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| tfukushima | #startmeeting kuryr | 03:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 23 03:00:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tfukushima. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 03:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 03:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 03:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 03:00 |
| tfukushima | Who's up for the Kuryr regular meeting except for me? | 03:00 |
| baohua | hi | 03:01 |
| fawadkhaliq | hi tfukushima | 03:01 |
| baohua | im here | 03:01 |
| tfukushima | Hi baohua and fawadkhaliq. | 03:01 |
| baohua | morning tfukushima | 03:01 |
| tfukushima | Good morning (and possibly evening) guys. | 03:02 |
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| baohua | not see today's agenda, anyone can share? | 03:02 |
| tfukushima | #info baohua,fawadkhaliq and tfukushima present | 03:02 |
| tfukushima | #link Today's agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Kuryr#Meeting_February_23.2C_2016 | 03:02 |
| baohua | thanks!~ | 03:03 |
| tfukushima | Ok, let's start with a topic, which is ... | 03:03 |
| tfukushima | #topic Deployment | 03:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Deployment (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 03:03 | |
| tfukushima | Ok, apuimedo submitted a patch for systemd patch. | 03:04 |
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| tfukushima | #link systemd patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280939/ | 03:05 |
| tfukushima | #link dockerization patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/279320/ | 03:05 |
| tfukushima | And dockerfile patch. | 03:05 |
| tfukushima | Nice. Please review them when you have some time. | 03:06 |
| fawadkhaliq | sure will do | 03:06 |
| tfukushima | #topic Existing Networks | 03:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Existing Networks (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 03:07 | |
| tfukushima | It seems banix posted a WIP patch for that. | 03:07 |
| tfukushima | #link banix's existing network patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280948/ | 03:07 |
| tfukushima | I haven't updated my devref and need to talk to him to coordinate the patch and the doc. | 03:08 |
| tfukushima | #action tfukushima talks to banix to coordinate the patch and the doc. | 03:09 |
| tfukushima | And someone is trying to add "description" field for all Neutron resources. | 03:09 |
| tfukushima | #link description field patch for Neutron https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269887/ | 03:10 |
| tfukushima | This could help to hold the Docker ID of the libnetwork resources beside the readable name. | 03:10 |
| tfukushima | #topic Nested Containers and Magnum Integration | 03:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Nested Containers and Magnum Integration (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 03:11 | |
| tfukushima | #link nested container spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269039/ | 03:11 |
| tfukushima | fawadkhaliq: What has been updated since the last time? | 03:11 |
| fawadkhaliq | tfukushima: we discussed that the use-case of supporting native tools instead of magnum would be considered later | 03:12 |
| fawadkhaliq | however, we decided otherwise in the last IRC meeting | 03:12 |
| fawadkhaliq | and going ahead with supporting native tools as well | 03:12 |
| fawadkhaliq | so to cater for that use-case | 03:13 |
| fawadkhaliq | I have updated the spec | 03:13 |
| fawadkhaliq | it's out for review | 03:13 |
| fawadkhaliq | please review so we can converge on this soon | 03:13 |
| tfukushima | fawadkhaliq: I see. Thanks. | 03:13 |
| baohua | done today :) | 03:13 |
| fawadkhaliq | baohua: thanks | 03:13 |
| tfukushima | #action tfukushima reviews the nested container spec | 03:13 |
| tfukushima | #topic Kubernetes Integration | 03:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Kubernetes Integration (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 03:14 | |
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| tfukushima | irenab submitted a patch for k8s integration spec. | 03:15 |
| tfukushima | #link k8s integration spec proposal https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281132/ | 03:15 |
| tfukushima | fawadkhaliq: "Using K8 Python client from Magnum" Is this what you were talking about? | 03:16 |
| fawadkhaliq | yes, that's like one of the native tools I suppose. | 03:16 |
| tfukushima | Ok, if it's networking-backend agnostic, it'd be fine but I'm a bit concerned they're still strongly assuming flannel. | 03:18 |
| tfukushima | Anyways we'll see. | 03:18 |
| fawadkhaliq | flannel, kuryr will be different options | 03:18 |
| fawadkhaliq | and kuryr will potentially be the default once its there | 03:18 |
| tfukushima | So regarding "Syncing the binding part and the watcher part", we, for instance I and gsagie had the discussion about it. | 03:19 |
| tfukushima | How to arrange the timing of these two parts. We're still figuring it out though. | 03:20 |
| tfukushima | The idea is that there'd be a watcher along side of the k8s apiserver and watches the events related to pods and services. | 03:21 |
| tfukushima | And create Neutron resources mapping k8s resources to Neutron's ones. | 03:22 |
| fawadkhaliq | I see | 03:22 |
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| tfukushima | Then the agent-ish component on each worker binds the veth endpoint to the virtual port, Neutron port. | 03:22 |
