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SridarK_ | Hi FWaas Folks | 04:02 |
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soichi | hi | 05:31 |
kaz_ | hello | 05:31 |
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soichi | #startmeeting taas | 05:32 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 16 05:32:41 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is soichi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:32 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:32 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:32 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'taas' | 05:32 |
soichi | hi | 05:32 |
kaz_ | hi | 05:32 |
soichi | anyone else? | 05:33 |
soichi | reedip? | 05:34 |
soichi | #topic "Open Discussion" | 05:35 |
*** openstack changes topic to ""Open Discussion" (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:35 | |
kaz_ | I submitted TaaS dashboard. | 05:37 |
kaz_ | Please review and check it. | 05:38 |
soichi | #link https://review.openstack.org/396022 | 05:38 |
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soichi | kaz: Yamamoto-san gave several review comments | 05:39 |
kaz_ | Yes | 05:40 |
kaz_ | I'm prepairing to submit an updated version. | 05:43 |
soichi | okay, thank you. | 05:47 |
soichi | if there is no more topic, i'd like to close today's meeting. | 05:48 |
soichi | i'd like to propose to skip next week IRC because of national holiday in Japan | 05:49 |
soichi | i will announce this on the mailing list | 05:50 |
soichi | #endmeeting | 05:51 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 05:51 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 16 05:51:05 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 05:51 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-11-16-05.32.html | 05:51 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-11-16-05.32.txt | 05:51 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-11-16-05.32.log.html | 05:51 |
soichi | bye | 05:51 |
kaz_ | bye | 05:51 |
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tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: got question on this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347161/4/specs/ocata/approved/live-migrate-rescued-instances.rst - we are not going to rpc.call for compute node to check that is supports rescued instances l-m, right? | 12:10 |
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johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: I don't think we should, need to think through that | 12:10 |
tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: because it's the thing I'm worried about | 12:11 |
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claudiub | #startmeeting hyper-v | 13:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 16 13:00:29 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is claudiub. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 13:00 |
claudiub | hellou | 13:00 |
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claudiub | anyone here for the meeting? | 13:01 |
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sagar_nikam | Hi | 13:04 |
claudiub | hello :) | 13:04 |
claudiub | was waiting for more people to join | 13:04 |
sagar_nikam | sorry bit late... my network went down | 13:05 |
sagar_nikam | sonu will join today | 13:05 |
claudiub | cool, shall we wait for him? | 13:05 |
sagar_nikam | we can start | 13:05 |
claudiub | ok | 13:06 |
sagar_nikam | he has some networking discussion... we can do it when he joins | 13:06 |
claudiub | #topic nova status | 13:06 |
*** openstack changes topic to "nova status (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:06 | |
claudiub | soo, the first ocata milestone is tomorrow | 13:06 |
claudiub | which means spec-freeze. that means that we can only propose new features until then. | 13:06 |
claudiub | the shielded vm spec is still up, unfortunately | 13:07 |
claudiub | and, I'd like to also get the hyper-v nested virtualization blueprint approved as well | 13:07 |
claudiub | i'll have to send a POC patch first, though. | 13:08 |
claudiub | I've already sent the patch needed for os-win | 13:08 |
sagar_nikam | ok | 13:08 |
claudiub | currently writing the nova bits | 13:08 |
claudiub | from the last summit discussion, the hyper-v nested virtualization blueprint doesn't need a spec | 13:09 |
claudiub | so, yeay. :) | 13:09 |
sagar_nikam | good | 13:09 |
claudiub | regarding the ovs vif plug patch, we're currently setting up the hyper-v ci to be able to run with ovs and neutron-ovs-agent instead of neutron-hyperv-agent | 13:10 |
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claudiub | once that's done, we'll post some ci results on the patch, and ping the nova core about the patch | 13:11 |
sagar_nikam | ok | 13:11 |
sagar_nikam | there were some BPs you/cloudbase proposed for the NFV usecase | 13:11 |
sagar_nikam | in last cycle... what happened to those | 13:12 |
claudiub | regarding the os-brick in the hyper-v driver (+ FC), it got some core review comments, they were addressed, waiting for other reviews | 13:12 |
sagar_nikam | ok... good | 13:12 |
claudiub | but, this week, i'm not expecting a lot of reviews, since the cores are concentrating on blueprints / spec reviews, as the deadline is tomorrow | 13:12 |
sagar_nikam | hopeful FC gets merged soon | 13:12 |
claudiub | yep | 13:12 |
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claudiub | sagar_nikam: regarding your question, there is the hyper-v vNUMA placement blueprint | 13:13 |
claudiub | which we've sent for review some time ago, and it is in compute-hyperv since mitaka, or liberty, if my memory doesn't fail | 13:13 |
sagar_nikam | correct.. this is the BP.. how is it going | 13:14 |
claudiub | it was reapproved for ocata | 13:14 |
claudiub | but no core reviews on the patch: | 13:14 |
sagar_nikam | ok | 13:14 |
claudiub | #link Hyper-V: Adds vNUMA implementation https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282407/ | 13:14 |
claudiub | the pci implementation got some reviews | 13:15 |
claudiub | which needs to be addressed | 13:16 |
sagar_nikam | ok | 13:16 |
claudiub | moving on | 13:17 |
claudiub | #topic monasca status | 13:17 |
*** openstack changes topic to "monasca status (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:17 | |
claudiub | so, one small patch merged since last week | 13:17 |
claudiub | got more comments, which i'll have to answer | 13:17 |
sagar_nikam | for which feature ? | 13:17 |
claudiub | got some merge conflicts, again. :) | 13:17 |
claudiub | sagar_nikam: this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359453/ | 13:18 |
claudiub | basically, it gets some performance counters from windows | 13:18 |
sagar_nikam | ok | 13:18 |
sagar_nikam | as on today... what shape is monasca+ hyperv... upstream | 13:19 |
sagar_nikam | what ever is merged | 13:19 |
sagar_nikam | can it be used ? | 13:19 |
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sagar_nikam | as is... | 13:19 |
sagar_nikam | or more patches need to be merged... before it can get used | 13:19 |
claudiub | yep, you can start monasca-agent on windows | 13:19 |
sagar_nikam | and does it send the data ? | 13:20 |
sagar_nikam | to monasca | 13:20 |
claudiub | let me check for a second | 13:20 |
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claudiub | checkers that have pending patches on monasca-agent: hyperv, cpu, disk; checkers that are working now: network, memory, process, host_alive | 13:23 |
claudiub | and i thought i've sent a patch for iis checker | 13:23 |
claudiub | oh yeah | 13:24 |
claudiub | iis works as well | 13:24 |
sagar_nikam | ok | 13:24 |
claudiub | it was included with the wmi_checker | 13:24 |
sagar_nikam | cpu and disk | 13:24 |
claudiub | the last link i've sent | 13:24 |
sagar_nikam | are important | 13:24 |
sagar_nikam | i think we need to get it merged at the earliest | 13:25 |
claudiub | the other checkers, i haven't tested them yet. there are more than 40 checkers in total. Roland was suggesting those, as those are most commonly used. | 13:25 |
claudiub | you can see how many checkers are here: https://github.com/openstack/monasca-agent/tree/master/conf.d | 13:26 |
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claudiub | any questions? | 13:27 |
sagar_nikam | agree... i think those are the important ones... especially the disk, cpu and memory | 13:27 |
sagar_nikam | no... we can move to next topic | 13:28 |
claudiub | #topic open discussion | 13:28 |
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claudiub | sagar_nikam: so, last week I've asked if there is someone from your team that can help with getting monasca-log working on windows | 13:29 |
sagar_nikam | yes... most of my team is also new to monasca | 13:29 |
sagar_nikam | monasca team is in US | 13:30 |
sagar_nikam | india team does not work on it | 13:30 |
sagar_nikam | anyhow let me try ... not sure though | 13:30 |
claudiub | i see | 13:31 |
claudiub | well, let me know when you find out. :) | 13:31 |
sagar_nikam | india team works on nova and neutron | 13:31 |
sagar_nikam | for hyperv | 13:31 |
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claudiub | have you tried hyper-v 2016 yet? | 13:31 |
sagar_nikam | sonu: are you there in the meeting ? | 13:32 |
sagar_nikam | claudiub: not yet | 13:32 |
sagar_nikam | we wanted to try nano... but did not proceed much | 13:32 |
sagar_nikam | as of now all our test systems are 2012 r2 | 13:32 |
claudiub | i see | 13:33 |
claudiub | do you have any plans to upgrade in the near future? | 13:33 |
sagar_nikam | we wanted it on atleast one machine... but could not do it | 13:34 |
sagar_nikam | due to various reasons | 13:34 |
sagar_nikam | as of now | 13:35 |
sagar_nikam | we support only 2012 r2 | 13:35 |
sagar_nikam | hence getting 2016 has been a challenge in test machines | 13:35 |
claudiub | hm, interesting | 13:35 |
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sagar_nikam | cloudbase supports 2016? | 13:36 |
claudiub | yep | 13:36 |
sagar_nikam | for nova and neutron | 13:36 |
sagar_nikam | ok | 13:36 |
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sagar_nikam | TP5 ? | 13:36 |
claudiub | that's been always a target, since it was officially announced | 13:36 |
claudiub | hyper-v 2016 has been released | 13:36 |
sagar_nikam | oh... missed that release announcement | 13:37 |
sagar_nikam | when was it released | 13:37 |
claudiub | you can already download it from microsoft's site: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-hyper-v-server-2016 | 13:38 |
claudiub | i think it was sometime around the openstack summit in barcelona | 13:38 |
claudiub | but yeah, we do support 2016. :) | 13:39 |
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claudiub | plus, we already have a few of the 2016's features in nova, like the upgraded support for remotefx | 13:39 |
sagar_nikam | ok | 13:39 |
sagar_nikam | may be for our next release we will try hyperv-2016 | 13:40 |
claudiub | cool :) | 13:40 |
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claudiub | any other news from your side? | 13:40 |
sagar_nikam | could you check the link i gave you last week on k8s on azure ? | 13:41 |
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claudiub | hm, wondering how they're dealing with container networking across different hosts. | 13:43 |
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sagar_nikam | and storage as well | 13:45 |
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sagar_nikam | even i was curious | 13:45 |
sagar_nikam | one more question which i had was... containers are only supported in 2016 | 13:45 |
claudiub | yep | 13:45 |
sagar_nikam | so does azure provision containers in 2016 ? | 13:45 |
sagar_nikam | and is it stable | 13:46 |
claudiub | that, i don't know :) | 13:46 |
sagar_nikam | that can be a good indication of its stability | 13:46 |
sagar_nikam | your team is not working with MS on this ? | 13:46 |
claudiub | yep, that's exactly my thought as well | 13:46 |
sagar_nikam | peter is not involved | 13:46 |
sagar_nikam | on containers ? | 13:47 |
sagar_nikam | from MS | 13:47 |
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claudiub | hm, i don't keep in touch with peter, only rarely | 13:48 |
sagar_nikam | ok | 13:48 |
claudiub | sagar_nikam: any news from sonu? | 13:48 |
sagar_nikam | he wanted to join | 13:49 |
sagar_nikam | he mentioned me today as well | 13:49 |
sagar_nikam | some networking discussion with you | 13:49 |
sagar_nikam | on ovs | 13:49 |
sagar_nikam | he is not in office | 13:49 |
claudiub | a bug, or? | 13:49 |
sagar_nikam | might have got struck in traffic | 13:49 |
sagar_nikam | i think he is planning to use ovs for our next release mostly probably based on mitaka or newton | 13:50 |
sagar_nikam | and wanted to discuss some things on it | 13:50 |
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claudiub | sounds good. :) | 13:51 |
sagar_nikam | i will request him to join next week.. or may be mail you abut it | 13:51 |
claudiub | well, he can drop me an email | 13:51 |
sagar_nikam | also if i remember right, we got the certification from MS on the OVS solution right ? | 13:51 |
