load on the computes if we importerror on importing it, | 17:12 |
| dansmith | which we already do with the db-errors-out wedge | 17:12 |
| dansmith | so maybe that's the thing to do | 17:12 |
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| alaski | I was just considering that as well | 17:12 |
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| dansmith | so yeah, I guess I'll withdraw my concern | 17:13 |
| alaski | I think I'm on board with that | 17:13 |
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| alaski | okay, cool | 17:14 |
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| alaski | we'll want to get a blueprint together for that work and then get it in place before this pattern is copied too many more times | 17:15 |
| dansmith | for the wedge? | 17:15 |
| dansmith | I think we can always do that later, right? and it's just a class with a getattr handler that blows up I think | 17:15 |
| dansmith | or do you mean the pattern for the import handler? | 17:16 |
| alaski | the import handler | 17:16 |
| dansmith | okay | 17:16 |
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| alaski | anything else for open reviews? | 17:17 |
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| alaski | #topic Open Discussion | 17:17 |
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| alaski | anyone have a topic for today? | 17:18 |
| belmoreira | sorry for being late | 17:18 |
| belmoreira | do you talked about flavors reviews? | 17:18 |
| dansmith | we should discuss that | 17:18 |
| dansmith | heh | 17:18 |
| alaski | :) | 17:18 |
| alaski | belmoreira: we did talk about them | 17:18 |
| belmoreira | dansmith :) | 17:19 |
| alaski | specifically about the sqlalchemy import, but for now nothing needs to be done differently | 17:19 |
| belmoreira | ok I will read the logs then | 17:19 |
| lalitd | alaski: in patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213041 day before jenkin was +1 but now it is merge conflict | 17:20 |
| alaski | lalitd: you'll need to rebase the change | 17:20 |
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| belmoreira | I will take care of it | 17:20 |
| alaski | really the series needs to be rebased when that happens | 17:21 |
| lalitd | alaski: ok | 17:21 |
| alaski | if nothing else then we'll end here | 17:22 |
| alaski | thanks everyone | 17:22 |
| alaski | #endmeeting | 17:22 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 2 17:22:31 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:22 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2015/nova_cells.2015-12-02-17.00.html | 17:22 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2015/nova_cells.2015-12-02-17.00.txt | 17:22 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2015/nova_cells.2015-12-02-17.00.log.html | 17:22 |
| vineetmenon | bye | 17:22 |
| lalitd | byy | 17:23 |
| vineetmenon | \bye | 17:23 |
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| xgerman | o/ | 18:30 |
| SridarK | Hi All | 18:30 |
| annp | Hi | 18:30 |
| xgerman | sc68cal, sridark? | 18:30 |
| Aish | hi | 18:30 |
| mickeys | Hi | 18:30 |
| xgerman | last time I started the meeting wrong and meetbot didn’t make minutes | 18:31 |
| sc68cal | hello | 18:32 |
| sc68cal | #startmeeting neutron_fwaas | 18:32 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 2 18:32:12 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sc68cal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:32 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:32 |
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| sc68cal | arg | 18:32 |
| sc68cal | #undo | 18:32 |
| sc68cal | #endmeeting | 18:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 2 18:32:32 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_fwaas/2015/neutron_fwaas.2015-12-02-18.32.html | 18:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_fwaas/2015/neutron_fwaas.2015-12-02-18.32.txt | 18:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_fwaas/2015/neutron_fwaas.2015-12-02-18.32.log.html | 18:32 |
| sc68cal | I think we do it as networking_fwaas | 18:32 |
| sc68cal | #startmeeting networking_fwaas | 18:32 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_fwaas' | 18:32 |
| xgerman | yeah, let’s make sure we got the right name :-) | 18:32 |
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| sc68cal | #chair xgerman | 18:33 |
| openstack | Current chairs: sc68cal xgerman | 18:33 |
| sc68cal | #chair SridarK | 18:33 |
| openstack | Current chairs: SridarK sc68cal xgerman | 18:33 |
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| ajmiller | Hi | 18:33 |
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| njohnston | o/ | 18:34 |
