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| PaulMurray | #startmeeting Nova Live Migration | 14:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 9 14:01:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is PaulMurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_live_migration' | 14:01 |
| tdurakov | o/ | 14:01 |
| PaulMurray | hi - who is here? | 14:01 |
| pkoniszewski | o/ | 14:01 |
| mdbooth | o/ | 14:01 |
| jlanoux | hi | 14:01 |
| andrearosa | hi | 14:01 |
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| paul-carlton2 | o/ | 14:02 |
| PaulMurray | the agenda is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaLiveMigration | 14:02 |
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| PaulMurray | #topic Next meeting | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Next meeting (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:03 | |
| PaulMurray | I will not be here next week | 14:03 |
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| PaulMurray | is there someone willing to be chair for the meeting on 16th Feb? | 14:03 |
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| tdurakov | I could | 14:03 |
| PaulMurray | thank you - I will put you down | 14:04 |
| tdurakov | sure | 14:04 |
| PaulMurray | #info tdurakov to chair meeting on 16th Feb | 14:04 |
| PaulMurray | great, that's sorted | 14:04 |
| pkoniszewski | in case there are some troubles I will also be able to cover | 14:04 |
| tdurakov | cool, will ping you if any happens | 14:04 |
| PaulMurray | ok - thanks pkoniszewski | 14:04 |
| PaulMurray | #topic Priority reviews | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority reviews (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:04 | |
| PaulMurray | the feature freeze is three weeks away I think | 14:05 |
| PaulMurray | but we are starting to get some movement | 14:05 |
| PaulMurray | split-network-plane-for-live-migration is complete | 14:05 |
| PaulMurray | pause-vm-during-live-migration only needs +W on last patch | 14:05 |
| pkoniszewski | pausing needs API approval | 14:06 |
| PaulMurray | abort-live-migration has started to get some patches up (well, one) | 14:06 |
| andrearosa | ...yet but I am working on the big one | 14:06 |
| andrearosa | s/yet/yes | 14:06 |
| PaulMurray | pkoniszewski, mikal asked for alex_xu or similar to approve - I think it will be done pretty soon | 14:07 |
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| PaulMurray | block-live-migrate-with-attached-volumes is making good progress | 14:07 |
| PaulMurray | dan +2 first patch | 14:08 |
| PaulMurray | I think pkoniszewski is going to update second | 14:08 |
| PaulMurray | pkoniszewski, ? | 14:08 |
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| PaulMurray | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234659 - needs minor revision | 14:08 |
| pkoniszewski | so I'm working actually on second patch as I'm not sure that there is an issue | 14:09 |
| PaulMurray | is that the one ^^ | 14:09 |
| pkoniszewski | I'm sure that we want to skip config drive ISO because destination host will try to write to readonly device which is not a good idea at all | 14:09 |
| pkoniszewski | now I'm checking what happens if other readonly device is attached to VM | 14:10 |
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| pkoniszewski | which is not config drive | 14:10 |
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| PaulMurray | hmmm, did no one think of that? | 14:10 |
| PaulMurray | we used to migrate the config drive in HP | 14:10 |
| PaulMurray | I think we did it differently though - paul-carlton2 can you remember? | 14:11 |
| tdurakov | PaulMurray, was it block-migrate? | 14:11 |
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| PaulMurray | tdurakov, that's what I am trying to remember | 14:11 |
| paul-carlton2 | We copied config drive over rcp | 14:11 |
| tdurakov | prior to migration? | 14:11 |
| paul-carlton2 | yep | 14:12 |
| PaulMurray | right, which we don't want to do | 14:12 |
| paul-carlton2 | same for rescue libvirt xml | 14:12 |
| paul-carlton2 | nope, not the upstream way forward | 14:12 |
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| PaulMurray | I thought qemu could handle fat config drives ? so it must have worked at some point ? | 14:13 |
| pkoniszewski | well, config drive works fine | 14:13 |
| pkoniszewski | in current implementation | 14:13 |
| paul-carlton2 | ah, now I recall, we made config drives vfat which copied ok | 14:13 |
| tdurakov | ah | 14:14 |
| pkoniszewski | right, they are not readonly | 14:14 |
| PaulMurray | I see | 14:14 |
| tdurakov | paul-carlton2, they works fine | 14:14 |
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| paul-carlton2 | Yep we got it to work, but using a local patch | 14:14 |
| paul-carlton2 | I think | 14:14 |
| paul-carlton2 | can't libvirt copy config drives | 14:15 |
| tdurakov | afair vfat works in upstream well too for block-migrate | 14:15 |
| PaulMurray | pkoniszewski, so just to check - vfat config drives already migrate - its only the iso format that is blocked | 14:15 |
| tdurakov | so the issue affects only iso9600 | 14:15 |
| PaulMurray | that's why that readonly conditional was there | 14:15 |
| PaulMurray | the one danpb commented on | 14:16 |
| paul-carlton2 | surely at libvirt/qemu level it should be able to copy any disk device it is told to | 14:16 |
| paul-carlton2 | otherwise a readonly device could not be created? | 14:16 |
| PaulMurray | qemu doesn't create it | 14:17 |
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| PaulMurray | pkoniszewski, what did it mean when iso9600 support was added | 14:18 |
| pkoniszewski | let me find libvirt release note for this | 14:18 |
| PaulMurray | ok - lets move this discussion to the patch and move on | 14:18 |
| PaulMurray | or we wont finish the meeting | 14:18 |
| PaulMurray | the next spec was live-migration-progress-report | 14:19 |
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| PaulMurray | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/085662.html | 14:19 |
| PaulMurray | did this ML thread resolve the write to db question? | 14:19 |
| pkoniszewski | i think so | 14:20 |
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| PaulMurray | I wasn't sure if there was an actual conclusion | 14:20 |
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| tdurakov | heh, I'd prefer to do this reporting online instead of db writes) | 14:20 |
| tdurakov | still | 14:20 |
| pkoniszewski | I think that we will be able to change this once migration progress is saved on compute side | 14:21 |
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| johnthetubaguy | what do you mean by "saved on the compute side"? | 14:21 |
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| paul-carlton2 | tdurakov, I disagree the compute process should update db and api calls should get it form there | 14:22 |
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| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy, it's about conductor and compute communication refactoring, i believe | 14:22 |
| paul-carlton2 | that is how it is done everywhere in openstack, certainly in nova | 14:22 |
| pkoniszewski | johnthetubaguy: during midcycle Nikola had some concerns that in case that compute dies it will need to have data saved locally | 14:22 |
| pkoniszewski | johnthetubaguy: to recover migration process/cleanup/whatever | 14:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | yes, thats in addition, not instead of | 14:23 |
| paul-carlton2 | That is a separate issue to the progress reporting | 14:23 |
| pkoniszewski | thought we can use it for reporting progress online | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, I think we should keep the nova architecture the same here, at least until we find a real issue folks are hitting | 14:23 |
| mdbooth | Long term, the db doesn't seem like the best place for this. If the compute is eventually going to have this information, api can directly query the compute because it has an rpc address. | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | pkoniszewski: in summary, we can't, the API reads from the DB only | 14:23 |
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| pkoniszewski | johnthetubaguy: got it | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, lets no go there for now | 14:24 |
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| pkoniszewski | that's reasonable, i'd stick to writing progress every 5 seconds | 14:24 |
| tdurakov | ok, let's move on then | 14:24 |
| pkoniszewski | but current implementation does not reset it anywhere | 14:24 |
| pkoniszewski | so i have completed migrations with disk and memory to be transferred, which is weird | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | the API shouldn't be showing progress info for not in progress things, so I am not sure its a big issue | 14:25 |
| pkoniszewski | well, currently it can show that VM is paused with a progress of 92% | 14:26 |
| rdopiera | johnthetubaguy: how about for things that were interrupted? | 14:26 |
| PaulMurray | a migration should be running, completed, cancelled or in error - only one of those needs progress report ? | 14:27 |
| PaulMurray | I'd count paused as running | 14:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | rdopiera: same, once the interruption is spotted, but really I just mean we can clean up that stuff later | 14:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: that sounds correct | 14:28 |
| rdopiera | johnthetubaguy: it could be useful to know where it finished for cleaning up | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | rdopiera: maybe | 14:28 |
| rdopiera | johnthetubaguy: where it was interrupted, I mean | 14:28 |
| pkoniszewski | rdopiera: +1 | 14:28 |
| PaulMurray | rdopiera, isn't that covered by its state? | 14:28 |
| paul-carlton2 | the current monitor code dan write calculates the progress every 5 seconds so it will be updated | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: non-zero progress is in interesting data point though | 14:28 |
