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| tdurakov | #startmeeting Nova Live Migration | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 27 14:00:17 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tdurakov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:00 | |
| tdurakov | hi everyone | 14:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_live_migration' | 14:00 |
| * kashyap waves | 14:00 | |
| mrhillsman | o/ | 14:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 14:00 |
| mdbooth | o/ | 14:00 |
| raj_singh | o/ | 14:00 |
| davidgiluk | o/ | 14:01 |
| ltomasbo | o/ | 14:01 |
| tdurakov | agenda for the meeting https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaLiveMigration#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 14:01 |
| tdurakov | #topic CI | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:02 | |
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| tdurakov | let me start, I'm working in background on the patch to re-enable ceph for the tempest l-m job, so will notify, once ready | 14:03 |
| mriedem | fyi on ceph | 14:03 |
| mriedem | we're hitting some other issues with the ceph job on xenial | 14:03 |
| * johnthetubaguy lurks | 14:04 | |
| mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1627220 | 14:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1627220 in devstack-plugin-ceph "ceph: test_volume_boot_pattern fails with "ImageNotFound: error protecting snapshot"" [Undecided,In progress] | 14:04 |
| tdurakov | mriedem: so, we are blocked on *both* backends | 14:04 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: well, ^ might not impact live migration tests | 14:04 |
| mriedem | it only seems to blow up tests that use snapshots | 14:04 |
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| mdbooth | mriedem: Does that impact nova? Bug seems cindery. | 14:04 |
| tdurakov | mriedem then it should not | 14:05 |
| mriedem | it impacts everything in the ceph job | 14:05 |
| mriedem | but not the bug isn't in nova | 14:05 |
| tdurakov | you are right | 14:05 |
| mriedem | there is a guy from red hat with a patch for the devstack plugin | 14:05 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: Gotcha | 14:05 |
| mriedem | sounds like a regression in the version of ceph in xenial | 14:05 |
| tdurakov | any updates on grenade job? | 14:06 |
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| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: hi, are you around? | 14:06 |
| tdurakov | anyone else has updates on that? | 14:08 |
| tdurakov | seems no | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | I don't, I know raj_singh is hoping to take a look at that, if pkoniszewski doesn't get there | 14:09 |
| mriedem | i know the patch, sec | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, the patch is up | 14:09 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364809/ | 14:09 |
| mriedem | i had reviewed it | 14:09 |
| raj_singh | yes I pinged pkoniszewski if he need any help, have not heard back | 14:09 |
| mriedem | i have some concerns about it, | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364809 | 14:09 |
| mriedem | we should probably test that in a d-g WIP patch first to see if it works | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: didn't you have a patch at one point that helped with that? | 14:10 |
| mriedem | b/c by default grenade jobs only run smoke tests | 14:10 |
| mriedem | and the live migration tests aren't smoke tests | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: ah, rather than a brand new thing | 14:10 |
| tdurakov | mriedem: right | 14:10 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: they are just one-offs | 14:10 |
| tdurakov | mriedem: how could we test it without merging initial job definition? | 14:10 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: basically you take the variables and shell stuff from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364809/5/jenkins/jobs/devstack-gate.yaml and put that into a d-g change | 14:10 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: like this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362441/ | 14:11 |
| tdurakov | mriedem: will it help? | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | raj_singh: could you get someone to try that out? | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | nice to know it would work | 14:12 |
| tdurakov | I think there will be no such job registered in zuul, am I wrong?? | 14:12 |
| raj_singh | johnthetubaguy: yes sure | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | so modify the existing job, in a DNM path, depend on that on some nova patch, and we test out to see if grenade + live-migrate works | 14:13 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: the d-g change would test it | 14:13 |
| mriedem | project-config defines the job and just passes variables to d-g | 14:14 |
| tdurakov | mriedem: so, existing job for now, as a debug/PoC? | 14:14 |
| mriedem | we can WIP a d-g change to hardcoded those same vars to test things | 14:14 |
| mriedem | yeah | 14:14 |
| mriedem | there is a multinode grenade job that runs on d-g already | 14:14 |
| tdurakov | got it, yeah this will work | 14:14 |
| mriedem | the post_test_hook is something i haven't figured out how to stub in d-g yet | 14:15 |