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| sc68cal | So, since we're still working on the API spec I figure we can probably use this time to talk, in a less latentcy setting | 18:34 |
| sc68cal | *low latency | 18:34 |
| sc68cal | but I know pc_m just put a big e-mail on the list about some things so he may want to chat | 18:34 |
| SridarK | +1 | 18:34 |
| xgerman | yep, just make sure to read through the links in the announcements + we need to talk 5 minutes midcycle | 18:34 |
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| xgerman | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/FWaaS#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting | 18:34 |
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| SridarK | i think the spec is converging, mickeys: thanks for the responses to my last set of comments | 18:36 |
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| xgerman | +1 | 18:36 |
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| sc68cal | I think based on the etherpad it looks like the same week as lbaas would be useful | 18:37 |
| sc68cal | less logistics to deal with | 18:37 |
| sc68cal | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas-mitaka-midcycle | 18:38 |
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| xgerman | well, we are hosting Cosmos anyway in Seattle = dougwig will be there | 18:38 |
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| SridarK | sc68cal: yes i agree too | 18:38 |
| dougwig | Kosmos | 18:38 |
| pc_m | sc68cal: talking about the constants? | 18:39 |
| SridarK | xgerman: u will need to straddle lbaas and fwaas - so are we doing complete overlap on the days ? | 18:39 |
| dougwig | are you thinking co-locate, or completely separate? i think some of the lbaas folks are interested in fw stuff. | 18:40 |
| xgerman | co-locate | 18:40 |
| xgerman | but maybe use a different corner room for breakout | 18:41 |
| dougwig | ok, good. | 18:41 |
| xgerman | or we can do Seattle… then we get more HP people | 18:41 |
| dougwig | sigh. | 18:41 |
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| sc68cal | either way lets please decide - like now. Frankly we shouldn't be changing - people could be booking their travel as we speak | 18:42 |
| sc68cal | hint hint... | 18:42 |
| xgerman | smaks me and then quits - what is that supposed to tell me | 18:42 |
| SridarK | if there is some overlap on folks - then colocate with lbass makes more sense ? | 18:43 |
| vishwanathj | xgerman, looks like you smacked about hard at him :) | 18:43 |
| SridarK | xgerman: u will need to clone urself or timeshare if we also overlap on all the days | 18:43 |
| xgerman | true | 18:44 |
| jwarendt | I'm of course partial to Seattle, being based here, so on German's side despite smackage. | 18:45 |
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| sc68cal | ok - so someone needs to tell me where the heck i'm booking my flight for | 18:46 |
| dougw2 | sc68cal: netsplit crash | 18:46 |
| dougw2 | what was the result? | 18:46 |
| xgerman | dougw - what’s your recommendation? | 18:46 |
| xgerman | dougw2 I won the smack down | 18:46 |
| xgerman | bit no location yet | 18:46 |
| dougw2 | i'd like to see us all in texas. | 18:47 |
| sc68cal | I agree with doug | 18:47 |
| dougw2 | nuts, eavesdrop is hosed too. | 18:48 |
| mickeys | xgerman: Are you proposing a different week in Seattle, or are you planning to clone yourself? | 18:49 |
| xgerman | different week in Seattle | 18:49 |
| xgerman | January 12-15 in San Antonio, TX, collocated with LBaaS | 18:49 |
| xgerman | January 19-22 in Seattle, WA, collocated with Kosmos (GSLB) | 18:49 |
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| xgerman | those are the options | 18:49 |
| mickeys | I should be OK either way | 18:51 |
| SridarK | I am fine with either - earlier is better - so we can get things moving. I will need to ask for approvals etc .. | 18:51 |
| sc68cal | I would prefer the 12th | 18:52 |
| xgerman | sc68cal/dougw2 you like San Antonio | 18:52 |
| xgerman | ? | 18:52 |
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| SridarK | xgerman: would it work for u to have both lbaas and fwaas at the same time ? | 18:52 |
| dougw2 | i'll be at both, though i have kosmos marked as jan 20-22, not 19-. i'd like to at least finalize the api in the earlier one. | 18:53 |
| SridarK | if u are good then lets decide quickly and spend some time on the spec | 18:53 |
| xgerman | I am good with either | 18:53 |
| xgerman | I am trying to focus on FWaaS more anyway | 18:53 |
| johnsom | Kosmos is 20-22 | 18:54 |
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| SridarK | ok cool - so we have a decision then for Jan 12 ? | 18:55 |