| rdopiera | PaulMurray: the state is very large grained | 14:28 |
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| paul-carlton2 | progress should be reset to zero when migration ends, be it good or bad outcome | 14:29 |
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| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: sure, but the API should not report any progress unless its running, so its a nit really | 14:30 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, pkoniszewski so I think we concluded to write every 5 seconds | 14:30 |
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| PaulMurray | lets move on | 14:31 |
| paul-carlton2 | The api as in nova show reports progress all the time | 14:31 |
| PaulMurray | I mentioned auto-converge on the agenda | 14:31 |
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| paul-carlton2 | could be zero, should be zero unless live mig or snapshot in progress | 14:31 |
| PaulMurray | but I think that is out of scope because it didn't have an approved spec | 14:31 |
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| pkoniszewski | PaulMurray: and it needs newer libvirt, even for a config flag, so let's skip it | 14:32 |
| PaulMurray | pkoniszewski, right, it was on the priority reviews pad so I'm going to remove it | 14:32 |
| PaulMurray | just got confused | 14:32 |
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| pkoniszewski | sure, go ahead, i forgot to remove it | 14:32 |
| PaulMurray | #topic Bugs | 14:32 |
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| paul-carlton2 | if we are referring to the new data counters they should be left as is on completion since it may be useful to se how far it got when it stopped/completed and how much data it copied | 14:33 |
| PaulMurray | paul-carlton2, we've moved on | 14:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: yeah, thats what I mean API returns zero if not in progress, regardless of DB, but yeah, lets move on | 14:33 |
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| PaulMurray | there are 4 new bugs for triage | 14:34 |
| PaulMurray | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=live-migration+&field.status%3Alist=NEW | 14:34 |
| PaulMurray | I don't know who is doing the triage but well done to them :) | 14:34 |
| PaulMurray | I moved some of the bug patches around in the priorities pad | 14:34 |
| PaulMurray | because several were stale | 14:34 |
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| PaulMurray | the rest have had some review and updates recently | 14:35 |
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| PaulMurray | Does anyone have any questions ? | 14:35 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, do you have any comments on bugs - we don't do a great job of turning those over | 14:36 |
| tdurakov | about this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1526642 - it's possible to break anti-affinity rules by providing dest host, right? | 14:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1526642 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Simultaneous live migrations break anti-affinity policy" [Undecided,New] | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: only that once reviews are ready, lets get them in that etherpad, like the other patches | 14:36 |
| pkoniszewski | tdurakov: no, scheduler breaks anti-affinity policy | 14:36 |
| mdbooth | bauzas: ^^^ | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: having a set of stuff you want in mitaka would be no bad thing | 14:36 |
| pkoniszewski | tdurakov: in case of parallel scheduling it might cause rescheduling and instances are spawned on the same host | 14:36 |
| PaulMurray | anti-affinity is checked for boot | 14:36 |
| PaulMurray | in claims code | 14:37 |
| PaulMurray | so if you get a claim you got anti-affinity | 14:37 |
| PaulMurray | its easier than affinity | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: there were a heap of buts in the tracker that seemed to be fixed by upcoming blueprints, those are working commenting on, any maybe changing the status somehow | 14:37 |
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| tdurakov | pkoniszewski, if you got aa policy and manually pick up dest node that breaks rules? | 14:37 |
| pkoniszewski | tdurakov: if you force, yes | 14:37 |
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| PaulMurray | I think force is allowed to break rules | 14:37 |
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| PaulMurray | it overrides | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | yes, thinking about migrating one host to a new host | 14:38 |
| PaulMurray | there will be a check destinations coming | 14:38 |
| tdurakov | yep, it doesn't asks scheduler | 14:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | you need to move each VM one by one | 14:38 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so you actually have to break affinity = true rules while you do the move | 14:38 |
| * johnthetubaguy mutters something about great power and great responsibility | 14:38 | |
| * bauzas lurks | 14:38 | |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, yes, true - I was thinking about that the other day | 14:38 |
| PaulMurray | only moving whole host to whole host works for these kind of policies | 14:39 |
| mdbooth | bauzas: Discussion was around anti-affinity during live-migration https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1526642 | 14:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1526642 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Simultaneous live migrations break anti-affinity policy" [Undecided,New] | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | now eventually, we could do some fancy stuff to work around that, but lets just get it working first | 14:39 |
| bauzas | so, server groups is checked in a semaphore in the compute manager AFAIR | 14:39 |
| bauzas | actually, I wrote that in Kilo | 14:39 |
| PaulMurray | bauzas, yes, in claims | 14:39 |
| bauzas | PaulMurray: probably, I don't remember in which caller I made that | 14:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: force needs to break these rules quite a few times, and thats the idea, basically | 14:40 |
| pkoniszewski | johnthetubaguy: it breaks rules even without force | 14:40 |
| bauzas | mmm | 14:41 |
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| tdurakov | same for affinity rules | 14:41 |
| bauzas | it would add another level of verification | 14:41 |
| bauzas | but fair | 14:41 |
| bauzas | for the moment, we don't provide the Spec object to the compute manager | 14:41 |
| bauzas | so, there is no way for it to know whether it was forced or not | 14:42 |
| bauzas | anyway | 14:42 |
| bauzas | I'm discussing about a non-implemented BP | 14:42 |
| PaulMurray | we can look at this more later | 14:42 |
| PaulMurray | anything else on bugs? | 14:43 |
| PaulMurray | #topic open discussion | 14:43 |
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| PaulMurray | the floor is open for anything else? | 14:43 |
| PaulMurray | I noticed there is movement | 14:44 |
| mdbooth | Libvirt storage pools isn't going to happen by the end of the month | 14:44 |
| PaulMurray | on ploop support for storage groups in libvirt | 14:44 |
| PaulMurray | er, storage pools | 14:44 |
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| mdbooth | I talked to paul-carlton2 the other day, and there's basically 1 preparatory patch I'd like to get in Mitaka | 14:44 |
| mdbooth | Which would make it easier to migrate between backend storage schemes in Newton | 14:45 |
| PaulMurray | do you have a link yet? | 14:45 |
| PaulMurray | review | 14:45 |
| PaulMurray | or is it coming | 14:45 |
| mdbooth | I haven't written it, yet, because I was trying to get there in order. However, I may bodge something out of order for expediency. | 14:45 |
| PaulMurray | we have less than 3 weeks I think | 14:46 |
| mdbooth | Basically, we have a file, disk.info, which currently stores information about which file format a particular disk is using. | 14:46 |
| mdbooth | I want to change it to be able to store more than that | 14:46 |
| mdbooth | For example, which backend it's using. | 14:46 |
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| mdbooth | However, the file is on shared storage | 14:46 |
| mdbooth | So it needs to be able to co-exist with N-1 | 14:47 |
| mdbooth | I'd like to change the parser in M to understand the format I intend to use in N | 14:47 |
| mdbooth | And not barf | 14:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | pkoniszewski: today, yes I think it does break that, thats what bauzas's blueprint is trying to fix | 14:47 |
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| mdbooth | In the meantime, I will continue trying to get there more cleanly. | 14:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: why not start reporting the new stuff now, but only use the new data later? | 14:48 |
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| mdbooth | johnthetubaguy: It's a JSON file mapping disk -> format | 14:48 |
| mdbooth | I want it to map disk -> {lots: of, new: things} | 14:48 |
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| mdbooth | Also, if I changed the format now, it would break compatibility with Liberty | 14:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: oh, I see, you need to reader to support both before you use both | 14:49 |
| mdbooth | If Liberty and Mitaka computes are on the same shared storage | 14:49 |
| mdbooth | Yeah | 14:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: thats testable quite easily, so that should be OK | 14:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: or just add an additional file? and eventually delete the old one, but that does seem wasteful | 14:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | don't want to hit filesystem limits because of that | 14:50 |
