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| tchaypo | tel | 06:59 |
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| tchaypo | \o | 06:59 |
| tchaypo | o/ | 06:59 |
| tchaypo | \o/ | 06:59 |
| shadower | hey | 06:59 |
| lsmola__ | _o_ | 07:00 |
| lsmola__ | \o/ | 07:00 |
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| jcoufal | zzzZZZzzz | 07:01 |
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| tchaypo | okay people, let's do this thing | 07:01 |
| GheRivero | o/ | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | jcoufal: thanks for arranging the dates for the meetup, and for hosting us | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | #startmeeting tripleo | 07:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 11 07:01:35 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tchaypo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 07:01 |
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| greghaynes | O/ | 07:02 |
| d0ugal | o/ | 07:02 |
| derekh_ | hi | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | #topic agenda | 07:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:02 | |
| tchaypo | bugs | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | reviews | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | Projects needing releases | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | CD Cloud status | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | CI | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | Tuskar | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | Insert one-off agenda items here | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | open discussion | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | #topic bugs | 07:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:02 | |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/ | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-apply-config | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config | 07:03 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-cloud-config | 07:03 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar | 07:03 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tuskarclient | 07:03 |
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| marios | hi all | 07:03 |
| tchaypo | I'm seeing one incomplete undecided and one new undecided in tripleo | 07:04 |
| tchaypo | much better than a fortnight ago | 07:04 |
| greghaynes | and no unassigned crits | 07:04 |
| tchaypo | I'm going to go ahead and assign https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1320090 to lifeless as I still can't figure out what he means by it | 07:05 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1320090 in tripleo "pxe_ephemeral_format': u'ext4 left on nodes after deploys deleted" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 07:05 |
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| pblaho | o/ | 07:06 |
| rpodolyaka | o/ | 07:06 |
| GheRivero | o/ | 07:06 |
| jistr | o/ | 07:06 |
| proffalken | o/ | 07:06 |
| tchaypo | GheRivero: I see that you've looked at https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1325762 a bit, do you have a feeling for where it's at now? | 07:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1325762 in tripleo "intermittent tftp issues using physical hardware" [Undecided,New] | 07:06 |
| GheRivero | it was a mellanox firmware issue | 07:07 |
| GheRivero | we haven't seen the same behavior after upgrading it. | 07:07 |
| tchaypo | Oh, there's a conclusion? That isn't documented on the issue. Do you know who would be well-placed to comment on that and close it out? | 07:07 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: so the bug is what it says | 07:07 |
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| GheRivero | tchaypo: I will assigned it to me to doc it | 07:07 |
| tchaypo | GheRivero: thanks :) | 07:08 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: its rather ironic specific; if you haven't looked at what ironic does during deploys, it wouldn't make sense | 07:08 |
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| tchaypo | lifeless: ah. That's probably why.. I noticed that it was ironic-specific and made a mental note to try another devstack run with USE_IRONIC=1 but haven't done that yet | 07:09 |
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| tchaypo | let's talk about that one after this meeting or tomorrow morning | 07:10 |
| tchaypo | Has anyone got anything to say about bugs in other projects? | 07:10 |
| tchaypo | #topic reviews | 07:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:11 | |
| tchaypo | because I'm lazy, here's something I prepared earlier | 07:11 |
| tchaypo | #link http://www.nemebean.com/reviewstats/tripleo-open.html | 07:11 |
| tchaypo | #link http://www.nemebean.com/reviewstats/tripleo-30.txt | 07:11 |
| tchaypo | #link http://www.nemebean.com/reviewstats/tripleo-90.txt | 07:11 |
| marios | which time do we look at again? | 07:12 |
| marios | average wait since last revision? | 07:12 |
| tchaypo | last revision without -1 or -2 | 07:12 |
| tchaypo | tats since the last revision without -1 or -2 : | 07:12 |
| tchaypo | Average wait time: 10 days, 10 hours, 18 minutes | 07:12 |
| tchaypo | 1rd quartile wait time: 4 days, 23 hours, 19 minutes | 07:12 |
| greghaynes | 7 days :/ | 07:12 |
| tchaypo | Median wait time: 7 days, 22 hours, 8 minutes | 07:12 |
| marios | so a bit better? | 07:12 |
| tchaypo | 3rd quartile wait time: 13 days, 19 hours, 17 minutes | 07:12 |
| tchaypo | last week that 3rd quartile was 12 days 7 hours | 07:12 |
| marios | yeah, a bit better | 07:12 |
| tchaypo | the median last week was 5 days 19 hours | 07:13 |
| tchaypo | to me it seems both of those have slipped | 07:13 |
| lifeless | worse yes | 07:13 |
| GheRivero | it's been a rough week in the gate | 07:13 |
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| tchaypo | even the average, last week, was 9 days 17 hours | 07:13 |
| marios | oh, i was thinking avg time w/out -1/-2 was like 11 last couple weeks? | 07:13 |
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| tchaypo | I think it was 11 4 weeks ago, and the 3rd quartile was a bit higher as well, but we'd been moving it in the right direction | 07:14 |
| tchaypo | 19:25:30 <lifeless> 1rd quartile wait time: 1 days, 1 hours, 11 minutes | 07:14 |
| tchaypo | 19:25:30 <lifeless> Median wait time: 6 days, 9 hours, 49 minutes | 07:14 |
| tchaypo | 19:25:30 <lifeless> 3rd quartile wait time: 13 days, 5 hours, 46 minutes | 07:14 |
| tchaypo | that's from http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-05-20-19.01.log.html | 07:14 |
| marios | i've been trying to clear out the oldest reviews this week. there's a fair bit of crud in there (like really small nits/changes) that ppl have moved on from/forgotten about | 07:14 |
| marios | rebases needed in a few places for example | 07:15 |
| tchaypo | so our 1st quartile has blown out from 1 to 4 days.. | 07:15 |
| tchaypo | As I understand it, simply giving those a -1 will remove them from that particular stat | 07:15 |
| marios | tchaypo: yeah been doing that where applicable | 07:15 |
| tchaypo | whether or not that counts as gaming the stats is a different matter - but where they're clearly stale I think that's a good move, it helps us see what still needs attention | 07:16 |
| marios | e.g. lifeless https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92509/ | 07:16 |
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| marios | probably a million other more important things you're doing and so it gets forgotten | 07:17 |
| * derekh_ would love to force abandon reviews that are clearly stale and forgotton about | 07:17 | |
| greghaynes | marios: that one a rebase would probably fix? | 07:17 |
| marios | pap8 | 07:17 |
| marios | pep even | 07:17 |
| greghaynes | Yes, but those tabs are there off master still? | 07:18 |
| tchaypo | Someone should be able to do the rebase and push the new patch and see if that fixes things | 07:18 |
| greghaynes | actually, youre right :/ | 07:18 |
| GheRivero | we should start hijacking those reviews waiting for a rebase or small nits | 07:18 |
| tchaypo | in cases where they fix is simple and obvious I'm in favour of other people helping out | 07:18 |
| marios | greghaynes: yeah, was a weird one because those tabs weren't introduced by lifeless | 07:18 |
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| greghaynes | yes, was going to propose that - for something where its straightforward (like a rebase) IMO just do it for them so we can keep moving forward | 07:19 |
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| tchaypo | Do we think this is worth of an email to the team asking people to pitch in? | 07:19 |
| marios | tchaypo: i think it's killing our review queue | 07:19 |
| GheRivero | tchaypo: +1 | 07:19 |
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| marios | tchaypo: i'd love more eyes because doing this stuff means you get to review less cutting edge reviews so may lose what's going on currently | 07:20 |
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| tchaypo | #action tchaypo to email the team highlighting the state of the review queue and asking for help rebasing/fixing up/reviewing old reviews | 07:20 |
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| tchaypo | Is there anything else for us to talk about here? | 07:20 |
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| tchaypo | no literally, I have crickets outside | 07:21 |
| tchaypo | #topic Projects needing releases | 07:21 |
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| lifeless | marios: so | 07:21 |
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| lifeless | marios: for that sort of thing, as a reviewer, I tend to just rebase it for them | 07:21 |
| rpodolyaka | tchaypo: I'm ready to help with that :) | 07:21 |
| lifeless | marios: or ping them on IRC to do something about it | 07:22 |
| rpodolyaka | (releases) | 07:22 |
| tchaypo | rpodolyaka: #action rpodolyaka to don the superhero suit and release all the things once more | 07:22 |
| lifeless | marios: mail from gerrit is basically useless because of overload. | 07:22 |
| lifeless | #oops | 07:22 |
| lifeless | [sorry for my slow responses here, this is my daughters bedtime, so that is taking priority] | 07:22 |
| tchaypo | urr. how to i figure out if meetbot heard that or not? | 07:22 |
| marios | lifeless: right. i wasn't sure what the 'etiquette' is with rebasing others patches. was just pointing it out. now that there is common understanding that we should go ahead and clear those out, will be doing so where possible | 07:22 |
| * tchaypo will pitch email as a clarification that "yea verily this is acceptable" rather than chiding | 07:23 | |
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| tchaypo | #action rpodolyaka to don the superhero suit and release all the things once more | 07:24 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: I believe you can find such collaborative stuff discussed previously on the -dev list | 07:24 |
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| tchaypo | With apologies to rpodolyaka if that shows up in the notes twice | 07:25 |
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| tchaypo | lifeless: thanks, I'll take a look and see if I can point back to earlier discussion | 07:25 |
| rpodolyaka | tchaypo: np :) | 07:25 |
| marios | rpodolyaka: 2 releases this week! | 07:25 |
| rpodolyaka | heh | 07:25 |
| lifeless | rpodolyaka: btw | 07:25 |
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| tchaypo | #topic CD Cloud status | 07:25 |
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| lifeless | rpodolyaka: have you seen my pbr semver spec ? | 07:25 |
| rpodolyaka | lifeless: not yet, do you have a link? | 07:25 |
| lifeless | rpodolyaka: I think it will help you a lot, would love your eyeballs on it | 07:25 |
| lifeless | rpodolyaka: review #96608 | 07:26 |
| rpodolyaka | lifeless: ok, will take a look, thanks! | 07:26 |
| tchaypo | Do we have anyone who can talk about CD cloud status? | 07:26 |
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| lifeless | tchaypo: derekh_ can, I can | 07:26 |
| tchaypo | derekh_: do I remember you talking about this two weeks ago, or is that my memory playing up? | 07:26 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: generally anyone in the tripleo-cd-admins team can | 07:26 |
| derekh_ | We're making progress on getting R1 back up and running but not their yet | 07:27 |
| derekh_ | looks like we got 41 working nodes to deploy onto | 07:27 |
| derekh_ | for the moment still running reduced load on R2 | 07:27 |
| tchaypo | lifeless: you've got important other commitments right now | 07:27 |
| derekh_ | btw while running reduced load | 07:27 |
| lifeless | shes down now so I'm here | 07:27 |
| tchaypo | derekh_: this is contributing to the gate buildup mentioned in the reviews topic? | 07:27 |
| derekh_ | people can run the ubuntu overcloud job by doing check experimental | 07:27 |
| derekh_ | but don't do that for all patches please :-) | 07:27 |
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| lifeless | derekh_: I got the vlan stuff you started working, haven't pushed it to a patchor anything | 07:28 |
| tchaypo | #info derekh_ says R1 is coming back, up to ~41 working nodes. R2 still running at reduced load. People can "check experimental" to run the ubuntu overcloud job, but please don't do it for all patches | 07:28 |
| lifeless | derekh_: we need the ssl certs from ng I think - but lets take this to the <- channel | 07:28 |
| lifeless | folk can help us with this by: | 07:28 |
| lifeless | - productionising the patches we come up with - spreading load around | 07:29 |
| derekh_ | tchaypo: R2 is running a reduced load, not at reduced load (small difference) | 07:29 |
| lifeless | - following along on the etherpad | 07:29 |
| tchaypo | #undo | 07:29 |
| lifeless | - asking derekh_ and me (24hr coverage!) what needs doing next | 07:29 |
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| derekh_ | lifeless: cool, will keep on it today | 07:29 |
| lifeless | - joining the tripleo-cd-admins team and mucking directly in yourselves | 07:29 |
| tchaypo | #info derekh_ says R1 is coming back, up to ~41 working nodes. R2 still running a reduced load. People can "check experimental" to run the ubuntu overcloud job, but please don't do it for all patches | 07:29 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: might be worth capturing the how-to-help bits? dunno | 07:30 |
| tchaypo | yes, I'm trying to copy and paste and summarise | 07:30 |
| lifeless | ack | 07:31 |
| tchaypo | can you hash-link the etherpad? | 07:31 |
| lifeless | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-ci-hp1-rebuild | 07:31 |
| derekh_ | lifeless: FYI, I'm on PTO next week (and the following week) | 07:32 |
| tchaypo | #info lifeless says folk can help us with this by: productionising the patches we come up with, following along on the etherpad, asking derekh_ or lifeless what needs doing next, or joining the tripleo-cd-admins team and mucking in | 07:32 |
| lifeless | derekh_: ack | 07:32 |
| tchaypo | Please Turn Over? | 07:32 |
| tchaypo | Paid Time Off? | 07:32 |
| proffalken | tchaypo: the first one if he's on a sun lounger? | 07:32 |
| tchaypo | #undo | 07:32 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: its merican for annual leave | 07:32 |
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| derekh_ | tchaypo: yup, leave, holidays, I just wont be here :-) | 07:33 |
| tchaypo | #info lifeless says folk can help us with this by: productionising the patches we come up with, following along on the etherpad, asking lifeless what needs doing next, or joining the tripleo-cd-admins team and mucking in | 07:33 |
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| tchaypo | Okay - anythiing else, or are we ready to move to CI? | 07:33 |
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| tchaypo | #topic ci | 07:34 |
| derekh_ | tchaypo: pull the trigger | 07:34 |
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| derekh_ | One breakage since the last meeting, regression in nova | 07:35 |
| derekh_ | ci jobs were busted for a few hours but we put in a revert in tripleo ci to get it back running | 07:35 |
| derekh_ | which doesn't fix devtest :-( | 07:35 |
| derekh_ | so I'm wondering if maybe we should do the temp revert in incubator instead of tripleo-ci ? thoughts? | 07:35 |
| lifeless | derekh_: well nova did appprove the revert quickly | 07:36 |
| lifeless | derekh_: it wedged because the gate chose that moment to fail spectacularly | 07:36 |
| greghaynes | and there was also debate as to whether to merge the revert versus the forward-fix | 07:36 |
| derekh_ | lifeless: yup, it was approved probably within about 4 or 5 hours, but not merged for 4 working days | 07:36 |
| lifeless | derekh_: Idunno - review 96659 might point in this direction too | 07:36 |
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| lifeless | derekh_: perhaps have a read through that and tie this in as a use case | 07:37 |
| lifeless | ? | 07:37 |
