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| reedip | hello | 06:28 |
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| fawadkhaliq | hi reedip | 06:29 |
| reedip | #startmeeting taas | 06:29 |
| soichi | Hi | 06:29 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 10 06:29:29 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is reedip. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 06:29 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 06:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: taas)" | 06:29 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'taas' | 06:29 |
| kaz | hello | 06:29 |
| reedip | As no one was there, I started it...hope its ok | 06:29 |
| fawadkhaliq | hi guys | 06:30 |
| anil_rao | Hi | 06:30 |
| reedip | Hi fawadkhaliq, kaz, anil_rao, soichi, yamamoto | 06:30 |
| yamamoto | hi | 06:30 |
| reedip | so lets start the meeting | 06:30 |
| reedip | #topic : Agenda | 06:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Agenda (Meeting topic: taas)" | 06:30 | |
| reedip | #link : https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/taas | 06:31 |
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| reedip | So as per the last discussion, lets pick up the points mentioned in the link | 06:32 |
| reedip | a) Review of the l2 extension | 06:32 |
| reedip | I have done it a bit, but not too much. Vinay would also chip in when he is available, I guess . | 06:32 |
| fawadkhaliq | reedip: I have it | 06:33 |
| fawadkhaliq | done it | 06:33 |
| fawadkhaliq | infact been part of the design of l2-gateway :-) | 06:33 |
| fawadkhaliq | Let me know what information we are looking for around l2-gateway | 06:33 |
| reedip | fawadkhaliq : great , then you can help us with the implementation of TaaS as an L2 extension | 06:33 |
| fawadkhaliq | Sorry I missed the last meeting; was out sick. | 06:33 |
| fawadkhaliq | reedip: Yes | 06:33 |
| fawadkhaliq | l2-gateway has a nice implementation that it uses neutron standard ports for external endpoints | 06:34 |
| fawadkhaliq | mapping to vlans/ports on the physical switches behind VTEPs | 06:34 |
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| reedip | fawadkhaliq: do you have any documentation for the same? would be great and help us understand the model as well | 06:34 |
| fawadkhaliq | so from the API/design perspective, we just need to make sure we can support *any* type of Neutron port rather than just compute ports. | 06:35 |
| fawadkhaliq | reedip: this will also make sure we align TaaS with container networking work I am working on in parallel and VLAN aware VMs will be introduced and TaaS will work seamlessly there as well | 06:35 |
| fawadkhaliq | reedip: sure, let me find something use for you guys | 06:35 |
| fawadkhaliq | please assign an action item to me | 06:36 |
| fawadkhaliq | s/use/useful/ | 06:36 |
| reedip | #action : fawadkhaliq to share some of the documents used in L2 gateway, for implementation of TaaS as a Neutron L2 extension | 06:36 |
| fawadkhaliq | reedip: thanks | 06:36 |
| reedip | anyone else wants to add something to the L2 extension discussion? | 06:37 |
| fawadkhaliq | I can share some details on the use case | 06:37 |
| fawadkhaliq | so the idea is that the destination can be a virtual instances or a physical appliance behind l2-gateway connections. | 06:38 |
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| fawadkhaliq | The most common/most requested use case I have seen is actually around devices which are outside the virtual env, so l2-gateway fits perfectly in this area, where a physical machines maps to a VLAN/port and is associated to a Neutron network via standard port construct, which has IP and other metadata. | 06:39 |
| fawadkhaliq | this was a quick summary for everyone's benefit :) that's all | 06:40 |
| reedip | fawadkhaliq: thanks for the summary :) | 06:41 |
| reedip | does anyone else want to add something, or should we move on ? | 06:42 |
| reedip | Okay moving on | 06:43 |
| reedip | #topic Addition of Tap-as-a-service to Governance | 06:43 |
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| reedip | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229869/ | 06:43 |
| reedip | yamamoto proposed the above link , for submission of TaaS into Governance , as well as Neutron Stadium | 06:44 |
| reedip | now TaaS seems like a good model for the Neutron Stadium, but with the recent discussions about which projects can be a part of the stadium and which should not, I think we can remove the dependancy of TaaS being a part of Neutron Stadium right now, and concentrate on its acceptance into governance | 06:45 |
| reedip | thoughts/comments anyone??? | 06:45 |
| yamamoto | i guess we should wait for the discussion settled | 06:46 |
| fawadkhaliq | yamamoto: +1 | 06:46 |
| yamamoto | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278025/ | 06:46 |
| fawadkhaliq | Russell has two patches around this | 06:46 |
| fawadkhaliq | we can probably wait for those to get finalized so we don't have to change later | 06:46 |
| yamamoto | this review covers us i believe. if you have any opinion how it should be, it's time to chime in. | 06:48 |
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| reedip | yamamoto: +1 | 06:49 |
| fawadkhaliq | so maybe action item for TaaS team to review these patches? | 06:49 |
| reedip | yamamoto: but I think most of the neutron folks are in favor of keeping advanced services separate, atleast for now | 06:49 |
| yamamoto | fawadkhaliq: yes | 06:50 |
| reedip | fawadkhaliq: yes, it would be good | 06:50 |
| reedip | #action All: review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278025/ and see how it syncs up with TaaS | 06:50 |
| yamamoto | my impressions is either in or out are fine for taas. | 06:51 |
| reedip | yamamoto: Having it in Neutron would help us with neutron core-drivers team, in a way | 06:51 |
| reedip | yamamoto: having it outside neutron gives us an independent scope , and ability to drive it ourselves, with helpful inputs from the Neutron core team | 06:52 |
| reedip | if TaaS is to be considered a separately driven team, with its own objectives and goals, but with good amount of inputs from Neutron, then even having it outside works | 06:53 |
| yamamoto | reedip: i guess it's the other way around. governance should just reflect the reality. | 06:54 |
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| yamamoto | let's go over the rest of topics. | 06:55 |
| reedip | yeah moving on | 06:56 |
| reedip | #topic : Two +2 voting | 06:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Two +2 voting (Meeting topic: taas)" | 06:56 | |
| reedip | anil_rao , in the last meeting we considered that Two +2 voting should be good for TaaS patches | 06:56 |
| fawadkhaliq | +2 to 2 +2s ;-) | 06:57 |
| reedip | anil_rao: I think this has to be enabled by Repository Owner in gerrit itself.... if so, and if everyone agrees with the Two +2 voting, can we enable it in gerrit? | 06:57 |
| reedip | ok, I got fawadkhaliq 's vote :) | 06:57 |
| vnyyad | spoke to anil_rao over this and we agree to that... we need 2 core reviewers saying yes | 06:58 |
| yamamoto | reedip: i don't think it can/should be forced by gerrit. it's just a policy. | 06:58 |
| vnyyad | reedip, fawadkhaliq: +2 | 06:59 |
| reedip | yamamoto: I dont know how to enable it, just asked it from the tempest team-member :) | 06:59 |
| reedip | vnyyad: welcome :) and I guess you and anil_rao are the 2 core for TaaS, isnt it? | 06:59 |
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| vnyyad | yes... but i guess we should also expand the core reviewers by another 2 | 07:00 |
| fawadkhaliq | vnyyad: +1 | 07:00 |
| reedip | vnyyad : yes, this is something we discussed last week as well, but was cut short due to time lapse | 07:00 |
| fawadkhaliq | given we are making progress and there will be work around this area moving forward. | 07:00 |
| reedip | does everyone else agree with increasing the core reviewers? | 07:01 |
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| vnyyad | fawad, reedip: +1 | 07:01 |
| yamamoto | reedip: +1 | 07:01 |
| fawadkhaliq | reedip: +1 | 07:01 |
| soichi | +1 | 07:01 |
| kaz | +1 | 07:01 |
| reedip | Okay, I guess, majority ( reedip +1 ) votes are in favor | 07:02 |
| muawiakhan | +1 | 07:02 |
| yamamoto | vnyyad: anil_rao: you should propose new core reviewers on openstack-dev as other projects do. | 07:02 |
| reedip | vnyyad, anil_rao : I think the next step would be proposal from your end as to who would be the new core reviewer | 07:02 |
| reedip | yamamoto: you beat me to it :) +1 | 07:02 |
| vnyyad | yamamoto: sure, we shall do it by next week, i will speak with anil on this tomorrow in his morning | 07:03 |
| reedip | #action : vnyyad, anil_rao to propose new core reviewers in the openstack-dev ML | 07:03 |
| reedip | okay, moving on, one important news | 07:03 |
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| reedip | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/vote-for-speakers/Presentation/8529 | 07:04 |
| reedip | Our summit session is up for vote | 07:04 |
| reedip | so I hope everyone knows what to do :) | 07:04 |
| fawadkhaliq | reedip: lol | 07:04 |
| fawadkhaliq | done! | 07:04 |
| soichi | i added "+3" | 07:04 |
| kaz | done. | 07:05 |
| reedip | for those who dont, do click on the link , and if you consider Tap as a Service to be a good session , provide it the votes :) | 07:05 |
| fawadkhaliq | and please do evangelize with your peers from community :-) | 07:05 |
| reedip | #action : all : vote for the summit session, if you like it :) | 07:05 |
| reedip | okay, thats it for the points in the Agenda . | 07:06 |
| soichi | currently, we are under making update Horizon dashbpard for TaaS. | 07:06 |
| reedip | #topic : open-discussion | 07:06 |
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| soichi | we have re-designed to support options offered by TaaS CLI. | 07:06 |
| soichi | i wish it is useful for demo. | 07:06 |
| reedip | soichi , thats a great idea actually :) | 07:06 |
| anil_rao | If its okay with folks I'd like to bring forth a concern I have regarding the TaaS project | 07:07 |
| reedip | end users would love to see something graphical, than a black screen with white text :) | 07:07 |
| reedip | anil_rao : sure | 07:07 |
| fawadkhaliq | anil_rao: please do | 07:07 |
| anil_rao | The main issue I see is that the TaaS project, despite being in existence for more than 1.5 years is still not available to customers in an official capacity. | 07:08 |
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| anil_rao | We constantly get asked by our customers as to what is keeping something as simple as port-mirroring from making it into OpenStack. After some soul seraching, I think we might be overdesigning the project, at least at this juncture. | 07:09 |
| vnyyad | anil_rao: +1 | 07:09 |
| anil_rao | IMHO what we should start out with is simple mirroring of Neutron ports -- source port(s) --> destination port. The existing API is sufficient to support this. | 07:10 |
| reedip | anil_rao : +1 | 07:10 |
| fawadkhaliq | anil_rao: agree with it. should we make it a phased approach to cater for other use cases as well? | 07:11 |
| soichi | anil_rao: +1 | 07:11 |
| vnyyad | fawadkhaliq: yes, in phases | 07:11 |
| anil_rao | Yes, I support the idea of a phased implementation. | 07:11 |
| vnyyad | anil_rao: +1 | 07:11 |
| fawadkhaliq | vnyyad: anil_rao so currently we have something that works | 07:11 |
| reedip | fawadkhaliq, anil_rao : complicated things can be moved to a differentversion ( like we have for FW and LB ) | 07:11 |
| fawadkhaliq | i was thinking we could something like phase 1, phase 2 on the design | 07:12 |
| anil_rao | that would be the idea. | 07:12 |
| anil_rao | If we want the support of the user and provider community then we must deliver something. | 07:12 |
| vnyyad | first thing is to build confidence in potential users that we will get something in.. | 07:12 |
| fawadkhaliq | where we have the current design, we revert to the original design which works and right after we propose the additional changes. Like Policy, Networks etc | 07:12 |
| anil_rao | Yes! | 07:13 |
| vnyyad | fawadkhaliq: +1 | 07:13 |
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| reedip | so we are looking at delivering the working model for release in Austin Session :) | 07:13 |
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| anil_rao | That was what we all were thinking when we met in Tokyo. However, I am not sure if that will be possible at this time. What do you all feel? | 07:14 |
| fawadkhaliq | anil_rao: I think its ambitious to make a release in Mitaka | 07:16 |
| yamamoto | i think it's possible to make a release for M, as far as we concentrate into minimum functionality | 07:16 |
| fawadkhaliq | that's my opinion, given we are a few weeks away | 07:16 |
| fawadkhaliq | and we have goverances etc still not sorted | 07:16 |
| fawadkhaliq | we also have to think about packaging, testing, documentation etc | 07:16 |
| reedip | anil_rao: lets checkout the current code, see what is lacking from the minimum functionality, and then fix it up | 07:16 |
| fawadkhaliq | so lots of things to be taken care of | 07:16 |
| vnyyad | yamamoto: i guess we should aim for that, what do you say | 07:16 |
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| reedip | fawadkhaliq: packaging via devstack is already done . Is there anything else we need to do ? | 07:17 |
| anil_rao | The minimum functionality IMHO is mirroring traffic from ports beloning to one or more VMs to another VM belonging to the same tenant. The source and destination ports may not be on the same compute node. | 07:18 |
| fawadkhaliq | reedip: was thinking more on the lines for deb/rpm for taas, CLI etc. | 07:18 |
| anil_rao | We had this working during the Vancouver TaaS demo. There are, however, some hardening aspects that need to be looked into -- failure scenarios and such. | 07:19 |
| anil_rao | Let me pull out the latest version and give it a good run. I'll report back with my findings... | 07:19 |
| reedip | fawadkhaliq: Oh ok, CLI is also up with neutronclient , for deb/rpm we can discuss later. | 07:19 |
| reedip | anil_rao: do you have any feedback from the Vancouver session ? you can maybe share it with us and we can also have a look at it? | 07:20 |
| anil_rao | The main feedback was how soon can this be available in an official OpenStack release. :-) | 07:21 |
| reedip | anil_rao : we need to work on the governance patch for that :) | 07:22 |
| reedip | along with the actual code | 07:22 |
| vnyyad | anil_rao: i still get that feedback :) | 07:22 |
| fawadkhaliq | anil_rao: reedip vnyyad so the next step is that anil_rao will play with the current implementation and we revert the spec to its original state and propose the additional API changes on top that can be worked after/in parallel.? | 07:22 |
