Wednesday, 2016-08-17

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njohnston#startmeeting fwaas04:00
SridarKHi FWaaS folks04:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 17 04:00:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is njohnston. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.04:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.04:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'fwaas'04:00
njohnstonHi everyone!04:00
SarathMekalaHi all O/04:00
SridarKHi All04:00
SridarKbeen a busy week04:00
njohnstonindeed!04:00
SridarKthx all for pulling together04:00
yushiroHi!04:00
SridarKlets get started and move quickly04:00
SridarK#topic FWaaS v204:00
chandanc_Hi04:01
SridarKnjohnston: oops need chair priv pls04:01
njohnstonoops04:01
njohnston#chair SridarK04:01
openstackCurrent chairs: SridarK njohnston04:01
njohnston#chair xgerman04:01
openstackCurrent chairs: SridarK njohnston xgerman04:01
njohnston#chair yushiro04:01
openstackCurrent chairs: SridarK njohnston xgerman yushiro04:01
SridarK#topic FWaaS v204:01
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yushironjohnston, thanks :)04:01
SridarKthx njohnston04:01
SridarKlets run thru the patches in order04:01
SridarK#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264489/04:02
SridarKfor ext04:02
shwetaapHi, I think mine should be first .. i have addressed the comments. I should have the new patch up in like 5 mins.04:02
njohnstonExcellent, thanks shwetaap!04:03
SridarKshwetaap: ok thx - i was just checking04:03
hoangcxHi04:03
yushiroshwetaap, great.  I'll review it again.04:03
SridarKshwetaap: all comments addressed ?04:03
SridarKi will review too, we can try to sign off tonight pending Jenkins04:03
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SridarKshwetaap: just to be safe - pls rebase b4 u push04:04
njohnstonCurrent Jenkins gate queue delay is like 12 hours, so it'll take a bit. :-(04:04
SridarKnjohnston: sigh04:04
njohnstonhttps://twitter.com/openstackstatus/status/76574047332777164804:04
shwetaapsure, i was running into git issues. But should be up in a bit. Yea I think there were commens from njohnston, yushiro and SridarK04:04
shwetaapi have addressed those.04:04
SridarKshwetaap: ok - pls to do UT run too - so we can avoid another spin thru Jenkins04:05
SridarKshwetaap: thx04:05
shwetaapyea the UT's are passing locally04:05
SridarKok cool lets move on04:05
SridarK#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/311159/04:05
SridarKthe db patch04:05
SridarKnjohnston: and i have been working thru this04:05
njohnstonindeed, and thanks all for the valuable input04:06
SridarKran into an issue with project_id which was painful04:06
SridarKso we came to an agreement that we will revert back to tenant_id04:06
SridarKhad issues with context getting set properly, i think neutron has to do some changes here04:07
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SridarKyushiro: thx for ur help04:07
njohnstonAfter the tenant_id problem, there are some lingering UT issues, but a number of them look like legitimate logic errors.04:07
yushiroSridarK, no warries.04:07
njohnstonSo I am grateful for the UTs, they are helping us04:07
SridarKnjohnston: yes likely - we can pick them off quickly over tomorrow04:07
yushiroSridarK, +1 to revert 'tenant_id'.04:07
njohnstonyes04:07
SridarKsigh yes made it almost feel like TDD :-)04:07
njohnstonTDD - tears driven development :-)04:08
SridarKROTFL !!04:08
SarathMekala:D04:08
yushiroTDD!04:08
SridarKafter breaking my head from Sun, i also should thank one my colleagues (Bob Melander) who provided another set of eyes04:09
yushiroSridarK, njohnston I've commented into DB patch. sorry for periodic comment. But please check it.04:09
njohnstonyushiro: The periodic comment is no problem at all. :-)04:09
SridarKit is kind of painful to debug the REST errors as we dont kind of know what exactly failed04:10
yushironjohnston, thanks.04:10
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njohnstonyushiro: I have 33000 emails in my Openstack mailbox, one or two more is not a problem.04:10
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SridarKnjohnston: +1 many thx yushiro - it has been very helpful04:10
yushironjohnston, wow, thanks for your kindness.04:10
yushiroSridarK, no warries.  I think we shouldn't use context.get_admin_context()04:11
SridarKnjohnston: & I will push thru on this and we hope we will have it ready by end of day tomorrow04:11
njohnstonYes, very optimistic we can get the DB patch merged in the next 24 hours.04:11
SridarKyushiro: yes i agree - but thx for ur patience in providing insight - my brain had become mush04:12
SridarKnjohnston: anything else to add on this04:12
njohnstonNothing terribly important, no.04:12
njohnstonJust little things to chase down04:12
SridarKnjohnston: ok yes agree04:13
SridarKok moving on next to the plugin04:13
SridarK#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267046/04:13
SridarKi kind of went over to help out on the db patch, so i got back to this today - i think i wired up the basic UT with the right extensions04:13
SridarKbasically in need to get the UT in place, and a few clean up items on it04:14
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SridarKthe plugin mostly passes things over to the db - where most of the heavy lifting is done04:14
SridarKwe will keep the old rpc model for now to get things in coordination with mfranc213 & chandanc_ 's patch04:15
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SridarKwhich we can get to next04:15
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SridarKL3 Agent + Driver (mfranc213 & chandanc_ )04:16
SridarK#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337699/04:16
njohnstonmfranc213 has been working on the UTs04:17
SridarKi think this patch is mostly in place, mfranc213 also added in the UTs04:17
SridarKnjohnston: identical thoughts :-)04:17
njohnston:-)04:17
SridarKchandanc_: thx for jumping in with the driver piece04:17
SridarKand also running the end to end tests04:17
chandanc_no worries, was a oppertunity to learn :)04:17
SridarKwhich gives another measure of confidence over and above the UT04:18
chandanc_BTW once you guys are mostly done with the patches i would like to do a final integration test04:18
SridarKchandanc_: i think mfranc213 went ahead and added some UT for the driver too - as she communicatd to u04:18
chandanc_yes04:18
SridarKchandanc_: yes that will be good04:19
njohnstonchandanc_: absolutely, we should all do so04:19
SridarKif we find some issues we can pick it up in one of the later patches too04:19
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SridarKok with that we cover our first major push04:19
SridarKfolks pls feel free to interrupt with any questions or thoughts04:20
SridarKok lets move on04:20
SridarK#topic FWaaS v2 Phase 204:20
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shwetaapthe new patch is uploaded, once the jenkins test completes, please review the patch.04:21
SridarKThe next critical patch to go in should be the CLI patch04:21
SridarKin terms of time lines i believe04:21
njohnstonagreed04:21
SridarKyushiro: i know u have this in progress04:21
SridarKis there anything u will need ?04:22
yushiroSridarK, Yes.  in CLI patch, I've refrected comments in my local env.04:22
SridarKyushiro: ok04:22
yushiroI'll push the CLI patch within today.04:22
SridarKif it is easy - we can add that to our integration test04:22
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SridarKyushiro: ok great04:22
chandanc_sure can have it in the integration test04:23
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yushiroI'm considering the command format.  Hence, please feel free comment my next CLI patch.04:23
njohnstonwill do yushiro!04:23
SridarK+104:24
yushirothank you all!04:24
SridarKone thing we should think abt is how to reflect the L2 model04:24
SridarKbecause unlike L3, we will need to dynamically add as a VM comes up04:25
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SridarKsomething to think abt04:25
SridarKmay be we can exchg some emails04:25
chandanc_I think you will get a call through the L2 ext right ?04:25
njohnstonI've been looking at the L2 code, and I have some thoughts04:25
njohnstonyes, should be a create port RPC message will come through04:26
SridarKnjohnston: yes that is my understanding04:26
padkrish_SridarK# aren't we hooking with the OVS neutron agent for port update events to address that?04:26
SridarKpadkrish_: yes i think thru the L2 ext framework as njohnston is saying04:26
njohnstonyes +104:26
