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| SridarK | Hi FWaaS folks | 04:00 |
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| njohnston | #startmeeting fwaas | 04:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 7 04:00:29 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is njohnston. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fwaas' | 04:00 |
| yushiro | Hi all | 04:00 |
| njohnston | #chair xgerman SridarK yushiro | 04:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: SridarK njohnston xgerman yushiro | 04:00 |
| xgerman | O/ | 04:00 |
| chandanc | Hello all | 04:00 |
| SarathMekala | Hi all | 04:00 |
| njohnston | Good day all! | 04:00 |
| SridarK | lets get started | 04:00 |
| SridarK | #topic FWaaS v2 | 04:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "FWaaS v2 (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:01 | |
| SridarK | firstly congrats and thanks to all for the super human effort over the last week to get things in | 04:01 |
| njohnston | +100, thanks and congratulations to all. | 04:01 |
| njohnston | We got more done than anyone thought we could! | 04:01 |
| SarathMekala | +1 | 04:01 |
| chandanc | yes it was a great team work :) | 04:01 |
| yushiro | yes, thanks !! | 04:02 |
| SridarK | IMHO, i think this was a great run for the team to get a lot of things done | 04:02 |
| SridarK | and some fantastic teamwork across multiple time zones | 04:02 |
| xgerman | +1 | 04:02 |
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| yushiro | yes :) thanks for your kindness. | 04:03 |
| SridarK | i think we pretty much have everything in, | 04:03 |
| SridarK | based on #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360207/ | 04:03 |
| SridarK | the post mortem doc - it seems we will not get an FFE to push the CLI in | 04:03 |
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| chandanc | oh | 04:04 |
| SridarK | i think that is fine, we still have some drawing board discussions - as in the email we have going with the FWaaS folks | 04:04 |
| SridarK | yushiro: i know u have been pushing real hard on this | 04:04 |
| njohnston | It is sad, but at least with the policy.json changes that just merged we will have the ability to give instructions using API interactions instead of CLI interactions, at least | 04:05 |
| SridarK | +1 | 04:05 |
| yushiro | SridarK: Yes with Akihiro. | 04:05 |
| xgerman | Nice! | 04:05 |
| njohnston | And I am sure that if we keep the good work up there will be a python-neutronclient with the fwaas changes coming out soon | 04:05 |
| SridarK | yushiro: i think u can continue to address the review comments and u can merge it in very soon into O-1 | 04:05 |
| SridarK | yushiro: also over the next few days if something were to change - we will take that | 04:06 |
| yushiro | SridarK: Yeah. I hope so. Also I'll try to docs after. | 04:06 |
| SridarK | i think we have enough in for folks to use with the REST i/f as njohnston mentions above | 04:07 |
| njohnston | yushiro: I have an update to documentation that I have started, if anyone wants to contribute please do: https://review.openstack.org/366331 | 04:07 |
| SridarK | njohnston: +1 | 04:07 |
| njohnston | This is based on a conversation I had with Sam-I-Am today: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-doc/%23openstack-doc.2016-09-06.log.html#t2016-09-06T17:04:02 | 04:07 |
| yushiro | njohnston: great. | 04:08 |
| chandanc | njohnston, sure | 04:08 |
| SridarK | so lets all chip in on the doc front | 04:08 |
| SridarK | both in terms of content and reviews | 04:08 |
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| SridarK | the other thing for us this week - would be to continue with the testing | 04:08 |
| njohnston | +1 | 04:09 |
| SridarK | as we find issues - lets look at the seriousness of the issue and look for a solution - we should make sure that we follow due process | 04:09 |
| njohnston | I haven't seen anyone else using the policy.d framework that we just shifted to use, so it'd be good to make sure it actually works. | 04:09 |
| SridarK | and get critical fixes in and let the not so crtitical or cosmetic issues slide on to O | 04:10 |
| SridarK | njohnston: +1 | 04:10 |
| SridarK | yes we do need to ensure that it is good, first order of business for us | 04:10 |
| yushiro | njohnston: exactly. we need to make sure. | 04:11 |
| SridarK | ok we can all get some devstack deployments spinning | 04:11 |
| njohnston | It should be much easier now that all these things have merged - much less cherry-picking! | 04:12 |
| SridarK | i think with that and the documentation - we should be wrapping up Newton | 04:12 |
| xgerman | +1 | 04:13 |
| SridarK | other things to discuss for Newton ? | 04:13 |
| njohnston | nope! | 04:14 |
| yushiro | OK. | 04:14 |
| SridarK | ok lets move on | 04:14 |
| SridarK | #topic FWaaS v2 Ocata | 04:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "FWaaS v2 Ocata (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:14 | |
| SridarK | njohnston: thx for capturing some of the things in flight for Ocata | 04:14 |
| njohnston | I put up a separate Etherpad where we can all share out Ocata thoughts: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fwaas-ocata | 04:15 |
| njohnston | Ocata is a short cycle, so we should try to be focused on our work and keep up the velocity we have maintained in the past few weeks | 04:15 |
| SarathMekala | njohnston, getting permission denied on the links | 04:15 |
| yushiro | njohnston: thanks! | 04:16 |
| njohnston | SarathMekala: That is odd, it's just the regular openstack etherpad... I don't thinkt here is any authentication for those | 04:16 |
| SridarK | lets review that and actually if we can target the remaining things and try to wrap up as much b4 the Summit that will be great | 04:16 |
| SridarK | SarathMekala: i am able to get on | 04:16 |
| yushiro | njohnston: documentation for CLI usage is necessary. Can I add for it ? | 04:16 |
| padkrish | njohnston# Should we be targetting versioned objects as well? | 04:17 |
| njohnston | yushiro: Please do! | 04:17 |
| SridarK | chandanc: & SarathMekala: as soon as Newton ends can u push for reviews on the neutron changes for iptables | 04:17 |
| SarathMekala | sorry my bad.. its working.. the links have a trailing ')' | 04:17 |
| njohnston | padkrish: Yes, I think we should | 04:17 |
| SridarK | padkrish: i believe so too | 04:17 |
| chandanc | yes will do | 04:17 |
| padkrish | ok, will add it to etherpad | 04:17 |
| yushiro | done | 04:17 |
| njohnston | great! | 04:18 |
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| SridarK | ok i think we are in agreement here that we will focus on the dependencies and other things we need to wrap up around L2 | 04:20 |
| njohnston | yes | 04:21 |
| SridarK | other things to discuss here ? | 04:21 |
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| SridarK | if there are no other topics, we can head to open discusion | 04:22 |
| amotoki | hi, I happened to find this meeting. | 04:22 |
| SridarK | amotoki: hi | 04:22 |
| yushiro | welcome! | 04:22 |
| amotoki | do you have a plan to implement FWaaS v2 horizon support in Ocata? | 04:22 |
| SridarK | amotoki: yes | 04:22 |
| SridarK | we will need to find a volunteer | 04:22 |
| amotoki | horizon team needs to deprecate fwaas v1 panel at some time officially. | 04:23 |
| SridarK | amotoki: but yes that is the plan | 04:23 |
| SridarK | amotoki: ah ok - this should be in Ocata ? | 04:23 |
| amotoki | it is not a requirement | 04:23 |
| SridarK | amotoki: is it possible that this can wait till we deprecate fwaas v1 | 04:24 |
| njohnston | amotoki: We are still supporting FWaaS v1 at this time | 04:24 |
| amotoki | I think it should be doen once FWaaS v2 API becomes stable or mature. | 04:24 |
| njohnston | +1 | 04:24 |
| SridarK | amotoki: ok that makes sense | 04:24 |
| yushiro | :) | 04:24 |
| amotoki | njohnston: fwaas v1 API is marked as deprecated in liberty release notes. | 04:24 |
| amotoki | njohnston: I know we are still supporting it though. | 04:25 |
| SridarK | amotoki: it seems there are still some users, so we should let v2 mature | 04:25 |
| amotoki | totally agree | 04:25 |
| padkrish | but there's no option now, it has to be V1 :) | 04:26 |
| SridarK | amotoki: ok we will look into seeing who can volunteer for the Horizon work for fwaasv2, i will also talk to robcresswell | 04:27 |
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| amotoki | SridarK: i chatted this topic with rob a few days ago. | 04:28 |
| SridarK | amotoki: also thx for helping with reviews on the fwaas v2 CLI | 04:28 |
| amotoki | SridarK: this leads to my question above. | 04:28 |
| SridarK | amotoki: ok | 04:28 |
| SarathMekala | hi SridarK: I can give it a shot | 04:28 |
| SridarK | SarathMekala: ok great | 04:28 |
| SarathMekala | I have done some dabbling with Django a while ago | 04:28 |
| amotoki | anyway let's share the plan if any udpate! | 04:28 |
| amotoki | *update | 04:28 |
| SridarK | amotoki: ok will do | 04:28 |
| amotoki | SridarK: thanks | 04:29 |
| SridarK | amotoki: do u see a lot more work on the CLI | 04:29 |
| SridarK | amotoki: thx for ur help and direction, it seems this may not get an FFE, so in that case we would like to get it in soon after Ocata opens | 04:30 |
| amotoki | SridarK: I think CLI support is almost good. some clean up are needed. | 04:30 |
| amotoki | SridarK: we can release the client once Ocata release window is open. | 04:31 |
| amotoki | SridarK: I think it is fine with FWaaS team. | 04:31 |
| SridarK | amotoki: ok great, i think we had some discussions on co-existence with fwaas v1 | 04:31 |
| SridarK | amotoki: ok thx, anyways yushiro is working closely with u | 04:31 |
| amotoki | SridarK: exactly | 04:32 |
| yushiro | yeahaaaad | 04:32 |
| yushiro | *yeah | 04:32 |
| SridarK | amotoki: any thing else u would like to discuss | 04:32 |
| amotoki | SridarK: none from me | 04:33 |
| SridarK | amotoki: thx for stopping by | 04:33 |
| SridarK | and we will update the Horizon plan | 04:33 |
| yushiro | Thanks amotoki. | 04:33 |
| SridarK | #topic Open Discussion | 04:33 |
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| SridarK | ok folks i think we have the important issues covered, we focus on testing/ critical bug fixing and Docs | 04:34 |
| yushiro | Yeah. | 04:34 |
| chandanc | I will be out of station for the next 2 days | 04:34 |
| SridarK | other things we would like to discuss | 04:34 |
| SridarK | chandanc: ok thx - u deserve a break | 04:35 |
| yushiro | SridarK: 1 thing | 04:35 |
| chandanc | :) | 04:35 |
| yushiro | How about OSC plugin for fwaas v1 ? I'd like to disscuss this priority. | 04:35 |
| yushiro | I think this priority is not so high and should be focus on debugging/testing. | 04:36 |
| SridarK | yushiro: i would agree with u | 04:36 |
| amotoki | I think it needs to be discussed with migration plan to v2 and neutron CLI deprecation plan. | 04:36 |
| SridarK | but soon after this next week or 2 - if it makes sense lets look into it | 04:36 |
| amotoki | even after neutron CLI is deprecated, it does not mean neutron CLI will go away soon. | 04:37 |
| SridarK | amotoki: ok so this can wait as we figure out the migration plan | 04:38 |
| njohnston | So I was wondering, who on the team is going to Barcelona? I am, with mfranc213. Who else? | 04:38 |
| yushiro | njohnston: Maybe I will ! | 04:38 |
| SridarK | I will make it | 04:39 |
| hoangcx | njohnston: I will be there too | 04:39 |
| padkrish | not sure about me, waiting for budget | 04:39 |
| SridarK | xgerman: said he may not be able to | 04:39 |
| SridarK | chandanc: , SarathMekala: ? | 04:39 |
| chandanc | Not sure as of now | 04:40 |
| chandanc | will update soon | 04:40 |
| SarathMekala | yep.. not clear as of now | 04:40 |
| njohnston | I will be glad to see everyone who can be there! Perhaps this time we can get a room to discuss things and work together. | 04:40 |
| SridarK | ok hope u guys can make it too | 04:40 |
| SridarK | njohnston: +1 | 04:40 |
| yushiro | njohnston++ | 04:40 |
| amotoki | as you may know, pike project team gathering will be held around Feb 20. | 04:41 |
| amotoki | http://www.openstack.org/ptg | 04:41 |
| hoangcx | njohnston: In Austin, We found a good place for discussion. But it would be better if we can get a room :-) | 04:41 |
| amotoki | note that ocata cycle will be shorted than usual. | 04:42 |
| amotoki | *shorter* | 04:42 |
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| yushiro | amotoki: OK thanks. I'll remember. | 04:43 |
| njohnston | Indeed. We will have to keep our disciplined approach to make sure we meet the expedited timetable for delivery of what we have targeted for that timeperiod. | 04:43 |
| SridarK | i am hoping we will be able to pick up the L2 pieces rather quickly | 04:43 |
| yushiro | SridarK: Yes. I'll work on it. | 04:44 |
| SridarK | njohnston: +1 | 04:44 |
| SridarK | yushiro: thx, we will need to get the neutron pieces reviewed first | 04:44 |
| yushiro | padkrish: thanks for your e-mail around L2 pieces. | 04:44 |
| padkrish | me too... | 04:44 |
| padkrish | need to finalize on the RPC part, will send a rough patch | 04:44 |