| mriedem | actually maybe i have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377113/2/devstack-vm-gate-wrap.sh | 14:15 |
| tdurakov | mriedem: l-m job we have is based on post-test hook | 14:16 |
| mriedem | yeah i know | 14:16 |
| mriedem | so, i can take a todo to try and run this through d-g today | 14:16 |
| mriedem | at least start it | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh, nice, just redefine it to call us | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | cheakey | 14:16 |
| tdurakov | +1, p.s I've commented that patch | 14:17 |
| tdurakov | so let's use one directory for such hooks | 14:17 |
| tdurakov | do we have anything else on CI? | 14:18 |
| tdurakov | let's go next then | 14:19 |
| tdurakov | #topic Bugs | 14:19 |
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| tdurakov | has anyone seen https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375644/ ? | 14:21 |
| mriedem | nope | 14:21 |
| mriedem | there isn't a bug associated with that either | 14:21 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: It's not really a bug | 14:22 |
| tdurakov | mdbooth: what is it then? | 14:22 |
| tdurakov | looks like a bug | 14:22 |
| mdbooth | tdurakov: It's a statement | 14:23 |
| tdurakov | mdbooth: do we need to backport that 'statement'? | 14:23 |
| mdbooth | I'm not convinced I agree it's a good change, tbh | 14:24 |
| mdbooth | I'd want input from danpb on this | 14:24 |
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| tdurakov | so, please review that | 14:25 |
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| tdurakov | there are also several new bugs | 14:26 |
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| mdbooth | tdurakov: I've asked danpb to look. | 14:27 |
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| tdurakov | mdbooth: thank you | 14:28 |
| tdurakov | there are also 4 new/confirmed bug for live-migration | 14:28 |
| tdurakov | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=liberty-backport-potential+&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used | 14:29 |
| tdurakov | =&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on&search=Search | 14:29 |
| mdbooth | tdurakov: Could you paste the 4 bug links? | 14:30 |
| davidgiluk | and/or a short URL for the search | 14:30 |
| mdbooth | Right | 14:30 |
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| * tdurakov love launchpad | 14:31 | |
| tdurakov | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1573875 | 14:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1573875 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "The same ceph rbd device is used by multiple instances" [Undecided,New] | 14:31 |
| tdurakov | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1573944 | 14:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1573944 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "target-lun id of volume changed when live-migration failed" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Xuanzhou Perry Dong (oss-xzdong) | 14:31 |
| tdurakov | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1583107 | 14:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1583107 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "live-migration abort parameters are not honored" [Undecided,New] | 14:32 |
| tdurakov | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1583145 | 14:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1583145 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "live-migration monitoring is not working properly" [Undecided,New] | 14:32 |
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| mdbooth | tdurakov: From the first bug: "We use Kilo from Ubuntu cloud archive" | 14:32 |
| mdbooth | Can we close that one? | 14:32 |
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| tdurakov | it looks like a duplicate https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1419577 | 14:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1419577 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "when live-migrate failed, lun-id couldn't be rollback in havana" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Lee Yarwood (lyarwood) | 14:33 |
| tdurakov | second one | 14:33 |
| tdurakov | mdbooth: I'll move first to incomplete and ask to check on newer version | 14:34 |
| mdbooth | tdurakov: Further down they mention mitaka | 14:34 |
| tdurakov | #action to triage bugs above | 14:34 |
| tdurakov | let's do it after meeting and go to the next topic | 14:35 |
| tdurakov | #topic specs | 14:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "specs (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:35 | |
| tdurakov | I've walked through latest submitted/updated specs | 14:36 |
| tdurakov | so added 2 in agenda | 14:36 |
| tdurakov | if you have any other specs, please update agenda | 14:36 |
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| mdbooth | Related, I need to re-propose persistent instance metadata | 14:37 |
| tdurakov | so, first one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347161/ | 14:37 |
| * mdbooth has quite gotten round to it yet, though | 14:37 | |
| tdurakov | paul-carlton2: hi, are you around? | 14:38 |
| mdbooth | So, I have a point related to that spec | 14:38 |
