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| PaulMurray | #startmeeting Nova Live Migration | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 8 14:00:21 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is PaulMurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:00 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_live_migration' | 14:00 |
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| PaulMurray | hi, who is here for lm? | 14:00 |
| efried | . | 14:00 |
| andrearosa | I am | 14:00 |
| mdbooth | o/ | 14:00 |
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| jlanoux | hi | 14:00 |
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| PaulMurray | lets wait a minute for any others | 14:01 |
| PaulMurray | ok - lets get going | 14:02 |
| PaulMurray | people are lurking if not putting their hands up | 14:02 |
| davidgiluk | o/ | 14:02 |
| * davidgiluk wouldn't want to lurk | 14:02 | |
| PaulMurray | agenda here as usual: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaLiveMigration | 14:02 |
| * kashyap waves | 14:02 | |
| PaulMurray | :) | 14:02 |
| PaulMurray | #topic Documentation | 14:03 |
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| PaulMurray | We have a lot of features in | 14:03 |
| PaulMurray | and they need to be documented | 14:03 |
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| ndipanov | o/ | 14:03 |
| eliqiao | o/ | 14:03 |
| PaulMurray | So look for command descriptions in api and in | 14:04 |
| PaulMurray | concepts guide and see if there is anything affected by recent features | 14:04 |
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| PaulMurray | please | 14:04 |
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| andrearosa | PaulMurray: I have a nova bug assigned to me because of the DOCIMPACT tag in the commit message | 14:04 |
| andrearosa | without any details | 14:04 |
| andrearosa | so I put a comment on the bug | 14:04 |
| andrearosa | with more details | 14:04 |
| andrearosa | is that enough? | 14:04 |
| andrearosa | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1550525 | 14:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1550525 in OpenStack Compute (nova) " Abort an ongoing live migration" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Andrea Rosa (andrea-rosa-m) | 14:05 |
| PaulMurray | I've not seen that before | 14:05 |
| eliqiao | andrearosa: that's because that you have 'DOCImpact' in you commit message. | 14:05 |
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| PaulMurray | eliqiao, are they usually assigned to the commiter ? | 14:05 |
| andrearosa | PaulMurray: not automatically | 14:06 |
| andrearosa | I assigned it to myself after makus pinged me on IRC | 14:06 |
| eliqiao | PaulMurray: not really. | 14:06 |
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| eliqiao | yeah, someone pinged me to. | 14:07 |
| eliqiao | s/to/too | 14:07 |
| PaulMurray | I'm not sure what the process is or if its changed | 14:07 |
| andrearosa | after this meeting I am going to ask in the #openstack-infra what I have to do | 14:08 |
| PaulMurray | But it would be good to look for what needs to be done. And do remember the concepts guide, which is in nova | 14:08 |
| PaulMurray | #action ALL check document changes needed related to new features | 14:08 |
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| PaulMurray | #topic Top check queue failures | 14:09 |
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| eliqiao | PaulMurray: I did some investigation about that bug | 14:09 |
| PaulMurray | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088437.html | 14:09 |
| eliqiao | PaulMurray: I think you are talking about https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1539271 | 14:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1539271 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Libvirt live block migration migration stalls" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Eli Qiao (taget-9) | 14:09 |
| PaulMurray | matt pointed out those two bugs | 14:09 |
| PaulMurray | go ahead eliqiao | 14:09 |
| eliqiao | PaulMurray: I don't find the root cause | 14:10 |
| PaulMurray | #link Libvirt live block migration migration stalls: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1539271 | 14:10 |
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| eliqiao | seems not from nova | 14:10 |
| eliqiao | libvirt and nova are all do right thing from the log which I can see. | 14:10 |
| eliqiao | libvrit invoke migrate command to qemu, and wait for job status, but no memory transfered at all. | 14:11 |
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| PaulMurray | this comment from matts message: "The problem, unfortunately, could be | 14:11 |
| PaulMurray | something latent in libvirt 1.2.2 or qemu 2.0.0" | 14:11 |
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| PaulMurray | has know of anything like that in libvirt or qemu ? | 14:12 |
| eliqiao | PaulMurray: yeah, can we call for some low level expert ? | 14:12 |
| PaulMurray | mdbooth, do you know anyone ? | 14:12 |
| eliqiao | danbp or someone from qemu. | 14:12 |
| mdbooth | Not personally, unfortunately | 14:13 |
| mdbooth | kashyap: ring any bells? | 14:13 |
| kashyap | mdbooth: Looking | 14:13 |
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| kashyap | Sorry, was lost in chat in another channel | 14:13 |
| PaulMurray | I can ask our (HPE) virt people to have a look - but not always as quick as one of us | 14:13 |
| kashyap | Wow, block migration completely stalls? | 14:13 |
| eliqiao | kashyap: yeah. | 14:14 |
| kashyap | As of a week ago, I tested with libvirt-1.3.1 | 14:14 |
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| kashyap | And, qemu-system-x86-2.5.0-6.fc23 -- it worked fine here | 14:14 |
| davidgiluk | hmm it's probably first important to figure out which type of block migration it's using - is it qemu block migration or is it virtio setting up nbd ? | 14:14 |
| mdbooth | Presumably this is a non-deterministic failure, right? | 14:14 |
| kashyap | davidgiluk: A quick look at the log should tell us | 14:15 |
| PaulMurray | mdbooth, right | 14:15 |
| mdbooth | i.e. success once isn't conclusive | 14:15 |
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| kashyap | The bug doesn't have any libvirtd logs? | 14:15 |
| eliqiao | kashyap: it has | 14:15 |
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| eliqiao | kashyap: http://logs.openstack.org/84/286084/3/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-full/a5d70a2/logs/subnode-2/libvirt/libvirtd.txt.gz | 14:16 |
| kashyap | eliqiao: Thanks | 14:17 |
| * kashyap will be on a plane for 12 hours tomorrow, and can only spend about 2 hours today on this | 14:17 | |
| PaulMurray | maybe if you can have a look and put anything you find on the bug - including any missing details | 14:17 |
| PaulMurray | There is another one: | 14:17 |
| davidgiluk | kashyap: Take a libvirtd bug with you for entertainment! | 14:17 |
| mdbooth | kashyap: Can you ping me with anything you find out? | 14:18 |
| kashyap | davidgiluk: Looking sir | 14:18 |
| pkoniszewski | o/ | 14:18 |
| PaulMurray | #link Volume based live migration aborted unexpectedly: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1524898 | 14:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1524898 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Volume based live migration aborted unexpectedly" [High,Confirmed] | 14:18 |
| kashyap | mdbooth: Sure. I'll note anything that I can find | 14:18 |
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| PaulMurray | has anyone had a chance to look at this one ? | 14:18 |
| PaulMurray | The occurances of these has increased in last 48 hours | 14:19 |
| kashyap | eliqiao: "subnode-2" means, it's the _source_ machine, right? (Despite the name 'subnode-2') | 14:19 |
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| kashyap | davidgiluk: Okay, it's using old style ("inc":true" approach) | 14:21 |
| PaulMurray | danpb thinks its this one is probably qemu - but don't know why it would start failing more now | 14:21 |
| eliqiao | kashyap: yeah, it should be. I checked the log, monitor thread is running on that. | 14:21 |
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| davidgiluk | kashyap: Do we have qemu logs? Also wasn't there an NFS+migration one from a few weeks back - did that get fixed? | 14:21 |
| mdbooth | PaulMurray: Matt says in that bug: | 14:21 |
| kashyap | (s/true/false) | 14:21 |
| mdbooth | This fails primarily on OVH nodes which are the slowest ones we have in the community infra system, so that indicates there is a speed component to this. | 14:22 |