| SridarK | yushiro: padkrish: i think the pieces are quite well defined | 04:45 |
| padkrish | thanks njohnston for the pointer | 04:45 |
| yushiro | SridarK: I think so. padkrish and njohnston can clarify that. | 04:45 |
| SridarK | with the CLI in good shape, if we land the L2 pieces - we will have time to do more interop testing with Security Groups | 04:45 |
| chandanc | +1 | 04:46 |
| njohnston | We should also go through the spec and make sure we identify any other areas we need to implement in order to complete it | 04:47 |
| njohnston | for example, the spec says that we must allow multiple firewall group associations to a given port, but I think at the moment we only allow one | 04:47 |
| SridarK | njohnston: yes i think the pieces are quite relevant in the L2 context | 04:47 |
| padkrish | njohnston: +1 | 04:48 |
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| chandanc | njohnston, i agree | 04:48 |
| yushiro | njohnston: correct. We should support step by step. | 04:48 |
| SarathMekala | right. The current driver design supports multi-port association though | 04:49 |
| SridarK | njohnston: on that specific, we should be more comfortable on any ordering implications -there were some concerns there | 04:49 |
| SarathMekala | the behaviour is that the latest rule wins | 04:49 |
| SridarK | but yes we can validate that for sure | 04:49 |
| njohnston | SridarK: agreed | 04:49 |
| SridarK | also possibly a scrub thru the spec to see if some of the more esoteric features are needed | 04:50 |
| yushiro | It is better to summarize on etherpad or anywhere with current SPEC(we should support for Ocata) | 04:50 |
| yushiro | I'll consider about it. | 04:51 |
| SarathMekala | hi all.. while going though the spec I had some questions | 04:51 |
| SarathMekala | was waiting for the right time to ask :0 | 04:51 |
| SarathMekala | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w8JjOp_iu6Lwr59saDDyMHLbmY_r4g-gvsvE-R1xD_k/edit?usp=sharing | 04:51 |
| SarathMekala | can you take a look at this doc | 04:51 |
| njohnston | looking... | 04:52 |
| SarathMekala | go through it.. we can follow up on mail | 04:52 |
| SridarK | SarathMekala: thx, lets add this to the ocata etherpad | 04:52 |
| SarathMekala | sure.. will do that | 04:53 |
| njohnston | Well, we're almost out of time | 04:54 |
| SridarK | we could build a user story around some of these next level features - to validate complexity vs how useful | 04:54 |
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| SridarK | yes more offline discussions, after the next couple weeks | 04:55 |
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| SridarK | now we can stay on testing and doc | 04:55 |
| SridarK | over the last few weeks - it has been fantastic to work together as a team - even though we come from differing corporate affiliations | 04:56 |
| SridarK | never actually felt that | 04:56 |
| SridarK | so thx again for that | 04:57 |
| njohnston | I couldn't agree more. I am so proud to be a member of the FWaaS team! Thanks everyone! | 04:57 |
| SridarK | i hope we can continue to to work togther over Ocata as well | 04:57 |
| chandanc | Thanks to all :) | 04:57 |
| yushiro | Me too. Thanks for giving me this opportunity. | 04:57 |
| SarathMekala | +1 Great to be with this team | 04:57 |
| padkrish | +1 | 04:58 |
| SridarK | 2 min warning :-) | 04:58 |
| SridarK | all right we can connect up over on openstack-fwaas or email | 04:58 |
| njohnston | Anything else? | 04:58 |
| njohnston | sounds good | 04:58 |
| SridarK | nothing from me | 04:59 |
| yushiro | None for me | 04:59 |
| njohnston | #endmeeting | 04:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 7 04:59:15 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2016/fwaas.2016-09-07-04.00.html | 04:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2016/fwaas.2016-09-07-04.00.txt | 04:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2016/fwaas.2016-09-07-04.00.log.html | 04:59 |
| SridarK | Good Night /Good Day all | 04:59 |
| SridarK | bye | 04:59 |
| SarathMekala | bye all O/ | 04:59 |
| chandanc | bye all | 04:59 |
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| anil_rao | #startmeeting taas | 05:31 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 7 05:31:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anil_rao. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:31 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:31 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'taas' | 05:31 |
| soichi | hi | 05:31 |
| kaz | hi | 05:31 |
| anil_rao | Hi | 05:31 |
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| anil_rao | #topic Performance measurement (progress report) | 05:32 |
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| soichi | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/w/images/2/22/Increasing_Source_VMs-20160906.png | 05:33 |
| kaz | I uploaded a document about performance measurement last week. | 05:33 |
| kaz | I guess that it is the cause that the softirq is unbalanced to one physical cpu. | 05:33 |
| kaz | So we tried to balance softirq among cpus. | 05:34 |
| anil_rao | kaz: That is interesting to see. | 05:34 |
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| kaz | It seems that the values of received packets without mirror are increasing. | 05:35 |
| kaz | i guess because of softirq balancing. | 05:35 |
| anil_rao | Can you please clarify what do you mean by "when source VMs are increased" | 05:37 |
| kaz | please see the last weeks slide, page 1 | 05:38 |
| soichi | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/w/images/7/74/Increasing_Source_VMs-20160831.png | 05:38 |
| kaz | this means that the number of vms are increasing and the number of destination vm and monitor vm are fixed. | 05:39 |
| anil_rao | Thanks. | 05:39 |
| vnyyad | Kaz: so overall the total flows being monitored is increased | 05:40 |
| kaz | yes | 05:40 |
| anil_rao | So, if I am reading this right, when mirroring is enabled, we half the throughput of the receiving VM but send at the same rate to the monitor VM. | 05:40 |
| kaz | yes, i think so | 05:41 |
| vnyyad | anil_rao: looks like | 05:42 |
| soichi | last week, i got several valuable comments from anil | 05:44 |
| soichi | 1) it is better to measure in case of TCP | 05:44 |
| soichi | 2) it is better to use SIPP benchmark, too | 05:45 |
| anil_rao | soichi: I am not sure if those cases are better but they would serve to highlight other aspects. :-) | 05:46 |
| soichi | okay, i see | 05:46 |
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| anil_rao | kaz: I did not fully understand the last (2nd) bullet item below the graph in slide #4. | 05:48 |
| anil_rao | Compared to the results in last week's graph both cases (w and w/o mirroring) have improved after IRQ balancing. | 05:49 |
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| -soichi- anil_rao: Kaz says "peak" -> "peak out" | 05:53 | |
| anil_rao | Without mirroring, the receiving VM is getting between 200K and 250K pps. With mirroring it gets between 100K and 130K pps, but the monitor VM also receives at the same rate. | 05:55 |
| anil_rao | Both the receiving VM and the monitor VM are on the same host, so we are essentially dealing with the same volume of traffic, split between 2 VMs. | 05:56 |
| anil_rao | Shouldn't this be expected? | 05:56 |
| vnyyad | +1 | 05:57 |
| kaz | sorry, i don't know why, yet. | 05:58 |
| anil_rao | What IPerf is doing is maxing out the bandwidth (for any given packet size). So once we have reached that point, without miorroring and then turn on mirroring we can expect the performance to bve half. | 05:59 |
| soichi | +1 | 06:00 |
| anil_rao | It would be interesting to drive the receiving VM at say 100K pps without mirroring and then turn on mirroring. In that case we should expect no change in the performance of the receiving VM. | 06:00 |
| soichi | i think so, too | 06:01 |
| anil_rao | The receiving VM should continue to get 100K pps but the monitor VM should get the same rate too. | 06:01 |
| soichi | sure | 06:01 |
| kaz | I will try. | 06:02 |
| anil_rao | Thanks kaz. | 06:02 |
| vnyyad | thanks | 06:02 |
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| anil_rao | Looking at last week's result I see the same behavior there too. I.e. without IRQ balancing we were still seeing the case where when mirroring was turned on, the receiving VM + monitor VM was getting the same rate as just the receiving VM without mirroring. | 06:03 |
| anil_rao | IRQ blancing has definitely helped improve the overall host throughput. | 06:04 |
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| kaz | yes | 06:04 |
| vnyyad | yeah | 06:04 |
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| anil_rao | These are good results! | 06:05 |
| kaz | thank you | 06:05 |
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| anil_rao | To actually demonstrate the overhead of monitoring, it might be better to not saturate the system's bandwidth limit. I.e. we keep enough room for the extra volume generated from mirroring. This way we should be able to show that mirroring doesn't affect the receiving VM (or at least that is the goal) | 06:06 |
| reedip | hi | 06:06 |
| anil_rao | reedip: Hi | 06:07 |
| soichi | reedip: hi | 06:07 |
| reedip | sorry, was late, reading up the logs | 06:07 |
| soichi | anil_rao: agree | 06:08 |
| kaz | anil_rao: +1 | 06:08 |
| anil_rao | Here is a proposal for the test. | 06:09 |
| anil_rao | Compute highest throughput for the receiving VM. | 06:09 |
| anil_rao | Send at less than half that rate to the receiving VM (for multiple source VMs) | 06:10 |
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| anil_rao | Enable mirroring. | 06:10 |
| anil_rao | See the diffrence in the rate at the receiving VM and the monitor VM. | 06:10 |
| anil_rao | Expected result: No change to receiving VM. Same rate at monitor VM. | 06:11 |
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| anil_rao | In reality there might be a little difference and we should report that. | 06:11 |
| kaz | OK, i will try that. | 06:12 |
| anil_rao | Thanks kaz. I look forward to the results. | 06:12 |
| soichi | i guess we can see increse of CPU usage on the host | 06:12 |
| soichi | after enable mirroring | 06:13 |
| anil_rao | soichi: Yes. That would be nice to measure. | 06:13 |
| kaz | soichi: I think so | 06:13 |
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| anil_rao | If we don't hit 100% we get the true overhead, otherwise the overhead is clipped and we don't get a worthwhile result. | 06:14 |
| soichi | +1 | 06:14 |
| kaz | I agree | 06:14 |
| anil_rao | If folks are interested, we can discuss the TaaS bug related to ingress side mirroring. | 06:15 |
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| kaz | sure | 06:15 |
| vnyyad | ani_rao: +1 | 06:15 |
| soichi | +1 | 06:15 |
| anil_rao | #topic Open Discussion | 06:15 |
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| anil_rao | I had send out a mail to the Neutron mailing list with a detailed description of the problem, root-cause and a proposal to move forward. | 06:16 |
| anil_rao | In summary, given the way OVS treats VLAN tagged ports on a host, we don't have any options left for solutions completely within the scope of TaaS. | 06:17 |
| anil_rao | We will need the core Neutron OVS driver to explicitly tag VLAN ids for packets coming in to br-int from the 'instance' ports. | 06:18 |
| soichi | +1 | 06:18 |
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| anil_rao | I am prototying this solution and will report back to the mailing list when I have a working version. | 06:18 |
| vnyyad | anil_rao: Can we handle this specific case by not forwarding the mirrored traffic to the br-tap but handle it in br-int | 06:18 |
| vnyyad | it will be a crude solution but might work | 06:19 |
| anil_rao | vnyyad: We cannot avoid forwarding to br-tap because the mirror destination may be on a different host. | 06:20 |
| anil_rao | Here is the basic problem. | 06:20 |
| vnyyad | hmmm... yes true realized it... | 06:20 |
| anil_rao | OVS does not tag packets flowing within the same host's br-int. | 06:20 |
| anil_rao | Neutron specifies that port MACs are unique only within a network. | 06:21 |
| anil_rao | This means that it is (technically) possible to two ports on differnet networks but on the same host to have the same MAC. | 06:21 |
| vnyyad | yes | 06:21 |
| anil_rao | If these two networks belong to different tenants, TaaS would have really broken tenant isolation because we would leak traffic of one tenant to another. | 06:22 |
| soichi | yes | 06:22 |
| kaz | +1 | 06:22 |
| vnyyad | yes... a thin chance of happening but nevertheless can happen | 06:22 |
| anil_rao | vnyyad: Yes. :-( | 06:23 |
| anil_rao | My prototype involves having the Neutron driver explictly add a vlan tag (corresponding to the port) for all packets coming in via that port. After that TaaS works without any modification. | 06:24 |
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| soichi | +1 | 06:24 |
| anil_rao | This way out currently solution for broadcast/multicast ingress traffic also works as is. | 06:25 |