padkrish_SridarK# yes, that already seems to be there...need to tie in all the pieces04:27
njohnstonI think it's pretty close04:27
njohnstonall the pieces are there04:27
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SridarKnjohnston: perhaps we will need to state that we want the fw applied in some for to all VMs in project for example04:27
padkrish_#njohnston# if my memory serves me right, we may need to add some parameters to the get_port_details RPC....04:27
SridarKsince we will not be tied in to nova create04:27
padkrish_Will confirm04:27
njohnstonBut yes, let's get an email chain started04:28
yushiropadkrish_, Sorry, a trigger method is 'handle_port' ?04:28
SridarKnjohnston: yes04:28
padkrish_yushiro# yes, from agent perspective.04:28
njohnstonpadkrish_: could you email the details that need to be added to get_port_details?04:29
yushiropadkrish_, OK. we're on same page :)04:29
padkrish_njohnston# sure, will do04:29
njohnstonthanks!04:29
SridarKok i think we can have a plan in place quickly04:29
SridarKnjohnston: is already thinking abt this, mfranc213: & padkrish_ are looking at versioned obj - so i think in some combination of folks04:30
SridarKwe can get this ball rolling04:30
njohnstonyep04:30
SridarKoh and the other piece is the L3 agent ext framework in all of this04:31
yushiroyes04:31
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SridarKnjohnston: great congrats on the patch getting merged04:31
njohnstonthanks!04:31
yushironjohnston, congrats!!04:32
SridarKnjohnston: now we will also refactor the L3 agent around this correct ?04:32
njohnstonmfranc213 has put up a PS for refactoring the fwaas L3 extension to use the L3 agent extension mechanism04:32
njohnston#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355576/04:32
njohnstonSo thanks to her we are ahead of the game there04:32
SridarKoh ok great - yes - she did mention this - yes04:32
SridarKok that is covered too04:33
njohnstonIt's on my 'to review' list as soon as we get past the DB patch04:33
SridarKok so we have our work cut out over the next few days04:33
SridarKnow on the iptables pieces04:33
SridarKchandanc_: & SarathMekala: pls go ahead04:33
SridarKchandanc_: thx for reaching to get this on kevin's radar04:34
njohnston#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348177/04:34
njohnstonI hope we can get attention on it while the midcycle is going on04:34
chandanc_We had some back from Kevin on the commit message, he also went through our doc04:34
SridarKnjohnston: yes - chandanc_ has added it to the etherpad04:34
SarathMekalaYep. Will be great if we can get the code reviewed04:34
chandanc_yes the etherpad is updated04:35
chandanc_I can reachout to Kevin once more for a reminder04:35
SridarKhoangcx: many thx for addin Ha Van also04:35
chandanc_Is there anyone else who can give us some feedback on the patch ?04:35
chandanc_yes SridarK04:36
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hoangcxSridarK: No problem.04:36
SridarKchandanc_: i think u can reach out to Ha Van04:36
chandanc_sure will do04:36
SridarKhoangcx: pls help make this happen andn many thanks04:36
hoangcxSridarK: He is investigating in the design. Will push comments soon (maybe today or tomorrow).04:37
chandanc_We are going to start with the driver patch this week04:37
SridarKhoangcx: ok great04:37
SridarKthx04:37
yushirohoangcx, thanks.04:37
hoangcxSridarK: Thank you too :-)04:37
SarathMekalaWe have gone through Yushiro's L2 agent code04:38
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SarathMekalawill reachout to him for integrating with the driver code304:38
yushiroSarathMekala, OK.04:39
SridarKSarathMekala: ok thx04:39
SridarKand how are things looking with the driver - should that be straightfwd along the lines of the L304:40
SridarKonce u have the neutron piece in place and the L2 Agent piece - the driver as such will bind the rules to a VM port04:40
chandanc_I think it will be a bigger change then the l3 agent, We have looked at Mickeys patch as referance04:40
SridarKchandanc_: ok04:40
chandanc_yes SridarK04:41
SridarKpls let us know how we can help04:41
njohnston+104:41
chandanc_sure04:41
SarathMekalasure.. will ping you for any info04:42
SridarKhoangcx: we will keep Ha Van in the loop for any suggestions or help too04:42
SridarKas time is short04:42
SarathMekalaok04:42
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hoangcxSridarK: Sure. He is yours :-)04:42
SridarKok anything else on the driver pieces04:42
SridarKhoangcx: thx04:43
SridarK:-)04:43
SridarKchandanc_: & SarathMekala: pls reach out04:43
SridarKu heard it from hoangcx: :-)04:43
chandanc_No , we will start by reaching out to Yushiro04:43
SarathMekala:D.. sure04:43
SarathMekalawe will be coming out with a patch soon04:43
SridarKok cool04:44
SridarKif nothing else lets move on04:44
SridarK#topic new cores04:44
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SridarKas in the email congrats and thx to njohnston: & yushiro: for taking on the additional responsibilities04:45
SridarKthis will enable our velocity04:45
padkrish_+104:45
SarathMekalaCongrats njhonston & yushiro04:45
chandanc_Congrats to Nate and Yushiro04:45
njohnstonThanks for the trust.  Please let me know, anyone, if I can help you.04:45
hoangcxcongrats to Nate and Yushiro :-)04:46
yushiroThank you all!  I'll do my best to realize FWaaS v2!!04:46
SridarK+104:46
SridarK#topic open discussion04:46
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SridarKfirstly many thx for the cohesiveness of the team - we are all kind of all over the place - helping out as needed04:47
SridarKwe will probab work in this fashion with a little lack of structure to push things fwd04:47
njohnston+10004:47
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yushiro:)04:48
yushiroHi, I have 1 thing about firewall_group status.  I'd like to sync my understanding with you.04:48
SridarKthe next few days are going to be crazy. Lets target by Fri to get things in to give us a little buffer04:48
SridarKyushiro: yes pls04:49
SridarK(by next week Fri)04:49
yushiroyes, in my understanding, the 'status' of firewall_group relates port association.04:50
SarathMekalais it only L3 for next Fri?04:50
yushirono ports association -> "INACTIVE",  associated ports -> "ACTIVE", waiting for update -> "PENDING_UPDATE", waiting for delete -> "PENDING_DELETE"04:51
SridarKyushiro: yes and also to reflect that the driver has applied the changes and it is marked ACTIVE04:51
SridarKyushiro: yes exactly04:51
SridarKSarathMekala: no the week of Aug 29 is Feature Freeze - i would not count on that week04:52
SridarKnjohnston: am i correct ?04:52
yushiroSridarK, OK, thanks. So, how about current situation?  firewall_group has no ingress_firewall_policy_id and egress_firewall_policy_id and associated with ports.04:52
njohnstonSridarK: yes04:52
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SridarKyushiro: that is interesting - we cannot really apply anything04:53
SridarKearlier the policy was a mandatory attribute04:53
SridarKnow we have a default of NULL - which makes sense as we need not have both ingress and egress04:54
yushiroSridarK, Yes.  That's is my opinion.  How about changing mandatory params either 'ingress_firewall_policy_id' or 'egress_firewall_policy_id'?04:54
SridarKyushiro: yes04:54
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SridarKwe can do the validation in the plugin04:55
SridarKwe can still keep the attribute spec as optional04:55
SridarKbut the plugin can check if either one is present04:55
yushiroSridarK, OK. I understand.04:55
SridarKand we have to handle the update case on fw grp04:56
SridarKwhat if we ingress policy only04:56
yushiroSridarK, Sure. we also take care about it.04:56
SridarKand now we update the fw grp and try to remove it04:56
SridarKwe can fail that04:56
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SridarKwe can also create a fwg and if no policy we can keep it INACTIVE and we can fail if user tries to bind ports to  a fwg that has no policy04:58
SarathMekalayushiro: Earlier we had an option to start the firewall with state DOWN. Hope its taken care with Firewall groups as well.04:58
yushiroSridarK, ah, yes! it's better.04:58
SridarKgreat point yushiro: - we are almost out of time - shall we continue on email04:58
SridarKor on irc04:58
yushiroSridarK, sure. I'll send e-mail to all.04:58
SridarKok we are almost at time04:58
SridarKyushiro: +104:59
njohnston+104:59
SridarKwe can add the L2 discussion also04:59
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SridarKok thanks again all04:59
SridarKlets get those patches merging04:59
njohnstonyes!04:59