| tchaypo | If it's possible for us to work around it and preserve old behaviour by using DIB_REPO* to set particular repos at a particular state | 07:37 |
| derekh_ | lifeless: ok, will do | 07:37 |
| tchaypo | I think I'd rather document that in channel, as long as we think it's only going to be needed for a day or so | 07:38 |
| tchaypo | but 4 days is pretty ouchy | 07:39 |
| derekh_ | I took a brief look through it yesterday, will comment later, but ya looks like it could work | 07:39 |
| tchaypo | it sounds like we're done here. Anything worth noting for the minutes? | 07:39 |
| derekh_ | From next week for 2 weeks, If somebody could volunteer to keep and eye on http://goodsquishy.com/downloads/tripleo-jobs.html and do something if there is a problem if would be great as I wont be here. | 07:39 |
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| derekh_ | I've also been trying to get elastic-recheck working for us but until this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98154/ (or an alternative) is merged it wont do anything for us | 07:40 |
| tchaypo | #info One breakage since the last meeting, caused by a regression in nova; we put a revert in tripleo-ci to get it back running, but that didn't fix devtest. Fix was approvied in ~4 hours but didn't merge for 4 days due to gate issues | 07:40 |
| tchaypo | #info derekh_ will be away for two weeks so won't keeping an eye on http://goodsquishy.com/downloads/tripleo-jobs.html - would be good if other people could keep an eye on it and do something if there is a problem | 07:41 |
| derekh_ | so we have a few intermitant errors that cause failures (still to many) , their being marked with the ci tag https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bugs?field.tag=ci | 07:41 |
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| derekh_ | please use these if you need to recheck | 07:41 |
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| tchaypo | #info derekh_ has also been trying to get elastic-recheck working for us but until this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98154/ (or an alternative) is merged it wont do anything for us. we have a few intermitant errors that cause failures (still to many) , their being marked with the ci tag https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bugs?field.tag=ci - please use these if you need to recheck | 07:42 |
| tchaypo | Anything else? | 07:42 |
| derekh_ | tchaypo: thats all I got :-) | 07:42 |
| tchaypo | #topic tuskar | 07:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "tuskar (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:42 | |
| tchaypo | I can never tell if I'm rushing or dallying | 07:43 |
| tchaypo | derekh_: btw, lifeless had something he wanted me to tell you | 07:43 |
| jcoufal | alright, I have just one request here | 07:43 |
| jcoufal | we need as much eyes on the specs review as possible: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94720/ | 07:43 |
| lifeless | sdague: ^ btw - can we get some of your bw to tease this apart? I hate the feeling that we're failing to reuse stuff due to miscommunication | 07:43 |
| tchaypo | derekh_: I'll ping you after meeting if he isn't around to tell you himself | 07:43 |
| lifeless | sdague: (the e-r review) | 07:44 |
| marios | jcoufal: also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97553 | 07:44 |
| lsmola__ | marios: +1 | 07:44 |
| marios | (they are essentially 2 parts of the tuskar revamp, api, storage) | 07:44 |
| jcoufal | marios: yes and that one as well | 07:44 |
| derekh_ | tchaypo: ok | 07:44 |
| jcoufal | would be great if we can solve it ASAP and move to the implementation | 07:44 |
| tchaypo | #info jcoufal requests many eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94720/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97553 - 2 specs that are part of the tuskar revamp | 07:44 |
| marios | this week is juno-1 | 07:44 |
| marios | ideally we should have those more or less landed by end of week | 07:44 |
| lifeless | icehouse 0 | 07:45 |
| lifeless | (sorry, badum-tish) | 07:45 |
| tchaypo | #info We'd really like to get these more or less landed by the end of this week | 07:45 |
| marios | i was scratching my head there wondering if it was groundhog day lifeless | 07:45 |
| lifeless | just a terrible joke | 07:45 |
| tchaypo | thanks jcoufal, marios - it seems like having tuskar on the agenda is helping get info out | 07:46 |
| lsmola__ | also it depends a lot on Heat template rewrites https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97939/ | 07:46 |
| d0ugal | lsmola__: +! | 07:46 |
| jcoufal | tchaypo: yeah, I hope after the specs period we will have more info coming here in this section | 07:46 |
| tchaypo | #info lsmola__ notes that those specs depend a lot on Heat template rewrites https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97939/ | 07:46 |
| tchaypo | Okay, moving on | 07:47 |
| tchaypo | #topic one-off agenda items | 07:48 |
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| tchaypo | None were raised earlier, but I didn't actually ask | 07:48 |
| tchaypo | but in any case, the next item is | 07:48 |
| tchaypo | #topic open discussion | 07:48 |
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| jcoufal | mid-cycle meetup | 07:48 |
| tchaypo | so they can get raised here anyway | 07:48 |
| tchaypo | Oh yes | 07:48 |
| jcoufal | so just quick summary | 07:48 |
| jcoufal | I've sent an e-mail to the mailing list but | 07:49 |
| jcoufal | based on the etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup | 07:49 |
| jcoufal | the options 1 & 3 & 4 are out of play - low number of attendees or collision with other events | 07:49 |
| jcoufal | so there is one left which is option number 2 | 07:49 |
| tchaypo | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/036974.html | 07:49 |
| jcoufal | July 21-25 | 07:49 |
| jcoufal | Clint objected that he can't make it and suggested to move the meetup to the end of the feature freeze | 07:50 |
| shadower | jcoufal: me too | 07:50 |
| tchaypo | #info Thanks to jcoufal we now have a mid-cycle meetup and dates - July 21-25 at RedHat's office in Raleigh, North Carolina. See you there! | 07:50 |
| tchaypo | jcoufal: Do people need to contact you to RSVP? Update the etherpad? | 07:50 |
| jcoufal | I discussed this possibility with other folks but it doesn't look as a very good idea | 07:50 |
| jcoufal | reasons are in the e-mail | 07:51 |
| jcoufal | the main reason is that we won't be able to propose neither get in features which we need in time | 07:51 |
| StevenK | jcoufal: One thing that would help is sending an e-mail to the attendees giving them the address of the office and near-by hotels. | 07:51 |
| jcoufal | so if we need to check and plan and do something it really needs to be in the middle of the cycle | 07:51 |
| derekh_ | So if option 2 is the selection, how about we move the voting stuff to the bottom of the etherpad and start option 2 again ? so we can get actull numbers attending as they get approval ? | 07:51 |
| lifeless | StevenK: uhm google is better at hotels than mere humans ;) | 07:51 |
| lifeless | StevenK: address is what we ned :) | 07:51 |
| lifeless | derekh_: +1 | 07:52 |
| jcoufal | so what I wanted to do here | 07:52 |
| jcoufal | we set a date | 07:52 |
| jcoufal | I think July 21-25 is the right one | 07:52 |
| jcoufal | and we move forward to get the list of actual attendees, the exact place and suggested hotels in time | 07:52 |
| tchaypo | Yeah, I think any date is going to have some people who can't make it; this date at least means our PTL can make it | 07:52 |
| lifeless | jcoufal: I agree with you; I endorse 21-25 FWIW | 07:52 |
| tchaypo | and aside from that it seems on par with the next best option | 07:53 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: more than me; 14 vs 27 with the other options | 07:53 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: its massive ahead of the next best option | 07:53 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: since the other high attendance option is a no-go conflict w/nova | 07:53 |
| tchaypo | My memory is that two options had 27, but only one of those had a PTL | 07:53 |
| jcoufal | great, I take it as a word and we are arranging for July 21-25 | 07:53 |
| tchaypo | urgh. Yeah, that's nasty. | 07:53 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: your memory is correct, but the nova conflict is worse than no PTL - PTLs are nice to have :) | 07:54 |
| lifeless | jcoufal: do you need anything from me? | 07:54 |
| jcoufal | #agreed mid-cycle meetup date is July 21-25 | 07:54 |
| jcoufal | lifeless: nope, I will send a follow up to the mailing list and start with next arrangements | 07:54 |
| tchaypo | thanks jcoufal | 07:54 |
| jcoufal | lifeless: will keep you up to date | 07:55 |
| jcoufal | thanks everyone to participation in this | 07:55 |
| tchaypo | #info Look to the mailing list for next arrangements from jcoufal | 07:55 |
| jcoufal | and I am very sorry if anybody can't make it that time | 07:55 |
| jcoufal | but it's hard to find a time when everybody is available :( | 07:55 |
| d0ugal | jcoufal: np, I can't make it but the reasoning is sound | 07:55 |
| tchaypo | We have 4 more minutes | 07:56 |
| tchaypo | ish | 07:56 |
| StevenK | I don't know if I can troll by just saying the command to end the meeting | 07:56 |
| tchaypo | once again, stevenk slides in right at the end | 07:56 |
| StevenK | I've spoken before | 07:57 |
| derekh_ | so anybody see the game? | 07:57 |
| StevenK | Not sure if the bot will ignore me, or end the meeting :-P | 07:57 |
| tchaypo | StevenK: go ahead, we seem to be done | 07:57 |
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| StevenK | #endmeeting | 07:57 |
| StevenK | Nope, I is ignored | 07:57 |
| tchaypo | #endmeeting | 07:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 11 07:57:51 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 07:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-06-11-07.01.html | 07:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-06-11-07.01.txt | 07:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-06-11-07.01.log.html | 07:57 |
| lsmola__ | thanks guys | 07:58 |
| jcoufal | thanks to all | 07:58 |
| derekh_ | ty | 07:58 |
| tchaypo | Thanks everyone, see you 12 hours sooner next week | 07:58 |
| StevenK | Thanks guys | 07:58 |
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| pblaho | bye | 07:58 |
| marios | tchaypo: thanks good meeting | 07:58 |
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| nijaba | o/ | 14:02 |
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| nijaba | NFV team meeting here now, right? | 14:02 |
| cloudon | Hope so... | 14:03 |
| cgoncalves | yup | 14:03 |
| Mike | correct | 14:03 |
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| heyongli | Yeah | 14:03 |
| cgoncalves | russellb: ping | 14:03 |
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| russellb | #startmeeting nfv | 14:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 11 14:03:51 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is russellb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nfv' | 14:03 |
| russellb | hello! | 14:03 |
| mestery | o/ | 14:03 |
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| yamahata | hi | 14:04 |
| russellb | who's around to chat NFV today? | 14:04 |
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| cdub | o/ | 14:04 |
| nijaba | \o | 14:04 |
| cgoncalves | hi | 14:04 |
| cloudon | hello | 14:04 |
| aveiga | o/ | 14:04 |
| pcarver | hi | 14:04 |
| imendl | hi | 14:04 |
| heyongli | Hi | 14:04 |
| sean-k-mooney | o/ | 14:04 |
| adrian-hoban | Howdy | 14:04 |
| pczesnowicz | hi | 14:04 |
| ramki | hi | 14:04 |
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| jmsoares | hello | 14:04 |
| russellb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NFV | 14:04 |
| russellb | agenda is on an etherpad, feel free to add stuff to it | 14:04 |
| russellb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda | 14:04 |
| russellb | #topic actions from last week | 14:04 |
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| russellb | we had a few small actions from last week | 14:05 |
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| russellb | I got the NFV topic added to the openstack-dev mailing list | 14:05 |
| russellb | which means you should be able to subscribe to only that topic on the list instead of the full list if you want. | 14:05 |
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| russellb | topics aren't set up for the main openstack@ list, though | 14:05 |
| russellb | just -dev | 14:05 |
| russellb | the other thing was #openstack-nfv setup | 14:05 |
| russellb | the channel exists, people have been joining | 14:05 |
| adrian-hoban | Thanks russellb | 14:05 |
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| russellb | it's not officially managed by openstack-infra yet | 14:06 |
| yarbel | hi | 14:06 |
| russellb | that's pending cdub adding openstackinfra as a channel owner | 14:06 |
| Dmitry_HUawei | What about request for incubation? | 14:06 |
| russellb | Dmitry_HUawei: no incubation request needed, that's for specific projects | 14:06 |
| russellb | where as this group is more of a horizontal effort spanning multiple existing projects | 14:06 |
| adrian-hoban | russellb: Are we going to move future NFV meetings to that channel? | 14:06 |
| russellb | adrian-hoban: no, that's just for chatter throughout the week if people would like to | 14:07 |
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| russellb | this channel is where we have the meetbot for logging the meeting | 14:07 |
| mikebugenhagen | Russellb - has anyone posted the open link that we can all get the NFV use cases from.. it's http://www.etsi.org/technologies-clusters/technologies/nfv | 14:07 |
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| ramk_ | hi | 14:07 |
| russellb | mikebugenhagen: i think that has been posted before | 14:07 |
| russellb | use cases are the next topic | 14:07 |
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| russellb | #action cdub to add openstackinfra as an owner of #openstack-nfv | 14:08 |
| russellb | the last was a gerrit dashboard for nfv work | 14:08 |
| russellb | but bauzas couldn't make it today | 14:08 |
| russellb | #action bauzas to make gerrit dashboard | 14:08 |
| Dmitry_HUawei | russellb: could you update please on ServiceVM cooperation? | 14:08 |
| russellb | so we'll keep it on the list for next week | 14:08 |
| mikebugenhagen | NFV also was developing a Standards gap list in the NFV Tech steering commitee - so they may have a openstack NFV gap list as well | 14:08 |
| adrian-hoban | Direct link is here: http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_gs/NFV/001_099/001/01.01.01_60/gs_NFV001v010101p.pdf | 14:08 |
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| russellb | #topic use cases | 14:08 |
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| russellb | cdub: want to cover this one? | 14:09 |
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| russellb | there has been some ML discussion | 14:09 |
| russellb | and some initial content has been added to the wiki page | 14:09 |
| russellb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NFV#Use_Cases | 14:09 |
| cdub | ah beat me too it | 14:09 |
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| cdub | sgordon put this table together (above link) | 14:10 |
| russellb | cdub: have any thoughts on next steps with this? | 14:10 |
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| s3wong | russellb: sgordon mentioned we should focus first on use case #5 on the doc, which in section 9.5 has a good list of "problems and issues" to start with | 14:10 |
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| sgordon | s3wong, there was a suggestion from itai and alan that 2 and 7 might make more sense too | 14:10 |
| sgordon | im open to ideas | 14:10 |
| sgordon | slash opinions :) | 14:11 |
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| mikebugenhagen | Before going over the use cases it may be a good idea to go over the "vitualization architecture framework" document | 14:11 |
| s3wong | sgordon: sure | 14:11 |
| russellb | sgordon: hey! | 14:11 |
| mikebugenhagen | It lays out all the different AZ's that NFV brings into a single domain for orchestration | 14:11 |
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| ramk__ | We are have OpenStack gap analysis documents in ETSI NFV under member only access. I can work on getting public version of the documents (at least a draft) to fuel the kick start. | 14:13 |
| russellb | another thing in this area that i think would be helpful, is a couple paragraphs on this wiki page describing what NFV is | 14:13 |
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| cdub | mikebugenhagen: what do you mean "go over" collectively scan the doc? | 14:13 |
| Dmitry_HUawei | mikebugenhagen: could you share please the link to the document (vitualization architecture framework")? | 14:13 |
| russellb | i look at a lot of this as a page we can send devs / reviewers to | 14:13 |
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| nijaba | russellb: I can take that task | 14:13 |
| s3wong | ramk__: that would also be good | 14:13 |