| anil_rao | out --> our | 06:25 |
| vnyyad | any rational why they dont tag, may be its an optimization | 06:25 |
| soichi | it soudns good | 06:25 |
| vnyyad | but this solution should be good to have | 06:25 |
| soichi | i have another topic | 06:26 |
| anil_rao | When OVS works in normal mode they operate as a legacy switch and just keep track of ports and tags internally without having to actually tag packets. | 06:26 |
| anil_rao | Neutron has also set br-int in legacy (or normal) mode for its typical operation. So everything seemed good until now. | 06:27 |
| vnyyad | ok | 06:27 |
| anil_rao | We are the first applciation that is trying to detect packets ingressing a VM's vNIC in br-int. However, I am sure there will be others soon. | 06:27 |
| vnyyad | for sure | 06:27 |
| soichi | anil_rao: would you please submit to the vBrownBag Tech Talks at Barcelona Summit? Submission deadline: Sep. 15th | 06:28 |
| anil_rao | Looks like we are running out of time. Any other topics | 06:28 |
| soichi | in my understand, speaksers will be anil, kaz, and reedip (3 min. each?) | 06:28 |
| anil_rao | soichi: I will do that tomorrow morning. | 06:28 |
| soichi | okay, thank you | 06:29 |
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| anil_rao | We'll continue the discussion next week. | 06:30 |
| soichi | bye | 06:30 |
| kaz | bye | 06:30 |
| anil_rao | #endmeeting | 06:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 06:30 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 7 06:30:43 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 06:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-09-07-05.31.html | 06:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-09-07-05.31.txt | 06:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-09-07-05.31.log.html | 06:30 |
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| vnyyad | bye all | 06:31 |
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| claudiub|2 | #startmeeting hyper-v | 13:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 7 13:01:14 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is claudiub|2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:01 | |
| atuvenie | hi all | 13:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 13:01 |
| claudiub|2 | helloo | 13:01 |
| abalutoiu_ | hi | 13:01 |
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| sagar_nikam | Hi | 13:02 |
| claudiub|2 | helloo. :) | 13:02 |
| sagar_nikam | bit late today | 13:02 |
| sagar_nikam | have we started | 13:02 |
| claudiub|2 | yeah, the meeting started. was waiting for more people to join | 13:03 |
| claudiub|2 | any idea if anyone else is joining? | 13:03 |
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| sagar_nikam | sonu is joining | 13:03 |
| sagar_nikam | he mentioned that today | 13:04 |
| sagar_nikam | we can start | 13:04 |
| claudiub|2 | cool | 13:04 |
| claudiub|2 | #topic monasca status | 13:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "monasca status (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:04 | |
| claudiub|2 | soo, tomorrow I have a skype meeting set up with Roland regading it | 13:05 |
| sagar_nikam | nice | 13:05 |
| claudiub|2 | so, yeah, waiting for tomorrow | 13:05 |
| sagar_nikam | what time is it ? | 13:05 |
| claudiub|2 | it is sometime in the evening | 13:05 |
| sagar_nikam | your evening ? | 13:06 |
| claudiub|2 | yeah. 10 pm my local time. | 13:06 |
| sagar_nikam | ok.. its too late for me | 13:06 |
| sagar_nikam | i may not be able to join | 13:06 |
| claudiub|2 | so, they've been setting up a hyper-v node for testing | 13:06 |
| sagar_nikam | its past mid niht for me | 13:07 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:07 |
| claudiub|2 | they want to see with their own eyes that it works | 13:07 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:07 |
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| sagar_nikam | i saw your mail with the instructions | 13:07 |
| claudiub|2 | yeah. | 13:07 |
| sagar_nikam | did not see them reply back that they are tryin the install | 13:07 |
| claudiub|2 | other than that, just minor comments and reviews on the patches. | 13:07 |
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| claudiub|2 | #topic Hyper-V OVS vif plug driver | 13:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Hyper-V OVS vif plug driver (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:08 | |
| claudiub|2 | just a minor update | 13:08 |
| claudiub|2 | the os-vif patch merged. | 13:08 |
| sagar_nikam | the nova patch ... correct ? | 13:08 |
| claudiub|2 | #link os-vif patch: Adds Windows support for OvsPlugin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344433/ | 13:08 |
| claudiub|2 | just the os-vif patch. | 13:09 |
| claudiub|2 | the nova patch was frozen before the os-vif patch merged. | 13:09 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:09 |
| claudiub|2 | #topic Windows Containers status | 13:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Windows Containers status (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:09 | |
| claudiub|2 | atuvenie: helloo. :) | 13:09 |
| atuvenie | hello :) | 13:10 |
| atuvenie | so, the folks over at aprenda have a working branch, they plan to make a pull request | 13:10 |
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| atuvenie | I have to look over that and see how to integrate their work with our plans for using OVS | 13:11 |
| atuvenie | that's about it | 13:11 |
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| claudiub|2 | yeay, thanks for the news. :) | 13:12 |
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| sagar_nikam | are containers stable in windows ? | 13:13 |
| sagar_nikam | never tried that .... yet | 13:13 |
| claudiub|2 | atuvenie: ^ | 13:14 |
| atuvenie | sagar_nikam: well, for my purposes sure, I have not seen major changes between TP4 and TP5 | 13:15 |
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| sagar_nikam | atuvenie: thanks | 13:15 |
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| atuvenie | sagar_nikam: I do know there are plans to change the powershell cmdlets for working with containers to align with docker | 13:16 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:16 |
| claudiub|2 | moving on | 13:17 |
| sagar_nikam | once you have it all working... let us know... we will try and let you know how it all works | 13:17 |
| claudiub|2 | #topic Newton release status | 13:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Newton release status (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:17 | |
| claudiub|2 | soo, still testing. looks fine so far. | 13:17 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:18 |
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| claudiub|2 | we've added a checkbox in our Openstack Hyper-V Compute driver installer for enabling / disabling neutron security groups. | 13:18 |
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| sagar_nikam | why ? dont we want SGs by default ? | 13:19 |
| claudiub|2 | yes, by default, but it can be turned off, if someone doesn't want security groups anyways | 13:20 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:20 |
| claudiub|2 | we're also doing some performance tests and improvements. for the moment, there are ~10% smaller spawn times. | 13:20 |
| claudiub|2 | still in progress | 13:20 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:21 |
| claudiub|2 | #topic open discussion | 13:21 |
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| sagar_nikam | i was speaking to Sonu today. His team is planning for scale tests on Mitaka sometime | 13:22 |
| claudiub|2 | that's about it from my part. | 13:22 |
| claudiub|2 | sagar_nikam: any estimates on when that's going to happen? | 13:22 |
| sagar_nikam | we have done scale tests on liberty and found 2x scale improvement | 13:22 |
| sagar_nikam | as compared to Kilo | 13:22 |
| claudiub|2 | cool. :) | 13:23 |
| sagar_nikam | now we want to try Mitaka and compare with liberty | 13:23 |
| sagar_nikam | in Kilo we wen tto 1000 VMs | 13:23 |
| sagar_nikam | in liberty we went to 2000 VMs | 13:23 |
| claudiub|2 | yeah, mitaka should be even better, from what we've tested in the last cycle. | 13:23 |
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| sagar_nikam | if we had more hardware, i am pretty sure .. we would have gone further | 13:23 |
| claudiub|2 | i forgot what the improvement rate was from liberty to mitaka | 13:23 |
| sagar_nikam | claudiub|2: not sure.. depends on the slot which we get for scale hardware | 13:24 |
| sagar_nikam | liberty to mitaka... not yet done | 13:24 |
| sagar_nikam | that is the next plan | 13:24 |
| sagar_nikam | as and wehn we get a slot in the scale lab | 13:24 |
| sagar_nikam | but is planned | 13:25 |
| claudiub|2 | sagar_nikam: i see. well, let us know how it goes. :) | 13:25 |
| sagar_nikam | yes... we will let you know | 13:25 |
| sagar_nikam | and see if we can improve further | 13:25 |
| sagar_nikam | this time i am trying to get more hardware | 13:25 |
| sagar_nikam | so as to reach 4000 to 5000 VMs | 13:25 |
| sagar_nikam | not sure when it will happen | 13:26 |
| claudiub|2 | ooh, nice. :D | 13:26 |
| sagar_nikam | all depends on the scale lab agreeing to provide more hardware for hyperv | 13:26 |
| sagar_nikam | let us see how it goes... will keep you informed | 13:26 |
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| claudiub|2 | nice. :) any other news from your side? | 13:27 |
| sagar_nikam | i had a question | 13:27 |
| claudiub|2 | sure | 13:27 |
| sagar_nikam | i remember you or somebody from cloudbase had submitted a BP and patches for | 13:27 |
| sagar_nikam | GPU support | 13:27 |
| claudiub|2 | ah yes | 13:27 |
| sagar_nikam | to instances | 13:27 |
| claudiub|2 | RemoteFX | 13:27 |
| sagar_nikam | what happened to that | 13:28 |
| claudiub|2 | yep, that merged in Newton. :) | 13:28 |
| claudiub|2 | fully | 13:28 |
| sagar_nikam | yes RemoteFX | 13:28 |
| sagar_nikam | wow !!! cool | 13:28 |
| claudiub|2 | and it has been available in compute-hyperv since Kilo, i think | 13:28 |
| sagar_nikam | did you actually test with hardware which had GPU ? | 13:28 |
| claudiub|2 | yep, that's how we tested it | 13:28 |
| sagar_nikam | nvidia | 13:28 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:28 |
| claudiub|2 | yeah, not sure the exact model of the card | 13:29 |
| claudiub|2 | but worked fine | 13:29 |
| claudiub|2 | I've tested it for 2016 as well | 13:29 |
| sagar_nikam | i had a similar BP for VMWare some 3 releases back | 13:29 |
| claudiub|2 | and I even got to install steam + video games in a VM. :D | 13:29 |
| sagar_nikam | submitted multiple patches... never got merged as my code was not getting reviewed | 13:29 |
| claudiub|2 | I got to have fun with that blueprint. :D | 13:29 |
| claudiub|2 | i see | 13:30 |
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| sagar_nikam | claudiub|2: you have some write up or some docs on how to use nova hyperv driver for RemoteFX ? | 13:30 |
| claudiub|2 | #link Adds RemoteFX support to the Hyper-V Driver: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42529/ | 13:30 |
| claudiub|2 | I have a draft article about it | 13:30 |
| claudiub|2 | it should be published some time soon. | 13:30 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:31 |
| claudiub|2 | at the very least, you can read the nova release notes regarding RemoteFX: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42529/26/releasenotes/notes/bp-hyper-v-remotefx-1474ef1a082ad1b0.yaml | 13:31 |
| claudiub|2 | you'll have to have enable_remotefx = True in the nova.conf file though | 13:31 |
| claudiub|2 | you can read about it the release notes | 13:32 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:32 |
| sagar_nikam | this is in newton ? | 13:32 |
| claudiub|2 | yes | 13:32 |
| sagar_nikam | or mitaka | 13:32 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:32 |
| sagar_nikam | i will have to wait till newton to use it | 13:32 |
| claudiub|2 | but then again, the feature exists in compute-hyperv since kilo. :) | 13:32 |
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| claudiub|2 | anyways, I've only tested the feature with windows 10 VMs | 13:32 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:33 |
| sagar_nikam | i guess it should work with windows 7 as well | 13:33 |
| claudiub|2 | and I noticed that the guest OS must have support for RemoteFX, otherwise, its not useful to add a RemoteFX vGPU to the instance | 13:33 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:33 |
| sagar_nikam | can you share the doc when it is ready | 13:34 |
| sagar_nikam | we will try it as soon we move to newton | 13:34 |
| claudiub|2 | for example, windows 10 Pro didn't support RemoteFX, windows 10 Enterprise supports RemoteFX | 13:34 |
| sagar_nikam | also are the patches easily backportable to mitaka | 13:34 |
| sagar_nikam | i will try backport in our downstream repo | 13:35 |
| claudiub|2 | hm, I'd say for the most part, yes. | 13:35 |
| claudiub|2 | but there might be a few merge conflicts, especially in the tests | 13:36 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:36 |