SridarKbye all04:59
njohnston#endmeeting05:00
yushiroyes.05:00
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SarathMekalabye o/05:00
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soichi#startmeeting taas05:32
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 17 05:32:44 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is soichi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.05:32
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soichihi05:32
kazhi05:32
soichianyone else?05:34
soichihello05:36
soichistill wating05:41
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soichiit seems taas folks are taking summer vacation, so i'd like to skip today's IRC meeting05:45
soichisee you next week05:45
kazbye05:45
soichi#endmeeting05:45
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soichibye05:46
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reedipoh05:46
reediphi05:47
soichihi05:47
soichido you have any topic?05:47
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soichianil_rao: hi05:48
anil_raoHi05:48
soichilet's start?05:48
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anil_raoSorry for being late.05:48
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soichi#startmeeting taas05:49
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 17 05:49:18 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is soichi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.05:49
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soichihi05:49
anil_raoHi05:49
kazhi05:49
anil_raokaz: Welcome back05:49
kazhi anil_rao05:50
soichi#topic Open Discussion05:50
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soichido you have any update?05:50
anil_raoYes, I have an update on the bug05:50
anil_raoI ran several tests and it appears that the packets are untagged for only one VLAN on a host.05:51
anil_raoThis is typically the VLAN with the lowest numerical ID.05:51
anil_raoI am inclined to belive that this is an internal optimization in OVS but I will try to confirm this with the folks on the OVS list.05:52
anil_raoI have a fix that I am testing out.05:53
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soichiit sounds great05:53
anil_raoIt comprises of using two flows to capture unicast packets ingressing a VM's vNIC05:54
anil_raoand two flows to capture multicast/broadcast packets ingressing that VM's vNIC.05:54
anil_raoThe multicast/broadcast flows are of course assocaited with the vNIC's VLAN.05:55
anil_raoOne of the flows will have the associated VLAN id and the destination MAC.05:55
anil_raothe other flow will check for untagged packets and the destination MAC.05:56
anil_raoThe flow with the VLAN id has a slightly higher priority, so if the packets have VLAN tags it will be captured by this flow.05:56
anil_raoOtherwise, it will be captured by the flow for untagged packets.05:56
soichii see05:57
anil_raoI will conduct more tests over the next couple of days and if all looks good I'll send out a review request.05:57
soichithank you05:57
anil_raoI have noticed that the flow that looks for untagged frames has matches only for one VLAN per host.05:58
anil_raoFor capturing packets egressing from a VM's vNIC we will continue to use the existing flow that is based on the in_port check.05:59
anil_raoA similar logic, i.e. using two separate flows, will be employed to capture broadcast/multicast packets ingressing a VM's vNIC.06:00
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soichiIs the uniqueness of MAC related to matching rule mentioned above?06:00
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anil_raoYes, as confirmed by Armando, MAC addresses are considered unique only within a single virtual network.06:01
soichii see06:01
anil_raoThis is why we have been using dst mac address + VLAN id for our ingress flows.06:01
soichiyes06:02
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soichiwe will review your patch and test on our site after your submittion06:03
anil_raosoichi: Thanks!06:04
soichisubmittion -> submission06:04
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soichiKaz is working for performance mesurement06:05
anil_raoThat is great. I am waiting for this bug fix to be completed before I set up the hardware based environment in my lab.06:06
anil_raoThen I can do some perf tests too06:06
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kazI am trying to measure the performance when the source VMs of iperf are increased.06:06
soichii think we can share results on next week IRC meeting06:07
anil_raokaz,soichi: Yes, that will be awesome. Thanks.06:07
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soichiany other topics?06:10
soichireedip?06:10
reedipHi06:10
anil_raoHi06:10
reedipno topics, wanted to know though when are we starting the work on the presentation ??06:10
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soichii guess we need to start preparation in the begining of Sep.06:11
anil_raoWe need to get selected first. ;-)06:12
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soichisure06:12
soichii think we will get notification in the end of Aug06:13
reedipOops , I forgot!06:13
reedipsorry!06:13
reedip:)06:13
anil_raoreedip: What was the issue that you had brought up last week but we kind of ran out of time.06:14
reedipanil_rao devstack issue, I have not yet tried it again06:14
reedipdevstack is not working with the latest tag06:14
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anil_raoreedip: Are you referring to the native iface issue?06:15
reedipanil_rao, I will share the error on the email06:15
anil_raoreedip: sure.06:16
reedipanil_rao : I habve redeployed it, so it would take some time but will give a result soon06:18
reedipu can check it tomorrow morning06:18
reedipamotoki and I both faced that issue with taas06:18
anil_raoreedip: Thanks. I'll watch out for your email tomorrow06:19
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reedipanil_rao : if it fails:)06:20
anil_rao:)06:20
soichihow quick!06:21
soichino more topics from me06:22
anil_raoNo more topics from me too.06:22
soichiit is a little bit earlier, but can we close today's IRC?06:23
kazi also have no topic06:23
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anil_raosoichi: Yes.06:23
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soichi#endmeeting06:23
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Aug 17 06:23:58 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)06:24
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anil_raoBye.06:24
soichibye06:24
kazbye06:24
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SalmanMwhats the lastest10:33
SalmanMGuys, i just installed devstack Mitaka but I don't see Tap service button in the dashboard... what other steps I need to take in order to make available the TAP Service Button in the Horizon Dashboard?10:34
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sagar_nikamHi All13:01
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claudiub|2#startmeeting hyper-v13:02
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 17 13:02:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is claudiub|2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:02
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sagar_nikamHi13:03
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itoaderHi13:04
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claudiub|3hello13:04
sagar_nikamhello13:05
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claudiub|4hm, there's a storm here in romania13:05
claudiub|4keep getting disconnected13:05
claudiub|4and I won't be able to change topics now. :(13:06
claudiub|4since the chair was registered as claudiub|213:06
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sagar_nikamno problem13:06
sagar_nikamwe can start13:06
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claudiub|2hm, this should work I think13:07
claudiub|2so, first of all, there aren't many updates, since most of our team is on vacation13:07
claudiub|2#topic monasca status13:07
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claudiub|2yeay, it works13:07
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claudiub|2so, i've rebased the patches again13:08
claudiub|2Roland knows about them, he mentioned them in last week's meeting too13:08
sagar_nikamclaudiub: i saw your mail to monasca team13:08
sagar_nikami think Roland is on vacation for some days13:08
claudiub|2and he said that he's going to take a look at them, and push the other cores towards reviewing them as well13:08