| mdbooth | I hoped at one point that the file was redundant, but it turns out it's not | 14:50 |
| mdbooth | So I figured I'd just co-opt it | 14:51 |
| mdbooth | Also, it already took the best name ;) | 14:51 |
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| PaulMurray | mdbooth, when you've figured out what you need to land in mitaka you can let us know and we will try and push it | 14:53 |
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| mdbooth | PaulMurray: Sure. | 14:53 |
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| PaulMurray | mdbooth, thanks | 14:54 |
| PaulMurray | anything else? | 14:54 |
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| mdbooth | PaulMurray: Amongst other things, it will allow us to know which instances have been moved from the legacy scheme to libvirt storage pools. | 14:54 |
| PaulMurray | mdbooth, are you going to negotiate that between hosts or does it end up in the db? | 14:55 |
| PaulMurray | when it comes to a migration I mean? | 14:56 |
| mdbooth | It's on disk on the compute. | 14:56 |
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| mdbooth | It uses instance storage, which makes most sense. | 14:56 |
| mdbooth | The other advantage of using the existing file, is that current code should expect it to exist. | 14:57 |
| mdbooth | So fewer dependent changes. | 14:57 |
| PaulMurray | I get it, | 14:57 |
| * mdbooth assumes this file would be copied over during non-shared storage migration, for eg | 14:57 | |
| PaulMurray | we're coming to the end of the meeting now | 14:58 |
| paul-carlton | surely it would be created by the dest compute node, not copied? | 14:58 |
| PaulMurray | tdurakov, or pkoniszewski if anything goes wrong for tdurakov | 14:59 |
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| mdbooth | paul-carlton: Wouldn't surprise me, but that would be a bug. | 14:59 |
| PaulMurray | will chair next meeting ^^ | 14:59 |
| PaulMurray | we have to close | 14:59 |
| PaulMurray | bye all - and thanks for coming | 14:59 |
| andrearosa | bye | 14:59 |
| tdurakov | byr | 14:59 |
| PaulMurray | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 9 14:59:34 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-02-09-14.01.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-02-09-14.01.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-02-09-14.01.log.html | 14:59 |
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| mriedem | #startmeeting stable | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 9 15:00:22 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: stable)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'stable' | 15:00 |
| mriedem | will wait a few minutes for people to show up | 15:00 |
| bknudson_ | hi | 15:00 |
| ttx | o/ | 15:01 |
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| mriedem | tonyb: mtreinish: around? | 15:02 |
| mriedem | mrunge: ? | 15:02 |
| mrunge | hey o/ | 15:03 |
| mrunge | sorry for being late | 15:03 |
| mriedem | np, we might as well get started | 15:03 |
| mriedem | first, i want to thank tonyb for chairing last week while i was out | 15:03 |
| mriedem | #topic status | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "status (Meeting topic: stable)" | 15:03 | |
| mriedem | i was following along with the testtools flare up on kilo | 15:03 |
| mriedem | that's mostly under control as of late last week | 15:04 |
| mriedem | #link issues https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker | 15:04 |
| mriedem | i don't think there is anything new in there really, trove has some problems which people are working on | 15:04 |
| mriedem | tonyb was helping sahara getting their tests running in kilo | 15:04 |
| mrunge | great! | 15:05 |
| bknudson_ | keystone was also failing -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277022/ | 15:05 |
| bknudson_ | stable/kilo | 15:05 |
| mriedem | oh for testtools? | 15:05 |
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| bknudson_ | I don't think it was because of testtools, but because of a change in infra master | 15:06 |
| mriedem | ok so i guess we're just waiting for jenkins there | 15:06 |
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| bknudson_ | y, I'll see if it works | 15:06 |
| mriedem | were there any other known stable branch issues? | 15:06 |
| bknudson_ | I proposed a change to project-config -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277550/ | 15:06 |
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| mriedem | #status action items from previous meeting(s) | 15:07 |
| mriedem | mrunge to followup with dhellman re horizon release email | 15:07 |
| mrunge | mriedem, I just missed the email | 15:08 |
| mriedem | mrunge: did that happen? | 15:08 |
| mriedem | ah, ok | 15:08 |
| mrunge | mriedem, there was a automatic email | 15:08 |
| mriedem | yeah this http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2016-January/000944.html | 15:08 |
| mriedem | right? | 15:08 |
| mrunge | yes | 15:09 |
| mriedem | ok | 15:09 |
| mriedem | tonyb check how glance drivers compares to gerrit cores and nagg flaper87 to sync them ;P | 15:09 |
| mrunge | but this mail is basically wrong | 15:09 |
| mriedem | flaper87: are you around? | 15:09 |
| mrunge | last horizon version on pypi is 2012.2 | 15:09 |
| mriedem | mrunge: yeah i saw that | 15:09 |
| mrunge | and it was released there by accident | 15:09 |
| mriedem | mrunge: was a bug reported to follow up on that? i saw apavec had a post to the -dev list | 15:09 |
| mrunge | mriedem, unfortunately, I didn't had the time to report a bug or follow up there | 15:10 |
| mriedem | ok | 15:10 |
| mrunge | would you make it an action item for me then? | 15:10 |
| mriedem | #action follow up on server projects (e.g. horizon) being released to pypi from stable branches | 15:10 |
| mriedem | #undo | 15:11 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Action object at 0x98417d0> | 15:11 |
| mrunge | ack, thx | 15:11 |
| mriedem | #action mrunge to follow up on server projects (e.g. horizon) being released to pypi from stable branches | 15:11 |
| mrunge | thank you | 15:11 |
| mriedem | there was an action item for the follows-stable-process tag, we'll come back to that | 15:11 |
| mriedem | mriedem to circle back on the list of projects that might need to do a stable/liberty point release | 15:11 |
| mriedem | i see someone updated the agenda with the latest point releases | 15:11 |
| mriedem | i think mistral is then the only one that's not done | 15:12 |
| mriedem | they have a change up in the release repo https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273223/ but it needs to be updated to include a revert of a feature backport | 15:12 |
| mriedem | #action mriedem to nudge mistral stable CPL to update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273223/ | 15:12 |
| mriedem | which reminds me, | 15:13 |
| mriedem | neutron has been backporting A LOT of changes to stable/liberty | 15:13 |
| mriedem | which is fine if they are following policy, | 15:13 |
| mtreinish | how much is a lot? | 15:13 |
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| mriedem | i'd have to find the latest release request, but it's like several dozen per month i think | 15:13 |
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| mtreinish | that is a lot | 15:14 |
| mriedem | anyway, dhellmann had asked that i review the latest neutron stable/liberty point release request and there were so many changes it was hard to review the change log to make sure they weren't leaking something bad in | 15:14 |
| mriedem | so we had pinged mestery to release more often if that's going to be the neutron stable model | 15:14 |
| mriedem | #action mriedem to follow up with mestery and/or ihar on releasing from stable more often if they are going to backport a lot of changes frequently | 15:15 |
| mriedem | #status kilo 2015.1.4 version updates pending | 15:15 |
| mriedem | #link open reviews https://review.openstack.org/#/q/Bump+stable/kilo+next+version+to+2015.1.4+status:open | 15:15 |
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| mriedem | so neutron, neutron-vpnaas and ironic on stable/kilo can't get their version updates in b/c of gate issues | 15:16 |
| mriedem | the last i looked at ironic, there might need to be a devstack backport for a timeout issue | 15:16 |
| mriedem | adam_g had worked around something in the ironic devstack plugin to fix master/stable/liberty, but that wasn't being used in kilo | 15:17 |
| mriedem | i haven't dug into the neutron* ones | 15:17 |
| mriedem | #topic stuck reviews | 15:17 |
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| mriedem | tony brought this up last week but there wasn't much discussion so i'll bring htis up again | 15:17 |
| mriedem | Cleanup multipath ISCSI connections when disconnecting volumes - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229152/ | 15:17 |
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| mriedem | that is a large change for nova in kilo, | 15:17 |
| mriedem | it essentially backports a bunch of changes from os-brick in liberty to nova in kilo to fix multipath bugs | 15:18 |
| mriedem | ~400 LOC net change | 15:18 |
| mriedem | which seems too risky for me, | 15:18 |
| flaper87 | mriedem: I'm now | 15:18 |
| mriedem | flaper87: there was just an earlier item from tonyb about syncing glance drivers with glance core team in gerrit | 15:19 |
| mriedem | flaper87: sigmavirus24 might have more context, it came up in last week's meeting | 15:19 |
| mriedem | ttx: mtreinish: so if you have an opinion on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229152/ please chime in | 15:19 |
| mriedem | to the review i mean | 15:19 |
| ttx | will have a look | 15:20 |
| * sigmavirus24 readss crollback | 15:20 | |
| mriedem | fwiw it sounds like this fixes some major issues with multipath storage in kilo, but at this point i think people are going to just have to patch that in | 15:20 |
| mriedem | or upgrade nova/cinder to liberty | 15:20 |
| bknudson_ | all the gate failures are unrelated? | 15:20 |