| claudiub|2 | anything else? | 13:37 |
| sagar_nikam | not anything as of now | 13:37 |
| sagar_nikam | we will soon start moving fully to mitaka | 13:37 |
| sagar_nikam | and start the tests all over again | 13:37 |
| sagar_nikam | will keep you posted | 13:37 |
| claudiub|2 | sounds good. :) | 13:38 |
| sagar_nikam | i am done | 13:38 |
| claudiub|2 | also, let us know if you're going to test remote fx as well | 13:38 |
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| sagar_nikam | remote fx ... let me try sometime | 13:38 |
| sagar_nikam | not so soon | 13:38 |
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| claudiub|2 | ok | 13:38 |
| sagar_nikam | first we will try to check all other functionality in mitaka | 13:39 |
| sagar_nikam | and the scale tests | 13:39 |
| sagar_nikam | later priority will be remotefx | 13:39 |
| claudiub|2 | i see | 13:39 |
| claudiub|2 | well then, we can end this meeting early. :) | 13:39 |
| sagar_nikam | yes... | 13:39 |
| claudiub|2 | hopefully by next week we will have some good news about monasca. :) | 13:39 |
| sagar_nikam | yes i hope so | 13:40 |
| claudiub|2 | thanks all for joining, see you next week! | 13:40 |
| sagar_nikam | keep me posted on how the reviews go | 13:40 |
| sagar_nikam | on skype | 13:40 |
| claudiub|2 | will do. :) | 13:40 |
| sagar_nikam | i will try to get any help that you need | 13:40 |
| sagar_nikam | even i want monasca hyperv to be merged at the earliest | 13:40 |
| claudiub|2 | thanks. :) | 13:40 |
| claudiub|2 | #endmeeting | 13:41 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 7 13:41:15 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-09-07-13.01.html | 13:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-09-07-13.01.txt | 13:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-09-07-13.01.log.html | 13:41 |
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| njohnston | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 14:00 |
| njohnston | #chair ajo | 14:00 |
| njohnston | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron_qos_meeting_chair for the meeting agenda | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 7 14:00:08 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is njohnston. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos' | 14:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: ajo njohnston | 14:00 |
| ralonsoh | Hi | 14:00 |
| davidsha | Hey | 14:00 |
| njohnston | Hello everyone! | 14:00 |
| njohnston | What would you call us, I wonder? QoSians? QoSites? | 14:00 |
| ralonsoh | hehehe I don't know | 14:01 |
| njohnston | ajo is here but has some other stuff going on, so he may be intermittent | 14:01 |
| njohnston | #topic Barcelona | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Barcelona (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 14:01 | |
| njohnston | I only see one QoS talk, and it doesn't look like it is by anyone who I recognize | 14:01 |
| njohnston | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/15426/qos-qos-baby | 14:01 |
| njohnston | Did anyone else get a QoS-related talk in to the summit? | 14:01 |
| njohnston | I have one related to agent extensions with davidsha and mfranc213: https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/15187/under-the-trenchcoat-neutron-agent-extensions | 14:02 |
| ralonsoh | I'll go to this one | 14:02 |
| ralonsoh | We tried... whitout luck | 14:02 |
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| njohnston | That sucks | 14:03 |
| njohnston | Well, let's hope for better luck in Boston! | 14:03 |
| ralonsoh | yes! | 14:03 |
| njohnston | #topic openstack client | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "openstack client (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 14:03 | |
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| njohnston | Rather than spamming the list of openstack client changes, check the meeting agenda to get the list of 5 changes | 14:03 |
| ralonsoh | status of this: almost finish | 14:04 |
| njohnston | I don't think these are going to land in Newton now that N-3 has closed; it's pretty big for an FFE and I know there is still some churn | 14:04 |
| ralonsoh | waiting for one update in infra config | 14:04 |
| njohnston | what update? | 14:05 |
| ralonsoh | to enable qos for functional tests | 14:05 |
| ralonsoh | one sec... | 14:05 |
| ralonsoh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366719/ | 14:05 |
| njohnston | thanks, I'll add that to the list to track | 14:05 |
| njohnston | #topic RFEs | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RFEs (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 14:06 | |
| njohnston | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1586056 | 14:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1586056 in neutron "[RFE] Improved validation mechanism for QoS rules with port types" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 14:06 |
| njohnston | Two changes related to this | 14:07 |
| njohnston | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351858/ QoS notification driver changes | 14:07 |
| njohnston | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319694/ QoS validation improvements | 14:07 |
| njohnston | Looks like slaweq is offline; I'll skip ahead | 14:08 |
| njohnston | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1560963 | 14:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1560963 in neutron "[RFE] Minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Hirofumi Ichihara (ichihara-hirofumi) | 14:08 |
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| ralonsoh | Front-end and SR-IOV merged | 14:08 |
| ralonsoh | Linux Bridge in progress | 14:08 |
| ralonsoh | I'll submit a new patch for LB this week | 14:09 |
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| njohnston | excellent! | 14:09 |
| njohnston | #topic Bugs | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 14:10 | |
| njohnston | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1614728 | 14:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1614728 in neutron "REF: qos: rule list in policy is too difficult to use" [Undecided,New] | 14:10 |
| njohnston | I don't recall what we talked about this for last time, but IMHO it is opinion | 14:10 |
| njohnston | ajo: Can you take a look at this when you have a chance? | 14:10 |
| njohnston | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1603443 | 14:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1603443 in neutron "[QoS][DSCP] 'delete_dscp_marking' function raises exception, 'vif_port' not present" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to David Shaughnessy (david-shaughnessy) | 14:11 |
| njohnston | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/345915/ Looking good, needs one more +2 review | 14:11 |
| davidsha | Asked Ihar but he said he'd like ajo to have a look first. | 14:11 |
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| njohnston | #action ajo take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/345915/ | 14:12 |
| njohnston | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-neutronclient/+bug/1587291 | 14:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1587291 in python-neutronclient "Specifying '-F' or '--field' parameter in the qos related commands, returns abnormal result" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Yan Songming (songmingyan) | 14:12 |
| njohnston | There were three parts to this, only one remains, but it has issues | 14:12 |
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| njohnston | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324545/ | 14:12 |
| ajo_ | (sorry, I'm truly intermitent, network issues too) | 14:13 |
| njohnston | and I just tagged this one qos | 14:14 |
| njohnston | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1616547 | 14:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1616547 in neutron "qos: rule api definition shouldn't include tenant_id" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Isaku Yamahata (yamahata) | 14:14 |
| davidsha | ajo_: it's ok, we were just assigning you an excessive amount of work :P | 14:14 |
| njohnston | there is a fix out, but it has a -1 | 14:14 |
| ajo_ | lol | 14:14 |
| njohnston | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360009/ | 14:14 |
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| njohnston | Any other bugs anyone is tracking that are QoS related? | 14:15 |
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| ajo_ | Hmm | 14:15 |
| ajo_ | I'm not sure if the tenant_id there was for policy.json reasons | 14:16 |
| ajo_ | as soon as everything works, tenant_id should be ok there, | 14:16 |
| ajo_ | when we modeled that we thought that there was no need to replicate tenant_id to rules, | 14:16 |
| njohnston | ajo_: Sounds like you are more informed on this than I am :-) | 14:16 |
| ajo_ | I'll loop into the review | 14:17 |
| njohnston | cool, thanks | 14:17 |
| njohnston | #action ajo review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360009/ | 14:17 |
| njohnston | #topic Other Changes | 14:17 |
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| njohnston | There is some OVO work that we can be aware of | 14:17 |
| njohnston | #link https://review.openstack.org/356593 Qos Network Policy Binding OVO | 14:18 |
| njohnston | #link https://review.openstack.org/356576 Qos Port Policy Binding to OVO | 14:18 |
| njohnston | those are being actively worked on it seems | 14:18 |
| njohnston | the only other one that looks like we should be aware of is | 14:19 |
| njohnston | #link https://review.openstack.org/356472 Rename qos policy binding models class attr | 14:19 |
| njohnston | Does anyone have anything else on their gerrit radar? | 14:20 |
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| njohnston | ok moving on | 14:21 |
| njohnston | #topic Newton Postmortem | 14:21 |
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| njohnston | So I thought it would be good to set aside some time to talk about what worked well in the Newton timeframe, and what didn't work well. | 14:22 |
| njohnston | Perhaps we can set ourselves up for success in the abbreviated Ocata cycle | 14:22 |
| njohnston | davidsha ralonsoh ajo_: any thoughts? | 14:23 |
| ajo_ | can you update on what's the abbreviated Ocata cycle?, apparently, I'm completely outdated ':) | 14:23 |
| davidsha | ajo_: Ocata is a 4 month cycle I believe | 14:23 |
| njohnston | So the Ocata cycle is shorter than the others | 14:23 |
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| njohnston | in order to realign things for the summit and the pTG | 14:23 |
| ajo_ | why? for shifting dev & general conference? | 14:23 |
| ajo_ | ahaa | 14:24 |
| ajo_ | times of change :) | 14:24 |
| davidsha | ajo_: the Idea is to have the summits half way through development so there can be course correction I think. | 14:24 |
| ralonsoh | we need to plan in advance what to do next cycle, before the summit | 14:24 |
| njohnston | "This schedule is based on the final Ocata release happening the same week as the PTG to kick off the Pike cycle, currently scheduled for late February 2017 about 16 weeks after the design summit in Barcelona." | 14:24 |
| njohnston | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357214/ | 14:25 |
| njohnston | Add to that the usual end-of-December PTO many people have | 14:25 |
| ajo_ | aha | 14:26 |
| njohnston | So I think the only features that will make it are either ones that slipped from Newton and have a head start, or ones that are extremely disciplined. | 14:26 |
| ajo_ | ok, hmmm | 14:26 |
| ajo_ | but I see O release in end of February | 14:26 |
| ajo_ | isn't that 6 months ? | 14:26 |
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| davidsha | from the end of october? | 14:27 |
| njohnston | 4.5 months from mid October | 14:27 |
| ajo_ | oh, sorry :) | 14:27 |
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| ajo_ | ok, understood | 14:28 |
| davidsha | to the topic on hand, I think the way ralonsoh was breaking up his feature was a very good idea. I think it's the best way to do things going forward. | 14:28 |
| njohnston | +1 to that, the smaller, focused changes are easier to get review momentum | 14:28 |
| davidsha | DSCP would have made it for mitaka if I'd broken the back end from the front end which was dependent on l2-agent-extension-api | 14:29 |
| ajo_ | I think that this cycle we got caught up by the complications of growing up the features on QoS (validation because of backend heterogeneity), and because of openstacksdk/client new restrictions | 14:29 |
| ajo_ | and you all did a very good job folks, I've been mostly looking this cycle | 14:29 |
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| ajo_ | I agree, that breaking up stuff and prioritizing properly is the right thing to do | 14:30 |
| njohnston | It seems like those 'growing up' features you mention are still in progress, but they really set the stage for the future | 14:30 |
| ajo_ | client + server changes, then the simplest backend, then the next, then the next. | 14:30 |
| ajo_ | and documentation | 14:31 |