| xgerman | looks like it | 18:55 |
| xgerman | hope we have good remote options for the HP people our budget doesn’t cover ;-) | 18:55 |
| SridarK | xgerman: +1 | 18:55 |
| dougw2 | can you use fw as a wedge to get some more budget? | 18:55 |
| xgerman | if I only would control my budget - I would just get a rental and drive them... | 18:56 |
| jwarendt | Hmm - San Diego to Seattle to San Antonio - quite a road trip. | 18:57 |
| SridarK | xgerman: can u pick me up on the way somewhere :-) My boss would happy on the travel budget savings too | 18:57 |
| sc68cal | alright - so unless there are any problems it looks like the 12th | 18:59 |
| xgerman | yep | 18:59 |
| sc68cal | only got 30 minutes so let's get into the api spec review | 18:59 |
| xgerman | +1 | 18:59 |
| SridarK | +1 | 18:59 |
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| mickeys | +1 | 19:00 |
| mickeys | I see two technical issues where we do not yet have consensus: 1) source_ip_address, source_address_group, source_firewall_group, can more than one be specified with OR semantics? Or at most one can be specified? Same issue for destination | 19:02 |
| SridarK | mickeys: yes | 19:02 |
| xgerman | I think at most one would be ok | 19:03 |
| SridarK | also on the _firewall_group usage in rules - we are only picking the ports where the policy is bound to | 19:03 |
| SridarK | and the rules contained in them are effectively a no op ? | 19:03 |
| SridarK | them -> firewall_group | 19:04 |
| xgerman | yep, that is my understanding as well | 19:04 |
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| mickeys | SridarK: For firewall_group in firewall rules, it is essentially converted into a list of addresses corresponding to all the VM ports in that firewall_group | 19:05 |
| xgerman | though I can also see that we only let you use firewall_groups in that way which don’t have rules... | 19:05 |
| mickeys | Same thing as remote_security_group today | 19:05 |
| SridarK | mickeys: yes i see that we are trying to keep some symmetry to that model | 19:05 |
| sc68cal | I have a lot of concern about how complex this is all getting | 19:06 |
| jwarendt | +1 | 19:06 |
| SridarK | yes my concern on this part was also that | 19:06 |
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| sc68cal | Frankly I almost wonder if it would be worth investigating API microversioning so we start small and simple then start building more complexity later | 19:06 |
| sc68cal | because frankly we're already at M-1 and we've just been baking ever more complex interactions into this API. There is no code done. | 19:07 |
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| sc68cal | I mean I gave in on service_groups | 19:08 |
| xgerman | well, do you want us to start coding while the spec is bing negotiated? | 19:08 |
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| sc68cal | but now we're also going to handle firewall_groups and all these layers of indirection? | 19:08 |
| SridarK | sc68cal: agree - we really want to get something code wise out | 19:08 |
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| sc68cal | It's like - how much more advanced things are we going to pack into the firewall_rule object | 19:09 |
| mickeys | We discussed whether we need all of source_ip_address, source_address_group, and source_firewall_group. The consensus was to leave source_ip_address so that simple rules could be constructed, and to leave address group separate from (firewall) port group. This means more objects which can be perceived as more complexity. | 19:09 |
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| mickeys | Security groups today has some of this complexity in the form of remote_ip_prefix and remote_group_id | 19:11 |
| SridarK | i am fine with ip addresses and address groups - using the _firewall_groups - i guess is to keep some alignment with Sec Groups ? | 19:11 |
| SridarK | i think u answered my question | 19:12 |
| mickeys | address groups is new (not in security groups), but has been mentioned in the past by several people | 19:12 |
| xgerman | My preference is to close on that spec and then start coding… | 19:12 |
| xgerman | did we ever decide who will do the coding? | 19:12 |
| SridarK | i can definitely volunteer for some of the changes around the plugin changes | 19:13 |
| sc68cal | I am on hand to help as well - probably at the REST API layer if there are no objections | 19:13 |
| sc68cal | either that or the database model | 19:13 |
| xgerman | I can volunteer Aish, jwarendt, and myself | 19:13 |
| SridarK | ok | 19:14 |
| jwarendt | +1 | 19:14 |
| Aish | +1 | 19:14 |
