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| PaulMurray | #startmeeting Nova Live Migration | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 8 14:00:35 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is PaulMurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_live_migration' | 14:00 |
| eliqiao | o/ | 14:00 |
| davidgiluk | o/ | 14:00 |
| jlanoux | o/ | 14:00 |
| andrearosa | hello | 14:00 |
| PaulMurray | Who is here? | 14:00 |
| alex_xu | o/ | 14:00 |
| paul-carlton2 | o/ | 14:00 |
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| PaulMurray | Just wait a minute as usual | 14:01 |
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| mdbooth | o/ | 14:01 |
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| PaulMurray | ok - lets start | 14:02 |
| PaulMurray | The agenda is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaLiveMigration | 14:02 |
| PaulMurray | #link Specs status | 14:02 |
| PaulMurray | We have passed the deadline | 14:03 |
| PaulMurray | and we have eight merged as I count | 14:03 |
| alex_xu | yeah~ \o/ | 14:03 |
| PaulMurray | See bottom of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-live-migration | 14:03 |
| PaulMurray | for a list | 14:03 |
| PaulMurray | Well done to everyone who got something in | 14:03 |
| PaulMurray | Now a reminder that we are soon going to be half way through the cycle | 14:04 |
| PaulMurray | so lets get the code done | 14:04 |
| PaulMurray | #link CI status | 14:05 |
| PaulMurray | I don't think I see anyone here for CI | 14:05 |
| PaulMurray | jlanoux, unless you know anything? | 14:05 |
| * alex_xu added item to spec status, looks like missed | 14:05 | |
| jlanoux | PaulMurray: Nope, didn't hear anything from Timofey | 14:05 |
| PaulMurray | ok - the experimenta job is there, so do feel free to use 'check experimental' | 14:06 |
| PaulMurray | on patches to run it | 14:06 |
| PaulMurray | #topic Bugs | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:06 | |
| * PaulMurray just realised he was using link instead of topic... | 14:06 | |
| PaulMurray | I wondered if there is something we can do to organise bug work | 14:07 |
| PaulMurray | (or should be doing) | 14:07 |
| PaulMurray | eliqiao, your name was mentioned to me as someone who is involved in bugs - is that right? | 14:07 |
| eliqiao | PaulMurray: yes | 14:08 |
| eliqiao | PaulMurray: previously, I have some bugs assigned. | 14:08 |
| PaulMurray | are you involved in the collaboration between intel and rackspace on this? | 14:08 |
| eliqiao | PaulMurray: yes, most of the bug tracked are in a google sheet | 14:09 |
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| eliqiao | link is in the bottom of our live-migration etherpad | 14:09 |
| PaulMurray | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19MFatOpjePS4JtkVHXCh6Qa8XUf6T2t0Igy1PucZ3Zk/edit#gid=2127877307 | 14:10 |
| PaulMurray | that one ^^ ? | 14:10 |
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| eliqiao | yes | 14:10 |
| eliqiao | I haven't review for some time | 14:10 |
| PaulMurray | is there anything we can do to help? | 14:10 |
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| eliqiao | PaulMurray: not sure, I will review them tomorrow and update the list to see if we can do something | 14:11 |
| PaulMurray | I wondered if there is something like a trivial bug list we could start on our etherpad | 14:12 |
| PaulMurray | Maybe we can talk about it later | 14:12 |
| eliqiao | some are 'dead' bug, in status incompelete. | 14:13 |
| eliqiao | we could do a cleanup | 14:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | just wondering if we can get the bug status into launchpad? | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | I see we have quite a few, and some seem related to blueprints we have approved: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=live-migration | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am sure markus_z would be happy to see some movement on those :) | 14:14 |
| PaulMurray | eliqiao, how up to date is your spreadsheet? | 14:14 |
| eliqiao | PaulMurray: I have Status last checked coluem in the list | 14:15 |
| eliqiao | from Mar to Aug | 14:15 |
| PaulMurray | I see | 14:15 |
| alex_xu | +1 for updae to launchpad | 14:15 |
| eliqiao | johnthetubaguy: sure, we can update it to lanuchpad, this is a public doc. | 14:15 |
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| PaulMurray | The bugs are lined from our meeting page at this url: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=live-migration+ | 14:17 |
| PaulMurray | Same for untriaged bugs | 14:17 |
| PaulMurray | it would be good if we could get some momentum around keeping it up to date and getting through them | 14:17 |
| PaulMurray | Maybe we could have a session on that | 14:17 |
| PaulMurray | I know there are a few people around who would be able to take some on | 14:18 |
| eliqiao | +1, it would be a good start on live-mgraiton bug fixing. | 14:18 |
| PaulMurray | If you guys have been organising them already it would be great to get your help with getting it all up to date | 14:19 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, lets keep this in launchpad if we can | 14:19 |
| PaulMurray | eliqiao, If its ok with you I'll get in touch later and we can sort it out | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | its not awesome, but everyone knows where it is | 14:19 |
| eliqiao | PaulMurray: sure, okay | 14:20 |
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| PaulMurray | #action PaulMurray to talk to eliqiao about updating bugs | 14:20 |
| PaulMurray | #topic Open reviews | 14:20 |
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| PaulMurray | So now specs are done the main focus is reviews | 14:21 |
| PaulMurray | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227278/ | 14:21 |
| PaulMurray | Anyone here can comment on this one ^^ | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | seeing the good list of patches here: | 14:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:22 |