| anil_rao | My main fear is that if TaaS gets more delayed, there will be alternative proposals to essentially solve the same problem and that will further complicate our chances of getting accepted. | 07:22 |
| yamamoto | fawadkhaliq: sounds good to me | 07:23 |
| reedip | yamamoto: is it necessary for TaaS to be a part of the neutron stadium right now, or can we propose it later on, first focussing on its inclusion in Openstack offciially? | 07:23 |
| reedip | fawadkhaliq : +2 | 07:23 |
| vnyyad | fawadkhaliq: base version first, additional feature next? | 07:23 |
| reedip | 4 minutes left.... | 07:23 |
| fawadkhaliq | reedip: I would say we sort the governance for sure. | 07:23 |
| yamamoto | reedip: i guess either ways we need to wait for the staduim concept discussion | 07:24 |
| vnyyad | fawadkhaliq: +1 | 07:24 |
| reedip | yamamoto: okay, lets check it for another 1-2 weeks ,if it doesnt conclude, then we can proceed ourselves for governance for TaaS as a separate project . Sounds ok ? | 07:24 |
| reedip | #action: anil_rao to run the latest code, and get back with what features are missing and need to be added for Mitaka Release | 07:25 |
| yamamoto | reedip: it's ok, but i guess we'll be told to wait anyway :-) | 07:25 |
| reedip | okay, one minute, anything left ? | 07:26 |
| fawadkhaliq | yes | 07:26 |
| reedip | fire away :) | 07:26 |
| fawadkhaliq | reedip: I will update the spec to the original state | 07:26 |
| yamamoto | does "openstack official" matter much? we can say "this is a tap-as-a-service official release" :-) | 07:27 |
| fawadkhaliq | please assign the action to me | 07:27 |
| fawadkhaliq | and also share the next steps | 07:27 |
| anil_rao | yamamoto: Either way is fine. The problem is what will an actual service provider use in their production clouds. | 07:27 |
| reedip | #action fawadkhaliq: revert TaaS spec to the original state. | 07:27 |
| yamamoto | fawadkhaliq: please keep ideas and feedback in a section, rather than simply reverting. | 07:28 |
| fawadkhaliq | yamamoto: great idea | 07:28 |
| fawadkhaliq | thanks | 07:28 |
| anil_rao | +1. | 07:28 |
| vnyyad | yamamoto: +1 | 07:28 |
| fawadkhaliq | yamamoto: will keep a section | 07:28 |
| fawadkhaliq | and add a follow up patch | 07:28 |
| fawadkhaliq | yamamoto: and i can work on that | 07:28 |
| reedip | yeah thats good, but time to end the meeting now :) | 07:28 |
| reedip | yamamoto: +1 | 07:28 |
| reedip | catch you guys next week | 07:28 |
| fawadkhaliq | thanks everyone | 07:29 |
| anil_rao | Thanks and bye... | 07:29 |
| fawadkhaliq | bye | 07:29 |
| soichi | bye | 07:29 |
| yamamoto | bye | 07:29 |
| reedip | #endmeeting | 07:29 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 10 07:29:15 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 07:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-02-10-06.29.html | 07:29 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-02-10-06.29.txt | 07:29 |
| kaz | bye | 07:29 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-02-10-06.29.log.html | 07:29 |
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| ifat_afek_ | #startmeeting vitrage | 09:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 10 09:00:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 09:00 |
| ifat_afek_ | Hi everyone :-) | 09:00 |
| eyalb | hi | 09:00 |
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| lhartal | hi all :) | 09:01 |
| amir_gur | Hi | 09:01 |
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| alexey_weyl | Hello there :) | 09:01 |
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| idan_hefetz | hi | 09:01 |
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| umargolin | Hi | 09:02 |
| elisha_r | Hi all | 09:03 |
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| emalin | hi | 09:03 |
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| ifat_afek_ | #topic Current status | 09:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current status (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 09:05 | |
| ifat_afek_ | We have made great progress this week. We managed to see nagios alarms in horizon UI. | 09:05 |
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| ifat_afek_ | lhartal and I worked on nagios synchronizer plugin and its transformer. Basic integration is working, I still need to define the nagios configuration file. I hope to update nagios blueprint today or tomorrow so you can review it, and then start the implementation | 09:06 |
| ifat_afek_ | We updated our wiki page. It now contains several design documents, worth to have a look: | 09:06 |
| ifat_afek_ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Vitrage | 09:06 |
| ifat_afek_ | Who else wants to update? | 09:07 |
| elisha_r | Work on the Evaluator Processor is progressing nicely. The past week helped iron out alot of the issues we need to address here, such as modeling and performance. | 09:07 |
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| lhartal | Last week I worked on the templates validation | 09:08 |
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| omer_etrog_ | hi | 09:08 |
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| lhartal | It contains only syntax validation (we use the Voluptuous package) | 09:09 |
| lhartal | When template is invalid, we write it into log file and it is skipped | 09:09 |
| ifat_afek_ | thanks lhartal and elisha_r | 09:09 |
| alexey_weyl | I have an update as well | 09:10 |
| alexey_weyl | I have finished to write the static physical synchronizer and transformer | 09:10 |
| alexey_weyl | I checked it and it works | 09:10 |
| alexey_weyl | so our progress with the synchronizers looks good :) | 09:11 |
| ifat_afek_ | alexey_weyl: cool! so we can have switches in our topology tree? | 09:11 |
| alexey_weyl | yes :) | 09:11 |
| ifat_afek_ | omer_etrog_, can you update about the new alarms ui? | 09:11 |
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| omer_etrog_ | yes | 09:13 |
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| omer_etrog_ | we add new Alert screen that show all the alerts that the Vitrage aggregate | 09:13 |
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| omer_etrog_ | we also add the Alert section in the Server screen where we already show the sunburest | 09:14 |
| omer_etrog_ | we have good progress about the RCA model | 09:15 |
| ifat_afek_ | omer_etrog_: both look great. are you done with these screens, or is there some work left? | 09:15 |
| omer_etrog_ | for now I done, I will push the code today | 09:15 |
| omer_etrog_ | later we will add the RCA | 09:16 |
| ifat_afek_ | omer_etrog_: great, thanks | 09:16 |
| ifat_afek_ | anything else in the ui? | 09:16 |
| omer_etrog_ | no. we still work on the localisation | 09:17 |
| ifat_afek_ | omer_etrog_: ok, thanks | 09:17 |
| ifat_afek_ | who wants to update now? | 09:17 |
| eyalb | i have an update | 09:17 |
| eyalb | i added the rca and get alarms api | 09:17 |
| eyalb | thats it | 09:17 |
| ifat_afek_ | eyalb: so I understand that omer_etrog_ is already using both apis? | 09:18 |
| eyalb | yes | 09:18 |
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| ifat_afek_ | and are they finished, or is there some work left? | 09:18 |
| eyalb | there might be a little bit more work | 09:19 |
| eyalb | documentation | 09:19 |
| eyalb | tests | 09:19 |
| ifat_afek_ | eyalb: documentation is important :-) | 09:19 |
| ifat_afek_ | and we should all add tests I guess... | 09:19 |
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| ifat_afek_ | eyalb: thanks | 09:19 |
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| lhartal | I have more updates | 09:20 |
| lhartal | we try to understand how to work with states in Vitrage | 09:20 |
| lhartal | We found out that we have 3 types of states: | 09:20 |
| lhartal | Monitored state – the state as we received from the synchronizer | 09:21 |
| lhartal | Deduced_state (vitrage state) | 09:21 |
| lhartal | Aggregated state – combination of both monitored and deduced states | 09:21 |
| lhartal | Also we need to normalize the states so Vitrage will not contain infinite list of states | 09:21 |
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| lhartal | Hopefully, we will close the states definitions till next week, so we could start to work on it | 09:22 |
| ifat_afek_ | lhartal: what do you mean by infinite list of states? | 09:22 |
| lhartal | different entities have different states. for example: | 09:23 |
| lhartal | nova: Paused, avtive, Suspended, Soft Deleted, Deleted and more.. | 09:23 |
| lhartal | nagios has: ok, critical, warning and unknown | 09:24 |
| ifat_afek_ | lhartal: I see. you mean that there may be many different values for the monitored state | 09:24 |
| ifat_afek_ | problem... | 09:24 |
| ifat_afek_ | lhartal: and the reason we want to normalize it is for the ui to have a predefined list of states? | 09:25 |
| lhartal | for ui and integrations | 09:25 |
| ifat_afek_ | lhartal: I see, thanks | 09:25 |
| ifat_afek_ | other updates from anyone? | 09:26 |
| idan_hefetz | yea | 09:26 |
| idan_hefetz | i added support in the graph driver and API to get vertices using a query of their properties | 09:27 |
| idan_hefetz | this is used by the UI in get alarms for example | 09:27 |
| ifat_afek_ | idan_hefetz: you mean query a list, and not a topology tree | 09:27 |
| ifat_afek_ | ? | 09:27 |
| idan_hefetz | that's right | 09:28 |
| ifat_afek_ | idan_hefetz: thanks | 09:28 |
| ifat_afek_ | any other updates? | 09:28 |
| ifat_afek_ | moving on... | 09:29 |
| ifat_afek_ | #topic Review action items | 09:29 |
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| ifat_afek_ | we did not have any action items in the last meeting | 09:29 |
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| ifat_afek_ | #topic Next Steps | 09:29 |
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| alexey_weyl | We plan to add a demo with alarms from nagios until the next meeting | 09:31 |
| ifat_afek_ | alexey_wely: cool | 09:31 |
| ifat_afek_ | #topic Open Discussion | 09:31 |
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| ifat_afek_ | anyone wants to discuss anything? | 09:32 |
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| ifat_afek_ | so I guess we are done for today | 09:33 |
| ifat_afek_ | goodbye everybody | 09:34 |
| adami_toga | bye | 09:34 |
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| lhartal | bye bye | 09:34 |
| amir_gur | × ×˜×§ | 09:34 |
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| alexey_weyl | bye bye :) | 09:34 |
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| ifat_afek_ | #endmeeting | 09:35 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 10 09:35:01 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-02-10-09.00.html | 09:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-02-10-09.00.txt | 09:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-02-10-09.00.log.html | 09:35 |
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| sagar_nikam | Hi All | 13:02 |
| alexpilotti | hey there | 13:03 |
| lpetrut | Hi | 13:03 |
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| sagar_nikam | Hi | 13:03 |
| alexpilotti | #startmeeting hyper-v | 13:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 10 13:03:41 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alexpilotti. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 13:03 |
| itoader | Hi | 13:03 |
| claudiub | o/ | 13:03 |
| abalutoiu | Hi | 13:03 |
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| alexpilotti | #topic cliff Windows bug | 13:04 |
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| alexpilotti | Just a quick one, there's a blocking cliff bug ATM, here's the fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278301/ | 13:04 |
| alexpilotti | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278301/ | 13:04 |
| alexpilotti | as a heads up, ensure you have cliff !=1.16.0 | 13:05 |
| alexpilotti | hopefully this will land very soon and we'll have a 1.17.0 | 13:05 |
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| alexpilotti | dims reviewed it already, so hopefully it will merge soon | 13:06 |
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| alexpilotti | ok next | 13:07 |
| alexpilotti | #topic FC updates | 13:07 |
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| alexpilotti | lpetrut found a minor bug, already fixed as WWPN/WWNNs need to be lowercase | 13:07 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:07 |
| alexpilotti | lpetrut pateches upstream are already updated? | 13:07 |
| sagar_nikam | patch submitted for that fix ? | 13:08 |
| lpetrut | actually, that was a false alarm. one volume was not exported properly, and I thought about trying to go back to using lowercase, that worked and I wrongfully assumed that this was the issue | 13:08 |
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| sagar_nikam | i know of these 4 patches for FC | 13:08 |
| sagar_nikam | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258617/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260980/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258615/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258614/ | 13:08 |
| alexpilotti | ok, so false alarm | 13:08 |
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| alexpilotti | sagar_nikam: yep, those are the FC patches | 13:09 |
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| lpetrut | @sagar: well, since the FC related patches did not get in Nova this release, hitting the FF, I'm pushing on os-brick right now, so it will be slightly different | 13:09 |
| sagar_nikam | os-brick patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272522/ | 13:09 |
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| sagar_nikam | lpetrut: let me know the patches we need to pick to test | 13:10 |
| lpetrut | so, this is the nova FC related patch that we'll care about: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273504/ | 13:11 |
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| lpetrut | while I'll most probably abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258617/ | 13:11 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:12 |
| lpetrut | I'll add the unit tests to the os-brick patch, and hopefully we can get it in this week | 13:12 |
| lpetrut | I have some iSCSI related updates on this, but we'll talk about it when we get to that topic | 13:12 |
| lpetrut | please let me know if you have any questions | 13:12 |
| sagar_nikam | so lpetrut: can you confirm the final set of patches we need to pick, both in nova and os-brick | 13:13 |
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| alexpilotti | lpetrut: sagar_nikam needs to backport to liberty, so they dont have os-brick | 13:13 |