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claudiub|2yeah, I guess it is to be expected, as it is summer. :)13:09
claudiub|2anyways, I am actually wondering13:09
sagar_nikambased on your mail which you send today to monasca core reviewers.. i expect the reviews to start soon13:09
claudiub|2from what I can see, at least on devstack, monasca uses a virtual env13:09
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claudiub|2maybe you can still use newton monasca in mitaka13:09
claudiub|2sagar_nikam: can you folks give it a try?13:10
sagar_nikamclaudiub: we can try... but i think in last IRC you mentioned it may not be possible13:10
sagar_nikamtoo many code changes13:10
claudiub|2as far as I know, it pretty much depends only on keystone13:10
sagar_nikamis what you mentioned last week13:10
claudiub|2sagar_nikam: yeah, cherry-picking it might be impossible, but I meant to just take the whole newton branch of monasca13:11
lpetruthey guys13:11
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claudiub|2and just monasca13:11
sagar_nikamyou mean copy paste the code ?13:11
sagar_nikamwhich code.. only hyperv ?13:12
sagar_nikamor all  monasca ?13:12
claudiub|2just clone monasca-agent and install it on windows / hyper-v nodes13:12
sagar_nikamok13:12
claudiub|2sagar_nikam: I assume you already have monasca runnng in your env, right?13:12
sagar_nikamclaudiub: yes we have13:13
sagar_nikammonasca in our ev13:13
sagar_nikamenv13:13
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sagar_nikamso this is what needs to be done... correct it some steps are incorrect13:13
sagar_nikamcreate a mitaka controller where monasca is also available13:13
claudiub|2yeah. I think it's worth a try, to clone the monasca-agent on a windows node, get the patches that are on review, and give it a try13:13
sagar_nikamthen add hyperv host with nova and neutron13:13
claudiub|2sagar_nikam: yep13:14
sagar_nikamon the same host, git clone monasca-agent and run setup.py13:14
sagar_nikamit will install monasca-agent13:14
sagar_nikamand now start the agent13:14
sagar_nikamare these steps correct ?13:14
claudiub|2yeah, don't forget the patches that I've sent.13:14
claudiub|2otherwise the agent won't start13:14
sagar_nikamok13:14
sagar_nikamand what about the conf file13:15
sagar_nikamdo you have any conf file for monasca on hyperv13:15
sagar_nikam?13:15
claudiub|2just a sec13:15
claudiub|2this is the conf i'm currently using:13:16
claudiub|2#link monasca-agent.conf http://paste.openstack.org/show/559024/13:16
sagar_nikamok let me try13:17
claudiub|2also, regarding on how monasca-agent works: you will have to have a check.d folder, in the same folder as your monasca-agent.conf file13:18
claudiub|2in it, you'll have the conf files for each checker you want to run13:18
sagar_nikami was told earlier by somebody who had worked on monasca,, that the monasca-agent will not start on windows... i think your patches fix it... am i right ?13:18
claudiub|2sagar_nikam: yep. it isn't starting because monasca-agent tries to hook an event listener for a linux specific signal13:18
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sagar_nikamand your code fixed it by .... making it windows specific if running on windows ?13:19
claudiub|2anyways, I think it would be better to take a look at the monasca conf files you have in your monasca controller in your env13:19
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claudiub|2it should also have the checker.d files you'll need13:20
sagar_nikamok13:20
sagar_nikamlet me try13:20
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claudiub|2sagar_nikam: one of the patches i've submitted just skips setting that event listener on windows13:20
claudiub|2that patch has 2x +2s13:21
sagar_nikamwhat about package compilation in windows... running setup.py.. does it work cleanly... all dependent packaes get compiled in windows ?13:21
claudiub|2actually not sure about that. but at least most of the packages you should have already, if you have nova / neutron running on that node13:22
sagar_nikamok ... good... then we are fine13:22
claudiub|2let me know if there's an issue regarding setup13:22
sagar_nikamsince we are able to get nova and neutron compiled in windows13:23
sagar_nikamone more question13:23
sagar_nikam2 +2s is on only 1 patch or more patches ?13:23
claudiub|2only on 1 patch13:23
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claudiub|2k, moving on13:24
claudiub|2#topic neutron port migration13:25
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claudiub|2sagar_nikam: soo, any news about this?13:25
claudiub|2did you folks get to test if this works?13:25
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claudiub|2so, i take it as no news13:29
claudiub|2anyways, if it doesn't work, I think it would be worth a try cold migration too13:30
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claudiub|2well, I don't have any other comments for now13:32
claudiub|2#topic open discussion13:32
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claudiub|2will close the meeting if there's nothing else to be discussed13:32
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sagar_nikamhi13:35
claudiub|2hello13:36
claudiub|2you got disconnected. :)13:36
claudiub|2#undo13:36
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claudiub|2so, before you got disconnected, I asked this: neutron port migration: sagar_nikam: soo, any news about this? did you folks get to test if this works?13:37
sagar_nikamno problem13:37
sagar_nikamclaudiub|2 just sent a mail to sonu and vinod13:37
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sagar_nikamasking them about it13:38
sagar_nikamyou are in the mail13:38
claudiub|2oh, cool. :)13:38
claudiub|2and if it doesn't work, I think it would be worth a try cold migration too. maybe at least that works13:38
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sagar_nikamok13:39
sagar_nikamcan we try this in mitaka ?13:39
sagar_nikamwe dont have newton yet13:39
claudiub|2yeah, I think it's worth a try13:39
sagar_nikamok13:40
claudiub|2#topic open discussions13:40
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claudiub|2so, anything to add here?13:41
sagar_nikamno ... nothing as of now13:42
claudiub|2well, i think we can end it here for now13:42
claudiub|2if there are no more topics13:42
sagar_nikamyes .. sure13:44
sagar_nikamwe can close early13:44
claudiub|2well then, thanks for joining, see you next week! :)13:44
sagar_nikamthanks13:44
claudiub|2#endmeeting13:44
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rhochmuth#startmeeting monasca15:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 17 15:00:34 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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rhochmuthhi everyone15:01
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rhochmuthi'm out today, supposedely on vacation15:01
kamil_empty agenda today15:01
rhochmuthi didn't see any agenda items posted15:01
rhochmuthcorrect kamil_15:01
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rhochmuthdoes anyone have anything specific that they would like to discuss that isn't in the agenda15:02
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rhochmuthsince there isn't anything in the agenda, i guess that is a semi-redundant statement15:02
rhochmuthok, i'm going to end the meeting today early15:03
ibmkorhochmuth, if no agenda, I'd have one question which might actually better belong to a monasca mailing list but I would give it a shot here :)15:03
rhochmuthibmko: please proceed15:03
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ibmkoI am now playing around with monasca alarms and it seems that monasca-thresh is able to dynamically create alarms from alarm definitions but is not able to delete them (like for example when new Nova Instance is created and then deleted)15:05
rhochmuthcorrect15:05
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rhochmuththere have been some external cleanup scripts that have been written to address this15:07
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rhochmuthbut it is not part of the monasca service right now15:07
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ibmkoI guess I understand why - there is no way for monasca thresh to know, whether the situation is that agent is unable to send metrics or the monitored object has been removed15:07
rhochmuthcorrect15:07
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rhochmuthwe had an effort underway to add events to monasca15:07
rhochmuththe events would receive the openstack notifications15:07
rhochmuthsuch as VM lifecycle events15:07