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| PaulMurray | i know the authors are not here.... | 14:22 |
| PaulMurray | But I wanted to bring that series up | 14:23 |
| PaulMurray | The next I wanted to highlight was ndipanov's series | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | so in terms of priority are you happy with what the blueprints have got right now? | 14:23 |
| PaulMurray | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bug/1417667,n,z | 14:23 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, yes | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | I made that series above high priority, as it seems one of the most important ones | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | cools | 14:24 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, most of the blueprints have code yet to be done | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: agreed | 14:24 |
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| PaulMurray | so I wanted to encourage people to get reviews done on the code that is sitting there | 14:24 |
| PaulMurray | and hopefully get it out the way | 14:24 |
| PaulMurray | ndipanov's series above has a few trivial patches with lots of reviews and one non-trivial one with almost no reviews | 14:25 |
| PaulMurray | So if anyone has time please do have a go at it. We can move it on to core reviewers when someone has had a look | 14:26 |
| PaulMurray | This next one was added to the agenda today: | 14:26 |
| PaulMurray | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215483/ - Set migration status to 'error' on live-migration failure | 14:26 |
| ankit | Hi PaulMurray, ndipanov: My colleague "Rajesh Tailor" had requested to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215483/ earlier | 14:26 |
| ankit | Could you please revisit it and add your opinion on the patch ^ | 14:27 |
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| PaulMurray | ankit, I had a look at it today and talked briefly to ndipanov who also commented | 14:27 |
| PaulMurray | his feeling was that the security fix it is related to was not very well done | 14:27 |
| PaulMurray | so he does like the idea of more code relying on it | 14:28 |
| ankit | PaulMurray: Could you please add your concerns on the patch | 14:29 |
| PaulMurray | I think that issue needs to be addressed - maybe dansmith or alaski could comment too | 14:29 |
| PaulMurray | I will add that comment and lets see if we can get a wider | 14:29 |
| ankit | PaulMurray: Thanks | 14:29 |
| PaulMurray | review from people who are familiar with the previous patch | 14:29 |
| PaulMurray | Is there anything else anyone wants to bring up | 14:30 |
| alex_xu | PaulMurray: yea, I added one | 14:30 |
| PaulMurray | alex_xu, do you have a link? | 14:30 |
| alex_xu | just bring some discussion from api meeting to here, I think it's good for people to know at here | 14:30 |
| alex_xu | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/mitaka/approved/live-migration-progress-report.html | 14:30 |
| alex_xu | it's thanks to johnthetubaguy point it out. same as the pause/abort instance, we only add new thing to /servers/{id}/migrations, not the /migrations one | 14:31 |
| alex_xu | And there is agreement on the api meeting for updating this spec, to add new field to severs' subresource migrations | 14:32 |
| paul-carlton2 | but the new fields would still be added to migrations data model? | 14:32 |
| alex_xu | paul-carlton2: yes, but we can filter it out for /migrations | 14:33 |
| paul-carlton2 | otherwise the GET /servers/{id}/migrations would need to do sync call to compute | 14:33 |
| paul-carlton2 | good | 14:33 |
| eliqiao | alex_xu what the command line for python-novalcient to call GET /servers/{id}/migrations ? | 14:34 |
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| eliqiao | new CLI? | 14:34 |
| alex_xu | eliqiao: good point | 14:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, there will have to be a new CLI I suspect | 14:34 |
| alex_xu | eliqiao: maybe servers-migration? | 14:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 14:34 |
| eliqiao | servers-migration ? not server-migration ? | 14:35 |
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| alex_xu | eliqiao: emm...maybe server-migrations, I will put that detail in the spec | 14:35 |
| eliqiao | alex_xu: get you. thanks | 14:36 |
| PaulMurray | alex_xu, you also mentioned API docs in IRC the other day | 14:36 |
| alex_xu | anyway I will take care that spec updated, and flush out all the detail. | 14:36 |
| PaulMurray | alex_xu, do you need anything? | 14:36 |
| paul-carlton2 | migration is better, the plan is for it only to return active migrations which should only be one of | 14:36 |
| alex_xu | PaulMurray: yes, thanks, today and tomorrow is api doc sprint | 14:37 |
| eliqiao | actually, I am worry about the data in table migrations , won't that be lots of query data? | 14:37 |
| alex_xu | appreciate people can help on our api doc, and there is etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-v2.1-api-doc to track the tasks | 14:37 |
| mdbooth | eliqiao: Explain. What is your specific concern? | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, lets get that in the spec revision | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | PS the revision doesn't require an exception or anything messy like that, we can just merge that | 14:37 |
| eliqiao | okay, :) | 14:38 |
| PaulMurray | alex_xu, what's the format for the docs sprint - just pick something off the list etherpad ? | 14:39 |
| alex_xu | PaulMurray: yeh, we have two API docs need updated, one is API concept doc, it is under the https://github.com/openstack/nova/tree/master/api-guide/source | 14:39 |
| PaulMurray | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-v2.1-api-doc - docs sprint etherpad | 14:40 |
