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| flwang | #startmeeting zaqar | 02:06 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 7 02:06:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flwang. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 02:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 02:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: zaqar)" | 02:06 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zaqar' | 02:06 |
| wanghao | hello everyone! | 02:06 |
| flwang | #roll call | 02:06 |
| flwang | wanghao: hey | 02:07 |
| flwang | not sure if wxy is around | 02:07 |
| flwang | so, i assume this could be a short meeting | 02:07 |
| wanghao | okay | 02:07 |
| wanghao | seems he is offline now. | 02:07 |
| wxy | coming | 02:08 |
| wxy | Sorry, I forgot. | 02:09 |
| wanghao | hah | 02:09 |
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| flwang | that's alright | 02:09 |
| flwang | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zaqar-pike-summit | 02:09 |
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| flwang | here is the items we would like to do in pike | 02:09 |
| wxy | oslo.middileware--cors is ready to review | 02:10 |
| wxy | please | 02:10 |
| flwang | wxy: ok, sure | 02:10 |
| flwang | i will start to review that one | 02:10 |
| flwang | was busy for some internal stuff | 02:10 |
| wxy | it doesn't matter. Just FYI.: ) | 02:11 |
| flwang | #topic cold migration | 02:12 |
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| flwang | as for this patch, do we have to do anything more? | 02:12 |
| flwang | like the release note, i'm still hesitating to add a release note for that | 02:13 |
| wxy | This patch is OK. Need a follow patch to address the TODO. | 02:13 |
| flwang | as wxy mentioned in the patch, the work we're doing is making the gate works | 02:13 |
| wxy | yeah. | 02:14 |
| flwang | wanghao: ^ | 02:14 |
| wanghao | flwang: well, I'm ok for this patch now :) | 02:14 |
| flwang | wanghao: could you pls +2 for that if you don't mind? | 02:14 |
| wanghao | flwang: sure | 02:14 |
| flwang | wxy: then could i get an approval from you? ;) | 02:15 |
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| wxy | flwang: of cause. | 02:16 |
| flwang | and if we changed our mind to decide to add a release note, we can do that after making the grenade job vote | 02:16 |
| wanghao | flwang: sounds great | 02:16 |
| wanghao | +2 already | 02:16 |
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| flwang | cool | 02:17 |
| flwang | as i mentioned before, in pike, i didn't want to do much new features | 02:18 |
| flwang | so just asking, if notification delivery policy and mobile notification center are still on your to-do list | 02:19 |
| flwang | because those are the really big features | 02:19 |
| wanghao | flwang: I just want to do one bp to notification delivery. | 02:20 |
| flwang | yep, i know. that mobile notification center is proposed by wxy | 02:20 |
| wxy | I haven't started the mobile notification center. This could be moved to Q | 02:20 |
| flwang | wanghao: so the notification delivery policy is still on track? | 02:20 |
| flwang | wxy: oh, man | 02:20 |
| wanghao | flwang: yes, plan to summit spec in this week. | 02:20 |
| flwang | do you know the release date of Pike? | 02:21 |
| flwang | it's Aug | 02:21 |
| flwang | so you still have about 4-5 months to do that | 02:21 |
| wxy | flwang: Oh | 02:21 |
| wxy | flwang: Right, I could write a spec first. | 02:21 |
| wanghao | seems we didn't have too much new features in P, two? or three? | 02:21 |
| flwang | i will complete the dead letter queue | 02:23 |
| flwang | and polish the zaqar UI | 02:23 |
| flwang | that's what i'm working on | 02:23 |
| flwang | except those stuff, i'd like to improve the performance of zaqar | 02:24 |
| flwang | like i said in the self nomination letter of PTL | 02:24 |
| wanghao | yeah | 02:24 |
| wanghao | Guru patch will help Zaqar to improve the capacity of bug handle, so I think it'a also a polish feature. | 02:26 |
| flwang | wanghao: cool | 02:27 |
| flwang | i also need some test for that patch | 02:27 |
| wxy | wanghao: Is it possible to support for uwsgi? | 02:27 |
| wanghao | wxy: have no idea yet, for my test, it can't now. | 02:28 |
| wxy | wanghao: It will be great if you can confirm | 02:29 |
| wxy | otherwise the patch LGTM | 02:29 |
| wxy | flwang: If I can do some help, please let me know. | 02:31 |
| wanghao | flwang: yeah, me too. | 02:31 |
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| flwang | cool | 02:32 |
| flwang | actually, the idea is still blur | 02:33 |
| flwang | like i mentioned with wxy in private message | 02:33 |
| flwang | i'd like to do some test to figure out the corners we need to improve | 02:33 |
| flwang | i have a presentation in bostion summit for the updates of Ocata | 02:33 |
| flwang | i'd like to give a demo | 02:34 |
| flwang | how to use pool to get a messaing service with swift, mongo and redis as mixed backend | 02:34 |
| wxy | flwang: sounds great | 02:35 |
| flwang | and i'd like also give a demo about the messaging performance like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwLC5xmCZUs&t=90s | 02:35 |