claudiub | yep | 13:51 |
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sagar_nikam | Then i think we may mostly go with it for our next release | 13:53 |
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sagar_nikam | sonu can provide more info on it | 13:53 |
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claudiub | here's the link, where you can see the certification: https://www.windowsservercatalog.com/item.aspx?idItem=18117a8c-c7bf-f20c-9185-3a53117b9875&bCatID=1638 | 13:54 |
sagar_nikam | anything on cluster driver ? or it is down on priority | 13:54 |
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claudiub | well, they didn't approve it for ocata | 13:55 |
claudiub | which is sad | 13:55 |
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sagar_nikam | ok | 13:55 |
claudiub | so, it got a bit down in the priority list, as they won't merge it | 13:55 |
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claudiub | but at least it's merged in compute hyperv | 13:56 |
sagar_nikam | ok fine... | 13:56 |
sagar_nikam | time almost over | 13:56 |
sagar_nikam | nothing much from my side | 13:56 |
claudiub | well, i guess we can end the meeting now :) | 13:56 |
sagar_nikam | thanks | 13:57 |
claudiub | i'll be waiting for an email :) | 13:57 |
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claudiub | thanks for joining, see you next week! | 13:57 |
claudiub | #endmeeting | 13:57 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 16 13:57:55 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:57 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-11-16-13.00.html | 13:57 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-11-16-13.00.txt | 13:58 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-11-16-13.00.log.html | 13:58 |
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slaweq | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 14:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 16 14:01:38 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
slaweq | hello | 14:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos' | 14:01 |
ralonsoh | hi | 14:01 |
slaweq | I think we will wait few minutes for people | 14:02 |
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ralonsoh | I read ajo and njonshon are not going to attend | 14:02 |
davidsha | Hi | 14:02 |
slaweq | ralonsoh: I think ajo will be but later | 14:03 |
ajo | hi o/ ;) I was supposed to have a meeting which moved, but slaweq has been preparing the meeting, I'll let him do the honours, very grateful that you could help slaweq | 14:03 |
slaweq | ajo: thx | 14:03 |
slaweq | but I hope You will help me with it :) | 14:03 |
ajo | of course | 14:03 |
slaweq | ok, so can we start? | 14:03 |
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slaweq | or we are waiting for someone else? | 14:04 |
ralonsoh | go on, I think | 14:04 |
slaweq | ok | 14:04 |
slaweq | #topic RFEs-approved | 14:04 |
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slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1586056 | 14:04 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1586056 in neutron "[RFE] Improved validation mechanism for QoS rules with port types" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 14:04 |
slaweq | first rfe-approved | 14:04 |
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slaweq | it is still waiting for qos_notification refactor which ajo is doing: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351858/ | 14:05 |
ajo | oh, a note about this one | 14:05 |
slaweq | so I have nothing to add here | 14:05 |
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ajo | I'm abandoning that patch in favor of: | 14:05 |
ajo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396651/ | 14:06 |
ajo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396651/ | 14:06 |
ralonsoh | I'll review this patch today | 14:06 |
slaweq | ah, right, I forgot to change this link | 14:06 |
ralonsoh | ajo's patch | 14:06 |
davidsha | Same, is it meant to be work flow -1? | 14:06 |
ralonsoh | ajo: or is still wip? | 14:06 |
ajo | thanks ralonsoh I will submit a new version after meeting, I was cleaning some pep8's and also adressing https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1627749 partly, at the same time | 14:06 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1627749 in neutron "qos driver api can have better error handling" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Angel Ajo (mangelajo) | 14:06 |
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ralonsoh | I'll wait | 14:07 |
ajo | ralonsoh, next version will be ready (just missing testing changes) | 14:07 |
slaweq | ajo: I will also try to review it asap | 14:07 |
ajo | thank you ralonsoh & slaweq | 14:07 |
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slaweq | ok so moving on, next one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1560961 | 14:08 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1560961 in neutron "[RFE] Allow instance-ingress bandwidth limiting" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 14:08 |
slaweq | this one depends on extended validation so is also blocked by ajo's patch :) | 14:08 |
* ajo blocks the world ':] | 14:08 | |
slaweq | ajo: maybe not whole world but QoS part :P | 14:09 |
ralonsoh | as soon as ajo's patch is up, I'll review that too | 14:09 |
slaweq | I saw that https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1560963 is finished already | 14:09 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1560963 in neutron "[RFE] Minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,Fix released] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 14:09 |
slaweq | thx ralonsoh | 14:09 |
ajo | '':] | 14:09 |
ralonsoh | Minimum bandwidth support: SRIOV merged, LB under review!! | 14:10 |
ralonsoh | one sec | 14:10 |
ralonsoh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357865/ | 14:10 |
slaweq | I already reviewed this patch :) | 14:10 |
ralonsoh | slaweq is taking care of the reviews! thanks! | 14:10 |
ajo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357865/ | 14:10 |
ajo | oh right, and the OVS part was in WIP, is that correct? | 14:11 |
ralonsoh | yes... I don't know if I can implement it | 14:11 |
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ralonsoh | too many problems | 14:11 |
slaweq | ralonsoh: I think I can help You on that maybe | 14:11 |
ajo | ralonsoh, it got more complicated than expected? | 14:11 |
ralonsoh | and architecture issues | 14:11 |
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ralonsoh | yes, a lot of more | 14:11 |
ajo | ok, may be we can discuss that one for Pike and help | 14:11 |
ajo | lot of things in our plates | 14:12 |
ralonsoh | I agree | 14:12 |
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slaweq | ralonsoh: is there patch already on gerrit? | 14:12 |
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ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318531/ | 14:12 |
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ralonsoh | But WIP | 14:13 |
slaweq | and btw. I think that bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1560963 shouldn't be "fix released", am I right? | 14:13 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1560963 in neutron "[RFE] Minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,Fix released] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 14:13 |
ralonsoh | The initial spec was SRIOV only | 14:13 |
ralonsoh | We added LB and OVS | 14:13 |
ralonsoh | Go on, we can talk about this by mail | 14:14 |
slaweq | ok | 14:14 |
slaweq | so there is one more: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1578989 | 14:14 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1578989 in neutron "[RFE] Strict minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 14:14 |
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slaweq | which is not assigned to anyone yet | 14:15 |
ajo | I pushed a spec for this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396297/2 | 14:15 |
ajo | so we can discuss the technical details, and integration details with nova | 14:15 |
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slaweq | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396297/2 | 14:15 |
slaweq | ajo: ok, I will try to review it also | 14:15 |
ajo | we need to involve the nova guys to have a look on the integration details, and chunk it into work items. ralonsoh took one already | 14:15 |
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ralonsoh | About this spec: should we create new specs for sub-tasks? | 14:16 |
ajo | ralonsoh, no, you just reference the spec from your patches | 14:16 |
ralonsoh | ok, perfect | 14:16 |
davidsha | you could file a bug to expand it right? | 14:16 |
ajo | but we need a blueprint created for it | 14:16 |
ralonsoh | Yes, I think so | 14:16 |
ajo | I guess drivers could help with that. | 14:17 |
slaweq | yes, agree with blueprint | 14:17 |
ajo | amotoki, ^ | 14:17 |
slaweq | to aggregate all such patches | 14:17 |
amotoki | ajo: what? | 14:17 |
ajo | amotoki, : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396297/2 this is from an approved RFE https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1578989 | 14:17 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1578989 in neutron "[RFE] Strict minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 14:17 |
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ajo | we thought that the feature is complex and has many integration points with nova, | 14:17 |
ajo | so we thought a spec + blueprint fits it best | 14:18 |
ajo | can we get/or create ourselves the blueprint and keep rolling? | 14:18 |
amotoki | ajo: is there no corresponding blueprint? | 14:18 |
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ajo | amotoki, just the approved RFE, and the spec that we decided was useful to coordinate neutron/nova and work items | 14:18 |
amotoki | ajo: we can create a blueprint for an approved RFE if it needs a discussion or it require a lot of effort. | 14:19 |
ajo | amotoki, it's exactly that case | 14:19 |
amotoki | ajo: what can I help you? | 14:19 |
ajo | (lot multi-cycle effort and integration with nova) | 14:19 |
ajo | amotoki, can I go ahead and create the blueprint myself or should I get it asked in the drivers meeting? | 14:20 |
ajo | or may be create, and just mention it in driver's ? | 14:20 |
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amotoki | you can create a bp and let the driver team know so that they can assign a approver (= a sponsor) and set other fields. | 14:21 |
ajo | I can take the approver part | 14:21 |
ajo | ack, thanks amotoki | 14:21 |
ajo | #action ajo creates the blueprint and mentions it on drivers meeting | 14:21 |
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ralonsoh | thanks! | 14:22 |
slaweq | ok thx ajo | 14:22 |
amotoki | great! | 14:22 |
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ajo | thank you all | 14:22 |
slaweq | anything to add? | 14:22 |
slaweq | if not, we are going forward | 14:22 |
slaweq | #topic RFEs | 14:22 |
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slaweq | there is also 2 not approved rfe | 14:23 |
slaweq | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1505627 | 14:23 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1505627 in neutron "[RFE] QoS Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) Support" [Wishlist,Incomplete] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 14:23 |
slaweq | this one is quite old as I remember | 14:23 |
slaweq | reedip_: are You doing something with it? | 14:23 |
reedip_ | slaweq : Hi , I had a spec but its not yet complete | 14:24 |
reedip_ | its pretty slow | 14:24 |
davidsha | reedip_: do you have a link? | 14:24 |
reedip_ | davidsha : not yet, I have it in my own repo | 14:24 |
reedip_ | not in gerrit yet | 14:25 |
davidsha | reedip_: kk | 14:25 |
slaweq | so there is one more: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1634798 | 14:25 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1634798 in neutron "[RFE] Qos DSCP to vlan priority mapping" [Undecided,New] | 14:25 |
slaweq | which is new | 14:25 |
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slaweq | I think it should be discussed on drivers meeting, right? | 14:26 |
ajo | I wonder | 14:26 |
ajo | if this doesn't really need to be done | 14:26 |
davidsha | slaweq: its a resurrection of the vlan pcp one is it? | 14:26 |
ajo | or yes | 14:26 |
ajo | if what they mean is translating DSCP (send by the VM) into VLAN q priority | 14:27 |
ajo | because if what they mean is translating policies DSCP into VLAN q , they could just add a VLAN q rule, when we had that | 14:27 |
ajo | I'm going to ask in the RFE | 14:27 |
slaweq | ajo: You mean add new qos_rule type, right? | 14:28 |
davidsha | ajo: I think thats it. pcp is a 0-7 value if memeory serves so you would be matching on traffic classes I guess. | 14:28 |
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ajo | yes, davidsha and we also have the DEI bit (drp eligible indicator) | 14:29 |
ajo | drop | 14:29 |
ajo | but it's 3 bits, correct | 14:29 |