| alex_xu | people can find 'TODO' in those doc, and fre to take it. | 14:40 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/complete-todo-in-api-concept-doc,n,z | 14:40 |
| alex_xu | and check this link, if there is one already done by others | 14:40 |
| alex_xu | another doc is api-ref, the tasks of api-ref already listed in the etherpad | 14:41 |
| PaulMurray | #help anyone free for live migration stuff in docs sprint see above links | 14:41 |
| alex_xu | also just free to check any part of doc, if you found something old and incorrect, then fix it! | 14:41 |
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| alex_xu | PaulMurray: thanks! | 14:41 |
| PaulMurray | alex_xu, ok - not sure how many people are around, but I will take a look | 14:41 |
| alex_xu | PaulMurray: pretty thanks | 14:42 |
| * PaulMurray has xmas lunch most of tomorrow | 14:42 | |
| alex_xu | free to contact me if you have any question on doc sprint | 14:42 |
| PaulMurray | I think we are done - any last minute quesitons? | 14:42 |
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| eliqiao | PaulMurray: have a question on how to bring attention to review live-migration bp patches | 14:43 |
| eliqiao | PaulMurray: shall we add patch link to etherpad and call for others to do review? | 14:43 |
| alex_xu | eliqiao: put in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:43 |
| PaulMurray | there is a review tracking page | 14:43 |
| PaulMurray | ^^ that's it | 14:43 |
| eliqiao | PaulMurray: alex_xu thank you | 14:44 |
| PaulMurray | Put links on the list under live migration on that page | 14:44 |
| PaulMurray | There is a subteam section and a core section | 14:44 |
| PaulMurray | the idea is subteam reviews first so we don't both cores with simple fixes | 14:44 |
| PaulMurray | then it gets moved up to cores | 14:45 |
| eliqiao | just pull under section "Live-Migration" , right ? | 14:45 |
| PaulMurray | yes | 14:45 |
| PaulMurray | I try to keep an eye on them and do some house keeping | 14:45 |
| eliqiao | PaulMurray: get it . thanks :-) | 14:45 |
| PaulMurray | eliqiao, thanks | 14:45 |
| PaulMurray | ok - I think we are done now | 14:46 |
| PaulMurray | Thank you all for coming | 14:46 |
| PaulMurray | #endmeeting | 14:46 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 8 14:46:31 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2015/nova_live_migration.2015-12-08-14.00.html | 14:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2015/nova_live_migration.2015-12-08-14.00.txt | 14:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2015/nova_live_migration.2015-12-08-14.00.log.html | 14:46 |
| alex_xu | thanks all | 14:46 |
| eliqiao | bye guys | 14:46 |
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| devkulkarni | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 8 17:00:21 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 17:00 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Roll Call | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 17:00 | |
| devkulkarni | Devdatta Kulkarni | 17:00 |
| ashishjain | Ashish Jain | 17:00 |
| devkulkarni | hi ashish.. | 17:00 |
| devkulkarni | I see datsun180b around too | 17:00 |
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| datsun180b | I'm here all right | 17:01 |
| ashishjain | Hi dev | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar is going to bit late | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | hi datsun180b | 17:01 |
| datsun180b | just looking at the agenda and the reviews needing approval | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b: cool.. | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2015-12-08_1700_UTC | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | that is our agenda | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | I think I saw james_li around too | 17:02 |
| ashishjain | the patch "https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250020/" looks fine to me I have used it and it works | 17:02 |
| ashishjain | have provided my comments as well on it. | 17:02 |
| james_li | james li | 17:02 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: thanks for verifying | 17:02 |
| devkulkarni | hi james_li | 17:02 |
| james_li | hi devkulkarni | 17:02 |
| devkulkarni | looks like you also are on top of the patches needing one more +2 | 17:03 |
| devkulkarni | awesome | 17:03 |
| james_li | just approved a doc change | 17:03 |
| devkulkarni | james_li: nice.. yeah we got couple of folks submitting the doc change patches | 17:03 |
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| james_li | yeah | 17:04 |
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| devkulkarni | #topic Announcements | 17:04 |
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| devkulkarni | I don't have any prepared announcements | 17:04 |
| devkulkarni | Any of you have any announcements? .. will wait for 30 seconds before proceeding | 17:05 |
| datsun180b | Not from me | 17:05 |
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| devkulkarni | alright.. moving on to next topic | 17:06 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Review Action Item | 17:06 |
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| devkulkarni | I had one action item which I just remembered | 17:06 |
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| ashishjain | ya readthedocs | 17:06 |
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| ashishjain | related | 17:06 |
| devkulkarni | yes, that one and one more | 17:07 |
| devkulkarni | I removed the readthedocs action item as I have been just carrying it forward for quite a while | 17:07 |
| ashishjain | hmmm was it a question on tag I asked sometime back? | 17:07 |
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| devkulkarni | ashishjain: could you refresh my memory on it.. the action item was to send a note to openstack-dev mailing list that our meeting on December 29th is cancelled | 17:08 |