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| mdbooth | paul-carlton2: Why is that APIImpact, btw? | 14:38 |
| mdbooth | That's not it, anyway. | 14:38 |
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| paul-carlton2 | yep | 14:39 |
| paul-carlton2 | api impact because attempting to live migrate a rescued instance has different outcome | 14:39 |
| mdbooth | So, currently the libvirt driver assumes that the db is canonical. i.e. At any point we can throw away libvirt xml and regenerate it. | 14:40 |
| mdbooth | This spec follows that model, so it's fine. | 14:40 |
| paul-carlton2 | it will return the same sort of error for XenAPI hypervisor but on libvirt it will migtrate | 14:40 |
| tdurakov | paul-carlton2: I agree with mdbooth on that, it's just kind of fix, no api change actually | 14:40 |
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| paul-carlton2 | I'm happy to remove it, pretty sure I was told to added on the mitaka version of this, will check who by | 14:41 |
| mdbooth | However, I was recently thinking about this assumption in a few different contexts. We (RH) got a customer bug about disk ordering changing after a reboot. | 14:41 |
| mdbooth | At that point, I started thinking if that's something we could fix by persisting this info in persistent instance metadata. | 14:41 |
| tdurakov | paul-carlton2: yes, please, I'll leave a comment on that either | 14:42 |
| mdbooth | Then I got to wondering if we're just going to end up tying ourselves in knots, and we should update everything which currently assumes that the db is canonical and switch to libvirt being canonical. | 14:42 |
| mdbooth | The reason I bring it up here specifically is that it's relevant to this spec. | 14:42 |
| mdbooth | paul-carlton2: Any thoughts ^^^ ? | 14:43 |
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| paul-carlton2 | I think nova db should be the authority | 14:44 |
| mdbooth | So, if libvirt domain xml was canonical, we would need to separately store storage format or location. Also we would never lose device ordering, address assignment. | 14:44 |
| paul-carlton2 | we rebuild libvirt stuff from nova db in hard reboot rebuild etc | 14:44 |
| mdbooth | paul-carlton2: Right. That's something we'd fix. | 14:44 |
| paul-carlton2 | gets us out of jail sometimes | 14:44 |
| mdbooth | There's probably about 4 places we'd need to fix. | 14:44 |
| tdurakov | domain.xml shouldn't be source of truth | 14:44 |
| mdbooth | tdurakov: I'm arguing against that. | 14:45 |
| paul-carlton2 | mdbooth, it is turning stuff on its head and db should be the authority for all hypervisors | 14:45 |
| mdbooth | domain.xml *isn't* canonical source of truth. I'm arguing it might be easier if it was, though. | 14:45 |
| mdbooth | paul-carlton2: It means we don't need to store driver-specific detail to the Nth degree in the db. | 14:46 |
| tdurakov | mdbooth: there is a bug on hard_reboot instances with config drive, and the way nova rebuilds domain.xml make things tricky | 14:46 |
| paul-carlton2 | but that would only impact libvirt, other hypervisors might be different | 14:46 |
| mdbooth | See above around address assignment, device ordering. | 14:46 |
| mdbooth | tdurakov: Right. I'm suggesting nova should never rebuild domain.xml. | 14:46 |
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| mdbooth | Unless doing an actual rebuild, eg for evacuate. | 14:47 |
| paul-carlton2 | trouble is we can't assume what current or future hyper-visors can do | 14:47 |
| mdbooth | paul-carlton2: Exactly, that's libvirt's problem. | 14:47 |
| paul-carlton2 | better to store everything you need in db and build instance, whatever the hypervisor, from that | 14:47 |
| mdbooth | paul-carlton2: But then you implicitly *lose* all the hypervisor's new features unless you also add them to Nova. | 14:48 |
| mdbooth | We're duplicating libvirt functionality in Nova. | 14:48 |
| mdbooth | Unless we don't, in which case we lose that functionality. | 14:48 |
| paul-carlton2 | I have no problem with some of the info in the db being hypervisor specific, like your new object | 14:48 |
| mdbooth | e.g. persistent device addressing, device ordering. | 14:48 |
| mdbooth | If we want this stuff to work under the direction we're currently taking, we need to implement everything libvirt does in Nova. | 14:48 |
| paul-carlton2 | all can be store in a hypervisor specific object in db | 14:48 |
| mdbooth | If we just create a domain, then use libvirt to manipulate it. | 14:49 |
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| tdurakov | please start ml thread for that, unfortunately we are limited in time on that meeting, let's switch to the next | 14:53 |
| mdbooth | libvirt is responsible for maintaining that and updating it. | 14:53 |
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| paul-carlton2 | by the wy Andrea Rosa said add apiimpact to rescused mighration | 14:53 |
| mdbooth | The other reason I bring it up is it would obsolete my persistent instance storage metadata spec | 14:53 |
| tdurakov | another spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301090/ | 14:53 |
| tdurakov | andreas_s: I think it's yours, right? | 14:53 |
| paul-carlton2 | he has left openstack work now so guess I can pull that if I want but you actually think he was right | 14:53 |