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| fawadkhaliq | btw, is there a document which captures all this information? | 03:23 |
| tfukushima | I thought ireanb's spec contained it but it didn't really. | 03:24 |
| fawadkhaliq | maybe it will be added later | 03:25 |
| fawadkhaliq | since its a wip | 03:25 |
| tfukushima | Some discussions have the mention about it. | 03:26 |
| tfukushima | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-kuryr/%23openstack-kuryr.2016-02-03.log.html | 03:26 |
| tfukushima | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-01-26-15.03.log.html | 03:26 |
| tfukushima | But not in the legitimate doc. | 03:26 |
| tfukushima | #action apuimedo, gsagie and irenab describe about the details of the watcher and port binder in the sepc. | 03:27 |
| tfukushima | #topic Fullstack / Rally tests | 03:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Fullstack / Rally tests (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 03:27 | |
| tfukushima | baohua: Do you have anything to say on this topic? | 03:27 |
| baohua | yes, | 03:28 |
| baohua | done a framework and the patch got merged recently. | 03:28 |
| baohua | i will add more scenarios, and welcome for review and code patches :) | 03:28 |
| tfukushima | Nice. | 03:28 |
| baohua | https://review.openstack.org/274014 | 03:28 |
| baohua | merged patch here | 03:28 |
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| baohua | sure tfukushima | 03:29 |
| baohua | i will work will gal on more fullstack testing and rally testing | 03:29 |
| baohua | 2nd will --> with | 03:29 |
| tfukushima | Now I can see "gate-kuryr-dsvm-fullstack-nv" and "gate-kuryr-dsvm-rally-nv" on patch pages. | 03:30 |
| tfukushima | That's very nice to see. | 03:30 |
| baohua | :) | 03:30 |
| fawadkhaliq | baohua: nice, will review | 03:30 |
| baohua | thanks tfukushima fawadkhaliq | 03:30 |
| tfukushima | #topic Open Discussions | 03:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussions (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 03:31 | |
| tfukushima | Does anyone have any topic to be shared ant want to talk about it? | 03:32 |
| fawadkhaliq | tfukushima: nothing from my side today | 03:32 |
| baohua | nothing for me | 03:32 |
| tfukushima | Good. | 03:32 |
| tfukushima | Oh, I forgot to add an action. | 03:33 |
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| tfukushima | #action baohua and gsagie add few more fullstack and rally tests | 03:33 |
| baohua | ok | 03:33 |
| tfukushima | Ok, guys. Let's finish the meeting earlier today. | 03:33 |
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| baohua | sure, thanks everyone ~ | 03:34 |
| fawadkhaliq | thanks, bye | 03:34 |
| tfukushima | Thank you for your participations, folks. | 03:34 |
| tfukushima | #endmeeting | 03:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 03:34 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 23 03:34:32 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-02-23-03.00.html | 03:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-02-23-03.00.txt | 03:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-02-23-03.00.log.html | 03:34 |
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| carl_baldwin | Hi. Sorry I messed up the time today because of travel to mid cycle. | 14:20 |
| todin | Hi, no problem | 14:21 |
| vikram__ | ;) | 14:22 |
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| EmilienM | #startmeeting puppet-openstack | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 23 15:00:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'puppet_openstack' | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | #link agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-20160223 | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | o/ | 15:00 |
| mwhahaha | hi | 15:00 |
| clayton | o/ | 15:00 |
| mfisch | good morning | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | #topic Review past action items | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review past action items (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:00 | |
| bkero | o/ | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | EmilienM to push a mitaka beta tag: need to be postponed due to CI issues | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to push a mitaka beta tag once our CI is stable | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | mfisch and chem to initiate a blueprint about admin_token_auth deprecation | 15:01 |
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| EmilienM | mfisch, chhavi: postponed? | 15:01 |
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| mfisch | yeah | 15:01 |
| mfisch | no action, probably none this week | 15:01 |
| _ody | o/ | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | ok | 15:01 |
| _ody | lurking for a bit. Need to get kid ready for school. | 15:01 |
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| EmilienM | #action mfisch & chem postpone blueprint about admin_token_auth deprecation | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | #topic mailing list | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "mailing list (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:02 | |
| EmilienM | mfisch: o/ | 15:02 |
| mfisch | yo | 15:02 |
| mfisch | ok im up | 15:02 |
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| richm | hello | 15:03 |
| mfisch | first is mailing list... its possible to subscribe to openstack-dev and just to the [puppet] tag | 15:03 |
| mfisch | and I'd like everyone to do so, especially if you are core | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | or if you want to become | 15:03 |