| wanghao | cool | 02:35 |
| flwang | but it takes time for sure | 02:37 |
| flwang | but i don't have do you guys can help | 02:37 |
| flwang | one thing for now, you guys can do is helping review the patches of zaqar-ui | 02:37 |
| flwang | that's one of high priority job i'd like to do in Pike | 02:37 |
| flwang | and another thing is testing/polishing sqlalchemy and swift driver | 02:38 |
| wanghao | emm, sure | 02:39 |
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| wxy | flwang: OK, added them to my TODO list. | 02:39 |
| flwang | wanghao: will you be boston? | 02:40 |
| wanghao | flwang: not sure now, Boss is deciding it now... | 02:40 |
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| flwang | ok, no problem | 02:43 |
| flwang | #topic open discussion | 02:44 |
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| flwang | anything you guys want to discuss? | 02:44 |
| flwang | no? | 02:45 |
| wanghao | no | 02:46 |
| wxy | no | 02:47 |
| flwang | cool, thank you for joining guys | 02:52 |
| flwang | #endmeeting | 02:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 7 02:52:03 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 02:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2017/zaqar.2017-03-07-02.06.html | 02:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2017/zaqar.2017-03-07-02.06.txt | 02:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2017/zaqar.2017-03-07-02.06.log.html | 02:52 |
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| matjazp | #startmeeting training-guides | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 7 13:00:56 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is matjazp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| matjazp | hey all | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: training-guides)" | 13:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' | 13:01 |
| matjazp | roll call | 13:01 |
| trevormc | o/ | 13:02 |
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| matjazp | damn, textual crashed | 13:03 |
| trevormc | i thought you quit because no on is here | 13:04 |
| matjazp | lets wait a bit | 13:04 |
| matjazp | trevormc: no, my IRC client crashed | 13:05 |
| matjazp | I need to install more recent version | 13:05 |
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| matjazp | but the attendance is low | 13:05 |
| matjazp | damn, I forgot to send a reminder on the Docs ML | 13:06 |
| matjazp | maybe everyone started to rely on those reminders | 13:07 |
| matjazp | nothing special on the agenda, so I propose to wait a few minutes and if the attendance remains so low, maybe we should postpone the meeting? | 13:08 |
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| matjazp | trevormc: do you have anything that needs a discussion? | 13:11 |
| trevormc | matjazp: no, i havent been attending much because these are early for me | 13:11 |
| trevormc | just 7am but... I sleep in :) | 13:11 |
| matjazp | 7am IS early, definitely ;) | 13:11 |
| trevormc | every two weeks right? | 13:12 |
| matjazp | yes, odd weeks | 13:12 |
| trevormc | ok ill be here next time | 13:12 |
| matjazp | ok, thanks for attending | 13:12 |
| matjazp | you can go back to bed :) | 13:12 |
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| trevormc | ha more like go to work | 13:13 |
| trevormc | s/work/play | 13:13 |
| matjazp | #info meeting canceled due to low attendance. | 13:14 |
| matjazp | trevormc: see you at the next meeting | 13:14 |
| trevormc | thanks \o | 13:15 |
| matjazp | bye | 13:15 |
| matjazp | #endmeeting | 13:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 13:15 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 7 13:15:52 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:15 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2017/training_guides.2017-03-07-13.00.html | 13:15 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2017/training_guides.2017-03-07-13.00.txt | 13:15 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2017/training_guides.2017-03-07-13.00.log.html | 13:15 |
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| tdurakov | #startmeeting Nova Live Migration | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 7 14:00:40 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tdurakov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_live_migration' | 14:00 |
| tdurakov | hello everyone | 14:00 |
| * johnthetubaguy lurks | 14:01 | |
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| davidgiluk | o/ | 14:01 |
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| tdurakov | agenda | 14:02 |
| tdurakov | let's start | 14:02 |
| tdurakov | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaLiveMigration#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 14:02 |
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| tdurakov | #topic Pike specs | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Pike specs (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:02 | |
| tdurakov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438467/ | 14:02 |
