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| johnthetubaguy | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 12 14:00:34 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnthetubaguy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | hello everyone | 14:00 |
| funzo | good morning | 14:00 |
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| n0ano | nope, nobody | 14:00 |
| mriedem | hi | 14:00 |
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| cyeoh | hi | 14:01 |
| gibi | hello | 14:01 |
| alaski | hi | 14:01 |
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| danpb | afternoon | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Juno mid-cycle meet up | 14:01 |
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| mzoeller | hi folks | 14:01 |
| PhilD | G'day Blue | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | so this is mostly informational | 14:01 |
| n0ano | johnthetubaguy, just say g'day a lot | 14:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/BeavertonJunoSprint | 14:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | n0ano: sure :) | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyone got anything about the meet up | 14:02 |
| * danpb will sadly miss the mid-cycle meetup due to holiday plans | 14:02 | |
| johnthetubaguy | not seen an etherpad started for topics yet | 14:02 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: there isn't an etherpad but the wiki has some things under 'nova specifics' | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://www.eventbrite.com.au/e/openstack-nova-juno-mid-cycle-developer-meetup-tickets-11878128803 | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | is the registration | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-mid-cycle-meetup | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | well I created one, lets put topics on there I guess | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | any more for any more? | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Juno-1 | 14:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | well again, this is just to say its released, effectively | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://github.com/openstack/nova/releases/tag/2014.2.b1 | 14:04 |
| n0ano | sorry, back to meetup, there's a pad at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/BeavertonJunoSprint | 14:04 |
| n0ano | or a link to one anyway | 14:04 |
| mriedem | i'll put the etherpad link in the wiki | 14:05 |
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| johnthetubaguy | n0ano: just added that, but yes, feel free to add to it :) | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, oops | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | two links | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | never mind | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, any more on juno-1? | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | hopefully not | 14:05 |
| mriedem | nope | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Juno-2 | 14:05 |
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| johnthetubaguy | OK, so we are unfreezing the approving of blueprints now | 14:06 |
| baoli | johnthetubaguy: Hi | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | #info its time to start reviewing blueprints again | 14:06 |
| baoli | I have a pending review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86606/ | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | baoli: going to push those to the Open discussion if thats OK | 14:06 |
| baoli | sure | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | just thinking process wise for now, any issues? | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | we really didn't get much into juno-1 | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | so we kinda need to fix that in juno-2 | 14:07 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: i felt like we had 2 weeks last week for juno-1 bp reviews | 14:07 |
| mriedem | like june 20-something was the deadline | 14:07 |
| mriedem | but might be confused | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | hmm, OK, some miss communication there, sorry about that | 14:08 |
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| mriedem | anyway, gate has been bad for the last week | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | two weeks ago at this time we had two weeks ish | 14:08 |
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| mriedem | ha | 14:08 |
| mriedem | personally i'm fine with fewer approved blueprints | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | but the gate has hampered the push a bit, for sure | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | we should get more people to help with that, if possible | 14:08 |
| mriedem | we have ~1500 bugs or something crazy | 14:08 |
| cyeoh | be nice to get a priority on spec reviews, otherwise we end up with a worse merge crunch for juno-2 which will then flow on to juno-3 | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah more bugs was good | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | cyeoh: agreed | 14:08 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: i mean a backlog | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think we should have a blueprint review push this next week | 14:09 |
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| mriedem | so != good :) | 14:09 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: oh yeah, I missready lol | 14:09 |
| mriedem | so we have a shitload of bugs | 14:09 |
| mriedem | we have reverts for gate issues on a seemingly daily basis | 14:09 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I meant we fixed more bugs than blueprints, but not sure we moved the neadle too far | 14:09 |
| mriedem | poor attendance at the bug day last week | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I had a bad clash with other stuff myself, which was screwy | 14:10 |
| mriedem | i feel like our priorities aren't in the right place...so adding spec reviews and features on top of all that is counter productive | 14:10 |
| cyeoh | mriedem: do we have lots of reverts because we're simply merging stuff we shouldn't have in the first place? (sorry I haven't been able to keep up with them) | 14:10 |
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| mriedem | cyeoh: some yes - we'll get to that in the bug discussion | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah… lets sit on that one for now | 14:10 |
| mriedem | anyway we can move on | 14:11 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: so my thinking is we try and get through the blueprint backlog | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | then we draw a soft line in the sand, to say no more, we have all we can do for juno | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | lets do more bugs | 14:11 |
| mriedem | what is 'getting through the blueprint backlog' though? | 14:11 |
| mriedem | the specs that are up for juno? | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: I think its more decide what blueprints currently up for reveiw we really need | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | to getting the list of high and medium sorted | 14:12 |
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| johnthetubaguy | does that make any sense? | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | then we kinda shut the floodgates, so we can get some bugs fixed | 14:12 |
| mriedem | sort of yeah, i know what you're saying | 14:12 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I am thinking of a fixed size funnel, and wanting to leave room for bug fixes, and structural work | 14:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | one last thing, any blueprints people don't want to leave till juno-3 but we need in juno | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | its worth a think | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | stuff that will be too risky for juno-3 but we want it | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | some of the scheduler rework feels like that | 14:14 |
| PhilD | Perpahs we need to have acut off date for new BPs - and then prioirtise the ones that are in nova-specs at that point (both for spec review and implementation) | 14:14 |
| mriedem | PhilD: agree with that | 14:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | PhilD: yeah, I think that is what I am saying, just not very well | 14:15 |
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| dansmith | like -2 the ones currently proposed with "we're not going to spend time on this, sorry" ? | 14:15 |
| mriedem | basically if you don't have a spec filed by mid juno-2 yo'ure out | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: +1 | 14:15 |
| dansmith | the ones that we don't want to prioritize I mean | 14:15 |
| mriedem | then prioritize the rest that are available for review | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: +1 | 14:15 |
| mriedem | otherwise they'll just keep coming | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | so.. | 14:15 |
| dansmith | I think it's important that we look at what we have, prioritize, and not just assume anything that is proposed gets the same amount of attention | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | 3rd July sounds good right? | 14:16 |
| danpb | well we'd want some flexibility in there IMHO | 14:16 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, its that prioritise, we need to do that better | 14:16 |
| danpb | because sometimes blueprints are really very trivial | 14:16 |
| mriedem | danpb: sure there can be exceptions | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: yeah, always exceptions possible | 14:16 |
| mriedem | trivial low-risk bp's or late in the release changes, like nova/neutron events for example | 14:16 |
| devananda | johnthetubaguy: hi! I'd like to point out the ironic driver spec which has been up for ~3 weeks | 14:16 |
| PhilD | We coudl say that after a date you need to start putting entries into the "K" directory for specs - maybe moving things there rather tnan -2 would be better too | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | devananda: we stopped reviewing for two weeks, to get juno-1 sorted, appologies | 14:17 |
| devananda | johnthetubaguy: let's not leave it until the last minute :) | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | devananda: yours is in that high priority list in your head! | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | PhilD: thats fair | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | so… the proposal | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | July 3rd, no new proposals for juno specs | 14:18 |
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| johnthetubaguy | allow proposals for K, but low priority for reviews | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | exceptions to be raised in nova-meeting for review | 14:18 |
| devananda | johnthetubaguy: "in my head"? | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | does that work? | 14:18 |
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| PhilD | Works for me - and also idetify specs currently in juno that should be moved to K ? | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | devananda: yeah, there is an etherpad of priorities from the summit, but its a bit neglected right now | 14:19 |
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| johnthetubaguy | PhilD: thats a point... | 14:19 |
| cyeoh | that sounds fine to me, but definitely want an email to openstack-dev so people know about the deadline well in advance | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | By July 10, nova-drivers to agree high and medium priority items, and stuff that must not be in Juno as its too late | 14:19 |
| PhilD | Feels that it would be better to more a spec to K reather than -2 it if we mean "not yet". | 14:20 |
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| johnthetubaguy | cyeoh: +1 | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | PhilD: well, −2 till you re-propose this for K | 14:20 |
| danpb | yeah, "-2" is a very negative thing to say to a contributor and should be avoided unless we don't want it ever | 14:20 |
| yjiang51 | PhilD: I think -2 no forever, while move to K is next cycle. | 14:20 |
| yjiang51 | danpb: +1 | 14:21 |
| PhilD | Is that ""nova-drivers propose a list that we confirm in a nova meeting" ? | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | PhilD: yeah, thats fair | 14:21 |
| mriedem | or just FFE | 14:21 |
| mriedem | seems like the same process | 14:21 |
| PhilD | philthefairguy | 14:21 |
| mriedem | nova-drivers say they want to defer | 14:21 |
| mriedem | if you have a strong case for keeping it in juno, FFE | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | #action johnthetubaguy to send process for Juno blueprints to dev list for review | 14:21 |
| mriedem | then PTL decides i guess - with core team backing for review | 14:22 |
| mriedem | we're really just moving the FFE thing way to the left | 14:22 |
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| johnthetubaguy | well, either way, shout up you feel like we have the wrong end of the stick | 14:22 |
| mriedem | let them shout in the ML, let's move on :) | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic bugs | 14:23 |
| PhilD | Well FF for specs being eariler that FF for implemetaion makes sense to me | 14:23 |
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| johnthetubaguy | OK, not seen a hot bug list, but we have a few on the meeting agenda from mikal | 14:24 |
| mriedem | tjones doesn't appear to be around | 14:24 |
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| johnthetubaguy | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/037304.html | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | lp1328694 | 14:24 |
| mriedem | that's mine | 14:24 |
| mriedem | oh goody | 14:24 |
| mriedem | so when we talk about things that merged which shouldn't have, ^ | 14:24 |
| mriedem | that was a feature that got in via bug report | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | crap | 14:25 |
| mriedem | api and db api changes, cli changes, doc impacts, potential performance impacts, etc | 14:25 |
| mriedem | the question now is do we fix the bug where ceilometer is spamming the n-api logs, | 14:25 |
| mriedem | or do we revert the nova change and make this go through nova-specs | 14:25 |