ajo | there was another RFE for that | 14:29 |
davidsha | kk, thanks. | 14:30 |
slaweq | so ajo will ask in RFE about details, right? | 14:30 |
ajo | done, asked | 14:31 |
slaweq | thx ajo | 14:31 |
slaweq | next topic is | 14:31 |
slaweq | #topic Bugs | 14:31 |
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slaweq | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1639186 | 14:32 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1639186 in neutron "qos max bandwidth rules not working for neutron trunk ports" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to Luis Tomas Bolivar (ltomasbo) | 14:32 |
slaweq | I don't know if owner of this bug is here | 14:32 |
slaweq | ltomasbo: is it Your bug? | 14:32 |
ajo | I believe ltomasbo is offline, travelling to Munich | 14:33 |
slaweq | ok, so next one | 14:33 |
ajo | I can update | 14:33 |
ajo | He was looking into max bw compatibility with trunk ports and subports | 14:34 |
ajo | and he found that subports can't be limited, because those are patch-port based | 14:34 |
ajo | ralonsoh, ^ I guess that rings a bell ':D | 14:34 |
ralonsoh | yes, I know | 14:34 |
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ajo | so he was looking into the posibility of having veths dynamically created for those cases | 14:34 |
ajo | but that would not work in the case of DPDK I believe | 14:34 |
ralonsoh | no, not in DPDK | 14:35 |
ajo | but it could be useful to the container use cases | 14:35 |
ajo | so, he's investigating | 14:35 |
ajo | (done) | 14:35 |
slaweq | thx ajo | 14:36 |
slaweq | next one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1616547 | 14:36 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1616547 in neutron "qos: rule api definition shouldn't include tenant_id" [Low,Incomplete] | 14:36 |
slaweq | I don't know if this is still valid | 14:36 |
ralonsoh | I thinks this is solved | 14:36 |
slaweq | I remember that some time ago there was some discussion about it | 14:36 |
ralonsoh | but I'll check | 14:36 |
slaweq | ralonsoh: thx | 14:36 |
slaweq | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1627749 | 14:36 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1627749 in neutron "qos driver api can have better error handling" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Angel Ajo (mangelajo) | 14:36 |
slaweq | I think ajo told at the beginning that he is working on it | 14:36 |
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slaweq | right ajo? | 14:37 |
slaweq | something to add here? | 14:37 |
ajo | yes, I'm chasing that as part of it, one sec let me push my current state | 14:37 |
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ajo | so we can show a link to what specifically I'm doing | 14:37 |
ajo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396651/5/neutron/services/qos/qos_plugin.py@84 | 14:38 |
ajo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396651/5/neutron/services/qos/qos_plugin.py@117 | 14:38 |
ajo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396651/5/neutron/services/qos/qos_plugin.py@141 | 14:39 |
ajo | etc .. | 14:39 |
ajo | at least with this, if one driver fails, (backend unavailable or something) | 14:39 |
ajo | we go on and notify the others | 14:39 |
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ajo | ideally we could revert the DB and the plugins that worked | 14:39 |
ajo | but... | 14:39 |
ajo | my thinking was | 14:39 |
slaweq | ok, so it's related to You "big blocker" patch :) | 14:39 |
ajo | what if the other drivers won't revert or fail to revert? | 14:40 |
ajo | lol | 14:40 |
ajo | big blocker patch is a good name for it :] | 14:40 |
slaweq | :D | 14:40 |
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reedip_ | Hi slaweq , is there an OpenstackCLient for Neutron QoS ? Was going through https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1640762 | 14:43 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1640762 in neutron "when I update a Qos policy, value of shared can not be changed to false from true" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 14:43 |
slaweq | reedip_ just goes to next one :) | 14:43 |
ajo | ralonsoh, is working hard on OSC :) | 14:43 |
slaweq | which I wanted to talk now | 14:43 |
slaweq | thx reedip_ | 14:43 |
ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352477/ | 14:43 |
reedip_ | lol | 14:43 |
ralonsoh | waiting for this | 14:43 |
ralonsoh | reviews, I mena | 14:44 |
ralonsoh | mean | 14:44 |
reedip_ | Ok, I will bring this up with the OSC :) | 14:44 |
reedip_ | Thanks for the patch though | 14:44 |
ralonsoh | thanks | 14:44 |
slaweq | I think I was fixing something like that in neutronclient some time ago | 14:44 |
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reedip_ | slaweq : which brings up the point that the above bug would be applicable only to NeutronClient , right ? | 14:44 |
slaweq | IMO only in Openstack client | 14:45 |
slaweq | it should be fixed in neutronclient | 14:45 |
ralonsoh | I agree | 14:45 |
slaweq | let me find my patches for that | 14:45 |
reedip_ | slaweq : but Neutronclient is deprecated. Should we focus there ? | 14:45 |
reedip_ | I would prefer focussing more on OSC migration | 14:45 |
slaweq | about OSC I will check it today and will try to fix it asap | 14:46 |
slaweq | I assigned me to this bug today because I remember that I was doing something like that for neutronclient some time ago | 14:47 |
slaweq | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327935/ | 14:47 |
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slaweq | this is it | 14:47 |
slaweq | reedip_: fine for You? | 14:47 |
reedip_ | slaweq : I just found the same patch :D | 14:48 |
slaweq | next bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1640767 | 14:48 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1640767 in neutron "Create a qos-policy , name attribute is necessary when using openstack command line interface, and it become non essential option when I use API or curl command to create" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 14:48 |
slaweq | I wanted to talk about this one | 14:48 |
reedip_ | slaweq : so -no-shared is different from the -shared option, so it means that the bug is expected .. | 14:48 |
reedip_ | slaweq : yes, that was another bug I was going to bring up :D | 14:49 |
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slaweq | reedip_: there is --no-shared option added if You want to update policy to be shared=False | 14:49 |
reedip_ | ok | 14:49 |
slaweq | it is like that instead of --shared=True or --shared=False | 14:49 |
slaweq | so about https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1640767 | 14:50 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1640767 in neutron "Create a qos-policy , name attribute is necessary when using openstack command line interface, and it become non essential option when I use API or curl command to create" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 14:50 |
slaweq | if You are creating QoS policy via OSC or neutronclient it must have name given | 14:50 |
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slaweq | but Neutron API not require it | 14:50 |
slaweq | so You can create policy without name for example with curl | 14:51 |
slaweq | and now question is: which way to fix it You preffer? fix OSC and neutronclient or change neutron API? | 14:51 |
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slaweq | ajo: what do You think about it? | 14:51 |
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ajo | hmm, | 14:51 |
ajo | we can also create ports without names | 14:51 |
ajo | or networks without names | 14:51 |
ralonsoh | It's fine. You can use the ID | 14:51 |
ralonsoh | But OSC won't allow this | 14:51 |
ajo | and just depend on the ID | 14:51 |
reedip_ | ralonsoh : I had a similar problem with aothr bug | 14:52 |
ajo | so I think there's nothing wrong with the API | 14:52 |
reedip_ | just a minute | 14:52 |
slaweq | for me it is something to fix on client side | 14:52 |
slaweq | but I wanted to ask about opinions | 14:52 |
ajo | ye, agreed | 14:52 |
ajo | yeah | 14:52 |
ralonsoh | Agree | 14:52 |
slaweq | ok, thx | 14:52 |
slaweq | reedip_: You wanted to add something? | 14:53 |
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slaweq | there is also new bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1637977 | 14:53 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1637977 in neutron "QoS API parameter name issue, max_burst_kbps should be max_burst_kbits?" [Undecided,New] | 14:53 |
ajo | hmm, we had that before | 14:54 |
ajo | may be in form of RFE | 14:54 |
slaweq | but I think it is something what I reported few months ago and what we decided to not touch because of problems with API versions | 14:54 |
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ajo | nothing we can do until the day we have microversioning for API | 14:54 |
slaweq | ajo: it was bug reported | 14:54 |
slaweq | so should we close it now? | 14:54 |
reedip_ | Hi, found this | 14:54 |
reedip_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250587/ | 14:54 |
reedip_ | I dont know, but I found amotoki's point a bit valid here | 14:54 |
reedip_ | comment# 4 | 14:54 |
slaweq | or postpone it? | 14:54 |
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ajo | it's a duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1507761 | 14:55 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1507761 in neutron "qos wrong units in max-burst-kbps option (per-second is wrong)" [Low,Won't fix] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 14:55 |
slaweq | ajo: exactly :) | 14:55 |
ajo | I marked it as duplicate | 14:55 |
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slaweq | ok, thx | 14:55 |
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reedip_ | slaweq, ajo , ralonsoh : I dont know if you got my earlier message | 14:56 |
ralonsoh | reedip_: yes | 14:56 |
ralonsoh | one sec | 14:56 |
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ralonsoh | reedip_ I need to read it slowly, not now | 14:57 |
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slaweq | yes, I will also read it later | 14:57 |
slaweq | #action read comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250587/ | 14:58 |
slaweq | ok, I think that this is all bugs | 14:58 |
slaweq | #topic Open discussion | 14:58 |
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slaweq | anyone have got anything else to add? | 14:58 |
ralonsoh | I'm ok | 14:58 |
slaweq | we have 2 minutes more I think | 14:58 |
reedip | damn problem with my home PC , sending the messages late | 14:58 |
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ajo | I agree with you reedip , api & client must match in capabilities | 14:59 |
reedip_ | just wanted to say that as per an earlier bug discussion with amotoki, as a convention, neutron CLI requires one required argument. | 14:59 |
reedip_ | If all options are optional in the API level and we have 'name' field, we usually use 'name' as a required parameter. | 14:59 |
ajo | but I guess it's not an easy fix on neutron client, may be | 14:59 |
slaweq | ok, thx everyone | 15:00 |
slaweq | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
reedip | ajo , I think keeping it a necessary attribute doesnt break any assumptions. | 15:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 16 15:00:37 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-11-16-14.01.html | 15:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-11-16-14.01.txt | 15:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-11-16-14.01.log.html | 15:00 |
ralonsoh | bye | 15:00 |
rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 16 15:00:52 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
slaweq | bye | 15:00 |
davidsha | thanks, cya | 15:00 |
rhochmuth | o/ | 15:01 |
koji | o/ | 15:01 |
arturbasiak | o/ | 15:01 |
witek | hello | 15:01 |
shinya_kwbt | o/ | 15:01 |
rhochmuth | Agenda has been posted at, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:01 |
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hosanai | o/ | 15:01 |
rhochmuth | OMG | 15:01 |
witek | :) | 15:01 |
rhochmuth | Agenda for Wednesday November 16, 2016 (15:00 UTC) | 15:01 |
rhochmuth | 1.Ocata-1 milestone | 15:01 |
rhochmuth | 2.Ocata Community Goals Acknowledgement | 15:01 |
rhochmuth | 1.http://governance.openstack.org/goals/ocata/remove-incubated-oslo-code.html | 15:01 |
rhochmuth | 3.confluent-kafka-python for monasca-common (next to kafka-python) | 15:01 |
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rhochmuth | And the award for the longest agenda every goes to team Monasca | 15:01 |
tomasztrebski | o/ | 15:01 |
tomasztrebski | flowers, fame and glory ... :D | 15:02 |
rhochmuth | We might as well get started | 15:02 |
rhochmuth | #topic Ocata-1 milestone | 15:02 |
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witek | tomorrow is Ocata 1st milestone | 15:02 |
witek | should we tag the repos? | 15:03 |
rhochmuth | Sure, sounds like a good idea | 15:03 |
witek | ok, I'll take care | 15:03 |
rhochmuth | There are already features, like the dimension names/values that are not in the python-monascaclient | 15:03 |