| ggarcia | NFV architectural framework: http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_gs/NFV/001_099/002/01.01.01_60/gs_NFV002v010101p.pdf | 14:13 |
| mikebugenhagen | The document is #2 on that link | 14:13 |
| russellb | nijaba: ok, that'd be great | 14:13 |
| nijaba | #action nijaba to write up a description of what nfv is on the wiki page | 14:14 |
| russellb | #action nijaba to add a paragraph or two to the wiki giving an NFV overview, targeted at OpenStack developers / reviewers | 14:14 |
| russellb | heh | 14:14 |
| mikebugenhagen | I would think that Open Stack NFV might want to create a gap list to track all the things the NFV is proposing that doesn't align with the current framework | 14:14 |
| nijaba | sorry | 14:14 |
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| russellb | no worries | 14:14 |
| adrian-hoban | This is good reading to help understand where OpenStack fits in ETSI-NFV terminology | 14:14 |
| russellb | nijaba: now you just have to do it twice as well | 14:14 |
| nijaba | lol | 14:14 |
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| mikebugenhagen | aka - a working list to record NFV proposed changes | 14:14 |
| s3wong | mikebugenhagen: I think that is what ramk__ referred to. That the ETSI NFV group is already doing gap analysis | 14:15 |
| sgordon | right, but we need visibility of that to succeed | 14:15 |
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| sgordon | particularly to make progress in juno for example, which is rapidly progressing | 14:15 |
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| s3wong | if ramk__ can give us a public version, that is a good reference | 14:15 |
| mikebugenhagen | NFV has a gap list of what they think is a gap in Open stack... but I think Open stack should have a list of validated deltas... in Open stack language | 14:15 |
| sgordon | (though i think we already have a good idea of the low hanging "nits") | 14:15 |
| russellb | mikebugenhagen: yeah that's what this wiki page is shaping up to be, or at least that's the idea | 14:16 |
| cdub | mikebugenhagen: that's very roughly what we are trying to build on the wiki page | 14:16 |
| mikebugenhagen | cool | 14:16 |
| s3wong | sgordon: yes, J-1 is... this week :-) | 14:16 |
| adrian-hoban | The wiki is a good start, but there are deltas between the two lists | 14:16 |
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| sgordon | alan made some good points on list wrt sticking to the lowest common configurations too | 14:16 |
| russellb | adrian-hoban: would be great to discuss those | 14:16 |
| sgordon | rather than getting into some of the more exotic options | 14:16 |
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| mikebugenhagen | I think schema's (architecture) will provide the best view of big framework mis-alignments, then the use cases give implementation specific gaps | 14:17 |
| adrian-hoban | russellb: I think that doc is available for ETSI-NFV members only, so will have to check how much we can share here right now... | 14:17 |
| russellb | heh | 14:17 |
| mikebugenhagen | both the use cases and architecture doc's are here - http://www.etsi.org/technologies-clusters/technologies/nfv | 14:17 |
| mikebugenhagen | the gap list is a TSC item open to NFV members we'd have to liaison? | 14:18 |
| adrian-hoban | The other ETSI-NFV links that have been shared are already public. | 14:18 |
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| adrian-hoban | mikebugenhagen: Yes, I think so. | 14:18 |
| s3wong | mikebugenhagen: is there anyone attending this subteam meeting that is also working on the ETSI NFV group gap analysis? | 14:18 |
| martin_t | it's good to discuss top down input from the ETSI framework, but I think we surely also need bottom up input from VNF implementers | 14:19 |
| imendl | my rteam is | 14:19 |
| imendl | team | 14:19 |
| Dmitry_HUawei | i'm wondering about potential cooperation with ServiceVM group | 14:19 |
| cdub | martin_t: do you have any specific examples? | 14:19 |
| russellb | sgordon: think as a next step this week, we should start mapping blueprints to the use cases on the wiki page? have them linked? | 14:19 |
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| ggarcia | I am on that gap analysis. In fact all WG are expected to contribute to the gap analysis | 14:19 |
| ramk__ | yes, I am looking at the ETSI NFV group gap analysis | 14:19 |
| mikebugenhagen | I think Michael Brenner is the "NFV open stack" area manager so he's the guy who should be coordinating getting the gap list to Openstack.. | 14:20 |
| martin_t | example: session border control needs to relay 5M packets per second with low latency spread across several cores | 14:20 |
| s3wong | so we have imendl ggarcia and ramk__ at least - great! | 14:20 |
| cdub | Dmitry_HUawei: it's come up as well | 14:20 |
| russellb | Dmitry_HUawei: we discussed it some last week | 14:20 |
| adrian-hoban | russellb: I have sent a draft proposal on that mapping. alank has made the good point that we need to add more specific application considerations | 14:20 |
| sgordon | russellb, yeah i agree | 14:20 |
| Dmitry_HUawei | cdub: great, thanks | 14:20 |
| ggarcia | All WGs are expected to contribute to the gap anaysis. The first contributions will come probably from PER EG (Performance and Portability Expert Group) once the draft is approved | 14:20 |
| sgordon | russellb, in the quick glance table the requirements column is really intended for that | 14:20 |
| cdub | martin_t: ok, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NFV#Use_Cases <-- has data plane in there | 14:20 |
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| russellb | sgordon: adrian-hoban OK great, that sounds like a good action / next step | 14:21 |
| sgordon | but we could do it in the context of the more specific user stories though | 14:21 |
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| cdub | martin_t: best is to reply to the list thread discussing use cases (and vnf's are part of that usecase) | 14:21 |
| russellb | #action sgordon to coordinate with adrian-hoban and others to continue working on use cases on wiki, mapping them to blueprints | 14:21 |
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| sgordon | adrian-hoban, yes - trying to refer to those to create some linkage between the two worlds | 14:22 |
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| sgordon | adrian-hoban, would be good to make sure we're aligned with what's happening within ETSI NFV that is not yet public (even as a draft) as well tho | 14:22 |
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| russellb | any more to discuss on this? or should we hit some specific blueprints? | 14:23 |
| adrian-hoban | martin_t: Agree that more details for the VNF implementations will really help. If we can align with the use cases even better. Use cases 2, 5 and 7 have been proposed as lead candidates | 14:23 |
| ramk__ | yes sgordon, that is exactly what I am trying to do and specifically for the openstack gap analysis | 14:23 |
| martin_t | adrian-hoban: we have plenty of input on use case #5 re vIMS | 14:24 |
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| imendl | don't we need to map ETSI use cases, to gaps to BP. We have the beginning but shall we aim for it? | 14:24 |
| mikebugenhagen | ramk - I just emailed the TSC chairs at the NFV TSC and asked them to bless you uploading the gaps for openstack.... I cc'd ya | 14:25 |
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| ramk__ | mike - thanks a lot | 14:25 |
| sgordon | thanks mikebugenhagen, ramk__ | 14:25 |
| sgordon | will make it much easier to demonstrate to the wider community | 14:26 |
| adrian-hoban | mikebugenhagen: Good stuff | 14:26 |
| ggarcia | the gap analysis won't be available until the end of the year | 14:26 |
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| sgordon | even draft material would be extremely helpful though | 14:26 |
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| s3wong | ggarcia: would be good to gain some access to drafts | 14:26 |
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| russellb | yes, the earlier the better, otherwise we're more likely to diverge | 14:27 |
| ggarcia | s3wong: OK | 14:27 |
| russellb | now that momentum is building in openstack | 14:27 |
| adrian-hoban | ggarcia: I've been following the gaps taked about in the MANO working group... Perhaps we can get agreement to share the draft list? | 14:27 |
| mikebugenhagen | NFV has placed some open drafts in that link I provided | 14:27 |
| mikebugenhagen | Most of the "open drafts" should be available by 1 August. | 14:27 |
| ggarcia | s3wong: there 4 official documents to be downloaded here (http://www.etsi.org/technologies-clusters/technologies/nfv) with newer versions to come | 14:27 |
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| mikebugenhagen | http://www.etsi.org/technologies-clusters/technologies/nfv - Look at the "related documents section on this same link" - bottom right | 14:28 |
| s3wong | ggarcia: thanks | 14:28 |
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| russellb | this? http://docbox.etsi.org/ISG/NFV/Open/Latest_Drafts/ | 14:28 |
| ggarcia | s3wong: besides, there is a web page where stable drafts are published: http://docbox.etsi.org/ISG/NFV/Open/Latest_Drafts/ | 14:28 |
| adrian-hoban | Shall I update the wiki with the draft mappings of use cases to blueprints that I sent on the ML? | 14:28 |
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| mikebugenhagen | russelb - correct those are the latest open drafts | 14:29 |
| s3wong | adrian-hoban: I think so, otherwise sending reply to email thread will easily get lost | 14:29 |
| russellb | #link http://docbox.etsi.org/ISG/NFV/Open/Latest_Drafts/ | 14:29 |
| russellb | adrian-hoban: yes i think that sounds great | 14:29 |
| adrian-hoban | ok | 14:29 |
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| mikebugenhagen | The MANO (management and orchestration) draft isn't there yet - expect 2 more weeks before you can see that one | 14:29 |
| sgordon | +1 | 14:29 |
| ggarcia | adrian-hoban: #agreed | 14:29 |
| adrian-hoban | Should we have a section in the wiki to capture some of the more detailed requirements for a couple of applications we will assess more closely? | 14:30 |
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| russellb | adrian-hoban: that sounds useful to me | 14:31 |
| imendl | adrian, are you mapping the etsi use cases or the "data plane" as an example in the wiki? | 14:31 |
| ramk__ | it would be also be worth adding a link to the ETSI NFV PoCs in the wiki - many of the PoCs use OpenStack - http://www.etsi.org/technologies-clusters/technologies/nfv/nfv-poc | 14:31 |
| cloudon | adrian-hoban: sounds good, and happy to provide examples | 14:31 |
| s3wong | adrian-hoban: have we finalized on which applications we will look more closely for Juno? | 14:31 |
| adrian-hoban | imendl: The use case mapping... but I still think the application details will be more insightful. | 14:32 |
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| cloudon | imendl, adrian-hoban: I can provide details of specific appl example illustrarting data plane use case if that helps | 14:32 |
| imendl | adrian, agreed | 14:32 |
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| fjramons | Well, that is not that clear in my opinion | 14:33 |
| imendl | happy to work on it together | 14:33 |
| imendl | cloudon, pleased o | 14:33 |
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| s3wong | cloudon: that sounds great | 14:34 |
| adrian-hoban | s3wong: I don't think so... CPE for Enterprise, CPE for residential and EPC/IMS are the proposed candidate use cases that have been mentioned in the ML | 14:34 |
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| fjramons | cloudon: it sounds good | 14:34 |
| adrian-hoban | cloudon: That would be great | 14:35 |
| s3wong | adrian-hoban: that's plenty for Juno already :-) | 14:35 |
| fjramons | s3wong, adrian-hoban: Actually, all of those use cases have the same requirements in common | 14:35 |
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| fjramons | All of them look like routers from the management and performance perspective | 14:36 |
| imendl | fjramons, but not all NFV apps are routers... | 14:36 |
| fjramons | imendl: Yes, but all that adrian-hoban mentioned do | 14:37 |
| fjramons | But the IMS | 14:37 |
| s3wong | fjramons: IMS seems to have many components that may not be all routers-like? | 14:37 |
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| imendl | well. not all epc elements are neither | 14:37 |
| fjramons | Agreed | 14:37 |
| jmsoares | fjramons: from performance perspective the requirements are not the same I guess | 14:37 |
| fjramons | But not all of them have differential requirements either, that is the point | 14:37 |
| jmsoares | at least if we compare EPC/IMS with CPE functions | 14:38 |
| cloudon | IMS has plenty of control plane functions with low perf (vs data plane) but other reqs such as support for their HA models | 14:38 |
| martin_t | one key IMS element is SBC which relays media packets - different from router use case as all packets are small (~100 bytes) | 14:38 |
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| fjramons | jmsoares: The point that I am trying to make is whether anything especial needs to be added or not to OpenStack for a given use case | 14:38 |
| fjramons | If OpenStack as it is is appropriate for a given use case, then we can move on | 14:39 |
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| adrian-hoban | I see a lot of common base level enabling features that we need to work on for all of these use cases. | 14:39 |
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| fjramons | What I am suggesting is that we focus in the "gaps", if any | 14:39 |
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| ggarcia | imendl, fjramons, jmsoares: CPE, EPC, IMS and routers are different in terms of functionality, but when talking about requirements to OpenStack (and OpenStack user stories) all we need to differentiate is the type of workload that they are handling | 14:39 |
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| fjramons | Not every use case has gaps by default | 14:39 |
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| jmsoares | fjramons: from a functional perspective only then. ok | 14:39 |
| s3wong | fjramons: that's fair. I think as adrian-hoban said, we can first focus on these couple applications, and with cloudon giving detail example and use, we can map the requirements to existing BPs | 14:39 |
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| imendl | Yes we should focus on gaps and on the workloads. agreed. then maps those to candidate bp. but the context for the audience seems to be imprtant | 14:40 |
| jmsoares | ggarcia: agree | 14:40 |
| fjramons | imedl: agreed | 14:40 |
| cloudon | agree - can give examples of both control plane (IMS) and data plane (border controller) which will both have mix of generic & specific gaps | 14:40 |
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| imendl | I think we can | 14:40 |
| s3wong | imendl: sure | 14:40 |
| fjramons | Sure | 14:41 |
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| s3wong | cloudon: +1, please do | 14:41 |
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| * danpb is drowning in acronyms ETSI ... TSC ... MANO ... CPE ... EPC ... IMS | 14:41 | |
| adrian-hoban | Let's add them to the new section in the wiki | 14:41 |
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| fjramons | Agreed | 14:41 |
| cloudon | is ML best place ordirect to wiki? | 14:41 |
| s3wong | adrian-hoban: +1 | 14:41 |
| ggarcia | adrian-hoban: +1 | 14:41 |
| cdub | danpb: we need an acronym decoder | 14:41 |
| russellb | ML is best to discuss / agree on things | 14:41 |
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| russellb | document results on wiki | 14:41 |
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| cloudon | ok | 14:42 |
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| russellb | but don't be afraid to update the wiki either | 14:42 |
| russellb | can always be changed :) | 14:42 |
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| s3wong | Seems like we already got a bunch of good action items for next week | 14:44 |
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| russellb | Yeah, seems like it :) | 14:44 |
| russellb | #topic open discussion | 14:44 |
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| russellb | lots of designs that need to be reviewed | 14:44 |
| danpb | Please would all those active in this area please add themselves to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NFV#Who_we_are | 14:45 |
| russellb | any feedback on them is useful | 14:45 |
| danpb | there's so many people it isnt always obvious who everyone is from IRC nicks | 14:45 |
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| s3wong | danpb: we did put down our IRC nicks on the wiki table... though there are already a lot of people | 14:46 |
| runarut | FYI - i don’t have permission to edit the WIKI who we are page. i assume others are in the same boat. | 14:46 |