| andreas_s | tdurakov, yes | 14:53 |
| andreas_s | we're currently trying to get things on neutron side clear | 14:53 |
| andreas_s | https://review.openstack.org/309416 | 14:53 |
| tdurakov | haven't read it yet, do you have anything to discuss right now on the spec | 14:53 |
| andreas_s | that's why work on the Nova spec was layed aside for a while | 14:53 |
| mdbooth | johnthetubaguy: Did I see a spec from you about neutron apis, or am I getting confused with the cinder one? ^^^ | 14:53 |
| tdurakov | #action reiview https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301090/ | 14:53 |
| andreas_s | tdurakov, no - the big questions are on Neutron side that need to be solved - once that is in place (hopefully at the summit) we can follow up | 14:53 |
| tdurakov | andreas_s: acked | 14:53 |
| mdbooth | johnthetubaguy: nm, you're already reviewing it | 14:53 |
| tdurakov | any other specs? | 14:53 |
| tdurakov | then we have 5 minutes and | 14:54 |
| tdurakov | #topic Open discussion | 14:54 |
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| mdbooth | I put a meta-point on the agenda | 14:55 |
| mdbooth | Should we have a separate sub-team for the libvirt driver? | 14:55 |
| mdbooth | The overlap between this team and a libvirt driver sub-team would be significant, but not total. | 14:55 |
| tdurakov | mdbooth: I'd bring this up on nova weekly tbh | 14:55 |
| mdbooth | tdurakov: Ok, will do. Anybody here got a quick opinion on it, though? | 14:56 |
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| mdbooth | It would likely affect most people on this team. | 14:56 |
| tdurakov | mdbooth: I do not mind on that | 14:56 |
| tdurakov | so, lets wrap up | 14:58 |
| tdurakov | thanks everyone for coming | 14:58 |
| tdurakov | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 27 14:58:31 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-09-27-14.00.html | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-09-27-14.00.txt | 14:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-09-27-14.00.log.html | 14:58 |
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| * gothicmindfood peers into the meeting room | 15:00 | |
| gothicmindfood | any swg folks here? | 15:00 |
| ttx | o/ | 15:00 |
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| johnthetubaguy | o/ | 15:00 |
| gothicmindfood | word | 15:00 |
| gothicmindfood | #startmeeting swg | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 27 15:01:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gothicmindfood. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swg)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swg' | 15:01 |
| gothicmindfood | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SWGMeeting | 15:01 |
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| gothicmindfood | #topic Review Action items from last week | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action items from last week (Meeting topic: swg)" | 15:01 | |
| gothicmindfood | well, we don't have much in the way of action items | 15:02 |
| gothicmindfood | just me and ttx | 15:02 |
| gothicmindfood | ttx: yours sort of feeds into mine - how are we doing with spare space at the design summit? | 15:02 |
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| * gothicmindfood was hoping to get some time friday afternoon | 15:03 | |
| ttx | Looks like we don't have that many cross-project sessions beiung submitted, so we should be able to secure space there | 15:03 |
| gothicmindfood | where there are just fishbowls to grab, but would love a cross project session | 15:03 |
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| gothicmindfood | ttx: awesome, what are the time slot options for cross project? | 15:03 |
| ttx | On Friday afternoon there is no extra room, but there is a common room with loads of roundtables that we can commandeer | 15:03 |
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| gothicmindfood | ttx: yeah, I'm fine with friday being a more drop-in/casual thing | 15:03 |
| ttx | Cross-project is Tuesday evening and Wednesday morning / start of afternoon | 15:04 |
| ttx | WG are likely to be placed at the end (Wednesday early afternoon) | 15:04 |
| ttx | but we'll know more next week once the TC processes the requests | 15:04 |
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| gothicmindfood | ttx: so, we could have a cross project session that feeds into our panel discussion later in the day | 15:04 |
| gothicmindfood | that might be nice | 15:04 |
| gothicmindfood | any other opinions on that? | 15:04 |
| gothicmindfood | and is there a request in for us or do I have to submit one? | 15:05 |
| * gothicmindfood is happy to do so | 15:05 | |
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| ttx | it is submitted, see https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-cross-project-sessions | 15:05 |
| gothicmindfood | awesome | 15:05 |
| gothicmindfood | oh, I forgot courtesy ping | 15:06 |
| gothicmindfood | amrith, dhellmann, gothicmindfood, ttx, jroll, johnthetubaguy, sdague, mordred, carolbarrett, nikhil, mugsie, thingee, alexismonville, | 15:06 |
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| gothicmindfood | ^^ anyone have thoughts on a cross project session before our panel discussion? | 15:06 |