| lpetrut | auch | 13:14 |
| sagar_nikam | alexpilotti: we will try to test with Mitaka for FC | 13:14 |
| alexpilotti | the nova patches should be enough as a starting point, no? | 13:14 |
| lpetrut | so, the way we're heading right now, you'd need this nova patch and it's dependencies: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258617/ | 13:15 |
| lpetrut | and the os-brick one you've mentioned earlier | 13:15 |
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| lpetrut | but that also depends on some new os-win changes | 13:15 |
| sagar_nikam | ok fine | 13:15 |
| sagar_nikam | we will pick up those patches | 13:15 |
| sagar_nikam | let us know the os-win changes as well and we will pick up | 13:16 |
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| alexpilotti | heh, they joys of cherry-picking :-) | 13:16 |
| lpetrut | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249291/ this one and it's dependencies | 13:16 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:17 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:17 |
| sagar_nikam | i am done with FC, we can move to next topic, unless we have any other updates on FC | 13:17 |
| alexpilotti | cool | 13:17 |
| lpetrut | umm: question | 13:18 |
| sagar_nikam | sure | 13:18 |
| lpetrut | did you guys have issues with volumes not exported properly using 3par FC? | 13:18 |
| sagar_nikam | yet to test with HyperV, was your question related to when we used with libvirt ? | 13:19 |
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| lpetrut | yep, when using libvirt | 13:19 |
| sagar_nikam | i think no | 13:19 |
| sagar_nikam | we have seen it working | 13:20 |
| lpetrut | ok, I'll have to stress it a bit to make sure that attaching FC volumes is stable | 13:20 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:20 |
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| lpetrut | ok, we can go on with the next topic I guess | 13:21 |
| alexpilotti | #topic RPC networking-hyperv patch | 13:21 |
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| sagar_nikam | alexpilotti: i have some questions on freeRDP, we can try to discuss today | 13:21 |
| alexpilotti | sagar_nikam: sure | 13:21 |
| alexpilotti | kvinod: claudiub had some comments on the patch | 13:22 |
| kvinod | yes saw that | 13:22 |
| kvinod | will work on it | 13:22 |
| alexpilotti | kvinod: those are all very small changes, do you have an ETA by any chance? | 13:23 |
| alexpilotti | kvinod: beside the unit tests, the patch has been tested and it's all good | 13:23 |
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| kvinod | By tomorrow noon, i mean after 18hrs from now | 13:24 |
| kvinod | fine | 13:24 |
| kvinod | :) | 13:24 |
| alexpilotti | ok thanks! | 13:25 |
| alexpilotti | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263865/ | 13:25 |
| sagar_nikam | kvinod: does that close all patches from our team ? | 13:25 |
| alexpilotti | claudiub: anything to add here? | 13:25 |
| sagar_nikam | or anything else pending ? | 13:25 |
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| alexpilotti | sagar_nikam: AFAIK there's nothing else | 13:25 |
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| kvinod | for neutron there was only this one | 13:26 |
| claudiub | nop, just re-reviewed it with a fresh pair of eyes. left some comments. | 13:26 |
| alexpilotti | ok tx | 13:26 |
| kvinod | there were 4 bugs filed by Thalabathy | 13:27 |
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| alexpilotti | kvinod: I saw them, although they seemed on quite mixed topics | 13:27 |
| kvinod | alexpilotti & claudiub have you seen that | 13:27 |
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| kvinod | ok if any additional info required do let us know | 13:28 |
| alexpilotti | yep, so OVS stuff has to go to the OVS project, not networking-hyperv | 13:28 |
| kvinod | those were related to OVS and Security group | 13:28 |
| alexpilotti | let me fetch the link | 13:28 |
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| alexpilotti | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-hyperv/+bug/1543924 | 13:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1543924 in networking-hyperv "[Hyperv-Ovs]:Disabling switch extensions for Openvswitch takes infinite time." [Undecided,New] | 13:29 |
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| * alexpilotti asks my OVS team about the last url for OVS issue tracking | 13:30 | |
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| sagar_nikam | got disconnected | 13:31 |
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| sagar_nikam | can we continue | 13:32 |
| alexpilotti | here it is | 13:32 |
| alexpilotti | #link https://github.com/openvswitch/ovs-issues/issues | 13:32 |
| alexpilotti | so all OVS upstream issues have to go there | 13:33 |
| alexpilotti | if the issues are related to Cloudbase releases, then the place is: | 13:33 |
| alexpilotti | #link https://ask.cloudbase.it | 13:33 |
| alexpilotti | I'm updating all bugs accordingly | 13:34 |
| alexpilotti | anything else to add? | 13:34 |
| kvinod | so you mean all windows ovs related bugs should go to this #link https://github.com/openvswitch/ovs-issues/issues | 13:34 |
| kvinod | so shall I ask thala to create ovs bug to this #link https://github.com/openvswitch/ovs-issues/issues | 13:35 |
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| alexpilotti | corerct, unless they are related to a Cloudbase downstream release, in which case they go to the ask site | 13:35 |
| kvinod | ok | 13:36 |
| alexpilotti | at a first glance, those bugs seem due to upstream stuff | 13:36 |
| kvinod | this is one bug which need attention #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-hyperv/+bug/1543915 | 13:36 |
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| openstack | Launchpad bug 1543915 in networking-hyperv "[Ovs-Vxlan]:Tenant VMs not getting IP while security group enabled on hyperv compute." [Undecided,New] | 13:36 |
| alexpilotti | that's an interesting thing as they have a mix of OVS and networking-hyperv | 13:37 |
| kvinod | it seems SG is not working as expected with OVS | 13:38 |
| kvinod | yes | 13:38 |
| alexpilotti | kvinod BTW conntrack implementation is under way, so SG will be entirely on OVS quite soon | 13:39 |
| kvinod | alexpilotti: could you please update each bug with your suggestion and observation and probable next step/action | 13:39 |
| kvinod | good | 13:39 |
| alexpilotti | kvinod: I'm alrady doing it | 13:39 |
| kvinod | any ETA | 13:39 |
| alexpilotti | for this one: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-hyperv/+bug/1543915 | 13:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1543915 in networking-hyperv "[Ovs-Vxlan]:Tenant VMs not getting IP while security group enabled on hyperv compute." [Undecided,New] | 13:39 |
| alexpilotti | abalutoiu: can you please set up the same environment and test it? | 13:40 |
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| abalutoiu | alexpilotti: sure | 13:40 |
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| alexpilotti | kvinod: I notified our OVS team to look at the first bug (the hanging issue) | 13:42 |
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| alexpilotti | I'm not sure I get the other 2 bugs | 13:43 |
| kvinod | ok, thanks | 13:43 |
| kvinod | please post your questions on bug page on what is not clear | 13:44 |
| kvinod | Also, as you said | 13:44 |
| kvinod | a"SG will be entirely on OVS". any idea when is this expected? | 13:45 |
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| alexpilotti | ok, last one #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-hyperv/+bug/1543918 | 13:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1543918 in networking-hyperv "[Ovs-Vxlan]:Tenant VMs not getting IP after following the documents steps defined." [Undecided,Invalid] | 13:47 |
| alexpilotti | it's a request for the liberty MSI to have an option to enable security groups | 13:47 |
| alexpilotti | kvinod: OVS 2.6 | 13:48 |
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| alexpilotti | so, all bugs are being taken care of | 13:48 |
| alexpilotti | only, we need to follow up on the correct tracking platform | 13:49 |
| alexpilotti | anything else? | 13:49 |
| kvinod | Bug : 1543918 was filed because VM's booted were not getting IP after following the steps @ #link http://cloudbase.it/open-vswitch-24-on-hyperv-part-1 | 13:50 |
| alexpilotti | kvinod: I asked the OVS team to follow up as well, I commented about where to follow up | 13:51 |
| alexpilotti | it's not networking-hyperv stuff | 13:52 |
| kvinod | alexpilotti :what is your take on this #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-hyperv/+bug/1543920 | 13:52 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1543920 in networking-hyperv "[Hyper Msi]:Enable security option must be introduced during msi installation." [Undecided,Invalid] | 13:52 |
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| alexpilotti | we can surely add an option | 13:53 |
| kvinod | ok | 13:53 |
| alexpilotti | to enable / disable security groups | 13:53 |
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| alexpilotti | ok next, I think sagar_nikam had some questions on FreeRDP | 13:53 |
| sagar_nikam | sure | 13:54 |
| alexpilotti | #topic open discussion | 13:54 |
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| sagar_nikam | what is the recommended way for installing FreeRDP, do we do it on all HyperV hosts or have it in a separate machine and provide that IP in nova.conf | 13:54 |
| sagar_nikam | of all HyperV hosts | 13:55 |
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| sagar_nikam | having FreeRDP run on one machine to serve RDP requests to lot of instances, may be 2000 instances | 13:55 |
| sagar_nikam | how does FreeRDP scale ? | 13:55 |
| alexpilotti | in a hyper-converged scenario, we recommend to have wsgate on each node | 13:55 |
| sagar_nikam | can you explain further please | 13:56 |
| sagar_nikam | wsgate ? | 13:56 |
| alexpilotti | sure, in the hyper-converged scenario each node has all compute, storage and networking roles | 13:57 |
| alexpilotti | so it makes sense to add wsgate as well | 13:57 |
| alexpilotti | all nodes are basically identical, with the exception of controller nodes that might be optionally separate | 13:57 |
| sagar_nikam | so on all hyperv hosts, you recommend to install FreeRDP, instead of having it running on a single node ? | 13:58 |
| alexpilotti | alternatively, the deployer might prefer to have a dedicated cluster with wsgate services | 13:58 |
| alexpilotti | acting for all nodes | 13:59 |
| sagar_nikam | FreeRDP MSI, does it install wsgate ? | 13:59 |
| alexpilotti | time is up, we can continue the discussion on the hyper-v channel! | 13:59 |
| sagar_nikam | sure | 13:59 |
| sagar_nikam | will join there | 14:00 |
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| alexpilotti | yes, wsgate is the service for FreeRDP-WebConnect | 14:00 |
| alexpilotti | thanks guys1 | 14:00 |
| alexpilotti | see you next week! | 14:00 |
| kvinod | bye | 14:00 |
| alexpilotti | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 10 14:00:30 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| abalutoiu | bye | 14:00 |
| itoader | bye | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-02-10-13.03.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-02-10-13.03.txt | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-02-10-13.03.log.html | 14:00 |
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| moshele | hi | 14:04 |
| davidsha | Hi | 14:05 |
| irenab | hi | 14:05 |
| ajo | hi :) | 14:05 |
| ihrachys_ | o/ | 14:05 |
| ajo | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 14:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 10 14:05:29 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ajo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 14:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos' | 14:05 |
| ajo | I was telling on the neutron channel, that I may need to cut the meeting short, because I have no backup today to pickup kids from kindergarten | 14:05 |
| ajo | so for just in case: | 14:06 |
| ajo | #addchair moshele | 14:06 |
| ajo | #addchair moshele | 14:06 |
| ajo | #addchair ihrachys_ | 14:06 |
| ajo | :) | 14:06 |
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| ajo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qos-mitaka | 14:06 |
| ajo | I'm following the etherpad as usual | 14:06 |
| ajo | for RPC callback upgrades, please review if you didn't already: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265347/ | 14:07 |
| ajo | I must update the follow up patch on this one | 14:07 |
| ajo | and actually finish it, but it's just finally glueing the pieces together | 14:07 |
| ihrachys_ | it should happen real quick | 14:08 |
| ajo | sorry to be so slow with this, we're alreay in m-3 | 14:08 |
| ajo | exactly | 14:08 |
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| ajo | so, I'm putting myself a deadline to have a perfectly working & CI valid patch for monday | 14:08 |
| ihrachys_ | noted | 14:08 |
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| ajo | #action ajo finishes the RPC callback upgrades integration (next monday) | 14:09 |
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| ajo | #topic RBAC | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RBAC (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 14:09 | |
| ajo | I don't see hdaniel here, | 14:09 |
| ihrachys_ | I guess we wait on hdaniel to update the pathc | 14:09 |
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| ajo | I wanted to ask him for an update, we finally saw the neutron client patches | 14:10 |
| slaweq_work | hello | 14:10 |
| ihrachys_ | also would be cool to see kevinbenton on it | 14:10 |
| ajo | ihrachys_++ good catch about that | 14:10 |
| ajo | yeah | 14:10 |
| ajo | I've seen kevin in some of the patches | 14:10 |
| ajo | one of them, I mean | 14:10 |
| ihrachys_ | yeah, but not the db one | 14:10 |
| ihrachys_ | not the qos one, I mean | 14:10 |
| ihrachys_ | some general common db mixin only | 14:10 |
| njohnston | sorry I'm late | 14:10 |
| ajo | hi njohnston , np :) | 14:10 |
| ajo | ok, I will ping hdaniel for updates | 14:11 |
| ajo | and I will ask him if he needs some kind of help | 14:11 |
| ihrachys_ | right, let's help each other | 14:11 |
| ajo | then we need the time for that, but, let's see where's needed | 14:12 |
| ajo | ok, about Linux bridge integration | 14:12 |
| ajo | slaweq_work, ? | 14:12 |
| ajo | #topic LinuxBridge integration | 14:12 |
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| ihrachys_ | slaweq_work: still seeing gate failures? | 14:12 |
| slaweq_work | ajo: I'm still fighting with fullstack tests | 14:12 |