| kashyap | davidgiluk: There will be - DevStack records it, let me find | 14:22 |
| mdbooth | I wonder if it's a race in an old qemu which is triggered by a slow system | 14:22 |
| mdbooth | And our system got slow again lately? | 14:22 |
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| kashyap | davidgiluk: The same dreadful "signal 15" (SIGTERM) - http://logs.openstack.org/84/286084/3/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-full/a5d70a2/logs/subnode-2/libvirt/qemu/instance-00000022.txt.gz | 14:23 |
| PaulMurray | tdurakov, does the live migration job use the same setup ? | 14:23 |
| eliqiao | kashyap: the qemu logs seems good. | 14:24 |
| davidgiluk | kashyap: So I think that means libvirt decided to kill it - nothing that qemu is complaining about there | 14:24 |
| kashyap | davidgiluk: Also, they (the test) seem to have supplied TUNNELED flag. | 14:24 |
| davidgiluk | kashyap: Yeh so isn't it the constraint that if you have tunneled on then you have to use qemu block migration? | 14:24 |
| eliqiao | davidgiluk: tempest case will kill it if LM case no response after 250s?(maybe) | 14:25 |
| kashyap | We should really be testing with latest upstream stable of libvirt/QEMU. Markus (Z) was following it up on the upstream list - not sure about its status | 14:25 |
| andrearosa | we even have a kill of the job if the ligration is not making progress for more tha 150 seconds | 14:25 |
| kashyap | davidgiluk: Upstream libvirt will fall back to the legacy approach evey when the tunnelled flag is supplied | 14:26 |
| andrearosa | that is repoted in the compute log | 14:26 |
| andrearosa | ligration = live migration | 14:26 |
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| davidgiluk | andrearosa: What's the definition of progress? If it's shoveling block data and not moving much RAM data what happens? | 14:27 |
| andrearosa | davidgiluk: I think so, but I have to check the code. I saw that in my tests few times but I never dig into it | 14:27 |
| mdbooth | I'm a bit concerned that we may well be wasting time tracking down issues which are down to bugs which are already fixed in stable libvirt/qemu | 14:29 |
| mdbooth | I'm not sure this is the best use of peoples' time | 14:29 |
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| mdbooth | Any chance we can upgrade? | 14:29 |
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| kashyap | mdbooth: Fully agree with you | 14:30 |
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| kashyap | Markus (on #openstack-nova) just provided some status on it (newer Virt compoenents in Gate) | 14:30 |
| PaulMurray | mdbooth, agree - we were looking at getting up to date libvirt/qemu in some CI jobs | 14:30 |
| kashyap | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/libvirt-latest-test-job | 14:30 |
| davidgiluk | yes it would be better if you could taste our newer bugs | 14:30 |
| PaulMurray | anyone know where we are with that | 14:30 |
| mdbooth | If we were seeing these issues with the latest stable libvirt/qemu it would be quite clear that there's something we need to look at | 14:30 |
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| kashyap | PaulMurray: mdbooth: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289255/ | 14:31 |
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| kashyap | That's the WIP test job | 14:31 |
| markus_z | hey hey | 14:31 |
| mdbooth | kashyap: That's related to features, though. I'm more interested in stability. | 14:31 |
| kashyap | mdbooth: Some of the "bugs" we investigate upstream are already fixed in the latest stable versions of libvirt/QEMU | 14:32 |
| markus_z | It's also interesting for stability as we know it upfront when we do a min_libvirt_version bump | 14:32 |
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| kashyap | It's just due to the UCA having old versions that are Just Buggy Enough | 14:32 |
| kashyap | ("UCA" == Ubuntu Cloud Archive) | 14:33 |
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| markus_z | That's the version we use to poke through the happy path. We haven't fully figured out how to use the very latest. | 14:33 |
| davidgiluk | andrearosa: If you hit it again I'd be interested in what the idea of 'progress' is and what behaviour you're seeing; I can imagine that perhaps it's just shifting block data and not making much progress on the RAM, but if it's an incremental I wonder why it's taking so long on the block | 14:34 |
| andrearosa | davidgiluk: ok I let you know if I have a reproducible | 14:35 |
| PaulMurray | I'm not sure we can do anything more discussing this now | 14:35 |
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| PaulMurray | It would be good if we can try to figure out the problem and see if it matches a known bug in libvirt/qemu | 14:36 |
| kashyap | Yep | 14:36 |
| PaulMurray | moving on | 14:36 |
| PaulMurray | #link CI Coverage | 14:37 |
| PaulMurray | is tdurakov here? | 14:37 |
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| PaulMurray | there is not much on this pad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-live-migration-CI-ideas | 14:37 |
| davidgiluk | Is there anything that describes the current CI ? | 14:38 |
| PaulMurray | Good question, what are you looking for? | 14:38 |
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| PaulMurray | there are some links here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-live-migration | 14:39 |
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| kashyap | PaulMurray: I think what davidgiluk is asking is: What _kind_ of tests current live migration CI does | 14:40 |
| davidgiluk | well it's just if there's a thing saying to improve the CI I was just wondering what's already there | 14:40 |
| PaulMurray | there is a job in the experimental queue | 14:41 |
| PaulMurray | It has several types of storage | 14:41 |
| * PaulMurray scrambles around for a link | 14:42 | |
| jlanoux | It's what is in Tempest currently: LM of a server (ephemeral), LM of a server booted from a volume, LM of a server in paused state | 14:42 |
| jlanoux | There are several additional tests under review | 14:43 |
| davidgiluk | what workload do you run on the server while it's migrated? | 14:43 |
| jlanoux | none | 14:43 |
| davidgiluk | do you check the status of the server afterwards - e.g. check it's not rebooted, check it can still do IO to it's disk, network | 14:43 |
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| jlanoux | no - Matt Riedmann submitted a change to do a ssh check before and after LM | 14:44 |
| jlanoux | but ssh check is not 100% reliable currently | 14:44 |
| jlanoux | so little chance to get that voting | 14:44 |
| davidgiluk | yeh, checking the state of the VM after migration is pretty important | 14:45 |
| PaulMurray | Maybe we can get someone to put the current state of CI - what it does now on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-live-migration-CI-ideas | 14:45 |
| PaulMurray | jlanoux, could you organise that with tdurakov please ? | 14:46 |
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| jlanoux | PaulMurray: yep, no problem | 14:46 |
| PaulMurray | #action jlanoux tdurakov to add current state of live migration to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-live-migration-CI-ideas | 14:46 |
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| PaulMurray | and add ideas | 14:46 |
| davidgiluk | we've had qemu bugs where you'd find the guest rebooted instead of retaining the state; and you don't notice that if you just check for migration completing | 14:47 |
| PaulMurray | davidgiluk, saw the addition to the page - I guess that's you | 14:48 |
| davidgiluk | yep | 14:48 |
| PaulMurray | good - feel free to add the check as well - I think there are some patches in tempest for this job now | 14:48 |
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| PaulMurray | so all look for things to review - do point any reviews on the priorities page as you go if they are not there | 14:49 |
| PaulMurray | #link Bugs | 14:49 |
| PaulMurray | Any other bugs (10 mins left) | 14:49 |
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| * PaulMurray is sure there are other bugs - really checking if anyone wants to bring any up | 14:50 | |
| PaulMurray | #link Open Discussion | 14:50 |
| PaulMurray | anything else ? | 14:50 |
| mdbooth | I posted something to the mailing list yesterday, prompted by a tdurakov patch | 14:51 |
| PaulMurray | mdbooth, do you have a link | 14:51 |