| devananda | johnthetubaguy: I dont see a link in scrollback to the priories etherpad you mention, or in the list of Juno Summit etherpads. would you mind sharing that? | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | devananda: I will have to dig that up, was a few nova meetings ago | 14:26 |
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| cyeoh | mriedem: how long ago did the api change merge? | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: I am tempted to say revert and thinking it though | 14:26 |
| mriedem | cyeoh: couple weeks | 14:26 |
| devananda | johnthetubaguy: ack, thanks for the pointer. i'll look in the archives | 14:26 |
| mriedem | cyeoh: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81429/ | 14:26 |
| mriedem | merged on 5/22 | 14:27 |
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| mriedem | cli change was after that | 14:27 |
| mriedem | and ceilometer change after that which exposed the bug we have now | 14:27 |
| mriedem | introduced by the api change above | 14:27 |
| leifz | revert if it's after juno start? | 14:27 |
| mriedem | my bigger concern is the polling | 14:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | leifz: people deploy off trunk though, its not always that simple | 14:27 |
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| johnthetubaguy | PhilD: what do you recon about this specific instance? | 14:27 |
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| johnthetubaguy | it seems like we should revert this and do this properly, but we did just release it in Juno-1 | 14:28 |
| mriedem | ceilometer is hitting the nova db and api server every time it polls on all servers and all floating ips | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | so maybe we revert, and re-spin Juno-1 | 14:28 |
| mriedem | idk about juno-1 | 14:28 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: what does that mean? | 14:28 |
| mriedem | the only consumer is ceilometer | 14:28 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: "respin j1" | 14:28 |
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| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: I was just thinking about that too, it doesn't really mean anything :( | 14:29 |
| mriedem | :) | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | remove the tag? | 14:29 |
| mriedem | no | 14:29 |
| mriedem | not worth that | 14:29 |
| PhilD | Sorry - got distracted. What was the question ? | 14:29 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: okay, I was wondering if you had a delorean I didn't know about :) | 14:29 |
| mriedem | delorean won't fit the tuba | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: I have a lot of junk in my loft, but sadly no :( | 14:29 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: heh | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: true, true | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyway... | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | to revert or not to revert | 14:29 |
| mriedem | the question is if we revert this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81429/ | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | yuck | 14:29 |
| mriedem | along with the related novaclient change | 14:30 |
| mriedem | and then make this go through bp review process | 14:30 |
| dansmith | If it's a small window, | 14:30 |
| dansmith | and we know it's bad, | 14:30 |
| dansmith | I'd rather revert ASAP | 14:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, +1 | 14:30 |
| dansmith | especially if it was a special interface to be consumed by a machine and not a user | 14:30 |
| cyeoh | +1 to revert | 14:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK, anyone against a revert? | 14:30 |
| leifz | 20 day window is small in my book +1 | 14:30 |
| mriedem | would be good if some of the nova core team will read the related ML and respond with opinions there | 14:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: are you cool to propose the revert? | 14:30 |
| mriedem | since that has the defaults | 14:30 |
| mriedem | *details | 14:30 |
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| PhilD | Revert sounds OK to me | 14:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | #help please respond to http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/037304.html | 14:31 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: i'm more than cool, but want informed consensus first, i.e. responses in the ML so i know people read it | 14:31 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, totally | 14:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | so, lp1323658 | 14:31 |
| mriedem | i am more or less worried about allowing precedent for ceilometer to change nova apis for it's polling needs | 14:31 |
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| johnthetubaguy | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/037221.html | 14:31 |
| cyeoh | and just a reminder to reviewers that any api change even if its backwards compatible *has* to go through nova-specs | 14:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | ssh timeout bug, a request for nova help | 14:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | cyeoh: agreed, maybe I should send an email about that | 14:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | #action johnthetubaguy to ensure we restate that all api changes need a nova-spec | 14:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | so about the ssh timeout help | 14:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | was that neutron and nova-network? | 14:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | #help need someone to help with lp 1323658 as it would help the gate a lot | 14:33 |
| mriedem | the email from kyle was for neutron | 14:33 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1323658 in nova "Nova resize/restart results in guest ending up in inconsistent state" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1323658 | 14:33 |
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| mriedem | it's a set of neutron scenario tests | 14:34 |
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| mriedem | sounds like a problem when the instance goes through resize/restart | 14:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, just with it being nova side, I was curious, but I guess we need to dig | 14:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 14:34 |
| mriedem | there was a separate gate blocker on ssh timeouts with nova-network | 14:34 |
| mriedem | we reverted a tempest change on monday morning to get past that, but the bug is still open | 14:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, thats probably why I am confused | 14:34 |
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| mriedem | we're thinking there is a leak in nova-network somewhere | 14:34 |
| mriedem | i'm suspicious of the ec2 3rd party tempest tests and/or the ec2 api | 14:35 |
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| mriedem | given those don't get much love and run concurrently with the scenario tests that were failing | 14:35 |
| PhilD | Could the bug here be that stop/resize do a power off that could lead to a data corruption ? | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | PhilD: good sell for your blueprint there, but yeah, you have a point | 14:35 |
| PhilD | (I have that fix pendeing to do a controlled shutdown instead) | 14:35 |
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| mriedem | PhilD: not sure, could be that networking isn't associated correctly when the instance comes back up | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | fails to come back up would mean no ssh | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | they suggest no console output | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | like the VM failed to boot | 14:36 |
| PhilD | If its reproducabel it woudl be easy for someone to pull in my propsoed fix and see if it helps | 14:36 |
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| johnthetubaguy | PhilD: well its kinda flakey rather than always, at least that was my impression, but its worth a whirl | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh wait | 14:37 |
| dansmith | mriedem: what does leak mean here, leaking floating ips or something? | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | were we going to skip the graceful shutdown in the gate, becuase it gets too slow? | 14:37 |
| mriedem | dansmith: yeah i think so | 14:37 |
| * johnthetubaguy is worries about the time, hoped to start sub teams at half past | 14:37 | |
| mriedem | anyway, the nova-network ssh timeout bug is discussed here http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/037002.html | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 14:37 |
| PhilD | With th enew fix it only adds ~5 minutes to the gate | 14:38 |
| mriedem | mikal has a patch to add more trace logging to nova-network | 14:38 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: did you say there was something else you wanted to cover here? | 14:38 |
| mriedem | but we seemed to be hitting the problem around 250 instances | 14:38 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: no | 14:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: cool, we covered it now | 14:38 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: oh wait | 14:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | sure | 14:38 |
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| mriedem | from agenda | 14:38 |
| mriedem | "spotting bug "themes", like force_config_drive and resize/migrate (mostly due to those not being tested with multi-node hosts in the gate)" | 14:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | any more on bugs | 14:38 |
| mriedem | tjones had that, i added resize/migrate | 14:39 |
| mriedem | i've been tagging resize/migrate bugs even though it's not an official tag | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 14:39 |
| mriedem | but in the hopes that we avoid duplicates | 14:39 |
| mriedem | since we don't have multi-node testing in the gate to test migrations | 14:39 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: that was my reason to add that idea there, yeah | 14:39 |
| mriedem | i'm going to attend the qa meeting today, see what needs to be done for that | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | so mikal wanted me to raise ideas about how we improve our bug triage | 14:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | basically a call to put thinking caps on | 14:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | and send proposals to the ML | 14:40 |
| mspreitz | I wouldn't mind some answers on https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1327406 | 14:40 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1327406 in nova "The One And Only network is variously visible" [Undecided,In progress] | 14:40 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: as you said, I think picking a bug theme, then chasing it down, looking for duplicates, etc, might be a good way to go | 14:41 |
| mriedem | attendance at the bug meeting yesterday wasn't great from what i could tell, it was my first time though :) | 14:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | so next time you pick up a bug, or triage a bug, maybe check for duplicates, and maybe we start tagging some common themes | 14:41 |
| danpb | johnthetubaguy: we should probably put bug discussion as the last agenda item next time as it expands to consume all available time :-) | 14:41 |
| mriedem | yeah let's move on | 14:41 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, I need to make myself free for that again, its a slightly awkard time for me | 14:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 14:41 |
| mriedem | it's basically tagging, not really triage | 14:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Gate status | 14:42 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I think we actually covered this in bugs | 14:42 |
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| dansmith | "sucky" | 14:42 |
| dansmith | lets move on | 14:42 |
| dansmith | :P | 14:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | quite | 14:42 |
| mriedem | yeah | 14:42 |
| mriedem | it's better | 14:42 |
| mriedem | from friday | 14:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | help please help, ssh bug is one | 14:42 |
| mriedem | http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/ | 14:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Sub team reports | 14:42 |
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| * n0ano gantt | 14:43 | |
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| danpb | Libvirt: nothing especially notable to report this week | 14:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | xenapi: same, nothing to report, general CI progress | 14:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | n0ano: fire away | 14:43 |
| cyeoh | nova-api: just looking for nova-spec reviews so we can start merging stuff | 14:43 |
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| devananda | ironic is finally unblocked after the revert to the HostState.__init__ landed. | 14:44 |
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| johnthetubaguy | cyeoh: ack, they are in the top priority list in my head too | 14:44 |
| baoli | johnthetubaguy: is this right time to talk about sriov? | 14:44 |
| n0ano | biggest thing is we've decided to abondon the no-db BP (for now), given recent improvement it's a premature optimzation for the moment | 14:44 |
| cyeoh | johnthetubaguy: thx! | 14:44 |
| devananda | we were able to get in a lot of bug fixes this week. otherwise, just looking for our spec to be reviewed so we can start planning to merge the driver around the time of the mid-cycle | 14:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | baoli: yep, I have added you to the queue, | 14:44 |
| baoli | thx! | 14:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | n0ano: any more on scheduler | 14:45 |
| baoli | So the nova-spec for sriov is pending | 14:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | I see some progress on the split out, just proving hard | 14:45 |
| n0ano | forklift is still WIP (work in progress), hope for some concrete results by juno-2, we'll see | 14:45 |
| n0ano | that's about all | 14:45 |