| mriedem | bknudson_: yeah probably, we don't test multipath in the gate | 15:20 |
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| bknudson_ | Phase II (6-12 months): Only critical bugfixes and security patches are acceptable | 15:21 |
| mriedem | yeah i know, this was more or less falling under the bug fix tent | 15:21 |
| mriedem | as in critical if you're using multipath, but still, it's a very large change and i'm not really on board for bringing that in | 15:22 |
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| bknudson_ | my understanding of critical is gate-breaking | 15:22 |
| mriedem | at this point | 15:22 |
| mriedem | yeah, or breaks upgrade, etc | 15:22 |
| ttx | it is a significant change indeed | 15:22 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: I think I'm -1 just on the fact it has 7 commits backported in one patch | 15:22 |
| ttx | if that was exactly the code used in liberty/mitaka I guess the risk would be limited | 15:22 |
| bknudson_ | from the commit it's a copy of a file from the lib rather than really backporting all the changes | 15:23 |
| ttx | but I have no idea how much of a snowflake it is | 15:23 |
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| mriedem | we can move on, i'm just bringing attention to it | 15:24 |
| ttx | that said it seems to be isolated to use_multipath enough | 15:24 |
| mriedem | softlayer was hitting multipath issues on kilo and i pointed that change out to them, so they were happy to see someone had done it, | 15:24 |
| mriedem | but i told them to just upgrade nova to liberty | 15:24 |
| mriedem | moving on | 15:25 |
| mriedem | #topic proposed stable:follow-stable-policy tag | 15:26 |
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| ttx | ohai | 15:26 |
| mriedem | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/follows-stable-policy-tag | 15:26 |
| ttx | So here is the tag definition I plan to push | 15:26 |
| ttx | I'd rather have you all agree with it before we try to convince the TC that it would be a good idea | 15:26 |
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| mriedem | ok, i need to read through this quick (skim it) | 15:27 |
| ttx | one bikeshed area is on the naming (obviously) | 15:27 |
| ttx | the stable: prefix is there to mean that it's owned by the stable team | 15:28 |
| ttx | so the second "stable" there is a bit redundant | 15:28 |
| ttx | could be stable:follows-policy | 15:28 |
| mriedem | i'm fine with that | 15:29 |
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| ttx | ok, renaming then | 15:29 |
| bknudson_ | the doc looks good to me. | 15:29 |
| * mtreinish slowly reads | 15:31 | |
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| mriedem | ok, this looks like a good draft to me | 15:34 |
| ttx | So ... "healthy CI jobs, routinely backporting bug fixes and reviewing them, doing releases" - we should put that in the stable policy itself | 15:34 |
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| mriedem | yeah, i can add that if you want | 15:34 |
| mriedem | #action mriedem to update the stable policy with what it means to be actively maintaining stable branches for a project | 15:35 |
| ttx | Let me include your "rationale" changes | 15:35 |
| mriedem | ok | 15:36 |
| mriedem | anything else on this? | 15:36 |
| mriedem | i'll look forward to the governance review if not | 15:36 |
| mriedem | ttx: thanks for taking the time to write this up | 15:36 |
| mtreinish | not from me, looks good to me | 15:36 |
| ttx | #action ttx to propose corresponding governance review | 15:36 |
| ttx | will push today or tomorrow | 15:37 |
| mriedem | i'm going to skip the tooling section of the meeting agenda since that's a WIP | 15:37 |
| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 15:37 |
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| mriedem | anyone have anything? | 15:37 |
| mriedem | i'll take that as a no and we can end early | 15:37 |
| mriedem | thanks everyone | 15:37 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 15:37 |
| mrunge | thanks! | 15:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hello | 16:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | anyone here for the install guide meeting? | 16:01 |
| bswartz | I'm here to observe | 16:01 |
| bswartz | never been to one of these before | 16:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, we'll see if anyone shows up | 16:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | they've been slim for a while now | 16:02 |
| bswartz | My interest is in this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273724/ | 16:02 |
| bswartz | I pushed a manila install guide patch but abandoned it after seeing ^ | 16:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'll probably take a look at it | 16:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | needs to pass jenkins first | 16:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | looks like its just us, so we might as well get it on the books | 16:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | #startmeeting docinstallteam | 16:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 9 16:05:18 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sam-I-Am. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:05 |
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| bswartz | It's important to me that we get a manila install guide into Mitaka | 16:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | we'll talk about it in a bit | 16:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | #topic updates for mitaka | 16:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the spec hasn't been approved yet. please review if you get a chance. | 16:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274231/ | 16:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | keep in mind that it only covers updates for existing services | 16:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | #topic testing mitaka | 16:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "testing mitaka (Meeting topic: docinstallteam)" | 16:07 | |
| Sam-I-Am | looks like ubuntu has milestone 1 packages out in the cloud-archive ppa. not terribly useful yet. i'd wait until at least milestone 3. | 16:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | rdo packages from trunk, so those are up for testing anytime and probably getting close to milestone 3 | 16:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | i havent looked at suse | 16:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | #topic new services for mitaka | 16:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | this would be you, bswartz | 16:09 |
| bswartz | okay | 16:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | i see a blueprint, but not a spec | 16:09 |
| bswartz | yes there is a BP and a proposed change | 16:09 |
| bswartz | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/create-manila-install-guide | 16:09 |
| bswartz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273724/ | 16:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | i found those | 16:10 |
| bswartz | both of these occured without my knowledge | 16:10 |
| bswartz | I'm not sure who Denis Cavalcante is | 16:10 |
| bswartz | but I want to help ensure this lands | 16:10 |
| bswartz | so I'm asking what do I need to do? | 16:10 |
| bswartz | what deadlines exist for this change? | 16:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | generally speaking, we need everything for mitaka tested prior to release | 16:11 |
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| bswartz | if a spec is needed, what should it look like? (I haven't read any documentation specs before) | 16:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | this includes existing and new services | 16:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | the spec just says you want to add a service, explains any required architectural changes, limitations, etc. | 16:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | for example, if manila requires that we add/change the install guide architecture, its a bigger deal than a service that just works | 16:12 |
| bswartz | yes I don't believe we should require any large changes like that | 16:13 |
| bswartz | manila very much fits in the mold of cinder | 16:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | this patch contains a 'share node' | 16:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | which it piggybacks on the compute node, which we can't do | 16:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | unless the reference architecture for manila deploys share nodes on compute nodes | 16:13 |
| bswartz | where do you see that? | 16:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273724/2/doc/install-guide/source/manila-share-install.rst | 16:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | this is why we have specs... | 16:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so this stuff gets discussed before someone goes through the effort of writing the patch | 16:14 |
| bswartz | yeah, as I said this whole thing was a surprise to me | 16:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | i've heard on and off about it, but thought i'd see a spec before a patch | 16:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | the bp isnt approved either | 16:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | the content is here, so i'm not going to -2 it, but we'll need to address the problems | 16:15 |
| bswartz | I entered the Mitaka release believing that any install guide documentation would need to be somewhere other than the "official" install guide, due to an email thread where loquacities basically said that | 16:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think i was around for that thread | 16:15 |
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| bswartz | I prefer the approach dencaval seems to be taking | 16:16 |
| bswartz | but I haven't yet spoken to him | 16:16 |