| slaweq_work | ihrachys_: yes | 14:12 |
| slaweq_work | yesterday I fixed issue with L2pop | 14:12 |
| * ihrachys_ saw some discussions around it yesterday, hoped it's fixed now :( | 14:12 | |
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| ajo | yikes ':/ | 14:12 |
| slaweq_work | but main issue is now that on jenkins all 3 linuxbridge connectivity tests are failing | 14:13 |
| slaweq_work | and in logs I can see that there is problem with connection to rabbitmq | 14:13 |
| ajo | slaweq_work, : but related to your patch, or in general? | 14:13 |
| ihrachys_ | slaweq_work: any ideas how to move forward with jenkins-only failures? | 14:13 |
| slaweq_work | I have no idea how to debug it | 14:13 |
| slaweq_work | and what is wrong there | 14:13 |
| slaweq_work | on my dev host all 3 tests are passing | 14:13 |
| slaweq_work | and connection to rabbitmq is fine | 14:14 |
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| ajo | I would say, if we cannot get help for fullstack, may be we shall skip that, and do manual tests for now, then keep working on the fullstack test | 14:14 |
| ajo | it's not the first time things have been tested manually, | 14:14 |
| slaweq_work | I also have to check some functional tests which are failin and it is because of my changes in net_helpers.py | 14:14 |
| ihrachys_ | ajo: yes, we'll consider reverting the order. | 14:14 |
| ajo | as long as we end up having a fullstack test | 14:14 |
| ajo | to avoid regressions | 14:15 |
| slaweq_work | maybe You know someone who I could ask about help in debuggin tests on jenkins | 14:15 |
| ajo | jschwarz is our expert about fullstack, but not sure how available he is this month | 14:15 |
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| slaweq_work | I suspect that it can be problem with iptables for example | 14:15 |
| slaweq_work | ajo: ok, I will try to catch him on irc | 14:16 |
| ihrachys_ | slaweq_work: in theory, infra should have a way to leave a failing node for debug, but it would require some talks around it | 14:16 |
| ajo | and, may be amuller, but he was travelling , | 14:16 |
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| ajo | ihrachys_, : yeah, I've been looking forward to see something like that | 14:16 |
| ihrachys_ | slaweq_work: in gate, you can check iptables rules in worlddump files | 14:16 |
| ajo | like marking a run to stay up and attached to a floating IP for X minutes | 14:16 |
| slaweq_work | ok, I will look for iptables config there | 14:17 |
| slaweq_work | thx | 14:17 |
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| ihrachys_ | slaweq_work: http://logs.openstack.org/38/248938/13/check/gate-neutron-dsvm-fullstack/93bde4e/logs/iptables.txt.gz | 14:17 |
| ihrachys_ | I think that's the rules we have in gate | 14:17 |
| slaweq_work | ok, thx | 14:17 |
| slaweq_work | so I think that it can be reason of problem | 14:18 |
| ajo | ok | 14:18 |
| slaweq_work | but is it possible to rules "in flight" in tests? | 14:18 |
| ihrachys_ | you mean change? | 14:18 |
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| ajo | Isn't that stored in the debug logs ? | 14:18 |
| slaweq_work | yes, add some rules to allow connections to rabbit | 14:18 |
| ihrachys_ | not for global rules I think. | 14:18 |
| ajo | ahh | 14:19 |
| ihrachys_ | ajo: the problem may be with global iptables not managed by neutron | 14:19 |
| ajo | ok, global rules | 14:19 |
| ajo | understood | 14:19 |
| slaweq_work | ihrachys_: exactly | 14:19 |
| ihrachys_ | ok let's spin on the idea | 14:19 |
| ihrachys_ | ajo: next topic? | 14:19 |
| ajo | yup | 14:20 |
| ajo | #topic DSCP | 14:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "DSCP (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 14:20 | |
| slaweq_work | ok, I will catch You if I will have other questions | 14:20 |
| slaweq_work | thx | 14:20 |
| ajo | vhoward, njohnston ? :) | 14:20 |
| ajo | thanks slaweq_work++ | 14:20 |
| ihrachys_ | ajo: do you actively review the DSCP patch? | 14:20 |
| ajo | ihrachys_, not lately, I must jump again into it | 14:21 |
| njohnston | I think the DSCP patch itself is looking pretty good, but I know ihrachys_ was voicing some concern that the l2-agent-extensions-api prerequisite wouldn't be ready before M | 14:21 |
| ajo | I did a review of the agent API, and I was starting another one | 14:21 |
| ihrachys_ | njohnston: we will get the piece in M, I am on reviewing this part right now. | 14:21 |
| njohnston | ihrachys_: Excellent, that removes perhaps my biggest anxiety. | 14:21 |
| ajo | do you mean, | 14:21 |
| njohnston | davidsha: You have anything to add? | 14:21 |
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| ajo | we aim to merge a minimalistic API for now, | 14:22 |
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| ihrachys_ | there are some concerns around testing and versioned objects, but nothing critical. davidsha does good job. | 14:22 |
| ajo | and then a real first version for M? | 14:22 |
| ihrachys_ | ajo: no. the minimal API is the M deliverable. | 14:22 |
| davidsha | No I think it's been covered, I'm just keeping dscp up to date with l2 | 14:22 |
| ihrachys_ | nothing beyond that actively planned right now | 14:22 |
| davidsha | Thanks :) | 14:22 |
| ajo | sorry, I was mixing | 14:22 |
| ajo | M/N | 14:22 |
| ajo | I mean M for the minimal API | 14:23 |
| ajo | and then N for a more broad API | 14:23 |
| njohnston | You can see we have a gaggle of accompanying patches listed in the commit message for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251738/23 all of which are dependent on it so the docs and client etc. can all merge as soon as the main feature merges. | 14:23 |
| ihrachys_ | ajo: in theory, yes. we'll see whether we have resources in N. | 14:24 |
| * njohnston would like to pitch in to that in N | 14:24 | |
| ajo | ihrachys_, ack | 14:24 |
| ajo | njohnston++ | 14:24 |
| ajo | I think it's a good initiative to keep making the agents extensible | 14:24 |
| ajo | it will make many other related projects much cleaner integrated to the L2 agents | 14:25 |
| ajo | ok | 14:25 |
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| ajo | #topic Open discussion | 14:25 |
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| ajo | is there any high prio bug or thing that needs discussion ? | 14:26 |
| * ajo looks a the list of bugs | 14:26 | |
| ihrachys_ | I will only note that client freeze is approaching, we need to get client pieces in asap, and that means dscp and rbac | 14:26 |
| ajo | ihrachys_, Client freeze happens earlier than server? | 14:26 |
| ihrachys_ | yes, one week I think | 14:26 |
| ihrachys_ | as per amotoki | 14:26 |
| njohnston | The DSCP client change shouldn't merge before the server change, though, right? | 14:27 |
| ajo | was that always this way? | 14:27 |
| ihrachys_ | njohnston: right | 14:27 |
| njohnston | ok | 14:27 |
| ajo | I guess we could ask for an exception in that case | 14:27 |
| ihrachys_ | ajo: no idea, maybe new approach | 14:27 |
| ihrachys_ | ajo: yes, exceptions are always there. but better not. | 14:27 |
| ajo | just make sure the client side is ready , I will work on reviewing all the QoS things more proactively, too many distractions lately from the good stuff | 14:28 |
| ajo | It puzzles me a bit, since the workflow is the other way around server then client, ... why freezing client, then server ? :? | 14:28 |
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| njohnston | ihrachys_: Do you think you can lift your -2 from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251738/23 | 14:29 |
| ihrachys_ | ajo: to stabilize for release | 14:29 |
| ihrachys_ | ajo: the client is not just for neutron, it's also used by other projects | 14:29 |
| ihrachys_ | njohnston: done | 14:29 |
| njohnston | ihrachys_: Thanks! | 14:29 |
| ihrachys_ | davidsha: I just posted comments for l2 agent extensions patch, please have a look. | 14:29 |
| ihrachys_ | ajo: I guess we could close the meeting and do some reviews/coding :) | 14:30 |
| ajo | yeap | 14:30 |
| ajo | next week there's no official meeting | 14:30 |
| ajo | but given the incoming deadlines, if people wants to do it, and we have a free meeting room | 14:30 |
| ajo | I'm all for it | 14:30 |
| ajo | a short one is enough | 14:30 |
| davidsha | ihrachys_: I'll start on them now. | 14:31 |
| ajo | let's discuss that along the way, so... #endmeeting | 14:31 |
| ajo | #endmeeting | 14:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 10 14:31:18 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-02-10-14.05.html | 14:31 |
| njohnston | Thanks everybody. | 14:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-02-10-14.05.txt | 14:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-02-10-14.05.log.html | 14:31 |
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| ajo | Thanks a lot everybody for the hard work | 14:31 |
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| rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 10 15:00:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | o/ | 15:00 |
| tgraichen | hi | 15:00 |
| rbak | o/ | 15:00 |
| ho_away | hi | 15:00 |
| pradipm | hi | 15:00 |
| tgraichen | no video today? :) | 15:00 |
| witek | hi | 15:00 |
| bklei | o/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | no video today | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | well, no one has post'd any agenda items/topics | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | seeing as we had a mid-cycle last week that is understandable | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | i do have a few topics to cover | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | hopefully i remember them all | 15:01 |
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| rhochmuth | bklei: we had to back out some code you checked in back in October | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | did you see that? | 15:02 |
| bklei | hmm, i missed that -- which code? | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278046/ | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | Revert "Avoid multiple inner joins if dimensions specified" | 15:03 |
| bklei | you saw problems with that? | 15:03 |
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| rhochmuth | There were some bugs with pagination and specifying limits | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | we had some bugs and traced it to that commit | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | we didn't understand how to resolve either | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | so, reverted it | 15:04 |
| bklei | hmm, that's a bummer, that change made a significant perf improvement, would like more info on the bugs, i can take a look and fix | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | If you have ryan bradt's email you can get more details | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | unless he is lurking | 15:05 |
| bklei | ok, will follow up with him | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | i don't see him around yet | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | ok, my next topic is we would like to extend some of the filters that are allowed | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | basically when filtering on alarms or alarm definitions we would like to specifiy a '|' operator | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | on the alarm state and severity | 15:06 |
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| rhochmuth | this would allow you to get all the alarms in the ALARM|UNDETERMINED state | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | or with a severity of "LOW | MEDIUM" | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | it is a small change and it should work | 15:07 |
| bklei | so this is a filter applied when doing a GET? | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | Correct | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | GET alarms | 15:08 |
| bklei | ahh, sounds like a good change | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | GET alarm-definitions | 15:08 |
| bklei | cool | 15:08 |
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| rhochmuth | rbrandt has added a number of filters and order_by parameters recently | 15:09 |
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| rhochmuth | most are still in reveiw waiting to get merged | 15:09 |
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| rhochmuth | so this is the last one that we know about | 15:09 |
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| rhochmuth | other than the possiblity of adding a dimensions resource that we talked about | 15:09 |
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| witek | could you please add someone from FJ as reviewer for all ORM related stuff | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | the main reason is to allow user-interfaces, like Horizon, to be able to filter and paginate through list of alarms and definitions without client side processing | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | witek: are you referring to michal's review | 15:10 |
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| witek | no, extensions for filtering | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | sure | 15:11 |
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| witek | thanks | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | yes, this will add some new parameters to the repositories interfaces | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | so fj needs to be looking at this | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | it looks like there will be some merge conflicts as a result too | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | that will need to be rebased | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | what fun | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | so, i'm guessing that folks are ok with that change, but the reveiw will be up soon so folks can take a look and comment on it | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | so, another topic is tornado in the log api | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | i saw the response to my analysis yesterday | 15:14 |
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| rhochmuth | i'll dive into my code further | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | it could be that i've got a problem | 15:14 |
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| witek | ok, thanks for info | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | This is the review i was referring too, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277818/ | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | OK, next topic is the ORM work | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | i had some comments | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | i was wondering if we should explore moving to the sqlalchemy implementation | 15:17 |