| mfisch | when you subscribe you can choose the topics you want | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | but yeah, it's a basic thing to subscribe & read e-mails if you want to get involved | 15:03 |
| clayton | did the old mailing list get removed entirely? If not might be worth posting that there also | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | clayton: nobody is using it for long time, I guess we can close it | 15:04 |
| mfisch | yes lets close iut | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | I'm not admin though, we might need to ask Hunner or _ody | 15:04 |
| mfisch | action? | 15:04 |
| clayton | should probably post an update about how to subscribe to openstack-dev tags there before closing it though | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | #action _ody / Hunner to close puppetlabs-openstack mailing list | 15:04 |
| clayton | so people wondering why it's so quiet know what they should do | 15:04 |
| mfisch | its been almost a year since we used it | 15:05 |
| * _ody will make it happen | 15:05 | |
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| EmilienM | right, _ody can send a last email about that on this ML | 15:05 |
| mfisch | #action _ody to close old ML and tell people to subscribe to the new one | 15:05 |
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| EmilienM | mfisch: thx for pointing that out | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | the excuse "oh e-mails... so much traffic" does not work anymore ;-) | 15:06 |
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| EmilienM | #topic keystone::python deprecation | 15:06 |
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| EmilienM | mfisch: again ! | 15:06 |
| mfisch | yay me | 15:06 |
| mfisch | ok | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | we have some reviews | 15:06 |
| clayton | I think it's important to give people good instructions on how to subscribe to the tag vs just tell people to do it | 15:06 |
| clayton | it's not obvious | 15:06 |
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| bkero | thank you | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | clayton: right, does OpenStack provide an official guide? | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | there is https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists | 15:07 |
| clayton | not sure, when I looked a year ago I couldn't find one, but that doesn't mean it didn't exist | 15:07 |
| clayton | I found an explanation from fungi I think that said how to do it | 15:07 |
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| mfisch | crinkle explained it to me once | 15:07 |
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| mfisch | but once I found it it, its easy | 15:08 |
| xingchao | I think https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Puppet/Mailing_lists is clear | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | #undo | 15:08 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0xa11e7d0> | 15:08 |
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| EmilienM | specially https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists#Future_Development | 15:08 |
| mfisch | that explains it | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | it's well explained here, I don't where is trouble. | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | bkero: did you read it? | 15:09 |
| bkero | I did | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | cool | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | do we have more questions about ML? | 15:09 |
| mfisch | thanks for finding that link | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | cool | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | so keystone::python deprecation | 15:10 |
| mfisch | ok | 15:10 |
| mfisch | so I found an ancient class called keystone::python and all it does is install keystoneclient | 15:10 |
| mfisch | just like keystone::client | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | we have 4 commits: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282065 - https://review.openstack.org/283376 - https://review.openstack.org/283377 and https://review.openstack.org/283378 | 15:10 |
| mfisch | for some reason things like glance and neutron are pulling it in | 15:10 |
| mfisch | references from like 2013 | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | it's part of legacy code iirc | 15:11 |
| mfisch | so I'd like to make this class do nothing except warn and remove all the warnings | 15:11 |
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| mfisch | then remove it completely in N | 15:11 |
| mfisch | I dont see any reason why glance::api needs to install the keystoneclient | 15:11 |
| mfisch | (for example) | 15:11 |
| clayton | agreed | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | right | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | it's up to packaging dependencies to solve this problem, I think | 15:12 |
| mfisch | so we can discuss more in the reviews | 15:12 |
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| mfisch | thats it for that topic | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | they are all lgtm, except the puppet-keystone | 15:12 |
| mfisch | you +2d it? | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | no, I -1'ed | 15:12 |
| mfisch | ah denis did | 15:12 |
| mfisch | yep I see I will fix | 15:12 |
| mfisch | you're right | 15:12 |
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| EmilienM | we have a last topic in the agenda | 15:13 |