| mickeys | I hope to clear up internal issues in the next couple of weeks, then I can volunteer, but I will need some ramp up time | 19:14 |
| badveli | sc68cal: is service groups in m-1 otherwise i can partly help with anything else | 19:15 |
| xgerman | well, m-1 got cut today so I think it will be in m-2 | 19:15 |
| SridarK | perhaps we are getting a bit ahead of ourselves - but we need someone to look at iptables interactions on the vm port side of things | 19:15 |
| mickeys | The ability to specify multiple firewall groups / policies on the same port has big implications, will lead to big changes in the reference implementation even for router ports | 19:16 |
| xgerman | yep, and we need to make sure with all those people that we have proper launchpad tasks/blueprints | 19:17 |
| mickeys | Depending how we resolve this, not sure if VM ports should leverage the router port implementation, the existing security group implementation, or start from scratch? | 19:17 |
| SridarK | mickeys: yes true for router ports as well - ip tables linkages will need some looking into | 19:17 |
| mickeys | As far as plugin and agent | 19:17 |
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| xgerman | ok, I think we have enough people to do the more ambitious API | 19:18 |
| SridarK | xgerman: i would play this more conservatively | 19:18 |
| SridarK | we can have folks look in to things but in terms what we get into M - it will be tight | 19:18 |
| SridarK | even UT's take significant time | 19:19 |
| SridarK | and we will have quite a bit dependencies on the base layer to get done | 19:19 |
| sc68cal | changing all this stuff without breaking UTs (which are all probably brittle as hell) is going to take a lot of time | 19:19 |
| mickeys | For API and DB, we probably have enough time. For reference implementation, we need to make some progress on a design before we really know what we are getting ourselves into | 19:19 |
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| SridarK | mickeys: we will need to have some basic reference implementation in | 19:20 |
| jwarendt | +1 | 19:21 |
| SridarK | perhaps we can ask for an exception but an API without a backing ref implementation is frowned upon in the community | 19:21 |
| mickeys | SridarK: Agreed. I think the basic structure of firewall groups, allowing multiple, similar to security groups, that is where the biggest chunk of implementation work will be. | 19:21 |
| mickeys | And adding VM ports. | 19:21 |
| SridarK | mickeys: or the risk - i am not as familiar with that part of the code - so some investigation there is needed | 19:22 |
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| sc68cal | that's going to take a lot of work, and that only just deals with the new binding of firewalls to ports. | 19:22 |
| sc68cal | all the new things we are adding to the firewall rule stuff is another big chunk of work | 19:23 |
| SridarK | mickeys: some of it could just be my paranoia on the iptables - someone with more knowledge there could have more clarity | 19:23 |
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| sc68cal | SridarK: I think that paranoia is justified | 19:23 |
| SridarK | sc68cal: +1 | 19:23 |
| * sc68cal is a PF user | 19:23 | |
| SridarK | :-) | 19:23 |
| mickeys | The basic code flow for security groups is quite different from FWaaS. FWaaS pushes all changes to the agent. Security groups notify all agents of changes, then agents pull what they need from the controller. If one firewall group changes but there are others on the same port, you need the contents of the other firewall groups to formulate the new iptables rules. | 19:23 |
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| sc68cal | mickeys: that was true - but I think recent changes have been moving to a push model for SG | 19:24 |
| sc68cal | not sure, but I though there was some work done to change that | 19:25 |
| sc68cal | could be wrong | 19:25 |
| mickeys | Firewall group plus IP address (prefix) is parity with security groups. That leaves address groups and service groups as candidates to be deferred. There is also the change to firewall rule to firewall policy binding, but adding that later scares me. | 19:25 |
| mickeys | sc68cal: I don't think that is changing. Kevin Benton's changes were inside the driver / iptables manager to only program the diff rather than replace everything | 19:26 |
| mickeys | Unless there is something else happening that I don't know about? | 19:26 |
| sc68cal | mickeys: ah ok no you are correct | 19:26 |
| sc68cal | I knew there was some sort of partial diff, but didn't know if it was RPC layer or just inside the agent - had hoped at RPC layer | 19:27 |
| mickeys | Not at RPC layer | 19:27 |