rhochmuth | which we should get tagged so when devstack builds at least they show up | 15:04 |
rhochmuth | thanks witek | 15:04 |
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rhochmuth | i guess that is it on that topic | 15:04 |
rhochmuth | #topic Ocata Community Goals Acknowledgement | 15:04 |
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witek | we should acknowledge community-wide goals for Ocata | 15:05 |
witek | there is one actually | 15:05 |
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tomasztrebski | ? | 15:05 |
witek | Remove Copies of Incubated Oslo Code | 15:05 |
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tomasztrebski | I guess that was a problem only for client | 15:05 |
tomasztrebski | which was already mergde | 15:05 |
tomasztrebski | *merged | 15:05 |
rhochmuth | so, i'm not aware of any copies of oslo code anymore | 15:06 |
rhochmuth | so, are we good on that one? | 15:06 |
rhochmuth | is there a link i should be referring too? | 15:06 |
witek | ok, I'll update the wiki page then | 15:06 |
tomasztrebski | AFAIK we are, according to announcement only client was listed by OS as sth we need to fix | 15:06 |
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witek | yes, it seems we're ok on that one | 15:08 |
rhochmuth | is there something we need to address with the announcemtn | 15:08 |
rhochmuth | i didnt' see it | 15:08 |
witek | http://governance.openstack.org/goals/ocata/remove-incubated-oslo-code.html | 15:09 |
witek | there is that wiki page | 15:09 |
witek | monasca Planning Artifacts: Completion Artifacts: | 15:09 |
rhochmuth | i don't see anythign listed | 15:10 |
rhochmuth | for monasca | 15:10 |
rhochmuth | is there anything to do, should a completion artificat be listed | 15:11 |
rhochmuth | or are we basically done | 15:11 |
witek | I'm not sure | 15:11 |
witek | we could put links to completed reviews | 15:12 |
tomasztrebski | +1 | 15:12 |
rhochmuth | sounds like busy work | 15:12 |
witek | there were just 3, right? | 15:12 |
tomasztrebski | yeah | 15:12 |
tomasztrebski | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:merged+project:openstack/python-monascaclient+branch:master+topic:goal-remove-incubated-oslo-code | 15:13 |
rhochmuth | ok, i could update that page, unless you want to witek | 15:15 |
witek | you decide :) | 15:15 |
rhochmuth | i'll look into it | 15:16 |
witek | thanks | 15:16 |
rhochmuth | see what is involved | 15:16 |
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rhochmuth | #topic confluent-kafka-python | 15:16 |
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rhochmuth | is it really like 10X faster? | 15:16 |
tomasztrebski | according to the document | 15:17 |
rhochmuth | i would be all for an upgrade | 15:17 |
witek | at least in single node conf | 15:17 |
tomasztrebski | we did not move with investigating/writing any code, we wanted to clarify if monasca would be interested in this | 15:17 |
rhochmuth | yes interested | 15:17 |
rhochmuth | need to have joe look at this | 15:18 |
witek | it is not listed in global-requirements | 15:18 |
rhochmuth | he's been measuring and followign the client that we are using | 15:18 |
tomasztrebski | we don't have that much time to work on this, but code is WIP to make monasca-common using that library next to exisiting kafka-python | 15:18 |
rhochmuth | the main reason for not upgrading is that they had some issues | 15:18 |
tomasztrebski | everything would depend on actual kafka library installed | 15:18 |
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tomasztrebski | so the transition if any would be smooth and not enforced | 15:19 |
tomasztrebski | plus all would end with new gate job for monasca plugin that would stack up everything with confluent-kafka | 15:19 |
rhochmuth | so, could back out if there were issues? | 15:19 |
tomasztrebski | that's the rough plan for this | 15:19 |
tomasztrebski | actually you wouldn't need to back up | 15:19 |
rhochmuth | have you don't any analysis of the api or persister | 15:19 |
tomasztrebski | no, not yet | 15:20 |
rhochmuth | i'm assuming you want this for both metrics and logging | 15:20 |
witek | python persister is 3x slowlier than java | 15:20 |
tomasztrebski | doing this in monasca-common would have potential impact (good one) on every project using that | 15:20 |
rhochmuth | so, are we using monasca-common for kafka everywhere at this point? | 15:21 |
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tomasztrebski | ehm...I thought so, actually now that you asked I am not really sure | 15:21 |
tomasztrebski | log-api is using that for sure | 15:21 |
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rhochmuth | joe was running into crashes with the latest kafka client | 15:22 |
rhochmuth | not sure if those have been resovled | 15:22 |
rhochmuth | but this would obviousely bypass that | 15:22 |
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rhochmuth | would you want to update global requirements? | 15:22 |
rhochmuth | we might run into problems there | 15:23 |
tomasztrebski | with confluent-kafka ? | 15:23 |
rhochmuth | correct | 15:23 |
tomasztrebski | that might be problematic, because it requires compiling one C-library | 15:23 |
rhochmuth | my assumption is that they won't want two kafka libraries | 15:23 |
tomasztrebski | rdkafka | 15:23 |
witek | what are the requirements to get added to global-requirements? | 15:23 |
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tomasztrebski | add change to one infra projet and see how it goes ? :D | 15:24 |
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rhochmuth | usually nice well supported python code which is properly licenses | 15:24 |
rhochmuth | and doesnt' compete with an existing library | 15:24 |
rhochmuth | industry adoption | 15:24 |
witek | the second one is not the case here | 15:24 |
rhochmuth | performance would be another criteria | 15:25 |
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rhochmuth | so, we got ujson in | 15:25 |
witek | it is also relatively new | 15:25 |
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rhochmuth | which compete with json and simplejson | 15:25 |
tomasztrebski | both are based on Apache, but I would not go that far right now, I mean first we should clarify if the API of the confluent-kafka-python meets all the requirements that monasca presents | 15:25 |
rhochmuth | so, it might be accepted based on the performance analysis | 15:25 |
rhochmuth | but i expect it will be questioned | 15:25 |
tomasztrebski | performance on one side, but the capabilities on the other | 15:25 |
rhochmuth | right | 15:25 |
rhochmuth | so, i'll let you guys drive that | 15:26 |
rhochmuth | i wasnt' looking at reviews for a few days | 15:26 |
rhochmuth | so, little behind | 15:26 |
tomasztrebski | ok, guess now we will need to discuss that internally and give feedback from your feedback and plan that somehow | 15:26 |
rhochmuth | sure | 15:27 |
rhochmuth | shoudl we move on | 15:27 |
tomasztrebski | +1 | 15:27 |
rhochmuth | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366024/ | 15:27 |
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rhochmuth | migrate devstack to xenial | 15:27 |
shinya_kwbt | there are vagrant problem. | 15:28 |
tomasztrebski | one of our (mine, Witek) folks tested this recently for both Java&Python | 15:28 |
tomasztrebski | it stacks up with workaround | 15:28 |
rhochmuth | what was the work-around? | 15:28 |
tomasztrebski | shinya_kwbt: problem you have can be solved with starting up machine without provision and than creating one snapshot | 15:29 |
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shinya_kwbt | I solved with that | 15:30 |
shinya_kwbt | 1. vagrant up --no-provision && vagrant halt 2. open virtualbox gui 3. open target vm settings and change storage controller from SCSI to SATA 4. vagrant up | 15:30 |
tomasztrebski | so instead of vagrant destroy -f ; vagrant up for clean install, you would do vagrant sandbox rollback ; vagrant provision | 15:30 |
witek | I have also tested with bento box, but it exited on smoke tests | 15:30 |
tomasztrebski | assuming using vagrant-sahara | 15:30 |
shinya_kwbt | witek: me either | 15:30 |
shinya_kwbt | not vagrant environment works fine so I think tempest-gate may work | 15:31 |
tomasztrebski | I assume so too, looking at other projects that already moved to xenial | 15:32 |
tomasztrebski | @witek actually created a change that would result in NV gate for ubuntu-xenial | 15:32 |
tomasztrebski | we would see any issues with that prior to merging shinya_kwbt change | 15:33 |
tomasztrebski | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397789/ | 15:33 |
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rhochmuth | so, that review looks like is should be merged | 15:35 |
rhochmuth | as it is experimental | 15:35 |
witek | yes | 15:35 |
witek | for agent, non-voting | 15:35 |
rhochmuth | then we can see if shinya's merge works | 15:35 |
witek | the rest experimental | 15:35 |
witek | I hope it works this way :) | 15:35 |
shinya_kwbt | rhochmuth: thanks | 15:35 |
rhochmuth | then we can see if shinya's review works | 15:35 |
rhochmuth | and if it does, it can be merged | 15:35 |
rhochmuth | then can change from experimental | 15:36 |
witek | correct | 15:36 |
rhochmuth | although Vagrant will still be partly broken | 15:36 |
rhochmuth | with xenial | 15:36 |
rhochmuth | after shinya's change merges if i understand correctly | 15:37 |
shinya_kwbt | Yes virtual box SCSI controller has problem. Trusty image has SATA controller but xenial has SCSI. | 15:37 |
rhochmuth | those bastards | 15:37 |
witek | vagrant is still an issue, but I think we can merge it if gate tests pass | 15:37 |
tomasztrebski | well we could try and try to solve that to make vagrant work on trusty still, I have at least one idea for that | 15:37 |
tomasztrebski | or two | 15:37 |
rhochmuth | :-) | 15:37 |
tomasztrebski | ;-) | 15:37 |
rhochmuth | thanks tomasz | 15:38 |
rhochmuth | so, i'm going to put a +1 on your experimental review witek | 15:38 |
rhochmuth | then we can watch what happens next | 15:38 |
tomasztrebski | don't thank me now...not really sure if I will find any time to devote any time to that | 15:38 |
witek | thank you | 15:38 |
rhochmuth | welcome | 15:39 |
rhochmuth | done | 15:39 |
rhochmuth | thanks witek and shinya! | 15:39 |
rhochmuth | adn tomasz and everyone | 15:39 |
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shinya_kwbt | thanks tomasz witek | 15:40 |
rhochmuth | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384128/ | 15:40 |
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rhochmuth | tomasz, that is you | 15:41 |
rhochmuth | Granular logging control | 15:41 |
tomasztrebski | it just to remind to take a look, already have monasca-api and monasca-log-api working with new logging configuration, so it would just supplement what has been already done in that topic | 15:41 |
tomasztrebski | agent and notification components are not that easy to refactor it to work with oslo.log | 15:42 |
rhochmuth | ok, looks fine to me | 15:42 |
tomasztrebski | not to mention that it would be like revolution there instead of simple refactor | 15:42 |
rhochmuth | but i should look at it a little closer | 15:42 |
tomasztrebski | np | 15:42 |
rhochmuth | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391576/ | 15:42 |
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tomasztrebski | also me | 15:43 |
rhochmuth | it is failing | 15:43 |
rhochmuth | but, i think it is a good idea | 15:43 |
tomasztrebski | yeah and it will, because it requires gate change | 15:43 |
tomasztrebski | this is not like zookeeper change I posted sometime ago | 15:43 |
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tomasztrebski | zookeeper is builtin inside the devstack | 15:44 |
tomasztrebski | kafka is a yet another plugin | 15:44 |
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tomasztrebski | but if you find it a good idea, I will work on this in my free time | 15:44 |
rhochmuth | the only issue i have is that we might want to consdier upgradign to the newest kafka | 15:44 |
rhochmuth | 0.10.1 or later | 15:45 |
tomasztrebski | we might go with another gate with would be NV and use newer kafka | 15:45 |
tomasztrebski | luckily version of kafka is part of plugin/settings so can be overidden in gate setup | 15:46 |
tomasztrebski | plugin also specify such variables AFAIK | 15:46 |
rhochmuth | well, in general then i think it is a good idea | 15:46 |
rhochmuth | what other projects are using kafka? | 15:46 |
rhochmuth | do you know | 15:46 |
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tomasztrebski | no idea | 15:47 |
tomasztrebski | :( | 15:47 |
rhochmuth | the problem is that the kafka releases are incompatible | 15:47 |
rhochmuth | so, i think you are approved tomasz to proceed if you want to | 15:48 |
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rhochmuth | i can't see any problems | 15:48 |
rhochmuth | seems like we are covered | 15:48 |
rhochmuth | if we want to upgrade | 15:48 |
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tomasztrebski | i will figure sth out ;), at least working on using plugin in monasca and/or new gate | 15:49 |