| mfisch | me agin! | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | #topic r10k path and testing | 15:13 |
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| EmilienM | mfisch: hello ! | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | he's hot | 15:13 |
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| mfisch | I brought this up on the ML but it's been frustrating that I can't run unit tests easily since r10k is not installed properly | 15:13 |
| mfisch | I'd been just pushing rveiews and letting jenkins find issues which is a waste of time | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | that's something we need to adress, indeed | 15:14 |
| mfisch | I dont honestly know much about how those deps are installed | 15:14 |
| mfisch | isnt r10k listed as a requirement? | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | it's weird you're the only one to complain until now | 15:14 |
| clayton | well, it's not in your path, it is installed properly | 15:14 |
| clayton | I've had the same issue. | 15:14 |
| mfisch | its not that it its not in my path | 15:14 |
| clayton | it happens if you set GEM_HOME before running bundler | 15:14 |
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| mfisch | its not in the path the code wants it to be in | 15:14 |
| mfisch | usually /foo/1.9.1/bin | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | I run a script to execute testing: https://gist.github.com/EmilienM/61d590a89c44364d0436 | 15:15 |
| clayton | I don't think it happens if you use gemsets or some such | 15:15 |
| mfisch | all I run is bundle install && bundle exec rake spec | 15:15 |
| clayton | EmilienM: do you have r10k installed on the test system? | 15:15 |
| mfisch | bottom line it should be easy and work out of the box, I dont know enough about gems to discuss more intelligently than that | 15:15 |
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| EmilienM | clayton: no, it installs it everytime in my temp dir | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: you're right, it should work out of the box | 15:16 |
| clayton | I'm not sure how it's finding the r10k binary then, since I think all the tooling assumes its in your path | 15:16 |
| bkero | Is there a more sane way? | 15:16 |
| mfisch | the tooling wants it to be somewhere pretty specific | 15:16 |
| mfisch | it's not just running "r10k" its specifying a full path from what I saw | 15:16 |
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| clayton | maybe I'm misremembering then. I did have the same issue a while back | 15:17 |
| clayton | I thought I added it to my path temporarily as a work around | 15:17 |
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| mfisch | clayton: I ended up symlinking the installed copy from /usr/local/bin into where it was looking | 15:18 |
| mfisch | should we just file a bug for this and move on? | 15:18 |
| mwhahaha | can we create a bug with all of the details like steps to reproduce? some of the problem is that it doesn't happen to everyone | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | yes, please file a bug | 15:18 |
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| mwhahaha | seems like an environment thing | 15:18 |
| mfisch | which project? | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | the one you like | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | it affects all modules | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | let's start with keystone module | 15:19 |
| mfisch | ok | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | thanks | 15:19 |
| mfisch | #action mfisch to file bug on r10k issue during spec tests | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | #action mfisch to create a bug about r10k path & testing | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | #undo | 15:20 |
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| EmilienM | anything else? | 15:20 |
| mfisch | no, thanks | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | #topic open discussion | 15:20 |
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| EmilienM | if you have outstanding bugs / patches, go ahead | 15:21 |
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| EmilienM | mwhahaha: where are we with puppet-glance CI? | 15:21 |
| mwhahaha | not sure i haven't had a chance to dig into https://bugs.launchpad.net/puppet-glance/+bug/1548515 much | 15:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1548515 in puppet-glance "glance acceptance failing after removal of keystone auth token" [Critical,Confirmed] | 15:21 |
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| mwhahaha | i'm going to try and take a look later today if i get time but for now glance is broke | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | mwhahaha: I'll look too | 15:23 |
| EmilienM | I just got some inputs from jamespage on #openstack-dev about updates in Ubuntu that will likely break puppet-neutron | 15:23 |
| EmilienM | specially in config file management & also packaging renames... | 15:23 |
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| EmilienM | anything else for today? | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | short & effective. Have a nice week all | 15:24 |
| bkero | Thanks guys | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 15:24 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 23 15:24:46 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-02-23-15.00.html | 15:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-02-23-15.00.txt | 15:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-02-23-15.00.log.html | 15:24 |