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| davidsha | +1 | 14:31 |
| ralonsoh | +1 | 14:32 |
| njohnston | ajo_: Are there other 'growing up' features you think QoS needs to address other than the notification and validation changes? | 14:32 |
| ajo_ | no, I think that may help us keep a sustainable growth in the future. | 14:32 |
| ajo_ | via a more consistent API. | 14:33 |
| ajo_ | I can't foresee more, doesn't mean there won't be... | 14:33 |
| njohnston | OK, so then those will need to be a high priority for Ocata | 14:33 |
| ajo_ | and, as you pointed up to me earlier today, | 14:33 |
| ajo_ | landing a feature, means landing it by the start of the cycle | 14:34 |
| ajo_ | to be safe | 14:34 |
| ajo_ | -1 / -2 | 14:34 |
| njohnston | yes | 14:34 |
| ajo_ | so that leaves headroom (-3) for the client, and final touch ups | 14:34 |
| ajo_ | and documentation | 14:34 |
| ajo_ | sometimes more complicated features may need to span across cycles. | 14:34 |
| ajo_ | and it's good if we can recognize that to avoid people getting frustrated. It's always amazing if we end before expected | 14:35 |
| njohnston | :-) | 14:35 |
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| njohnston | +1 to that | 14:35 |
| ajo_ | for people I mostly mean developers, but I suppose consumers can also get frustrated waiting sometimes :) | 14:35 |
| njohnston | YEs, I have gotten that, the "What do you mean <X feature I want> won't be in Newton?" from some consumer. | 14:36 |
| ajo_ | In next cycle(s) we have interesting challenges | 14:36 |
| ajo_ | probably finishing validation, ingress bw & min bw support, working out a bit more the documentation (thanks amotoki I've seen you're working on that too) | 14:37 |
| ajo_ | and, min bw strict support integration with nova resource pools, that's going to be funny, and... I suspect will span beyond ocata | 14:37 |
| ajo_ | well, TBH, I'm fairly confident, even more now with 4.5 months :) | 14:38 |
| njohnston | Does anyone else have anything else to add? | 14:38 |
| ajo_ | but I guess we can be in position to consider any other small feature if it's important for anyone | 14:38 |
| ajo_ | or extending the support matrix of existing rules (DSCP for SR-IOV or linuxbridge?) :) | 14:39 |
| njohnston | I don't eve know how you'd do DSCP for SR-IOV | 14:39 |
| njohnston | If anyone can show me that black magic, I will buy them the frosty beverage of their choice in Barcelona :-) | 14:39 |
| ajo_ | may be I wrong I think I saw something in ip link | 14:39 |
| ajo_ | may be moshele or ralonsoh can get some info on that :) | 14:40 |
| ralonsoh | ajo_: i'm on it | 14:40 |
| ralonsoh | and davidsha | 14:40 |
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| njohnston | nice | 14:40 |
| davidsha | looking it up atm | 14:40 |
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| njohnston | #topic Open Discussion | 14:41 |
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| davidsha | there is a type of service field I think. | 14:42 |
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| njohnston | Anything else anyone wants to talk about? | 14:42 |
| njohnston | davidsha: That brings joy to my heart | 14:42 |
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| ajo_ | also, I want to iterate on the L2 extensibility | 14:43 |
| ajo_ | with the flow pipeline | 14:43 |
| ajo_ | so I hope that davidsha and I can keep iterating on the framework and move the flow based extensions into it | 14:43 |
| davidsha | ajo_: The current spec is pretty much the final version right? | 14:43 |
| ajo_ | yes, | 14:44 |
| ajo_ | we may need to change the target to ocata, and keep coding / reviewing | 14:44 |
| ajo_ | I want to help on coding if there's room :D | 14:44 |
| davidsha | ack, I'll update the patch and start into unit tests. I think it might be ok, most of the functionality was covered in the WIP patch unless I'm mistaken. | 14:45 |
| ajo_ | njohnston: basically this all means that min bw & dscp will have their own openflow tables for ovs | 14:45 |
| njohnston | excellent | 14:45 |
| ajo_ | and will have to declare themselves as functions for openflow | 14:45 |
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| ajo_ | davidsha, let's e-meet may be this week or next to look at the code & spec together | 14:45 |
| ajo_ | to make sure we don't make you waste time too much on unit tests that may change later. | 14:46 |
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| davidsha | ajo_: sure! | 14:46 |
| ajo_ | I guess it's ok if you make them very high level first instead of very function specific | 14:46 |
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| ajo_ | nothing more on my side :D | 14:47 |
| njohnston | Anyone else? | 14:48 |
| ralonsoh | no | 14:48 |
| njohnston | OK, then I give you back 10 minutes. Thanks all! | 14:48 |
| njohnston | #endmeeting | 14:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 7 14:48:41 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-09-07-14.00.html | 14:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-09-07-14.00.txt | 14:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-09-07-14.00.log.html | 14:48 |
| ajo_ | thanks njohnston & all :) | 14:48 |
| davidsha | Thanks! | 14:48 |
| ralonsoh | bye | 14:48 |
| davidsha | cya | 14:48 |
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| rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 7 15:00:21 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | o/ | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| rbak | o/ | 15:00 |
| acabot | o/ | 15:00 |
| shinya_kwbt | o/ | 15:00 |
| koji | o/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | We have a fairly verbose agenda today | 15:00 |
| witek | o/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | Agenda for Wednesday September 7, 2016 (15:00 UTC) | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Planning and Reviews | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Cassandra/Monasca Summit | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Monday, September 12, 8 AM MST | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 2.Hyper-V Support in the Monasca Agent | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Thursday September 8, 1:00 PM MST | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 3.Notification Engine Plugin Review | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Not scheduled | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 4.Events Design Planning and Review | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Sometime next week | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 2.Sporadic metric status ? | 15:01 |
| bklei | \o | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 3.ORM/Postgres - changes ready for closer review | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | Is it o/ \o | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | i forget | 15:01 |
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| witek | does it matter? :) | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | it might matter for listing the attendees for the meeting in the irc logs | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | but i don't know for sure | 15:02 |
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| rhochmuth | i first wanted to cover some upcoming events | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Planning and Reviews | 15:02 |
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| rhochmuth | Cassandra/Monasca Summit | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | i think I have everyone on an email invite that mentioned that they wanted to attend this | 15:03 |
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| rhochmuth | but I wanted to just list it here | 15:03 |
| witek | did you get confirmation from Yuan or Andrei about Monday? | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | On Monday, September 12, 8 AM MST, we will have an on-line Skype/Lync session to discussion plans for the Cassandra work in Monasca | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | witek: yes i did | 15:04 |
| witek | nice | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | Hyper-V Support in the Monasca Agent | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | There has been a blueprint and reviews in progress since May | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | The reviews are at, https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:cbelu%2540cloudbasesolutions.com+monasca+status:open | 15:05 |
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| rhochmuth | We'll be having an on-line session with cbelu tomorrow | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | Thursday September 8, 1:00 PM MST | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | If anyone wants to attend please let me know | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | This will be a design/code overview and walk-through | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | The goal would be to help us out understanding what was done to expedite the review process | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | I would like to have a on-line design/code review to discuss Notification Engine Plugins | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | There are three review in progress that add custom formatting for the hipchat/slack plugins as well as a new JIRA plugin | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | If anyone wants to be in on that please let me know | 15:07 |
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| rhochmuth | The idea is to help us understand the design and code quicker to get through the review process quicker | 15:08 |
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| rhochmuth | I haven't scheduled that review yet, so let me know if interested | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | email also works | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | Finally, we discussed the events api/design work last week | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | I haven't scheduled that meeting yet | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | i will try for late next week | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | and yes, i know all the fujitsu folks are interested in that | 15:10 |
| witek | :) | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | Is there any other areas to cover for upcoming design/code review sessions/meetings | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | There is also prep for the Summit | 15:11 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic Sporadic metric status ? | 15:12 |
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| witek | it is from Tomasz | 15:12 |
| witek | he wanted to ask if Igor or Erickson would like to take this over | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | i have to admit i haven't been looking at that review very closely | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | are igor or erickson here? | 15:13 |
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| witek | I'll tell Tomasz to write them an email | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | i think tomasz will need to contact directly | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | i'm certainly ok with it | 15:14 |
| witek | ok, that's it I think | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | #topic ORM/Postgres - changes ready for closer review | 15:15 |
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| witek | Tomasz and Artur have been working on these recently | 15:15 |
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| witek | what is the status of devstack plugin on ubuntu-xenial? | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | shinya was workign on it | 15:16 |
| witek | project-config want to move everyting to xenial | 15:16 |
| shinya_kwbt | I'm working at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366024/ | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | thx shinya_kwbt | 15:17 |
| shinya_kwbt | but still development | 15:17 |
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| witek | we have two options: | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | so, if you complete that, then that would allow tomasz and artur to integrate the postgres and orm plugin | 15:18 |
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| witek | rhochmuth: yes, otherwise we would have to convince project-config to accept tests on trusty | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | so is one option convince to accept on trusty, and option 2 to complete port to xenial? | 15:20 |
| witek | yes, but I would switch the order | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | i was just listing them in any order | 15:21 |
| witek | if the effort is not too big | 15:21 |
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| rhochmuth | shinya_kwbt: so do you have any time-frame you feel comfortable with | 15:21 |
| shinya_kwbt | I will push migration but I don't know when it will be finished. | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | is there anything you need help with | 15:22 |