rhochmuth | ok, thanks | 15:49 |
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rhochmuth | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395246/ | 15:49 |
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rbak | These two are mine | 15:49 |
tomasztrebski | witek: the same gate should be done also to the log-api devstack jobs | 15:50 |
rbak | Just trying to get some attention on them | 15:50 |
rbak | We're trying to backfill data, but we're blocked by lacking these abilities | 15:50 |
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rhochmuth | so, does anyone have any opinions on those two reviews | 15:51 |
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tomasztrebski | yeah, just posted one ;d | 15:52 |
rhochmuth | i thought about the backfill problem | 15:52 |
rhochmuth | wasn't sure if this should just be a admin feature | 15:52 |
rbak | It's not something we would want to expose to customers | 15:53 |
rhochmuth | was wondering since it isn't in python, if it shoudl be added | 15:53 |
rbak | Although we could tie it to a brand new role | 15:53 |
rhochmuth | "backfill" role | 15:53 |
rhochmuth | sounds a bit combersome | 15:53 |
rhochmuth | complicated | 15:53 |
rbak | tomasztrebski: I'm not sure I follow your comment on that patch, can you elaborate? | 15:53 |
tomasztrebski | AFAIK, we should not go into role mores, I would consider moving to policies...I know that is a lot of work but there is a reason why there's a dedicated oslo library for that | 15:54 |
rbak | rhochmuth: Yeah, we just went with the cleanest solution for the moment. | 15:54 |
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rhochmuth | yeah, the problem is that java code doesn't support oslo | 15:54 |
tomasztrebski | ahhh....java ;/ | 15:55 |
rhochmuth | but getting the python code to implement the rbac like the rest of openstack would be good | 15:55 |
rhochmuth | been on the list forever | 15:55 |
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tomasztrebski | so in case of +1 for policies that would require extra work for java | 15:55 |
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rhochmuth | anyway, i thought about this a bit | 15:56 |
rhochmuth | whether the right direction | 15:56 |
rhochmuth | i can't see any problems with what is being proposed in the review | 15:56 |
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rhochmuth | and, it sounds like we don't want to do anything with the python code for this case | 15:56 |
rhochmuth | right? | 15:56 |
rbak | Not for the moment anyway. | 15:57 |
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rhochmuth | should we move to #openstack-monasca? | 15:59 |
rhochmuth | we are at the end of the hour slot | 15:59 |
witek | I would prefer to move the rest to next week | 15:59 |
tomasztrebski | uh...I won't be able to join, got to go out | 15:59 |
tomasztrebski | me too | 16:00 |
rhochmuth | i won't be around next week | 16:00 |
tomasztrebski | what can be covered in gerrit, let's cover it there | 16:00 |
rhochmuth | ok, see you in two weeks | 16:00 |
tomasztrebski | bye | 16:00 |
rhochmuth | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
shinya_kwbt | thanks bye | 16:00 |
witek | bye | 16:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 16 16:00:37 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
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openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-11-16-15.00.html | 16:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-11-16-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-11-16-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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eglute | #startmeeting defcore | 16:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 16 16:01:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglute. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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markvoelker | o/ | 16:01 |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'defcore' | 16:01 |
catherine_d|1 | o/ | 16:01 |
shamail | o/ | 16:01 |
eglute | #chair markvoelker | 16:01 |
openstack | Current chairs: eglute markvoelker | 16:01 |
hogepodge | o/ (from SuperComputing 16) | 16:01 |
eglute | #chair hogepodge | 16:01 |
openstack | Current chairs: eglute hogepodge markvoelker | 16:01 |
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eglute | Hello Everyone! | 16:01 |
eglute | #topic agenda | 16:01 |
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eglute | please review the agenda for today: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreRoble.3 | 16:01 |
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eglute | #topic meeting time | 16:02 |
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GheRivero | o/ | 16:03 |
eglute | with all the travel, conferences and time changes, we missed a couple last meetings. With the time change, does this time still work for everyone? | 16:03 |
markvoelker | This timeslot continues to be fine for me. | 16:03 |
eglute | works for me as well :) | 16:03 |
markvoelker | And FWIW, I plan on being available next week--leaving for Thanksgiving almost right after this meeting though. =) | 16:03 |
hogepodge | works for me | 16:03 |
shamail | +1 | 16:03 |
gema | o/ | 16:04 |
catherine_d|1 | I would prefer it to be one hour later ... but will try to attend at the current time | 16:04 |
hogepodge | Same for me on American Thanksgiving holiday, despite my travel unavailability over the last month. I need a holiday. | 16:04 |
gema | being thanksgiving next week maybe we should cancel and discuss the time for the week after | 16:04 |
eglute | catherine_d|1 noted about one hour later... lets see what others say | 16:05 |
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eglute | gema good suggestion | 16:05 |
catherine_d|1 | eglute: thank you | 16:05 |
gema | one hour later works for me also probably better | 16:06 |
eglute | i can be around next week, but seems like some will be out. | 16:06 |
eglute | gema noted! | 16:06 |
markvoelker | An hour later would actually be challenging for me... | 16:06 |
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eglute | #action discuss meeting time change after next week | 16:06 |
eglute | markvoelker we need you at this meeting, so lets see how things look in a couple weeks | 16:07 |
hogepodge | I prefer to keep the UTC time, since changing it twice a year is a pain. | 16:07 |
eglute | hogepodge agreed.. | 16:07 |
hogepodge | Most projects don't move their meeting time from what I understand. | 16:07 |
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dmellado | o/ | 16:07 |
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eglute | ok... so just to get consensus on next week | 16:08 |
eglute | +1 if we should cancel next week | 16:08 |
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gema | +1 | 16:08 |
shamail | +1 | 16:08 |
hogepodge | +1 | 16:08 |
catherine_d|1 | +1 | 16:08 |
dmellado | +1 | 16:08 |
markvoelker | +0 (fine either way) | 16:08 |
kgarloff | +0 | 16:09 |
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eglute | +0 for me as well, but canceling seems to win | 16:09 |
luzC | o/ | 16:09 |
eglute | #agreed no meeting next week | 16:09 |
eglute | #topic Flag volume_from_snapshot test from 2016.08 | 16:10 |
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eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385216/ | 16:10 |
markvoelker | This one is abandoned | 16:10 |
eglute | oh, i am too slow! | 16:11 |
eglute | i guess we are good then | 16:11 |
eglute | #topic 2017.01 Guideline | 16:11 |
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eglute | shamail do you have an update on cinder? | 16:11 |
shamail | Hi eglute, I do not. I had to leave the summit early and didn’t check the etherpad yet. I will work on this update later this week and early next week (if needed). | 16:12 |
eglute | thanks shamail | 16:12 |
eglute | Moving on to swift | 16:13 |
shamail | you’re welcome | 16:13 |
eglute | I started breaking out the patch i had originally submitted | 16:13 |
eglute | new patch for new capabilities: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398428/ | 16:13 |
eglute | i am not sure how to handle some of the things, like consolidating existing capabilites | 16:14 |
eglute | one of them is that | 16:14 |
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eglute | also, one renamed capability | 16:14 |
eglute | and one brand new one | 16:15 |
eglute | i scored others as well, as suggested by ptl | 16:15 |
eglute | please review my scoring :) | 16:15 |
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eglute | i still have to submit a patch with new tests that were suggested, i will work on that today | 16:16 |
* markvoelker plans to work on that this week now that post-summit stuff has calmed down | 16:16 | |
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eglute | thanks markvoelker... catching up after this summit has been really hard | 16:16 |
markvoelker | yup | 16:17 |
eglute | any comments on swift? or ideas how to handle renames for capabilities? or suggestions on adding new tests to capabilities? | 16:17 |
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markvoelker | eglute: none off the cuff, but I may once I get a chance to look at it more (probably tomorrow) | 16:18 |
eglute | thanks markvoelker! | 16:18 |
eglute | if no comments on swift, can move to nova | 16:19 |
eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385781/ | 16:19 |
eglute | thanks luzC for reviewing it | 16:19 |
hogepodge | this has been the busiest I've even been after a summit, and I've done very little defcore work outside of logo and test admin | 16:19 |
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hogepodge | MT will be catchup days for me on 2017.01 reviews | 16:20 |
eglute | hogepodge i understand! I been slow to catch up as well | 16:20 |
eglute | there are some good comments on the nova patch | 16:21 |
eglute | thanks shamail for submitting it | 16:21 |
markvoelker | One thing I noted in that review was the comment about AZ's, which I think has some merit | 16:22 |
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markvoelker | I need to go look at those tests a bit, but seems like lisitng AZ's is sound addition. | 16:22 |
eglute | agree... also new capabilities need to be as advisory first | 16:22 |
shamail | I can remove list-api-versions since it is already added. I scored it again because I was unfamiliar with the process. | 16:22 |
eglute | also, i think the compute-flavors-list was already there at some point. i think i said i would look into it and never did | 16:23 |
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shamail | The reason I added them was because they have been around for multiple releases (I assumed advisory for newly added functionality, not capabilities guidelines) | 16:23 |
markvoelker | shamail: I think it's fine...sometimes scores change over time, so it's perfectly fine to update them | 16:23 |
shamail | but happy to change that as well | 16:23 |
shamail | Do all new guidelines go through advisory first? (asking for my own benefit) | 16:24 |
eglute | yes | 16:24 |
shamail | Okay :) | 16:24 |
shamail | Will update | 16:24 |
eglute | well, they should. | 16:24 |
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eglute | except in swift case, i have one where it is a rename or something like that. still a grey area on that one | 16:25 |
eglute | until we decide what to do :) | 16:25 |
eglute | #action eglute research what happened to compute-flavors-list | 16:26 |
eglute | everyone, please review nova patch | 16:26 |
markvoelker | Is it grey? We're explicitly allowed to change groupings. http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/defcore/tree/doc/source/process/2016A.rst#n71 | 16:26 |
eglute | oh, that helps! thanks markvoelker! | 16:26 |
eglute | any other comments on nova? | 16:27 |
eglute | if not, moving on to heat | 16:28 |
eglute | catherine_d|1 gema and I met with the Heat team in Barcelona | 16:28 |
eglute | Heat is considering moving Gabbi tests: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348076/ | 16:28 |
eglute | Problem: Tempest currently does not support Gabbi, so additional delay. | 16:29 |
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eglute | All tests will be new, so would have to go through the "stable test" period. Suggestion: add them as advisory before they are considered "stable" for 2 cycles, and potentially keep them for advisory 2-3 cycles. | 16:29 |
eglute | these were my notes from that meeting | 16:29 |
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eglute | catherine_d|1 gema please add or correct if i missed anything | 16:29 |
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eglute | but basically, heat doesnt look good | 16:30 |
eglute | for adding them soon | 16:30 |
catherine_d|1 | eglute: yea looks like that is the case | 16:30 |
catherine_d|1 | Just one note that with Gabbi .. these would be pure API tests ... | 16:31 |
eglute | i think that would be ok | 16:31 |