| ashishjain | diverse-affiliation | 17:08 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: oh that's right | 17:08 |
| ashishjain | :) | 17:08 |
| devkulkarni | let me take both of those action items again | 17:08 |
| devkulkarni | #action devkulkarni to figure out details about diverse-affiliation tag associated with solum. | 17:09 |
| devkulkarni | #action devkulkarni to send a note to openstack-dev mailing list that our meeting on December 29th is cancelled | 17:09 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion | 17:10 |
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| devkulkarni | We have four top-level items to discuss today | 17:11 |
| devkulkarni | 1) Patch(es) needing one more +2 | 17:11 |
| james_li | done! | 17:11 |
| devkulkarni | probably all the patches are done | 17:11 |
| datsun180b | they are | 17:11 |
| devkulkarni | james_li: awesome!! | 17:11 |
| devkulkarni | james_li, datsun180b: cool | 17:12 |
| james_li | devkulkarni: sure | 17:12 |
| devkulkarni | all the new contributors are going to be happy :) | 17:12 |
| ashishjain | james_li: just saw your comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254344/ | 17:12 |
| devkulkarni | 2) Patch(es) needing discussion | 17:12 |
| devkulkarni | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254344/ | 17:12 |
| devkulkarni | this is the same patch as listed by ashishjain above | 17:13 |
| ashishjain | Why I have removed this code is as the assembly is already being removed this code snippet "objects.registry.Workflow.destroy(app_id)" | 17:13 |
| ashishjain | and the idea was to first remove all the stacks and than go about cleaning apps, assemblies, plans, workflows | 17:14 |
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| devkulkarni | ashishjain: you mean in line 313? | 17:14 |
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| james_li | but is destroy_assembly() is called anywhere else? | 17:14 |
| ashishjain | Talking about 213 & 236 now Yes same reason is applicable to line number 313 as well | 17:15 |
| devkulkarni | james_li: in line 310 | 17:15 |
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| ashishjain | james_li : in line 310 in the new code | 17:15 |
| james_li | I know. i meant you changed destroy_assembly(), but is it called anywhere other than destroy_app()? | 17:16 |
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| devkulkarni | good point james_li | 17:16 |
| ashishjain | james_li: that is a valid point | 17:17 |
| devkulkarni | searching through the code, it looks like destroy_assembly is getting called only from destroy_app | 17:18 |
| devkulkarni | although let me check if destroy_assembly was part of the public interface of the deployer | 17:19 |
| devkulkarni | actually it is :( | 17:19 |
| devkulkarni | look at the deployer/noop.py | 17:20 |
| ashishjain | james_li: yeah searching through the code it just being called by assembly_handler | 17:20 |
| james_li | thanks for verification | 17:20 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: we want to deprecate assembly_handler eventually | 17:20 |
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| devkulkarni | so it is probably okay if we modify the destroy assembly method the way you are doing it | 17:21 |
| ashishjain | devkulkarni: you mean it is deployer/handlers/noop.py | 17:21 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: yes | 17:21 |
| ashishjain | devkulkarni: But is the destroy_assembly being called from here? | 17:22 |
| ashishjain | I am sorry but am I missing something here? | 17:23 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: as you just noted, destroy_assembly is called from assembly_handler. Eventually we are planning to deprecate assembly abstraction | 17:23 |
| devkulkarni | but right now it is still there | 17:24 |
| devkulkarni | so I was wondering if there is a real necessity to remove call to assem.destroy from the exception handlers? | 17:24 |
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| devkulkarni | we could leave those calls there and remove them when we get rid of assembly abstraction | 17:25 |
| ashishjain | devkulkarni: actually no & yes | 17:25 |
| ashishjain | devkulkarni: line no 313 fails because of exception | 17:26 |
| ashishjain | because we try to remove assembly again and this approached seemed better | 17:26 |
| ashishjain | but as you said I will revert it back | 17:26 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: I see.. | 17:26 |
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| ashishjain | and instead break this call in line no 313 "objects.registry.Workflow.destroy(app_id)" into multiple lines of code so that we just remove plan & workflow here | 17:27 |
| ashishjain | and not assembly | 17:27 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: let me quickly look at workflow.destroy | 17:27 |
| ashishjain | devkulkarni:thanks | 17:28 |
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| devkulkarni | ashishjain: ok.. so workflow.destroy is destroying everything, which is good | 17:29 |
| devkulkarni | lets not break it up | 17:29 |
| ashishjain | yeah that was the point | 17:29 |
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| ashishjain | than ? | 17:29 |
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| devkulkarni | I like the way you have line 313 right now | 17:29 |
| devkulkarni | it is calling workflow.destroy which is going to destroy everything | 17:30 |
| ashishjain | okay than we need to remove line number 236 & 213, | 17:30 |
| devkulkarni | actually, I just wanted to discuss/debate that part | 17:30 |
| devkulkarni | oh nm | 17:31 |
| devkulkarni | is workflow.destroy also destroying heat stack? | 17:31 |
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| ashishjain | no it just removes entries from DB | 17:32 |
| devkulkarni | ok, yes I just verified that | 17:32 |
| ashishjain | line number 310 is taking care of it | 17:32 |