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| mickeys | The firewall rules / firewall policy binding is the other big technical issue in the spec, where we do not yet have consensus | 19:27 |
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| mickeys | Position or priority? | 19:28 |
| SridarK | the push vs notify + pull - btwn plugin and agent - is an area we need to revisit as well - we had the implementation for FW as the push - but we will need to adapt that to be in sync with others | 19:28 |
| sc68cal | right. | 19:29 |
| SridarK | it seems position is easier to implement | 19:29 |
| badveli | SridarK : yes and the iptables changes for binding of firewalls to ports | 19:29 |
| sc68cal | sadly we've got 30 seconds - let's continue in our IRC room | 19:29 |
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| sc68cal | #openstack-fwaas for those that don't know | 19:29 |
| sc68cal | anyway, until next week | 19:30 |
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| jwarendt | Thanks | 19:30 |
| SridarK | ok bye all | 19:30 |
| sc68cal | #endmeeting | 19:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:30 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 2 19:30:22 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-12-02-18.32.html | 19:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-12-02-18.32.txt | 19:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-12-02-18.32.log.html | 19:30 |
| badveli | bye | 19:30 |
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| david-lyle | #startmeeting Horizon | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 2 20:00:27 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is david-lyle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:00 |
| david-lyle | any horizoneers? | 20:00 |
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| mrunge | o/ | 20:00 |
| matt-borland | o/ | 20:00 |
| rhagarty | o/ | 20:00 |
| tsufiev | o/ | 20:01 |
| ducttape_ | o/ | 20:01 |
| bpokorny | Hi | 20:02 |
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| david-lyle | Let's start with M-1 | 20:03 |
| david-lyle | M-1 is due UTC tomorrow | 20:03 |
| david-lyle | so I'm attempting to read up on the new tagging procedure and make that happen | 20:04 |
| david-lyle | we should have an M-1 tomorrow | 20:04 |
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| david-lyle | next status | 20:04 |
| david-lyle | we have two versions of reality | 20:05 |
| tsufiev | just 2? | 20:05 |
| david-lyle | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/mitaka-1 | 20:05 |
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| david-lyle | and | 20:05 |
| david-lyle | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-horizon-priorities | 20:05 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | o/ | 20:06 |
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| david-lyle | launchpad is a view of what merged and etherpad is more for tracking | 20:07 |
| david-lyle | I guess | 20:07 |
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| david-lyle | since we're at M-1, I'd like to look at the priorities real quick | 20:08 |
| david-lyle | documentation is still inflight | 20:08 |
| david-lyle | at least one patch to review and some have merged | 20:08 |
| david-lyle | if there are more please update the list | 20:08 |
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| david-lyle | The angular work has a huge list of patches | 20:09 |
| david-lyle | with some merging, probably not as quickly as some would hope | 20:09 |
| matt-borland | yep | 20:09 |
| matt-borland | it's going pretty well | 20:09 |
| david-lyle | looks like progress to me | 20:09 |
| matt-borland | we've merged 20 angular patches since the summit | 20:10 |
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| david-lyle | the critical part of theming (documentation) was merged | 20:10 |
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| david-lyle | the dependencies dance continues | 20:10 |
| david-lyle | latest suggestion is setuptools_scm | 20:10 |
| david-lyle | which I have to read up on | 20:11 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yeah, the xstatic story continues | 20:11 |
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| david-lyle | act 17 in 403 act play | 20:11 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I'm working on a thing to publish xstatic using setuptools_scm instead of pbr, but we still need to get that tool through approval to be used | 20:11 |
| r1chardj0n3s | since it needs to be pre-loaded into the build system alongside pbr | 20:11 |
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| david-lyle | so simple | 20:12 |