| bswartz | so I guess I need to sync up with him first | 16:16 |
| bswartz | and help him address these issues or work on them myself | 16:16 |
| bswartz | to answer your earlier question about the "share node" | 16:17 |
| bswartz | I think he's just referring to the node on which the services are installed | 16:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | the qualifications for something going into the official install guide are generally these - a) does it work on a minimal amount of hw? b) do all distros package it? c) can we fully test it prior to release? | 16:17 |
| bswartz | it would be no different than cinder | 16:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | we do have a cinder storage node, so maybe we can re-use that for the share node? | 16:17 |
| bswartz | yes I think so | 16:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats something to consider | 16:18 |
| bswartz | what does the install guide test procedure look like? | 16:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | usually the big hold up for new services is all distros including packages, followed by sufficient testing on all of them | 16:18 |
| bswartz | some reads the doc and manually performs all the operations? | 16:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | follow the guide to the point where you can install/use your service, try the instructions for your service. | 16:18 |
| bswartz | /some/someone/ | 16:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 16:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | its all manual | 16:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | because thats what our audience does | 16:19 |
| bswartz | of course | 16:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | so my guess is manila becomes an optional service that references the cinder storage node bits, or something | 16:19 |
| bswartz | okay well my next step will be to sync up with dencaval | 16:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | yep | 16:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | a spec would be nice for tracking purposes | 16:20 |
| bswartz | can you link the repo for that spec? | 16:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/ | 16:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | and | 16:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | #link https://github.com/openstack/docs-specs | 16:21 |
| bswartz | thanks | 16:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i can help with that too | 16:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | you can take a look at some of the existing install guide spec in there | 16:22 |
| bswartz | yes that's what I'm doing | 16:22 |
| bswartz | I'll find out from dencaval how much help he needs and I'm happy to write the spec if it would help (even though it's a backwards process) | 16:23 |
| bswartz | that's all I had | 16:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | usually its not backwards :) | 16:23 |
| bswartz | yes i mean backwards in this case | 16:24 |
| bswartz | spec should have come first | 16:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah. i'm not going to hold this patch up because of the spec. | 16:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'd just like it there for tracking and historical purposes | 16:24 |
| bswartz | okay anything else I should know about? | 16:25 |
| bswartz | what is the deadline for the change to merge? | 16:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, we can test the patch before the majority of it merges | 16:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | then tweak later as newer versions of packages come out | 16:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | so i'd say we want the main patch to merge between milestone 3 and rc 1 | 16:27 |
| bswartz | k | 16:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | which implies it can be tested on ubuntu, rh, and suse | 16:27 |
| bswartz | and you'd do testing with m-3 versions of the packages? | 16:27 |
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| Sam-I-Am | thats where i like to start because its feature freeze | 16:28 |
| bswartz | or earlier versions work just as well? | 16:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | things mostly work by then | 16:28 |
| bswartz | k | 16:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | depends on how involved you are with the project | 16:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | if you think m1 or m2 works sufficiently, then use it | 16:28 |
| bswartz | well I'm the PTL for Manila, but not directly involved with packaging or docs | 16:29 |
| bswartz | so I'll have to ping some people | 16:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | we track testing here - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MitakaDocTesting | 16:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | we'll need to add row for manila | 16:29 |
| bswartz | broken link? | 16:29 |
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| bswartz | there's nothing on that page | 16:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | wat | 16:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | i submitted that last week | 16:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | sigh | 16:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | i hate wikis | 16:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/MitakaDocTesting | 16:30 |
| bswartz | better! | 16:30 |
| bswartz | okay thanks | 16:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, so thats how we track stuff | 16:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | it should be all green within 1-2 weeks after all distros release final packages | 16:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | which is sometimes a couple of weeks after actual release | 16:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | so we don't end up freezing the guide until maybe a month or so after release to facilitate updates without backports | 16:33 |
| bswartz | I see | 16:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | yep | 16:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | anything else for manila? | 16:34 |
| bswartz | nope | 16:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | cool | 16:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | glad we could chat | 16:35 |
| bswartz | yes thank you | 16:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | guess we can call the meeting since no one else is here | 16:35 |
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| bswartz | alright | 16:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | thanks | 16:36 |
| bswartz | it's lunch time here anyways | 16:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | #endmeeting | 16:36 |
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| bswartz | bbl | 16:36 |
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| devkulkarni | #topic Roll Call | 17:00 |
| devkulkarni | Devdatta Kulkarni | 17:00 |
| ashishjain | Ashish Jain | 17:00 |
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| devkulkarni | Good evening ashishjain | 17:00 |
| thingee | o/ | 17:00 |
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| devkulkarni | hi thingee | 17:00 |
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| muralia | o/ | 17:00 |
| dimtruck | o/ | 17:00 |
| ashishjain | good morning devkulkarni | 17:00 |
| muralia | hi all | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | hi muralia dimtruck | 17:01 |
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| ashishjain | o/ | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | here is the agenda for today's meeting: | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | please take a minute to look over the agenda | 17:01 |
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| vijendar1 | o/ | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | please add to if if you want to discuss anything | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | hi vijendar1 | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | alright.. | 17:02 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Announcements | 17:02 |
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| devkulkarni | Congratulations to Vijendar Komalla (vijendar1) on being promoted to core reviewer status. | 17:02 |
| devkulkarni | congrats vijendar1 | 17:02 |
| muralia | congrats! | 17:02 |
| vijendar1 | thanks devkulkarni muralia | 17:02 |
| devkulkarni | I had sent an email last week and we received all positive replies | 17:02 |
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| ashishjain | Congrats vijendar | 17:02 |
| vijendar1 | thanks ashishjain | 17:03 |
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| devkulkarni | vijendar1 is now a core reviewer (and has already exercised his +2 rights :)) | 17:03 |
| dimtruck | yay! | 17:03 |
| vijendar1 | :) | 17:03 |
| ashishjain | wow :) | 17:03 |
| devkulkarni | great work vijendar1 over last several months | 17:03 |
| devkulkarni | amazing to see your contributions | 17:03 |
| devkulkarni | keep up the good work | 17:03 |
| devkulkarni | any other announcement from anyone else? | 17:04 |
| devkulkarni | ok, lets move to next topic then | 17:04 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Review Action Items | 17:04 |
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| devkulkarni | there were no action items from last meeting | 17:05 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Blueprint/Bug review and Discussion | 17:05 |
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| devkulkarni | ok, so this topic has several things today | 17:05 |
| devkulkarni | lets go over them one by one | 17:05 |
| devkulkarni | 1) App parameters | 17:06 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267182/ | 17:06 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267809/ | 17:06 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar1: do you want to provide quick update on these patches? | 17:06 |