| mdbooth | I would be interested if anybody has thought through the implications of this for things I may not have thought of | 14:52 |
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| * mdbooth hunts | 14:52 | |
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| mdbooth | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088578.html | 14:52 |
| PaulMurray | mdbooth, is it this: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088578.html | 14:52 |
| markus_z | just as a side note, potential rc blocker bugs get tagged with "mitaka-rc-potential" | 14:52 |
| mdbooth | PaulMurray: yup | 14:53 |
| PaulMurray | you got there first | 14:53 |
| mdbooth | It occurs to me that cleanup in the event of failure might be more complicated | 14:53 |
| mdbooth | However, I'd be interested to know if people think that solves more than it causes | 14:54 |
| PaulMurray | mdbooth, I'll take a look | 14:54 |
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| PaulMurray | mdbooth, could also start a similar thread asking if operators see problems - but put in the context of running systems ? | 14:55 |
| PaulMurray | mdbooth, on operators list | 14:55 |
| mdbooth | I don't know how I'd frame it other than: do you find migration to be a bit fragile? ;) | 14:55 |
| mdbooth | I don't think the response would be useful :) | 14:55 |
| PaulMurray | mdbooth, I think we know the answer to that | 14:56 |
| PaulMurray | markus_z, what is the process about mitaka-rc-potential bugs? | 14:56 |
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| markus_z | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088205.html | 14:56 |
| markus_z | PaulMurray: ^ | 14:57 |
| PaulMurray | #info potential rc blocker bugs get tagged with "mitaka-rc-potential" - see: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088205.html | 14:57 |
| PaulMurray | thanks | 14:57 |
| PaulMurray | I think we're done for today - so better end before that Stable lot come and throw us out again | 14:57 |
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| PaulMurray | thanks for coming - please see if you can help with those CI bugs | 14:58 |
| sigmavirus24 | PaulMurray: yeahh best you be finishing :P | 14:58 |
| PaulMurray | ...ooo I'm scared... :) | 14:58 |
| PaulMurray | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 8 14:58:46 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-03-08-14.00.html | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-03-08-14.00.txt | 14:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-03-08-14.00.log.html | 14:58 |
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| mriedem | #startmeeting stable | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 8 15:01:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: stable)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'stable' | 15:01 |
| ihrachys | o/ | 15:01 |
| ttx | o/ | 15:01 |
| mriedem | wow humans! | 15:01 |
| mriedem | tonyb around? | 15:01 |
| mriedem | i think we can get started, it's a pretty light agenda today | 15:02 |
| mriedem | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StableTeam#Agenda | 15:02 |
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| mriedem | #topic status | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "status (Meeting topic: stable)" | 15:02 | |
| mriedem | #link known issues https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker | 15:02 |
| mriedem | things are mostly quiet right now | 15:02 |
| mriedem | we do need some backports to kilo for openstack/requirements to move again https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246114/ | 15:03 |
| mriedem | #help get openstack/requirements on kilo working https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246114/ | 15:03 |
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| mriedem | i haven't dug into periodic stable fails yet today, but quick look it looks like trove on liberty has issues | 15:04 |
| mriedem | i'll dig into that after the meeting | 15:04 |
| ihrachys | mriedem: I did for neutron | 15:04 |
| ihrachys | the fix is https://review.openstack.org/289918 | 15:04 |
| mriedem | Could not open requirements file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/jenkins/workspace/periodic-neutron-python27-liberty/upper-constraints.txt' ? | 15:04 |
| ihrachys | yes | 15:04 |
| ihrachys | periodic jobs were not preparing file for us | 15:04 |
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| mriedem | ok, did something recently change to regress that? | 15:05 |
| ihrachys | yes, the commit message has a link | 15:05 |
| ihrachys | we made tox targets using the file | 15:05 |
| ihrachys | before that, we had -constraints targets for that | 15:06 |
| mriedem | ah ok | 15:06 |
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| ihrachys | and now we enforce the file for all targets + switched gate to using the 'usual' tox targets | 15:06 |
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| mriedem | ok, cool, thanks for being quick on that | 15:07 |
| mriedem | i looked at one of the trove failures, it's the same thing that's been busted for awhiel now | 15:07 |
| mriedem | *awhile | 15:07 |
| mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1538506 | 15:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1538506 in Trove "proboscis tests randomly fail in stable/liberty with "TypeError: create() got an unexpected keyword argument 'slave_of'"" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Craig Vyvial (cp16net) | 15:07 |
| mriedem | i need to ask some people on the trove team about that again, | 15:08 |
| mriedem | else they should just disable the tests if they aren't going to fix them | 15:08 |
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| mriedem | #topic action items from previous meeting | 15:08 |
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| mriedem | 1. mriedem to ping lifeless about fixtures bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-fixtures/+bug/1542984 | 15:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1542984 in Python Fixtures "fixtures 1.2.0 isn't compatible with testtools 2.0.0" [Undecided,Fix released] - Assigned to Robert Collins (lifeless) | 15:08 |
| mriedem | that's fixed now | 15:08 |
| ihrachys | yay | 15:09 |
| mriedem | 1.2.1 is out and kilo was working again | 15:09 |
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| mriedem | 2. tonyb to push up his initial script for scraping backport potential bugs | 15:09 |
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| mriedem | i haven't seen those yet | 15:09 |
| mriedem | 3. mriedem to talk to dhellmann about cross-project discussion for stable/liberty timeline | 15:09 |
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| mriedem | i had a good conversation with fungi in the stable channel yesterday | 15:09 |
| mriedem | #link discussion with fungi about stable eol http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-stable/%23openstack-stable.2016-03-07.log.html#t2016-03-07T18:54:05 | 15:09 |
| mriedem | i've requested a fishbowl session at the summit to go over that between the stable/qa/infra/vmt/release teams | 15:10 |
| fungi | expect me there | 15:10 |
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| ttx | me too | 15:10 |
| mriedem | cool | 15:10 |
| mriedem | any questions on that? | 15:11 |
| fungi | ttx and i can pull a good cop/bad cop routine | 15:11 |
| mriedem | i'v watched 'the wire' twice | 15:11 |
| mriedem | so i know how to handle that | 15:11 |
| ihrachys | mriedem: on the script, I had one for neutron | 15:11 |
| ihrachys | mriedem: lemme scrap my gerrit, sec | 15:11 |
| ttx | we can also do bad cop / bad cop if needed | 15:11 |
| mriedem | ihrachys: ok | 15:11 |
| ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245219/ | 15:11 |
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| ttx | mriedem: I propose we share a common half-day meetup on the Friday, in case stable peeps don't know where to go | 15:12 |
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| mriedem | just for stable stuff? | 15:13 |
| ttx | release management + stable | 15:13 |
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| ttx | we'll use hte room for releasemanagement anyway | 15:13 |
| mriedem | i'd be fine coming to the release mgmt meetup room on friday for things that dhellmann wanted to go over with automation, | 15:13 |
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| ttx | altarentaively we can make it the release management meetup and be done | 15:14 |
| ttx | wow that came out weird | 15:14 |