| r1chardj0n3s | but that should hopefully be a lot easier than changing pbr | 20:12 |
| david-lyle | ok, that's promising | 20:12 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I like your optimism! | 20:12 |
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| tsufiev | r1chardj0n3s, does setuptools_scm have more active developers than pbr :)? | 20:13 |
| r1chardj0n3s | tsufiev: the benefit is we don't need to alter setuptools_scm | 20:13 |
| r1chardj0n3s | (or, hopefully, type it very much, since that's a lot to type ;-) | 20:13 |
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| david-lyle | sahara-dashboard now contains all the horizon sahara content \o/ (other than integration tests) | 20:14 |
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| david-lyle | I need to update patch to remove to get rid of integration tests | 20:14 |
| david-lyle | then it should pass python34 job | 20:14 |
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| david-lyle | any other high items people wanted to discuss? | 20:15 |
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| tsufiev | david-lyle, shall we wait until sahara-dashboard merges the integraiton tests before removing them from Horizon repo? | 20:15 |
| david-lyle | tsufiev: working on that, but yeah | 20:16 |
| tsufiev | david-lyle, ok, I'll prioritize this as well for myself | 20:16 |
| david-lyle | hence no update to the removal patch | 20:16 |
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| david-lyle | some go_to method magic is slowing me down now | 20:16 |
| david-lyle | ok, moving on | 20:17 |
| bpokorny | I think this one is ready to go: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196328/ | 20:17 |
| bpokorny | Unless anyone still has concerns on it. | 20:17 |
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| tsufiev | david-lyle, yep, it's magic indeed :/ | 20:18 |
| david-lyle | bpokorny: I'm close to pulling the trigger on that one | 20:18 |
| bpokorny | Sounds good. Thanks, david-lyle. | 20:18 |
| david-lyle | then we'll release d-o-a | 20:18 |
| bpokorny | Great | 20:18 |
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| david-lyle | Remaining general item is Midcycle | 20:19 |
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| david-lyle | I failed to post a survey for dates and locations | 20:19 |
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| david-lyle | anyone with extra time and a driving interest that wants to take that on? I'm happy to work with them, or I'll try to get it up this week | 20:20 |
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| mrunge | david-lyle, just the post to mailing list, or is there more to do? | 20:21 |
| david-lyle | creating the survey | 20:21 |
| mrunge | so do we already have proposals? | 20:22 |
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| Piet | I don't mind creating a survey for ya'll | 20:22 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: we have several willing sites, just need dates | 20:22 |
| Piet | What are the sites? | 20:22 |
| mrunge | Piet already offered, but I can do too | 20:22 |
| david-lyle | or if a europe midcycle is on the table, we'd need to find a site for that | 20:23 |
| Piet | Intel could potentially host in London | 20:23 |
| tsufiev | interesting... | 20:24 |
| david-lyle | Piet, I'll work with you offline | 20:24 |
| Piet | They already offered to host the UX mid-cycle if you want to dovetail | 20:24 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | I could also help with the survey side of things if extra hands are needed | 20:24 |
| david-lyle | I think more hands than mine are needed :) | 20:24 |
| r1chardj0n3s | so first we need a call for locations, just so we're clear who is offering to host | 20:25 |
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| Piet | If you have locations/dates it shouldn't take me more than thirty minutes in google forms | 20:25 |
| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s, Piet: I have a list of several locations | 20:25 |
| david-lyle | the london bit is new thought | 20:26 |
| david-lyle | *though | 20:26 |
| Piet | Another potential would be to host at IBM's design center in Austin | 20:26 |
| david-lyle | Let's take it offline, maybe after this meeting | 20:26 |
| Piet | k | 20:26 |
| r1chardj0n3s | k | 20:26 |
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| david-lyle | Last general items, I've proposed a couple of new horizon cores on the mailing list. | 20:27 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | thanks, david-lyle :-) | 20:27 |
| tsufiev | david-lyle, thanks :) | 20:28 |
| Piet | I have one other thing | 20:28 |