| devkulkarni | you had given context in the last meeting | 17:06 |
| devkulkarni | but there might be folks who were not there in that meeting | 17:06 |
| vijendar1 | devkulkarni: sure | 17:06 |
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| devkulkarni | cool, please proceed. floor is yours | 17:07 |
| vijendar1 | These patches enable us to provide custom parameters | 17:07 |
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| vijendar1 | current parameters file is a flat list of key value pairs | 17:08 |
| vijendar1 | with this change, you can group parameters into logical sections | 17:08 |
| devkulkarni | +1 vijendar1 | 17:08 |
| muralia | i thought i voted +2 on this last time. :) did i not? i remember we discussed this last week and i reviewed the patch. | 17:08 |
| muralia | im good with the changes. | 17:08 |
| devkulkarni | muralia: yes, we discussed this last time | 17:09 |
| devkulkarni | but both the patches need one more +2 | 17:09 |
| ashishjain | somehow I am unable to open the links | 17:09 |
| ashishjain | "Proxy Error" | 17:09 |
| muralia | yes, same here | 17:09 |
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| devkulkarni | ashishjain: hmm.. yeah, I have seen gerrit replying that way many times this week | 17:09 |
| vijendar1 | muralia: It seems you did not +2 last week | 17:09 |
| muralia | doing it now | 17:10 |
| devkulkarni | it just opened up for me | 17:10 |
| devkulkarni | after spinning for a while | 17:10 |
| vijendar1 | it opened for me as well | 17:10 |
| devkulkarni | probably gerrit servers are experiencing lot of load | 17:10 |
| dimtruck | it's an apache redirect error | 17:10 |
| dimtruck | are ya'll logged in? | 17:10 |
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| devkulkarni | good question dimtruck | 17:10 |
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| muralia | i logged in. it logged me out and failed again :) | 17:11 |
| vijendar1 | muralia: thanks | 17:11 |
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| dimtruck | :) sorry for the tangent | 17:11 |
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| vijendar1 | muralia: for +2 | 17:11 |
| devkulkarni | muralia: whenever you get a chance today, you can +2 the patches then (probably you already have) | 17:11 |
| muralia | sure | 17:11 |
| devkulkarni | in that case, thanks muralia | 17:11 |
| devkulkarni | cool | 17:12 |
| devkulkarni | so the next one is: | 17:12 |
| devkulkarni | 2) App scaling | 17:12 |
| devkulkarni | let me give an overview about this | 17:12 |
| devkulkarni | and then I can point to the three patches | 17:12 |
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| devkulkarni | so the basic requirement is we want to support something like 'solum app scale <app-name> <target> | 17:13 |
| devkulkarni | where target is the number of instances of that we want to create for an app | 17:13 |
| devkulkarni | upon receiving such a request, we want to deploy that many instances of the DU | 17:13 |
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| devkulkarni | consider when we have a backend such as Magnum/Carina | 17:14 |
| devkulkarni | we will have a deployer which will instantiate as many number of target instances as required.. if the currently deployed | 17:14 |
| devkulkarni | instances are 3, and the target is 5, we will add 2 more | 17:15 |
| devkulkarni | whereas if the current number of instances are 5 and the target is 1, we will delete 4 | 17:15 |
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| devkulkarni | when we go to multi-service/multi-container apps, the command line might look like | 17:15 |
| devkulkarni | solum app scale <app-name> <service1:target1> <service2:target2> | 17:16 |
| devkulkarni | but since we don't have support for multi-container apps yet, | 17:16 |
| devkulkarni | the current command line is just taking input the app-name and the target | 17:16 |
| devkulkarni | ok, so that is the high-level idea | 17:16 |
| devkulkarni | I have three patches which together setup the required infrastructure to implement above | 17:17 |
| devkulkarni | the first patch on the api side adds a column to the app table named 'scale_config' | 17:17 |
| devkulkarni | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275793/2 | 17:17 |
| devkulkarni | the data structure that is used is a json blob | 17:18 |
| muralia | what do you expect to put in there? will that be config for magnum or heat? | 17:18 |
| devkulkarni | muralia: the content will be three things (which are neither magnum related nor heat related) | 17:18 |
| devkulkarni | these are: <the specified target, current number of instances, location of the du> | 17:19 |
| devkulkarni | the specified target is what is sent in as part of the app scale command line | 17:19 |
| devkulkarni | the current number of instances is basically how many instances we were able to really create | 17:19 |
| devkulkarni | we need to maintain this as it is possible that while performing the scaling operation, we may fail in between | 17:20 |
| devkulkarni | and may not be able to create all the instances | 17:20 |
| vijendar1 | so target is the desired number of instances after executing scale command…correct? | 17:20 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar1: yes, that is correct. | 17:20 |
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| muralia | ah i see. this info is not really app related directly, so we put it there. why the location of DU though, we should already know that right. we are storing that somewhere | 17:20 |
| devkulkarni | muralia: so the reason to store DU info there is primarily for convenience purpose — that way all the information that is required for scaling is available in a single place | 17:21 |
| devkulkarni | but you are right, it is available in the Image table as well | 17:21 |
| vijendar1 | we may need du info, for example multi service app may have multiple DUs… | 17:21 |
| muralia | ok. | 17:22 |
| devkulkarni | that too.. although, for multi service apps also we will have the DU locations in the Image table | 17:22 |
| vijendar1 | you are right | 17:22 |
| devkulkarni | so technically, we are still duplicating the info | 17:22 |
| devkulkarni | but I think it is okay as it provides a single place with all the required info.. | 17:23 |
| devkulkarni | if we find it is becoming problematic, we can change that | 17:23 |
| vijendar1 | if required we can get rid of that info in future | 17:23 |
| devkulkarni | yes, that is what I am thinking | 17:23 |
| devkulkarni | good questions muralia | 17:23 |
| devkulkarni | now let me talk about the second patch | 17:23 |
| devkulkarni | hmm.. I am getting 503 Service unavailable | 17:24 |
| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit is restarting now, to alleviate current performance impact and WebUI errors. | 17:24 | |
| devkulkarni | let me just explain what the second patch is doing | 17:24 |
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| devkulkarni | so in the second patch, I am populating the scale_config column | 17:25 |
| devkulkarni | the main changes are in three places.. one, as part of the initial 'solum app deploy' call, we save the du location in the scale_config column. | 17:25 |
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| devkulkarni | second, as part of the 'solum app scale' call, we update that column with the value of scale_target that is passed in | 17:26 |
| devkulkarni | third, as part of the deployer, we inspect the scale_config column and then take appropriate action | 17:26 |
| devkulkarni | the third part is not implemented yet | 17:26 |
| devkulkarni | I will implement it in a follow up patch | 17:27 |
| devkulkarni | then there is the cli patch | 17:27 |
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| devkulkarni | this patch makes the changes to support 'solum app scale' command | 17:28 |
| muralia | thanks dev | 17:28 |
| devkulkarni | that is about it | 17:28 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar1: I have seen your comments on the patch | 17:28 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar1: I will address them today/tomorrow | 17:28 |
| ashishjain1 | Devkulkarni, was looking at all your 3 patches | 17:28 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain, muralia, dimtruck: please review the patches | 17:29 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain1: thanks | 17:29 |
| ashishjain1 | The deployment of multiple du's is yet to be implemented? | 17:29 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain1: yes, that is correct | 17:29 |
| ashishjain1 | In heat.py def scale | 17:29 |
| ashishjain1 | Is the one which will take the action as required? | 17:30 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain1: yes, the new scale api addition is to support scaling of a single container apps | 17:30 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain1: | 17:30 |
| devkulkarni | yes, that is correct | 17:30 |
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| ashishjain1 | So will you modify the generated heat template for this | 17:30 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain1: yes, we will have to do that | 17:30 |
| ashishjain1 | Heat has got tags for that? | 17:30 |
| ashishjain1 | Okay cool thanks for this | 17:31 |
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| devkulkarni | ashishjain1: will have to check what features, if any, are available in heat that we might be able to leverage for this | 17:31 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar1: do you think we might be able to use any heat features for single app scaling? | 17:31 |
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| devkulkarni | vijendar1: feel free to jump in later.. | 17:33 |
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| devkulkarni | lets move to the next one | 17:33 |
| ashishjain1 | Devkulkarni: Heat has got a autoscaling group | 17:33 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain1: oh that's correct | 17:33 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain1: yes, then we should definitely explore how might we use it | 17:33 |