| baoli | we also need core reviewers for this bug: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81954/ | 14:45 |
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| johnthetubaguy | baoli: keep bugging me about your sepc, we should get to that in the blueprint push thats coming up | 14:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK, any more sub team reports? | 14:47 |
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| baoli | johnthetubaguy: sure. | 14:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Open Discussion | 14:47 |
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| funzo | I'm working with several folks on getting the nova-docker hypervisor plugin squared away for feature parity and tempest test failures fixed. I'd like to have the plugin be considered for merging back into the nova tree (probably K?). does anyone have thoughts about this? | 14:47 |
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| danpb | i have a question about our policy wrt changes which help Python3 portability | 14:48 |
| danpb | eg https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98573/ | 14:48 |
| danpb | Joe rejected that saying we shouldn't do python3 port work | 14:48 |
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| devananda | so i have a question about nova.virt.baremetal. how much do ya'll want to deprecate it? | 14:49 |
| danpb | IMHO if people wish to contribute patches to help Nova code portaibility to Python3 we should welcome it | 14:49 |
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| dansmith | danpb: yeah, that response confuses me | 14:49 |
| danpb | so that when our external deps do finally support python3, nova code will mostly be ready | 14:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: yeah, I didn't think we were going to block that, just not put it as high priority | 14:49 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #action johnthetubaguy to reach out to jogo about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98573/ | 14:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | Ok, so we have some agenda items here | 14:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | alaski: you added some? | 14:50 |
| danpb | anyone know if there's a wiki page mentioning nova's python3 status ? | 14:50 |
| danpb | if so i could edit it to make this policy clearer | 14:50 |
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| johnthetubaguy | danpb: I don't remember one, worth proposing I guess | 14:50 |
| alaski | johnthetubaguy: I didn't... maybe something was carried over from last week? | 14:50 |
| leifz | danpb: maybe on the code review page as well? | 14:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | alaski: oops, probably my bad | 14:51 |
| mriedem | danpb: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Python3 | 14:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | cyeoh: I put down your v3 API specs, but I guess we should discuss those in the review | 14:51 |
| alaski | johnthetubaguy: well I can ask about tasks here | 14:51 |
| devananda | or is everyone content leaving nova.virt.baremetal in its current semi-frozen state in the tree for ever? | 14:51 |
| danpb | mriedem: ah, thanks | 14:52 |
| mriedem | devananda: i'd like the nova bugs tagged with baremetal to be triaged/moved if that's the case | 14:52 |
| mriedem | devananda: if they aren't critical for nova bm driver, let's move them from nova to ironic | 14:52 |
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| danpb | devananda: if we leave it in forever, then someone still has to deal with any security issues that may arise with it | 14:52 |
| danpb | and its a burden for people when they want to refactor internal code | 14:52 |
| devananda | mriedem: so, it /should/ be deprecated and replaced by ironic, but that wont happen if no one reviews it | 14:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I feel bad about leaving it in tree for ever | 14:52 |
| cyeoh | johnthetubaguy: yep I'm happy to discuss that in review - v2.1 on v3 is the priority, but also the API policy check one (by alex xu which is half merged anyway)) and tasks (alaski) | 14:53 |
| devananda | danpb: exactly | 14:53 |
| danpb | so IMHO, we should be aiming to replace it with ironic, not let it rot forever | 14:53 |
| mriedem | devananda: that should'nt prevent the ironic team from triaging those bugs though right? | 14:53 |
| devananda | danpb: i dont want to see that. it's unmaintaned code. it shouldn't be there | 14:53 |
| devananda | mriedem: totally different code. | 14:53 |
| devananda | mriedem: the baremetal driver is untested and unmaintaned | 14:53 |
| mriedem | i hope we have a warning in the driver to that effect... | 14:53 |
| devananda | mriedem: with a slight exception -- tripleo was, until recently, using it and, well, filing tons of bugs | 14:53 |
| devananda | mriedem: we dont | 14:54 |
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| cyeoh | johnthetubaguy: also although we've slated micoversions for the mid cycle I do think we need to move it along a bit beforehad because tasks is probably a bit dependent on it in practice (if we want to merge it fully in Juno) | 14:54 |
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| danpb | mriedem: its tagged Tier-3 isn't it | 14:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | cyeoh: yeah, that makes sense | 14:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: it never really got deprecated officially yet though | 14:54 |
| mriedem | danpb: yeah https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HypervisorSupportMatrix#Group_C | 14:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | its in limbo | 14:54 |
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| johnthetubaguy | devananda: so just to be clear, what you want is more reviews? | 14:55 |
| devananda | right ^ but there's not an actual Deprecation warning in the logs, is what I mean | 14:55 |
| alaski | cyeoh: yes. at this point I'm still aiming for v3 as is, but am happy to use tasks to make progress on our new direction | 14:55 |
| funzo | any thoughts about the nova-docker driver moving back into the tree provided the tempest tests are passing? | 14:55 |
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| devananda | johnthetubaguy: one thing I want, which we talked *at length* about at the summit, is landing the nova.virt.irnoic driver | 14:55 |
| devananda | johnthetubaguy: which requires getting reviews on the spec as a first step | 14:55 |
| devananda | johnthetubaguy: and, once that's agreeable and approved, then getting reviews on the driver code | 14:55 |
| mriedem | devananda: i'm adding one now | 14:55 |
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| cyeoh | alaski: yep I'm ok with that - either will let us expose it as experimental and get some real world testing on it. | 14:56 |
| devananda | johnthetubaguy: which will be a forklift from the ironic tree of several thousand lines. | 14:56 |
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| devananda | mriedem: ++ | 14:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | devananda: agreed, just checking, are you proposing that baremetal lives for ever? | 14:56 |
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| danpb | once Ironic lands, we should definitely add a deprecation warning in Baremetal | 14:56 |
| devananda | johnthetubaguy: absolutely not :) | 14:56 |
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| johnthetubaguy | devananda: sorry, totally misread what you put then, good good | 14:56 |
| devananda | johnthetubaguy: was just playing devil's advocate, since taht is what would happen if we dont merge nova.virt.irnoic (or you guys dont simply kick baremetal out) | 14:56 |
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| dansmith | three minute warning | 14:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | devananda: I was hoping thats true :) | 14:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: ack | 14:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: and thank you :) | 14:57 |
| devananda | there's a fairly large team from lots of companies committed to maintaining ironic (and the nova driver for it) at this point | 14:57 |
| * dansmith has another meeting to get to | 14:57 | |
| devananda | and almost no one looknig at baremetal | 14:57 |
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| johnthetubaguy | devananda: I couldn't agree more to removing it, but would be good to have the transition plan sorted first | 14:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways we should review the spec | 14:58 |
| devananda | johnthetubaguy: well, turns out we do have it sorted | 14:58 |
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| johnthetubaguy | devananda: awesomeness | 14:58 |
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| johnthetubaguy | any more for any more? | 14:58 |
| funzo | thoughts about nova-docker? | 14:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | we are out of agenda items I think | 14:58 |
| dansmith | and time | 14:58 |
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| funzo | haha | 14:58 |
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| n0ano | fungi, just do it :-) | 14:59 |
| johnthetubaguy | funzo: well I think it follows the usual patter, prove stability, then propose the spec with the details | 14:59 |
| johnthetubaguy | pattern^ | 14:59 |
| funzo | johnthetubaguy: ok | 14:59 |
| funzo | thank you | 14:59 |
| johnthetubaguy | funzo: the bigger discussion is feature compatibility | 15:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool, so we are done | 15:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | thanks all for attending | 15:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 12 15:00:22 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2014/nova.2014-06-12-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2014/nova.2014-06-12-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2014/nova.2014-06-12-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 12 15:01:34 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | hello | 15:02 |
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| xyang1 | hi | 15:02 |
| deepakcs | hi bswartz | 15:02 |
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| vponomaryov | hello | 15:02 |
| ameade | o/ | 15:02 |
| scott_da | hi | 15:02 |
| csaba | hi | 15:02 |
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| tbarron | hi | 15:02 |
| bswartz | yay I'm not in the wrong room | 15:02 |
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| dustins | hello! | 15:02 |
| bswartz | sometimes it's quiet and I worry | 15:02 |
| bswartz | haha | 15:02 |
| deepakcs | :) | 15:02 |
| bswartz | so I only have a few things | 15:02 |
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| bswartz | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:03 |
| bswartz | let's do dev status first today | 15:03 |
| bswartz | #topic dev status | 15:03 |
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| vponomaryov | dev status is next: | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | 1) Manila API docs | 15:03 |
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| vponomaryov | bp: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/manila-documentation | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | gerrit: #link https://review.openstack.org/98462 | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | Also added 'docs' CI job. It works with above gerrit change. | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | 2) Remove dependency for 'mox' module | 15:04 |
| vponomaryov | bp: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/replace-mox-with-mock | 15:04 |
| vponomaryov | gerrit: #link https://review.openstack.org/99362 | 15:04 |
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| vponomaryov | TODO: | 15:04 |
| vponomaryov | 1) Update 'docs' for manilaclient | 15:04 |
| vponomaryov | 2) finish update of 'docs' for manila | 15:04 |
| vponomaryov | 3) finish port of unittests from mox to mock | 15:04 |
| vponomaryov | That's main stuff | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | okay I saw some comments on the docs | 15:05 |
| bswartz | some "cinder" needs to be changed to "manila" still | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov: you're fixing that? | 15:05 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: yes, it should be updated | 15:05 |
| bswartz | k | 15:06 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, ya and some places it says block storage.. i was planning send a itty bitty patch for that | 15:06 |
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| bswartz | deepakcs: if you just make some review comments vponomaryov can handle it | 15:06 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, ya will start revireing | 15:06 |
| deepakcs | *reviewing | 15:06 |
| bswartz | all of the sudden interest in docs is because we're lining up our ducks to go before the TC about incubation soon | 15:07 |
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| deepakcs | source/index.rst -> says 'blcok storage as a service | 15:07 |
| deepakcs | but i was not sure | 15:07 |
| bswartz | just about everything else is taken care of | 15:07 |
| deepakcs | if index.rst is used anywhere ..since we had docs/* files | 15:07 |
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| vponomaryov | deepakcs: https://review.openstack.org/98462 | 15:07 |
| deepakcs | vponomaryov, ok :) | 15:08 |
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| xyang1 | bswartz: does everything has to turn green for incubation request to be accepted? | 15:08 |
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| bswartz | ty vponomaryov | 15:08 |
| bswartz | xyang1: no that's just our own assessment of where we need to focus our efforts | 15:08 |
| vponomaryov | xyang1, bswartz: one left - votable devstack job | 15:08 |
| vponomaryov | except finished API docs update | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | xyang1: we've taken a look at various other projects the TC has accepted for incubation and we believe we are more mature than several of them in nearly every way | 15:09 |
| bswartz | we just want to make it as easy as possible to say yes | 15:09 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: that's good | 15:09 |
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| deepakcs | autogen of docs is not yet done, rite ? | 15:10 |
| vponomaryov | deepakcs: what do you mean? autogen itself already exist | 15:10 |