| devkulkarni | in that case, the question that I have is, if we don't remove lines 236 and 213, what will happen? | 17:33 |
| devkulkarni | I think it will be alright since those lines are part of the exception handling code | 17:33 |
| devkulkarni | we can remove those lines when we eventually deprecate the assembly abstraction | 17:34 |
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| ashishjain | If we do not remove lines 213 & 236 there will another call made using Workflow.destroy to remove the entries from the db whcih will eventually hit an exception | 17:35 |
| ashishjain | not sure if that part of the code has got exception handling | 17:35 |
| devkulkarni | ok, let me check | 17:35 |
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| ashishjain | checked it has got | 17:35 |
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| ashishjain | aah but there is an issue | 17:36 |
| ashishjain | the code execution will move out of the loop very first time it hits an exception while deleting assembly and hence will not remove any further entries | 17:37 |
| ashishjain | moreover it will not remove any entries for plan as well | 17:37 |
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| devkulkarni | you mean in workflow.destroy method | 17:37 |
| ashishjain | yes correct | 17:38 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: ok, it is now clear to me that we do need to remove lines 212 and 236 | 17:38 |
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| ashishjain | devkulkarni: thanks for your review | 17:39 |
| devkulkarni | james_li, ashishjain: I will add my comment to the patch | 17:39 |
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| ashishjain | sure, I have modified the unit test cases as well per the patch | 17:40 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: thanks | 17:40 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: if we don't want to remove those two lines then your suggestion is to modify Workflow.destroy method | 17:41 |
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| devkulkarni | to add exception handler around each delete call, right? | 17:41 |
| ashishjain | devkulkarni: yes that would be the way forward I guess | 17:42 |
| ashishjain | but that does not seem to be an elegant solution | 17:42 |
| devkulkarni | thinking/debating | 17:42 |
| devkulkarni | yes, agree to that | 17:42 |
| devkulkarni | just thinking if we can somehow not modify the semantics of destroy_assembly method | 17:43 |
| ashishjain | agreed | 17:43 |
| devkulkarni | can't think of a way right away | 17:44 |
| devkulkarni | if I think of something, I will add it to the comment | 17:44 |
| devkulkarni | otherwise, we can move forward with the approach that you have | 17:45 |
| ashishjain | can we | 17:45 |
| devkulkarni | cool.. great discussion | 17:45 |
| ashishjain | modify the assembly_handler code to accomodate | 17:45 |
| ashishjain | the assembly details removal from DB | 17:45 |
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| ashishjain | anyways it would be sunset in sometime | 17:46 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: true about sunset | 17:46 |
| ashishjain | and keep the bes possible solution for our apps & workflow | 17:46 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: about modifying assembly_handler.. we cannot do that since we want to destroy an assembly only after the heat stack is deleted | 17:47 |
| devkulkarni | and deletion of heat stack happens in deployer | 17:47 |
| ashishjain | aah okay | 17:47 |
| ashishjain | got it | 17:47 |
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| devkulkarni | agree about keeping the solution forward looking | 17:47 |
| ashishjain | I was also facing similar problem and thats why had to move all the code to deployer about removal from db tables | 17:47 |
| devkulkarni | yep | 17:47 |
| devkulkarni | that is exactly the reason why we cannot delete db rows directly from workflow handler | 17:48 |
| devkulkarni | alright.. let me jump ahead to the spec on micro-service architecture | 17:48 |
| ashishjain | one last point | 17:49 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: sure | 17:49 |
| ashishjain | can we in any way figure out if the call emanate from assembly_handler or app_handler | 17:49 |
| ashishjain | no I think | 17:49 |
| devkulkarni | we could by modifying one of them to add a header/flag to context | 17:50 |
| devkulkarni | and then checking the context for that flag | 17:50 |
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| devkulkarni | were you thinking of using that as a hint of whether to delete an assembly or not? | 17:51 |
| ashishjain | yeah correct | 17:51 |
| devkulkarni | that could work | 17:51 |
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| devkulkarni | but seems like too much of work for something that we are not going to support in the long term | 17:51 |
| ashishjain | I agree with you on this | 17:51 |
| ashishjain | so you can probably suggest what could be best | 17:51 |
| devkulkarni | good idea though | 17:51 |
| devkulkarni | the best course is what you have currently | 17:52 |
| ashishjain | and I will try to implement it | 17:52 |
| ashishjain | thanks | 17:52 |
| devkulkarni | let me add a comment in reply to james_li's comment about why we need to remove those lines | 17:52 |
| devkulkarni | that way there will be a record | 17:52 |
| ashishjain | okay | 17:52 |
| devkulkarni | I will also link today's chat transcripts with it | 17:53 |
| devkulkarni | alright.. | 17:53 |
| devkulkarni | we have only few minutes remaining | 17:53 |
| ashishjain | and we got lots to discuss I guess | 17:53 |
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| devkulkarni | yeah.. we can do that in solum channel tomorrow and throughout the week.. | 17:54 |