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| rhochmuth | here is the review, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266922/ | 15:18 |
| witek | quite a few comments, i'm not up-to-date, must admit | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | so, i just wanted to discuss the possiblity of moving to the sqlalchemy implementation in the Python API | 15:19 |
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| rhochmuth | i haven't socialized that idea internally, but i will discuss sometime today or tomorrow what the implications/thoughts are | 15:20 |
| witek | sure, for us it would be great | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | ok, i thought so | 15:21 |
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| rhochmuth | so, that was all that i had | 15:22 |
| witek | could you approve the blueprint, please? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/alarmsonlogs | 15:22 |
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| rhochmuth | ok, i've approved | 15:23 |
| witek | thanks! | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | it seems like this won't make it into the mitaka release cycle | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | I did want to mention that voting is up for OpenStack | 15:25 |
| bklei | yeah -- like 9 talks that mention monasca! | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | Here is the search form | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/vote-for-speakers/SearchForm | 15:26 |
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| rhochmuth | that is a good number | 15:26 |
| witek | nice | 15:26 |
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| rhochmuth | including a couple for some folks that I didn't know were working in this area | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | so, please take a look at all the submissions | 15:27 |
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| rhochmuth | Fabiog has got the python-monascaclient going in the global requirements again at | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251674/ | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | it looks like everything is green, except for a non-voting gate | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | hopefully this gets through this time | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | Also, my changes in governance look like they are progressing at, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274884/ | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | so, any other topics, status updates, questions, ... | 15:31 |
| pradipm | hello | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | hi pradipm | 15:31 |
| pradipm | if there is no topic, may I allowed to ask 2/3 questions? | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | sure go ahead | 15:31 |
| pradipm | thanks! | 15:31 |
| rbak | I do have a grafana update also, if anyone is interested | 15:32 |
| pradipm | I am not able to list alarm-defn from cli | 15:32 |
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| rhochmuth | ok, that should work | 15:32 |
| pradipm | getting service-unavailable | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | what environment are you using | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | devstack, monasca-vagrant, ... | 15:33 |
| pradipm | however notification-list, alarm-defn creation etc. is working | 15:33 |
| pradipm | devstack | 15:33 |
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| rhochmuth | well, that doesn't make sense | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | it is possible there is a bug | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | i don't have an env up right now | 15:34 |
| pradipm | is there a way I can paste the cli output here? | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | sure, paste it | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | also, as we are getting off topic | 15:34 |
| pradipm | stack@ubuntu:~/devstack$ monasca --os-username admin --os-password secretadmin --os-project-name admin alarm-definition-list | 15:34 |
| pradipm | ERROR (exc:65) exception: { | 15:34 |
| pradipm | Â Â Â "title": "Service unavailable", | 15:34 |
| pradipm | Â Â Â "description": "" | 15:34 |
| pradipm | } | 15:34 |
| pradipm | HTTPException code=500 message={ | 15:34 |
| pradipm | Â Â Â "title": "Service unavailable", | 15:34 |
| pradipm | Â Â Â "description": "" | 15:34 |
| pradipm | } | 15:34 |
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| rhochmuth | maybe just contact me in IRC directly or in the openstack-monasca room after the meeting | 15:34 |
| pradipm | sure. thanks a ton. | 15:35 |
| pradipm | another question - may I ask pls? | 15:35 |
| rhochmuth | sure | 15:35 |
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| pradipm | is it possible to launch Graphanna from Horizon plugin of Monasca? | 15:35 |
| rhochmuth | yes | 15:35 |
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| pradipm | I can see the monitoring tab .. view all info | 15:35 |
| rhochmuth | there is a button in the upper left and grafana can be launched from that | 15:36 |
| pradipm | but when graffana is launched .. seeing an error : Request Method: GET Request URL: http://10.74.150.152:8000/grafana/index.html | 15:36 |
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| rhochmuth | so, let's take that off-line too | 15:36 |
| pradipm | I am in horizon plugin as per : https://github.com/openstack/monasca-ui/ | 15:37 |
| pradipm | Sure. | 15:37 |
| bklei | oh -- we hit that, ping me pradipm | 15:37 |
| bklei | basically need an apache alias | 15:37 |
| pradipm | last question. extremely sorry for so much asks. | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | ohh, i'm not sure the horizon plugin is integrated in the devstack environment | 15:37 |
| pradipm | sure bklei. | 15:37 |
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| pradipm | If I run monasca in scale-out mode ... what all components/services are shared? | 15:38 |
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| rhochmuth | what do you mean by shared? | 15:38 |
| jobrs | @rbak: highly interested :-) | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | "clustered?" | 15:38 |
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| pradipm | I mean, say the influxDB is common for all the deployment | 15:38 |
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| rhochmuth | zookeeper, kafka, influxdb, storm and mysql are all shared | 15:39 |
| rhochmuth | and clustered too | 15:39 |
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| pradipm | Ok. thanks a lot for all the answers. | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | ok, see you over in #openstack-monasca | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | rbak: update on grafana? | 15:40 |
| pradipm | Sure, thanks rhochmuth. | 15:40 |
| rbak | So the patches are ready and pull requests are up. | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | as in completely done | 15:41 |
| rbak | Yes | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | any feedback on your pull requests? | 15:41 |
| rbak | The monasca datasource is not going to get merged. | 15:41 |
| rbak | They're moving away from that model | 15:41 |
| rbak | Even the plugins repo will be deprecated | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | so, there is grafana-uplugins, | 15:42 |
| rbak | grafana-plugins is going to be deprecated | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | that is where the datasource is located | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | so, will you just have your own repo | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | and what about the Keystone integration? | 15:42 |
| tgraichen | but we can provide it as third party plugin like i think itwill be the case for any new one - right? | 15:42 |
| rbak | Correct. Plugins will maintained outside grafana, and they're creating a new website to make finding plugins easier. | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | so, do you want to create a monasca-grafana repo in the openstack organization | 15:43 |
| rbak | I'm also told that plugins will be more stable in the future because of this and not require constant updates. | 15:43 |
| rbak | rhochmuth: That would probably be a good thing at some point | 15:44 |
| rhochmuth | yeah, i think so | 15:44 |
| rbak | The keystone auth is trickier. | 15:44 |
| rbak | The link to the PR is here: The monasca datasource is not going to | 15:44 |
| rbak | Sorry, here: https://github.com/grafana/grafana/pull/3963 | 15:44 |
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| rbak | But there is some resistance to merging a "non standard auth system" | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | i see | 15:45 |
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| rbak | I've been asked to look into the auth proxy grafana already provides, and I've agreed, but I know it won't work as is and I'm fairly sure it would require huge changes to make it work with the keystone auth | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | well, sounds like he is open to it | 15:46 |
| rbak | Sure, I think it just needs some support | 15:46 |
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| rhochmuth | well, i think it is up to everyone here | 15:47 |
| rhochmuth | can we vote for pull requests | 15:47 |
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| rbak | I'm not sure | 15:47 |
| rbak | It may just need comments | 15:47 |
| rhochmuth | also, i thought you said this would be applicable to Ceilometer too | 15:47 |
| rbak | It will be | 15:47 |
| rbak | It could be used by any openstack service | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | i'll contact ceilometer as well | 15:48 |
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| rhochmuth | not sure how there existing plugin does auth | 15:49 |
| rhochmuth | do you know | 15:49 |
| rbak | They have two options currently | 15:49 |
| rbak | One is putting in a token | 15:49 |
| rbak | Like we had before | 15:49 |
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| rbak | The other is to put a username and password in the datasource and use that to get tokens. | 15:49 |
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| rhochmuth | so, i guess you'll update torkel at some point | 15:51 |
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| rhochmuth | in the mean time i think we should leave comments asking for the merge | 15:51 |
| rbak | Sounds good | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | i'll leave some comments later today | 15:51 |
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| rhochmuth | he specifically mentions +1 votes | 15:52 |
| rbak | Looking at other pull requests, it looks like people vote in the comments. | 15:53 |
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| rhochmuth | thanks rbak | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | so, we are getting to the end | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | any other topics? | 15:54 |
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| rhochmuth | going once | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | … | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | ok, thanks everyone | 15:56 |
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| rhochmuth | see you next week or in irc | 15:56 |
| witek | thank you Roland! | 15:56 |
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| rhochmuth | #endmeeting monasca | 15:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 10 15:56:48 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-02-10-15.00.html | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-02-10-15.00.txt | 15:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-02-10-15.00.log.html | 15:56 |
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| xgerman | o/ | 18:30 |
| xgerman | sc68cal? | 18:30 |
| SridarK | Hi All | 18:30 |
| sc68cal | yup here | 18:30 |
| mickeys | Hi | 18:30 |
| sc68cal | #startmeeting networking_fwaas | 18:31 |
| xgerman | guess time to meet | 18:31 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 10 18:31:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sc68cal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:31 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_fwaas)" | 18:31 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_fwaas' | 18:31 |
| sc68cal | so I'm still stuck in MTU hell and live upgrade hell | 18:32 |
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| sc68cal | and yeah my fwaas stuff has languished as a result | 18:32 |
| xgerman | internal stuff + LBaaS is eating me alive | 18:32 |
| sc68cal | so, sorry :( | 18:32 |
| xgerman | same here, I am embarrased | 18:32 |
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| xgerman | sc68cal can you fix the build problems for db models? Jenkins hates it | 18:33 |
| SridarK | no worries i think this is the reality - as we all have to juggle multiple roles | 18:33 |
| mickeys | I have not done any better. Planning to kick off renewed FWaaS effort later this afternoon, and will spend some time on the weekend | 18:33 |
| sc68cal | xgerman: i'd have to go look and see. It's that bad. | 18:33 |
| bharathm | o/ | 18:33 |
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| SridarK | xgerman: i am testing some stuff around plugin - db integration - i can take a look | 18:33 |
| ajmiller | o/ | 18:33 |
| xgerman | cool | 18:33 |
| barclaac | o/ | 18:34 |
| Aish | o/ | 18:34 |
| SridarK | so sc68cal can wrap up things on the mtu | 18:34 |
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| xgerman | yeah, I am glad we keep a low profile in Austin | 18:35 |
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| SridarK | xgerman: Aish: i am trying hard to get a handle on the db - plugin integration so i can come to a point where the plugin gets to the rpc | 18:36 |
| SridarK | will ping u guys then to see how we can integrate to the next mile | 18:36 |
| xgerman | sounds good | 18:36 |
| jwarendt | +1 | 18:36 |
| SridarK | hopefully by Fri | 18:36 |
| Aish | +1 | 18:36 |
| xgerman | cool | 18:36 |
| xgerman | with some luck we can make some progress on the versioned objects | 18:37 |
| SridarK | xgerman: yes | 18:37 |
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| xgerman | so we need to square the tempest tests | 18:38 |
| xgerman | there a re a couple of reviews which need love | 18:38 |
| xgerman | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277678/ | 18:39 |