| bswartz | deepakcs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98465/ | 15:10 |
| deepakcs | vponomaryov, there was some discussion in last mtg.. i was trying to check on that. | 15:10 |
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| deepakcs | vponomaryov, bswartz cool | 15:11 |
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| bswartz | Merged Jun 10 | 15:11 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, ok | 15:11 |
| bswartz | :) | 15:11 |
| bswartz | okay next topic | 15:11 |
| bswartz | #topic access groups | 15:11 |
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| bswartz | ameade: you have the floor | 15:11 |
| ameade | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/access-groups | 15:11 |
| ameade | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-access-groups-api-proposal | 15:11 |
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| ameade | I sent these links out in an email just before the meeting | 15:12 |
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| ameade | the second link is what we are proposing for the API resources and DB schema changes | 15:12 |
| ameade | I'm hoping it's relatively self explanatory but let me know where i need to elaborate | 15:13 |
| bswartz | ameade: the BP looks slightly out of date :-( | 15:13 |
| ameade | yeah | 15:13 |
| bswartz | based on the recent design discussion we probably should mention the concept of user access and user access groups | 15:13 |
| vponomaryov | ameade: what email groups did you use for sending this update? | 15:13 |
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| bswartz | openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org | 15:13 |
| ameade | yeah | 15:13 |
| bswartz | just about 1 hour ago it looks like | 15:14 |
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| vponomaryov | I don't see it ,is there manila tag? | 15:14 |
| bswartz | yeah I got the mail | 15:14 |
| bswartz | Subject:[openstack-dev] [manila] Access Groups API and DB changes | 15:14 |
| ameade | yeah, perhaps it is being slow, there isnt any extra info in there anyhow | 15:14 |
| xyang1 | I see it | 15:14 |
| bswartz | so a summary of the idea is that we plan to support groups of IP/subnets and groups of users | 15:15 |
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| bswartz | and these can be added to shares with the allow API like ordinary IP/subnets and users | 15:15 |
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| bswartz | the semantics should remain the same, except that when you modify a group's members, any shares that grant access to the group will be updated automagically | 15:16 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz, ameade: how do we plan to handle each rule status for each share? | 15:16 |
| vponomaryov | it can be different for different shares | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | we actually considered a bunch of different options, including some that would have made the whole share access API a lot more complicated, but we settled on this relatively simple extension | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov: not sure what you mean? | 15:17 |
| ameade | the access mappings are separate | 15:17 |
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| ameade | vponomaryov: when you do allow access to a group, it will just traverse every entry in the group and create the share access mapping | 15:18 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: I mean next: one group will be assigned for lots of shares, BUT, now, access rules have status, is it errored or not | 15:19 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: EACH rule or the whole share? | 15:19 |
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| vponomaryov | each rule | 15:19 |
| xyang1 | ameade: when you create an access group, do you expect the entries are already created or do you create the entries with the new group? | 15:19 |
| bswartz | I'm not sure why we need that | 15:19 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: there could be error on rule applying step | 15:20 |
| ameade | xyang1: either, you can create the the group and specify the entries or add and remove entries after you create the group | 15:20 |
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| ameade | vponomaryov: that would show up when you do an access list, but the group itself is not applied to the share, but just a mechanism for applying multiple rules at once | 15:21 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: if manila failed to grant access on a share to an IP, I would expect that IP to get removed from the list | 15:21 |
| ameade | bswartz: i dont like that | 15:21 |
| bswartz | handling failures in this area is certainly a complicated problem | 15:21 |
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| ameade | i view the access group as sort of a template | 15:22 |
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| bswartz | the solution is clear: we have to write software that never fails! | 15:22 |
| deepakcs | so if one IP grant access fails but others succeeed.. does this mean access group as a whole succeeded or failed or sonething in between ? | 15:22 |
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| vponomaryov | we have use case - having unified access group we should know, what rules are apllied without errors for each share | 15:22 |
| ameade | and when you apply a group to a share it means apply every entry in the group individually | 15:22 |
| bswartz | I still think we could have a per-share status which indicated whether ALL the access rules were applied or not, and if not, then some mechanism to see which ones failed | 15:23 |
| ameade | to see what is actually applied to a share and there states you do an access_list | 15:23 |
| bswartz | because as ameade says, with groups the failures get even more subtle | 15:23 |
| ameade | the access group is not 1 to 1 with a share | 15:23 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, A higher level usecase/workflow would have some logical reason on why it grouped a set of IPs .. if one of that failed to apply, won't that workflow and/or usecase fail ? | 15:24 |
| vponomaryov | deepakcs: good point | 15:24 |
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| deepakcs | and if we return success for access_group and ask user to check access_list on what IPs were applied and what not.. how does it help the bigger usecase ? | 15:25 |
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| bswartz | I would expect ANY failure to bubble up to the caller of the API | 15:25 |
| bswartz | the question is what state is the system left in after the failure | 15:25 |
| ameade | how does it currently work when you allow access to just one ip and it fails? | 15:25 |
| bswartz | do we roll back the failed change or just set error flags and require intervention? | 15:26 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: called of API won't get status different from 200 Ok, accepted for stating | 15:26 |
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| bswartz | in the longer term we want to make this feature even more dynamic such that manila detect changes in group memberships outside of manila and applies those to shares automatically | 15:26 |
| vponomaryov | ameade: current rules are 1 to 1 with shares | 15:26 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, you said " I would expect that IP to get removed from the list" - that won't be correct from the end user's perspective as we would break their logical reason of grouping that IP in the first place | 15:26 |
| bswartz | in that case there's no API caller to report the error to | 15:27 |
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| ameade | we are just taking what's there already and allowing it to be maintained in bulk | 15:27 |
| bswartz | I think we will need a way to flag permission setting problems when manila isn't able to enforce the policy the user asked for | 15:27 |
| bswartz | deepakcs: I think you're right I'm withdrawing my earlier statement | 15:28 |
| ameade | vponomaryov: the access group is just a definition of rules, not what is actually applied to a share so the individual rules that get applied will still be 1 to 1 with a share | 15:28 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, thanks :) | 15:28 |
| vponomaryov | ameade: I see, as deepakcs said, should we allow set some rules from provided, if can not do it for all? | 15:29 |
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| ameade | i think that's a good question | 15:29 |
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| deepakcs | ameade, but someone made that as a group for some logical reason.. maybe all sub-depts of a bigger dept , and if one failed, he may or may not want all of that to be applied | 15:30 |
| bswartz | since our model for permissions is GRANT only and there's no way to DENY, I see no danger in applying as many rules as possible | 15:31 |
| ameade | yeah so maybe when you do allow_access and supply a group, if anything in the group fails then we dont do anything in the group | 15:31 |
| bswartz | if some fail, we can continue granting others | 15:31 |
| ameade | bswartz: we could do that, but i think it's more intuitive to the user the other way? | 15:31 |
| ameade | well maybe not | 15:32 |
| deepakcs | ameade, but since we will grant 1 at a time.. if somethign failed at a later point in time.. rolling back is like going to each backende for each IP and asking to deny_access ? | 15:32 |
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| ameade | if a group changes but is already applied to a bunch of shares, but the change failed, then what do you do? | 15:32 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, didn't understand when u say "ther ei sno way to DENY".. remove_access (or whatever its called) is denying access, no ? | 15:32 |
| bswartz | yeah I don't see how we can reasonably roll back | 15:32 |
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| xyang1 | if some succeeded and some failed, what will be the status of the operation? | 15:33 |
| bswartz | it's better to try to make reality match the policy as closely as possible and flag cases where it wasn't perfect | 15:33 |
| ameade | deepakcs: yeah maybe, but that's an implementation detail | 15:33 |
| deepakcs | So can we provide a tunable as part of this API .. where user can specify what behaviour shud be if some grants failed .. ignore it or rollbacl or somethign else ? | 15:33 |
| bswartz | because we want to move to dynamic policies there will always be short windows of time where the actual policy won't match the intended policy | 15:33 |
| cknight1 | deepakcs: seems like a later enhancement | 15:34 |
| ameade | bswartz: +1 | 15:34 |
| ameade | xyang1: i'm not sure there should be a status of teh operation, but moreso which parts succeeded and which parts failed | 15:34 |
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| bswartz | we just need a way to flag to the user when something is out of sync | 15:35 |
| ameade | we should have that regardless of access groups though | 15:35 |
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| bswartz | agreed | 15:36 |
| ameade | iiuc, if I do an allow access to a single ip atm, i have to then access_list to see if it worked | 15:36 |
| bswartz | ameade: do you want to own fixing the way access-grant errors are reported in as part of the access groups work? | 15:36 |
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| ameade | bswartz: heh my gut says no | 15:36 |
| ameade | do you have any ideas on how we can do that? | 15:36 |
| bswartz | lol | 15:36 |
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| ameade | would moving forward hinder us from improving it? | 15:37 |
| bswartz | it just seems like a dependency | 15:37 |
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| bswartz | maybe it isn't | 15:37 |
| bswartz | okay so back to the original proposal | 15:37 |
| bswartz | aside for how we deal with errors, any concerns about the design for groups? | 15:38 |
| ameade | it sounds like we need lots of elaboration in the BP | 15:38 |
| ameade | like a walk through of usecases | 15:38 |
| bswartz | please read the spec/BP if you haven't and offer feedback on the changes when they show up | 15:38 |
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| bswartz | or use the ML to provide feedback if you see problems before the code shows up | 15:38 |
| ameade | folks can ping me on irc if they want to have a conversation as well | 15:39 |
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| bswartz | #topic gate tests | 15:39 |
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| bswartz | hi | 15:40 |
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| bswartz | that was weird my client just vanished | 15:40 |
| scott_da | mine keeps vanishing as well | 15:40 |
| bswartz | I wanted to follow up on what vponomaryov said | 15:41 |
| scott_da | I was cursing my corporate network, but it could be freenode | 15:41 |
| bswartz | no this was definitely my client, not the network | 15:41 |
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| bswartz | our tempest gate tests are currently non-voting | 15:41 |
| bswartz | any reason we can't make them voting? | 15:41 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: I plan make separate devstack votable job | 15:42 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: reason is in a way we use tempest | 15:42 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: is that a lot of work? | 15:42 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: it can become incompatible any moment | 15:42 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: you mean changes in tempest can break us? | 15:42 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: no, but time for merge to infra/config project can vary | 15:43 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: wouldn't we just want to fix those? | 15:43 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: yes, changes in tempest itself | 15:43 |
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| bswartz | how will making the job separate and votable solve this problem? | 15:43 |