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| mugsie | #startmeeting Kosmos | 16:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 23 16:06:26 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:06 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kosmos' | 16:06 |
| mugsie | #topic Roll Call | 16:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Kosmos)" | 16:06 | |
| mugsie | xgerman: minwang2 dougwig - courtesy ping | 16:07 |
| minwang2 | o/ | 16:07 |
| dougwig | o/, but at neutron mid-cycle | 16:07 |
| mugsie | ah - is that this week? | 16:07 |
| mugsie | this should be short | 16:07 |
| mugsie | any updates? | 16:08 |
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| minwang2 | not from my side | 16:08 |
| mugsie | OK. I should say that I may have to move my focus off of Kosmos a bit more, we have internal releases that need more tlc than anticipated | 16:09 |
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| johnsom | o/ | 16:09 |
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| mugsie | o/ | 16:10 |
| mugsie | for johnsom - I just said : "OK. I should say that I may have to move my focus off of Kosmos a bit more, we have internal releases that need more tlc than anticipated" | 16:10 |
| johnsom | Sorry, running a bit late today. How is it going mugsie? | 16:10 |
| mugsie | not bad - busy :) | 16:10 |
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| johnsom | Yeah, that release is distracting me as well and Octavia is hot right now trying to land L7 | 16:11 |
| mugsie | if anyone is interested in stepping up and taking on the PTLship, please do | 16:11 |
| johnsom | Sorry, but I can't step forward for that right now | 16:11 |
| dougwig | i will if you can't, though my ability to get the api stuff submitted shows my distraction level as well. | 16:11 |
| mugsie | johnsom: I figured you would be in the same boat | 16:12 |
| mugsie | (as me) | 16:12 |
| mugsie | yeah. | 16:12 |
| johnsom | dougwig Tag, you're it | 16:12 |
| mugsie | on that note, I was thinking of asking the track chairs to pull our talk in Austin | 16:12 |
| mugsie | any objections to that? | 16:12 |
| dougwig | johnsom knows how much i hate talking. | 16:13 |
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| mugsie | :D | 16:13 |
| johnsom | No. Too bad, it could be a good recruitment opportunity. | 16:13 |
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| mugsie | yeah. I just dont think we will have anything to talk about at the time, and that would be worse | 16:13 |
| dougwig | ok, i can keep the lights on until your releases calm down. | 16:14 |
| mugsie | cool | 16:14 |
| johnsom | Yes, if we don't have a demo, we don't exist | 16:14 |
| mugsie | #action dougwig take over $all_the_things | 16:14 |
| * dougwig advances a small step in taking over the world. | 16:14 | |
| johnsom | All hail dougwig | 16:15 |
| * mugsie bows to the new glorious leader | 16:15 | |
| mugsie | any other items? | 16:15 |
| dougwig | let's let folks reclaim the time. | 16:16 |
| mugsie | ++ | 16:16 |
| mugsie | #endmeeting | 16:16 |
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| johnsom | Thanks | 16:16 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 23 16:16:37 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:16 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kosmos/2016/kosmos.2016-02-23-16.06.html | 16:16 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kosmos/2016/kosmos.2016-02-23-16.06.txt | 16:16 |
| minwang2 | thanks | 16:16 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kosmos/2016/kosmos.2016-02-23-16.06.log.html | 16:16 |
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| sridhar_ram | #startmeeting tacker | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 23 17:00:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sridhar_ram. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 17:00 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Roll Call | 17:00 |
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| vishwana_ | o/ | 17:00 |
| dkushwaha_ | o/ | 17:00 |
| sridhar_ram | who is here for tacker ? | 17:00 |
| brucet | hello | 17:00 |
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| prashantD | o/ | 17:01 |
| sripriya | o/ | 17:01 |
| santoshk | Hello | 17:01 |
| sridhar_ram | howdy everyone! | 17:01 |
| sridhar_ram | lets start... | 17:01 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Agenda | 17:01 |
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| sridhar_ram | #info #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Tacker#Meeting_Feb_23.2C_2016 | 17:01 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Annoucements | 17:01 |
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| sridhar_ram | Big tent application is under review by OpenStack TC - #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276417 | 17:02 |
| sridhar_ram | progressing well with many +1 votes! | 17:02 |
| vishwana_ | way to go | 17:03 |
| sripriya | nice! | 17:04 |
| sridhar_ram | Mitaka release schedule is at #link http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/schedule.html | 17:04 |
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| sridhar_ram | we are at R-6 (release - 6weeks) | 17:04 |
| sridhar_ram | the windows is closing soon for Mitaka :( | 17:04 |
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| sridhar_ram | Nothing else to announce from my side... | 17:05 |
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| sridhar_ram | hope we will have something *big* to announce next week :) | 17:05 |