| ashishjain1 | Which has got a field called min and max | 17:33 |
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| devkulkarni | yep, thanks for refreshing my memory | 17:33 |
| ashishjain1 | yeah we should see that | 17:34 |
| devkulkarni | agreed | 17:34 |
| devkulkarni | thanks ashishjain1 | 17:34 |
| devkulkarni | lets move to the next one in the list | 17:34 |
| devkulkarni | 3) Deploying pre-created DUs | 17:34 |
| devkulkarni | Ok, let me give background on this one | 17:34 |
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| devkulkarni | the basic idea is to be able to deploy a DU without building it first.. such a DU might be available, say, from a CI run that has happened outside of Solum | 17:35 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain1 has implemented a poc of doing just this | 17:35 |
| devkulkarni | he has a setup where CI is done by Jenkins, completely out of Solum | 17:35 |
| devkulkarni | and then Solum is called only to deploy the DU | 17:36 |
| devkulkarni | the patches below are first step in supporting this use case | 17:36 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271111/ | 17:36 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271115/ | 17:36 |
| devkulkarni | the first link is api side changes | 17:36 |
| devkulkarni | the second link is cli side changes | 17:37 |
| devkulkarni | currently on the api side, I have implemented support only for DUs that are stored in glance | 17:37 |
| devkulkarni | from the cli, you can pass in glance image id of the DU and that will be deployed, without going through the build and test steps | 17:38 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar1: I saw your comments on the patch, I will address them today/tomorrow | 17:38 |
| devkulkarni | others, please review the patches | 17:38 |
| vijendar1 | devkulkarni: thanks | 17:38 |
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| devkulkarni | alright, lets look at two other items next | 17:39 |
| devkulkarni | 4) Converting bash scripts to Python | 17:39 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196498/ | 17:39 |
| devkulkarni | this is currently in merge conflict | 17:40 |
| devkulkarni | I have pinged james_li to take a look at it | 17:40 |
| devkulkarni | hopefully this will be merged soon | 17:40 |
| devkulkarni | thanks muralia for approving the other bash-to-python patch from james_li | 17:40 |
| muralia | sure | 17:40 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar1: if you have any comments on bash-to-python patch, please add them to the currently outstanding patch | 17:41 |
| vijendar1 | devkulkarni: sure | 17:41 |
| devkulkarni | alright.. the last one is about cutting a release | 17:41 |
| devkulkarni | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/086152.html | 17:41 |
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| devkulkarni | this morning ttx sent an email listing projects who need to do releases in next few weeks | 17:42 |
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| devkulkarni | since we are now using release-with-intermediate cycle, we need to release something before april 1st | 17:42 |
| devkulkarni | just wanted to bring this to everyone's attention | 17:42 |
| devkulkarni | what I would like to do is | 17:42 |
| devkulkarni | merge as many of the currently outstanding patches as possible in next two weeks | 17:43 |
| devkulkarni | then, in the second week of march I will propose a change to the release repo with the commit | 17:43 |
| devkulkarni | for release | 17:43 |
| devkulkarni | so everyone's help in reviewing and approving patches will be good | 17:44 |
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| devkulkarni | alright.. we have fifteen minutes for open discussion now | 17:44 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Open Discussion | 17:44 |
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| devkulkarni | lets quickly go through the first topic and then we can discuss install docs | 17:45 |
| devkulkarni | 1) Austin summit | 17:45 |
| devkulkarni | We have submitted three talks -- one by ashishjain and devkulkarni, another by vijendar and devkulkarni, and another by mkam, dimtruck, and two openstack security contributors. Will post the links when I have them. | 17:45 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck: have you seen the links for voting anywhere? | 17:45 |
| devkulkarni | I have not | 17:45 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain1: Travel support: February 9, 2016 (https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/austin-and-travel/#travel-support) | 17:46 |
| devkulkarni | deadline is today | 17:46 |
| devkulkarni | to apply to travel support | 17:46 |
| ashishjain1 | Ya i have not submitted i am relying on my org :) | 17:46 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain1: :) sounds good | 17:46 |
| ashishjain1 | Btw have not received atc code | 17:47 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain1: they should send out another batch in next couple of weeks | 17:47 |
| ashishjain1 | Ok | 17:47 |
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| devkulkarni | alright.. lets talk about next topic | 17:47 |
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| devkulkarni | (thingee) Install docs | 17:48 |
| thingee | so install docs, what's available today for solumn? | 17:48 |
| devkulkarni | floor is yours thingee | 17:48 |
| dimtruck | i have not devkulkarni (sorry, my irc client froze) | 17:48 |
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| devkulkarni | thingee: we have an architecture diagram on how solum can be deployed in prod | 17:48 |
| thingee | link? | 17:48 |
| devkulkarni | beyond that, we have some chef receipes that we use internally at rax | 17:48 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck: you might want to add | 17:49 |
| devkulkarni | thingee: let me get it | 17:49 |
| dimtruck | yeah, i'm looking for it too | 17:49 |
| thingee | ok, so people who aren't rackspace and don't use chef will have some trouble? | 17:49 |
| dimtruck | thingee: not necessarily | 17:49 |
| dimtruck | the main chef codebase to deploy paas is in https://github.com/rackerlabs/cookbook-openstack-paas | 17:49 |
| dimtruck | all rackspace bits do is override a few attributes in that cookbook | 17:50 |
| devkulkarni | also, I think ashishjain1 your team is working on kolla based deployment for solum, right? | 17:50 |
| dimtruck | #link https://github.com/rackerlabs/cookbook-openstack-paas | 17:50 |
| thingee | Yeah ok, I was a bit afraid of this. So just from an outsiders perspective, I attempted over the weekend to figure out solum. When you go to the wiki you're presented with a vagrant demo. | 17:50 |
| thingee | I don't use chef | 17:50 |
| thingee | I don't believe vagrant is install option | 17:50 |
| ashishjain1 | Devkulkarni yeah | 17:50 |
| thingee | and I don't know what each process is to figure out how to run things. | 17:51 |
| thingee | The project has existed since late 2013, so I'm curious why figuring this out is still difficult | 17:51 |
| devkulkarni | thingee: I see.. this is great feedback | 17:51 |
| devkulkarni | feedback | 17:51 |
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| devkulkarni | thingee: agreed that there is scope for improvement for our devstack and vagrant docs | 17:52 |
| thingee | I do understand generally how OpenStack projects work being former ptl for cinder and a contributor for a while now and I can't even figure it out, or how to run things in a liberty environment. | 17:52 |
| dimtruck | so you're right in that if you don't use chef, it'll be more challenging. vagrant is being upgraded to use devstack plugins and should be ready shortly (i believe that are a few patches in progress) | 17:53 |
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| thingee | the main reason I bring this up though is because I'm interested in presenting to app developers how to use openstack. I saw the early presentations by Adrian otto an it's impressive, but I'm curious what public clouds make use of it, or even how to deploy it for private cloud cases. | 17:53 |
| dimtruck | thingee: in that case, and we'll need to document that more explicitly, but it's just enable_service solum and enable_service python-solumclient | 17:53 |
| devkulkarni | that is correct dimtruck.. we haven't completely converted our vagrant setup to use devstack plugin model | 17:53 |
| thingee | I'm looking at murano and the new anisble 2.0 module which hides a lot of bad openstack api details behind shade. But I appreciate you all listening to me rant. | 17:54 |
| dimtruck | but yes, that is good feedback, and we'll update documentation to alleviate your concerns | 17:54 |
| devkulkarni | thingee: this is great feedback actually | 17:54 |
| dimtruck | devkulkarni: if there's a bug for docs out there, assign it to me | 17:54 |
| dimtruck | i'll take care of it | 17:54 |
| dimtruck | if not, i'll create one haha | 17:54 |
| devkulkarni | thingee: our most recent user/contributor from outside of rax has been ashishjain1 | 17:54 |
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| devkulkarni | ashishjain1: would you mind sharing your experience with all of us? | 17:55 |
| ashishjain1 | Sure | 17:55 |
| kzaitsev_mb | someone said murano and I'm a bit out of the loop, but willing to help/clarify things, if that's possible ) | 17:55 |
| ashishjain1 | It has been great working with all you guys | 17:55 |
| thingee | so is there anybody making use of solum today? I hear rackspace, but I haven't found an GUI similar to the one presented on solum's wiki on rackspace's portal | 17:55 |
| ashishjain1 | I am still in the learning phase about solum and of course openstack | 17:56 |
| dimtruck | thingee: solum is in internal beta at rackspace right now | 17:56 |
| devkulkarni | thingee: internally we had a UI which is different than the horizon ui.. but is not yet integrated with rax's main ui portal | 17:56 |