| tdurakov | the first one | 14:02 |
| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: I left several comments on that | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | yes, had some good chat about that this time last week | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | raj_singh is taking the action to get that one updated | 14:04 |
| tdurakov | raj_singh: ok | 14:04 |
| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy, ok | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think we something for how long it takes to timeout | 14:04 |
| tdurakov | btw | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | and something to say what to do on timeout | 14:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | both with defaults in CONF, probably | 14:04 |
| tdurakov | do we really need additional option on nova.conf? | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think it replaces the automatic post copy basically | 14:05 |
| raj_singh | johnthetubaguy: +1 | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | so, optionally, force live-migration, rather than abort live-migration, when it times out | 14:05 |
| tdurakov | yes, but what's the point, as replace means deprecation process | 14:05 |
| raj_singh | tdurakov: I will update the spec today | 14:05 |
| tdurakov | raj_singh: yes, please | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | so I don't think auto-post copy will get a deprecation cycle as such, its more turned off by default | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | the spec will eventually give more context on the thinking | 14:06 |
| tdurakov | I still proposing not to introduce new options as long as we could manage this behaviour using existing options | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | it should leave us with a must easier to understand set of live-migrate configs | 14:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | there are no options for what to do on timeout right now | 14:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I would rather we have a new clearer, easy to understand option, than make some crazy combo of options mean something special | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | raj_singh: we might be missing a spec actually, around the config changes pkoniszewski was thinking about | 14:08 |
| raj_singh | johnthetubaguy: That is on my todo list | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool | 14:08 |
| raj_singh | Will be done today or tomorrow | 14:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so here is what I was thinking, roughly | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | new API, as discussed | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | defaults in CONF (what to do on timeout) | 14:09 |
| tdurakov | the thing is that default value of the new config option is kind of meaningless | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | remove the failed automatic post-copy and deprecated progress timeout logic | 14:09 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: conf defaults to "abort" options are "abort" or "force", thing to do on completion timeout | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | it replaces the auto post copy thing, that used to happen whenever you turn on post copy | 14:10 |
| tdurakov | raj_singh: please update the spec, will take another look | 14:10 |
| raj_singh | tdurakov: yes sir | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I think we are not describing the picture well over IRC | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | to the spec for more details | 14:11 |
| tdurakov | but want to mention that overall is ok, and except the option story I like the way it's going | 14:12 |
| tdurakov | ok | 14:13 |
| tdurakov | next one | 14:13 |
| tdurakov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347161/ | 14:13 |
| tdurakov | live migration of rescued instances | 14:13 |
| tdurakov | any updates on that? | 14:13 |
| tdurakov | seems to be no | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | there is a POC patch up I think | 14:14 |
| raj_singh | So Siva is working on that, he should have another revision soon | 14:15 |
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| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308198 - this one? | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I can't find the POC right now, but he got it working I think | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: no, its quite a different approach I believe | 14:15 |
| raj_singh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/440904/ | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, thats the one | 14:16 |
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| tdurakov | we need a tempest test for that | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | it basically needs the compatibility and upgrade sugar, but yeah, thats the crux of it | 14:16 |
| tdurakov | I assume | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: thats in the spec I believe | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | boot -> rescue -> live-migrate -> unrescue | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | or something like that | 14:17 |