markvoelker | And currently still planned for in-heat-tree vs in-tempest-tree, right? | 16:31 |
eglute | gabbi would help with the in tempest tree part | 16:31 |
catherine_d|1 | it will be in-heat tree with tempest plugin interface first | 16:32 |
markvoelker | Ok, so as things currently stand with the TC they'd still be hard to consider anyway... | 16:32 |
catherine_d|1 | Once test are in Tempest plug-in interface moving to Tempest would be easy | 16:33 |
hogepodge | the idea was that tests would move only when required | 16:33 |
eglute | i think once they have gabbi tests, we can consider them when they are still in plugin, with the understanding that they would move the tests | 16:33 |
hogepodge | per conversation with dhellmann at summit | 16:34 |
catherine_d|1 | hogepodge: exactly .. that is why all new tests development will be in-tree with plug-in implementation first | 16:34 |
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hogepodge | so start with plug in and move tests if added to defcore | 16:34 |
markvoelker | sounds good | 16:34 |
catherine_d|1 | hogepodge: yup | 16:34 |
eglute | any other comments on heat? | 16:35 |
catherine_d|1 | I am good | 16:35 |
eglute | thanks catherine_d|1! | 16:35 |
eglute | moving on to keystone | 16:35 |
eglute | hogepodge, did you have a chance to look at it? | 16:36 |
hogepodge | eglute: no, I can give it attention starting Monday | 16:36 |
eglute | thanks hogepodge! | 16:36 |
markvoelker | I've got a couple of candidates from the PTL...it's late, but I can probably push a scoring patch this week if folks can review it | 16:36 |
hogepodge | yes please. | 16:36 |
eglute | markvoelker that would be good! | 16:36 |
markvoelker | It will be fairly short, so not hard to review. =) | 16:37 |
eglute | :) | 16:37 |
eglute | Neutron: patch was merged, thanks markvoelker! | 16:37 |
markvoelker | Basically list user's groups, list user's projects, change user's password, and show user I think. | 16:37 |
eglute | sounds good! | 16:37 |
eglute | Glance: markvoelker did you have a chance to look at it? | 16:38 |
markvoelker | Yeah, I talked this over with some Glance folks. I don't think we're going to have a lot of additions here, but a little housekeeping might be in order | 16:38 |
eglute | works for me! | 16:38 |
markvoelker | E.g. we have a few places where we say something like "v1 API is SUPPORTED but not the CURRENT version"...but v1 is now DEPRECATED | 16:38 |
markvoelker | That should be a pretty trivial patch, which I can probably also push this week | 16:39 |
eglute | oh yeah, def. need to do something about that | 16:39 |
eglute | thanks markvoelker | 16:39 |
eglute | any other comments/updates on 2017.01 guideline? | 16:40 |
eglute | #topic Name change | 16:40 |
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eglute | markvoelker shamail hogepodge any updates? | 16:41 |
hogepodge | I need to check with fungi about the mailing list. | 16:41 |
hogepodge | I ran it by him at the summit, and need to follow up. | 16:41 |
shamail | None, but I think the note in the etherpad is worth mentioning | 16:42 |
fungi | yep, i promised to show you what file to propose a change to | 16:42 |
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shamail | Please switch to the #openstack-interop channel if you haven’t already done so | 16:42 |
eglute | thanks shamail | 16:42 |
shamail | hogepodge: can you also ask about the Wiki? | 16:42 |
eglute | thanks hogepodge and fungi | 16:42 |
hogepodge | The procedure there would be to set up new mailing list, send an announcement to everyone on current list to move, then shut down old list by removing all membership and leaving the archive intact. | 16:42 |
shamail | There is a copy option but I didn’t want to try it without asking | 16:42 |
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markvoelker | We had discussed a goal to get all the wheels in motion on the name change by the end of the year IIRC. So I plan on taking this up a bit more once I get 2017.01 cleared off my plate. | 16:43 |
markvoelker | I know I've got a few AI's outstanding, and have patchwork started on a couple of them | 16:43 |
shamail | The meeting doesn’t really need to change (besides the name)… I can submit that patch soon too | 16:43 |
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hogepodge | December seems like a good month to finish it off, and aligns with the schedule I had in my mind. | 16:43 |
eglute | hogepodge can the subscribers be copied to the new mailing list? | 16:43 |
shamail | The gerrit and git repo changes are probably the ones you want to handle markvoelker | 16:44 |
markvoelker | shamail: yep, on my list | 16:44 |
hogepodge | eglute: I don't believe so. The general policy for mailings is opt-in | 16:44 |
shamail | Not that I am aware of eglute (we are going through the same task in Product WG) | 16:44 |
shamail | As admins, you can seee the current subscribers but cant subscribe them | 16:44 |
fungi | yeah, it's a question of whether you can vs whether you should | 16:44 |
shamail | my recommendation would be to get the list of current subscribers and send them a BCC’d note informing them about the change and a link to sign up | 16:45 |
shamail | a one time notification/heads up isn’t overkill | 16:45 |
hogepodge | shamail: The change info will go out to all subscribers, so everyone will be notified. | 16:45 |
shamail | good point | 16:45 |
fungi | there is a mass subscribe page you have access to as list admins but it can be a bit surprising for people to suddenly find themselves subscribed to a new mailing list they dodn't request | 16:45 |
hogepodge | If they miss it because of mail filters, then they may not want to subscribe to the new one anyway | 16:45 |
shamail | fungi: +1, I think opt-in is best | 16:46 |
markvoelker | yeah, I don't think subscribing to an ML is too much action to request of anyone that actually wants to be involved. =) | 16:46 |
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eglute | ok, so opt-in it is for the new mailing list | 16:47 |
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shamail | fungi: Will the action > move option in wikis help us migrate our wiki to a new name? | 16:47 |
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shamail | or is it better to just do it by hand? | 16:47 |
shamail | I wasn’t sure what the impact would be to the existing page if that option is used. | 16:48 |
fungi | shamail: moving wiki pages works fine | 16:48 |
shamail | Thanks | 16:48 |
fungi | it will optionally (and by default) leave a redirect from the old name for you too | 16:48 |
shamail | That’s perfect. | 16:48 |
shamail | I will go ahead and take that one then | 16:48 |
eglute | any other comments on the rename? | 16:49 |
eglute | #action shamail to move wikis | 16:49 |
fungi | per recent additional security measures we put in place, you have to be a "verified" (autopatrolled) account to be able to move wiki pages now, but pretty much all of you are already | 16:49 |
eglute | thanks fungi! | 16:50 |
shamail | Thank you fungi and hogepodge! Great information. | 16:50 |
eglute | #topic Documenting how projects can become part of Guidelines | 16:50 |
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eglute | markvoelker updates on this? | 16:51 |
eglute | ah, no updates | 16:51 |
* eglute read etherpad | 16:51 | |
markvoelker | On my backlog. I'll probably not get to this until after Thanksgiving, realistically | 16:51 |
eglute | thanks markvoelker! | 16:51 |
eglute | no rush on that one | 16:51 |
eglute | #topic Upcoming events: PTG | 16:52 |
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eglute | hogepodge, any updates on the time slot? | 16:52 |
hogepodge | eglute: Uhm, it's not great news | 16:52 |
eglute | oh? | 16:52 |
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hogepodge | the ptg is reserved for TC approved projects. We could possible take advantage of time set aside for refstack, but dedicated space over the course of several days will not be made available to us | 16:53 |
gema | hogepodge: shall we then continue to have our own separate midcycles? | 16:53 |
catherine_d|1 | RefStack can request for room .. but seems like not many RefStack team member will be able to attend PTG ... I wonder whether we can combine the RefStack and DefCore meeting at PTG | 16:53 |
eglute | i like the catherine_d|1 suggestion for now, but we need to resolve the "not TC project" part | 16:54 |
hogepodge | catherine_d|1: that was proposed as a solution, but keep in mind that this is a lot of shared space that will be allocated according to project size and need | 16:54 |
eglute | opinions? | 16:55 |
markvoelker | Sounds to me like a separate midcycle might actually work better if we don't think refstack can get much time/space | 16:55 |
hogepodge | I'm not thrilled about it, but it's the TCs purview | 16:55 |
markvoelker | hogepodge: ++ | 16:55 |
eglute | how do people feel about dedicated midcycle? | 16:55 |
hogepodge | It we want to push it, we could raise it formally at a TC meeting. | 16:56 |
eglute | I am sure Rackspace would be happy to host it in San Antonio :) | 16:56 |
* markvoelker wonders if anyone would be interested in hosting us in ATL, say, the week of the PTG... | 16:56 | |
hogepodge | eglute: I was looking forward to the PTG promise of less travel, but the meetings have been important so I'll continue to support them | 16:56 |
gema | markvoelker: that would be rad x) | 16:56 |
eglute | I think because of the work we do, we should fall under crossprojects somwhere | 16:57 |
hogepodge | markvoelker: heh, that sounds like a good idea | 16:57 |
gema | catherine_d|1: does IBM have offices there? | 16:57 |
gema | or rackspace :D | 16:57 |
eglute | i like the suggestion of asking TC for space at PTG | 16:57 |
eglute | I can find out out about our office in Atlanta, not sure how big/small it is | 16:58 |
gema | :) | 16:58 |
catherine_d|1 | I don't recall that we have development site .... I doubt it but can check | 16:58 |
eglute | we are almost out of time-- hogepodge could ask TC for space at PTG? | 16:59 |
hogepodge | to be clear, we're invited to the PTG, we just can't get a dedicated room or extended resources. Meeting for cross project work is encouraged | 16:59 |
shamail | I can’t make it, kids are off from school that whole week. | 16:59 |
eglute | lets ask for dedicated room if most of us would be able to make it | 16:59 |
hogepodge | eglute: sure, I can put it on the agenda | 16:59 |
eglute | thank you hogepodge | 16:59 |
shamail | Will Interop WG still have a midcycle or is PTG the midcycle for this team | 16:59 |
shamail | nm | 17:00 |
shamail | catching up on the previous messages | 17:00 |
eglute | and we are out of time... lets move to openstack-interop channel | 17:00 |
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eglute | will discuss last topic next meeting | 17:01 |
eglute | thansk everyone | 17:01 |
eglute | #endmeeting | 17:01 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 16 17:01:02 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-11-16-16.01.html | 17:01 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-11-16-16.01.txt | 17:01 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-11-16-16.01.log.html | 17:01 |
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r1chardj0n3s | uhoh, are you going to cause trouble young ducttape_? | 19:58 |
ducttape_ | does a bear utilize the woods as a restroom ? | 19:58 |
ducttape_ | ;) | 19:58 |
r1chardj0n3s | just don't make me find the Time Out cards :-P | 19:59 |
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r1chardj0n3s | #startmeeting horizon | 20:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 16 20:00:10 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is r1chardj0n3s. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:00 |
hurgleburgler | (◠‿◠✿)ノ | 20:00 |
r1chardj0n3s | o/ | 20:00 |
rdopiera | o/ | 20:00 |
robcresswell | o/ | 20:00 |
david-lyle | o/ | 20:00 |
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ducttape_ | o/ | 20:00 |
tqtran | [=_=]/ | 20:00 |
rhagarty_ | o/ | 20:00 |
clu_ | o/ | 20:00 |
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rdopiera | .oO( was tqtran replaced by a bot? ) | 20:00 |
r1chardj0n3s | heh | 20:01 |
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tqtran | thats my face each morning, it gets rounder as the day progresses | 20:01 |
robcresswell | woah so many people | 20:01 |
* r1chardj0n3s wasn't going to jinx it | 20:01 | |
tsufiev | who's there :)? | 20:01 |
robcresswell | \o/ | 20:02 |
r1chardj0n3s | I'll start off with the usual stuff | 20:02 |
rdopiera | knock knock | 20:02 |
r1chardj0n3s | #topic Priority patches for review | 20:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Priority patches for review (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:02 | |
hurgleburgler | hehe | 20:02 |
hurgleburgler | is a full party today! | 20:02 |
r1chardj0n3s | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/starredby:r1chardj0n3s%20AND%20status:open lists the patches we need to get reviewed ASAP | 20:02 |
hurgleburgler | ♪└|∵|┐♪└|∵|┘♪┌|∵|┘♪ ♪└|∵┌|└| ∵ |┘|┐∵|┘ | 20:02 |