| shinya_kwbt | if possible I want help. | 15:23 |
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| rhochmuth | do you have a list of specific areas? | 15:23 |
| shinya_kwbt | there is some problem. | 15:23 |
| shinya_kwbt | notifcation can't start. | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | very strange because that is one of the simpler components | 15:24 |
| shinya_kwbt | and thresh cash. | 15:24 |
| shinya_kwbt | crash | 15:24 |
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| rhochmuth | everytime thresh crashes you get cash | 15:24 |
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| rhochmuth | so, i'll look into some help on notification and thresh | 15:25 |
| shinya_kwbt | I get cash? yes I pay cash? no | 15:25 |
| shinya_kwbt | thank you. | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | it tomasz and artur can keep helping that would also be good | 15:26 |
| witek | thanks shinya_kwbt and rhochmuth | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | the threshold engine crashing bother me | 15:26 |
| shinya_kwbt | kafka api persister strom are working. | 15:26 |
| witek | yes, sure | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | that sounds like a storm issue on xenial | 15:27 |
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| rhochmuth | So, I think that covers this topic | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | we'll try and get xenial working/completed | 15:28 |
| shinya_kwbt | it seems thresh cash leeds read only file systems | 15:28 |
| witek | the tests for ORM should be ready, so if we want to include then in newton we should decide for trusty or xenial soon | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | we've missed the date for getting them into newton | 15:29 |
| witek | ok | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | although we could update the newton branch | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | if that was important | 15:29 |
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| witek | well, not really that much | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | but, newton is supposed to be critical bug fixes at this point | 15:30 |
| witek | fair enough | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Dimensions API | 15:30 |
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| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/350830/ | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | We were discussing this last week | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | and via some emails on the side | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | my plan going forward is the following: | 15:31 |
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| rhochmuth | Return the dimensions names and values as a 1-D array in the "elements" field | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | each name and value is unique | 15:31 |
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| rhochmuth | therefore the returned list is unique | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | IDs are not necessary | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | Additionally, I'm wondering about the metric names resource | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | The documentation at, https://github.com/openstack/monasca-api/blob/master/docs/monasca-api-spec.md#response-examples-5 | 15:32 |
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| rhochmuth | descirbes a 1-D array, simialr to how how i think dimension names and values returned | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | However, the doc doesn't exactly match the response in the code | 15:33 |
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| rhochmuth | the code returns metric IDs, which I dno't understand the usefullness | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | Anyway, any questions/issues with the above | 15:33 |
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| rhochmuth | I'm assuming rbak and bklei might have some | 15:33 |
| rbak | Going back and changing the existing dimensions values will break Grafana | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | Yes, Grafana will need to be fixed | 15:34 |
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| bklei | it seems you feel strongly about it -- so whatever | 15:34 |
| rbak | Alright, as long as everyone knows there will updates required. | 15:34 |
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| rhochmuth | rbak: how difficult are the changes to Grafana | 15:35 |
| rbak | Not difficult, it just adds more complexity. | 15:35 |
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| rhochmuth | i would volunteer for making them, but i dont' know what i'm getting into | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | and my coding time has diminshed | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | lot's of reviews though | 15:37 |
| rbak | I would need to for the new endpoint anyway, so it's not out of my way to do it. | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | i'll take that as you don't trust me | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | :-) | 15:37 |
| witek | :) | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | thanks rbak | 15:38 |
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| rbak | If you want to give it a shot feel free, it just sounded like you didn't have time. | 15:38 |
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| rhochmuth | i probably don't | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | if you are going to making changes, which you have to anyway for the dimensions names, then i would prefer that you do it | 15:39 |
| rhochmuth | it will take be a while to spin-up on grafana again | 15:39 |
| rhochmuth | and have to learn a new programmign language too | 15:39 |
| rbak | That's fine, I'll be able to get to it as soon as the api changes merge. | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | rbak: do you have a reason for the metric IDs | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | in the metric names resource | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | kaiyan pointed that out to me, but it doesn't match the doc | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | and i'm not sure if they are used anywhere | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | it doesnt' hurt keepign them | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | but i was wondering if they shoudl be removed | 15:40 |
| rbak | Like I said before, the metric ids and 2d array were for consistency between responses. It allows the client to treat and merge all pages the same regardless of the endpoint. | 15:41 |
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| rbak | It kept things clean and simple for clients, but it can be done without. | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | do you want to keepo them or remove them | 15:41 |
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| rbak | I would prefer that all of the endpoints work the same way, but it sounds like you already decided against that. | 15:42 |
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| rhochmuth | i don't see a compelling reason to wrap a 1-D array in a 2-D structure a list of list | 15:43 |
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| rbak | And that's fine. I just wanted to throw out my views as someone writing a client for the api. | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | well, maybe i don't have an appreciation for the client-side completely, but i still think the 1-D structure is best | 15:44 |
| rbak | That's fine. In that case an id doesn't really do anything. | 15:45 |
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| rhochmuth | well, let me know if you think it could be removed and kaiyan can make that change too | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | she has got all the code opened up right now | 15:46 |
| rbak | If we're going with 1d it can be removed. | 15:46 |
| rbak | Same with the dimension values if we switch that to 1d | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | ok, thanks, i'll ask kaiyan to make those changes | 15:46 |
| rbak | As long as we don't have a 2d array with no id it should work. | 15:47 |
| rhochmuth | that is what i thought, so thanks for validating | 15:47 |
| rhochmuth | i jsut wanted to be sure | 15:47 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Add python multiple metrics for measurement and statistics | 15:48 |
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| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315742/ | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | Rbrandt has that review finally passing gates and it shoudl be ready for review | 15:48 |
| rbak | Is this just brining the python in line with the java group_by? | 15:49 |
| rhochmuth | It is mainly about that, but there were some adjustments to the Java InfluxDB code | 15:49 |
| rhochmuth | The Java code was mostly complete/done already | 15:50 |
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| rbak | But this still allows only group_by=* ? | 15:50 |
| rhochmuth | The Vertica code was not touched | 15:50 |
| rhochmuth | Correct rbak | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | this is for group_by=* for the Python code | 15:51 |
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| rbak | Alright, just making sure I understood what I was looking at. Thanks | 15:51 |
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| rhochmuth | group_by=dimension_name is another review | 15:52 |
| rhochmuth | that has some merge conflicts | 15:52 |
| rbak | yeah, I've been watching that one. | 15:52 |
| rhochmuth | rbrandt is working on that one as we type | 15:52 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Hyper-V support | 15:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Hyper-V support (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:53 | |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:cbelu%2540cloudbasesolutions.com+monasca+status:open | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | It looks like these reviews are mostly ready to go | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | There will be a design/code review session on-line tomorrow if anyone is interested | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | If anyone wants to attend please let me know | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Monasca Notificaiton Engine plugins | 15:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Monasca Notificaiton Engine plugins (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:54 | |
| rhochmuth | 1.Add Jira plugin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348001/ | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | 2.Add custom formatting: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349097/ | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | I'm trying to setup another on-line design/code review with haneef next week | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | again, mainly to expedite the review process, but in this case there might be some high-level discussions possibly on the jira plugin | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | let me know if interested and i can schedule with you included | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | #topic misc | 15:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "misc (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:56 | |
| rhochmuth | We have five minutes left | 15:56 |
| rhochmuth | are there any other topics | 15:56 |
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| rhochmuth | there are a bunch of other misc reviews and bug fixes | 15:56 |
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| rhochmuth | i guess that wraps up this session then | 15:57 |
| rhochmuth | thanks everyone | 15:57 |
| witek | thanks | 15:58 |
| shinya_kwbt | thx | 15:58 |
| bklei | thx roland | 15:58 |
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| rhochmuth | hasta la vista | 15:58 |
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| rhochmuth | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 7 15:59:04 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-09-07-15.00.html | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-09-07-15.00.txt | 15:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-09-07-15.00.log.html | 15:59 |
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| hogepodge | #startmeeting defcore | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 7 16:01:37 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hogepodge. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'defcore' | 16:01 |
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| hogepodge | #chair markvoelker eglute | 16:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute hogepodge markvoelker | 16:01 |
| eglute | o/ | 16:01 |
| markvoelker | o/ | 16:01 |
| catherine_d|1 | o/ | 16:01 |
| shamail | o/ | 16:02 |