| mriedem | i wasn't planning on reserving a meetup room just for stable stuff, since i think most of the stable team people will actually be in other meetup rooms for most of friday, since we all work on other projects | 15:14 |
| * ttx blames mosh latency | 15:14 | |
| ttx | mriedem: ack that's a good point | 15:14 |
| ttx | I'll make it mine then | 15:15 |
| mriedem | ok | 15:15 |
| mriedem | did anyone else have anything about summit they wanted to talk about now? | 15:15 |
| mriedem | #info stable + release mgmt will share some time in the release mgmt meetup room on friday at the summit | 15:16 |
| mriedem | #info there will be a fishbowl session to talk about stable branch eol policy between the stable/vmt/infra/qa/release teams at the summit | 15:16 |
| mriedem | #topic release news | 15:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release news (Meeting topic: stable)" | 15:16 | |
| mriedem | Check for stable/liberty point release candidates as we wind down to m-3 | 15:16 |
| mriedem | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/086362.html | 15:17 |
| mriedem | m-3 is past | 15:17 |
| mriedem | but still a reminder | 15:17 |
| mriedem | #action mriedem to check which projects haven't done a stable/liberty release since m-1 | 15:17 |
| mriedem | #topic tagging | 15:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "tagging (Meeting topic: stable)" | 15:17 | |
| ttx | yay | 15:17 |
| mriedem | the stable:follows-policy tag is official | 15:18 |
| mriedem | #link stable:follows-policy tag http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/stable_follows-policy.html | 15:18 |
| mriedem | #info Projects need to start proposing patches to the governance repo to apply the stable:follows-policy tag to their project. | 15:18 |
| ttx | There was some pushback that we should limit usage of stable:* to stable-compliant things | 15:18 |
| ttx | and use series:* for other things | 15:18 |
| mriedem | ttx: are you referring to flaper87's comments? | 15:18 |
| ttx | but then infra has stable/* hardcoded in a lot of places so it's not trivial | 15:19 |
| ttx | mriedem: also comments during the meeting | 15:19 |
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| mriedem | oh, i wasn't there | 15:19 |
| ttx | I sold the tag as a good first step | 15:19 |
| mriedem | so people wanted a series:follows-policy tag? | 15:19 |
| ttx | but we might want to explore that option long-term | 15:19 |
| ttx | no | 15:19 |
| ttx | they wantes to reserve the branch namespace | 15:19 |
| ttx | wanted* | 15:20 |
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| ttx | i.e. only allow stable-compliant tings to name branches stable/something | 15:20 |
| mriedem | oh | 15:20 |
| mriedem | so, if you're not stable compliant, you don't even get stable branches? | 15:20 |
| ttx | but it's not trivial. Like what happens when you need to reame a branch because it's no longer compliant, to series/something | 15:20 |
| ttx | mriedem: you get series branches. | 15:21 |
| mriedem | so series/liberty | 15:21 |
| ttx | yeah. | 15:21 |
| mriedem | and you can backport features and api changes to series/liberty? | 15:21 |
| ttx | you can do whatever you want to series/liberty, even things against stable policy | 15:21 |
| ttx | I still think the tag is a better idea | 15:21 |
| mriedem | hmmm | 15:21 |
| mriedem | yeah | 15:21 |
| ttx | it's more flexible | 15:22 |
| ttx | like we don't screw up everyone if we remove it | 15:22 |
| mriedem | i don't see the point in a series/liberty thing, except for people that want to stay stuck in time and backport features to the release they are running in production and don't want to upgrade | 15:22 |
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| ttx | I'd rather incentivize stable branches to behave properly, and the tag is a stronger way of doing that | 15:22 |
| mriedem | IMO, people should do that out of tree if that's what they want, or fork a repo in github and backport stuff to it there | 15:22 |
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| mriedem | yeah | 15:23 |
| ttx | anyway, just mentioning it, since it was raised | 15:23 |
| mriedem | i also plan on using the tag as a signal for eol | 15:23 |
| mriedem | ok, thanks | 15:23 |
| ttx | no action on our part I think | 15:23 |
| mriedem | no action is best action | 15:23 |
| mriedem | let's move on | 15:23 |
| ttx | I'll probably propose the removal of the "has-stable-branches" tag though | 15:23 |
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| mriedem | #topic stuck reviews | 15:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "stuck reviews (Meeting topic: stable)" | 15:23 | |
| ttx | unless you think this can be redefined to something of value | 15:24 |
| mriedem | well, only question i had on removing that was, do it before or after projects have requested the stable:follows-policy tag? | 15:24 |
| mriedem | or does'nt matter? | 15:24 |
| ttx | If projects have has-stable-branches but not follows-stable-policyt | 15:24 |
| ttx | doesn't matter imho | 15:24 |
| mriedem | agree | 15:25 |
| ttx | but a tthis stage we can wait a bit | 15:25 |
| mriedem | sure, i just proposed the tag for nova yesterday | 15:25 |
| mriedem | and novaclient | 15:25 |
| ttx | let's wait for the usual suspects to have claimed the follows-policy tag and then we'll retire has-stable-branches | 15:25 |
| ttx | when it will be even clearer it's useless | 15:25 |
| mriedem | i wonder if anyone actually consumes the has-stable-branches tag and makes decisions based on it | 15:25 |
| ttx | mriedem: no, it doesn't answer any useful question | 15:25 |
| ttx | and it's woefully out of date anyway | 15:26 |
| mriedem | yeah, +1 for waiting for the integrated gate projects to request the new tag | 15:26 |
| ttx | so it answers the "does it have a stable/* branch" and then you better check the git repo for the authoritative answer | 15:26 |
| mriedem | right :) | 15:26 |
| mriedem | doesn't mean you can install that branch | 15:26 |
| ttx | it's worse than useless in fact, it's confusing | 15:27 |
| mriedem | #topic tooling | 15:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "tooling (Meeting topic: stable)" | 15:27 | |
| mriedem | 1. dhellmann's WIP script to check for unreleased changes | 15:27 |
| mriedem | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270273/ | 15:27 |
| mriedem | that was blocked waiting for the stable:follows-policy tag, which exists now, but doesn't have any projects using it yet | 15:28 |
| mriedem | 2. ihrachys's neutron script to remove backport-potential tag on fixed bugs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245219/ | 15:28 |
| mriedem | in the last meeting when tonyb was going to push up his WIP script for review, i think we said release-tools could be the repo to do that in | 15:29 |
| mriedem | which is what dhellmann was using for #1 above | 15:29 |
| ihrachys | I agree it belongs to release-tools | 15:29 |
| mriedem | ihrachys: i guess if your script is adopted we could eventually generalize it and put it into release-tools | 15:29 |
| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 15:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: stable)" | 15:30 | |
| mriedem | there was nothing on the agenda, | 15:30 |
| mriedem | so anyone have anything? | 15:30 |
| mriedem | not sounding like it | 15:30 |
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| mriedem | let's end early, thanks everyone for showing up | 15:31 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 15:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 8 15:31:07 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-03-08-15.01.html | 15:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-03-08-15.01.txt | 15:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-03-08-15.01.log.html | 15:31 |
| ttx | mriedem: thx! | 15:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hello. | 16:01 |
| bswartz | .o/ | 16:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | time for the documentation - install guide team - meeting | 16:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | #startmeeting docinstallteam | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 8 16:02:10 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sam-I-Am. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'docinstallteam' | 16:02 |
| bswartz | dencaval: courtesy ping | 16:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | we'll get started in a few mins | 16:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | guess we'll go now... | 16:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | old (or ongoing) items first | 16:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | #topic testing and updates for mitaka | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "testing and updates for mitaka (Meeting topic: docinstallteam)" | 16:05 | |