r1chardj0n3s | though since I'll be tagging O-1 tomorrow (or maybe Saturday if we're optimistic about any of those patches) they probably won't be making it in | 20:02 |
rdopiera | I have a question about the priority reviews -- should we also reviews the ones that are marked as work in progress? | 20:03 |
r1chardj0n3s | I've got a busy Saturday morning though. | 20:03 |
* tsufiev on his way to address the latest comments in profiler patch | 20:03 | |
robcresswell | << guilty of WIP | 20:03 |
robcresswell | That tox patch keeps growing. Because we thought it would be fun to put all our translation infra for babel inside run_tests :( | 20:03 |
r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: I think maybe the tox one might not make it this week, but I'm also not sure that's a huge problem | 20:03 |
robcresswell | No, its progressing fine, its just turned out to be a bigger job than I thought. | 20:04 |
robcresswell | story of openstack I suppose. | 20:04 |
r1chardj0n3s | since it doesn't really have any knock-on effects to others like frameworks would | 20:04 |
r1chardj0n3s | but it would be super nice for everyone to stop using run_tests as soon as possible this release | 20:04 |
r1chardj0n3s | so, you know, get on with it | 20:04 |
r1chardj0n3s | :-) | 20:04 |
rdopiera | fortunately I didn't setup ci for 11 yet | 20:04 |
* tsufiev expects a lot of complaints once it's finally done | 20:05 | |
ducttape_ | r1chardj0n3s / robcresswell - should / could we add a quick patch to bark at people and say "use this instead please" ? | 20:05 |
ducttape_ | for tox that is | 20:05 |
robcresswell | Already done that. If you use run_tests it has a big warning for every command | 20:05 |
robcresswell | Something about it being removed. | 20:06 |
robcresswell | Clearly it was very noticeable. | 20:06 |
r1chardj0n3s | yeah. maybe it could USE SOME BOLD ? :-) | 20:06 |
ducttape_ | how does the blink tag work in the cli ? | 20:06 |
ducttape_ | ;) | 20:06 |
r1chardj0n3s | Once O-1 is tagged I'll start loading the various next priority patches into the starred list. If you have favourites you'd like to encourage me to list there, please let me know. | 20:06 |
tsufiev | BIG BOLD RED BLINK :D | 20:07 |
hurgleburgler | +2 | 20:07 |
r1chardj0n3s | ducttape_: ANSI code 5 or 6 | 20:07 |
r1chardj0n3s | you're welcome | 20:07 |
* ducttape_ did not expect this wealth of info | 20:08 | |
r1chardj0n3s | ok, moving on | 20:08 |
r1chardj0n3s | #topic Priority bugs | 20:08 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Priority bugs (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:08 | |
david-lyle | robcresswell: https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/ad92dd20289c1861c2d0d68eeebd21fa1629a597/jenkins/jobs/horizon.yaml#L79 BTW | 20:08 |
r1chardj0n3s | I only have one priority bug listed at the moment | 20:08 |
r1chardj0n3s | https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1624743 | 20:09 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1624743 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Project image table: admin user sees images which are not shared with me" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Brad Pokorny (bpokorny) | 20:09 |
r1chardj0n3s | It'd be super nice if someone had some spare time they could look into that one. | 20:10 |
ediardo | o/ | 20:10 |
r1chardj0n3s | #topic Nova changing simple tenant usage API | 20:11 |
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tsufiev | so the patch is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375170/ r1chardj0n3s? | 20:11 |
r1chardj0n3s | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386771/ is a spec for changing the API | 20:11 |
tsufiev | perhaps add it to priority patches? | 20:11 |
r1chardj0n3s | tsufiev: thanks, I had missed that patch! I'll star it and review it today | 20:11 |
tsufiev | :) | 20:12 |
bpokorny | Let me know if you guys have any questions on the patch. | 20:12 |
r1chardj0n3s | So the nova folks want to fix the horrible performance of the os-simple-tenant-usage API call, which has been an issue for us in the past. | 20:12 |
bpokorny | I'm not confident it's been done in the most efficient way, but it's at least a bandaid for the problem :/ | 20:13 |
r1chardj0n3s | thanks bpokorny | 20:13 |
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bpokorny | np | 20:13 |
robcresswell | starred it too | 20:14 |
ducttape_ | would be good to improve that, but we would likely need some graceful fall back option too (once it is available) | 20:14 |
r1chardj0n3s | yep | 20:15 |
r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: could you please update us on where our xstatic packages are? | 20:16 |
robcresswell | \o/ Sure. So, we've updated and released several packages now, I've got a patch to the Horizon relnotes that lists them | 20:16 |
robcresswell | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398302 | 20:17 |
robcresswell | We're working on ui-bootstrap, d3 4.x, jquery 3.x... they all have breaking changes | 20:17 |
rdopiera | r1chardj0n3s: betherly couldn't come today, but she's working on the pagination patch | 20:17 |
robcresswell | But overall, making good progress. | 20:18 |
r1chardj0n3s | we're still waiting on the patch to limit Mitaka's use of bootstrap so it doesn't break | 20:18 |
r1chardj0n3s | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396447/ | 20:18 |
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r1chardj0n3s | I'll nudge the requirements folks about that again today | 20:18 |
r1chardj0n3s | And of course all the poor plugins will need to be updated too | 20:19 |
robcresswell | sounds good | 20:19 |
rdopiera | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/simple-tenant-usage-pagination | 20:19 |
rdopiera | we have a blueprint for it too | 20:19 |
r1chardj0n3s | rdopiera: thanks! | 20:20 |
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r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: so should I also put in requirements limits for Mitaka for d3 and jquery? | 20:22 |
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robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s: Yes, I suppose so | 20:23 |
r1chardj0n3s | Maybe I can get that shoe-horned into the current patch that's not yet merged, though it'd help to know the versions of d3 and jqeury that compatibility was broken in | 20:23 |
r1chardj0n3s | I'll take that on today | 20:24 |
r1chardj0n3s | ok, moving on | 20:24 |
r1chardj0n3s | #topic Cookiecutter template for an OpenStack Dashboard UI plugin project | 20:24 |
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r1chardj0n3s | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/ui-cookiecutter | 20:24 |
r1chardj0n3s | tqtran, I think you are championing this one? | 20:24 |
tqtran | so shuu isnt here probably | 20:24 |
r1chardj0n3s | yeah | 20:24 |
* ducttape_ ❤ cookies | 20:25 | |
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tqtran | hes created a cookie cutter for horizon plugins some time ago | 20:25 |
tqtran | i think we can potentially reuse this for our own startdash cmd (which doesnt really work) | 20:25 |
tqtran | we have one for python but none for angular panels | 20:25 |
r1chardj0n3s | ooh, I like removing code | 20:25 |
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david-lyle | the command works, just doesn't stub out angular | 20:26 |
tqtran | so i think we can potentially reuse this for startdash and make it an official horizon repo | 20:26 |
tqtran | it works, but i think cindy and i found a few bug with it | 20:26 |
tqtran | this was some time ago, so i cant be sure now | 20:26 |
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david-lyle | it doesn't get much love | 20:26 |
tqtran | right, there were recent changes that did not get incorporated | 20:27 |
tqtran | anyway, point is, this cookie cutter should be an official horizon repo that we support | 20:27 |
tqtran | and the side benefit is that we can also use it in our own start dash | 20:27 |
david-lyle | raise your hand if you know startdash and startpanel exist o/ | 20:27 |
robcresswell | So... the only downside is more code to support, right? | 20:27 |
robcresswell | o/ | 20:27 |
robcresswell | I mean, if we already ignore start*, do we want to add more? | 20:28 |
tqtran | right, the downside is we (horizon drivers) are now in charge of maintaining that repo | 20:28 |
tqtran | instead of shuu | 20:28 |
tqtran | yes i think we do since new projects can use it to jump start their own project | 20:28 |
tqtran | it will make life a bit easier | 20:28 |
tqtran | or we can just point people to shuu's repo, but down side is that if we make changes in the future, shuu's repo is going to be out of touch | 20:29 |
tqtran | so whats the verdict? should we vote? | 20:30 |
ducttape_ | if shuu's repo is not getting love, I'd say move it into someplace that will look after it, and keep it running | 20:30 |
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r1chardj0n3s | I personally need to think about it some before making a decision. | 20:30 |
tqtran | ok, we can revisit after everyone mulls over it | 20:31 |
robcresswell | My feeling is that we dont even maintain the existing ones, who's going to maintain the new one? | 20:31 |
ducttape_ | even if it is not working 100% of the time, at least try to use common locations / tooling / etc | 20:31 |
robcresswell | Its a cool idea, no doubt | 20:31 |
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robcresswell | I just dont want to be the one debugging it on IRC with someone in 3 months time. | 20:31 |
robcresswell | :) | 20:31 |
david-lyle | my point would be we had startdash and startpanel and they didn't get love and that's in the horizon tree, another repo is going to languish unless it's actively used | 20:31 |
ducttape_ | can this tool be invoked from ./run_tests.sh ? ;) | 20:32 |
robcresswell | wait are you saying bring it into Horizon, david-lyle, so it gets more attention? | 20:32 |
hurgleburgler | lol | 20:32 |
david-lyle | but it's a good idea and useful tool for sure | 20:32 |
david-lyle | robcresswell: I'm not sure, TBH | 20:32 |
tqtran | but whats the alternative? we are pushing everyone toward plugins, isnt it part of our responsibility to make it easier for them? | 20:32 |
david-lyle | I just am suspicious how up-to-date it will remain in our care | 20:33 |
robcresswell | tqtran: Yes, but a broken tool isnt easier for anyone :) | 20:33 |
tqtran | right now, you have to manually recreate those files, its a bit of a pain | 20:33 |
david-lyle | is it something we should do? absolutely. Is it something we will do effectively, not sure | 20:33 |
tqtran | hahaha | 20:33 |
r1chardj0n3s | So could we instread update start* in Horizon to be correct? | 20:34 |
ducttape_ | bringing the tool back in, and then deciding to remove it (if it gets no love) - this is an option too | 20:34 |
robcresswell | david-lyle: +1 | 20:34 |
robcresswell | ducttape_: Have you ever tried taking a feature away from horizon operators before? :) | 20:34 |
ducttape_ | no way, those guys are jerks | 20:34 |
robcresswell | lol | 20:34 |
david-lyle | LOL | 20:34 |
tqtran | r1chardj0n3s: even if we update start dash, we still dont have one for angular | 20:34 |
r1chardj0n3s | (fwiw I'm not sure we can embed ui-cookiecutter in the Horizon repos and have it still work with the cookiecutter tool) | 20:35 |
tqtran | so the cookie cutter will still need to come in at some point | 20:35 |
david-lyle | I guess our poor oversight is better than a complete orphan | 20:35 |
tqtran | i think so too. some oversight is better than throwing people out in the cold | 20:36 |
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ducttape_ | less bad is the phrase david-lyle | 20:36 |
r1chardj0n3s | (oh, no, my concern about pulling it in is incorrect) | 20:36 |
robcresswell | Well, propose a patch | 20:37 |
tqtran | we're not the only project to use cookie cutter, tempest is also doing the same thing | 20:37 |
robcresswell | We'll see how it goes | 20:37 |
r1chardj0n3s | so, we have three options, I think? 1) Ignore it and "fix" start* in Horizon, 2) Add ui-cookiecutter as an openstack project under the Horizon tree or 3) pull ui-cookiecutter into Horizon to replace start* | 20:37 |
tqtran | its just a documentation patch that says, heres is the official horizon-plugin-cookie-cutter, and heres how to use it | 20:38 |
r1chardj0n3s | Both 2 and 3 mean shuu can't actively maintain the project any longer without becoming a Horizon core, correct? | 20:38 |
robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s: You can just give it its own core team that inherits from horizon-core too | 20:38 |
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r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: ok, good | 20:39 |
ducttape_ | would the horizon cores not just implicitly shuu for many of these patches ? | 20:39 |
ducttape_ | trust ^ | 20:39 |
david-lyle | separate core works | 20:39 |
david-lyle | looks the same to everyone otherwise | 20:40 |
tqtran | honestly, theres not much code in there. shouldnt be too hard to maintain it. we can just fork over shuu's work and take over | 20:40 |
robcresswell | Yeah, manila already do that, they have their own core team but horizon are cores in it too. I think searchlight ui does it too. | 20:40 |