| devkulkarni | for datsun180b and james_li: want to get your attention on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254729/ and https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1517588 | 17:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1517588 in Solum "delete-heat-stack-when-app-is-deleted" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Ashish (ashish-jain14) | 17:54 |
| devkulkarni | let me quickly give brief summary on both | 17:55 |
| devkulkarni | the first review is of a spec which outlines how to add support for multi-service applications in solum | 17:55 |
| devkulkarni | I have outlined requirements, approach, etc. | 17:55 |
| james_li | ncie | 17:55 |
| james_li | nice | 17:55 |
| devkulkarni | james_li, datsun180b: yep.. whenever you get a chance, please review the spec | 17:56 |
| devkulkarni | this is a first cut | 17:56 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b: your input on the changes to the app file format will be valuable | 17:56 |
| datsun180b | sure | 17:56 |
| devkulkarni | james_li: your input on the changes that need to be made to solum-worker and solum-deployer would be valuable | 17:56 |
| ashishjain | that is a good spec I can see support for kubernetes and docker-compose, do we not plan magnum? | 17:57 |
| devkulkarni | both of yours comments on the entire spec would be valuable | 17:57 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: we do plan to integrate with magnum | 17:57 |
| devkulkarni | although, for supporting multi-service applications we don't necessarily need magnum | 17:57 |
| ashishjain | since magnum already does compose & kubernetes I think we just integrate magnum | 17:57 |
| devkulkarni | I think magnum supports swarm and kubernetes | 17:58 |
| devkulkarni | my thinking was that we can get an initial multi-service app poc without having to worry about magnum | 17:59 |
| ashishjain | sorry you are correct I think it is swarm and kubernetes | 17:59 |
| devkulkarni | we can directly use docker-compose on Heat | 17:59 |
| ashishjain | not sure if mesos is in their plan | 17:59 |
| devkulkarni | yes, mesos is in their plan.. | 17:59 |
| devkulkarni | probably they already support it | 17:59 |
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| devkulkarni | alright.. it is time | 18:00 |
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| devkulkarni | thanks ashishjain, datsun180b, james_li for joining today | 18:00 |
| devkulkarni | see you next tuesday | 18:00 |
| ashishjain | yes you are correct they already support mesos | 18:00 |
| ashishjain | thanks devkulkarni | 18:00 |
| ashishjain | thanks james_li datsun180b | 18:00 |
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| devkulkarni | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 8 18:00:55 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-12-08-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-12-08-17.00.txt | 18:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-12-08-17.00.log.html | 18:01 |
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| terrylhowe | o/ | 18:58 |
| terrylhowe | briancurtin: you around? | 18:59 |
| etoews | o/ | 18:59 |
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| briancurtin | #startmeeting python-openstacksdk | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 8 19:00:41 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is briancurtin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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| etoews | o/ | 19:00 |
| briancurtin | sorry about that, my client disconnected but appeared as if it was connected so i was in a meeting with no one | 19:00 |
| etoews | the best kind of meeting | 19:01 |
| briancurtin | does anyone have anything specific to bring up? | 19:01 |
| terrylhowe | Only exciting news I have is OSC/SDK integration moving along thanks to help from Tang Chen and Richard Theis | 19:02 |
| briancurtin | overall things are moving along reasonably well, and have had good contributions from a few others lately | 19:02 |
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| briancurtin | yeah, richard has been pitching in good stuff | 19:03 |
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| etoews | yep. good stuff from rtheis! | 19:03 |
| etoews | can we have a quick look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254307/ | 19:03 |
| rtheis | etoews: thanks | 19:03 |
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| etoews | keystoneauth isn't too forthcoming about what's behind that 400 error | 19:04 |
| etoews | http://logs.openstack.org/07/254307/2/check/gate-sdk-dsvm-functional/7f58e6c/console.html#_2015-12-07_23_49_46_783 | 19:04 |
| briancurtin | etoews: that’s good, and i agree with terry to fix the other stuff in another review. we’ve generally been pretty good about fixing one thing in one commit | 19:04 |
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| etoews | and i haven't been able to reproduce it with my own devstack :( | 19:05 |
| terrylhowe | I just merged it. It is progress, fixining these tests is tricky but super important | 19:05 |
| etoews | agreed. and thanks. | 19:05 |
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| etoews | i'll add some deletion examples next for key pair and servers. just so stuff gets cleaned up. | 19:06 |
| etoews | terrylhowe: do you want to abandon this patch set then? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250463/ | 19:07 |
| terrylhowe | yeh, well there is still the fix for the shell script there | 19:07 |
| etoews | ah. i see it. well, whatever direction you want to go with it. | 19:08 |
| etoews | does the 1.0 list warrant a review? https://launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+milestone/1.0 | 19:10 |
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| briancurtin | etoews: i’ve been pruning here and there but haven’t made any changes in about 2 weeks. do you have any suggestions on things to promote/demote? | 19:12 |
| briancurtin | or did you mean to just have people take a look at it for what’s next? | 19:13 |