| russellb | runarut: you should be able to if you log in | 14:46 |
| nijaba | runarut: you need to login first | 14:46 |
| adrian-hoban | Should we use the time to discuss some of the blueprints? | 14:46 |
| runarut | i am logged in. | 14:47 |
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| russellb | adrian-hoban: sure, we can do that, have any particular ones you'd like to cover? | 14:47 |
| runarut | edit is limited to users within a group or so the error message says. | 14:47 |
| danpb | oh hmm, have you signed the OpenStack CLA ? | 14:47 |
| adrian-hoban | Start from the top of the wiki if the submitter is here to discuss? | 14:48 |
| russellb | sure | 14:48 |
| runarut | ah, the CLA - thanks - i’ll get right to it. | 14:48 |
| russellb | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/2-if-1-net | 14:48 |
| russellb | i don't see ijw | 14:48 |
| russellb | there's already some feedback on the spec | 14:48 |
| russellb | pretty basic feedback so far | 14:48 |
| russellb | that one is "Support two interfaces from one VM attached to the same network" | 14:49 |
| russellb | but no opposition so far that we need to work through | 14:49 |
| russellb | next is "VLAN trunking networks for NFV" | 14:49 |
| russellb | 3 blueprints on this line item | 14:49 |
| russellb | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/nfv-vlan-trunks | 14:49 |
| yamahata | servicevm team will drive it | 14:49 |
| russellb | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/l2-gateway | 14:49 |
| yamahata | At least I'll try to coordinate with Ian | 14:50 |
| russellb | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/vlan-aware-vms | 14:50 |
| russellb | yamahata: OK, cool | 14:50 |
| russellb | have any info on how they're coming along? | 14:50 |
| russellb | i haven't had a chance to look at these designs | 14:50 |
| s3wong | russellb: all three of these are somewhat similar by nature | 14:50 |
| s3wong | they all VLAN tagging on Neutron port, basically | 14:50 |
| s3wong | *all want | 14:51 |
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| russellb | last one in this top section is "Permit unaddressed interfaces for NFV use cases" | 14:51 |
| russellb | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/nfv-unaddressed-interfaces | 14:51 |
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| yamahata | Also servicevm team will work with Ian, the original auther. | 14:52 |
| russellb | OK, cool | 14:52 |
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| yamahata | I gave feedback on it, and will work with him | 14:52 |
| russellb | mestery: lots of neutron blueprints in here :) | 14:52 |
| russellb | you have these on your radar? | 14:53 |
| cgoncalves | how should all other blueprints in the second table be prioritized? | 14:53 |
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| mestery | russellb: We have most of them on our radar, we should syncup on this though. | 14:53 |
| mestery | russellb: Juno-2 is looking packed :) | 14:53 |
| * russellb nods | 14:53 | |
| russellb | always | 14:53 |
| russellb | all milestones get packed :) | 14:53 |
| russellb | comes down to who can deliver code | 14:53 |
| * mestery nods vigorously in agreement. | 14:53 | |
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| mestery | russellb: +1000 | 14:53 |
| russellb | i think we have enough momentum behind things in this area that hopefully we can deliver on them | 14:53 |
| russellb | often code is held back until designs get approved though | 14:54 |
| russellb | as it should, really | 14:54 |
| russellb | but i'm quite optimistic about these items | 14:54 |
| mestery | russellb: Happy to help sort through these, we should sync on this tomorrow or Friday. | 14:54 |
| russellb | mestery: OK, sure | 14:54 |
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| russellb | mestery: and if not, we can talk more in next weeks' meeting here | 14:55 |
| mestery | russellb: Perfect! | 14:55 |
| russellb | great, thanks | 14:55 |
| russellb | bunch of nova designs i need to review ... | 14:55 |
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| russellb | danpb: how blocked are you on getting spec reviews? | 14:55 |
| ramk__ | policy is one of the important pieces of the NFV puzzle; with that context it would be worth getting the Congress proposal in the NFV wiki | 14:56 |
| cdub | ramk__: you can add it, but it's much further out | 14:56 |
| russellb | ramk__: maybe a new section on related teams/projects | 14:56 |
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| russellb | alright, well I think that's pretty good for today | 14:57 |
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| russellb | thanks everyone for coming by! | 14:57 |
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| russellb | talk to you on the mailing list, and here next week | 14:57 |
| shane-wang | bye | 14:57 |
| russellb | #endmeeting | 14:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 11 14:57:59 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
| fjramons | Bye | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nfv/2014/nfv.2014-06-11-14.03.html | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nfv/2014/nfv.2014-06-11-14.03.txt | 14:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nfv/2014/nfv.2014-06-11-14.03.log.html | 14:58 |
| imendl | bye | 14:58 |
| nijaba | thanks for running the show russellb | 14:58 |
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| russellb | np, happy to | 14:58 |
| kashyap | russellb, Hi, just a quick comment - | 14:58 |
| ramk__ | thanks cdub and russelb, will add congress to the new section on related teams/projects | 14:58 |
| russellb | kashyap: sure what's up | 14:58 |
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| kashyap | I haven't read the scrollback, but shouldn't the wiki page add some kind of reasonable description of what NFV is in clear language? | 14:58 |
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| kashyap | It's not really terribly obvious for an administrator/operator to see whether she should evaluate NFV based on the use-cases present there. | 14:59 |
| nijaba | kashyap: I have this action for next week :) | 14:59 |
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| kashyap | nijaba, Cool. | 14:59 |
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| cdub | kashyap: on the todo list | 14:59 |
| russellb | :) | 14:59 |
| russellb | kashyap: great question/idea though | 15:00 |
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| cdub | kashyap: currently it's a collection of insider knowledge | 15:00 |
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| kashyap | cdub, Yeah, like a members-only club :-P | 15:00 |
| russellb | if we do our job well, we can point anyone in openstack to this page and they can fairly quickly get what they need to know | 15:00 |
| russellb | and then say "oh ok cool! approved!" | 15:00 |
| russellb | :) | 15:00 |
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| nijaba | tshirt idea: I speak NFV: do you? #openstack-nfv | 15:00 |
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| cdub | kashyap: yes, and best person to read wiki is someone w/out insider knowledge (because goal is to make it accessible to others) | 15:01 |
| russellb | nijaba: excellent | 15:01 |
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| kashyap | cdub, Yeah, at a fairly high-level, from my minimal understanding, I can see that it's all about replacing some of the hardware network appliances w/ high-performance software taking advantage of things like NUMA, SR-IOV, etc | 15:01 |
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| cdub | kashyap: *nod* | 15:01 |
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| danpb | russellb: well obviously I can start implmenetation work and have done so, but its risky if review feedback requires changes which will make me throw away what i've done | 15:02 |
| nijaba | kashyap: I think I may add your sentence in my description :) | 15:02 |
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| Swami | folks it is time for the next meeting | 15:02 |
| danpb | russellb: so i'd really like a push to get some of these blueprints reviewed & approved | 15:02 |
| cloudon | kashyap: ditching bespoke hardware & efficiently using COTS servers v important, but orchestration & speed of delivery of new services also vital | 15:02 |
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| chuckC | hi Swami | 15:02 |
| kashyap | nijaba, If you think it's understandable go ahead :) | 15:02 |
| nijaba | let's switch to #openstack-nfv | 15:02 |
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| russellb | danpb: ok, yeah, i figured ... will def try to jump in and help | 15:03 |
| Swami | chuckC: hi | 15:03 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: hi | 15:03 |
| Swami | carl: hi | 15:03 |
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| Swami | pcm_: hi | 15:03 |
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| pcm_ | hi | 15:04 |
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| kashyap | cloudon, Noted. (Just learnt the acronym COTS) | 15:04 |
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| Swami | #startmeeting distributed_virtual_router | 15:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 11 15:05:07 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Swami. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:05 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'distributed_virtual_router' | 15:05 |
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| Swami | hi everyone | 15:05 |
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| Swami | I hope that the net connection should be stable today. | 15:06 |
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| Swami | mrsmith: ping | 15:06 |
| Swami | murali: ping | 15:06 |
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| Swami | vivek: ping | 15:06 |
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| Swami | #topic DVR - Update | 15:07 |
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| Swami | The L3-plugin code is still under review. | 15:07 |
| Swami | Minor nits. | 15:07 |
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| Swami | Carl: I did see that there were two failures today when I pushed the code in jenkins that was related to "teardown" class. | 15:08 |
| Swami | I was not sure about the error by itself. | 15:08 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: I haven’t seen those yet. | 15:08 |
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| carl_baldwin | I can help you look at that if you want. | 15:08 |
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| Swami | Yes can you take a look at those errors. I my system tox was successfull. | 15:09 |
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| carl_baldwin | I will have a look. I might need a little time after the meeting before I can but I can do that. | 15:09 |
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| Swami | vivek: hi | 15:09 |
| viveknarasimhan | hi swami | 15:09 |
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| Swami | I did see that the DVR was pushed from Milestone 1 to Milestone 2 since all our code was not in for review. | 15:10 |
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| carl_baldwin | Swami: Yes, Juno-1 is today. | 15:11 |
| mrsmith | Swami: hi | 15:11 |
| mrsmith | sorry I am late | 15:11 |
| Swami | I still wanted to push the base L3 plugin extension and then keep adding code on top of it to support the North-South | 15:11 |
| viveknarasimhan | did any other feature make it to Juno-1 | 15:12 |
| Swami | carl: Yes, I saw the message from Kyle on this. | 15:12 |
| viveknarasimhan | other than DVR? | 15:12 |
| Swami | vivek: I have't spent any time looking at the other ones. | 15:12 |
| Swami | mrsmith: No problem. | 15:12 |
| carl_baldwin | There were a number of smaller features in Juno-1 and lots of bug fixes. | 15:12 |
| viveknarasimhan | ok | 15:13 |
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| carl_baldwin | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/juno-1 | 15:13 |
| Swami | #topic L2 Agent Update | 15:13 |
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| Swami | It seems that mostly bug fixes went in and 6 other blueprints. | 15:14 |
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| Swami | vivek: can you give an update on the L2 Agent and were are we with the reviews. | 15:14 |
| viveknarasimhan | thanks to carl's help | 15:15 |
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| viveknarasimhan | i remerged your latest patch set 24 and pushed patch set 5 | 15:15 |
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| viveknarasimhan | i am working on the review comments from carl, amotoki, mark and kevin | 15:15 |
| Swami | patch set 25 is now available. | 15:15 |
| viveknarasimhan | i am expecting to post the next patch set in next 2-3 days with all UTs passing | 15:15 |
| viveknarasimhan | i may not pick up patch set 25 as I already merged your changes | 15:16 |
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| viveknarasimhan | i will be posting off my changes off patch set 24 going forward | 15:16 |
| viveknarasimhan | when posting i use 'git review --no-rebase' as per carl's advise | 15:17 |
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| Swami | ok, there were minor changes between the patch set 24 and 25. Based on review comments I have renamed couple of function names. But it should not affect you. | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | I do highly recommend —no-rebase when working on patches with dependencies. | 15:18 |
| mrsmith | I didn't do that on my last patch | 15:18 |
| * carl_baldwin actually recommends —no-rebase for every push of a patch but that is another subject. | 15:18 | |
| Swami | carl: Thanks for the update will follow it. | 15:19 |
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| viveknarasimhan | carl helped me go though whirling dependency issues. Thanks a lot carl. | 15:19 |
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| carl_baldwin | viveknarasimhan: glad to help. | 15:20 |
| Swami | vivek: is there anything else that you want to share. Is there any blockers right now from the L2 side. | 15:20 |
| viveknarasimhan | no blockers. i am refactoring code to | 15:21 |
| viveknarasimhan | separate out DVR l2 chagnes into a new file as that was comment by amotoki | 15:21 |
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| viveknarasimhan | no blockers | 15:21 |
| Swami | vivek: thanks for the update | 15:22 |
| Swami | mrsmith: are you there | 15:22 |
| mrsmith | yep | 15:22 |
| Swami | #topic L3 Agent | 15:22 |
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| Swami | mrsmith: can you give an update on the L3 Agent | 15:23 |
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| mrsmith | sure | 15:24 |
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| mrsmith | I posted an updated patch for review last night | 15:24 |
| mrsmith | merged up to date with juno/top | 15:24 |
| mrsmith | it has FIP and SNAT | 15:24 |
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| mrsmith | all functionality - just a couple issues remain | 15:24 |
| mrsmith | like agent restart without namespace removal | 15:25 |
| Swami | mrsmith: great | 15:25 |
| mrsmith | I have a question about tempest - how can I run tests via tempest? | 15:25 |
| mrsmith | other than from a review/push? | 15:25 |
| mrsmith | looks like there were some tempest failures from my changes | 15:25 |
| Swami | carl: can you provide any input on this. | 15:26 |
| mrsmith | I have been working with carl on getting a devstack setup running with huno - still stuck there | 15:26 |
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| mrsmith | *juno | 15:26 |
| carl_baldwin | The way that I’ve run tempest is to enable it in devstack. Then, it is pretty easy to run. | 15:26 |
| mrsmith | k - is there a wiki or anything | 15:27 |
| mrsmith | on how do enable temptest and run it via devstack? | 15:27 |
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| * pcm_ perking up to hear about this :) | 15:27 | |
| carl_baldwin | I can find that. Hold on... | 15:27 |
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| mrsmith | other than temptest/devstack - I will go through the review comments | 15:29 |
| mrsmith | make updates, etc | 15:29 |
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| Swami | mrsmith: sounds good | 15:29 |
| carl_baldwin | The README.md file in the devstack repository talks about it. Just search for tempest in that file. | 15:30 |
| Swami | I did see a link shown below; | 15:30 |
| Swami | #link http://www.rushiagr.com/blog/2013/03/20/openstack-tempest-quick-start-with-devstack/ | 15:30 |
| mrsmith | k | 15:30 |
| mrsmith | first step will be getting devstack working with juno - which I am blocked on | 15:30 |
| mrsmith | but we'll see | 15:31 |
| mrsmith | I may just restart from scratch | 15:31 |
| Swami | mrsmith: Is this with plain vanilla Juno or with the DVR as well. | 15:31 |
| mrsmith | plain vanilla juno | 15:31 |
| mrsmith | your template never worked 100% for me | 15:32 |
| mrsmith | nova boots would hang | 15:32 |