| tdurakov | because for now I'm not sure about that copy should be done in this if section: if not is_shared_block_storage | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh, it needs way more guards against when that is done, its just a hack to prove its possible to make it work | 14:18 |
| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: yeah, the idea for test is ok | 14:18 |
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| tdurakov | I'll comment PoC patch | 14:19 |
| tdurakov | any other specs I've missed? | 14:19 |
| tdurakov | ok | 14:20 |
| tdurakov | moving on | 14:20 |
| tdurakov | #topic bugs | 14:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:20 | |
| tdurakov | my favorite one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244489/ | 14:20 |
| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: do we have blockers for that? | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | no had chance to re-review it | 14:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | stuck in herding specs right now | 14:22 |
| tdurakov | the case with upgrades seems to be addressed already, please review when sufficient | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | its on my list (of doom!) | 14:23 |
| tdurakov | lol | 14:23 |
| tdurakov | ok | 14:23 |
| tdurakov | any new bugs? | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | there is the one around post copy | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | its not new as such | 14:23 |
| tdurakov | the network switch for dvr? | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434870/ | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, making sure we switch the networking to the destination host in a much more timely way | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | it actually changes things for post copy and regular live-migration | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | using the libvirt events | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | needs careful review, but I kinda like the improvement | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | we spot when the VM is paused on the source host, and then switch over to the destination host | 14:25 |
| tdurakov | yes, need a closer look | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | the manual testing seems to show significantly less pings dropped during a live-migrate | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: are you going to get chance to review the latest version of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244489/ as well, that would be great if you could hit that and make sure its right now | 14:28 |
| davidgiluk | johnthetubaguy: Please get libvirt guys to review it | 14:28 |
| tdurakov | ok, starred the post-copy change | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | davidgiluk: I have asked a few folks, but would love more eyes on that for sure | 14:28 |
| tdurakov | sure, will review claims bug again | 14:28 |
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| davidgiluk | johnthetubaguy: I'll ask jdenemar | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | davidgiluk: that would be great, thank you | 14:29 |
| tdurakov | moving on | 14:30 |
| tdurakov | #topic ci | 14:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "ci (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:30 | |
| tdurakov | haven't heard updates on serial console hook | 14:30 |
| tdurakov | need to ping markus_z for update | 14:30 |
| tdurakov | anyone has context? | 14:30 |
| tdurakov | seems no | 14:32 |
| tdurakov | #topic open discussions | 14:32 |
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| tdurakov | who is going to visit operators mid-cycle? | 14:32 |
| raj_singh | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MIL-ops-live-migration | 14:32 |
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| raj_singh | Oprators etherpad for LM | 14:32 |
| raj_singh | *operators | 14:33 |
| tdurakov | thanks | 14:33 |
| tdurakov | I'll respond in ml for that | 14:34 |
| tdurakov | thank you | 14:34 |
| tdurakov | any other topics? | 14:34 |
| davidgiluk | raj_singh: what is 'rolling migration' ? | 14:34 |
| tdurakov | one is done during upgrades? | 14:34 |
| raj_singh | davidgiluk: not sure, what is the context? | 14:35 |
| davidgiluk | raj_singh: It's in that pad you posted | 14:35 |
| tdurakov | line 40 | 14:35 |
| raj_singh | it should be live migration i think | 14:35 |
| tdurakov | heh | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | its probably about patching hosts, I suspect | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | although its a bit odd | 14:37 |
| tdurakov | +1 | 14:37 |
| raj_singh | VM uptime/liveliness | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | I plan to reach out to that etherpad author, I don't understand most of the questions they are trying to ask in there | 14:37 |
| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: please use ml for that | 14:37 |