ibmkoso the alarm ends up in undertermined, so would the correct approach be for Nova instances to implement this clean up in monasca agent - the libvirt plugin ?15:07
rhochmuthbut the events work isn't done/started15:07
rhochmuthlike i said, we've written scripts to do this15:07
rhochmuthexternally15:07
rhochmuthwe don't do it in the agent, as the agent's job is to send metrics15:07
rhochmuthrbak: is your cleanup script in your puppet repo?15:08
ibmkodid you also manage to guarantee that you wipe the alarm before it actually changes to Undetermined state (and sends notification to Operators :) )15:08
rbakI believe so15:08
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ibmkocould you point me to your implementation of the clean up ?15:09
rbakI'm looking now to see if we've made that public.  If not I'll see about getting that done.15:10
rhochmuththx rbak15:10
ibmkothanks15:10
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rhochmuthour script isn't in monasca, it is part of our helion openstack distribution15:10
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ibmkorhochmuth, is it a standalone poller, or part of something bigger ?15:11
shinya_kwbto/15:11
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rhochmuthit is a script that runs as a cron job15:11
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ibmkook, right15:11
rbakIt looks like I was wrong, this isn't in our puppet repo.  Ask again next week and I'll try to have it up by then to share.15:11
ibmkorbak, will do, thanks15:12
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rhochmuthit polls the monasca api and nova api to determine the VMs that have been destroyed15:12
ibmkorhochmuth, what about the guarantees I mentioned above ?15:12
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rhochmuthi don't think that is guaranteed15:14
rhochmuthi'll have to check again15:14
rhochmuthmy memory isn't working this morning15:14
ibmko:) thanks, It was already helpful a lot15:15
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rhochmuthyour welcome ibmko_15:15
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rhochmuthso, are there any other topics15:16
kamil_Does anybody know, if there is a result of the "voting for presentations" of the summit in Barcelona?15:16
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rhochmuthkamil_: i haven't heard anything15:16
sloganI think the voting ends at the end of the month15:16
sloganI *think*15:16
rhochmuthvoting was done last week15:17
sloganOr the decisions are announced15:17
rhochmuthso, i think the committees are putting the final agenda together15:17
kamil_okay... thought i missed something. Thanks.15:17
rhochmuthfrom past experience, i think it usually takes around two weeks after the voting has completed to post the acceptances15:18
rhochmuthso, i would guess in about another week15:18
rhochmuthbut, i don't have any insight or dates15:19
rhochmuthcould be sooner or later15:19
rhochmuthok, i'm going to end the meeting today, unless there are more topics15:20
slogan+115:21
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rhochmuthok, thanks everyone for attending15:21
sloganhave a great one15:21
kamil_thank you15:21
rhochmuthit is that time of year when vacations and time off is occurring15:21
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rhochmuthsee you all next week15:22
kamil_bye15:22
rhochmuth#endmeeting15:22
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eglute#startmeeting defcore16:00
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eglute#chair markvoelker hogepodge16:00
openstackCurrent chairs: eglute hogepodge markvoelker16:00
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eglute#topic agenda16:00
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eglute#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreLunar.1416:00
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eglutehello everyone, please review agenda and add things as needed16:01
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eglute#topic Finalize items for August 23rd Board Meeting16:01
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eglutenext Tuesday is board meeting, and there are several items that will require board's approval16:02
VanLo/16:02
markvoelkerThe first item here is the 2016.08 Guideline draft16:02
egluteif there is something missing from that list, let us know!16:02
eglute#topic 2016.08 Guideline16:02
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markvoelker#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351339/ 2016.08 draft16:02
eglutehogepodge question: will 2016.08 use 1.6 schema?16:02
hogepodgeeglute: I hope so, it's not a major update, rather fixes and prevents some errors and ambiguities that slipped through with 1.516:03
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markvoelker++, it's a fairly simple change and hogepodge already has a patch up that depends on mine to do it.16:03
eglutesounds good16:04
eglutethank you hogepodge and markvoelker16:04
hogepodgeeglute: the main 2016.08 is the heart of the update that the board needs to see, the 1.6 schema update is administrative16:04
markvoelkerSpeaking of which16:04
topolo/16:04
markvoelkerTypically what we do is go ahead and merge a patch that creates the json file, then prepare another change that simply changes it from "draft" to "approved" which we land after the Board votes16:04
hogepodgemarkvoelker: we will also want to mark the 2015.07 guideline as "superceded"16:04
markvoelkerSo if folks can take one more look over 351339 we can go ahead and land it (and hogepodge's patch too)16:05
egluteright, i think the board needs to approve both schema changes and the guideline16:05
markvoelkerhogepodge: yup, right16:05
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markvoelkereglute: Per last Board meeting, I think the Board probably considers the schema change "nonsubstantive" and therefore something they'd like to be informed of but don't need to approve before we start using it.16:06
hpe-hjGreetings, as a quick intro this is Hank Janssen from HPE. I am mostly in a lurker status till I understand things better :)16:06
markvoelkerE.g. it doesn't change what's required of anyone, just how we format the Guideline.16:06
eglutewelcome hpe-hj!16:06
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eglutemarkvoelker right, i think we can get everything approved at once16:07
markvoelker++16:07
Rockyg++16:07
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markvoelkerOk, so does anyone have any last items to fix in 351339, or should we go ahead and land it?16:07
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markvoelker(we can still iterate in subsequent patches until we put it into the Board packet)16:07
shamailLGTM personally16:08
eglute+216:08
Rockygland it!16:08
catherine_d|1+1  I just reveiw again16:08
VanL+116:08
eglutethank you catherine_d|1, appreciate it!!16:08
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* markvoelker looks to eglute and hogepodge to merge it since he submitted it16:08
eglutedone!16:09
eglute#topic gate jobs and schema16:09
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eglute#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351363/16:09
hogepodgeI believe that this guideline hits the major points of what core interoperable OpenStack is, and represents years of work by the members of this working group. Thanks to everyone who got us here, especially VanL and catherine_d|1 who have been here since day 1, zehicle for running the committee at the beginning, and markvoelker and eglute for guiding it over the last year.16:10
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Rockyg++16:11
eglutehogepodge thank you!!! it has been incredible watching this group grow and mature16:11
shamail++16:11
egluteand getting to work with everyone!16:11
gema+216:11
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VanLThanks hogepodge. You neglected to mention yourself and all your work16:12
catherine_d|1hogepodge: yea it has been a long time ... I am glad we reach this state16:12
catherine_d|1VanL: ++16:12
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* markvoelker is happy too, but will be happier when he can merge the change marking it approved =)16:12
gemasorry I went for coffee and this sounds like someone is leaving, noone is leaving, right?16:12
gemawe are just a happy bunch today :D16:12
RockygNope  Just high fives all 'round16:13
gemathen I Am happy to for that big milestone :D16:13
hogepodgegema: no one is leaving :-D16:13
eglute#topic high5s!16:13