| chuckC | https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack has the README.md | 15:32 |
| Swami | mrsmith: good to hear. | 15:32 |
| mrsmith | now moving to juno I can't get stack.sh to finish | 15:32 |
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| mrsmith | devstack has always been a pain to get going | 15:33 |
| chuckC | mrsmith: I've been working on this also, maybe we can share the pain? | 15:33 |
| mrsmith | :) | 15:33 |
| mrsmith | misery loves company | 15:33 |
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| Swami | mrsmith: was it a proxy issue, did you try anything without proxy configured. | 15:34 |
| mrsmith | I'll look at the links shared here and bang on it some more | 15:34 |
| mrsmith | thanks everyone | 15:34 |
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| Swami | mrsmith: I will the devstack on the virtualbox and let you know. | 15:34 |
| Swami | mrsmith: *try | 15:34 |
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| chuckC | Swami: it's a bit of a time-sync | 15:35 |
| viveknarasimhan | mike | 15:35 |
| viveknarasimhan | vishal from india team here got single node devstack working on Juno top | 15:35 |
| viveknarasimhan | i will link you with him | 15:35 |
| mrsmith | good | 15:35 |
| Swami | vivek: thanks for your help. | 15:36 |
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| Swami | mrsmith: Thanks for the update. | 15:37 |
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| Rajeev | Swami: on the l3 topic just wanted to add that Going forward, We are putting quite a bit of energy in getting all the DVR code in. | 15:38 |
| Swami | #topic Services | 15:38 |
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| Swami | #undo | 15:38 |
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| Rajeev | so you would see reviews being updated more frequently | 15:39 |
| Rajeev | we do intend to get into Juno-2 | 15:39 |
| Swami | rajeev: you mean that everyone will be actively pushing code and reviewing code to make it happen for Juno-2 | 15:39 |
| Rajeev | yes, | 15:40 |
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| Swami | rajeev: Thanks, that is great news. | 15:40 |
| viveknarasimhan | we should have pursued upstream from day one | 15:40 |
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| carl_baldwin | Rajeev: That sounds great. We reviewers will be trying very hard to get feedback to you quickly. | 15:40 |
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| Rajeev | one of the areas for community contribution at this point is system tests | 15:40 |
| Rajeev | CarL: thanks, that would be real helpful | 15:41 |
| carl_baldwin | Rajeev: I can also try to help coordinate some testing efforts. | 15:41 |
| Swami | #topic Services | 15:41 |
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| Swami | LBaaS: We did find a bug in the current code that does not address the LBaas port associated for FIP. | 15:42 |
| Swami | We need to address this. | 15:43 |
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| viveknarasimhan | we need to address queries on FwaaS inclusion for DVR as well | 15:45 |
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| Murali | swami who is working on DVR with Lbaas | 15:46 |
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| * pcm_ is it me or is there no messages showing on this meeting? | 15:52 | |
| chuckC | Swami is having network problems | 15:52 |
| Rajeev | while we wait for Swami, anyone know how much time should one reserve to setup a 4 node devstack?. | 15:52 |
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| chuckC | Rajeev: for me trying to hack through it myself, it's been 2 days so far, and my VMs don't get IP addresses yet. | 15:54 |
| carl_baldwin | Rajeev: It is hard to know. If all goes well, an hour. But, if problems are hit…. Who knows. | 15:54 |
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| chuckC | clearly I need to talk to carl! ;) | 15:55 |
| carl_baldwin | Rajeev: chuckC: mrsmith: Are you all doing it behind a proxy? | 15:55 |
| chuckC | carl_baldwin: no | 15:55 |
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| mrsmith | probably - working in a corp | 15:55 |
| viveknarasimhan | we are behind proxy. so we use tsocks | 15:55 |
| mrsmith | I think I've toyed with proxy settings who | 15:55 |
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| carl_baldwin | I found the easiest way to do it is on a VM in the cloud. Gets rid of proxy problems. I’ve been using Ubuntu 14.04 as my base OS. | 15:56 |
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| mrsmith | we can't run stack.sh with tsocks right? | 15:56 |
| mrsmith | hmm.. I'm not using 14.04 either | 15:56 |
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| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: What are you using? I used to use 12.04 without much problem but I upgraded so that I’d get a newer openvswitch by default. | 15:57 |
| mrsmith | 12.04 | 15:57 |
| carl_baldwin | It should still be supported on 12.04. However, openvswitch is older. | 15:57 |
| chuckC | I'd really like to see local.conf files for a working multi-node devstack…. | 15:58 |
| chuckC | using ovs and vlan | 15:59 |
| carl_baldwin | Our meeting slot is almost through. Can someone spoof Swami so that we can to #endmeeting? | 15:59 |
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| Rajeev | if someone has one local.conf can one post it at blueprint site ? | 15:59 |
| viveknarasimhan | hi carl | 15:59 |
| yamamoto | which version of ovs 14.04 has? | 15:59 |
| viveknarasimhan | before we move, i request one help: the reviwe for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93624/ | 16:00 |
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| carl_baldwin | chuckC: I’m using ovs with vxlan. I think it is easier to to a multi-node in the cloud with vxlan. | 16:00 |
| viveknarasimhan | is gettting check-dvsm-full PASS mandatory for upstream merge? i see its non-voting | 16:00 |
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| carl_baldwin | viveknarasimhan: non-voting are not mandatory. | 16:00 |
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| carl_baldwin | I’m going to try to become Swami here to end the meeting. | 16:01 |
| viveknarasimhan | ok thanks | 16:01 |
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| Swami | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 11 16:01:38 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-06-11-15.05.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-06-11-15.05.txt | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-06-11-15.05.log.html | 16:01 |
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| Swami_ | hello this is Swami-mock | 16:01 |
| trinaths | Hi | 16:01 |
| Swami_ | too late? | 16:02 |
| rkukura | hello ML2ers! | 16:02 |
| asomya | hi | 16:02 |
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| trinaths | hi rkukura | 16:02 |
| banix | ML2 people here? | 16:02 |
| rcurran | hi | 16:02 |
| banix | hi | 16:02 |
| shivharis | hi al | 16:02 |
| trinaths | hi all | 16:02 |
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| chuckC | hi | 16:02 |
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| yamamoto | hi | 16:02 |
| rkukura | seems we have quorum | 16:02 |
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| rkukura | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 11 16:03:07 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:03 |
| shivharis | sukhdev: hi | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis: Hi | 16:03 |
| rkukura | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_June_11.2C_2014 | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | shivharis: sorry was busy | 16:03 |
| rkukura | #topic Announcements | 16:04 |
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| rkukura | Juno-1 should be cut today! | 16:04 |
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| rkukura | mestery is trying to allow the APIC L3 patch, which has been approved, to merge 1st | 16:04 |
| rkukura | overall project plans are at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NeutronJunoProjectPlan | 16:05 |
| rkukura | We need to identify the top priorities for ML2 and get these incorporarated into the plan | 16:05 |
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| Sukhdev | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NeutronJunoProjectPlan | 16:06 |
| shivharis | rkukura: thx for the pointer | 16:06 |
| rkukura | finally, mestery wanted me to emphasize that 3rd party CI needs to be working properly for ML2 drivers to stay in tree | 16:06 |
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| sadasu | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95236/ review for ML2 UCS manager mech driver | 16:06 |
| rkukura | he will be sending an email soon with details and deadlines | 16:07 |
| sadasu | took care of all review comments last week | 16:07 |
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| rkukura | sadasu: Lets cover that in the code reviews topic | 16:07 |
| sadasu | would really appreciate if the reviewers went and took a 2nd look | 16:07 |
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| sadasu | it is the BP review | 16:07 |
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| rkukura | mestery has details on 3td party testing requirements in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NeutronThirdPartyTesting | 16:08 |
| banix | sadasu: we will get to it; hold on a few more minutes :) | 16:08 |
| sadasu | rkukura: ok | 16:08 |
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| rkukura | any discussion on these announcements, or any other announcements? | 16:08 |
| rcurran | rkukura, should we work w/ mestery to get BPs listed in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NeutronJunoProjectPlan | 16:08 |
| mestery | rcurran: No, those are community items of high importance. :) | 16:09 |
| mestery | rcurran: The BPs you file will be in the milestone pages on Launchpad | 16:09 |
| rkukura | rcurran: Yes - plan to discuss prioritization under that action items topic | 16:09 |
| rcurran | and i'm not :-) | 16:09 |
| rcurran | got it | 16:09 |
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| rkukura | anything else on announcements before we move on to action items? | 16:09 |
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| banix | good wiki on tests; specific requirement stated clearly | 16:10 |
| banix | I meant the CI requirement | 16:10 |
| yamamoto | what’s APIC L3? | 16:10 |
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| rcurran | cisco apic | 16:10 |
| asomya | yamamoto: This patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96187/ | 16:10 |
| yamamoto | thank you | 16:11 |
| rkukura | yamamoto: Its an L3 service plugin that goes along with Cisco’s APIC ML2 MD | 16:11 |
| rkukura | asomya, rcurran: Is that accurate? | 16:11 |
| rcurran | yes | 16:11 |
| rkukura | #topic Action Items | 16:11 |
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| rkukura | 1st AI: rkukura to put priorities in specs etherpad | 16:12 |
| rkukura | 2nd AI: rkukura to talk to mestery for blueprint priorities | 16:12 |
| shivharis | close this based on delegating to individuals? | 16:12 |
| shivharis | ^^^ 1st | 16:12 |
| shivharis | or leave it around? | 16:12 |
| rkukura | shivharis: let me update on the discussion with mestery 1st | 16:13 |
| shivharis | k | 16:13 |
| shivharis | rkukura: ok | 16:13 |
| rkukura | So mestery suggests vendor-specific drivers should be at low priority, consistent with vendor plugins and vendor service drivers | 16:13 |
| rkukura | The ML2 team can identify 2 or 3 BPs to treat as high priority | 16:14 |
| rkukura | These need to be of general community interest, and really important to complete for Juno | 16:14 |
| rkukura | And we can identify several more BPs to treat as medium priority, which also should be of general community interest | 16:15 |
| rkukura | mestery: Does that summarize our conversation reasonably well? | 16:15 |
| banix | sounds reasonable | 16:15 |
| yamamoto | vendor-specifc drivers include ovs ones or not? | 16:16 |
| rcurran | rkukura, should the authors of the vendor-specific BPs be concerned that there change may not get in | 16:16 |
| mestery | rcurran: Yes, good summary! | 16:16 |
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| rkukura | yamamoto: I think OVS and linuxbridge are not considered vendor specific, so could be medium or high | 16:17 |
| rcurran | mestery, good summary of what? :-) that my changes may not get in juno | 16:17 |
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| mestery | rcurran: ;) | 16:17 |
| mestery | rcurran: Sorry, meant rkukura :) | 16:17 |
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| yamamoto | rkukura: sounds reasonable. thanks for clarification | 16:18 |
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| rcurran | mestery, i'm actually glad it wasn't my "summary" | 16:18 |
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| rkukura | We clearly need to ensure vendor specific drivers are able to get merged | 16:18 |
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| banix | well, rcurran your summary may have been stated accurately as well | 16:18 |
| rkukura | I think the process of having good subteam internal reviews, then handing over to core review, will help | 16:19 |
| rkukura | Just because something is low priority doesn’t mean it should not get in | 16:19 |
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| trinaths | rkukura: +1 | 16:20 |
| shivharis | low priroity has an impact in when it gets reviewed | 16:20 |
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| rkukura | I expect cores outside our subteam are willing to +2 and +A vendor drivers if the subteam has done a thorough job of reviewing the code, and its clrearly ready to merge | 16:20 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: makes sense | 16:21 |
| trinaths | subteam reviews really help.. | 16:21 |
| rkukura | How about if we provide a list of reviews that we think are ready for core review at each weekly neutron meeting? | 16:21 |
| banix | rkukura: that should be helpful | 16:21 |
| shivharis | bugs and bps? | 16:21 |
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| sadasu | rkukura: +1 | 16:21 |
| rkukura | shivharis: yes | 16:21 |
| trinaths | rkukura: +1\ | 16:21 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: that is a great idea | 16:22 |
| nlahouti_ | rkukura:+1 | 16:22 |
| shivharis | can we add a flag in the bps that it is ready, i can sort for the next meeting, need similar things for bugs | 16:22 |
| rkukura | so I think our objective at these weekly ML2 meetings should be to decide which spec and code reviews to put forward at the next neutron meeting | 16:22 |
| shivharis | rkukura: +1 | 16:23 |
| banix | rkukura: +1 | 16:23 |
| trinaths | rkukura: +1. | 16:23 |
| rkukura | as well as to work through issues identified in the reviews that need discussion | 16:23 |
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| slogan_ | I'm interested in doing code reviews, particularly of drivers since I am in learning mode, but not sure what the subteam concept is or how it applies. Can someone briefly suggest how I can help? | 16:23 |
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| yamamoto | in that case how about moving meeting date so that ml2 meeting is before neutron meeting in a week? | 16:24 |
| Sukhdev | slogan_: just review the code that you are interested in post the comments | 16:24 |
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| rkukura | slogan_: The idea is to have the subteam (all of us at this meeting) find all the issues before asking cores to review the specs and code | 16:24 |
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| rkukura | so the core reviews can quickly and easily +2 and +A the patches | 16:25 |
| chuckC | slogan_: is the problem finding reviews for the subteam? | 16:25 |
| trinaths | subteam reviews make team, to learn more. | 16:26 |
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| slogan_ | perhaps, I've just been randomly looking for neutron reviews so far in the list on gerrit that don't have a green checkbox. | 16:26 |
| rkukura | We started using an etherpad to try to track progress on the BP spec reviews, with each reviewer entering info into the etherpad as they do reviews. This should allow reviewers to see which specs need review, which are close to handing over for core review, etc. | 16:26 |
| slogan_ | ah | 16:26 |
| slogan_ | where can i find that etherpad? | 16:27 |
| banix | rkukura: for my own sake i made a wiki and organized the specs to review; not sure if useful to others but i put a link on etherpad | 16:27 |
| shivharis | slogan_: we need to create one | 16:27 |
| rkukura | slogan_: Its in the meeting agenda under Spec Reviews | 16:27 |
| trinaths | slogan_: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Neutron_ML2_Juno_Spec_Tracking | 16:27 |
| slogan_ | looking :-) | 16:28 |
| rkukura | banix: Any chance we could merge the wiki and etherpad into one definitive source that the team can use? | 16:28 |
| shivharis | need one for bugs? or is it an overkill? | 16:29 |
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| yamamoto | banix: we should have a single place to look | 16:29 |