| tdurakov | so everyone will be on the same page | 14:38 |
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| tdurakov | if there are no other things, let's finish sync up | 14:38 |
| tdurakov | thanks everyone | 14:38 |
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| tdurakov | #endmeeting | 14:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:39 | |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: it should probably be on the ops ML for that etherpad | 14:39 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 7 14:39:04 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2017/nova_live_migration.2017-03-07-14.00.html | 14:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2017/nova_live_migration.2017-03-07-14.00.txt | 14:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2017/nova_live_migration.2017-03-07-14.00.log.html | 14:39 |
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| TheJulia | #startmeeting ironic_ui | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 7 18:00:17 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is TheJulia. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic_ui' | 18:00 |
| TheJulia | o/ | 18:00 |
| crushil | \o/ | 18:00 |
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| jroll | \o | 18:00 |
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| TheJulia | #topic Announcements / Reminders | 18:01 |
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| TheJulia | #info Welcome everyone to the first meeting for the ironic-ui! \o/ | 18:01 |
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| mgould | o/ | 18:01 |
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| TheJulia | Greetings ppiela and everyone else | 18:01 |
| soliosg | o/ | 18:02 |
| ppiela | Hello | 18:02 |
| TheJulia | Are we all here? | 18:02 |
| TheJulia | I guess we should get started | 18:03 |
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| TheJulia | #topic Current Status - Items Under Development | 18:03 |
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| TheJulia | ppiela has been kind enough to push forward on the development of some missing features in the ironic-ui. Thank you ppiela! | 18:04 |
| TheJulia | #info Support for network_interface | 18:04 |
| TheJulia | #link https://review.openstack.org/432599 | 18:04 |
| soliosg | Is there an etherpad with the agenda? | 18:04 |
| TheJulia | You know, that would help if I had pasted that link | 18:05 |
| TheJulia | One moment | 18:05 |
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| TheJulia | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-ui | 18:05 |
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| soliosg | Great, thank you | 18:06 |
| TheJulia | The other feature ppiela has been working on is support for console activation/access information/deactivation in the UI. | 18:07 |
| TheJulia | #info Support for starting/stopping console | 18:07 |
| TheJulia | #link https://review.openstack.org/437419 | 18:07 |
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| TheJulia | ppiela: Are there any other high level items that your currently working on? | 18:08 |
| ppiela | I am adding support for newer power transitions: reboot, soft reboot, and soft power off | 18:09 |
| TheJulia | Awesome, is there a review up yet? | 18:09 |
| ppiela | Also working on a bunch of refactoring and cleanup, we have learnt a lot in the past year | 18:09 |
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| ppiela | No review yet, coming later this week | 18:10 |
| TheJulia | #info ppiela is Also working on additional power state transitions, soft power-on/off, as well as some refactoring. Expect some code later this week. | 18:10 |
| TheJulia | Awesome, Thank you ppiela! | 18:10 |
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| TheJulia | Is anyone else working on any additions to the UI that would be pertinent to raise at this time? | 18:10 |
| * TheJulia hears crickets | 18:12 | |
| * jroll too | 18:12 | |
| TheJulia | I guess not, especially since this is our first meeting on this topic. | 18:13 |
| jroll | please don't add crickets to the UI, though, that will be filed as a bug | 18:13 |
| TheJulia | Moving on... | 18:13 |
| TheJulia | jroll: Awwwwwwww, it could be fun! | 18:13 |
| jroll | :) | 18:13 |
| TheJulia | #topic Current Status - Missing Features | 18:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current Status - Missing Features (Meeting topic: ironic_ui)" | 18:13 | |
| TheJulia | So in comparison to Ironic, the UI is missing a number of features, primarily due to the nature of it trailing the main project. | 18:13 |
| mgould | jroll: "filed as a bug" - groan | 18:14 |
| TheJulia | #info Missing features - Portgroup support, setting/getting boot device, RAID configuration, Ability to set resource_class | 18:14 |
| TheJulia | I believe I’ve recorded most of these originally on my a spreadsheet I made and in launchpad bugs. I’ll try and clean-up the launchpad bugs this week. | 18:14 |
| jroll | mgould: \o/ | 18:14 |
| TheJulia | #action TheJulia to clean-up launchpad this week. | 18:14 |