tqtran | we dont have to make him a core to maintain that project | 20:40 |
david-lyle | just if he wanted | 20:40 |
tqtran | right, if he wanted | 20:40 |
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r1chardj0n3s | yep, having shuu (and potentially others, along with Horizon cores) be core of the project ameliorates the main concern about it being kept up to date I think. | 20:40 |
david-lyle | if he's dumping and running, yes, there's no pont | 20:40 |
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david-lyle | *point | 20:41 |
tqtran | im sure he will be happy to maintain it | 20:41 |
r1chardj0n3s | I don't see any evidence that this is a dump-and-run | 20:41 |
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r1chardj0n3s | So, the BP also proposes that startdash use ui-cookiecutter instead of the current code. | 20:43 |
david-lyle | wasn't making an accusation, just didn't know the full story | 20:43 |
r1chardj0n3s | That would presumably mean Horizon pulling in the cookiecutter tool and invoking it. | 20:43 |
r1chardj0n3s | And removing the existing startdash/startpanel. | 20:44 |
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tqtran | i think that requires a bit more investigation. i have to look into how we can actually hook it up. | 20:44 |
tqtran | the part about us taking over the repo is what im proposing. | 20:44 |
tqtran | the other part, i think we should investigate first | 20:44 |
david-lyle | I'm fine in or out | 20:45 |
r1chardj0n3s | I think it makes sense for us to take over the repo with a separate set of cores specific to the project (even if that set is just shuu) | 20:46 |
r1chardj0n3s | That reduces the inherited burden for the current Horizon team. | 20:46 |
tqtran | worse case, no one maintains it. we're back to square one, didnt lose anything. | 20:47 |
david-lyle | the easiest first step for sure | 20:47 |
david-lyle | and if gets dusty we just drop repo support | 20:47 |
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tqtran | and if someone needs plugin setup, we have a doc that points them to the repo and how to use it. easy peasy | 20:47 |
clu_ | i think it's a plus, a good starting pt for newcomers | 20:47 |
robcresswell | To be clear; does this actually *work* right now? and how? | 20:48 |
robcresswell | ah, via https://github.com/audreyr/cookiecutter | 20:49 |
r1chardj0n3s | yep | 20:49 |
tqtran | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tempest/plugin.html#plugin-cookiecutter | 20:49 |
tqtran | heres what tempest does for their test plugin | 20:50 |
tqtran | essentially, they have a patch for docs that guide users on how to use it | 20:50 |
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r1chardj0n3s | tqtran: would you like to be the approver-shepherd for the ui-cookiecutter BP? | 20:50 |
tqtran | yes please | 20:50 |
robcresswell | Cool, sounds good | 20:50 |
r1chardj0n3s | go for it, with the understanding that it's currently approved for being a project with the proviso I've noted in the BP, and that further investigation is needed regarding Horizon integration :-) | 20:51 |
tqtran | i dont think the plugin shuu has is complete, its probably missing a few things like translation but we can add to that | 20:51 |
tqtran | ok, i'll start the process | 20:51 |
r1chardj0n3s | cool | 20:52 |
robcresswell | \o/ | 20:52 |
r1chardj0n3s | ok, we have a few minutes - do we have anything else anyone would like to bring up? | 20:52 |
r1chardj0n3s | Just to note that the weekly Keystone-Horizon meeting will be tomorrow, at the same time as this meeting (2000 UTC) in #openstack-cp | 20:52 |
robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s: I had an item on there | 20:53 |
robcresswell | might need to refresh the page | 20:53 |
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r1chardj0n3s | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-keystone-horizon the etherpad for the keystone/horizon meeting | 20:53 |
r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: ack! you snuck it in! go for it :-) | 20:53 |
r1chardj0n3s | #topic gettext in JS - angular gettext? global gettext? text-shim.js? | 20:53 |
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r1chardj0n3s | I think the answer is "yes?" :-) | 20:54 |
tsufiev | r1chardj0n3s, I have kind of status update on 'fixing integration tests' - the one I already mentioned to you | 20:54 |
robcresswell | So, in sorting out tox/run_tests, I kinda realised how much of our i18n infra is fractured | 20:54 |
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robcresswell | we seem to have this test-shim(?) that allows global gettext, we have angular-gettext which is used in half a dozen places, and then all our commands are just bash scripts, which are hardcoded to o_d and horizon so plugin code cant use them | 20:54 |
robcresswell | So I've mostly fixed the hard coded extraction etc. | 20:55 |
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robcresswell | But I'm really confused by the direction with test-shim and angular-gettext; I was hoping someone could explain. | 20:55 |
r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: angular-gettext provides the angular templating translation mechanisms | 20:55 |
robcresswell | Are we ever going to remove that shim? | 20:55 |
tqtran | so theres two part to i18n, the message extraction and message substitution | 20:56 |
robcresswell | Maybe Im confusing it with the gettext angular module, which some parts include. | 20:56 |
tqtran | angular-gettext is the substituion part | 20:56 |
robcresswell | some use gettext globally | 20:56 |
r1chardj0n3s | I'm not familiar with the test-shim | 20:56 |
r1chardj0n3s | gettext global is used by JS code | 20:56 |
tqtran | right, django embeds a catalog object containing the gettext function | 20:56 |
tqtran | which is globally available | 20:56 |
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tqtran | but within anguar modules, we have a wrapper gettext that we encourage people to use | 20:57 |
tqtran | both have to exist (since we still have legacy js code) | 20:57 |
robcresswell | So, how does that wrapper work? And why dont we actually use it? | 20:57 |
tqtran | the wrapper uses the global gettext underneath it all | 20:57 |
robcresswell | And why does it have to imported as 'gettext'? Because that prevents use of ngettext etc. | 20:57 |
tqtran | we do use it, all of the angular code injects it | 20:58 |
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tqtran | it has to be 'gettext' because of the message extraction part | 20:58 |
robcresswell | most of the modules are using the global one :/ | 20:58 |
tqtran | we are using babel, and babel looks specifically for gettext | 20:58 |
tqtran | if they are, then it is incorrect and should be using the injected gettext | 20:58 |
robcresswell | okay, got that part | 20:59 |
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robcresswell | Ill continue this in #horizon | 20:59 |
r1chardj0n3s | sorry folks, we are out of time :-( | 20:59 |
tsufiev | np | 20:59 |
r1chardj0n3s | thanks everyone for coming, and let's continue the gettext discussion in #horizon | 20:59 |
tqtran | the test-shim is there so we can use gettext in our tests (its just a mocked version) - though its been a while and i might be totally wrong here | 20:59 |
r1chardj0n3s | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 16 21:00:04 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-11-16-20.00.html | 21:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-11-16-20.00.txt | 21:00 |
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dansmith | #startmeeting nova_cells | 21:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 16 21:00:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dansmith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells' | 21:00 |
dansmith | wudup. | 21:00 |
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melwitt | o/ | 21:00 |
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dansmith | nobody else? | 21:01 |
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med_ | here | 21:01 |
melwitt | mriedem must be in the middle of something | 21:01 |
dansmith | good, it was going to be awkward | 21:01 |
* med_ was drug into the meeting | 21:02 | |
dansmith | #topic testing and stuff | 21:02 |
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dansmith | anything here? | 21:02 |
melwitt | I have noticed more than usual failures in the cells v1 job | 21:02 |
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melwitt | but I don't know what they were | 21:02 |
dansmith | really? a bunch of stuff has been failing more than normal, so maybe it's unrelated to the actual cellsness? | 21:03 |
melwitt | yeah, I was about to say that too. there have been lots of random failures lately in other jobs as well | 21:03 |
dansmith | aye | 21:03 |
dansmith | on the general topic of testing I can say that I'm struggling with the v2 patch series right now, all in the name of testing | 21:04 |
dansmith | and will probably end up with a slightly less realistic test scenario to begin with, | 21:04 |
dansmith | and lean on tempest jobs to keep us honest | 21:04 |
melwitt | I wasn't sure if we'd talk about that under this topic but that makes sense. I too have been experimenting still | 21:04 |
dansmith | I talked to alaski this morning and he said he was planning to do the same | 21:04 |
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dansmith | melwitt: anything to report or just that it be tough? | 21:05 |
melwitt | dansmith: I seem to be making progress on a new fixture I'm trying that switches between in-memory sqlite DBs. but that could all come crashing down in the end. I'm still in the middle of running it with the servers tests | 21:06 |
dansmith | orly | 21:07 |
dansmith | let me go ahead and: | 21:07 |
dansmith | #topic reviews | 21:07 |
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melwitt | basically because of some laziness on my part in the DB API, things aren't so patchable for testing. so I'm going through and adding 'pick_context_manager' on things that don't have it so that my patching/switching works in my fixture | 21:07 |
dansmith | So I've been avoiding the test thing for a bit and have been trying to get the refactor parts of that series landed first, | 21:08 |
dansmith | which will give us more time to explore some of these other solutions | 21:08 |
dansmith | the gate has been kindof the suck, so haven't gotten much done, but a couple things have landed | 21:08 |
dansmith | melwitt: cool | 21:08 |
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melwitt | yeah, think we got 3 or 4 things at least approved | 21:09 |
dansmith | yeah | 21:09 |
dansmith | well, counting the bits mriedem did for sure | 21:10 |
dansmith | anyway, that one is coming along but it's slow | 21:10 |
dansmith | any other series that need discussing? | 21:10 |
melwitt | yeah I was thinking of the total | 21:10 |
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melwitt | I need to but haven't yet updated the cells quota stuff spec | 21:10 |
dansmith | okay | 21:11 |
melwitt | to change it to the counting approach and put the details from the etherpad in it | 21:11 |
dansmith | cool | 21:11 |
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dansmith | #topic open discussion | 21:12 |
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* melwitt sees a lascii | 21:12 | |
dansmith | I'm assuming no meting next week | 21:12 |
melwitt | oh, right. turkey week | 21:12 |
dansmith | okay well, I don't really have anything else | 21:13 |
melwitt | I can't think of anything else either right now | 21:13 |
dansmith | alaski: med_: anything? | 21:14 |
melwitt | I still haven't gotten around to getting that info on consoleauth and what the upcall is | 21:14 |
med_ | nada. | 21:14 |
melwitt | it's basically compute needs to call up to the consoleauth service to validate tokens | 21:14 |
dansmith | oh right | 21:14 |
alaski | nothing from me atm | 21:14 |
melwitt | and that's not been accounted for at all in our stuff yet | 21:14 |
alaski | I thought consoleauth was moving into the cells? | 21:15 |
melwitt | just something I don't want to forget about | 21:15 |
dansmith | ack | 21:15 |
melwitt | PaulMurray wasn't at the summit as far as I'm aware and I was super sick that week, so we didn't get to talk about it | 21:15 |
dansmith | yeah | 21:15 |
alaski | gotcha | 21:15 |
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dansmith | alaski: we had a more productive meeting last week, this week there just isn't much else to talk about.. just in case you're disappointed :) | 21:16 |
dansmith | anyway, move to adjourn? | 21:16 |
med_ | 2dd | 21:16 |
alaski | heh, not disappointed | 21:16 |
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dansmith | woot | 21:17 |
dansmith | #info No meeting next week because: turkey | 21:17 |
dansmith | #endmeeting | 21:17 |
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openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2016/nova_cells.2016-11-16-21.00.html | 21:17 |
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