| xgerman | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273406/ | 18:39 |
| xgerman | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273007/ | 18:39 |
| xgerman | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273006/ | 18:39 |
| SridarK | xgerman: yes agreed - i am making a note to get on this today | 18:39 |
| SridarK | thx for the links | 18:39 |
| sc68cal | I just bumped a couple with +a | 18:39 |
| xgerman | thanks, I already +2’d them so if any other core... | 18:39 |
| xgerman | awesome sc68cal! | 18:39 |
| madhu_ak | setting up devstack and should be able to test and comment EOD | 18:39 |
| sc68cal | 273006 and 273406 I +A | 18:40 |
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| SridarK | sc68cal: if u get busy i can look at the others | 18:40 |
| sc68cal | works for me | 18:40 |
| xgerman | +1 | 18:40 |
| SridarK | madhu_ak: for which one ? | 18:41 |
| madhu_ak | for the aboe tempest tests reviews | 18:41 |
| SridarK | ok great | 18:41 |
| madhu_ak | any idea which timezone, yamamoto is in | 18:43 |
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| xgerman | Japan | 18:43 |
| madhu_ak | thanks | 18:43 |
| SridarK | madhu_ak: are u in the US west coast ? | 18:44 |
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| madhu_ak | yep SridarK | 18:44 |
| SridarK | ok great thx | 18:44 |
| SridarK | On other things - i have sent a reminder to bhararth from brocade on the observer hierarchy - he has done some work - but waiting to hear on timelines | 18:46 |
| xgerman | ok, sounds good | 18:47 |
| sc68cal | can we get him to just post his work on gerrit | 18:47 |
| SridarK | sc68cal: yes i have asked for that | 18:47 |
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| sc68cal | I mean it's OK if it's not complete or doesn't work right. | 18:48 |
| sc68cal | I mean come on look at my stuff for fwaas v2. | 18:48 |
| SridarK | sc68cal: totally agree | 18:48 |
| xgerman | yeah, there is a WIP flag | 18:48 |
| SridarK | yes exactly | 18:48 |
| jwarendt | Ditto on the CLI - [WIP] | 18:48 |
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| SridarK | Any other things to discuss ? | 18:52 |
| xgerman | one more thing: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275888/12/doc/source/stadium/sub_projects.rst stadium keeps evolving | 18:52 |
| xgerman | but not worth discussing here | 18:52 |
| SridarK | ok but good to keep an eye on | 18:53 |
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| xgerman | otherwise I think we are good | 18:53 |
| SridarK | I am hoping by next week we will have more progress | 18:55 |
| xgerman | +1 | 18:55 |
| mickeys | +1 | 18:56 |
| SridarK | if nothing else, maybe we can wrap and get some time back ? | 18:57 |
| xgerman | sc68cal? | 18:57 |
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| sc68cal | sounds good to me | 18:57 |
| jwarendt | +1 | 18:58 |
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| sc68cal | till next week everyone, good luck with all the distractions | 18:58 |
| SridarK | :-) | 18:58 |
| xgerman | thanks | 18:58 |
| sc68cal | then we can get back to the actual work - fwaas! | 18:58 |
| xgerman | that would be nice :-) | 18:58 |
| sc68cal | the important work, that is | 18:58 |
| sc68cal | #endmeeting | 18:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 10 18:58:47 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2016/networking_fwaas.2016-02-10-18.31.html | 18:58 |
| SridarK | thanks all | 18:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2016/networking_fwaas.2016-02-10-18.31.txt | 18:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2016/networking_fwaas.2016-02-10-18.31.log.html | 18:58 |
| SridarK | bye | 18:58 |
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| david-lyle | #startmeeting Horizon | 20:00 |
| robcresswell | o/ | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 10 20:00:42 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is david-lyle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:00 |
| betherly | o/ | 20:00 |
| rhagarty_ | o/ | 20:00 |
| mrunge | o/ | 20:00 |
| TravT | o/ | 20:01 |
| tsufiev | o/ | 20:01 |
| r1chardj0n3s | o/ | 20:01 |
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| ducttape_ | o/ | 20:01 |
| matt-borland | o/ | 20:01 |
| bpokorny | o/ | 20:01 |
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| david-lyle | For common items today. Just the impending M-3 milestone on March 3 | 20:03 |
| david-lyle | Want to check the status on a couple of items | 20:03 |
| david-lyle | where are we at on django 1.9 support? | 20:03 |
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| robcresswell | Another minor patch here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277359/ | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | Still ticking along. Last couple errors are giving me a headache. | 20:04 |
| robcresswell | If anyone wants to chip in, there's about 9 errors left when you run tox -e py27dj19 | 20:04 |
| david-lyle | this is an item that should be resolved soon, or we won't get a d-o-a release or a requirements bump | 20:05 |
| robcresswell | Gotcha. I'll make it no.1 on my list. | 20:05 |
| david-lyle | robcresswell: I think it's just the most time sensitive and missing django 1.9 in the release would be not great | 20:06 |
| robcresswell | Yep, makes sense. | 20:06 |
| david-lyle | let's not be not great :) | 20:06 |
| robcresswell | haha, soaring optimism there :p | 20:06 |
| david-lyle | aim high, I always say | 20:07 |
| tsufiev | robcresswell, feel free to ping me for reviews on that bp | 20:07 |
| david-lyle | ok. looking at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-horizon-priorities | 20:08 |
| david-lyle | the plugin doc first pass landed | 20:08 |
| david-lyle | so we're doing better on docs | 20:08 |
| david-lyle | seem like a couple more could land | 20:08 |
| david-lyle | Angular Content? | 20:09 |
| matt-borland | Images Panel has 4 patches left | 20:09 |
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| matt-borland | 1 is looking to merge today | 20:09 |
| david-lyle | that sounds promising | 20:09 |
| TravT | matt-borland: just finished running through the multiple actions patch | 20:09 |
| matt-borland | Launch instance has 3 patches I know of | 20:09 |
| TravT | about to push review | 20:09 |
| matt-borland | thanks TravT | 20:09 |
| TravT | it is working nicely | 20:09 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | Swift UI is progressing :/ I really hope to un-WIP the last patch today | 20:10 |
| david-lyle | ok, so we have progress | 20:10 |
| matt-borland | robcresswell, I do want to know about Add Network subflow for Launch Instance | 20:10 |
| robcresswell | Still waiting on those APIs to merge | 20:10 |
| hurgleburgler | Dynamic Themes is ready for eyes too | 20:10 |
| robcresswell | They were approved yday, but failed jenkins 2/3 times now | 20:10 |
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| david-lyle | hurgleburgler: hold up, top down | 20:11 |
| hurgleburgler | :-X | 20:11 |
| * ducttape_ simma down now hurgleburgler | 20:11 | |
| betherly | hurgleburgler: ill do some reviewing of those patches tomorrow | 20:11 |
| robcresswell | matt-borland: This is the patch in question https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273082/ | 20:11 |
| robcresswell | Still in gate :) | 20:11 |
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| matt-borland | robcresswell, did you want me to take the reins or are you doing more work on that patch? | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | I've got work based off the extensions API | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | But if I push that in the morning you're welcome ot take over now. | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | Then I can finish off 1.9 | 20:12 |
| matt-borland | I can do that. I'll follow up offline. | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | Cool thanks | 20:12 |
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| robcresswell | brb | 20:13 |
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| david-lyle | ok, angular is moving | 20:13 |
| david-lyle | forward | 20:13 |
| david-lyle | dependencies are stuck beyond the few that were manually updated | 20:13 |
| TravT | :( | 20:14 |
| david-lyle | that seems like a problem that will carry over again | 20:14 |
| david-lyle | performance items will also carry over, but that seems like it will be a top issue every release | 20:15 |
| mrunge | we didn't had to talk about performance in the past | 20:15 |
| tsufiev | osprofiler integration into Horizon is WIP | 20:15 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: not sure that's true | 20:15 |
| tsufiev | I´m going to show how it works at midcycle | 20:15 |
| david-lyle | performance has always been a concern | 20:15 |
| tsufiev | (since it requires an elaborately setup devstack) | 20:16 |
| david-lyle | but the cause may have changed | 20:16 |
| tsufiev | at least until all necessary osprofiler patches are merged into other OS projects | 20:16 |
| david-lyle | Testing/integration testing items will be ongoing | 20:18 |
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| david-lyle | anything other than dynamic theming that I'm missing? | 20:19 |
| hurgleburgler | We have checkboxes, selects and radios in flight | 20:19 |
| david-lyle | theme the things | 20:19 |
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| david-lyle | and a domain token support patch in flight too | 20:20 |
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| tqtran | opsies... sorry im late | 20:20 |
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| betherly | hurgleburgler: what happened with the icon things? did you get round to that and need reviews or is it still a to do? | 20:20 |
| david-lyle | and those are the items tqtran will have to finish by this afternoon | 20:20 |
| robcresswell | thanks tqtran! | 20:21 |
| hurgleburgler | betherly its still a todo, one i'm gonna address soon | 20:21 |
| * tqtran leaving this meeting. | 20:21 | |
| david-lyle | haha | 20:21 |
| david-lyle | ok | 20:21 |
| betherly | hurgleburgler: so sorry i still hadnt got round to it. i will catch up with you more on it tomororw | 20:22 |
| david-lyle | seems a reasonable number of those priorities will land | 20:23 |
| hurgleburgler | no worries betherly | 20:23 |
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| david-lyle | found it | 20:24 |
| david-lyle | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/HorizonMitakaSprint | 20:24 |
| david-lyle | I'm closing registration in 2 days for this. | 20:24 |
| david-lyle | All that really means, is I won't have internet access and guest credentials ready for you if you crash that party | 20:25 |
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| * david-lyle is not entirely sure how long that process is | 20:25 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | hopefully not longer than 2 weeks :-) | 20:25 |
| david-lyle | :D | 20:26 |
| TravT | probably depends on the bribe | 20:26 |
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| david-lyle | as a reminder there is a topic list https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-mitaka-midcycle | 20:26 |
| robcresswell | More like an end-of-cycle | 20:26 |
| david-lyle | but I fully expect a large portion to be reviewing/updating patches and working small groups | 20:26 |
| robcresswell | +1, definitely looking forward to some rapid patch iteration | 20:27 |
| robcresswell | Pass tqtran my nitpicks in person this time :) | 20:27 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I'm looking forward to having my own personal hurgleburgler on hand to fix all my css | 20:27 |
| robcresswell | haha | 20:27 |
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| david-lyle | that's all I had for general items | 20:28 |
| david-lyle | there is one items on today's agenda | 20:28 |
| tqtran | haha | 20:28 |
| hurgleburgler | I'm going to charge for lines of code | 20:28 |
| hurgleburgler | I like trippels and quads | 20:28 |
| david-lyle | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Horizon#Agenda_for_2016-02-10_2000_UTC | 20:28 |
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| dan_nguyen | thx! | 20:29 |
| david-lyle | #topic Graph looks smaller after bootstrap change, should we revert to the original size? | 20:29 |
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| david-lyle | see https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1537909 | 20:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1537909 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Graph looks smaller after boostrap refactor" [Undecided,New] | 20:29 |
| hurgleburgler | Its smaller because it fits inside of a multiple of 12 rows | 20:29 |
| tsufiev | hurgleburgler, I think they mean quota charts ^^ | 20:29 |
| r1chardj0n3s | graph == the pie charts? | 20:29 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I see no reason to make those bigger... | 20:30 |
| david-lyle | yes charts | 20:30 |
| hurgleburgler | they change size based on the responsive size of your page too | 20:30 |
| hurgleburgler | which size where they complaining about? | 20:30 |
| betherly | is that section also responsive? | 20:30 |
| betherly | surely it would also depend on size of device they are using it on | 20:30 |
| hurgleburgler | Yup | 20:31 |
| hurgleburgler | the large screen size puts 6 on each row, I believe | 20:31 |
| hurgleburgler | we have a page with 7 | 20:31 |
| hurgleburgler | I can play around with that again though, if people don't like the smaller ones | 20:31 |
| betherly | hmm that would make sense with that layout but with the complaint is it worth considering doubling to 3 on each row on large screen> | 20:31 |
| betherly | ? | 20:31 |
| betherly | or 4 which would make dividing down easier | 20:32 |
| hurgleburgler | the thing is … it pushes all the content down | 20:32 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ^^ | 20:32 |
| hurgleburgler | then, you just have a huge page of little pie charts | 20:32 |
| betherly | true that | 20:32 |
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| betherly | scrollable view? | 20:32 |
| david-lyle | since the charts are fairly devoid of information, I'm not sure increasing the size is overly useful | 20:32 |
| r1chardj0n3s | agreed ^^ | 20:32 |
| hurgleburgler | +1 | 20:33 |
| matt-borland | +1 | 20:33 |
| david-lyle | the launch instance case might be different | 20:33 |
| doug-fish | I don't mind the small pie charts. +1 | 20:33 |
| david-lyle | I'd have to double check those | 20:33 |
| betherly | cool im obvs happy if everyone else is. just thinking of solutions :) | 20:33 |
| hurgleburgler | The overview page needs a facelift in general though :) | 20:33 |