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| Sam-I-Am | i've been testing using RDO packages somewhere between mitaka-2 and -3. | 16:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | all of the 'core' services are updated for mitaka and worked as of whatever version i was testing | 16:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | keystone, glance, nova, neutron, and launching an instance. | 16:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | additional patches for heat, cinder, and a couple of other things are in the review queue | 16:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | additional testing includes swift, manila, and ceilometer | 16:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | anyone else doing any testing? | 16:08 |
| bswartz | well dencaval was doing some testing on manila | 16:09 |
| bswartz | I don't think that's captured on the wiki | 16:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the install guide testing etherpad? | 16:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | we dont use a wiki anymore | 16:10 |
| bswartz | err I have a liki link | 16:10 |
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| bswartz | wiki* | 16:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh? | 16:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | there's a doctesting wiki page | 16:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | but its more for when we get a little closer to release | 16:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/installguide-mitaka | 16:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | the ongoing discussion happens here | 16:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/installguide-mitaka | 16:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | a bit easier to collaborate than a wiki | 16:10 |
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| bswartz | ty | 16:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | toomanydocuments :) | 16:11 |
| bswartz | Still nothing about manila here | 16:11 |
| bswartz | where should the testing be tracked? | 16:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | no one has gotten that far | 16:12 |
| bswartz | just add a section to etherpad? | 16:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | the wiki should be updated to include manila | 16:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the etherpad is organized by install guide chapter, more or less. | 16:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | just add manila somewhere and put notes for it on what you find | 16:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | also, the wiki becomes more useful when we can actually find packages for all distros. right now i'm using RDO because they were the easiest to find and closest to m3 | 16:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | if that makes any sense | 16:14 |
| bswartz | okay I believe at least one bug was found in the .deb packages for ubuntu | 16:14 |
| bswartz | and it's being worked on | 16:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ok. that might be useful info in the etherpad. | 16:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | anything else for manila? | 16:16 |
| bswartz | no i just wanted to bring it up again | 16:17 |
| bswartz | thanks to everyone who helped get the guide merged | 16:17 |
| bswartz | I'll help however I can with qualification and bugfixing | 16:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok | 16:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | not much else to cover here other than continued testing. manila is a big one because its new to the guide and i've never installed it, so nice to see other people working on it. | 16:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | i might give it a shot this week | 16:18 |
| bswartz | sure thing | 16:18 |
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| bswartz | if you run into issues please ping both me an dencaval | 16:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | sure | 16:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, that's all from me | 16:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | we'll call it if there' nothing else | 16:21 |
| bswartz | okay thanks | 16:21 |
| dencaval | Thanks | 16:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | thanks for attending | 16:21 |
| bswartz | early lunch for me | 16:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | nice to see people :) | 16:21 |
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| dencaval | Sorry for being late, but bswartz said everything :D | 16:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | #endmeeting | 16:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | np | 16:22 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 8 16:22:16 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:22 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docinstallteam/2016/docinstallteam.2016-03-08-16.02.html | 16:22 |
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| devkulkarni | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 8 17:00:17 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| devkulkarni | #topic Roll Call | 17:00 |
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| devkulkarni | Devdatta Kulkarni | 17:00 |
| ashishjain | Ashish Jain | 17:00 |
| devkulkarni | hi ashishjain.. lets wait for few minutes for others to join | 17:01 |
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| devkulkarni | in the mean time, here is the agenda for today: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Weekly_Solum_Team_Meeting | 17:01 |
| ashishjain | hi devkulkarni | 17:01 |
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| ashishjain | btw I see we have released a new component solum guest agent | 17:03 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: it is not new | 17:03 |
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| devkulkarni | we have it, but have never used it | 17:03 |
| vijendar | o/ | 17:03 |
| devkulkarni | hi vijendar | 17:03 |
| ashishjain | devkulkarni, okay | 17:03 |
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| devkulkarni | we have ashishjain with us as well | 17:03 |
| devkulkarni | lets wait for another minute and then we can get started | 17:04 |
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| ashishjain | hi vijendar | 17:04 |
| pt_15 | devkulkarni: Hi! | 17:04 |
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| devkulkarni | pt_15: hi | 17:04 |
| devkulkarni | good to see you for the meeting | 17:04 |
| devkulkarni | we have ashishjain and vijendar with us as well | 17:04 |
| devkulkarni | pt_15 and ashishjain: I wanted to get you two introduced as you are in the same timezone (in India) | 17:05 |
| devkulkarni | finally both of you are in the same meeting :) | 17:05 |
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| ashishjain | pt_15 hi | 17:06 |
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| devkulkarni | it will be good to brainstorm and discuss between you two if you run into any issues | 17:07 |
| ashishjain | devkulkarni, agreed | 17:07 |
| devkulkarni | alright, lets get started | 17:07 |
| devkulkarni | here is the agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Weekly_Solum_Team_Meeting | 17:07 |
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| devkulkarni | #topic Announcements | 17:07 |
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| devkulkarni | 1) Our CI/CD talk has been accepted for the Austin summit | 17:07 |
| devkulkarni | https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/7842 | 17:07 |
| devkulkarni | congratulations ashishjain | 17:07 |
| pt_15 | ashishjain: Hi! | 17:07 |
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| pt_15 | Sorry, my internet connection is a little slow today | 17:08 |
| ashishjain | Congratulations devkulkarni, excited to see this | 17:08 |
| devkulkarni | yes, this is very exciting | 17:08 |
| vijendar | congrats to ashishjain and devkulkarni | 17:08 |
| devkulkarni | thanks vijendar | 17:08 |
| ashishjain | vijendar thanks | 17:08 |
| devkulkarni | we all worked towards this actually | 17:08 |
| devkulkarni | so congratulations to the entire team | 17:08 |
| ashishjain | yeah absolutely, | 17:08 |
| ashishjain | congrats to everyone | 17:09 |
| devkulkarni | we now have official time and place to talk about solum | 17:09 |