| hogepodge | #topic agenda and roll call | 16:02 |
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| eglute | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreLunar.16 | 16:02 |
| hogepodge | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreLunar.16 | 16:02 |
| hogepodge | I'll let egle and markvoelker take it from here :-D | 16:02 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: =p | 16:02 |
| markvoelker | Well hogepodge, I think the first agenda item is you actually. =) | 16:02 |
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| eglute | :D | 16:03 |
| hogepodge | #topic Working Group Preferred Time for Barcelona | 16:03 |
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| hogepodge | The topic speaks for itself. I'm going to submit a request for a working group session. | 16:03 |
| hogepodge | Time and space is tight, so we'll likely only get one. | 16:03 |
| Rockyg | o/ | 16:03 |
| eglute | I would prefer Tuesday afternoon i think! | 16:03 |
| hogepodge | Our choices are Tu/W/Th and AM/PM | 16:04 |
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| markvoelker | I'd prefer "not Thursday" personally. | 16:04 |
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| shamail | W, PM | 16:04 |
| markvoelker | Other than that I'll make adjustments. | 16:04 |
| eglute | Same here, not Thursday would be great :) | 16:05 |
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| hogepodge | Can everyone put +1 and -1 in the etherpad as a vote? | 16:05 |
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| hogepodge | And I'll file for the best time from there. | 16:05 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: Do we need a Doodle poll, or do we need to move faster than that? | 16:05 |
| markvoelker | Doh...disconnected a sec there and missed that last comment | 16:06 |
| markvoelker | Etherpad it is | 16:06 |
| hogepodge | I guess doodle could work too, I've never really set one up before | 16:06 |
| eglute | doodles are easy, but ehterpad now works great | 16:06 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: nah, don't worry about it. I think we're good with the pad. | 16:06 |
| hogepodge | That's it for me, I'll put in the request once the meeting winds down | 16:07 |
| hogepodge | #action hogepodge to request working group time at summit | 16:07 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: thanks | 16:07 |
| markvoelker | #topic Name Change (hogepodge/shamail) | 16:07 |
| eglute | thank you hogepodge | 16:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Name Change (hogepodge/shamail) (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:07 | |
| hogepodge | I request two slots, but no promises | 16:07 |
| eglute | thanks! | 16:07 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge/shamail: take it away | 16:08 |
| hogepodge | shamail and I volunteered for this last week, but I haven't moved it forward yet | 16:08 |
| hogepodge | shamail: how about you? | 16:08 |
| shamail | Negative | 16:08 |
| shamail | The plan is to setup an etherpad and then hogepodge and I will add all the items we think need to be modified | 16:08 |
| shamail | then divide/conquer | 16:08 |
| eglute | works for me | 16:09 |
| hogepodge | and create work items in launchpad so we can track them and delegate as necessary | 16:09 |
| shamail | and also set some items as “priority” (more visible aspects) since we will be announcing the name change at Barcelona | 16:09 |
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| shamail | hogepodge: +1 | 16:09 |
| markvoelker | 'k. FYI https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327086/ is out there with some doc updates if you want to add that to whatever etherpad. | 16:09 |
| Rockyg | storyboard is now connectd to gerrit...just saying | 16:09 |
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| shamail | Thanks markvoelker, we’ll go through that as a starting point | 16:09 |
| shamail | good point Rockyg | 16:10 |
| hogepodge | Rockyg: I'm a bit suspicious of storyboard after having been burned by moving refstack to it last year | 16:10 |
| hogepodge | then the project being abandoned | 16:10 |
| Zara | aw, it's changed a lot in the interim. :) | 16:10 |
| emagana | I just wanted to say hi everybody! | 16:10 |
| eglute | hello emagana! | 16:11 |
| emagana | eglute: Hey, I trust you are doing great. | 16:11 |
| markvoelker | #action hogepodge/shamail to work on enumerating work for name change | 16:11 |
| shamail | hi emagana | 16:11 |
| hogepodge | but, IMO, that could be a post-summit work item if we want to move to a different tracker | 16:11 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: ++ | 16:11 |
| emagana | shamail: Hi buddy! | 16:11 |
| markvoelker | Ok, anything further on the name change then? | 16:12 |
| shamail | Nothing from my end for now | 16:12 |
| markvoelker | #topic 2017.01 Guideline | 16:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "2017.01 Guideline (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:12 | |
| eglute | I put together a quick reading list... anything missing from it? | 16:13 |
| eglute | and by quick, i dont mean that the reading will be quick :) | 16:13 |
| * shamail thought he was done with homework by now | 16:14 | |
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| eglute | shamail, you asked for it :D | 16:14 |
| Rockyg | Beklieve it or not, it was longer ago than last year, hogepodge and there is a team workin on it now. Plus, its a short term task | 16:14 |
| markvoelker | eglute: Looks like a reasonable starting point. hogepodge, I was out at a conference last week but thanks for volunteering to lead a how-to session | 16:14 |
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| markvoelker | #link http://doodle.com/poll/gucmhwpcu9sqv65n Poll for intro-to-creating-guidelines session date | 16:14 |
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| eglute | hogepodge volunteered to hold a session on creating next guideline. We will attempt to record it | 16:15 |
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| markvoelker | One very important thing to keep in mind folks: we usually use a divide-and-conquer approach where we get volunteers to play point on identifying new capabilities for each of the projects. | 16:16 |
| markvoelker | So be thinking about what you'd like to volunteer for | 16:16 |
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| eglute | we hope to have a lot of volunteers after hogepodge session! | 16:16 |
| markvoelker | I have a patch locally that I need to push up with a few changes to next.json to get ready for the next Guideline...I'll do that this afternoon. | 16:17 |
| eglute | thank you markvoelker | 16:17 |
| markvoelker | We need to start cracking on IDing new capabilities soon though. | 16:17 |
| Rockyg | are we going to score Trove? | 16:18 |
| markvoelker | I'd suggest that after hogepodge's session we assign volunteers and start work so folks know what tehy're signing up for. | 16:18 |
| eglute | hogepodge proposed that the 2017.01 guideline would be a bit lighter than the 2016.08 | 16:18 |
| * amrith wonders what 'scoring trove' means | 16:18 | |
| eglute | amrith, attend the session: http://doodle.com/poll/gucmhwpcu9sqv65n | 16:19 |
| eglute | in short, scoring is to determine whether trove is ready to be added to defcore | 16:19 |
| amrith | what are the 'criteria'? | 16:20 |
| eglute | reading list: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreLunar.16 | 16:20 |
| catherine_d|1 | markvoelker: will the next.json be based on 2016.08? They are very different now ... | 16:20 |
| hogepodge | amrith: we take a look at the public apis and evaluate their adoption, stability, and so on, then determine if they can be considered as part of the guideline for an openstack powered project | 16:20 |
| markvoelker | amrith: attend the session to find out. =) Or read: https://github.com/openstack/defcore/blob/master/doc/source/process/CoreCriteria.rst | 16:20 |
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| markvoelker | catherine_d|1: yes, the patch I was working on locally reconciles them. | 16:21 |
| catherine_d|1 | markvoelker: +1 | 16:21 |
| eglute | thanks markvoelker and hogepodge for summarizing, much nicer than me sending the whole laundry list of links to read :) | 16:21 |
| * markvoelker spends too much time on aeroplanes nowadays where using git is a pain and thus has more local patches than he'd like at the moment | 16:21 | |
| * eglute is impressed markvoelker can get work done on planes | 16:22 | |
| amrith | markvoelker, eglute when will the actual meeting time be decided? I've voted on the doodle but realize that one of the options is tomorrow | 16:22 |
| eglute | amrith will decide soon after this meeting i think | 16:23 |
| markvoelker | amrith: I believe hogepodge was going to close that out this afternoon | 16:23 |
| eglute | i will send out calendar invite to defcore mailing list | 16:23 |
| amrith | is there a mailing list which will be notified? | 16:23 |
| amrith | or is it openstack-dev | 16:24 |
| eglute | amrith are you subscribed to defcore-committee@lists.openstack.org | 16:24 |
| amrith | this is literally the first I've heard of it and only because Rockyg mentioned the word 'trove' | 16:24 |
| amrith | eglute, likely no | 16:24 |
| amrith | but I can check | 16:24 |
| eglute | ok, we should probably send the invite to other mailing lists then too :) | 16:24 |
| shamail | eglute: +1, best place to find new recruits is outside the current base | 16:25 |
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| amrith | thanks Rockyg for mentioning the word trove here | 16:25 |
| amrith | does defcore have designated project liaisons? | 16:25 |
| Rockyg | Np ;-) | 16:25 |
| amrith | sorry if I'm derailing your meeting | 16:25 |
| hogepodge | amrith: we usually assign liaisons around scoring time | 16:26 |
| hogepodge | which is around now | 16:26 |
| markvoelker | amrith: yes and no. Not permanent ones, but with each scoring cycle someone plays point for scoring each project, so that person becomes the "liaison" for that round of scoring. | 16:26 |
| Rockyg | No one "designated", but PTLs usually gt notified... | 16:26 |
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| eglute | amrith, good questions! we have a light agenda today, so appreciate questions | 16:26 |
| amrith | well, i'm the trove ptl so I guess I was notified as 12:18:17 today in IRC | 16:26 |
| markvoelker | Speaking of which.... =) My plan is that after hogepodge's session I'll start signing up volunteers via an etherpad. So be ready to volunteer by the end of the week, please. | 16:27 |
| markvoelker | #action: defcore-committee be ready to volunteer for scoring a project (or two) this week. | 16:27 |
| eglute | markvoelker great idea on etherpad. we can start one before the session too | 16:27 |
| markvoelker | Sure, I'll put one up and send it over to hogepodge...but I'd like to have him do the session first so folks know what they're signing up for. It's not a trivial amount of work.=) | 16:28 |
| eglute | markvoelker agree, would like to share it at the end of the session :) | 16:28 |
| markvoelker | Ok, anything else to discuss about this right now? | 16:29 |
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| eglute | other than we are on a shorter than usual timeline for this guideline | 16:29 |
| amrith | one last question. is there something that I should prepare for, given that this meeting to score trove is like tomorrow or the day after? I'd like to help you with information to make the decision but given the short notice, could I request one of you to volunteer to give me a crash course on this thing, after your meeting please. markvoelker ... would you? | 16:30 |
| markvoelker | amrith: we won't be scoring Trove this week. That meeting is just an intro to the scoring process | 16:30 |
| eglute | amrith the session is meant to be an intro into scoring. | 16:30 |
| amrith | oh, good | 16:30 |
| amrith | that answers the question | 16:30 |
| amrith | thanks! | 16:30 |
| markvoelker | Sure thing | 16:31 |
| markvoelker | Ok, moving along to our last agenda item... | 16:31 |
| markvoelker | #topic Reviews | 16:31 |
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| eglute | amrith we would like to have everything scored by October 12 | 16:31 |
| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366360/ | 16:31 |
| amrith | thx, lmk how I can help with trove. sorry to interrupt your meeting | 16:31 |
| markvoelker | catherine_d|1 do you want to speak to this? Anything we need to know other than "please review it"? =) | 16:31 |
| markvoelker | amrith: no worries, and thanks | 16:31 |
| catherine_d|1 | I put that oon WIP until the tempest patch merges | 16:32 |
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| catherine_d|1 | I did not add next.json on the patch because I feel like we need a new next,json and markvoelker: is working on it | 16:32 |
| markvoelker | catherine_d|1: yep. I'll get that posted later today and we can go from there...if it lands before the Tempest patch we can just ammend this one with another patchset and include it there. | 16:33 |