| david-lyle | one of these days, one of these days | 20:33 |
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| david-lyle | I think the concern may have been the size change was unintentional | 20:34 |
| david-lyle | but I'm guessing | 20:34 |
| hurgleburgler | It was intentional, but only to make it responsive | 20:34 |
| hurgleburgler | if you try it on the 'material' theme, the graphs are bigger | 20:35 |
| piet | Are we talking about the Overview panel? ;^) | 20:35 |
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| david-lyle | if only we had dynamic theming | 20:35 |
| hurgleburgler | :-O | 20:35 |
| david-lyle | ;) | 20:35 |
| hurgleburgler | \o/ | 20:35 |
| david-lyle | ok | 20:35 |
| robcresswell | that patch is wizardry | 20:35 |
| doug-fish | piet: only a little - but I have to say I'm not a fan either. Do you have input? | 20:36 |
| robcresswell | I need a fresh brain for it. | 20:36 |
| tsufiev | robcresswell, just too advanced technology :) | 20:36 |
| matt-borland | robcresswell, you came to the wrong place | 20:36 |
| david-lyle | #topic Open Discussion | 20:36 |
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| robcresswell | heh | 20:36 |
| piet | doug-fish We're going through a series of interviews and there are some things worth discussing | 20:37 |
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| hurgleburgler | A simple refresh making use of bootstrap panels would be pretty easy | 20:37 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | re the midcycle - it turns out a bunch of us will be arriving in Portland on Monday afternoon. If you are then let's get together in downtown for dinner before heading over to Hillsboro. | 20:38 |
| doug-fish | piet: I've had multiple customers confused by putting the real time "now" charts in combination with historic, report info on the same page. | 20:38 |
| david-lyle | doug-fish: to our benefit we don't have any historical data, so the chance of confusion is low :) | 20:38 |
| doug-fish | nova usage based stuff | 20:39 |
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| robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s: I'm there about 7pm on the Monday | 20:39 |
| doug-fish | that's what I'm calling historic | 20:39 |
| robcresswell | flights from London are seriously crappy too :/ | 20:39 |
| david-lyle | oh that should probably go too | 20:39 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I don't know Portland at all, but it's been suggested to me to head down there from my flight which arrives around midday | 20:39 |
| piet | doug-fish I think we may need to rethink how the Overview panel should be leveraged by users | 20:40 |
| TravT | r1chardj0n3s: sounds good to me. | 20:40 |
| r1chardj0n3s | suggestions for where I should go are welcome :-) | 20:40 |
| hurgleburgler | I'll be there | 20:40 |
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| david-lyle | many brew pubs, and good restaurants in downtown portland | 20:40 |
| doug-fish | piet: david-lyle yeah, I'd love to see the overview cleaned up to remove that kind of mixed info | 20:40 |
| betherly | robcresswell: i heard there may be direct flights to the states from london and bristol soon | 20:40 |
| david-lyle | doug-fish: I'd like to see it report some real info | 20:40 |
| matt-borland | I get the impression that many places replace (as default)/modify the overview quite a bit | 20:41 |
| doug-fish | "real"? | 20:41 |
| david-lyle | useful | 20:41 |
| doug-fish | got it. | 20:41 |
| doug-fish | agreed. | 20:41 |
| hurgleburgler | OH! I had a question about our use of STATIC_URL | 20:41 |
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| hurgleburgler | I was wondering if there was a reason we used {{ STATIC_URL }} everywhere instead of the static templatetag that django suggests | 20:42 |
| hurgleburgler | https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.9/howto/static-files/ | 20:42 |
| hurgleburgler | #link https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.9/howto/static-files/ | 20:42 |
| david-lyle | hurgleburgler: figured out we don't read django docs and haven't for a long time | 20:42 |
| hurgleburgler | LOL | 20:42 |
| tsufiev | haha | 20:42 |
| betherly | hahaha | 20:42 |
| tsufiev | I thought there was some serious reason | 20:42 |
| robcresswell | Yeah, doing 1.9 has made me realise how much people read the django docs :p | 20:42 |
| matt-borland | hurgleburgler, can it be made to account for WEBROOT? | 20:43 |
| ducttape_ | the overview panel is slow, and the data is has is marginally useful imo | 20:43 |
| david-lyle | apparently since 1.5 the templatetag has been suggested | 20:43 |
| hurgleburgler | It uses static_url | 20:43 |
| hurgleburgler | and static_url takes webroot into account | 20:43 |
| piet | Did we come to an agreement that the Overview should include "useful" information? | 20:43 |
| david-lyle | ducttape_: ++ | 20:43 |
| robcresswell | Well the cached loader was like... 1.4? 1.2? some time ago. | 20:43 |
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| hurgleburgler | they suggest templatetag because, if you have to host from places like AWS, then you can customize it a bit more | 20:43 |
| doug-fish | I'd like to think every page should have "useful" information. | 20:43 |
| betherly | doug-fish: +1 | 20:43 |
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| david-lyle | what kind of crazy project does a major release every 6 months, it's impossible to keep up | 20:44 |
| robcresswell | haha | 20:44 |
| TravT | useful is in the eye of the beholder | 20:44 |
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| robcresswell | I'm not sure that's how it goes... | 20:44 |
| betherly | TravT: very true - hard to get everything useful to everyone when working with a community this large | 20:45 |
| david-lyle | doug-fish: don't get crazy | 20:45 |
| david-lyle | 70% boilerplate | 20:45 |
| david-lyle | 30% info | 20:45 |
| david-lyle | of which 15% is useful | 20:45 |
| david-lyle | that's in the charter | 20:45 |
| doug-fish | I've had a well received overview type page in a previous cloud project I worked on that introduced the broad pieces that were managed and where to get started with them in the UI | 20:45 |
| doug-fish | It's useful for new people | 20:45 |
| TravT | yeah, user preference based widgets would be better... but i think we've said that before. | 20:45 |
| doug-fish | and fast for those who are experienced. | 20:46 |
| robcresswell | tutorial type thing? | 20:46 |
| doug-fish | robcresswell: tutorial would be an overstatement | 20:46 |
| doug-fish | maybe two sentences and a link for images, instances, networks | 20:46 |
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| doug-fish | and a cool picture | 20:47 |
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| robcresswell | Like a quick actions setup? | 20:47 |
| doug-fish | kind of | 20:47 |
| TravT | how about a section where you could just do contextual search across your cloud? | 20:47 |
| doug-fish | :-) | 20:47 |
| david-lyle | ABC | 20:47 |
| doug-fish | I think I can see where you are going with this TravT | 20:47 |
| TravT | ;-) | 20:47 |
| robcresswell | haha | 20:47 |
| piet | There is also the question around how ofter users actually log into Horizon. I would be a bit hesitant to use it as a dashboard if users simply log into Horizon to complete some kind of action and then log out. | 20:48 |
| doug-fish | TravT: that's not a bad option | 20:48 |
| david-lyle | and in the case Searchlight isn't configured? | 20:48 |
| TravT | too bad for you | 20:49 |
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| david-lyle | a Searchlight ad? | 20:49 |
| r1chardj0n3s | has Searchlight nailed the permissions issue yet? | 20:49 |
| TravT | we've gotten a lot further with it | 20:49 |
| r1chardj0n3s | cool | 20:49 |
| robcresswell | Hmm. Could we not have both doug and travs solutions on one screen? a blank search bar with a prompt, and a few links to most used actions... I'm assuming things like new instances | 20:49 |
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| tyr_ | if the overview page isn't useful...I think that is a failing of the framework to make it easy for installations to customize. So the question is what can horizon provide to enable installations to build the view they want? | 20:50 |
| TravT | i've been working on the searchlight panel, but been thinking i could turn it into a directive | 20:50 |
| matt-borland | robcresswell, way ahead of you! :) | 20:50 |
| TravT | so it could be used anywhere. | 20:50 |
| robcresswell | matt-borland: I know there are actions for operating on the searchlight results planned | 20:50 |
| TravT | and the directive will use our other nifty directive that checks with a service is available | 20:50 |
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| doug-fish | matt-borland: you have this implemented already? | 20:50 |
| robcresswell | But I meant generic things like creating a new instance. You could likely catch 3/4 of the users on the initial panel, and then anything more involved would just use the regular side nav. | 20:51 |
| TravT | https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/openstack_dashboard/static/app/core/cloud-services/hz-if-services.directive.js | 20:51 |
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| matt-borland | doug-fish, just working on a related item today. | 20:51 |
| TravT | hz-if-services='"search'" | 20:51 |
| doug-fish | cool! | 20:51 |
| matt-borland | basically, ability to package/manage and use actions in a variety of ways (not hard-coded like now). More to come :) | 20:52 |
| tyr_ | That is a great segue robcresswell, if actions related to given resource type are isolated into injectable units...then things like TravT's search panel...or a custom overview page can make them available | 20:52 |
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| robcresswell | Thats the idea behind searchlights end-goal isnt it? find anything, and return contextual actions for it. | 20:53 |
| matt-borland | exactly tyr_ | 20:53 |
| robcresswell | We're still a little way off it though. | 20:53 |
| robcresswell | "little" | 20:53 |
| matt-borland | "it depends!" | 20:53 |
| robcresswell | Btw, last summit we discussed removing the admin overview page | 20:54 |
| robcresswell | Do we still want to go ahead with that? | 20:54 |
| mrunge | oh, and what about removing resource usage panel | 20:55 |
| mrunge | that was requested by ceilo folks | 20:56 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: I have no issue with that, I can put up a patch after this | 20:56 |
| robcresswell | 2 more cycles and we'll just ship a login page | 20:56 |
| hurgleburgler | LOL | 20:56 |
| doug-fish | Are we thinking of removing = keeping the code but making the panels disabled? | 20:56 |
| matt-borland | retinal scan | 20:56 |
| david-lyle | just want to get a +1 from the ceilo team | 20:56 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272644/ feel free to re-use, scrap | 20:57 |
| ducttape_ | admin overview is more worser than the project overview page, +1 to removing it | 20:57 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: didn't know you had one | 20:57 |
| robcresswell | doug-fish: I was just thinking of removing tbh. Admin is supposed to be a nightmare, so it may be better to just default to proj overview. | 20:57 |
| ducttape_ | also, on most admin pages I think we talked about displaying nothing, then requiring a search query to show any data | 20:57 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, re ceilo, suggestion is to use gnocchi, it's a complete re-implementation then | 20:57 |
| david-lyle | I think removing the content is fine and having a gnocchi plugin makes more sense | 20:58 |
| david-lyle | ducttape_, yes we did, yes we did | 20:58 |
| mrunge | I was a bit scared of any user we might have for that panel | 20:58 |
| doug-fish | I don't know of any specific users of those panels ... I just have a vague concern about how to handle any surprises ... | 20:59 |
| doug-fish | if the panels exist but are disabled, I can tell them how to enable | 20:59 |
| betherly | before the end of the meeting i just wanted to add a massive thank you sooo much to everyone in channel who helped me get the ironic plugin set up. robcresswell in particular - youve been a total legend - thank youuu!!! | 20:59 |
| mrunge | exactly doug-fish | 20:59 |
| david-lyle | alright disable this release and remove next? | 20:59 |
| doug-fish | yeah | 20:59 |
| mrunge | +1 david-lyle | 20:59 |
| matt-borland | sounds good | 20:59 |
| david-lyle | ok | 20:59 |
| TravT | doug-fish: david-lyle: that makes sense | 20:59 |
| robcresswell | ha, you're welcome :) | 21:00 |
| david-lyle | and landing page for admin users if we disable admin overview is? | 21:00 |
| ducttape_ | instances, with nothing in it | 21:00 |
| david-lyle | time's up | 21:00 |
| TravT | spinner | 21:00 |
| robcresswell | LOL | 21:00 |
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| david-lyle | TravT: they get that anyway | 21:00 |
| david-lyle | :P | 21:00 |
| TravT | lol | 21:00 |
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| ducttape_ | alt would be hypervisors page | 21:00 |
| david-lyle | Thanks everyone. | 21:00 |
| TravT | thanks! | 21:00 |
| david-lyle | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:00 | |
| mrunge | thanks | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 10 21:00:56 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-02-10-20.00.html | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-02-10-20.00.txt | 21:01 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-02-10-20.00.log.html | 21:01 |
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| alaski | bauzas: ping | 21:01 |
| alaski | #startmeeting nova_cells | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 10 21:01:21 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alaski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells' | 21:01 |
| * bauzas waves to alaski | 21:01 | |
| doffm | Hi. | 21:01 |
| alaski | o/ | 21:01 |
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| mriedem | o/ | 21:01 |
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| ccarmack | o/ | 21:01 |
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| bauzas | and... \o (because I'm a gentleman) | 21:02 |
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| alaski | great, let's get going | 21:02 |
| ctrath | o/ | 21:02 |
| alaski | #topic Cells testing/bugs | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cells testing/bugs (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 21:02 | |
| ccarmack | I updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225199/ to change server_basic_ops to test ssh | 21:02 |
| ccarmack | I could use some reviews on it | 21:02 |