| gothicmindfood | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-cross-project-sessions | 15:07 |
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| gothicmindfood | hm. | 15:07 |
| * gothicmindfood hears crickets | 15:07 | |
| johnthetubaguy | sorry, I am +1 this | 15:08 |
| gothicmindfood | johnthetubaguy: :) sweet. thanks | 15:08 |
| gothicmindfood | anyone else? | 15:08 |
| mugsie | yeah - I think a cross project thing could be good | 15:09 |
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| mugsie | I am not sure how many people have been keeping up to date on this group | 15:09 |
| gothicmindfood | mugsie: me neither | 15:09 |
| ttx | yes, I think we'll be able to have that, at least I'll support it | 15:09 |
| gothicmindfood | ttx: awesome | 15:10 |
| gothicmindfood | okay - well, I guess we'll look forward to a finalized cross project session. | 15:10 |
| gothicmindfood | for the next, last meeting before Barcelona, I'd like to just go over some of the ideas we'll be going over in that, just so everyone who is attending is on the same page | 15:11 |
| gothicmindfood | #topic Discuss any documents that are available for review | 15:11 |
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| gothicmindfood | do we have any new reviews in flight, or any re-done ones we need to look at? | 15:12 |
| gothicmindfood | ttx: are the revised principles up now, for review? | 15:12 |
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| gothicmindfood | looks like a new-ish patch is up at #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357260/ | 15:13 |
| gothicmindfood | so that is worth a look | 15:14 |
| gothicmindfood | anything else? | 15:14 |
| * gothicmindfood is clearly holding this meeting in an empty room now | 15:14 | |
| johnthetubaguy | sorry, had a previous meeting I had to get out of | 15:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | thats the big patch thats in progress that I know of | 15:14 |
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| ttx | gothicmindfood: I hope we'll get it landed tonigth | 15:15 |
| gothicmindfood | johnthetubaguy: no worries :) I'm more missing dhellmann and mordred and amrith :) | 15:15 |
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| gothicmindfood | ttx: oh, awesome news! | 15:15 |
| ttx | and then propose changes as subsequent patches | 15:15 |
| * gothicmindfood will have movers coming this afternoon during the TC meeting but will try to keep abreast of it | 15:15 | |
| gothicmindfood | ttx: sounds great | 15:15 |
| gothicmindfood | ok - #topic Open Discussion | 15:16 |
| gothicmindfood | or | 15:16 |
| gothicmindfood | #topic Open Discussion | 15:16 |
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| gothicmindfood | thanks meetbot | 15:17 |
| gothicmindfood | anything else? | 15:17 |
| gothicmindfood | I know we dug into the salt-security thread a bit in channel last week | 15:17 |
| gothicmindfood | or the week before | 15:17 |
| * jroll sneaks in late | 15:18 | |
| gothicmindfood | but it sounds like lots of good stuff happened around resolving things at least, re: the security team | 15:18 |
| gothicmindfood | #link https://openstack-security.github.io/organization/2016/09/22/maturing-the-security-project.html | 15:18 |
| gothicmindfood | is a great roundup of what the security project is doing to help align themselves more with the openstack principles | 15:19 |
| gothicmindfood | jroll: welcome! | 15:19 |
| * gothicmindfood hands jroll a coffee | 15:19 | |
| * jroll chugs | 15:19 | |
| gothicmindfood | jroll: we are in open discussion already, since hardly anyone is here, so I'm trying not to talk to myself ;) | 15:19 |
| jroll | heh | 15:20 |
| jroll | yeah, I don't have anything to add :) | 15:20 |
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| gothicmindfood | jroll: it looks like we're gonna get a cross project session before our panel | 15:21 |
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| jroll | yep, I saw that, I'm excited :) | 15:21 |
| gothicmindfood | so I'd love to brainstorm in -swg about what topics we need to be ready to cover for folks | 15:21 |
| jroll | ++ | 15:21 |
| ttx | sounds good | 15:21 |
| gothicmindfood | but we can take it there and give me and you and johnthetubaguy and ttx 39 minutes back | 15:22 |
| gothicmindfood | :) | 15:22 |
| jroll | wfm, I like minutes | 15:22 |
| gothicmindfood | okay - if nothing else - have a great day, and I'll see everyone in a couple weeks | 15:22 |
| ttx | yay, first time this meeting ends before the other I run in parallel | 15:22 |
| jroll | :D | 15:22 |
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| * gothicmindfood makes a note to attempt to herd cats before the meeting more next time | 15:22 | |
| gothicmindfood | #endmeeting | 15:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:22 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 27 15:22:53 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:22 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swg/2016/swg.2016-09-27-15.01.html | 15:22 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swg/2016/swg.2016-09-27-15.01.txt | 15:22 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swg/2016/swg.2016-09-27-15.01.log.html | 15:23 |
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