| vishwana_ | looking forward to that big announcement | 17:05 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwana_: yep | 17:05 |
| sridhar_ram | fingers crossed! | 17:06 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Enhanced VNF Placement update | 17:06 |
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| sridhar_ram | Spec at #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257847 | 17:06 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwana_: can you please share updates where we are ? | 17:06 |
| vishwana_ | sridhar_ram, sure.... | 17:06 |
| vishwana_ | FYI: I have an initial Work In Progress patchset https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269295/ that validates some of whats documented in the blueprint.... | 17:08 |
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| vishwana_ | I have been able to test successfully the VNFD template proposals in the blueprint for CPU Pinning, Huge Pages, NUMA topology in my WIP patchset.... | 17:09 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwana_: cool, what is remaining to wrap up the spec ? | 17:10 |
| vishwana_ | I anticipate that the VNFD template proposal will undergo changes in terminology with feedback from Bob and you ..... | 17:10 |
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| sridhar_ram | vishwana_: yes, I'm working with TOSCA nfv group to introduce these granular cpu-archiecture attributes in TOSCA NFV profile.. | 17:11 |
| vishwana_ | I am currently calling out some properties under host section .... | 17:12 |
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| sridhar_ram | vishwana_: current thought is it will be moved as "capabilities" of the VDU node itself | 17:12 |
| vishwana_ | I expect those to be renamed as tosca.nodes.Compute | 17:12 |
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| sridhar_ram | vishwana_: okay | 17:13 |
| vishwana_ | sridhar_ram, yes | 17:13 |
| sridhar_ram | I can help to get the template part of this spec. | 17:14 |
| vishwana_ | the one other major part is to see how sr-iov capability would be specified.... | 17:14 |
| sridhar_ram | ignoring tacker for a moment, how it is specified in heat hot templates ? | 17:15 |
| brucet | vishwna_: This was going to bemy question | 17:15 |
| brucet | Is the plan to translate everything to HOT? If so, the spec should have an example translation. | 17:15 |
| vishwana_ | sridhar_ram, brucet, great question ... | 17:16 |
| vishwana_ | I am currently in the midst of setting up a server with a Intel NIC card that has SR-IOV capabilities.... | 17:16 |
| vishwana_ | am first trying to make sure that I am successfully able to create a SR-IOV port using neutron followed by booting a VM using Nova by specifying the sriov port... | 17:17 |
| brucet | So first test a non automated setup | 17:18 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwana_: make sense | 17:19 |
| vishwana_ | have run into some issues ..... consulting with sgordon to resolve the issue.....once the issue is resolved, I will investigate how it works with heat | 17:19 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwana_: sounds good / rather practical ! | 17:19 |
| sridhar_ram | given our release timeline, my suggestion would be keep sr-iov as a stretch goal and in a separate patchset .. | 17:20 |
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| sridhar_ram | let the CPU related placement be on the initial patchset and continue review, merge.. | 17:20 |
| vishwana_ | sridhar_ram, great suggestion, makes sense keeping the release timeline in mind | 17:20 |
| sridhar_ram | I don't want to risk this whole feature just for sr-iov... | 17:21 |
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| sridhar_ram | however, as I imagine, you would keep pushing to get sr-iov in.. we still have room | 17:21 |
| vishwana_ | from closing the spec perspective, I need to respond to bobh and your initial comments and incorporate the TOSCA NVF terminology | 17:21 |
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| sridhar_ram | lets make a call on sr-iov by end of this week... | 17:22 |
| vishwana_ | those are the items I think of as big items for now as related to closing the spec..... | 17:22 |
| sridhar_ram | whether it is going to stay in this spec or will get split out into a separate one | 17:22 |
| vishwana_ | sridhar_ram, agree on the call by end of the week for sr-iov | 17:22 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwana_: sounds good, anything else ? | 17:23 |
| sridhar_ram | anyone else have any question on this topic ? | 17:23 |
| vishwana_ | sridhar_ram, I am expecting that network creation will be part of automatic resource creation and will be leveraged by the enhanced vnf code | 17:24 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwana_: for sr-iov part ? | 17:24 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: EPA will consume tosca parser changes from bobh? | 17:24 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: yes | 17:25 |
| vishwana_ | sridhar_ram, in general for both any networks specified as part of network_interfaces section under VDU | 17:25 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwana_: you should plan to move your WIP to be based on bobh's WIP | 17:25 |
| * sridhar_ram looking for bobh's WIP link | 17:25 | |
| sripriya | so there is no extra functionality to be handled by Tacker or is the entire template offloaded to tosca parser? | 17:26 |
| sridhar_ram | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278121/ | 17:26 |
| sridhar_ram | there are two parts... | 17:26 |