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hogepodgeI forgot to mention Rockyg too for all her work in the early process16:13
gema+!16:13
gema+116:13
eglutethanks everyone :D16:13
shamaillol ^516:13
egluteok... back to schema?16:14
eglute#topic 1.6 schema16:14
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Rockygkewl.  Thanks eglute for putting that in the minutes16:14
eglute#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351363/16:14
markvoelkereglute: I'm already +2 on this one so basically I think as long as Jenkins still reports it's clean after the other merge is complete we're good to go.16:15
egluteRockyg i do what i can!16:15
markvoelker(assuming no one else finds fault with it)16:15
eglutemarkvoelker i bet jenkins wont be happy since the other 2016.08.json was merged16:15
eglutebut i can move it forward16:15
egluteany comments on the new schema?16:16
catherine_d|1RefStack has merged a patch to support 1.6 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356154/16:16
eglutethank you catherine_d|1!16:16
catherine_d|1+1 for this patch from RefStack16:16
egluteand Jenkins reported back :) so when it is fixed, we will merge it16:17
hogepodgeI'll try to rebase right now16:17
* hogepodge wonders if openstack git/gerrit is slow for everyone or just me16:17
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* catherine_d|1 it is slow16:17
egluteinternet is slow for me today in general.16:18
gemainfra have broken clouds before and they will break them again (reading twitter feeds from monty)16:18
eglutethanks hogepodge, when you rebase, we will move it forward. please change 2016.08.json to indicate new schema as well :)16:18
VanLgema: Context?16:19
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gemagit gerrit being slow16:20
eglute#topic multiple credentials tests16:20
gemaI was trying to find a reason16:20
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eglute#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/338609/16:20
markvoelkereglute: just saw you +2'd this one this morning.  Two +2's, so I think it's ready to go.16:20
egluteyup, unless there are any final comments16:20
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eglutesilence is agreement :)16:21
eglutedone.16:21
eglutethanks!16:21
eglute#topic Interoperability Issues Report16:22
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eglute#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/354528/16:22
eglutewow, thanks markvoelker for writing it up16:22
* shamail has not had a chance to review the report yet16:22
egluteif you have not had a chance yet, please review it. it is really good.16:22
gemait is amazing and very comprehensive16:22
shamailNice!16:23
markvoelkerLots of comments on this one over the past week...I think I responded to the majority of the feedback and made adjustments accordingly.  If I missed something, feel free to shout (through gerrit please)16:23
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eglutemarkvoelker i will do another read later today16:24
markvoelkerI guess we need to decide if we want to try to land this in time for the Board meeting next week....16:24
markvoelkerI don't think there's any particular rush, but based on the feedback so far it sort of feels like we're actually pretty close.16:24
eglutei presume we want to present it at the board meeting, correct?16:24
gemathat was the original idea16:25
egluteperhaps AlanClark is around? I will check with him if it is worth saving it for the joint board + TC meeting16:25
hogepodgeI'm for leaving discussion open for the next few days, and merging on Friday if there are no show stoppers16:25
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shamailI think it would make a good topic for the meeting16:25
markvoelkerJust so folks are aware on BoD meeting schedules:16:26
markvoelkerThe next BoD meeting is next week and we need to land it soonish if we want the board to have a chance to read it prior to the meeting.16:26
* hogepodge notes he'll be leaving on vacation tomorrow, so it's all kind of the same to him until Tuesday anyway16:26
shamailThat's a better idea eglute. :)16:26
markvoelkerIf we don't want to go for this meeting, the next one is Barcelona16:26
egluteright, and the Barcelona meeting is joint with TC16:26
hogepodgeso land Thursday after reviews and edits today?16:26
egluteor part of it is16:26
catherine_d|1hogepodge: pls do not fix the conflict for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351363/ yet ...RefStack merged the 1.6 patch but the website has not updated.... I will let you know when it does16:26
RockygHow about if it's not 100%, we give them a draft of it?16:27
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egluteRockyg that works too. We can give them a preview :)16:27
Rockygsomething to chew on for the summit meeting16:27
shamailI'd like to suggest getting time with the board on 8/23 for guideline approval and then putting another topic in Barcelona for the TC/board meeting to cover the report.  Can you split agenda items and request time in both?16:28
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egluteok, so everyone please review the report if you haven't yet16:28
egluteshamail yes, so far defcore had time in all meetings that i remember requesting16:28
shamailGreat16:28
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egluteany other comments on the report?16:29
markvoelkerAlso, in case folks didn't notice: the links in Jenkins reports on the patch have rendered versions of the docs16:29
markvoelkerE.g. http://docs-draft.openstack.org/28/354528/10/check/gate-defcore-docs-ubuntu-xenial/d46227c//doc/build/html/periodic_reports/fall_2016.html16:29
markvoelkerSome folks may find those easier to read16:29
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egluteoh nice16:29
eglutei knew it was around, just have not looked16:30
eglutethanks markvoelker16:30
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eglutemarkvoelker16:30
eglutemarkvoelker if we are changing the name, should we change the name in this report as well?16:30
Rockygkewl.  Thanks!16:30
markvoelkereglute: I'm leaving it as-is until the Board actually votes on changing our name16:31
gemaI was told not to change the name on the spec until it is approved also :D16:31
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egluteworks for me!16:31
eglutethis brings us the next topic16:31
eglute#topic Docs changes16:32
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eglute#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327086/16:32
markvoelkerHmm...that last merge created a conflict.  I'll rebase it, looks trivial.16:32
gemamarkvoelker: you are missing the spec at least16:32
eglutethanks markvoelker for working on this.16:32
gemaI will add comment16:32
markvoelkergema: thanks16:33
eglutei think we need to increment the process doc name to 2016B16:33
markvoelkereglute: I didn't because 2016A is still status: Draft anyway16:33
egluteoh16:34
eglutedidnt realize that16:34
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markvoelker(see line 4)16:34
eglutein that case, it is already incremented16:34
egluteyeah16:34
egluteany other comments on the doc changes?16:35
eglute#topic v2.0 Guideline16:36
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eglute#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310621/16:36
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hogepodgeThis is very much a work in progress16:37
markvoelkerLooks like you had a chance to sync up with Andrey though?  Progress is good. =)16:37
hogepodgeI'm trying to capture the design decisions we made in SA, so I'm starting with a rough draft in RST form with rationale and use cases16:37
hogepodgeAlthough a WIP, comments on the work is welcome. I want to make sure we get it right since it will be a major version increase16:38
hogepodgeSo start with design, then implement a schema and sample migration to test against.16:38
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hogepodgeI won't have much to add before the next meeting, since I'll be out in the wilderness until Tuesday next week.16:39
eglutehogepodge thank you! and have fun16:40
gemayep, enjoy :D16:40
eglutei will try to review it before next meeting16:40
Rockygdefinitely, enjoy!16:41
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hogepodgeThat's all I have16:41
egluteanyone already had a chance to review WIP and have comments?16:41
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* markvoelker already left some comments16:42
eglutethanks markvoelker16:42
eglutenext topic?16:42