| catherine_d|1 | basically Tempest moves some of the tests to a different file and thus the name will change and need aliases | 16:33 |
| catherine_d|1 | markvoelker: sure | 16:33 |
| catherine_d|1 | It is nice the the Tempest folk actually alert us on such change ... good team work | 16:34 |
| eglute | indeed! | 16:34 |
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| markvoelker | ++ | 16:34 |
| markvoelker | Ok, anything else today folks? | 16:34 |
| eglute | i am good! I will send the calendar invite for hogepodge session later today | 16:34 |
| catherine_d|1 | thank you all for reviewing the Refstacj patches ... | 16:35 |
| catherine_d|1 | I know we have too many revision ... please stay with us | 16:35 |
| eglute | catherine_d|1 do you have anything refstack related to review for us today? | 16:35 |
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| catherine_d|1 | still the same 2 patches :-( | 16:35 |
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| catherine_d|1 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343954/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332260/ | 16:36 |
| eglute | thanks catherine_d|1 | 16:36 |
| markvoelker | I'm delinquent on reviewing those since I've been out at conferences most of the past two weeks, so I'll try to make a point to do that today or tomorrow | 16:36 |
| catherine_d|1 | markvoelker: thank you! | 16:36 |
| markvoelker | Anything else? If not, looks like we may actually get to wrap up early for a change... | 16:37 |
| * markvoelker 's mind is blown | 16:37 | |
| mugsie | just one quick question | 16:37 |
| eglute | mugsie go for it! | 16:37 |
| mugsie | how are projet chosen for being scored? | 16:37 |
| mugsie | projects* | 16:37 |
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| markvoelker | I believe hogepodge will cover that as well. =) But basically we look at how the project stacks up to the Criteria. | 16:38 |
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| markvoelker | Usually a good indicator is adoption | 16:38 |
| eglute | #link https://github.com/openstack/defcore/blob/master/doc/source/process/CoreCriteria.rst | 16:38 |
| mugsie | OK | 16:38 |
| markvoelker | (b/c if a project is poorly adopted it tends to score low on a lot of other criteria generally) | 16:38 |
| amrith | hello mugsie maybe you should register for http://doodle.com/poll/gucmhwpcu9sqv65n | 16:38 |
| mugsie | so what projects are on the list then? | 16:38 |
| Rockyg | Also maturity. | 16:38 |
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| markvoelker | And for those not aware, we're currently only scoring tc-approved-release projects. | 16:39 |
| eglute | mugsie do you have a particular project in mind? | 16:39 |
| mugsie | markvoelker: whick only this committee can add projects too | 16:39 |
| markvoelker | Nope, that's a TC decision not ours. | 16:39 |
| Rockyg | nova, glance, keystone, neutron, cinder, swift. | 16:39 |
| markvoelker | Rockyg: no, it's more than that. https://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/tc-approved-release.html | 16:40 |
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| mugsie | OK., its a little clearer | 16:40 |
| Rockyg | no, I'm talking about current defcore included projcts | 16:40 |
| mugsie | possibly send this info and the session on to PTLs? | 16:41 |
| Rockyg | We pick from the TC approved list and look at the user surveys for adoption to see whther to considr scoring | 16:41 |
| eglute | mugsie i will send invite to dev mailing list. if PTLs have their own list, perhaps someone can forward it. | 16:41 |
| Rockyg | Actually, posting the session to dev ML might be a fgood thing | 16:41 |
| markvoelker | mugsie: sure. Usually once we have volunteers to score the individual projects, those people will contact the PTL's of the projects they're playing point on scoring for but we can send out hogepodge's session wider too. | 16:42 |
| mugsie | OK - so we need to get on that list then. | 16:42 |
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| eglute | mugsie we also have a defcore mailing list: defcore-committee@lists.openstack.org if you do not want to miss anything as well as irc channel openstack-defcore | 16:43 |
| amrith | eglute, ptl's don't have a list. just add [ptl] to the subject line | 16:43 |
| mugsie | eglute: if you tag it [PTL] most of us will get it | 16:43 |
| eglute | amrith thanks! | 16:43 |
| amrith | I've subscribed to defcore list defcore-committee@lists.openstack.org | 16:43 |
| eglute | great! | 16:43 |
| eglute | any other questions? | 16:43 |
| markvoelker | OK folks, I think we're done with the meeting for the day. We'll be around in the usual haunts (#openstack-defcore, ML, etc). Thanks! | 16:44 |
| Rockyg | RTW/RTR | 16:44 |
| markvoelker | #endmeeting | 16:44 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 7 16:44:52 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-09-07-16.01.html | 16:44 |
| Rockyg | read the wiki/repo | 16:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-09-07-16.01.txt | 16:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-09-07-16.01.log.html | 16:44 |
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| robcresswell | #startmeeting horizon | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 7 20:00:45 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is robcresswell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:00 |
| robcresswell | o/ | 20:01 |
| david-lyle | o/ | 20:01 |
| bpokorny | o/ | 20:01 |
| rdopiera | o/ | 20:01 |
| rdopiera | hail grammer! | 20:01 |
| ediardo | o/ | 20:01 |
| r1chardj0n3s | o/ | 20:01 |
| * robcresswell looks at agenda | 20:02 | |
| robcresswell | Agenda is empty | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | RC1 target is Thursday 15th, so 8 days | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | If there are no critical bugs, that'll be our final release, so we're on the last stretch now | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | I've been trawling the bug list a bit and targeting bugs; there are a few high ones in https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/newton-rc1 | 20:04 |
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| robcresswell | Also, the Glance v2 patch is ready for review, and that really needs to go in. | 20:04 |
| * robcresswell finds patch | 20:04 | |
| robcresswell | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320039/ | 20:05 |
| robcresswell | Expect me to be generally annoying and pinging people for reviews, as usual :) | 20:05 |
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| robcresswell | Any other general notices? Otherwise we can move to open floor | 20:05 |
| bpokorny | A note on the Glance v2 patch: | 20:06 |
| r1chardj0n3s | wow, that patch has some lineage | 20:06 |
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| bpokorny | It has a minor limitation, which I documented in the release notes. | 20:06 |
| robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s: Yeah, the blueprint joined Horizon before I did. | 20:06 |
| bpokorny | Timur was trying to solve it, but nothing has worked yet. | 20:06 |
| r1chardj0n3s | bpokorny: that's his comment on patch set 49? | 20:07 |
| bpokorny | It's a minor issue, so it seems fine to me if we leave it as is unless Timur or I have a sudden spout of great brilliance that solves it. | 20:07 |
| * bpokorny looks at ps 49.. | 20:08 | |
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| r1chardj0n3s | based on your comment in ps 50, I'm pretty sure it is | 20:08 |
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| * r1chardj0n3s will review the code today from his usual general point of ignorance about glance v1/v2 issues | 20:09 | |
| bpokorny | r1chardj0n3s: His latest comment about it is on ps 50. | 20:09 |
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| bpokorny | About the patch 365245 that he pushed up. | 20:10 |
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| bpokorny | But 365245 caused other problems. | 20:10 |
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| bpokorny | I'll clarify that in the Glance v2 review. | 20:10 |
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| robcresswell | I don't have anything else to add, so if anyone wants to address the room, feel free | 20:14 |
| robcresswell | otherwise we can end early. | 20:14 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I guess in other news the py35 test job was promoted to voting yesterday. | 20:14 |
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| robcresswell | \o/ | 20:14 |
| robcresswell | I remembered the meeting this week too | 20:14 |
| robcresswell | double success. | 20:14 |
| r1chardj0n3s | \o/ | 20:15 |
| bpokorny | Yeah! | 20:15 |
| robcresswell | I think your achievement dwarfs mine somewhat. | 20:15 |
| r1chardj0n3s | eh | 20:15 |
| r1chardj0n3s | :-) | 20:15 |
| robcresswell | Oh, if people haven't already seen: https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | 20:15 |
| robcresswell | Has a neat little colourful graph and everything | 20:15 |
| robcresswell | There's also a thread on the mailer right now about changing/adding a "Release Steward" role alongside PTLs | 20:17 |
| david-lyle | robcresswell: it might be good to mention that the horizon stuff at the barcelona summit will go to the end of the day on Friday, which is different from past summits | 20:17 |
| rdopiera | hmm, so no free swag anymore | 20:17 |
| david-lyle | so those making travel arrangements can take that into account | 20:17 |
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| robcresswell | david-lyle: Are the sessions finalised? I missed that email :/ | 20:18 |
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| david-lyle | robcresswell: no, but with the shifted schedule all the collaborate meetups are in the PM on Fri | 20:18 |
| david-lyle | YIL | 20:19 |
| robcresswell | Oh, sure. | 20:19 |
| david-lyle | people tend to jet Fri noon | 20:19 |
| david-lyle | so just a heads up | 20:19 |
| robcresswell | So, as david-lyle mentioned our final meetup will end in the afternoon, not midday as before, so just be aware of that :) | 20:19 |
| david-lyle | thanks robcresswell | 20:20 |
| david-lyle | :-D | 20:20 |
| robcresswell | There is also an interesting thread on the mailer right now about adding a "Release Steward" role alongside PTL | 20:20 |
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| robcresswell | wait | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | I said that already | 20:21 |
| * robcresswell needs sleep. | 20:21 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | :-) | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | ANYWAY. its worth a glance if that sort of thing interests you. | 20:21 |
| david-lyle | robcresswell: no trying to spread the pain, it's yours and yours alone | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | I feel like Frodo and the ring | 20:22 |
| robcresswell | david-lyle: The fun part is that the stewards aren't elected, the PTL nominates them... feel like a new title? | 20:23 |
| david-lyle | chief shirker suits me fine | 20:23 |
| robcresswell | haha | 20:24 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | peanut gallery technical lead | 20:24 |
| david-lyle | bah humbug at arms | 20:25 |
| r1chardj0n3s | :-) | 20:25 |
| robcresswell | One more thing, to those working closely with deployments or product teams, now would be a wonderful time to point horizon at a test env and see if anything falls over spectacularly. | 20:25 |
| robcresswell | Keen to avoid any severe cases of "well it worked on devstack" | 20:25 |
| david-lyle | but we have t-shirts | 20:26 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | (*some* of us have shirts, *grumble*) | 20:26 |
| robcresswell | "helping" | 20:26 |
| david-lyle | bah humbug | 20:26 |
| robcresswell | rdopiera: Not only is PTG no free swag, its also no parties. | 20:26 |
| david-lyle | and it's in a windowless closet | 20:27 |
| david-lyle | and smells like locker room | 20:27 |
| robcresswell | Not that free beer ever influenced my desire to travel. | 20:27 |
| robcresswell | david-lyle: :( | 20:27 |
| david-lyle | I may have made those up | 20:27 |
| david-lyle | details are light | 20:27 |
| david-lyle | :P | 20:27 |
| * r1chardj0n3s gets "Not that free beer ever influenced my desire to travel." sticker printed for robcresswell | 20:28 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | I think maybe the meeting has run its course? | 20:28 |
| david-lyle | but it never hurt | 20:28 |
| robcresswell | Yeah, we're rambling. | 20:28 |
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| robcresswell | Thanks for your time everyone | 20:28 |
| robcresswell | #endmeeting | 20:29 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 7 20:29:01 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-09-07-20.00.html | 20:29 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-09-07-20.00.txt | 20:29 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-09-07-20.00.log.html | 20:29 |
| bpokorny | Thanks! | 20:29 |
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