| vijendar | :) | 17:09 |
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| devkulkarni | lets work towards making this a great presentation now | 17:09 |
| ashishjain | absolutely | 17:09 |
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| vijendar | let's us know if we can help in any way to make this talk a success | 17:09 |
| devkulkarni | +1 vijendar | 17:10 |
| ashishjain | surely vijendar | 17:10 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: let us know if you need any help with Austin travel | 17:10 |
| devkulkarni | we should be able to provide you with pointers to hotels etc. | 17:10 |
| devkulkarni | I am sure the openstack summit website will have this info | 17:10 |
| ashishjain | devkulkarni, sure I am anyways coming to your city this time :D | 17:10 |
| devkulkarni | yep | 17:11 |
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| ashishjain | devkulkarni, My organisation will take care of this but will definitely get in touch with you guys for any pointers | 17:11 |
| devkulkarni | sounds good | 17:11 |
| devkulkarni | yeah, vijendar and I both are in Austin | 17:11 |
| ashishjain | This is my first US travel to so will definitely need lot of pointers :) | 17:11 |
| devkulkarni | and dimtruck and mkam | 17:11 |
| devkulkarni | oh okay | 17:12 |
| ashishjain | wow thats nice | 17:12 |
| devkulkarni | best flight for you might be Bangalore - London - Austin | 17:12 |
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| devkulkarni | we can try to get together as Solum team for a dinner/lunch if folks are interested | 17:12 |
| ashishjain | cool, how much time does it take to US from Bangalore | 17:12 |
| devkulkarni | 16/17 hours of travel time. if you stop in europe it is roughly half each way | 17:13 |
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| ashishjain | devkulkarni, that would be cool, I think last day when the summit ends could be a good day? | 17:13 |
| devkulkarni | there are directly flights to Austin from London, New Jersey, Houston | 17:13 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: sure | 17:13 |
| ashishjain | and openstack anyways provides lot of opportunities to have fun together | 17:13 |
| devkulkarni | let me check with folks and see if we can do something | 17:14 |
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| devkulkarni | yes, that is true | 17:14 |
| ashishjain | devkulkarni, thanks for these flight stuff | 17:14 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: if you direct flights from banglore to NJ or London, that will be the easiest route for you | 17:14 |
| ashishjain | How will weather be in austin, I think it would be pleasant as you pointed out sometime back | 17:14 |
| devkulkarni | if not, then you might have to take two stop flights | 17:14 |
| devkulkarni | yes, the weather will be very pleasant | 17:15 |
| ashishjain | aah okay, would see if I can get direct flight | 17:15 |
| devkulkarni | you would not need to bring snow jacket or anything | 17:15 |
| devkulkarni | a light sweater/jacket and a umbrella should be enough | 17:15 |
| ashishjain | okay, does it rain at this point of time there ? | 17:15 |
| devkulkarni | it does occasionally. | 17:16 |
| ashishjain | okay | 17:16 |
| devkulkarni | alright.. lets continue | 17:16 |
| devkulkarni | we can discuss more about logistics in the open discussion or on solum irc channel | 17:16 |
| devkulkarni | 2) Solum library releases | 17:16 |
| devkulkarni | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2016-March/000987.html | 17:17 |
| devkulkarni | Solum library releases | 17:17 |
| devkulkarni | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2016-March/000988.html | 17:17 |
| devkulkarni | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2016-March/000986.html | 17:17 |
| ashishjain | congratulations to the complete team on these releases | 17:17 |
| devkulkarni | last week the openstack-release team tagged releases for python-solumclient, solum-dashboard, and solum-infra-guestagent | 17:17 |
| devkulkarni | yes, heartiest congratulations on the releases | 17:18 |
| devkulkarni | the release for solum itself is also done | 17:18 |
| ashishjain | btw why is solum not listed on this? | 17:18 |
| devkulkarni | I don't know why the email did not go out on the openstack-announce list | 17:18 |
| devkulkarni | ^ | 17:18 |
| devkulkarni | was planning to check with the release team about this | 17:18 |
| ashishjain | aah okay, so it has been released | 17:18 |
| ashishjain | solum-dashboard? | 17:18 |
| devkulkarni | either that, or it will be released this week | 17:18 |
| ashishjain | solum guest agent? | 17:19 |
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| ashishjain | devkulkarni, do we have more details on these 2 components | 17:19 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: solum-dashboard is horizon plugin for solum | 17:19 |
| ashishjain | okay | 17:19 |
| devkulkarni | we are trying to revive it these days | 17:19 |
| devkulkarni | now that we have end-to-end app deployment working using cli | 17:19 |
| ashishjain | yeah | 17:20 |
| devkulkarni | it will be great if we have the horizon plugin working before the summit | 17:20 |
| devkulkarni | pt_15 is leading this effort | 17:20 |
| devkulkarni | pt_15: do you want to share with the team what have you learnt so far wrt to the solum-dashboard? | 17:21 |
| ashishjain | pt_15 ohh wow, nice | 17:21 |
| devkulkarni | pt_15 has slow internet connection | 17:21 |
| ashishjain | yeah | 17:22 |
| devkulkarni | so while we wait to hear from her, let us continue | 17:22 |
| devkulkarni | 3) Mitaka global bug smash happening this week (March 7 - 9) | 17:22 |
| devkulkarni | if any of you are participating, let me know what bugs you are working on | 17:22 |
| devkulkarni | 4) Updates on end-to-end application deployment in devstack | 17:23 |
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| devkulkarni | https://github.com/devdattakulkarni/solum-provenance/blob/master/steps-to-enable-solum-with-devstack | 17:23 |
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| devkulkarni | https://github.com/openstack/solum/blob/master/devstack/devstack-provenance | 17:23 |
| devkulkarni | https://github.com/rackerlabs/vagrant-solum-dev | 17:23 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: this update is especially for you | 17:23 |
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| ashishjain | devkulkarni, yeah looking | 17:23 |
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| devkulkarni | let me give details about each of those links | 17:23 |
| ashishjain | yeah | 17:23 |
| devkulkarni | the first link is compilation of steps to get to working solum setup in devstack | 17:24 |
| ashishjain | so now we need to follow these steps to build solum? | 17:24 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar, pt_15, and I have all tried those steps and they work | 17:24 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: not necessarily | 17:24 |
| ashishjain | so we no longer use vagrant? | 17:24 |
| devkulkarni | you can also use vagrant | 17:25 |
| devkulkarni | that is the third link above | 17:25 |
| ashishjain | okay but these steps are no longer valid | 17:25 |
| devkulkarni | I have updated vagrant to use these steps as well | 17:25 |
| ashishjain | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/solum/getting_started/ | 17:25 |
| devkulkarni | no the steps given in https://github.com/devdattakulkarni/solum-provenance/blob/master/steps-to-enable-solum-with-devstack are the steps that one can use to setup solum without vagrant | 17:25 |
| ashishjain | vagrant up --provision devstack? | 17:26 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: that will also work | 17:26 |
| ashishjain | aah okay | 17:26 |
| ashishjain | cool | 17:26 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: let me give some background | 17:26 |
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| pt_15 | devkulkarni: ashishjain: wrt to the solum-dashboard one of the main things that needed to be done was rearranging of the folder since the new horizon plugin api requires a different structure than the current one | 17:26 |
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| ashishjain | sure devkulkarni | 17:26 |
| devkulkarni | couple of weeks back, former ptl of cinder asked us in our irc meeting if there are any steps to start solum in devstack without using vagrant | 17:27 |
| devkulkarni | that led me to creating this: https://github.com/devdattakulkarni/solum-provenance/blob/master/steps-to-enable-solum-with-devstack | 17:27 |