| soliosg | I think in this section the spreadsheet with missing features might be handy | 18:14 |
| TheJulia | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic-ui | 18:14 |
| TheJulia | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1petifqVxOT70H2Krz7igV2m9YqgXaAiCHR8CXgoi9a0/edit?usp=sharing | 18:14 |
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| jroll | +1 for launchpad bugs | 18:15 |
| TheJulia | Is anyone interested in looking at some of those items? I'm more than happy to spend time sharing context. | 18:15 |
| TheJulia | Launchpad should be considered the source of truth for our purposes. | 18:16 |
| TheJulia | But I'll fix it :) | 18:16 |
| crushil | TheJulia, I was planning on working on some of those | 18:17 |
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| TheJulia | I guess this logically moves us into Planning/Priorities, moving on if there are no objections? | 18:17 |
| TheJulia | #topic Planning/Priorities | 18:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Planning/Priorities (Meeting topic: ironic_ui)" | 18:18 | |
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| TheJulia | crushil: Was there a specific item or two that you were looking at working on? I'm curious so we can make sure ppiela and yourself don't step on each others toes. :) | 18:19 |
| crushil | TheJulia, I'm still acclimatising myself with the ironic-ui and ironic in general. I still need to look in-depth as to what specifically I want to work on | 18:20 |
| * mgould would like to have a look at node-get-boot-device | 18:20 | |
| ppiela | crushil: dont hesitate to reach out | 18:21 |
| crushil | ppiela, ack | 18:21 |
| TheJulia | crushil: Same for myself, and I suspect the bulk of the ironic community :) | 18:21 |
| TheJulia | mgould: Seems like that is an option, is that action worthy ? :) | 18:21 |
| TheJulia | Overall, I would really like for us to get support in place for portgroups by the end of the cycle, but that is just my hope. | 18:22 |
| mgould | TheJulia: sure | 18:23 |
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| ppiela | TheJulia: I can take on portgroups | 18:23 |
| TheJulia | #action mgould to look at adding support for node-get-boot-device to the UI | 18:23 |
| TheJulia | ppiela: That does kind of make sense given you've been in the ports interface recently | 18:24 |
| ppiela | TheJulia: that was my thinking also | 18:24 |
| TheJulia | Action item worthy ? :) | 18:25 |
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| JayF | /win 26 | 18:25 |
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| JayF | whoops :( My lurking is revealed | 18:25 |
| TheJulia | s/\ // :) | 18:25 |
| TheJulia | #info ppiela is anticipating to look at adding portgroup support. | 18:27 |
| TheJulia | That is really all I have, does anyone have anything else regarding planning/priorities? | 18:28 |
| mgould | not me | 18:29 |
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| TheJulia | Well, if there is nothing on that subject, we should move on. Since we have no explicit discussion items that I see, I propose we move on to Open Discussion | 18:30 |
| ppiela | TheJulia: sounds good | 18:30 |
| TheJulia | Oh, there is one more item on the agenda! | 18:30 |
| TheJulia | Regarding testing, I believe we're waiting on some guidance from Horizon on integration testing. I'm not expecting that to appear quickly this cycle, but I'll follow-up later this week or early next week to see when we can expect guidance. | 18:31 |
| TheJulia | #action TheJulia to follow-up on testing write-up/guidance that the Horizon team indicated they would attempt to provide this cycle. | 18:32 |
| TheJulia | So, since there is noting else (hopefully), moving on in a minute. :) | 18:33 |
| TheJulia | #topic Open Discussion | 18:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: ironic_ui)" | 18:33 | |
| TheJulia | Do we have anything else to discuss today? Questions? Crazy ideas? Preferred coffee houses for UI development? | 18:34 |
| soliosg | I wonder if missing items in the spreadsheet are reflected on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic-ui | 18:35 |
| soliosg | Or are there any bug/features to create in launchpad yet? | 18:35 |
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| mgould | "no support for getting/setting boot devices" seems to be missing from Launchpad | 18:36 |
| ppiela | Launchpad is not complete | 18:36 |
| TheJulia | soliosg: The bugs on launchpad need to be updated to become the source of truth. I was planning on trying to take care of that later this week, unless someone wants to volunteer to take a first pass? | 18:36 |
| crushil | Wait, why are we still tracking this in a bug? Shouldn't there be a bp associated with this? | 18:36 |
| TheJulia | Ironic really doesn't use blueprints, and also we're presently chasing functionality in the CLI. So realistically, they are defects/bugs that need to be addressed for parity. | 18:37 |
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| soliosg | TheJulia: Agree, having the bug/features 'ready to pick-up' in launchpad would be easier to spot where work is needed | 18:38 |