| banix | rkukura: Sure, which one would be the best? | 16:29 |
| banix | yamamoto: agree; if wiki not good, lets remove the link from etherpad | 16:29 |
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| rkukura | shivharis: Maybe for bugs with priorities over some threshold | 16:29 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: I like banix wiki - but, am concerned about keeping the etherpad and wiki in sync all the times | 16:29 |
| shivharis | rkukura: agree | 16:29 |
| sadasu | question about the etherpad | 16:30 |
| banix | Sukhdev: yeah we have to pick one and go with it | 16:30 |
| rkukura | sadasu: go ahead | 16:30 |
| yamamoto | i’m fine with either or wiki or etherpad as far as it’s a single place | 16:30 |
| nlahouti | banix: the wiki has good info. | 16:30 |
| sadasu | do the spec/code owners update the etherpad when they have posted a new version? | 16:30 |
| rkukura | so is etherpad or wiki the better tool for this? | 16:30 |
| Sukhdev | banix: If I have to pick, I will pick the wiki - it is much better to read - :-) | 16:30 |
| rkukura | We can move the info to one place | 16:31 |
| sadasu | or is that unnecessary because of the email going out | 16:31 |
| trinaths | banix: wiki page looks good. | 16:31 |
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| rkukura | banix: Where is the wiki? | 16:31 |
| yamamoto | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Tracking_ML2_Subgroup_Reviews | 16:31 |
| trinaths | rkukura: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Tracking_ML2_Subgroup_Reviews | 16:32 |
| banix | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Tracking_ML2_Subgroup_Reviews | 16:32 |
| trinaths | rkukura: we can send this page to core reviewers for easy access and reviews. | 16:32 |
| rkukura | nice | 16:32 |
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| rkukura | table is certainly nicer than outlines on etherpad | 16:33 |
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| banix | the wiki has the info from etherpad from a couple of nights ago; whichever format we decide to use, I make sure both docs are in sync and then remove the less desirable one. | 16:33 |
| shivharis | banix: like it | 16:33 |
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| rkukura | could we capture in each reviewer’s box a summary of their view of the status? | 16:33 |
| banix | rkukura: like +1 or -1? or more info? | 16:34 |
| rkukura | how about +1, +2, or tiny summary of issue resulting in -1 or -2 | 16:34 |
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| trinaths | capturing a -1 would be helpful. | 16:35 |
| trinaths | this helps for owners to be on improvements. | 16:35 |
| banix | rkukura: timfreund the vote is certainly doable, a summary may become too much but will try and see how it comes out | 16:35 |
| chuckC | each reviewer updates the table? | 16:35 |
| Sukhdev | So, looks like we are settling with the Wiki..right? | 16:35 |
| rkukura | chuckC: I think that is the goal, or it will become obsolete very quickly | 16:36 |
| banix | trinaths: ^^^ sorry mistyped your id | 16:36 |
| rkukura | anyone opposed to dropping the etherpad and using the wiki? | 16:36 |
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| banix | chuckC: yeah using the table i went through a few and added my name there | 16:36 |
| slogan_ | As long as we aren't duplicating what is already in the review - anyway to mine it from gerrit automatically? | 16:36 |
| shivharis | wiki looks organized | 16:36 |
| chuckC | so, summary or no summary? | 16:37 |
| trinaths | chuckC: summary might make the page crowed. | 16:37 |
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| rkukura | #agreed We will track BPs using https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Tracking_ML2_Subgroup_Reviews instead of the etherpad | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev | trinaths: +1 | 16:37 |
| yamamoto | trinaths +1 | 16:37 |
| banix | slogan_: i started looking at options like that but i think there are not that easily doable with the wiki support in OpenStack | 16:37 |
| banix | rkukura: please give me an action item to consolidate | 16:37 |
| rkukura | #action banix to consolidate info from spec tracking etherpad into https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Tracking_ML2_Subgroup_Reviews | 16:38 |
| slogan_ | like the wiki too, thanks. It gives me a place to find reviews to work on that are directly related to the work I plan to do in openstack once (if) I am able to contribute | 16:38 |
| shivharis | add to the etherpad that it is deprecated to no one adds more to it | 16:38 |
| trinaths | banix: you may have a review column, with numer of reviews (+1's) so that the subteam review weightage can be considered. | 16:39 |
| banix | I will spend a bit more time wrt having summary and other info and see how it goes. | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | banix: BTW, Big Thank you for putting together this wiki | 16:39 |
| banix | shivharis: yes, after consolidation will remove content from ethrpad and have a pointer there only | 16:39 |
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| rkukura | Back to my 2 AIs, (how) do we incorporate BP prioritization into the wiki? | 16:39 |
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| banix | Sukhdev: no problem at all (all the colors on the etherpad were bugging me :) ) | 16:40 |
| trinaths | rkukura: we add a priority column | 16:40 |
| Sukhdev | banix: :) | 16:40 |
| rkukura | From this point forward, reviewers should update the wiki rather than the etherpad, right? | 16:40 |
| trinaths | yes | 16:40 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: correct | 16:40 |
| banix | Will remove the etherpad by the end of day today | 16:40 |
| slogan_ | do we need some notes on the wiki about how and when to update? | 16:40 |
| yamamoto | rkukura: separate tables for each priorities? | 16:41 |
| trinaths | banix: also, can we have code review link too in the table. any comments? | 16:41 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: we should add the wiki link into the meeting agenda | 16:41 |
| rkukura | OK, lets add priority as column and keep items in each table sorted by decreasing priotity | 16:41 |
| banix | slogan_: sounds like a good idea | 16:41 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: right | 16:41 |
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| banix | trinaths: you mean for things other than the specs? | 16:41 |
| chuckC | yamamoto: +1 | 16:41 |
| slogan_ | for example, do I just put my name in the first Rn column that is empty if I give any review comments, or if I give a +1? | 16:41 |
| trinaths | rkukura: or we can reorganize with priorities, rather than a column. | 16:41 |
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| rkukura | Do we want separate tables on the wiki for spec reviews vs. code reviews? | 16:42 |
| trinaths | banix: yes, this page shows specs, can we have another page for code or have a column in this table with code review too if there is a code commit. | 16:42 |
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| Sukhdev | trinaths: I thought about it as well, but, I think it will be harder to manage | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: 16 min left | 16:43 |
| banix | running out of time :) will update and send email to the ML and you can send me your comments as well | 16:43 |
| rkukura | Too many columns would be a problem | 16:43 |
| trinaths | banix: it makes us aware, development is happening | 16:43 |
| trinaths | okay.. | 16:43 |
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| banix | trinaths: sure will work on it | 16:43 |
| rkukura | OK, next AI | 16:43 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev to investigate bug 1193861 | 16:43 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: I had an AI | 16:43 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1193861 in neutron "ML2 plugin needs to override bulk operations" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1193861 | 16:43 |
| shivharis | all: i have someone visiting me, need to drop off. ttly on irc. will catch up with the summary | 16:43 |
| rkukura | Any update Sukhdev? | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | Sukhdev: Yes, I went and spoke to Andre about this bug | 16:44 |
| rkukura | shivharis: Thanks! | 16:44 |
| banix | shivharis: bye | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | according to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/APIv2-specification | 16:44 |
| trinaths | banix: will mail you a layout on this. | 16:44 |
| banix | trinaths: great; thx | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | Neutron API support bulk create operations- this bug is about that | 16:44 |
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| Sukhdev | What this bug states is that if a bulk create operation comes down to ML2 Plugin - how do we deal with it, if one of the operations fail | 16:45 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: I did not know we support bulk operations in ML2 Plugin, do we? | 16:46 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: if we do, then this bug is valid - if we do not, then we should close this bug | 16:46 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: I thought they were implemented in the REST layer by calling individual plugin methods for each, not sure if its all inside one big TX or not. | 16:46 |
| banix | Sukhdev: yes they are supported implicitly | 16:46 |
| banix | Sukhdev: but now you should be able to disallow it | 16:47 |
| rkukura | If its inside one TX, then its a bug because postcommits should not be called in transactions | 16:47 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: according to document, it seems to imply that bulk operation is passed down to plugin and it manages as a TX | 16:47 |
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| rkukura | We need to decide if this bug is a priotity for Juno, and if so, have someone investigate and propose solution | 16:48 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: So, how will rest layer handle, if we failed one of the create operations? | 16:48 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: Don’t know - needs investigation | 16:48 |
| chuckC | I suspect TripleO may have a need for bulk (scalable) operations…. | 16:48 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: good question Juno or later? | 16:49 |
| rkukura | Anyone want to take this, or is Andre taking it? | 16:49 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: Andre is not going to take it for Juno | 16:49 |
| rkukura | last AI was me talking with markmcclain re taskflow, but no progress on that yet except for a quick chat with mestery | 16:49 |
| Sukhdev | Does it help or impact anyone here in this team? if yes, we can escalate - otherwise postpone it | 16:50 |
| rkukura | Would anyone else like to investigate this bulk ops bug? | 16:50 |
| markmcclain | rkukura: salv-orlando has also been working on task items too | 16:50 |
| banix | rkukura: will do | 16:50 |
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| Sukhdev | markmcclain: can you share any link/document on the subject? | 16:51 |
| rkukura | markmcclain: Want to see if we can/should use task flow internally in ML2 and/or in specific ML2 drivers | 16:51 |
| banix | markmcclain: or possibly L2 agents | 16:51 |
| rkukura | #action: banix to investigate https://launchpad.net/bugs/1193861 | 16:51 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1193861 in neutron "ML2 plugin needs to override bulk operations" [Medium,Triaged] | 16:51 |
| markmcclain | rkukura: ideally yes | 16:51 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura, markmcclain: I did some brain storming with folks at Arista and we felt that we may still need sync mechanism regardless | 16:52 |
| rkukura | markmcclain: This is kind of separate from the discussion about exposing tasks in the API. Can we discuss offline this week? | 16:52 |
| markmcclain | yeah I don't think we'll fully be able to get rid of sync'ing but we should be able to reduce the amount of it | 16:52 |
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| rkukura | only 8 minutes left | 16:53 |
| rkukura | #topic Bugs | 16:53 |
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| markmcclain | rkukura: yes.. I'm PDT this week | 16:53 |
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| rkukura | markmcclain: ok | 16:53 |
| rkukura | Any bugs that need discussion right now? | 16:53 |
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| rkukura | #topic Spec Reviews | 16:54 |
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| rkukura | We already covered the process enough for today | 16:54 |
| rkukura | One spec review that needs some discussion is https://launchpad.net/bugs/1193861 | 16:54 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: skip it | 16:54 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1193861 in neutron "ML2 plugin needs to override bulk operations" [Medium,Triaged] | 16:54 |
| rkukura | wrong past | 16:54 |
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| rkukura | paste | 16:54 |
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| nlahouti | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/vdp-network-overlay not approved yet. any update on reviewing it? | 16:55 |
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| rkukura | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89208/ | 16:55 |
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| banix | sadasu: you may also want to mention yours here again | 16:55 |
| sadasu | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95236/ review for ML2 UCS manager mech driver | 16:55 |
| rkukura | nlahouti: In general, we are not making good progress on the reviewing the specs. I am way behind on this myself. | 16:55 |
| sadasu | posted updated version based on all comments received so far | 16:55 |
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| nlahouti | rkukura: that spec doesn't have -1 and lots of review and discussion done | 16:56 |
| sadasu | last week..could you pls take a look again? | 16:56 |
| rkukura | The review I pasted has to do with extensions, and we may want to consider adding a new type of driver, ExtensionDriver, to ML2. Lets discuss this next week if not resolved. | 16:56 |
| nlahouti | rkukura: yes | 16:56 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: my last week was very busy - I intend to go back and give another review to all the specs this week | 16:57 |
| sadasu | Sukhdev: thanks! | 16:57 |
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| asomya | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91811/ has two +1's .. ready for core review? | 16:57 |
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| nlahouti | rkukura: that is for extension - can we consider implementing the proposal and add improvement later | 16:57 |
| Sukhdev | asomya: yes, I have been watching it :-) | 16:58 |
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| rkukura | nlahouti: I’m not comfortable about the currently proposed driver API changes | 16:58 |
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| rkukura | nlahouti: Lets continue the discussion in the review and etherpad | 16:58 |
| asadough1 | rkukura: i haven't heard any new ideas on ovs-firewall-driver recently and am strongly considering postponing it to K-cycle given current lack of positive momentum | 16:58 |
| nlahouti | rkukura: ok will do. | 16:59 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: 1 min left | 16:59 |
| rkukura | asadough1: Is there a specific proposal on how to reject firewall rules that cannot be enforced? | 16:59 |
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| rkukura | #topic Open Discussion | 16:59 |
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| banix | Have a look at Modular L2 agent when you get a chance and let me know what you think: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99187/ link toetherpad in the commit message | 16:59 |
| rkukura | banix: Should we put Modular Agent near top of agenda for next week? | 17:00 |
| asadough1 | rkukura: the suggestion for API validation was added to the blueprint | 17:00 |
| yamamoto | how about rotating the order of topics to discuss for each meetings so that every topics will be discussed eventually? :-) | 17:00 |
| banix | rkukura: sure | 17:00 |
| rkukura | times up, anything else? | 17:00 |
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| rkukura | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| banix | ping me if any comments for modular l2 agent | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 11 17:00:58 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-06-11-16.03.html | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-06-11-16.03.txt | 17:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-06-11-16.03.log.html | 17:01 |
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| banix | bye | 17:01 |
| trinaths | bye | 17:01 |
| Kiall | #startmeeting designate | 17:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 11 17:01:16 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Kiall. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:01 |