| dimtruck | right | 17:57 |
| thingee | kzaitsev_mb: it was me. And I don't believe there is confusion. I'm trying to find things that are readily everybody today to talk about with app developers and other users. | 17:57 |
| ashishjain1 | And have been getting good guidance from all and an awesome mentor like dev | 17:57 |
| devkulkarni | thingee: I believe there is some interest by ashishjain1's org as well | 17:57 |
| thingee | ok good information everyone. thanks again! | 17:57 |
| dimtruck | thank YOU | 17:57 |
| devkulkarni | thanks thingee for trying out solum | 17:58 |
| devkulkarni | sorry that the experience was not smooth | 17:58 |
| devkulkarni | we will take your feedback and look to improving the first user/operator experience | 17:58 |
| devkulkarni | alright.. we are almost at the end of our meeting time | 17:59 |
| devkulkarni | thanks everyone for joining today.. we had great discussion | 17:59 |
| thingee | Yeah I just worry with projects that have existed a bit and adoption. If this isn't something available across public clouds, it's difficult to rely on from users looking a federated cloud cases. | 18:00 |
| devkulkarni | I am available on solum irc today (and everyday) | 18:00 |
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| devkulkarni | point noted thingee .. good to have you today.. hopefully you will join more of our meetings | 18:00 |
| dimtruck | thingee: very valid concern. and i'd say that before the last couple of weeks (integration with magnum, scaling, workflow fixes), it was very hard to utilize solum to full extent | 18:00 |
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| devkulkarni | good point dimtruck | 18:01 |
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| devkulkarni | hopefully, we are now able to showcase value of solum more | 18:01 |
| devkulkarni | thanks everyone for joining today | 18:01 |
| devkulkarni | see you all next week | 18:01 |
| devkulkarni | #endmeeting | 18:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 9 18:02:03 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-02-09-17.00.html | 18:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-02-09-17.00.txt | 18:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-02-09-17.00.log.html | 18:02 |
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| briancurtin | #startmeeting python-openstacksdk | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 9 19:00:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is briancurtin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: python-openstacksdk)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'python_openstacksdk' | 19:00 |
| etoews | o/ | 19:00 |
| briancurtin | rtheis you around? i don’t see terry online at all | 19:00 |
| rtheis | hi | 19:01 |
| rtheis | I have another meeting running at the same time so may be distracted for a bit | 19:01 |
| briancurtin | rtheis: all good, not much to discuss - i have a small update and then i know etoews has a thing | 19:02 |
| briancurtin | i’m going to kick it off with an update on what i’ve been working on. it’s been in circles a few times, but i think i’m on the right path | 19:02 |
| briancurtin | after going down a few rabbit holes that ended up being impossible with props being descriptors, i looked at maybe moving away from them being that, but it harms usability, so i think i can keep them intact but just change how we store things. since we’ve been putting headers together with body props in the _attrs dict, i’m looking at storing them | 19:04 |
| briancurtin | completely separately and splitting how headers and body props work under the hood, while enabling URI-only props. i think through that it should help an issue everett saw with some services being strict about what they receive, so we’d be able to specify that certain things are read-only or for requests or something like that, so that we’re not sending | 19:04 |
| briancurtin | more data than we need to (or more than the server can work with) | 19:04 |
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| briancurtin | there hasn’t been a lot to show for it because there has been a lot of starting and stopping, heading another direction, running into the same road block, and then going back to the drawing board. i should be able to get a lot further with this, it just touches a lot of places and i need to figure out some good internal APIs for working with it | 19:05 |
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| etoews | that sounds like a lot of work | 19:06 |
| briancurtin | sort of, but i don’t think it’s work we can avoid | 19:06 |
| etoews | seems like it could be helpful down the road too though | 19:06 |
| rtheis | indeed | 19:06 |
| etoews | once openstack gets stricter about the requests it accepts | 19:07 |
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| briancurtin | i’m going to try to minimize the change and just focus on getting the public stuff right so that we can release a 1.0, if it’s possible to split it up at all. i don’t really know how the full change is going to turn out right now though | 19:09 |
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| briancurtin | anyway, that’s where that’s at. etoews do you want to talk about the metadata stuff? | 19:10 |
| etoews | sure | 19:10 |
| etoews | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1487150 | 19:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1487150 in OpenStack SDK "Object store set_object_metadata is a bit oddball" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Everett Toews (everett-toews) | 19:11 |
| etoews | so starting on that has basically been pulling a loose thread on a sweater. | 19:11 |
| etoews | first i ran into this https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1488269/ | 19:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1488269 in OpenStack SDK "Object get needs to be smarter about what headers it sends" [Undecided,New] | 19:12 |
| etoews | i got sort of figured that one out (haven't sent a any new commits though) | 19:13 |
| etoews | then i learned of the horrific inconsistency in metadata handling between account/container and object in object store http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-objectstorage-v1.html | 19:13 |
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| etoews | to smooth over that inconsistency it's got me considering redesigning the way compute handles metadata | 19:15 |
| etoews | here's what i'm thinking | 19:15 |
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| etoews | the object store proxy would have a metadata interface like | 19:16 |
| etoews | get_metadata(self, resource, key=None) | 19:16 |
| etoews | create_metadata(self, resource, **metadata) | 19:16 |
| etoews | replace_metadata(self, resource, **metadata) | 19:16 |
| etoews | update_metadata(self, resource, **metadata) | 19:16 |
| etoews | delete_metadata(self, resource, key) | 19:16 |
| etoews | (very similar to compute) | 19:16 |
| etoews | resource would have to be an instance of an account, container, or object, just so we can switch on the resource type to do the appropriate thing and `**metadata` would be able to update both custom metadata and regular metadata. | 19:17 |
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| etoews | to keep things things consistent we'd want to change the metadata interface in compute to match | 19:17 |
| etoews | although that would be part of a different patch set and not that difficult to do. | 19:18 |
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| etoews | we'd also need to look at the image service metadata/properties/whatever-they-call-it to be sure that interface would work there too. | 19:19 |
| briancurtin | etoews and i already sort of talked about this, but yeah, i’m on board with it. consistency across the board, and allows us to fix some of the issues object_store has with its own inconsistencies | 19:20 |
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| etoews | all in all it's a ridiculous amount of work just to set key/value pairs on resources :/ | 19:20 |
| briancurtin | yep, but another one of those things we should spend the time to get right before shipping an inconsistent 1.0 that we can’t really change without a 2.0 | 19:21 |
| etoews | ya. better to get this stuff in now. | 19:21 |
| etoews | rtheis: is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270900/ updated on what we discussed last week ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1461200/comments/9 )? | 19:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1461200 in OpenStack SDK "Create basic resource.props for id and ids attributes" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Richard Theis (rtheis) | 19:22 |
| rtheis | etoews: yes, I updated based last week's discussion | 19:23 |
| rtheis | It is China holiday now so maybe Qiming is out | 19:23 |
| etoews | thx. i'll give it another review. | 19:24 |
| briancurtin | same | 19:24 |
| etoews | year of the monkey! | 19:24 |
| rtheis | :) | 19:24 |
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| etoews | year of the code monkey! | 19:25 |
| briancurtin | anything else going on? | 19:26 |
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| etoews | not so much | 19:28 |
| rtheis | nothing else here | 19:28 |
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| briancurtin | alrighty then, back to the grind i guess | 19:29 |
| briancurtin | #endmeeting | 19:29 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 9 19:29:36 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2016/python_openstacksdk.2016-02-09-19.00.html | 19:29 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2016/python_openstacksdk.2016-02-09-19.00.txt | 19:29 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2016/python_openstacksdk.2016-02-09-19.00.log.html | 19:29 |
| etoews | thx | 19:30 |
| rtheis | thanks | 19:30 |
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