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| david-lyle | The agenda for today was blank, so | 20:28 |
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| david-lyle | #topic general discussion | 20:28 |
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| david-lyle | go Piet | 20:28 |
| Piet | UX Cores please review and - 2 / +2 https://invis.io/VU550E82R | 20:28 |
| Piet | Uhhhh one other thing | 20:29 |
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| Piet | As you know, I will be moving to Intel on Monday | 20:29 |
| r1chardj0n3s | (I didn't know, congrats Piet!) | 20:29 |
| mrunge | congrats Piet | 20:29 |
| Piet | In the meantime, pkruithofjr <@> gmail.com | 20:30 |
| tsufiev | Piet, congrats, good luck in the new company! | 20:30 |
| Piet | Yeah, I lucked out because they didn't ask David about me | 20:30 |
| david-lyle | #truestory | 20:30 |
| tsufiev | Piet, david-lyle are you going to work in the same room :)? | 20:30 |
| mrunge | pffft | 20:31 |
| rhagarty | out of the blue question.. is anyone aware of a plug-in that adds actions to a core horizon table WITHOUT the use of an overrides file? | 20:31 |
| Piet | The change will allow me to focus more on the community and choose where I focus (like the Swift panel...) | 20:31 |
| r1chardj0n3s | \o/ swift panel | 20:31 |
| neillc | looking forward to your input :) | 20:32 |
| Piet | tsufiev Not sure I want to work at David's house | 20:32 |
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| tsufiev | Piet, oh, didn't know that | 20:32 |
| Piet | tsufiev would like to rent a small studio downtown Fort Collins | 20:33 |
| mrunge | rhagarty, not that I'm aware of | 20:33 |
| mrunge | rhagarty, I'd think that's impossible | 20:33 |
| doug-fish | rhagarty: I don't think we have that capability yet, I expect it to happen for angular based code, something like the workflow extensibility that we've recently introduced | 20:34 |
| * david-lyle back | 20:34 | |
| david-lyle | rhagarty: no way to do that now other than override the view/table in your plugin | 20:35 |
| rhagarty | thanks... just afraid of my plug-in colliding with another "overrides" plug-in | 20:36 |
| doug-fish | I'm afraid that fear is justified | 20:36 |
| david-lyle | rhagarty: well not overrides | 20:36 |
| doug-fish | we really do need the better solution | 20:36 |
| david-lyle | you can define the view and table to inherit from the existing and merely override the column | 20:37 |
| david-lyle | and have your panel displayed rather than the default | 20:37 |
| doug-fish | problem is if two overrides try to do that | 20:37 |
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| rhagarty | david-lyle, maybe I can ping you on this later? | 20:38 |
| doug-fish | and that's likely to happen on instances and quotas especially | 20:38 |
| david-lyle | rhagarty: sure | 20:38 |
| david-lyle | look at the admin view for images as an example | 20:38 |
| david-lyle | but feel free to ping me | 20:39 |
| rhagarty | thanks | 20:39 |
| david-lyle | any other topics today? | 20:40 |
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| rhagarty | GB vs GiB issue? | 20:42 |
| david-lyle | ah yes | 20:42 |
| rhagarty | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243880/ | 20:42 |
| * david-lyle was looking for that | 20:43 | |
| rhagarty | Cinder wants this, other projects don't feel the urgency | 20:43 |
| rhagarty | which leads to inconsistencies | 20:43 |
| matt-borland | yeah, it's an important distinction | 20:43 |
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| rhagarty | especially on Nova panels that display block storage data | 20:43 |
| david-lyle | rhagarty: the APIs return bytes, no? | 20:44 |
| rhagarty | still working through the issues with multiple patches and bugs | 20:44 |
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| rhagarty | gigabytes or gibibytes? | 20:45 |
| matt-borland | rhagarty, I'd thought we don't get bytes for several of those calls | 20:46 |
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| mrunge | uhm, what is returned, when cinder is disabled? | 20:46 |
| matt-borland | which is part of why people were confused | 20:46 |
| * tsufiev just found out that gibibyte = 2^30 bytes | 20:46 | |
| tsufiev | a new thing here every day ) | 20:46 |
| matt-borland | :) | 20:46 |
| rhagarty | there are inconsistencies | 20:46 |
| r1chardj0n3s | 2^30?? that's odd :-) | 20:46 |
| rhagarty | anyway, just wanted to let everyone know we are working on it... | 20:47 |
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| matt-borland | thanks for getting that together rhagarty | 20:47 |
| david-lyle | rhagarty: so the nova api returns values in GB? | 20:47 |
| david-lyle | still confused | 20:47 |