| Kiall | Hey Guys - Who's here today? | 17:01 |
| richm | here | 17:01 |
| betsy | o/ | 17:01 |
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| rjrjr_ | here | 17:01 |
| timfreund | hello | 17:01 |
| eankutse | here | 17:01 |
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| Kiall | mugsie is out today, so won't be here | 17:01 |
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| Kiall | #topic Review action items from last week (and the week before!) | 17:02 |
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| vinod | o/ | 17:02 |
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| Kiall | first was mugsie to translate etherpads over to launchpad blueprints - he asked me to push this till next week | 17:02 |
| Kiall | first from the week before was "eankutse to get initial answers to jbrattons questions" .. I just saw a draft of this from eankutse | 17:03 |
| eankutse | yes. it's here #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/83671/ | 17:03 |
| Kiall | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/83671/ | 17:03 |
| eankutse | but will put it in bp | 17:03 |
| Kiall | beat me to it :) | 17:03 |
| eankutse | :-) | 17:03 |
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| Kiall | Great - We'll be able to iterate on the answers once it's in there to get a good idea of what we need to allow for in mdns | 17:04 |
| eankutse | sure | 17:04 |
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| Kiall | Next was "eankutse to pick Jbratton's brain on ops side of things for minidns/pools" .. Seems to me the previous item covered it | 17:04 |
| eankutse | that;s the intent | 17:04 |
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| Kiall | Next two were "kiall to write our various initial load scenarios" and "kiall to file BP on exposing the NS (and SOA?) record in the V2 API" - And I've not had time this week :( Every spare minute was getting the devstack gate running right | 17:05 |
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| Kiall | #action kiall to file BP on exposing NS/SOA records in V2 API | 17:05 |
| eankutse | saw all the commits you did :-) | 17:06 |
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| Kiall | #action kiall to write out mdns initial load scenarios and add to eankutse's BP | 17:06 |
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| Kiall | (I think your BP and those will be pretty related) | 17:06 |
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| eankutse | yes they are | 17:06 |
| Kiall | Okay - That was all the actions we missed last week | 17:06 |
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| Kiall | #topic Mini DNS - is 'mdns-designate-mdns-functional' a place holder or explicit functionality? (eankutse) | 17:06 |
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| Kiall | (what a BP name, I apologize for that ;)) | 17:07 |
| eankutse | 1 sec | 17:07 |
| Kiall | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/designate/+spec/mdns-designate-mdns-functional | 17:07 |
| eankutse | yep | 17:07 |
| eankutse | so | 17:07 |
| eankutse | is this item standing on it's own? | 17:08 |
| eankutse | or is it considered done when | 17:08 |
| Kiall | So - My idea when I filed this BP was that, this would be where the skeleton designate-mdns service we now have turns from a skeleton to something useful - even if it's not all of mdns. | 17:08 |
| eankutse | the items below it are done? | 17:08 |
| Kiall | This would be where we actually get more than "SERVFAIL" and get real answers from mdns for simple queries - e.g. SOA lookups | 17:08 |
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| Kiall | (but not AXFR just yet, or TSIG sign requests) | 17:09 |
| eankutse | ok. | 17:09 |
| eankutse | so these would be things leading up to AXFR | 17:09 |
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| Kiall | If that doesn't make sense to anyone but me, we can add/remove BPs etc | 17:09 |
| eankutse | and TSIG | 17:09 |
| eankutse | ok. | 17:10 |
| betsy | kiall: makes sense to me | 17:10 |
| Kiall | eankutse: yea - that was my thinking when I split mdns up into a pile of BPs | 17:10 |
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| betsy | and leads to smaller patch submissions | 17:10 |
| betsy | makes reviewing easier | 17:10 |
| Kiall | Ideally, once this happens, and mdns can answer a simple SOA query, we can fork and have 3 people working on different things.. 1 getting AXFR working, 1 adding TSIG support, 1 writing the supporting code to send DNS notifies | 17:10 |
| Kiall | (fork != github style fork ;)) | 17:11 |
| eankutse | cool | 17:11 |
| Kiall | Oh .. There is 1 other BP blocking this one | 17:11 |
| Kiall | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/designate/+spec/mdns-designate-mdns-dnspy-translations | 17:11 |
| Kiall | That was intended to be where we would write out the "converter" methods to translate from our objects, over to dnspy's objects | 17:12 |
| eankutse | i was thinking this would happen in pieces | 17:12 |
| eankutse | as we implement the other functionality | 17:12 |
| eankutse | eg NOTIFY, | 17:12 |
| eankutse | SOA | 17:12 |
| eankutse | AXFR | 17:12 |
| eankutse | these would 'build up' this bp | 17:13 |
| eankutse | as we go | 17:13 |
| Kiall | e.g. translating an "A" designate.objects.Record to dns.rdata.a.A() (or w/e the dnspy class is called) | 17:13 |
| vinod | Is the blue print mdns-designate-mdns-dnspy-translations different from https://blueprints.launchpad.net/designate/+spec/mdns-designate-mdns-notify? | 17:13 |
| vinod | I would assume so | 17:13 |
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| vinod | The description for blueprint mdns-designate-mdns-dnspy-translations talks about NOTIFY | 17:13 |
| Kiall | vinod: dooh - description is wrong | 17:13 |
| Kiall | title* | 17:13 |
| Kiall | copy and paste fail while filing all them | 17:14 |
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| Kiall | refresh please :) | 17:14 |
| Kiall | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/designate/+spec/mdns-designate-mdns-dnspy-translations | 17:14 |
| Kiall | That was my original intent for that BP - does that change things? | 17:15 |
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| tsimmons | (They're chatting) | 17:15 |
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| Kiall | lol - I was wondering ;) | 17:16 |
| eankutse | so Kiall: what do you think about the piecemeal approach? | 17:16 |
| vinod | I would think that it would be easier to do the translations as we use dnspython objects | 17:16 |
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| Kiall | vinod / eankutse sure - we can cross that BP out and do it bit by bit | 17:17 |
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| eankutse | I like that | 17:17 |
| Kiall | and .. marked as obsolete. | 17:17 |
| vinod | +1 on that | 17:17 |
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| Kiall | Anyone disagree before we move on? | 17:18 |
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| rjrjr_ | i'm good. | 17:18 |
| betsy | kiall: I liked your approach better, but I’m not the one doing the code. | 17:18 |
| betsy | :) | 17:18 |
| Kiall | lol | 17:18 |
| betsy | So, I’m good | 17:18 |
| richm | +1 | 17:19 |
| Kiall | I think getting 1 done before the meat of the mdns-functional done would be a good idea, all is likely not necessary | 17:19 |
| Kiall | getting all done is likely not necessary* | 17:19 |
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| Kiall | Okay .. Moving on so :) | 17:20 |
| Kiall | #topic DevStack (kiall) | 17:20 |
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| Kiall | I think everyone noticed the binge of DevStack patches ;) | 17:20 |
| vinod | #action kiall Mark https://blueprints.launchpad.net/designate/+spec/mdns-designate-mdns-dnspy-translations as obsolete | 17:20 |
| eankutse | :-) | 17:20 |
| betsy | 3 cheers for Kiall! | 17:20 |
| Kiall | it's not all cheers - I had to revert some stuff too :( | 17:20 |
| vinod | So is all the devstack stuff done now? | 17:21 |
| Kiall | https://github.com/stackforge/designate/commit/f205633c6303dd209ece20237ed60fa5043689da | 17:21 |
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| Kiall | That added some nice functionality which, sadly, broke when ran in the gate. as does https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97628/ | 17:21 |
| Kiall | We're going to have to figure out what exactly is breaking so we can get them merged.. I'm frankly stumped on the first one.. and just confused on why unbound is ending up installed, preventing the second one | 17:22 |
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| Kiall | richm: any chance you were able to identify how/why unbound was ending up installed? | 17:22 |
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| vinod | Is it being installed by one of the other projects? | 17:24 |
| Kiall | vinod: "unbound" is nowhere to be found in devstack, so it shouldn't be | 17:24 |
| Kiall | And - When ran locally in vagrant - it's not there... | 17:25 |
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| Kiall | (even with the same set of services/devstack options etc) | 17:25 |
| Kiall | I'm starting to wonder if the infra folks are pre-installing it on all the single use slaves | 17:25 |
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| Kiall | maybe fungi / clarkb know? | 17:26 |
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| richm | Kiall: no, I'm not an ubuntu guy - I'll need to install a vm and do some investigating | 17:26 |
| fungi | Kiall: yes, we install it because we need to cache local dns queries on job workers | 17:26 |
| richm | ok - so looks like, for testing, we'll need to run the designate DNS server on another ip/port | 17:27 |
| Kiall | fungi: ooo. Okay - I can chat with you after then.. We might be able to make them co-exist so long as neither bind to *:53 | 17:27 |
| fungi | Kiall: perhaps, get up with us in #-infra when you're free | 17:27 |
| clarkb | Kiall: importantly we do it because the cloud providers DNS servers don't work... | 17:28 |
| Kiall | richm: or we pick another IP - 127.*.*.* is all "ours" .. just have to make sure we're doing it in a sane way | 17:28 |
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| clarkb | Kiall: if you happen to have any sway in how dns is run at one of them ;) | 17:28 |
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| Kiall | clarkb: lol - recursive dns is not my area ;) | 17:28 |
| Kiall | That's a whole other team | 17:28 |
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| Kiall | thanks fungi / clarkb - at least that solves 1 mystery :) | 17:29 |
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| Kiall | Okay - Anyway - I just put that on the agenda so people could think about/come up with solutions ;) | 17:29 |
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| Kiall | Also - You may have noticed I added a Vagrantfile to the contrib/devstack folder which will spin up DevStack with out plugin in either ubuntu or fedora | 17:30 |
| Kiall | richm: that would be the quickest + easiest way to get a ubuntu VM :) | 17:30 |
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| Kiall | Unless there's any Q's on all the Devstack changes / what's needed going forward we'll move on.. | 17:31 |
| Kiall | So .. Any Q's? :) | 17:31 |
| richm | Kiall: ok - will take a look | 17:32 |
| rjrjr_ | i'm good. | 17:32 |
| eankutse | good work! | 17:32 |
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| vinod | are there more devstack changes to be done? | 17:32 |
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| Kiall | vinod: richm has a patch up that's blocked on the unbound thing that extends the testing we do | 17:32 |
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| Kiall | and we'll want to try and write some tempest tests if we can figure out how to hook into that, as that's going to be expected of us once we incubate | 17:33 |
| rjrjr_ | did we incubate? | 17:33 |
| Kiall | That's next ;) | 17:33 |
| vinod | Is this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98968/ needed for incubation? | 17:33 |
| Kiall | No - Nothing is blocking incubation anymore | 17:33 |
| Kiall | #topic Incubation progress (kiall) | 17:34 |
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| Kiall | may as well ;) | 17:34 |
| Kiall | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97609/ | 17:34 |
| Kiall | ^ the voting .. | 17:34 |
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| Kiall | 6 Yay's, 0 Nay's | 17:34 |
| betsy | It’s looking good | 17:34 |
| eankutse | :-0 | 17:34 |
| eankutse | :-) | 17:34 |
| Kiall | There's also 3 others who voted +1 before the updated patchset | 17:34 |
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| Kiall | markmc asked us to update the mission statemen | 17:35 |
| Kiall | t | 17:35 |
| vinod | So is somebody expected to do a +2 before we can get incubated? | 17:35 |
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| Kiall | myself and graham came up with an alternative wording which made people happy - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97609/3/reference/programs.yaml | 17:35 |
| Kiall | "Enable operators to meet their Domain Name System needs in a stable and scalable manner." <- original wording | 17:36 |
| eankutse | That looks good! | 17:36 |
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| Kiall | Any concerns before it's too late to change it again? | 17:36 |
| vinod | As long as the TC is happy, I am happy | 17:36 |
| Kiall | :) | 17:37 |
| tsimmons | in a* technology-agnostic? | 17:37 |
| Kiall | tsimmons: NOOOOO | 17:37 |
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| betsy | tsimmsons: +1 | 17:37 |
| tsimmons | :O | 17:37 |
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| vinod | eyes or ears? | 17:38 |
| tsimmons | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UUBBVvfBUcM/T1t8Zi673mI/AAAAAAAAA0c/uEdZ-PA4IpI/s1600/homer-simpson-bush-gif.gif | 17:38 |
| Kiall | both | 17:38 |
| Kiall | ^ that | 17:38 |
| tsimmons | I'm sure it'll be fine. | 17:38 |
| Kiall | :) | 17:38 |
| tsimmons | If Anne Gentle (technical writer) didn't care I don't think we have to ;) | 17:38 |
| Kiall | Okay - Anyway, We'll be back on the agenda for the TC meet next week | 17:38 |
| tsimmons | Sweet | 17:39 |
| Kiall | If there are no -1's, I believe that's the end of it | 17:39 |
| Kiall | (or the start, whichever ;)) | 17:39 |
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| vinod | So after incubation do we move to openstack from stackforge? | 17:40 |
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| Kiall | vinod: yes, usually during the next scheduled Gerrit downtime | 17:40 |
| Kiall | (you can't rename gerrit projects without downtime) | 17:40 |
| betsy | kiall: oh, interesting. I thought it wasn’t until after integration | 17:41 |
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| Kiall | I don't think that's the case! | 17:41 |
| Kiall | https://github.com/openstack/barbican suggests it's not :) | 17:41 |
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| tsimmons | Fun. I'm sure that won't mess any scripts up :P | 17:41 |
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| betsy | cool | 17:42 |
| Kiall | tsimmons: you have no idea how much pain that's going to cause me ;) | 17:42 |
| Kiall | Anyway - once accepted, we'll be expected to start doing things like A) submit our devstack plugin to devstack proper and fix all the issues they find, B) start writing tempest tests, C) start writing a horizon plugin etc | 17:43 |
| Kiall | (HP has C covered, we have one we're happy to open source - when we can put it into openstack/horizon) | 17:43 |
| tsimmons | Cool. | 17:43 |
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| Kiall | We'll also have to deal with the fun (aka pain) of the "integrated gate" | 17:44 |
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| Kiall | Approved patches will take much longer than land, but, they'll still land :) | 17:45 |
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| Kiall | http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ the center column gives you an idea of the integrated gate queue times | 17:45 |
| betsy | I know. I’ve looked at that before and been glad we were in that queue | 17:45 |
| Kiall | ;) | 17:46 |
| betsy | The price of incubation | 17:46 |
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| richm | we are cloud developers - we should just horizontally scale out the gate :-) | 17:46 |
| Kiall | richm: lol .. that's exactly what happens ;) | 17:46 |
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| Kiall | there are currently 900 instances acting as test slaves | 17:46 |
| richm | egads | 17:46 |
| Kiall | ;) | 17:46 |
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| Kiall | The first graph at the very bottom of the page shows it | 17:47 |
| Kiall | #topic Open Discussion | 17:47 |
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| Kiall | (Since we're basically onto the open discussion topic anyway) | 17:47 |
| eankutse | I have a quick follow up | 17:47 |