| etoews | why don't we step through the confirmed/in progress one by one and just see if anything is to be done on the issue? | 19:13 |
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| briancurtin | on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1466192 i just need to do it, so that’s an easy review | 19:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1466192 in OpenStack SDK "Update contributor guide" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Brian Curtin (brian.curtin) | 19:14 |
| briancurtin | for https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1479977 that seems like it’s still stuck in a holding pattern | 19:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1479977 in OpenStack SDK "Get sdk docs on developer.openstack.org/sdks/python/openstacksdk" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Everett Toews (everett-toews) | 19:14 |
| etoews | one sec | 19:14 |
| briancurtin | we now have the right docs theme, though | 19:14 |
| etoews | yep | 19:14 |
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| etoews | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246591/ | 19:15 |
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| etoews | no new comments on my latest patch set. i think i just need to highlight it again to infra. | 19:16 |
| briancurtin | im not confident in actually reviewing that, but i can say things look spelled correctly... | 19:16 |
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| etoews | there's a bunch of infra magic behind it. i have no idea what i did there. | 19:17 |
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| briancurtin | I’m assuming they’ll take a look and if it’s wrong, hopefully just | 19:19 |
| briancurtin | help in figuring it out so you don’t have to guess at it? | 19:19 |
| etoews | ya. i've already got a lot of help from andreas. i think it's in good shape now. | 19:20 |
| briancurtin | cool | 19:20 |
| briancurtin | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1468086 — what should we do here? | 19:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1468086 in OpenStack SDK "Mark services as Beta to indicate that the interfaces may not be stable" [Medium,Confirmed] | 19:20 |
| etoews | is there anything we would mark as beta today? | 19:21 |
| etoews | said another way, are we confident in supporting all of the interfaces as is in their current form? | 19:22 |
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| briancurtin | i kind of think we are, but i still need to do somewhat of an audit on that. i did a mini-audit around find a few weeks ago that just found us naming things differently, which was a trivial fix, but functionally was fine | 19:23 |
| briancurtin | so maybe we do nothing and just have it in LP but untargeted? | 19:23 |
| terrylhowe | the only thing that makes me nervous really is telemetry | 19:24 |
| etoews | briancurtin: did you want to create a bug for an interface audit? | 19:24 |
| briancurtin | yeah, that’s one. there’s also a review out that would potentially restructure its resources | 19:24 |
| briancurtin | etoews: yeah i’ll file one | 19:24 |
| terrylhowe | but looking at it the proxy has nothing right now, the resource classes seem a little messed up | 19:25 |
| etoews | terrylhowe: do you want to mark the telemetry interface as beta? | 19:25 |
| terrylhowe | maybe or quick clean up | 19:25 |
| briancurtin | terrylhowe: yeah, that one is fairly disconnected, which probably feeds into why it often breaks functional tests | 19:25 |
| etoews | terrylhowe: whatever works for you. | 19:25 |
| terrylhowe | marking as beta would probably be easiest | 19:25 |
| etoews | terrylhowe: do you want to create a bug for that or just go for it? | 19:26 |
| etoews | and what mechanism do we use to mark it as beta? | 19:27 |
| etoews | docstring and a warning? | 19:27 |
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| briancurtin | etoews: something in restructuredText markup would be ideal, and the warnings module is actually a really good idea | 19:27 |
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| briancurtin | etoews: i have been meaning to look at creating some rst shortcut to make identifying admin calls easier, but that’s actually a whole different conversation/organizational structure from this…but still, something like “.. beta:: <blah>” | 19:29 |
| briancurtin | i forget how to make new admonitions, but it can be done | 19:29 |
| etoews | terrylhowe: do you want to create a bug for that or just go for it? | 19:31 |
| terrylhowe | the existing bug is fine, I just don’t know the steps etoews | 19:32 |
| terrylhowe | the proxy only exposes capabilities list, so it isn’t much | 19:32 |
| terrylhowe | unfortunately, that seems to fail as devstack changes their capabilities | 19:33 |
| etoews | wait. are we talking about metric or telemetry? | 19:33 |
| briancurtin | if the proxy only includes /capabilities we should just remove the proxy entirely, leave the resources, and wait for someone to come in and make a useful telemetry proxy | 19:33 |
| etoews | it sounds like you're talking about metric | 19:33 |
| briancurtin | (whichever this is about) | 19:34 |
| briancurtin | i think somewhat related to any of this is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226689/ | 19:34 |
| etoews | ya | 19:35 |
| etoews | terrylhowe: is it metric or telemetry you want to mark as beta? | 19:36 |
| terrylhowe | I think it was metric that was blowing up, but now I’m not sure | 19:37 |
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| briancurtin | that should be another general audit - the telemetry, metric, and alarm related things have been more fragile than the other services, both on devstack in the gate but also quite often on my own local devstack | 19:38 |
| terrylhowe | no, it was telementry | 19:38 |
| etoews | okay. well how about this. | 19:41 |
| etoews | for every function in the _proxy of a beta service include at the top of the docstring "BETA: This function is subject to change" (or something like that) | 19:41 |