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| bswartz | if tempest is going to cause random breakage then I'd rather keep the jobs non-voting until we solve THAT issue | 15:44 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: of course, we can fix it, but it will block other change to get into the master | 15:44 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: votable job is going to be onle devstack without tempest | 15:44 |
| vponomaryov | s/onle/only/ | 15:44 |
| bswartz | ok | 15:44 |
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| bswartz | so you mean we keep the current non-voting jobs and we add yet another one that's expected to be more stable | 15:45 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: yes | 15:45 |
| bswartz | that sounds perfect | 15:45 |
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| vponomaryov | and, also, docs job should be votable too | 15:45 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:45 |
| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:45 |
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| bswartz | okay anything else? | 15:45 |
| vponomaryov | it not now, before related change merged | 15:45 |
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| csaba | we updated the ganesha BP | 15:46 |
| csaba | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/gateway-mediated-with-ganesha | 15:46 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: yeah that sounds reasonble | 15:46 |
| bswartz | csaba: cool | 15:46 |
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| bswartz | csaba: is there are WIP yet we can look at? | 15:47 |
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| csaba | more low-level tech spec will follow first | 15:47 |
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| bswartz | s/are/a/ | 15:48 |
| csaba | I think it's better to write it up first | 15:48 |
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| bswartz | I'm glad you guys have spent so much time looking at this | 15:48 |
| bswartz | do you have POC code or a prototype or something? | 15:48 |
| csaba | not yet | 15:49 |
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| bswartz | it can be hard to see the flaws in a design if there isn't code to look at | 15:49 |
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| csaba | yes that's true | 15:50 |
| bswartz | keep up the good work on this -- the direction seems good | 15:50 |
| csaba | thanks, we are at it | 15:50 |
| bswartz | as with so many other things though, when we actually try to make it work, that's when we might find out the ugly issues | 15:51 |
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| deepakcs | I spent quite a bit of time setting up devstack+Manila on F20.. Hit libguestfs nested KVM bug which i figured out only yest! Bug already filed @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1286256/ | 15:51 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1286256 in nova "If libguestfs hangs when provisioning an instance, nova will wait forever." [Medium,Confirmed] | 15:51 |
| deepakcs | At present, I am able to spawn Nova instances but n/wing is still flaky.. if i remove neutron and switch nova-net.. n/wing works | 15:52 |
| bswartz | csaba: I would encourage you to make WIP submissions available as you go so people can offer early feedback | 15:52 |
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| bswartz | that's all | 15:52 |
| csaba | bswartz: sounds to be a good idea | 15:52 |
| bswartz | deepakcs: what does "nested KVM in an environment where nested KVM support is buggy" mean? | 15:53 |
| deepakcs | I plan to write a document on the setup , once i am able to setup and get Manila genericdriver in devstack on F20, working reliably | 15:53 |
| bswartz | nested KVM works perfectly for me everywhere I've tried it | 15:53 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, I asked that Q in the lp bug.. did u just copy that from there ? | 15:53 |
| bswartz | yes | 15:53 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, I am waiting for the answer too.. but looks like libguestfs + KVM (in nested case) hangs | 15:54 |
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| bswartz | deepakcs: is this a software or hardware problem? | 15:54 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, hence Nova hangs during image resize and instance is stuck in 'spawning' state forever | 15:54 |
| bswartz | I need to read up on this libguestfs thing I suppose | 15:54 |
| bswartz | I've never heard of it before now | 15:54 |
| bswartz | is it related to VirtFS? | 15:54 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, i think its software / KVM issue.. i am not KVM expert so can't be sure.. better to get siubscribed to that bug, i did :) | 15:54 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, no, nothing to do with virtfs | 15:54 |
| bswartz | #link http://libguestfs.org/ | 15:55 |
| bswartz | oh I see what it does | 15:55 |
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| deepakcs | bswartz, So thigns as it stand now.. I am able to get host <-> instnace n/wing working, but accessing internet from instance isn't working on Nova instances | 15:55 |
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| deepakcs | bswartz, I plan to get this working and write a doc and upload on wiki | 15:56 |
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| bswartz | deepakcs: okay so why is libguestfs a dependency for anything we want to do? | 15:56 |
| bswartz | does nova rely on it for anything critical? | 15:56 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, as part of Nova creatign instance, it checks if image can be resized and has partitions... for which it uses libguests and its libs to create a qemu process | 15:57 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: it means nova does not work with enabled neutron on F20 | 15:57 |
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| deepakcs | bswartz, this qemu process hangs and never returns in nested KVM case (which is typicaly for devstack) | 15:57 |
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| bswartz | argh | 15:57 |
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| deepakcs | vponomaryov, its flaky.. it was not workign before.. i switch to nova-network (turned off nuetron) , it worked... but manila needs nuetron.. | 15:58 |
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| bswartz | okay well hopefully we can get these problems sorted out | 15:58 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, I am trying and will document whats the best way to get devstack + manial devpt env for F20 | 15:58 |
| bswartz | thanks for the update deepakcs | 15:58 |
| deepakcs | just hopingi dont get into any more issues :) | 15:58 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, sure | 15:58 |
| bswartz | anything else in our last minute? | 15:58 |
| bswartz | going once... | 15:59 |
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| bswartz | twice.. | 15:59 |
| bswartz | okay thanks everyone | 15:59 |
| vponomaryov | thanks | 15:59 |
| xyang1 | thanks | 15:59 |
| deepakcs | thanks, bywe | 15:59 |
| ameade | bye | 15:59 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 12 15:59:37 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-06-12-15.01.html | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-06-12-15.01.txt | 15:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-06-12-15.01.log.html | 15:59 |
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| mihgen | time for the next meeting | 16:00 |
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| mihgen | Fuelers around? | 16:00 |
| ikalnitsky | hi | 16:00 |
| salmon_ | o/ | 16:00 |
| xarses | hi | 16:00 |
| aviramb | hi | 16:00 |
| * odyssey4me is lurking :) | 16:00 | |
| rmoe | here | 16:00 |
| mihgen | cool | 16:01 |
| mihgen | #startmeeting fuel | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 12 16:01:09 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mihgen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:01 |
| mihgen | hi Fuelers | 16:01 |
| mihgen | #topic Announcements | 16:01 |
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| mihgen | we've released 4.1.1 this week, congratulations to everyone | 16:02 |
| mihgen | many HA fixes were backported | 16:02 |
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| mihgen | due to my long trip I've not set tags in repo yet, but will do soon | 16:02 |
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| mihgen | Folks, I'm still worried about bugs in master | 16:02 |
| mihgen | we need bug squashing day I think | 16:02 |
| mihgen | I propose Tu next week to bring a team together and squash bugs | 16:03 |
| holser | Hi | 16:03 |
| bogdando | hi | 16:03 |
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| mihgen | we have 300 of them with many in non-confirmed/triaged state | 16:03 |
| mihgen | any objections? ideas? | 16:03 |
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| salmon_ | bug squashing day would be nice | 16:04 |
| angdraug | bug squashing day sounds good, as long as it's next week :) | 16:04 |
| sbog | hi all | 16:05 |
| mihgen | cool | 16:05 |
| mihgen | #action mihgen to send an email to ML about bug squashing day on Tu next week | 16:05 |
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| ikalnitsky | after bug squashing day we need a review-day | 16:05 |
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| mihgen | Actually I think we actually need to combine | 16:05 |
| mihgen | ikalnitsky: so I agree | 16:05 |
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| mihgen | and some folks can do bug confirming /triaging | 16:06 |
| mihgen | some will do fixing | 16:06 |
| mihgen | and some - reviews | 16:06 |
| mihgen | I suggest to not invent a wheel here and follow openstack practices - will provide in email, if it doesn't work for us - we will come up with adjustcemements | 16:07 |
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| mihgen | Ok. next topic - let me provide ideas regarding our focus for 5.1 | 16:07 |
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| mihgen | After going through design docs, talking to the team, we have identified how many folks can work full time and how much we can cover | 16:08 |
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| mihgen | obviously not everything as we wish | 16:08 |
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| mihgen | so Fuelers, let's concentrate our efforts on a few essential for 5.1 things, and the rest if possible: | 16:09 |
| mihgen | 1) upgrade 5.0 -> 5.0.1, 5.0.1 -> 5.1; 2) patching of openstack | 16:09 |
| mihgen | 3) authx master node: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/access-control-master-node; 4) ML2 support | 16:09 |
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| mihgen | 5) deploy openstack from master | 16:09 |
| mihgen | these are user-facing things | 16:09 |
| salmon_ | 5? | 16:10 |
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| mihgen | we also have a few essential sustaining things, e.g. fixes to HA | 16:10 |
| mihgen | I've updated blueprints priorities to reflect it - you will see all with essential status | 16:10 |
| angdraug | salmon_: 5 is essential for our ability to have 6.0 with juno code before is release | 16:10 |
| angdraug | before it is released.. | 16:10 |
| salmon_ | ah, master branch | 16:10 |
| salmon_ | ok | 16:10 |
| angdraug | mihgen: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/multiple-cluster-networks ? | 16:11 |
| mihgen | #link https://launchpad.net/fuel/+milestone/5.1 blueprints for 5.1 | 16:11 |
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| mihgen | angdraug: nope, decreased priority | 16:11 |
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| mihgen | reason is simple: let's make Fuel work ideally with <50 nodes first, and multiple cluster network is actually when you care about hundreds | 16:12 |
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| mihgen | or at least > 2 racks of servers | 16:12 |
| mihgen | it is still High priority and intersects with refactoring of nailgun networking stuff I assume | 16:12 |
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| mihgen | any other blueprints I'm missing here which should be essential you think? | 16:13 |
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| xarses | mihgen: we are going to get alot of push back about that, several large groups are very interested | 16:13 |
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| angdraug | zabbix, too | 16:13 |
| rmoe | yes, zabbix | 16:13 |
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| * odyssey4me agrees | 16:13 | |
| angdraug | just like multiple-cluster-networks, it is almost ready for merge | 16:14 |
| mihgen | xarses: I understand. but do you agree that it's after those 5 at least? | 16:14 |
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| xarses | mihgen: it could be #6, ya | 16:14 |
| angdraug | priority wise, yes, but each of those 5 is a big and disruptive piece of work | 16:14 |
| mihgen | rmoe: angdraug: zabbix is High. My expectation that we will make it in experimental mode first. It's literally almost ready for merge | 16:14 |
| odyssey4me | is #3 such a high priority? | 16:14 |
| mihgen | angdraug: if multiple-cluster-networks are almost ready, I've nothing against. However, remember that for production readiness we need to add many things to it, like acceptance testing (automated with devops), docs, etc. | 16:15 |
| angdraug | odyssey4me: it's security. should be #1 except #1 and #2 are things that were on the top of our priorities for 3 releases now | 16:16 |
| mihgen | we need that code anyway, but we can skip claiming it as a feature for now | 16:16 |
| angdraug | experimental mode it is :) | 16:16 |
| mihgen | angdraug: odyssey4me: yep, security.. | 16:16 |
| rmoe | for multiple-cluster-networks there are also more changes beyond what's in the first review | 16:16 |
| mihgen | actually users keep complaining it's insecure | 16:16 |
| mihgen | however you can always workaround by placing master node in separate L2 | 16:17 |
| mihgen | but looks like it's time to finally fix it.. | 16:17 |
| odyssey4me | alright - it's simple enough to manage in other ways, but I do acknowledge that it's a good to-do... I'm only questioning whether it's essential to push for it this release. | 16:18 |
| mihgen | The thing is that 3) authx requires us not only put authx in place, but also fix all iptables rules, etc., to securing everything | 16:18 |
| odyssey4me | yup - it's a big, big job when you go beyond just putting some sort of auth in place | 16:18 |