| ashishjain | okay | 17:27 |
| devkulkarni | of course, the main issue for us for the longest time has been that the app not becoming READY | 17:27 |
| devkulkarni | I wanted to solve that as well | 17:27 |
| ashishjain | correct | 17:28 |
| ashishjain | how did you solve it? | 17:28 |
| devkulkarni | after lot of trial and error and googling, I realized that the issue is with neutron and IPv6 | 17:28 |
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| devkulkarni | so the solution is this: | 17:28 |
| devkulkarni | in local.conf we have set variables to make neutron not create IPv6 subnets at all | 17:28 |
| devkulkarni | https://github.com/devdattakulkarni/solum-provenance/blob/master/local.conf#L24 | 17:29 |
| devkulkarni | https://github.com/devdattakulkarni/solum-provenance/blob/master/local.conf#L25 | 17:29 |
| devkulkarni | that is all | 17:29 |
| devkulkarni | this causes neutron to only create ipv4 subnets | 17:29 |
| ashishjain | nice, so earlier was neutron only creating ipv6? | 17:30 |
| devkulkarni | and this in turn allows nova and docker to correctly use ipv4 addresses | 17:30 |
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| devkulkarni | no, neutron was creating both ipv6 and ipv4 | 17:30 |
| ashishjain | okay | 17:30 |
| devkulkarni | what was happening was, randomly nova would get ipv6 address from neutron | 17:30 |
| ashishjain | okay | 17:30 |
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| devkulkarni | and that was causing issues for docker | 17:31 |
| devkulkarni | it is explained in this link: | 17:31 |
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| devkulkarni | http://blog.oddbit.com/2015/02/11/installing-novadocker-with-devstack/ | 17:31 |
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| devkulkarni | check the comment by nindate | 17:31 |
| devkulkarni | that comment was the clue | 17:32 |
| devkulkarni | so ashishjain | 17:32 |
| devkulkarni | if you currently have devstack vm | 17:32 |
| devkulkarni | I would suggest add those two configuration variables in local.conf | 17:32 |
| devkulkarni | and then try unstack and stack | 17:32 |
| devkulkarni | if you don't have devstack vm, I would suggest to pull latest Vagrantfile from vagrant repo | 17:33 |
| devkulkarni | and then try vagrant up —provision | 17:33 |
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| devkulkarni | ashishjain: about the liberasurecode issue | 17:33 |
| ashishjain | devkulkarni, just updated the vagrant source, will that help? | 17:33 |
| devkulkarni | yes, that should help | 17:33 |
| ashishjain | aaah ya that should help | 17:34 |
| devkulkarni | I have fixed the liberarurecode issue in Vagrantfile | 17:34 |
| devkulkarni | https://github.com/rackerlabs/vagrant-solum-dev/blob/master/Vagrantfile#L263 | 17:34 |
| ashishjain | actually I tried manually installing this library .. liberasurecode-dev somehow it fails all th time | 17:34 |
| ashishjain | anyways thanks for these fixes devkulkarni | 17:35 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: most likely it is failing because it it not finding in sources | 17:35 |
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| ashishjain | will try it out and let you know my feedback | 17:35 |
| devkulkarni | liberasurecode-dev is available in trusty-backports | 17:35 |
| devkulkarni | we need to add it to sources | 17:35 |
| ashishjain | devkulkarni, aah okay I was adding main universe | 17:35 |
| devkulkarni | echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-backports main restricted universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list | 17:35 |
| devkulkarni | echo "deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-backports main restricted universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list | 17:35 |
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| devkulkarni | check lines 263-268 in Vagrantfile | 17:36 |
| ashishjain | devkulkarni, yeah it is there in the Vagrantfile | 17:36 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: definitely try it and let me know if it works for you or not | 17:36 |
| ashishjain | devkulkarni, sure | 17:36 |
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| devkulkarni | cool | 17:36 |
| devkulkarni | thanks pt_15 | 17:36 |
| devkulkarni | alright | 17:37 |
| devkulkarni | lets move next topic | 17:37 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Action Items | 17:37 |
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| devkulkarni | (done) Sending space request to summit organizers. Have requested for 1 fishbowl session and 1 work session OR 1 fishbowl session. | 17:37 |
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| devkulkarni | By last friday all the projects were required to submit request for the space required at the Austin summit to the summit organizers | 17:37 |
| ashishjain | devkulkarni, what is fishbowl session | 17:38 |
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| devkulkarni | ashishjain: the same kind of session that we had in Tokyo | 17:38 |
| ashishjain | okay and what about design summit | 17:38 |
| devkulkarni | basically a session to provide overall project details etc. | 17:38 |
| ashishjain | devkulkarni, okay | 17:38 |
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| devkulkarni | ashishjain: fishbowl and worksessions are part of the design summit | 17:39 |
| anteaya | fishbowls are meant to be discussion sessions | 17:39 |
| devkulkarni | the difference between the two is this | 17:39 |
| anteaya | worksessions are meant to be like a code sprint session | 17:39 |
| devkulkarni | yes | 17:39 |
| devkulkarni | it is mainly meant for the contributors | 17:39 |
| ashishjain | anteaya, thanks | 17:39 |
| anteaya | welcome | 17:39 |
| devkulkarni | to come together and discuss about next items to work on etc. | 17:40 |
| ashishjain | okay so we have only 1 design session | 17:40 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: we have requested for 1 work session and 1 fishbowl session | 17:40 |
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| devkulkarni | I think that should be enough for us | 17:40 |
| ashishjain | devkulkarni, okay | 17:40 |
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| devkulkarni | if we don't get work session (due to space constraints), then we have requested for 1 fishbowl session | 17:41 |
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| devkulkarni | this time around there are several new projects and the space is limited | 17:41 |
| ashishjain | okay | 17:41 |
| devkulkarni | cool | 17:41 |
| ashishjain | what are the new projects devkulkarni | 17:41 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: there were quite a few accepted into the the big tent. don't remember off the top of my head | 17:42 |
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| devkulkarni | can find out before the next meeting | 17:42 |
| ashishjain | devkulkarni, sure let us discuss on out channgel | 17:42 |
| devkulkarni | sounds good | 17:42 |
| ashishjain | *our channel | 17:42 |
| devkulkarni | lets quickly go through the next topics | 17:42 |
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| devkulkarni | #topic Patches for Review | 17:42 |
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| devkulkarni | 1) Solum dashboard | 17:42 |
| devkulkarni | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/solum-dashboard+status:open,n,z | 17:43 |
| devkulkarni | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277197/ | 17:43 |
| devkulkarni | these are patches on the solum-dashboard repo | 17:43 |
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| devkulkarni | looks like all of them are failing due to similar issues | 17:43 |
| devkulkarni | pep8 is failing because of some pbr issue | 17:43 |
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| devkulkarni | if any of you have time, check out the errors and see if you get any ideas | 17:44 |
| vijendar | what is going on with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263624/ | 17:44 |
| devkulkarni | I will also spend some time today looking at these | 17:44 |
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| devkulkarni | vijendar: yes, good point | 17:44 |
| vijendar | all gates are failing for this | 17:44 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar: I was looking into it this morning | 17:45 |
| devkulkarni | for pep8, it looks to be a pbr issue | 17:45 |
| devkulkarni | http://logs.openstack.org/24/263624/2/check/gate-solum-dashboard-pep8/10f7137/console.html | 17:45 |