| vishwana_ | sridhar_ram, makes sense that my WIP be based on bobh's WIP | 17:27 |
| sridhar_ram | 1) the spec portion will go into tosca-parser (or for now stay in tacker_nfv.yaml overlay over nfv profile) | 17:27 |
| sridhar_ram | 2) HOT translation portion need to be coded in tacker itself (and not in heat-translator) | 17:27 |
| vishwana_ | I see | 17:28 |
| sripriya | ah ok.. | 17:28 |
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| brucet | <sridar_ram> I thought that the HOT generator was also part of the translator | 17:28 |
| brucet | TOSCA NFV >> Intermediate format >> Hot or Tacker feature implementation | 17:29 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: as discussed in previous call there will be a portion of HOT translation in tacker related to flavor creation | 17:29 |
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| brucet | Meaning that the flavor is created outside of HOT?? | 17:30 |
| sridhar_ram | heat-translator's flavor handling is something we couldn't consume.. | 17:30 |
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| sridhar_ram | bobh would have the answer, he is not around today | 17:31 |
| brucet | OK. | 17:31 |
| sridhar_ram | we don't have both bobh and tbh in this call today.. there are in the food chain in front of vishwana_ | 17:32 |
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| sridhar_ram | that would flush out our dependencies .. | 17:32 |
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| vishwana_ | agree | 17:33 |
| sridhar_ram | anything else on this? if not lets move on.. | 17:33 |
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| sridhar_ram | #topic Liberty Release updates | 17:34 |
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| sridhar_ram | For the folks who weren't tracking... | 17:34 |
| sridhar_ram | we have a stable/liberty but we haven't pushed a release pypi for liberty.. | 17:34 |
| sridhar_ram | it was pending on few things .. particularly on device API deprecation | 17:35 |
| sridhar_ram | now dkushwaha is helping to get the deprecation done... | 17:35 |
| sridhar_ram | now I'm looking to make a liberty release once that lands | 17:36 |
| dkushwaha_ | sridhar_ram, most probably I will finish it by tomorrow | 17:36 |
| sridhar_ram | if anyone have some critical things they need to see it into Liberty please cherrypick ASAP | 17:36 |
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| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha_: np, thanks for the getting this in! | 17:37 |
| sridhar_ram | this release will be consumed by few downstream projects like OPNFV | 17:37 |
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| sridhar_ram | moving on... | 17:38 |
| sridhar_ram | #link VNF Scaling | 17:38 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic VNF Scaling | 17:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "VNF Scaling (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 17:38 | |
| sridhar_ram | I'd like to have some preliminary discussion on VNF scaling ... particularly at the requirement level | 17:39 |
| brucet | <sridhar_ram> did you see my email yesterday?? | 17:39 |
| sridhar_ram | what kind of VNF scaling you folks would like to see "enabled" through Tacker ? | 17:39 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: yes, | 17:40 |
| brucet | OK. | 17:40 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: sorry didn't had time to reply, we should do these discussion in the ML, btw | 17:40 |
| brucet | ML?? | 17:40 |
| brucet | Mailing list | 17:40 |
| brucet | OK | 17:40 |
| brucet | I'll send now | 17:41 |
| sridhar_ram | mailing-list - openstack-dev with [tacker] tag | 17:41 |
| prashantD | sridhar_ram : we have any input from outside, about what are interested in? | 17:41 |
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| sridhar_ram | however I want to intentionally skip the implementation for a moment and think about what make sense for NFV operator | 17:41 |
| brucet | OK | 17:42 |
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| sridhar_ram | prashantD: I can share what I've been asked to provide off tacker.. I'd also like to get folks opinion here ... | 17:43 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: prashantD: my questions are around manual scaling vs auto scaling... | 17:44 |
| sridhar_ram | if auto-scaling are we looking at traditional cpu load | 17:44 |
| brucet | I would think you would want to take any type of application generated signal to trigger a scaling operation. | 17:45 |
| brucet | I think this can actually be done with Heat using signals | 17:45 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: agree, scaling based on "triggers".. | 17:45 |
| sridhar_ram | trigger could be from application or even some external monitoring s/w | 17:46 |
| brucet | Yes | 17:46 |
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| sridhar_ram | one of the trigger could be manual ? from the operator ? | 17:46 |
| brucet | Yes | 17:47 |
| sridhar_ram | btw, there are some operators interested in manual "VNF" scaling .. when tacker is used as a VNF manager. | 17:47 |
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| brucet | remember the discussion on Senlin a while ago? | 17:47 |
| brucet | I know Senlin includes a method for an application to generate a trigger. | 17:48 |
| sridhar_ram | there would be a higher level NSD getting a scale up event and NSO will call Tacker to scale up and that scale up will look like "manual" scale up request | 17:48 |
| brucet | And Senlin functionality will ve incorporated into Heat as Resources | 17:48 |