eglute#topic RefStack16:42
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eglutecatherine_d|1 all yours!16:42
eglute#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353903/16:42
catherine_d|1eglute: thx16:42
catherine_d|1Everyone please help to review this patch ...16:43
catherine_d|1The blueprint is based on hogepodge: 's requirement16:44
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eglutethanks catherine_d|1 i will review it later today16:45
catherine_d|1We are actually on hold and may not have enought time to deliver the vendor/product feature for newton16:45
hogepodgecatherine_d|1: based on our design discussions on the first day in SA16:45
gemawill do tomorrow16:45
RockygI'll do it today or tomorrow.16:46
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catherine_d|1Thank you everyone ...16:47
egluteanything else catherine_d|1?16:47
catherine_d|1that is it ...16:47
eglute#topic Tempest.conf documentation16:47
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eglutegema all yours!16:47
gemaso I am starting to run defcore tests on our new clouds and I have engineers asking me for the "right configuration" to run our tests16:48
gemafor example, yesterday I got a run back that had 40 tests (out of 99) executed16:48
gemaso I thought it is the perfect time for me to document how to write a good tempest.conf for defcore for my team and for everyone else16:48
hogepodgegema: can you create an etherpad to start building the document from? I can add a bunch of configuration items16:48
gemayep16:49
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gema#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/defcore-tempest-configuration16:49
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gemaif you put there what you have from the top of your head and catherine does the same16:49
gemaI will go through a few rounds of testing and get it documented16:49
gemathe question is, where does this document belong?16:50
gemain defcore or refstack?16:50
eglutegema can you send this to the mailing list as well? asking for collaboration?16:50
gemayep16:50
gemawill do16:50
egluteI think refstack?16:50
eglutethank you gema16:50
gemayw16:50
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gemathank you all for your help16:50
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eglutei am not opposed to having it in defcore, but i think refstack might be a better fit16:51
gemaok , I will coordinate with catherine_d|1 on where to put it then16:51
eglutecatherine_d|1 what do you think16:51
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RockygThe doc should get published, so where is th best plac for it to live once public?16:51
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eglutehogepodge markvoelker what do you think?16:52
luzC@Rockyg I think it can live on Refstack16:52
catherine_d|1I always have a mix feeling on tempest conf ... if it is in RefStack it should be a working tempest ... if it is in DefCore it is reference doc in my mind ...16:52
luzCbut it will be a good contribution to Tempest docs too16:53
gemaluzC: isn't that too specific to live in tempest?16:53
catherine_d|1a working tempest.conf means it will work for all cases ... and I am not sure that can be achieved16:53
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gemacatherine_d|1: agreed, some bits will be specific to each cloud16:53
egluteinterop for tempest should be a thing16:53
catherine_d|1and each clouds implementation16:54
gematrue, but we are documenting the things that are common16:54
gemaand very specific to tempest16:54
markvoelkerI'd suggest we just start compiling the info the wiki and we'll think through what/if we should publish it in a more formal format once we see what we've got.16:54
gematrying to lower the barrier to entry to run tempest16:54
eglutemarkvoelker that works for me16:54
gemafor an end user16:54
gemamarkvoelker: sounds good to me16:55
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eglutegema +1 on lowering the entry to run tempest. i think it is super important16:55
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eglutelast topic before we run out of time16:55
eglute#topic next week16:55
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eglutethere are some events next week that people might be attending16:55
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hogepodgeeglute: I don't feel strongly about where it lives, but having a reference to point users to is helpful16:55
catherine_d|1hogepodge: ++16:56
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eglutedoes anyone plan on NOT attending the meeting next week?16:56
markvoelkerI'll be at OpenStack East in Manhattan.  So, not wilderness exactly but wild lands to say the least.16:56
egluteif most people are here, it will meeting as usual16:56
hogepodgeI'll be available, but am ok with taking a break16:56
eglutemarkvoelker hehe, same email brought it to my attention16:56
egluteso break next week? or meeting?16:57
gemasummer break!16:57
luzC@gema +116:57
markvoelkerBreak is fine with me.  We'll have some folks away and most of what we're doing right now is iterating in gerrit.16:57
egluteok, summer break it is!16:57
gemathanks :D16:57
eglute#action eglute to cancel next week's meeting16:57
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RockygI'm at QSEast, too.16:58
eglute#action everyone review gerrit issues this week that are needed for next week, please!16:58
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eglutethanks everyone! see you all here in 2 weeks then!16:58
Rockygthanks16:58
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eglute#endmeeting16:59
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alaski@startmeeting nova_cells17:00
alaski#startmeeting nova_cells17:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells'17:00
dansmitho717:00
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melwitto/17:00
alaskiI'm planning for this to be just a quick update meeting17:00
mriedemo/17:00
alaski#topic Testing17:00
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alaskidansmith: what's the latest on grenade testing?17:01
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dansmithalaski: the latest is, we were testing really well,17:01
dansmithuntil we realized it broke everything17:01
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bauzas\o17:01
dansmithwell, actually, the grenade test is still in there17:01
dansmithbecause grenade only runs against a few things17:01
dansmiththe devstack one is ready to circle back17:01
alaskiso yeah, for those unaware dansmith got grenade testing cellsv2 migrations which broke cellsv1 and ironic17:02
dansmithwell, no17:02
dansmithmy grenade support broke ironic17:02
dansmithyour devstack patch broke cells and ironic :)17:02
bauzasoh fun17:02
alaskidansmith: fair :) it just wasn't exposed until the devstack work17:02
bauzashandy links for people wanting to get pop-corn ?17:03
dansmithalaski: I mean your devstack patch did it.. I don't actually use your devstack stuff in the grenade stuff17:03
dansmithfor reasons17:03
alaskiahh, that's right17:03
dansmiththis is the replacement devstack patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355602/17:04
alaskihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/356097/17:04
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alaskithere's like 6-7 patches now around this, I'd have to go searching for the links17:04
dansmiththat one doesn't fix anything broken,17:04
dansmithit just makes sure that users get a warning if they're on cellsv117:04
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dansmithbut my devstack patch works around that itself (kinda has to)17:05
alaskiyeah, I've just got it all grouped together in my head17:05
dansmithyeah17:05
dansmithhighly interdependent17:05
bauzascool for links17:05
alaskiis there anything outstanding at this point?17:05
dansmithno, just need to land what we have and get the gate to let us do that :)17:05
bauzasso tbc, the devstack patch was a canary one ?17:05
dansmithnp17:06
dansmithno17:06
dansmith355602 is the devstack support for cellsv2 setup,17:06
dansmithwhich replaces an earlier one that we have since reverted17:06
alaskithe devstack patch broke cellsv1 because the migration assumes that there are computes, which do not exist in a v1 parent cell17:06
bauzasoh I see17:07
dansmithyeah and same reason for ironic really17:07
dansmiththen there was another failure,17:07
alaskiyeah. that was a timing issue because the computes weren't up yet17:07