| eankutse | regarding #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/83671/ | 17:47 |
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| Kiall | Internal Server Error | 17:47 |
| Kiall | The server encountered an internal error and was unable to complete your request. Either the server is overloaded or there is an error in the application. | 17:47 |
| Kiall | ;) | 17:47 |
| Kiall | there we go - 3 refreshes later and it came up | 17:48 |
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| eankutse | Can I add it to the current bp where it is? | 17:48 |
| eankutse | since it will all be moved to designate-spec? | 17:48 |
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| Kiall | rather than in designate-specs? yea, for existing BPs moving them over seems pointless | 17:48 |
| eankutse | yea | 17:48 |
| eankutse | ok | 17:49 |
| Kiall | Any other topics? | 17:49 |
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| Kiall | Going once? | 17:50 |
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| tsimmons | I have a quick question | 17:50 |
| tsimmons | That's probably not relevant to everyone :) So it can wait till after, just fyi | 17:50 |
| Kiall | lol .. sure? | 17:51 |
| tsimmons | Alright, as far as extending the v2 api, should we use a similar method to v1, stevedore etc? | 17:51 |
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| vinod | I just wanted to check which patches were still waiting for reviews? | 17:52 |
| Kiall | Yea, i think the old pattern worked well - using stevedore (well, entry points i.e the stuff behind stevedore) let's you write out of tree API extensions | 17:52 |
| tsimmons | I mean you could just write more views/controllers and hack them into the root.py thing, but that seems messy. | 17:52 |
| Kiall | I know we have some very HP-specific extensions for the V1 API | 17:52 |
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| Kiall | tsimmons: yea, hacking them in means forking when you want to add an private extension, and once you have a fork, things go wrong fast :) | 17:53 |
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| Kiall | (Just ask a certain cloud provider how that went down with Nova ;)) | 17:53 |
| tsimmons | Yeah that's no fun. So I guess I'll look at the other projects (none of which seem to use pecan in a similar way) and try and figure out an extension mechanism with pecan. | 17:54 |
| Kiall | vinod: mugsie came up with this for review backlogs http://bit.ly/1u7Zvjy | 17:54 |
| betsy | very bad idea | 17:54 |
| Kiall | vinod: It'll be tailored to you, showing you the patches which you should "probably" look at | 17:55 |
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| vinod | Thanks kiall and musgsie for the link | 17:55 |
| Kiall | tsimmons: yea, the others use WSME on top of Pecan - Which at the time, was simply not ready to be used in any way. | 17:56 |
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| tsimmons | Kiall: Should we switch to that now? | 17:56 |
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| Kiall | <PersonalOpinion>It's still not ready for prime time</PersonalOpinion> | 17:57 |
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| Kiall | But - It is something we should consider at some point.. Just not this cycle. | 17:57 |
| tsimmons | Fine by me. I guess I'll just see what I can figure out with Stevedore | 17:57 |
| tsimmons | and the current state. | 17:58 |
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| Kiall | Okay - Anything else before we call it a day? | 17:58 |
| eankutse | none | 17:58 |
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| vinod | nothing else | 17:58 |
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| Kiall | Okay - Thanks all :) | 17:58 |
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| Kiall | and .. all yours SlickNik :) | 17:59 |
| Kiall | #endmeeting | 17:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 11 17:59:01 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-06-11-17.01.html | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-06-11-17.01.txt | 17:59 |
| SlickNik | Thanks Kiall! :) | 17:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-06-11-17.01.log.html | 17:59 |
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| cp16net | :) | 17:59 |
| SlickNik | #startmeeting trove | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 11 18:00:03 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SlickNik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:00 |
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| SlickNik | Giving folks a few minutes to trickle in | 18:00 |
| kevinconway | o/ | 18:00 |
| pdmars | o/ | 18:00 |
| SlickNik | Agenda at: | 18:00 |
| SlickNik | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting#Agenda_for_Jun_11 | 18:00 |
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| glucas | o/ | 18:00 |
| denis_makogon | o/ | 18:00 |
| iccha | o/ | 18:00 |
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| grapex | o/ | 18:01 |
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| robertmyers | o/ | 18:01 |
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| esmute | o/ | 18:01 |
| hub_cap | #$%^ | 18:01 |
| tvoran | o/ | 18:01 |
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| denis_makogon | hub_cap, so uniq =) | 18:02 |
| hub_cap | denis_makogon: im a uniq snowflake :) | 18:02 |
| SlickNik | #link eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-06-04-17.59.html | 18:02 |
| kevinconway | uniq new york uniq new york | 18:02 |
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| SlickNik | #topic Action Items | 18:02 |
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| SlickNik | There were no action items from last week, so moving on to the agenda items. | 18:03 |
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| SlickNik | #topic Code reviews summary + state of the gate | 18:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Code reviews summary + state of the gate (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:03 | |
| SlickNik | So we've been a better job with the code reviews. | 18:04 |
| kevinconway | stickers for everyone? | 18:04 |
| SlickNik | But we still need to step it up some more. | 18:04 |
| kevinconway | oh.... | 18:04 |
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| denis_makogon | kevinconway, too early | 18:04 |
| SlickNik | You can see a summary the 30-day stats on the agenda page. | 18:04 |
| SlickNik | of the* | 18:04 |
| denis_makogon | in addition | 18:05 |
| denis_makogon | #link http://stackalytics.com/report/contribution/trove-group/30 | 18:05 |
| SlickNik | But the gist of it is that we need more reviews from both core and non-core. | 18:05 |
| SlickNik | So thanks, and keep going! :) | 18:05 |
| denis_makogon | thanks to SlickNik for new dashboards | 18:05 |
| cp16net | tru | 18:06 |
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| cp16net | they have been helpful | 18:06 |
| SlickNik | Okay, that's all I had to say about code reviews. | 18:06 |
| denis_makogon | another question "what's the hell happend to the gate?" | 18:06 |
| SlickNik | Now to the gate | 18:06 |
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| SlickNik | There's been multiple issues causing the current backup we're seeing. | 18:07 |
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| SlickNik | First there was the python packaging bug | 18:07 |
| SlickNik | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1326811 | 18:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1326811 in devstack "Client failing with six =>1.6 error" [Undecided,Fix released] | 18:07 |
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| SlickNik | Then a bug in neutron wrt ping timeout issues. | 18:07 |
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| SlickNik | And now, there's a bug in the dib images that we're building | 18:08 |
| denis_makogon | and sometimes with heat anb it's backend | 18:08 |
| denis_makogon | *and | 18:08 |
| SlickNik | causing rdjenkins to fail | 18:08 |
| SlickNik | So a perfect storm, really. | 18:08 |
| SlickNik | Good news is that most of these are fixed now. | 18:08 |
| denis_makogon | and slow zuul not so long ago =) | 18:08 |
| denis_makogon | we cursed | 18:09 |
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| SlickNik | steveleon and I are looking at the tripleo dib issue. | 18:09 |
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| SlickNik | But we think it's because of this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95598/ | 18:09 |
| SlickNik | Hope to get a fix out for it shortly after this meeting. | 18:10 |
| SlickNik | denis_makogon: zuul is backed up because of a couple of these issues. | 18:10 |
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| SlickNik | but it's getting better. | 18:10 |
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| denis_makogon | true | 18:10 |
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| SlickNik | Any other questions / concerns about the gate? | 18:10 |
| denis_makogon | i guess no | 18:11 |
| SlickNik | Okay then. | 18:11 |
| SlickNik | #topic Juno-1 trove release | 18:11 |
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| SlickNik | We cut the Juno-1 release! | 18:12 |
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| denis_makogon | horray | 18:12 |
| vipul | o/ | 18:12 |
| SlickNik | *high fives all around* | 18:12 |
| SlickNik | \o | 18:12 |
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| denis_makogon | still got 2 releases in nearest future =) | 18:12 |
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| SlickNik | Yup and a lot more in them (this release was short at only 4 weeks) | 18:13 |
| SlickNik | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/juno-1 | 18:13 |
| SlickNik | #link https://github.com/openstack/trove/releases/tag/2014.2.b1 | 18:13 |
| denis_makogon | but we've done a lot of work, tons of bug-fixes | 18:13 |
| cp16net | swaeet | 18:13 |
| denis_makogon | but not so many BPs | 18:14 |
| SlickNik | Yup, thanks to all you guys! | 18:14 |
| SlickNik | many bpsare still in flight. | 18:14 |
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| denis_makogon | agreed | 18:14 |
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| amcrn | o/ | 18:14 |
| denis_makogon | J2 will be very important for us | 18:14 |
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| denis_makogon | because all major features should be proposed before it gets cut | 18:15 |
| SlickNik | Okay, I'll be cutting corresponding releases for the other projects (client / integration) in LP | 18:15 |
| denis_makogon | SlickNik, one question | 18:15 |
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| denis_makogon | there's a several approved BP with reviews that was proposed to J1 but weren't reviewed by core team | 18:15 |
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| denis_makogon | are they gonna be re-targeted ? | 18:16 |
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| SlickNik | They're already targeted to j2 | 18:16 |
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| SlickNik | So they don't need to be re-targeted. | 18:16 |
| denis_makogon | what about review priority | 18:16 |
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| SlickNik | If they got bumped from j1, they should be in j2 now. | 18:16 |
| denis_makogon | get it | 18:16 |
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| denis_makogon | no more questions from my side | 18:17 |
| SlickNik | Cool | 18:17 |
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| SlickNik | #topic Open Discussion | 18:17 |
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| amrith | o/ | 18:18 |
| amrith | just in time! | 18:18 |
| denis_makogon | i've got two things | 18:18 |
| amrith | SlickNik, I have one! | 18:18 |
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| denis_makogon | amrith, go ahead | 18:18 |
| amrith | thx denis_makogon | 18:18 |
| SlickNik | okay, amrith go ahead. | 18:18 |
| denis_makogon | i'll wait | 18:18 |
| amrith | about the mid-cycle meetup | 18:18 |
| amrith | I just added a wiki page | 18:18 |
| amrith | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Trove/JunoCycleMeetup | 18:18 |
| amrith | with a link to the eventbrite | 18:18 |
| SlickNik | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Trove/JunoCycleMeetup | 18:19 |
| amrith | if you are an ATC on Trove and are attending, please signup | 18:19 |
| amrith | Thanks, that's all I had. if you have other quesitons please contact me | 18:19 |
| hub_cap | amrith: kudos for a room block | 18:19 |
| amrith | some had asked about hotels, that information is in. | 18:19 |
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| amrith | hub_cap, thx | 18:19 |
| vipul | is there an address for the location? | 18:19 |
| amrith | yup | 18:19 |
| hub_cap | TESORA WORLD HEADQUARTERS!! | 18:19 |
| amrith | I've also emailed you vipul | 18:19 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, lol | 18:19 |
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| vipul | oh.. gotta read my email then :P | 18:20 |
| hub_cap | aww man yall should totally name it that amrith | 18:20 |
| kevinconway | amrith: will this key-signing party come with dedicated time for signing keys? | 18:20 |
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| denis_makogon | i updated Sprint wiki page for our meetup | 18:20 |
| denis_makogon | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints | 18:20 |
| amrith | kevinconway, yes. and hub_cap will be required to attend | 18:20 |
| hub_cap | hahaahahahhaah GL! | 18:20 |
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| SlickNik | okay, anything else on the meetup? | 18:22 |
| denis_makogon | me | 18:22 |
| denis_makogon | oh, not on meetup =) | 18:22 |
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| SlickNik | okay, go for it denis_makogon | 18:22 |
| denis_makogon | i've sent two emails, one about heat integration (last patch to heat was mergred) and datastore testing | 18:22 |
| denis_makogon | #link http://osdir.com/ml/openstack-dev/2014-06/msg00787.html | 18:23 |
| SlickNik | Yeah, I saw a couple of emails you sent out to openstack-dev (on heat, and datastore gates). | 18:23 |
| denis_makogon | #link http://osdir.com/ml/openstack-dev/2014-06/msg00828.html | 18:23 |
| kevinconway | still using osdir? | 18:23 |
| denis_makogon | it would be nice to see response to them before meeting | 18:23 |
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| denis_makogon | kevinconway, yeah | 18:23 |
| hub_cap | denis_makogon: plz stop using osdir | 18:23 |
| SlickNik | denis_makogon: don't use osdir :) | 18:23 |
| denis_makogon | SlickNik, hub_cap, ok | 18:23 |
| hub_cap | we are beginning to think you get paid for clicks denis_makogon ;) ;) | 18:24 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, 10c per clicl | 18:24 |
| denis_makogon | *click | 18:24 |
| hub_cap | hahahaha | 18:24 |
| SlickNik | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/037255.html | 18:24 |
| hub_cap | so um, go to http://osdir.com/ml/baz-retirement/click.html | 18:24 |
| SlickNik | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/037296.html | 18:25 |
| denis_makogon | SlickNik, thanks | 18:25 |
| robertmyers | hub_cap: server = choose(nova.servers.list()) | 18:25 |
| robertmyers | doh | 18:25 |
| robertmyers | cut and paste fail | 18:25 |
| SlickNik | robertmyers: that too. :) | 18:25 |
| cp16net | is that like flip a coin? | 18:25 |
| cp16net | flip() | 18:25 |
| hub_cap | how did you know id choose a nova server robertmyers ?? | 18:25 |
| denis_makogon | so, guys, feel free to write your thought there | 18:25 |
| hub_cap | ill go with bart17 robertmyers | 18:25 |
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| robertmyers | its a choose your own adventure script | 18:26 |
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| hub_cap | robertmyers: ill die | 18:26 |
| SlickNik | So denis_makogon: Will reply to the mailing list with my thoughts. | 18:26 |
| denis_makogon | heat team is really happy to help us with any other possible use cases =) | 18:26 |
| SlickNik | been busy with release / fighting the gate so haven't had a chance yet. | 18:26 |
| denis_makogon | SlickNik, np =) | 18:26 |
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| SlickNik | Okay, anything else? | 18:27 |
| denis_makogon | nope | 18:27 |
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| SlickNik | Anyone else? | 18:27 |
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| amrith | SlickNik, sidebar later? | 18:27 |
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| SlickNik | #endmeeting | 18:29 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 11 18:29:01 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-06-11-18.00.html | 18:29 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-06-11-18.00.txt | 18:29 |
| SlickNik | Thanks all! | 18:29 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-06-11-18.00.log.html | 18:29 |
| cp16net | nice thanks | 18:29 |
| cp16net | :) | 18:29 |
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| esp | thx! | 18:30 |
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