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| TheJulia | I think if there is something that is like "major addition" that goes above and beyond the scope of parity, then it might be time to discuss something like an RFE bug or a specification depending on the scope being proposed. | 18:39 |
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| soliosg | TheJulia: I can help you with the first round to check missing items parity between spreadsheet and launchpad. This would help me spot which issue/bug I could work on | 18:40 |
| TheJulia | But, that is just my point of view, and consensus and common context/direction is the key to my point of view. I can be convinced of otherwise as well :) | 18:41 |
| crushil | TheJulia, Thanks for catching me up | 18:41 |
| ppiela | I would love to get feedback from operators | 18:41 |
| TheJulia | soliosg: Awesome, Thank you! | 18:41 |
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| TheJulia | #action soliosg to take a first pass at reconciling bugs in the ironic-ui launchpad bug tracker. | 18:41 |
| TheJulia | crushil: no problem :) | 18:41 |
| TheJulia | #info ppiela is seeking operator feedback. | 18:42 |
| TheJulia | ppiela: I think that will begin to surface more as the cycle proceeds since the pipeline from project release to operator consumption tends to be elongated. | 18:43 |
| TheJulia | ppiela: This may also be a topic to raise on the operators mailing list | 18:43 |
| TheJulia | jroll: Thoughts? | 18:43 |
| * jroll in another meeting, catches up | 18:44 | |
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| ppiela | TheJulia: sounds good | 18:44 |
| jroll | TheJulia: thoughts on how to get feedback, you mean? | 18:44 |
| TheJulia | jroll: Yes | 18:44 |
| jroll | I've always had trouble with that, the ops list is a good place to start | 18:44 |
| TheJulia | ppiela: Would you like to seek feedback, or would you like someone else to actively seek feedback from the operators mailing list? | 18:45 |
| jroll | I'd be curious how many ops are running a "reasonable" version of -ui | 18:45 |
| jroll | recent might be a better word | 18:45 |
| TheJulia | jroll: Same | 18:45 |
| ppiela | TheJulia: We have a strong dependency on the structure of the language used to describe driver properties. Just want to make a note of that. | 18:46 |
| ppiela | TheJulia: I will reach out to the operators | 18:47 |
| TheJulia | Ahh yes, since we have no way of otherwise really determining required items. | 18:47 |
| TheJulia | ppiela: Awesome | 18:47 |
| TheJulia | #action ppiela to seek feedback from the Operators Mailing list. | 18:48 |
| TheJulia | ppiela: I'll see if I can chat up a solution to help us with the driver properties. | 18:48 |
| ppiela | TheJulia: We extract a bunch of metadata like: default, enumerated values, dependency relationships | 18:49 |
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| TheJulia | #info Presently ironic-ui extracts metadata from descriptions about driver property values to convey defaults, values, dependency relationships. This needs raised visibility and consistency in ironic's drivers, or some other solution to help provide clarity to users. | 18:51 |
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| TheJulia | We have about 8 minutes remaining, is there anything else to discuss today? | 18:52 |
| ppiela | TheJulia: One of the primary use cases I see for the UI is debugging failed deployments. Not sure if others agree? | 18:53 |
| ppiela | If so, is there more data that we can collect and present. My experience is that people are spending a bunch of time grepping logs | 18:54 |
| TheJulia | We don't surface a huge amount of failure related data via the API, but as a community we are working on improving that. Maybe provide insight into potentially missing fields, but that would be more "something might be missing", however clean-up operations wipes some of that off of the API if memory serves. | 18:56 |
| TheJulia | I do agree though, there is value in that visibility for an operator | 18:56 |
| TheJulia | Well, we're almost out of time, I hope this has helped everyone. :) | 18:57 |
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| ppiela | I was wondering if interesting failure data might be generated in terms of notifications to telemetry | 18:58 |
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| ppiela | TheJulia: Thanks for organizing | 18:58 |
| TheJulia | ppiela: That is definitely something to ponder :) | 18:58 |
| TheJulia | Thank you everyone for attending, and we'll chat again next week! :) | 18:58 |
| soliosg | Discussion was really helpful. Thank you everyone. | 18:58 |
| crushil | Thanks everyone. \o/ | 18:58 |
| TheJulia | #endmeeting | 18:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 7 18:59:11 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_ui/2017/ironic_ui.2017-03-07-18.00.html | 18:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_ui/2017/ironic_ui.2017-03-07-18.00.txt | 18:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_ui/2017/ironic_ui.2017-03-07-18.00.log.html | 18:59 |
| mgould | o/ | 18:59 |
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