| mrunge | rhagarty, yes, exactly my question | 20:48 |
| david-lyle | why is it not storing the # of bytes | 20:48 |
| david-lyle | then the UI formats however we want | 20:48 |
| mrunge | the api we're talking to looks like the same, but returns different values? | 20:48 |
| rhagarty | still trying to determine, working with them now | 20:48 |
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| david-lyle | should all be bytes | 20:48 |
| rhagarty | cinder had this same issue... api was saying GB but stored GiB | 20:48 |
| david-lyle | so the API was returning GiB units? | 20:49 |
| rhagarty | yes | 20:49 |
| david-lyle | why would it do that? | 20:49 |
| tsufiev | omg | 20:49 |
| matt-borland | yep | 20:49 |
| SergeyLukjanov | sorry folks, I've just seen question from tsufiev about removing sahara code from Horizon, IMO it should be done after all tests will working (and after M-1 released) | 20:49 |
| rhagarty | we had a big customer complaim.. | 20:49 |
| tsufiev | we should tell the holy cross-project API inquisition group | 20:49 |
| david-lyle | nobody expects the holy cross-project API inquisition group | 20:50 |
| matt-borland | lol | 20:50 |
| david-lyle | SergeyLukjanov: agreed | 20:50 |
| r1chardj0n3s | heh | 20:50 |
| SergeyLukjanov | david-lyle, ack, thx! | 20:50 |
| david-lyle | I could see the client formatting bytes to GiB, but why the API | 20:51 |
| david-lyle | oh well | 20:51 |
| rhagarty | mrunge, answer to question above - LVM default reference returns GiB | 20:52 |
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| david-lyle | rhagarty: oh so it's just reporting on, starting to make more sense | 20:52 |
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| mrunge | rhagarty, my concern is more like: we can not influence that, and it would be benificial for us, if we just could have bytes | 20:54 |
| mrunge | and format it to our needs | 20:54 |
| mrunge | it'd be the same for all other api's | 20:54 |
| rhagarty | but Cinder API is very explicit with GiBs, so we should reflect that in our UI | 20:55 |
| matt-borland | yeah, the unit of measure is just reported wrong right now | 20:55 |
| rhagarty | and storage admins know the difference | 20:55 |
| matt-borland | it's not about changing how the data is passed, we know the value, it's just the wrong label. | 20:56 |
| rhagarty | correct, sorry that wasn't more clear | 20:56 |
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| rhagarty | confusion comes with Nova panels - investigating that now | 20:57 |
| david-lyle | ok, keep us posted | 20:57 |
| rhagarty | will do... sorry for the tangent | 20:57 |
| david-lyle | it's good to get people more aware of what you're trying to do and why | 20:58 |
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| david-lyle | other than you like 'i' | 20:58 |
| mrunge | reading through the patch, does it make sense to wait until all values are changed rhagarty ? | 20:58 |
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| mrunge | you mentioned quotas and defaults? | 20:58 |
| rhagarty | mrunge, that could take awhile. Was hoping to get smaller incremental patches so stakeholders could review | 20:59 |
| mrunge | do we have a tracker? | 20:59 |
| david-lyle | if the data is GiB anyway, what's the harm in correcting it as many places as we can? | 21:00 |
| mrunge | merging the patch will have horizon semi fixed and a bit inconsistent? | 21:00 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: but it's all wrong now | 21:00 |
| r1chardj0n3s | mrunge: but *correct* | 21:00 |
| mrunge | now it's consistently wring | 21:00 |
| doug-fish | I'm concerned about changing only some parts to use GiB for storage because I think it implies that if we label storage as GB elsewhere that we are correct | 21:00 |
| * david-lyle not seeing the upside to consistently wrong | 21:01 | |
| mrunge | wrong, when it's semi fixed, you don't know if it's right or wrong | 21:01 |
| rhagarty | david-lyle, maybe we can take this up after meeting? | 21:01 |
| david-lyle | sure | 21:01 |
| david-lyle | time's up | 21:01 |
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| david-lyle | Thanks everyone. Have a great week! | 21:01 |
| david-lyle | #endmeeting | 21:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 2 21:01:44 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-12-02-20.00.html | 21:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-12-02-20.00.txt | 21:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-12-02-20.00.log.html | 21:01 |
| tsufiev | bye! | 21:01 |
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| mrunge | thanks! | 21:02 |
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