| devkulkarni | http://logs.openstack.org/24/263624/2/check/gate-solum-dashboard-pep8/10f7137/console.html#_2016-03-08_09_56_52_882 | 17:45 |
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| devkulkarni | same thing for the docs gate | 17:45 |
| devkulkarni | http://logs.openstack.org/24/263624/2/check/gate-solum-dashboard-docs/57b6f45/console.html#_2016-03-08_09_54_13_383 | 17:45 |
| vijendar | ok | 17:46 |
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| devkulkarni | same for py27 | 17:46 |
| devkulkarni | http://logs.openstack.org/24/263624/2/check/gate-solum-dashboard-python27/a64902e/console.html#_2016-03-08_09_53_19_706 | 17:46 |
| devkulkarni | and for pypy | 17:47 |
| devkulkarni | http://logs.openstack.org/24/263624/2/check/gate-solum-dashboard-pypy/2bc79c1/console.html#_2016-03-08_09_55_06_928 | 17:47 |
| ashishjain | None of these links seems to be working http://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/solum-infra-guestagent | 17:47 |
| ashishjain | https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum-infra-guestagent | 17:47 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: where did you get these links? | 17:47 |
| ashishjain | devkulkarni, the guest agent announcement | 17:47 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar: I am suspecting that fixing that pbr issue will unblock all the other patches as well | 17:47 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: oh ok | 17:48 |
| ashishjain | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2016-March/000986.html | 17:48 |
| devkulkarni | let me check | 17:48 |
| vijendar | ok | 17:48 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: hmm.. strange | 17:49 |
| devkulkarni | I will check with the release team about this | 17:49 |
| devkulkarni | thanks for catching it | 17:49 |
| devkulkarni | I haven't looked at the other announcement emails | 17:49 |
| devkulkarni | will be good to check those as well | 17:49 |
| ashishjain | solum-dashboard mail does not have any links | 17:50 |
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| devkulkarni | how about python-solumclient | 17:50 |
| ashishjain | that too does not have any links | 17:50 |
| ashishjain | about source, or other details | 17:51 |
| devkulkarni | ok, so it is just the solum guest agent | 17:51 |
| devkulkarni | let me check with the release team about this | 17:51 |
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| ashishjain | ideally announcements will not have any links? | 17:51 |
| devkulkarni | seems like some announcements have links some others don't | 17:52 |
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| devkulkarni | probably, the first announcement of a project might have links in that annoucement | 17:52 |
| devkulkarni | since this was probably the first announcement for guest agent, hence it had links | 17:52 |
| ashishjain | ok | 17:52 |
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| devkulkarni | I don't remember if we had released it before | 17:52 |
| devkulkarni | cool | 17:53 |
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| devkulkarni | we have just about 7 minutes | 17:53 |
| devkulkarni | let me skip over to open discussion | 17:53 |
| devkulkarni | the bugs which I have listed are from last week | 17:53 |
| devkulkarni | no new bug has been filed in this week | 17:53 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar: I saw that you had updated the separate app data and param data bug description with details | 17:54 |
| devkulkarni | thanks for that | 17:54 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Open discussion | 17:54 |
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| devkulkarni | 1) Push to move away from WSME | 17:54 |
| devkulkarni | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088658.html | 17:54 |
| devkulkarni | there was an email this morning about wsme | 17:54 |
| devkulkarni | basically, wsme seems to be not well maintained and folks are suggesting projects to move away from it if possible | 17:55 |
| devkulkarni | we use wsme and pecan | 17:55 |
| devkulkarni | it will be good for us to figure out what will it take to move away from wsme | 17:55 |
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| devkulkarni | 2) Keystone single sign-on research | 17:55 |
| devkulkarni | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088674.html | 17:55 |
| devkulkarni | This came out today as well. | 17:56 |
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| devkulkarni | 3) Configuration management tool for OpenStack | 17:57 |
| devkulkarni | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088518.html | 17:57 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: I thought you might be able to provide feedback on this thread based on your use of kolla and openstack-ansible | 17:57 |
| devkulkarni | 4) New API guidelines for review | 17:58 |
| devkulkarni | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088568.html | 17:58 |
| devkulkarni | there are new API guidelines for review | 17:58 |
| devkulkarni | I had some comments regarding header definitions | 17:58 |
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| ashishjain | devkulkarni, OpenStack CM | 17:58 |
| devkulkarni | if you have interest, I would encourage you to check the patch and provide any feedback | 17:58 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: yeah, openstack configuration management | 17:59 |
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| devkulkarni | that is all I had in open discussion | 17:59 |
| devkulkarni | anything else that we should discuss today? | 17:59 |
| devkulkarni | alright.. it is top of the hour | 18:00 |
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| devkulkarni | thanks vijendar, ashishjain, pt_15 for joining today's meeting | 18:00 |
| ashishjain | thanks devkulkarni | 18:00 |
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| devkulkarni | see you next week (and in solum irc channel before that) | 18:00 |
| devkulkarni | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 8 18:00:39 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-03-08-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-03-08-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-03-08-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
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| briancurtin | rtheis: you have anything to meet about? | 19:00 |
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| rtheis | briancurtin: I had one question | 19:01 |
| briancurtin | what’s up | 19:01 |
| rtheis | I noticed BoolStr does same for serialize and deserialize | 19:01 |
| rtheis | Seems like it should handle both directions | 19:01 |
| rtheis | It doesn't impact current usages now but I think it should be changed | 19:02 |
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| briancurtin | interesting | 19:02 |
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| rtheis | Not sure if you recall why it worked like that | 19:02 |
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| briancurtin | it might have to do with how we’re always storing the string version of things internally? in resource.prop.__set__ even if something is a bool or int, we’re storing str(bool(val)) or str(int(val))? i don’t recall the specifics of BoolStr off hand | 19:05 |
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| rtheis | ok, I'll look into it | 19:06 |
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| rtheis | briancurtin: Did you want any reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289998/ yet? | 19:09 |
| rtheis | I was planning to hold off until WIP removed | 19:10 |
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| briancurtin | rtheis: if you have the time, it would be great. i don’t suspect resource2.py will change very much, though there are some TODOs left in there. the core concept of it is pretty solid, and it works in practice. i have to assume i’ll find small things while writing tests, but it’s mostly ready to go | 19:11 |
| rtheis | ok | 19:11 |
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| rtheis | briancurtin: I don't have anything else at this time | 19:15 |
| rtheis | do you have anything? | 19:15 |
| briancurtin | rtheis: cool. is your WIP still WIP or worth a look now? | 19:15 |
| rtheis | briancurtin: still a WIP for now | 19:15 |
| briancurtin | alright, i’ll keep an eye on that to come off of it. other than that, i’m just plugging away at the unit tests for the resource refactor | 19:16 |
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| rtheis | cool | 19:16 |
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