| mihgen | so we will need to put deployment engineers to fix it, and additional python resources perhaps | 16:18 |
| mihgen | salmon_: so actually we would need to execute stage #3 & 4 from your design in 5.1, do you think it's possible to parallelize? | 16:19 |
| mihgen | if add resources there? | 16:19 |
| salmon_ | mihgen: 4) ML2 support ? | 16:20 |
| salmon_ | grr, stae 3 & 4? | 16:20 |
| mihgen | salmon_: nope, I'm about authx | 16:20 |
| salmon_ | don't think so. There are some open questions there | 16:20 |
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| mihgen | salmon_: ok. will need to discuss then... | 16:21 |
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| mihgen | #action mihgen to request details on whether we could parallelize the work on authx and complete it fully in 5.1 | 16:21 |
| salmon_ | mihgen: stage 4 is about LDAP, many users groups... Why do we need yhis now? | 16:21 |
| xarses | salmon_: neutron ml3 plugin | 16:22 |
| mihgen | salmon_: I don't think we need LDAP in 5.1 | 16:22 |
| mihgen | I'll review you it once again | 16:22 |
| salmon_ | mihgen: ok | 16:22 |
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| mihgen | Ok fuelers let's get a status on essential blueprints in the first order | 16:23 |
| mihgen | 1) upgrade of Fuel 5.0 -> 5.0.1 | 16:23 |
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| mihgen | eveniyl is in charge, but it's holiday | 16:23 |
| mihgen | ikalnitsky: do you know anything about it by any chance? | 16:24 |
| ikalnitsky | as far as i know, it almost done. in last few days evgeniyl just changed some parts in more convenient way | 16:24 |
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| ikalnitsky | i even had a successful upgrade from 5.0 to 5.0.1 | 16:25 |
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| mihgen | #topic upgrade of Fuel feature status | 16:25 |
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| mihgen | ikalnitsky: cool. Do you know about QA automation for it? | 16:25 |
| mihgen | anyone from QA team here? | 16:26 |
| ikalnitsky | unfortunately, i know nothing about qa | 16:26 |
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| mihgen | ok, thanks for what you know. Let's move on | 16:27 |
| mihgen | #topic Patching of OpenStack feature status | 16:27 |
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| mihgen | ikalnitsky: back to you again ) | 16:27 |
| ikalnitsky | today i have finally run the tarball with upgrades to patch openstack and it was done successfully. | 16:28 |
| ikalnitsky | unfortunately, i've met some problems | 16:28 |
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| ikalnitsky | afaik, some of them are known and will be fixed by library team. | 16:28 |
| mihgen | ikalnitsky: sounds that it is very close to be fully ready | 16:28 |
| ikalnitsky | some of them, i'll fix tomorrow | 16:28 |
| mihgen | do you see any risks to complete it in time ensuring a great quality? | 16:29 |
| mihgen | we can't break users workloads.. otherwise they will hate us forever ) | 16:29 |
| ikalnitsky | for now, i don't see such things. | 16:29 |
| ikalnitsky | there's a one thing with rollbacking patch | 16:29 |
| ikalnitsky | i need to discuss it with Dmitry I. | 16:29 |
| ikalnitsky | there's a manifest and i don't know who have to generate it | 16:30 |
| ikalnitsky | that's all | 16:30 |
| mihgen | ok. sounds like a missing piece in design. dilyin is on holiday.. | 16:30 |
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| mihgen | ikalnitsky: > run the tarball with upgrades to patch openstack and it was done successfully - did you run upgrade tarball to get patching done? | 16:31 |
| mihgen | can you please clarify | 16:31 |
| mihgen | my expectation is that you run tarball to upgrade / add new release info | 16:31 |
| mihgen | and then you run patching from Fuel UI | 16:31 |
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| mihgen | like you have existing env, and on Actions tab you choose what version of OpenStack you would like to update it to | 16:32 |
| ikalnitsky | yeah, sure. but this tarball has additional stuff: puppet manifests/modules, repos and so one. this stuff have to be installed. | 16:32 |
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| mihgen | ikalnitsky: yep, that's my understanding. Very well, thanks. | 16:33 |
| ikalnitsky | i mean that i've finally install this stuff with some fixes and run upgrade from ui | 16:33 |
| mihgen | what about system tests for this? | 16:33 |
| mihgen | cool | 16:33 |
| ikalnitsky | i didn't run it yet | 16:33 |
| xarses | ikalnitsky: do we only have new puppet because we don't have puppet upstream yet? | 16:33 |
| mihgen | who is assigned to do QA of design /implementation? | 16:33 |
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| xarses | ie if we have puppet upstream, do you need it in the tar? | 16:34 |
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| mihgen | Tatyana is QA but looks like she is not here | 16:34 |
| holser | good question … | 16:34 |
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| ikalnitsky | xarses: i'm not sure, but as far as i know we need it in tarball to make different upgrades. for example: 5.1 -> 6.0 or 5.1 -> 5.2 | 16:35 |
| ykotko | Tatyana or Andrey (who is not here too) | 16:35 |
| mihgen | ykotko: thanks | 16:35 |
| mihgen | hmm I don't quite follow the question about puppet | 16:35 |
| mihgen | xarses: do we have it in upgrade package always, is that what you mean? | 16:36 |
| xarses | i thought we where talking about patching openstack | 16:36 |
| mihgen | xarses: yes, we are | 16:36 |
| xarses | didn't think we needed alot of manifest around it | 16:36 |
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| alex_didenko | xarses: we may need them | 16:37 |
| mihgen | the thing is that we need to upgrade Fuel first to introduce packages | 16:37 |
| alex_didenko | so we need to be prepared | 16:37 |
| mihgen | and possilby manifests | 16:37 |
| xarses | I only thought it would be needed more when we upgrade fuel version | 16:37 |
| mihgen | to make patching | 16:37 |
| xarses | mihgen: ya, i figured that out | 16:37 |
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| mihgen | ok folks let's get details in #fuel-dev, we need to move on now, ikalnitsky - thanks for status, looks like we are in good shape | 16:38 |
| mihgen | the only thing unclear to me is QA, but I'll figure it out | 16:38 |
| mihgen | #topic Securing Fuel master node, authentication for UI and REST API | 16:39 |
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| mihgen | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/access-control-master-node | 16:39 |
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| salmon_ | there is still some disqusion about blueprint, but in the meantime I'm working on installing/using keystone. Vitaly prepared GUI part, Matt prepared code for integration with fuelmenu. Stage I should be ready soon. | 16:39 |
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| mihgen | salmon_: very good. I'll provide my answers regarding stage 3/4 soon | 16:40 |
| mihgen | any risk items? | 16:40 |
| salmon_ | mihgen: for now I don't see any | 16:41 |
| mihgen | ok, thanks | 16:41 |
| mihgen | #topic ML2 support in Neutron | 16:41 |
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| xarses | research into ml2 plugin is done, design doc is nearly done (today), started sorting out differences between upstream puppet module https://github.com/xarses/puppet-neutron/compare/fuel-neutron?expand=1 | 16:41 |
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| mihgen | xarses: cool. Where is the design doc? | 16:42 |
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| mihgen | omg diff is huge | 16:42 |
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| xarses | it will get smaller still | 16:42 |
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| xarses | but it was twice as big | 16:42 |
| holser | xarses, We have task to update our manifests to upstream so it’s related to ml2 too | 16:42 |
| mihgen | ok.. how risky do you think to play this game with syncing upstream manifests? | 16:43 |
| mihgen | holser: my expectation is that xarses is actually doing exactly this | 16:43 |
| holser | I see | 16:43 |
| mihgen | syncing upstream neutron to get upstream ml2 support | 16:43 |
| angdraug | mihgen: holser: yes, that's what he's doing | 16:43 |
| mihgen | and fix remaining issues | 16:43 |
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| xarses | looking at it, most of our changes are deprecated, the only main risk i think is with keeping HA support | 16:43 |
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| mihgen | xarses: whoops.. we need to start thinking about it in parallel. Did you talk to xenolog about it? | 16:44 |
| mihgen | just static analysis of code might help .. | 16:44 |
| xarses | I was speaking with puppet-openstack folks yesterday, and we agree that it should probably be in an outside wrapper module. I also found out that we don't need to use pacemaker for DHCP-agent HA | 16:44 |
| xarses | holser: yes, pulling upstream module is the goal | 16:45 |
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| xarses | mihgen: no, I'll start now that the design doc is mostly done | 16:46 |
| mihgen | xarses: ok. please sync with xenolog on regular basis.. dhcp agent ha might be there for a reason. all this ha stuff is always tricky | 16:46 |
| mihgen | Ok thanks for status. Looking forward to see it in action.. | 16:46 |
| mihgen | moving on | 16:46 |
| xarses | mihgen: we don't need to do it with pacemaker since grizzly, dhcp-agent is internally HA ready | 16:46 |
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| mihgen | xarses: hmm ok. I trust you guys in such details :) | 16:47 |
| mihgen | #topic deploy openstack from master | 16:47 |
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| mihgen | rvyalov is in charge, he is holiday though | 16:47 |
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| mihgen | I know a bit about it. the idea is to modify our build system so the Fuel should be able to build openstack packages on the fly | 16:48 |
| mihgen | using our spec files and upstream openstack code | 16:48 |
| mihgen | so it's slow progressing, gerrit / CI for it are still in design phase I believe | 16:48 |
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| mihgen | moving on | 16:49 |
| brain461 | mihgen: I'm working on this feature. It's still on the PoC stage, I plan to get PoC working tomorrow | 16:49 |
| mihgen | oh dude that's cool | 16:49 |
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| mihgen | brain461: sorry actually you are assignee for that blueprint | 16:49 |
| brain461 | yep | 16:50 |
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| mihgen | brain461: very good. We really need this feature for our community presence and for full CI/CD with openstack upstream | 16:50 |
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| mihgen | brain461: I hope you guys gonna use Infra's stuff to get gerrit up and running for it | 16:50 |
| mihgen | ok, moving on, not much time left.. | 16:51 |
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| mihgen | #topic Galera HA and other HA improvements | 16:51 |
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| mihgen | holser: can you provide the status pls | 16:51 |
| mihgen | Galera HA improvements I meant :) | 16:51 |
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| holser | We had meetings regarding Rabbit so I was helping bogdando | 16:52 |
| holser | Galera is still in progress, thinking to finish it by end of week and commit | 16:52 |
| holser | also it requires cs_shadow removal | 16:53 |
| mihgen | good. Will it fix the issue of rebuild in case of power outage of whole cluster? | 16:53 |
| holser | didn’t have chance to talk to Dmitry Illyn regarding that | 16:53 |
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| holser | I ripped out all cs_shadow for now | 16:54 |
| holser | to be able to test Galera | 16:54 |
| mihgen | holser: ok, please do.. power outage may happen in small installs.. | 16:54 |
| holser | k | 16:54 |
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| holser | that’s all from me | 16:54 |
| mihgen | ok thanks. moving on | 16:55 |
| mihgen | #topic Mellanox features support | 16:55 |
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| mihgen | do we have anyone from Mellanox around? | 16:55 |
| aviramb | yes | 16:55 |
| mihgen | aviramb: hi, can you provide a short update on where we are ? | 16:55 |
| mihgen | did you get reviews for design doc? | 16:56 |
| aviramb | mihgen: yes thanks | 16:56 |
| aviramb | mihgen: any more reviewers are welcome | 16:56 |
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| mihgen | yep, I think we need to get someone with networking background.. | 16:56 |
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| xarses | aviramb: looks nice | 16:56 |
| mihgen | besides reviews, what are the next steps now? | 16:57 |
| aviramb | mihgen: that would be great, we are at the end of our POC based on the master and ML2 plugin (manually) | 16:57 |
| xarses | I was confused, do you need neutron ML2 plugin. the title implies you do | 16:57 |
| xarses | ahh ok | 16:57 |
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| mihgen | ok that was my question too | 16:57 |
| aviramb | mihgen: next steps - finish automating drivers installation (made custom small package of MLNX_OFED) | 16:57 |
| xarses | mihgen: there is a 4.1 iso with it | 16:57 |
| mihgen | actually we need to mark blueprint then as dependent on ml2 | 16:58 |
| aviramb | mihgen: and integrate to fuel-library | 16:58 |
| xarses | and a nice write up | 16:58 |
| aviramb | mihgen: yes | 16:58 |
| mihgen | aviramb: will it require any nailgun/UI changes? | 16:58 |
| xarses | #link http://community.mellanox.com/docs/DOC-1449?et=watches.email.document | 16:58 |
| aviramb | mihgen: yes, new section for installing mellanox SRIOV plugin or just drivers | 16:58 |
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| aviramb | mihgen: and iSER support (iSCSI over RDMA) | 16:59 |
| mihgen | need to wrap up the meeting.. I have a few more questions but will add them in the design doc then | 16:59 |
| aviramb | mihgen: checkbox, near iSCSI (in storage section) | 16:59 |
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| mihgen | aviramb: ok, I see. Thanks for the status | 16:59 |
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| mihgen | folks as usual any unaddressed things can be continued in #fuel-dev | 17:00 |