| brucet | That's the approach I would use | 17:49 |
| sridhar_ram | yeah, we need to look into Senlin, I checked with their PTL, heat resource for Senlin resources will be available in Miraka | 17:49 |
| brucet | Ah... Very good | 17:49 |
| sridhar_ram | I'm trying to see how we could stack the chips.. | 17:49 |
| sridhar_ram | get a simple "trigger" based scale up / down framework.. | 17:50 |
| brucet | The problem that I see is there is nothing defined in Tosca NFV for scaling policy | 17:50 |
| sridhar_ram | a specific VDU will scale up / down within a {min, max} range | 17:50 |
| sridhar_ram | there are some constructs in Simple Profile we can consume | 17:51 |
| brucet | Yes. But where would trigger be defined? | 17:51 |
| sridhar_ram | they have a nice event --> trigger --> action sequence | 17:51 |
| brucet | For triggers?? | 17:51 |
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| brucet | If you could point me to it I qwould appreciate | 17:51 |
| prashantD | sridhar_ram, brucet: yes, how will user trigger scale event with senlin? | 17:51 |
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| brucet | There is an HTTP based API that Senlin listens for to trigger events | 17:52 |
| sridhar_ram | IMO we need a tacker VDU trigger into Senlin to be in the loop.. | 17:52 |
| prashantD | i see, so user will have to use a non-tacker interface to trigger scale event? | 17:53 |
| sridhar_ram | this trigger could be used (a) for manual scale request coming to tacker or (b) any mon driver in tacker getting a "scale up" resp | 17:53 |
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| brucet | You could abstract the Senlin interface with a Tacker interface | 17:53 |
| brucet | So NFV app >> Tacker Trigger >> Senlin Trigger | 17:53 |
| sridhar_ram | yeah, something like that.. | 17:54 |
| brucet | Or if Tosca defines triggers then this could be used to drive Senlin Trigger API | 17:54 |
| sridhar_ram | prashantD: we need some experimentation trying out Senlin | 17:54 |
| brucet | I actually thought there was a trigger mechanism in Heat today without Senlin. | 17:55 |
| brucet | I can check into this. | 17:55 |
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| prashantD | brucet : in heat there is a stack-update | 17:55 |
| brucet | And you send a signal?? | 17:55 |
| sridhar_ram | if I step back I see two models... (a) set and forget model - scale using cpu load, mem, etc that Senlin can figure out (b) based on trigger that Tacker will "facilitate" | 17:56 |
| prashantD | which allows you to scale and that is what i am doing | 17:56 |
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| brucet | OK | 17:56 |
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| brucet | If we could start without depending on Senlin I think that would be better | 17:56 |
| sridhar_ram | do you folks see value in implementing manual scaling using heat stack-update until we get some sense out of Senlin ? | 17:57 |
| brucet | Yes | 17:57 |
| brucet | The basics between manual and automated scaling are the same | 17:57 |
| sridhar_ram | prashantD: did you re-write your spec into one for manual scaling ? | 17:58 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: agree | 17:58 |
| brucet | You need to create an autoscaling group in Heat in both cases | 17:58 |
| prashantD | sridhar_ram : i wrote a separate manual scaling spec | 17:58 |
| brucet | Is there already a scaling spec? | 17:58 |
| * sridhar_ram almost out of time | 17:58 | |
| prashantD | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283163/ | 17:58 |
| brucet | I will look at this now | 17:58 |
| brucet | I didn;t know there was already a apec | 17:59 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: prashantD: lets continue the discussion in that spec.. | 17:59 |
| prashantD | brucet : there is also a auto-scaling one, based on ceilometer though | 17:59 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: looks this showed up could be days back :) | 17:59 |
| sridhar_ram | lets continue the discussion next week.. | 17:59 |
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| brucet | In any case, I'll be happy to review exosting spec. | 17:59 |
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| brucet | No need to send email to list then. | 18:00 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: agree, lets continue in gerrit! | 18:00 |
| sridhar_ram | times up.. | 18:00 |
| sridhar_ram | thanks folks .. | 18:00 |
| sridhar_ram | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 23 18:00:32 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2016/tacker.2016-02-23-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2016/tacker.2016-02-23-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2016/tacker.2016-02-23-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
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| chhavi | marcusvm_: do we have a Nova Bug Screening meeting now | 18:10 |
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| auggy | i was wondering the same! | 18:13 |
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| auggy | chhavi: i don't see markus online | 18:14 |
| auggy | so i'm guessing not | 18:14 |
| chhavi | did not see any update for cancellation | 18:14 |
| thorst_ | I pinged him in openstack-nova. Might just need to be rescheduled | 18:15 |
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| auggy | yeah, we might need to reschedule | 18:17 |
| auggy | alright well i'm gonna drop out of the channel then | 18:17 |
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