| etoews | for every resource of a beta service, include at the top of the class docstring "BETA: This class is subject to change" (or something like that) | 19:41 |
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| etoews | then include a warning in the whatever_service.py file? | 19:42 |
| terrylhowe | That definitely works for me and I’m fine with that, but I’d be okay being less through and just having a warning at the top of the proxy | 19:43 |
| terrylhowe | I can’t seem to spell today | 19:43 |
| briancurtin | i would think the beta notification would go into the top of something like doc/source/users/proxies/a_beta_proxy.rst | 19:44 |
| etoews | sure. for the Proxy class of a beta service, include at the top of the class docstring "BETA: This class is subject to change" (or something like that) | 19:44 |
| etoews | briancurtin: good idea to include beta info there too. | 19:45 |
| briancurtin | including it in the class docstring means they’d have to read somewhat far into the doc, through the initial argument list, in order to get to it. i think we can head that off even earlier by just including it straight into the page where the docs are being held and the docstrings are pulled into | 19:45 |
| etoews | but i'd want to include it in the code docstrings too for people who skip the docs and jump straight into the code | 19:46 |
| briancurtin | i’m not 100% sure where to raise a warning from. now that i think of it, the blah_service.py file will always get loaded, but they might not be using that thing, so i’d rather not warn then. | 19:46 |
| briancurtin | yeah, good point, i guess we’ll just have to write something up and see how it turns out | 19:46 |
| etoews | do the proxies always get loaded? | 19:47 |
| briancurtin | unless loading changed with ksa, everything gets loaded | 19:48 |
| briancurtin | so you’ll always have a conn.telemetry or whatever | 19:48 |
| etoews | hmmm...skip warnings for now? | 19:48 |
| briancurtin | (further down the line we should probably get smarter and only load what comes back from the service catalog) | 19:49 |
| terrylhowe | yes | 19:49 |
| terrylhowe | I think there is a ticket for lazy loading | 19:49 |
| briancurtin | maybe. they’re probably a little tricky to get right without over-warning people | 19:49 |
| terrylhowe | definitely need that] | 19:49 |
| etoews | that's my inclination. i truly hate noisy warnings. | 19:49 |
| etoews | (that aren't relevant to me) | 19:49 |
| etoews | okay. no warnings for now. | 19:50 |
| etoews | i'll summarize the beta docstring stuff in that bug. | 19:50 |
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| etoews | briancurtin: is this still relevant? https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1494494 | 19:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1494494 in OpenStack SDK "Expose the full URL to an object in object_store" [Medium,Confirmed] | 19:51 |
| briancurtin | yeah, still need to break a hole through something to expose that | 19:51 |
| briancurtin | haven’t looked at it since the change though | 19:52 |
| etoews | terrylhowe: is this still relevant? https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1461200 | 19:52 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1461200 in OpenStack SDK "Create resource.props type=Resource for attributes with _id names" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Terry Howe (thowe-g) | 19:52 |
| terrylhowe | that gets into the path args world | 19:53 |
| briancurtin | that’s very relevant and i really hope we can get that done so it’s equal across the board, but yeah, the path args thing | 19:53 |
| terrylhowe | definitely need something there, I haven’t come up with a better solution than what is out there | 19:53 |
| terrylhowe | something simplier would be nice | 19:53 |
| briancurtin | i’ll take a look soon at that, would like to get those _id removals rolling | 19:54 |
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| etoews | briancurtin: is this done? https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1488631 | 19:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1488631 in OpenStack SDK "Converge on upload/download names instead of create/save/etc" [Critical,In progress] | 19:56 |
| briancurtin | would rather not have to release with the blah_id names, then phase them out via deprecation in favor of blah (i also don’t know how to raise deprecation warnings on attribute access) | 19:56 |
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| briancurtin | etoews: i don’t think so, unless i pushed the branch and it didn’t have Closes-Bug - i’ll take a look | 19:56 |
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| terrylhowe | there aren’t a huge number of resources with path args atm | 19:57 |
| etoews | terrylhowe: can this be considered done? https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1513908 | 19:57 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1513908 in OpenStack SDK "Move to keystoneauth" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Terry Howe (thowe-g) | 19:57 |
| briancurtin | maybe in another one of my “audit” things i’ll round up where we have _id suffixed things and work them out | 19:57 |
| terrylhowe | yes | 19:57 |
| * etoews desperately wants to kill at least one bug | 19:57 | |
| etoews | \o/ | 19:57 |
| terrylhowe | killed | 19:58 |
| etoews | and there was much rejoicing | 19:58 |
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| briancurtin | #endmeeting | 20:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 8 20:01:07 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2015/python_openstacksdk.2015-12-08-19.00.html | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2015/python_openstacksdk.2015-12-08-19.00.txt | 20:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2015/python_openstacksdk.2015-12-08-19.00.log.html | 20:01 |
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