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| mihgen | thanks everyone for participation! | 17:00 |
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| mihgen | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 12 17:00:18 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2014/fuel.2014-06-12-16.01.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2014/fuel.2014-06-12-16.01.txt | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2014/fuel.2014-06-12-16.01.log.html | 17:00 |
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| hyakuhei | Are we good to start the meeting? | 17:02 |
| tmcpeak | yep! | 17:02 |
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| hyakuhei | #startmeeting openstack security group | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 12 17:02:20 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hyakuhei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_security_group' | 17:02 |
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| hyakuhei | So congratulations to everyone who remembered the new time and place! | 17:02 |
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| nkinder | hi all | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | and many thanks to bdpayne for stepping in to take the meeting last week | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | Roll Call! | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | o/ | 17:02 |
| * tmcpeak Travis McPeak | 17:03 | |
| bdpayne | o/ | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | Small crowd :P | 17:03 |
| nkinder | o/ | 17:03 |
| tmcpeak | what's o/ | 17:03 |
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| bdpayne | (waving hand) | 17:03 |
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| bdpayne | (or raising hand) | 17:03 |
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| hyakuhei | It’s what all the cool kids do | 17:03 |
| tmcpeak | ahh | 17:03 |
| tmcpeak | now I know ;) | 17:03 |
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| tkelsey | Hello | 17:03 |
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| hyakuhei | Welcome tkelsey ! | 17:04 |
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| tkelsey | hyakuhei: thanks | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | So as a reminder, we have a whole hour put aside but we’ll give time back if we can | 17:04 |
| CristianF | Hi everyone | 17:04 |
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| hyakuhei | I’d like to speak to threat analysis and to the OSSG meetup - other topics for dicussion? | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | *discussion | 17:05 |
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| * hyakuhei can’t write so gud. | 17:05 | |
| chair6 | 'ello | 17:05 |
| nkinder | We can talk about current OSSNs | 17:05 |
| bdpayne | I don't have anything else to add to the agenda | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | We most certainly can ! | 17:05 |
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| tmcpeak | I have one topic | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | which is? | 17:05 |
| tmcpeak | about maybe getting a blueprint going for this gating addition for security | 17:05 |
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| hyakuhei | Great | 17:06 |
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| hyakuhei | Lets start with OSSNs and we’ll come around to gating | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak | sounds good | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | #topic OpenStack Security Notes | 17:06 |
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| hyakuhei | Go ahead nkinder | 17:06 |
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| nkinder | We have one OSSN our for review right now that tmcpeak has been working on | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | 0017 iirc. | 17:07 |
| nkinder | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99420/ | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | Very close to being ready. | 17:07 |
| nkinder | So reviews of it would be appreciated | 17:07 |
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| bdpayne | ahh, sounds good | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, definitely appreciate feedback | 17:07 |
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| nkinder | There are two that haven't been picked up yet - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn/ | 17:07 |
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| nkinder | I'm planning on picking one up tomorrow if nobody grabs them | 17:08 |
| dg_ | sorry I'm late people | 17:08 |
| hyakuhei | nkinder: I think Stan from my team wants to pick one up | 17:08 |
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| nkinder | hyakuhei: ok, any preference on which one? | 17:08 |
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| hyakuhei | I’m not sure, he should be along here shortly. | 17:08 |
| nkinder | ok. | 17:08 |
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| nkinder | So I also sent out a revised OSSN for 0013 this week | 17:09 |
| hyakuhei | Thanks for doing that nkinder | 17:09 |
| nkinder | That was our first time revising an existing note | 17:09 |
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| nkinder | From a process standpoint, I felt that it was ideal to point out that it was a revision on the mailing list | 17:09 |
| hyakuhei | I think it went as well as you could expect, didn’t see any complaints | 17:09 |
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| tmcpeak | why did that one have to change again? | 17:10 |
| nkinder | I did that by replying to the original OSSN thread and putting "***revision***" in the subject. | 17:10 |
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| tmcpeak | I vaguely remember something about it but I was brand new at that point | 17:10 |
| nkinder | Does that seem like enough to call out the revision to everyone? | 17:10 |
| nkinder | tmcpeak: the workaround didnt work | 17:10 |
| tmcpeak | ahh | 17:10 |
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| hyakuhei | tmcpeak: The sample code that we brought over from the LP bug wasn’t tested and it wasn’t correct. | 17:10 |
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| hyakuhei | Lessons were learned :) | 17:10 |
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| nkinder | :) | 17:11 |
| tmcpeak | excellent | 17:11 |
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| nkinder | So that's it on OSSNs, though I'd like to continue on publishing automation at the mid-cycle | 17:11 |
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| hyakuhei | nkinder: great stuff. | 17:11 |
| nkinder | It's been falling off of my todo list | 17:11 |
| tmcpeak | sounds good | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | viraptor_: will be helping with an OSSN, maybe you and nkinder can work out which ones to take? | 17:12 |
| viraptor_ | sure, I'll reach out after the meeting | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | tmcpeak: Thank you for the work you’ve done on 0017 - OSSNs are a really nice way we can gain recognition in the community | 17:12 |
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| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: sure, yeah I had fun with it | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Gate tests | 17:13 |
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| tmcpeak | it's cool to dive into a bug and do some testing | 17:13 |
| bdpayne | tmcpeak I've asked Paul McMillian to help review OSSN 0017 | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | tmcpeak: you’re up :) | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | bdpayne: cool, thank you | 17:13 |
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| tmcpeak | ok | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | so for gate testing | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | I'd like to clear all hurdles that we might face ahead of time with getting some automated security checking into the gerrit process | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | but I'm still pretty new, so I'm not sure what those hurdles might be | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | +1 I think we need someone to have gone through the process before the group meetup | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | I talked to my manager and he suggested I might be able to get some more legitimacy for the idea by putting up a blueprint | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | I’m not sure that individual gate tests need their own BPs ? | 17:14 |
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| hyakuhei | Though I have no specifc objection | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | no, not individual gate tests, the whole security gate testing, flag for review concept as a whole | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | one blueprint for automated checking of some instant-security fails, or red flags | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | Ah ok, yes I can see obvious value in that | 17:15 |
| bdpayne | we should do a very easy / non-contriversial test change | 17:15 |
| bdpayne | and just push that through the system | 17:15 |
| nkinder | I think we need non-voting gate tests first | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | +1 | 17:15 |
| nkinder | bdpayne: +1 | 17:15 |
| bdpayne | there was some talk of negative testing at the summit | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | Pathfinding is useful | 17:15 |
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| tmcpeak | it could be as simple as just, when those things come up, automatically request a security reviewer to be added | 17:15 |
| bdpayne | I think that this will be well received | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | The most simple thing to flag on is probably shell=True | 17:15 |
| chair6 | as long as we're very careful about false positives | 17:16 |
| bdpayne | for the first change, I'd suggest something that doesn't link in a human, but instead flags some simple issue(s) | 17:16 |
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| tmcpeak | yeah, false positives would be the biggest concern | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | I think all tests should be info-only, I don’t think we should have -1’s flying around until we’re very confident about detection | 17:16 |
| bdpayne | chair6 yes, very true | 17:16 |
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| tkelsey | hyakuhei: +1 yes, dry run it, as it were | 17:16 |
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| tmcpeak | what about just recommending adding some reviewers, is that possible? | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | So it’ll be publishing a review to gerrit | 17:17 |
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| hyakuhei | You can put whatever you want in the review | 17:17 |
| hyakuhei | recommend people etc | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | ok cool | 17:17 |
| nkinder | tmcpeak: you mean security team reviewers? That was something we discussed at the summit. | 17:17 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah so that’s slightly separate, I’ll speak to the security reviewers thing in a minute perhaps ? | 17:17 |
| nkinder | we talked about adding a group as reviewers | 17:17 |
| nkinder | yes, it seems separate from gate tests to me too | 17:17 |
| hyakuhei | ok cool. | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | my thought was just that when something is detected in automation, it recommends adding a security reviewer | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | but yeah, maybe these are two separate issues | 17:18 |
| hyakuhei | So, tmcpeak what do you need help with to move this forward? | 17:18 |
| nkinder | let's define gate tests first | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | ok cool | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | so do you think the blueprint would help with this? | 17:18 |
| hyakuhei | There are a number of basic ones outlined in the meetup etherpad | 17:18 |
| nkinder | it sounds like most of the discussion above is around static analysis (anti-patterns, etc.) | 17:18 |
| hyakuhei | tmcpeak: yes | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | I agree with whoever said that we should start with just the most basic one | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | that is least likely to fail | 17:18 |
| dg_ | tmcpeak good thinking to add a security reviewer if a gate test is failed, easy way of dealing with false positives | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | and see if we can get that going first | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | then add others | 17:18 |
| hyakuhei | nkinder: there are some specific gate tests on the etherpad iirc | 17:18 |
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| hyakuhei | static analysis etc is more an infra/build hook shindig | 17:19 |
| dg_ | hyakuhei got a link? | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ossg-juno-meetup | 17:19 |
| dg_ | merci | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | so maybe if anybody has any ideas for the best way to get this going, HMU on IRC, or email me, or I can post a topic on the mailing list about how to get it going | 17:19 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: those are largely all static checks though | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | I just don't have a good enough feel for the community yet for the best way to proceed | 17:20 |
| nkinder | the one exception is the permissions issue maybe (depending on how we check it) | 17:20 |
| nkinder | If we want to add security gate tests, we should keep a narrow focus and do one thing well as a start | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | aren't we talking about doing static tests though? | 17:21 |
| bdpayne | tmcpeak I'd look at the commit history for tempest to see what it looks like to add new tests https://github.com/openstack/tempest/commits/master | 17:21 |
| hyakuhei | viraptor_: Do you think you could help tmcpeak through the blueprint process ? | 17:21 |
| bdpayne | and then work from there | 17:21 |
| hyakuhei | bdpayne: great idea | 17:21 |