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| alaski | great | 21:03 |
| alaski | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225199/ | 21:03 |
| ccarmack | One thing I need to do is change project-config to set run_validation = true for cells | 21:03 |
| ccarmack | but I already have a 3 dependency patch …so would like to change project-config after this is approved | 21:04 |
| alaski | sounds reasonable | 21:04 |
| ccarmack | cool | 21:04 |
| alaski | there was a tempest test added recently which failed the cells job | 21:05 |
| alaski | so it was added to the exclusion list in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277536/ | 21:05 |
| mriedem | alaski: that test broke all shared storage jobs too | 21:05 |
| mriedem | so it was reverted | 21:05 |
| alaski | oh | 21:05 |
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| alaski | when/if it's added back it would be good to have the security group addition behind a flag | 21:06 |
| alaski | but otherwise I'm not aware of any cells failures | 21:06 |
| alaski | #topic Open reviews | 21:07 |
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| alaski | as always, just calling out https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-priorities-tracking | 21:07 |
| alaski | I have some reviews to add there, but there's a lot of stuff up now | 21:07 |
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| alaski | please take a look | 21:07 |
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| alaski | #topic Open Discussion | 21:07 |
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| doffm | I created a script to look at possible foreign key issues when doing the database split. | 21:08 |
| doffm | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/CellsV2-database-split | 21:08 |
| doffm | I also proposed a doc change to add all missing databases to the split info. | 21:08 |
| doffm | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277543/ | 21:09 |
| doffm | If people could review that to discuss any database split issues i'd be grateful. | 21:09 |
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| bauzas | lovely | 21:09 |
| alaski | yeah, really nice | 21:09 |
| bauzas | that said, I just wonder how we could draw the line in the sand | 21:10 |
| alaski | do we want to discuss the big one now, aggregates? | 21:10 |
| doffm | We could. I don't have any really good ideas though. | 21:10 |
| bauzas | the 'how' being: how can we be sure that the boundaries are good ? | 21:10 |
| alaski | bauzas: we may need to draw a temporary line that we know we might revise later | 21:10 |
| doffm | We wont know for sure until we try. So make a plan for the best split we can. | 21:11 |
| bauzas | alaski: yeah, I just think that migrating a table to the API DB can be okay, reverting it to the cell DB could be difficult | 21:11 |
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| bauzas | so, I would be a bit conservative first | 21:11 |
| bauzas | and just make sure we migrate the tables we really need to call | 21:12 |
| alaski | that's fair | 21:12 |
| doffm | Yep. | 21:12 |
| alaski | the list of api tables is really just a list of tables we want to look at migrating | 21:12 |
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| bauzas | then cool :) | 21:12 |
| alaski | in the process we may find that something shouldn't actually be moved | 21:13 |
| alaski | but it's good to have the list of things to look at | 21:13 |
| bauzas | yeah for sure | 21:13 |
| alaski | getting back to aggregates, I started wondering if we actually do want them to span cells | 21:13 |
| bauzas | I think yeah | 21:14 |
| alaski | I think so too, but why? | 21:14 |
| bauzas | I was seeing the aggregates differently from cells | 21:14 |
| bauzas | orthogonally even | 21:14 |
| doffm | I always presumed that we did. Some things might be rack / cell specific. Others global. | 21:14 |
| bauzas | so, aggregates are there for 2 reasons, right? | 21:15 |
| bauzas | # for a placement decision | 21:15 |
| bauzas | #2 for a global item | 21:15 |
| bauzas | #1 and/or #2 | 21:15 |
| alaski | what do you mean by a global item? | 21:15 |
| bauzas | like a ratio | 21:15 |
| bauzas | I mean a metadata var for all the computes in there | 21:16 |
| doffm | uses_ssh has_gpu. funky_network_gear. slow_disks. | 21:16 |
| bauzas | hah | 21:16 |
| bauzas | so, that's why I see cells being different | 21:16 |
| alaski | I agree with all of that, but will also point out that at rackspace those tags applied at the cell level | 21:17 |
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| bauzas | so, MHO is that cells are failure domains | 21:17 |
| alaski | I'm also just playing devils advocate here | 21:17 |
| bauzas | while aggregates are the above | 21:17 |
| bauzas | an aggregate (and an AZ) are not a failure domain | 21:18 |
| alaski | if a cell is a failure domain should there be resources that span it | 21:18 |
| bauzas | I can give an example | 21:18 |
| alaski | because you're not isolated against failure like that | 21:18 |
| doffm | Sure we could add aggregates to each cell. funky_network_gear_1, funky_network_gear_2. Thats what people do in cellsv1 right? | 21:18 |
| doffm | Adds a load on the operator though. | 21:18 |
| doffm | If there are globalish concepts that span cells. | 21:19 |
| bauzas | yeah, you could want to place like this | 21:19 |
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| bauzas | (cell_A OR cell_B) AND not cellC | 21:19 |
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| doffm | cell affinity. | 21:19 |
| bauzas | aggregates could be one way | 21:20 |
| alaski | doffm: aggregates weren't used, but yes that's essentially what happened in v1 | 21:20 |
| bauzas | also | 21:20 |
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| alaski | doffm: it was basically cells 3,4,5 can handle flavors a,b and cells 6,7 take flavors c,d | 21:20 |
| bauzas | consider for example that you have 2 cells sharing each 2 types of hardware | 21:21 |
| bauzas | what if as a user I care about a specific type of hardware but I don't care about where it will be placed | 21:21 |
| alaski | let me ask something real quick, but I want to be clear | 21:22 |
| alaski | does it matter that an aggregate spans cells, or that two cells each have an aggregate with the same properties? | 21:23 |
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| alaski | for affinity it does seem to matter | 21:23 |
| doffm | Yes, if we are using aggregates for affinity. Also for operator load. (Having to create in N cells). | 21:24 |
| doffm | Also possibly for performance in a global scheduler. (Multiple db look ups for aggregates?) | 21:24 |
| alaski | but since it's really the scheduler that cares about aggregates, and it will have a global view, I wonder if the aggregates could be merged by it instead of having them global in nova | 21:24 |
| bauzas | well, I just don't want to lock up a specific implementation detail that could lead to a huge design difference :) | 21:24 |
| bauzas | the thing is, you can create as many aggregates per host as you wish | 21:25 |
| alaski | here's my struggle | 21:25 |
| alaski | I think Jays work depends on aggregates being in a cell | 21:26 |
| bauzas | so, I know that lots of operators have dedicated aggregates, each per use they want | 21:26 |
| alaski | but I agree that they should be global | 21:26 |
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| doffm | alaski: We could think of other ways around aggregates in regards to the resource pools framework. | 21:26 |
| alaski | and long term I think we want to move a lot of this into a unified scheduler and not store it in nova dbs | 21:26 |
| doffm | We will have to have a mapping between resource pools and cells anyway. | 21:27 |
| alaski | doffm: yeah, might be the way we end up needing to go | 21:27 |
| doffm | So we will have a table with resource pools ids in them. | 21:27 |
| doffm | We could move the resource-pool <-> aggregate mapping to the api db. | 21:27 |
| doffm | And link it to the resource pool cell-id mapping instead of directly to the resource pool table. | 21:27 |
| bauzas | that could work | 21:28 |
| bauzas | just another level of indirection | 21:28 |
| alaski | I think I need to draw this all out at some point | 21:29 |
| alaski | but that does seem to work | 21:29 |
| doffm | I could write something up for us all to discuss. | 21:29 |
| alaski | that would be great | 21:30 |
| doffm | OK. | 21:30 |
| mriedem | don't draw it out in ascii art | 21:30 |
| doffm | I actually was going to. | 21:30 |
| mriedem | doffm: that ML thread was before you were working on openstack... | 21:30 |
| mriedem | but i digress | 21:30 |
| alaski | oh man, not this discussion | 21:31 |
| bauzas | heh | 21:31 |
| alaski | it was my ascii art that spawned that discussion | 21:31 |
| alaski | doffm: ascii art is wonderful | 21:31 |
| alaski | lascii art, even better | 21:31 |
| doffm | mriedem: Will inform me of what i'm supposed to do offline. :) | 21:31 |
| mriedem | whatever jogo used for the arch diagram in the nova devref | 21:32 |
| mriedem | use that | 21:32 |
| mriedem | mtreinish: will tell you to use, oh what's it called again | 21:32 |
| alaski | heh, latex :) | 21:32 |
| mriedem | yeah | 21:32 |
| doffm | There are two other forign key issues I found. Fixed-ips -> instance ids. SecurityGroups -> instance ids. I guess we can discuss those down the line. | 21:32 |
| doffm | I only had a chance to look at security groups a little bit. | 21:33 |
| alaski | for those I was thinking we could change the foreign key to be to the instance_mapping | 21:33 |
| doffm | Makes sense. | 21:33 |
| alaski | there could still be some gotchas in there, but it's something to try | 21:34 |
| doffm | Although the security-group <-> instance mapping is many-to-many. Its most often used in the cells for accessing security groups I think. | 21:34 |
| doffm | So there is some argument for keeping it in the cell db. | 21:35 |
| alaski | the only other thing on the agenda is a reminder about summit proposals and newton specs, we may want to start an etherpad to track those | 21:35 |
| alaski | doffm: ahh, okay | 21:35 |
| alaski | although I think security_groups should really be in the api db | 21:36 |
| doffm | alaski: For sure, the mapping could stay though. | 21:36 |
| alaski | ahh, I see | 21:36 |
| doffm | For newton specs... I guess we should start writing some. Should we table a discussion of what we want to get in for newton and go from there? | 21:37 |
| alaski | yep, that's a good plan | 21:38 |
| ccarmack | alaski: are you still looking for volunteers? | 21:38 |
| alaski | definitely | 21:38 |
| ccarmack | anything I can work on? | 21:38 |
| ccarmack | I saw something about grenade updates | 21:38 |
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| alaski | that's one thing | 21:39 |
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| alaski | some slightly more invasive testing to check things that functional tests may not catch | 21:39 |
| alaski | if that's possible | 21:39 |
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| doffm | alaski: When would you like to have the newton plans discussion, next weeks meeting? Hangouts? | 21:39 |
| doffm | alaski: ccarmack: Will we want to do a multi-cell grenade eventually? I mean adding a new cell and checking everything works. | 21:40 |
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| doffm | As well as a multi-cell test in general. :/ | 21:40 |
| alaski | doffm: lets start with doing it in the meetings, and maybe have a hangout after FF when we see what progress was made in M | 21:40 |
| ccarmack | maybe I should write a grenade spec | 21:41 |
| doffm | Ok. | 21:41 |
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| alaski | yes, multi-cell testing will be necessary | 21:41 |
| alaski | I'm trying to find some code that has no testing that should | 21:42 |
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| bauzas | so, newton high-level objective would be to allow a 2nd cell ? :) | 21:42 |
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| alaski | this nova-manage command is untested http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/cmd/manage.py#n1269 | 21:43 |
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| alaski | a great grenade test would be to boot some instances and then run that command after the upgrade | 21:43 |
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| alaski | and ensure the migration succeeded | 21:43 |
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| alaski | it's going to depend on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270565/ as well | 21:43 |
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| alaski | bauzas: heh | 21:44 |
| doffm | Did anyone put in summit proposals? | 21:44 |
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| alaski | I proposed one talk on cellsv2 | 21:45 |
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| alaski | doffm: I'm not sure if you're familiar with the format, but there will be proposals for the design summit much closer to the event | 21:45 |
| alaski | those will be the technical discussions that are more helpful | 21:46 |
| doffm | I'm not familiar at all. Thats good to know. | 21:46 |
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| alaski | the proposals that just happened are basically presentation format, the design summit is much like the midcycle | 21:47 |
| alaski | except with many more people | 21:47 |
| mriedem | and time boxed | 21:47 |
| bauzas | alaski: I guess you're planning the cellsv2 talk for giving an high-level view ? | 21:47 |
| mriedem | it's basically worse in every way :) | 21:47 |
| bauzas | to ops | 21:47 |
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| alaski | mriedem: +1 | 21:47 |
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| alaski | bauzas: high level view, and progress report | 21:48 |
| bauzas | ack | 21:48 |
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| alaski | anything else for today? | 21:48 |
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| alaski | that was a good discussion, and I look forward to your writeup doffm | 21:49 |
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| doffm | Thanks. | 21:49 |
| alaski | ccarmack: if any other cells work comes up this cycle I'll ping you, but next cycle should be chock full of it | 21:50 |
| alaski | thanks all! | 21:50 |
| alaski | #endmeeting | 21:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 10 21:50:31 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2016/nova_cells.2016-02-10-21.01.html | 21:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2016/nova_cells.2016-02-10-21.01.txt | 21:50 |
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