dansmithwhich was because of the way that command worked with multiple nodes17:07
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dansmithhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/355659/17:07
dansmithwhich landed this morning,17:07
dansmithand should be the last thing to unblock ironic17:07
bauzasso the solution is to skip the single command in case of cellsv1 ?17:07
alaskibauzas: yes17:07
dansmiththat's the cells solution, yeah17:08
bauzask17:08
bauzasooooh https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355659/1/nova/cmd/manage.py is terrible17:08
bauzass/terrible/awesome17:08
alaskithanks for handling all of that dansmith17:08
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bauzas('terrible' in the french meaning)17:09
alaski#topic Open reviews17:09
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bauzasbecause that 1:N relationship is so much fun17:09
alaskithere's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/330995/9 for instance groups17:09
alaskiand https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263927/62 for build request changes17:09
alaskithose two series need reviews17:09
alaskiany others?17:09
melwitthttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/326906/ Move cell message queue switching and add caching17:10
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alaskigreat17:10
alaski#topic Open discussion17:11
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alaskiat this point in the cycle I'm not sure how much value this meeting has except for pointing out reviews17:12
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alaskiwhich can be done in the -nova channel17:12
dansmithwoot17:12
mriedemalaski: are you waiting for more review before updating https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263927/62 ?17:12
alaskiis everyone good with going to bi-weekly for now?17:12
mriedem+1 to bi-weekly17:12
melwitt+117:12
bauzas+117:13
dansmithI'd be fine with octa-weekly, but sure17:13
alaskimriedem: that one's ready IMO. I haven't pinged you because of the novaclient stuff you're dealing with17:13
alaskidansmith: we'll start here and see :)17:13
mriedemalaski: ah ok17:13
dansmithfine, fine ;D17:13
alaski#info meeting are bi-weekly until it's time to prep for O17:13
mriedemif it makes you feel any better, we still have weekly nova/cinder meetings talking about a feature that's dead for newton :)17:14
mriedemso there are bigger wastes of time17:14
alaskiheh17:14
alaskithat's all I've got today17:14
alaskianyone have a thing?17:14
mriedemfind sdague17:14
mriedemhe's gone missing17:14
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mriedemfin17:14
dansmithmriedem: reportedly lunching presently17:15
mriedemdagnabbit17:15
alaskicase closed17:15
alaskithanks all17:15
alaski#endmeeting17:15
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'horizon'20:02
robcresswellSorry for the delay20:02
robcresswellAnyone around for meeting?20:02
bpokornyo/20:02
david-lyleo/20:02
ducttape_o/20:02
* david-lyle senses quick meeting20:03
tsufievo/20:03
robcresswellThe agenda is packed as usual20:03
robcresswell(its empty)20:03
robcresswellFeature freeze is a week tomorrow20:04
robcresswellThere are still a few patches outstanding around images and filtering20:04
robcresswellSo please review the priorities.20:04
robcresswellLink is in the Horizon room topic20:04
robcresswellAlso, please be sparing on new patch sets and rechecks. It's an uphill battle against the gate at this point, so we don't need to add ot the pile without reason.20:05
robcresswell#topic Open Discussion20:05
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ducttape_quota needs some love, brought it up in the channel.   I have become so desperate that I am doing work on it now.  likely for next release I guess20:06
david-lylesee robcresswell I told you it would work ;)20:06
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ducttape_I thought free software meant someone else does stuff for me, for free20:06
* david-lyle isn't really sophisticated enough to pull that off20:06
tsufievducttape_, added myself to reviewers, going to be there soon20:06
robcresswellducttape_: Yeah, I don't think we will many any serious headway there at this point20:06
robcresswellducttape_: I don't have any time to investigate myself at this point, but happy to fix bugs etc20:07
robcresswellI would propose any big rewrite as a focus for next cycle :)20:07
tsufievoh, quotas have plenty of them, robcresswell ;)20:07
ducttape_it is what it is.   have a tough time explaining to manager that I had quotas patch up for 6 months, and now are re-writing core parts of code20:07
ducttape_:'(20:07
robcresswellducttape_: Sorry :(20:07
ducttape_that's just how quota stuff is, it's not personal20:08
tsufievrobcresswell, anyways, it is better than rewriting horizon UT to work with Django 1.9 :)20:09
bpokornytsufiev: Is CORS working now on the master branch?20:09
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robcresswellI believe all the image upload patches are now up and in the gate...20:09
robcresswellor merged20:09
bpokornyI know there's still the json patch out there to make it work with the glance v2 patch.20:09
tsufievbpokorny, Angular Create Image feaure works if you enable CORS in Glance20:09
robcresswellI jsut marked the bp as completed20:09
tsufievah, yes, the Glance V2 compatibility patch is still there20:10
tsufievit has the big Glance V2 patch as a dependency20:10
robcresswelltsufiev: Which patch?20:10
ducttape_so client is talking to glance directly?20:10
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* tsufiev looking20:10
ducttape_might need deployment docs explaining topology requirements20:10
robcresswelltsufiev: Oh this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/35398720:10
bpokornyYeah, that one.20:10
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tsufievrobcresswell, exactly!20:11
robcresswellI hadnt realised it was chained. That damn UI.20:11
bpokornyI was just testing it out with the glance v2 patch.20:11
bpokornyLooks good so far.20:11
robcresswellI tested it, and it worked for me.20:11
robcresswell(hence the +2...)20:11
tsufievducttape_, we had a releasenotes for the CORS feature20:11
ducttape_thanks tsufiev20:11
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tsufievhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/230434/49/releasenotes/notes/bp-horizon-glance-large-image-upload-c987dc86bab38761.yaml20:11
tsufievand the Django feature is in gate queue20:12
bpokornyCool20:12
tsufievthe last one I am particularly happy about20:12
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tsufievthe work Ive been doing for more than a year :D20:13
robcresswellBetween glance v2, images panel and upload work, glance has had a lot of attention this cycle20:13
robcresswellWould really like to apply these new patterns to admin/project instances next.20:14
robcresswellThat and Identity seem like the most sensible places to improve the tables.20:14
TravT_tsufiev, thanks for all the diligence!20:14
robcresswellDoes anyone have anything else to discuss? Any roadblocks, or help needed on critical patches?20:15
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tsufievTravT_, had been taught it by old-school platformer games :)20:16
yohoffmanI've got a bunch of non-critical patches that could use some reviews? Small bug fixes that have been sitting for a while.20:16
yohoffmanhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:yh128t%2540att.com+status:open20:16
robcresswellyohoffman: I've been working my way through some of them today while waiting on the gate :)20:16
yohoffmanThanks. Nothing too crazy there, but some small features that enhance the user experience.20:17
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robcresswellyohoffman: Yeah, we need to figure out that vol_create work as thats a breaking issue in some deployments20:18
robcresswellAnd ideally I'd like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270182/ to merge before FF20:18
yohoffmanI'm trying to help it out20:18
yohoffmanHopefully I'm making progress rather than taking it backwards20:19
robcresswellhaha, thanks for helping out on that20:19
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robcresswelltsufiev: If you want to learn patience, you should try Dark Souls are some point... thats rewarding but frustrating game.20:20
robcresswellI think we can call the meeting there.20:20
robcresswellThanks everyone20:21
bpokornyThanks!20:21
tsufievrobcresswell, okay )20:21
robcresswell#endmeeting20:21
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