| nkinder | I'm pretty interested in things like fuzzing and tempest tests | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | bdpayne: +1 | 17:21 |
| nkinder | static is good too, but has a lot of potential for false positives | 17:21 |
| hyakuhei | nkinder: +1 but they’re different to gate tests I think | 17:21 |
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| viraptor_ | hyakuhei: sure | 17:21 |
| hyakuhei | nkinder: Agreed, but that’s why the anticipation is they’re info only | 17:21 |
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| hyakuhei | Hey - you appear to have done $_stupid thing. Read about $_stupid thing here <> and consider making changes and considering this issue during review. | 17:22 |
| hyakuhei | etc | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: yeah, that's along the lines of what I'm thinking | 17:22 |
| nkinder | "gate tests" is overloaded, and fuzzing could be done as a gate job. | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: also consider having nkinder look at <stupid thing> | 17:22 |
| hyakuhei | nkinder: Sure, but lets walk before we can run | 17:23 |
| nkinder | Static is fine, but let's spell out that we're talking about static analysis only right now | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | Except you’re overloading the term static-analysis :) | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | We’re basically talking about grep/pattern matching here. | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | SA is _far_ more involved | 17:23 |
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| hyakuhei | Which may be where some of the confusion is coming from | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | I think let's start with one super basic automated pattern matching type test | 17:23 |
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| nkinder | code analysis vs. run-time | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | Shell=true, or something | 17:24 |
| viraptor_ | well, the checks listed so far sound very much like the flake/hacking checks - those provide a framework for this kind of work already | 17:24 |
| bdpayne | yeah, this can get out of control quickly | 17:24 |
| bdpayne | start simple | 17:24 |
| hyakuhei | SA always involves intermediate flow modelling, we are just talking about matching paterns etc | 17:24 |
| viraptor_ | it would be great to just keep them separate even if we're using the same mechanism though | 17:24 |
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| tmcpeak | also I had another plan to look for new usages of crypto | 17:25 |
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| tmcpeak | whenever somebody is checking in something that uses any crypto library that wasn't used before, add a security reviewer on it | 17:25 |
| tmcpeak | I don't know how that fits in to this | 17:25 |
| hyakuhei | Ok great, so as a first step, viraptor_ and tmcpeak will look at how to get a basic warning-producing gate test written up and blueprinted? | 17:25 |
| nkinder | viraptor_: it does map to flake/hacking pretty well | 17:25 |
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| hyakuhei | tmcpeak: wow, I think that’d blow up pretty fast lol | 17:25 |
| hyakuhei | Did anyone see the related thread with noloader and others? | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | hopefully people aren't just willy-nilly adding crypto usages all over the place | 17:26 |
| hyakuhei | Bascially trying to push for a central crypto implementation in oslo and getting people to use that | 17:26 |
| hyakuhei | then detecting divergence is easy | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | oh yeah | 17:26 |
| viraptor_ | grep ECB -> -1 :) | 17:26 |
| hyakuhei | obvious applications for everyone’s friendly pyca cryptography library there | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | ok, so yeah, I'll work with viraptor_ to look into getting a simple blueprint set up to have the most basic security gate test | 17:27 |
| hyakuhei | #action viraptor_ and tmcpeak to come up with a basic blueprint for security gate jobs, likely to be info-only to start with and applying only the most basic of tests. | 17:27 |
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| tmcpeak | cool | 17:27 |
| hyakuhei | nkinder: does this sit ok with you? We can add smarter tests where appropriate | 17:28 |
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| nkinder | Yeah, absolutely. I just wanted to define simple goals to start with. | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak | +1 | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | Great, I think we’re all aligned then | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | #topic OSSG Meetup | 17:28 |
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| bdpayne | FYI... I need to run for another meeting. I know I own a few sentences about the book effort at the mid-summer meetup. Beyond that just let me know if there's things I need to do. I'll check the meeting minutes later. | 17:29 |
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| tmcpeak | sounds good | 17:29 |
| hyakuhei | Thanks bdpayne | 17:29 |
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| hyakuhei | Ok, a few people have suggested things on the meetup etherpad. Which is great but I need those leading them to add a line describing what they want to achieve so we can sort out the scheduling | 17:30 |
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| nkinder | hyakuhei: on my list for today | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | nkinder shohel__ I’m looking at you guys :P | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | Wonderful! | 17:30 |
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| hyakuhei | We had said 3-4 days for this, I’m thinking a solid 4 so people can travel home on the friday and this thing doesn’t eat into two weekends, that ok with people? | 17:31 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: yeah, I'd rather not travel on 2 weekends | 17:31 |
| dg_ | +1 | 17:31 |
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| hyakuhei | +++1 | 17:32 |
| nkinder | 4 solid is good with me (M-Th maybe)? | 17:32 |
| shohel__ | I will add some text and what we want to achieve there | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | +1 | 17:32 |
| hyakuhei | ok great Monday->Thursday [full days] it is. | 17:32 |
| hyakuhei | Thanks shohel__ | 17:32 |
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| dg_ | hyakuhei can we not check in for 9 nights this time... | 17:32 |
| hyakuhei | Ok, earlier today I sent a call-to-arms regarding Threat Analysis on -dev | 17:32 |
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| nkinder | hyakuhei: what about hotel info? | 17:33 |
| hyakuhei | I’d appreciate it if you guys could comment/+1 to show some cross organisational love on the ML | 17:33 |
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| hyakuhei | nkinder: You should probably stay in one. | 17:33 |
| shohel__ | thanks Rob | 17:33 |
| nkinder | ok, no cardboard box | 17:33 |
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| hyakuhei | I’ll send some links to decent hotels in the area, I’ll likely be at the Westin | 17:33 |
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| hyakuhei | It’s walking distance from $stuff and not overly expensive | 17:33 |
| nkinder | is there an HP rate or anything there? | 17:33 |
| hyakuhei | We do get a corporate rate, I’ll find out if we can extend the rate to other guests, I’m not 100% sure | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | http://www.westinseattle.com/ | 17:34 |
| chair6 | just say you're from microsoft.. :) | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | It’s a bit dated but I’m a creature of habit, lots of great hotels around there. | 17:34 |
| chair6 | they get discounts everywhere in this neck of the woods | 17:34 |
| tmcpeak | chair6: +1 | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | chair6 is your local guide to seattle fyi | 17:35 |
| nkinder | chair6: yeah, I contemplated that ;) | 17:35 |
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| hyakuhei | Ok | 17:35 |
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| hyakuhei | so shohel__ I know you’ve done a bunch of work on the TA stuff, how do you see the time we’re going to spend on it during the meetup getting used? | 17:35 |
| hyakuhei | dg_: You might have some thoughts here too | 17:35 |
| shohel__ | i think 1 - 2 days | 17:36 |
| shohel__ | full | 17:36 |
| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: I'm eager to get involved with that TA work | 17:36 |
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| hyakuhei | shohel__: Will this be about the process or test driving the existing process? | 17:36 |
| tmcpeak | I guess that brings up a point, are we splitting up into separate sessions, or all involved in one? | 17:37 |
| shohel__ | i think the process would be simple... | 17:37 |
| shohel__ | or less time consumig | 17:37 |
| hyakuhei | For my part I’d like to see the process adding in some more repeatability steps and formalising a few more bits | 17:37 |
| hyakuhei | Things like STRIDE/DREAD - or their alternatives applied to each interconnect etc. | 17:37 |
| shohel__ | Giving background and analysis would take time | 17:37 |
| hyakuhei | Yup | 17:37 |
| shohel__ | for Keystone | 17:37 |
| shohel__ | yes, we will follow STRIDE | 17:38 |
| hyakuhei | tmcpeak: I’ve asked for a main room and a smaller room | 17:38 |
| shohel__ | if everyone agrees | 17:38 |
| hyakuhei | shohel__: If they dont I’ll beat them. | 17:38 |
| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: sounds good | 17:38 |
| hyakuhei | I have the bat picked out | 17:38 |
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| hyakuhei | Ok great, so book stuff is important but bdpayne is afk. | 17:38 |
| hyakuhei | Fuzzing is interesting but sriram is afk | 17:38 |
| CristianF | shohel: +1 | 17:39 |
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| shohel__ | multiple rooms good idea, so multiple session go together | 17:39 |
| nkinder | yeah, I can see breakouts for hacking on stuff | 17:39 |
| hyakuhei | I think Malini wanted to lead the Anti-Pattern stuff | 17:39 |
| hyakuhei | The Seattle office is dotted with various breakout rooms that will probably be available too | 17:39 |
| hyakuhei | I need to work out some of those details still | 17:39 |
| dg_ | hyakuhei sorry was afk, am very interested in the TA stuff | 17:40 |
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| hyakuhei | nkinder: can you talk about the baseline security review? | 17:40 |
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| nkinder | hyakuhei: sure. This is the effort I started here - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security/Juno | 17:40 |
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| hyakuhei | What would be the goal of working on this during the meetup ? | 17:41 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: It's reviewing project code to identify used crypto, sensitive data handling, and other security info gathering | 17:41 |
| hyakuhei | So its an eyes-on-code affair? | 17:41 |
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| tmcpeak | oh yeah, I'm working on that for Glance | 17:42 |
| hyakuhei | Or a building tooling to identify this stuff? | 17:42 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: I'd like to discuss more about other types of info that should be covered, where the info should really live, and how to make it consumable | 17:42 |
| nkinder | tooling is one part (and tmcpeak started on some of that) | 17:42 |
| nkinder | but also trying to go through some analysis together or get folks started | 17:42 |
| hyakuhei | Ok that makes sense, would this be a better thing to discuss on-list or in person (i.e do you want to get some prep in first) ? | 17:42 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, having worked on it, I can attest that tooling would really help | 17:42 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: I think in-person would be ideal, though there are plenty of pointers I can send on list | 17:43 |
| hyakuhei | Great stuff :D | 17:43 |
| tmcpeak | nkinder: if you would like any help prepping for that, let me know | 17:43 |
| hyakuhei | #topic General / Any other business / Gripes | 17:43 |
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| nkinder | gripes about anything? :) | 17:44 |
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| tmcpeak | the rent is too damn high | 17:44 |
| hyakuhei | I’d like it if we had lots of OSSG branded talks at the summit, that is to say, lots of people driving these security initiatives into the general OpenStack conciousness. | 17:44 |
| nkinder | 24 hour days are not enough | 17:44 |
| hyakuhei | +1 | 17:44 |
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| hyakuhei | Well I think we are done | 17:45 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: yes, increased exposure would be good | 17:45 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: that might be a great topic for the mid-cycle | 17:45 |
| nkinder | brainstorming talks | 17:45 |
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| nkinder | ...for the 'K' summit | 17:45 |
| hyakuhei | +1 | 17:46 |
| dg_ | is the meetup after the submission date for paris then? | 17:46 |
| hyakuhei | It will be during the CFP | 17:47 |
| tmcpeak | perfect | 17:47 |
| tmcpeak | maybe we can have a submit CFP hackathon ;) | 17:48 |
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| hyakuhei | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ossg-juno-meetup updated | 17:48 |
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| hyakuhei | Ok, any final things before we wrap up? | 17:48 |
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| hyakuhei | Thank you everyone for a useful meeting, really looking forward to the meet up | 17:49 |
| hyakuhei | #endmeeting | 17:49 |
| nkinder | thanks all! | 17:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 12 17:49:20 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-06-12-17.02.html | 17:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-06-12-17.02.txt | 17:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-06-12-17.02.log.html | 17:49 |
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| tmcpeak | thanks | 17:49 |
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| nikhil___ | o/ | 20:00 |
| markwash | o/ | 20:00 |
| nikhil___ | hemanth_: rosmaita ^ | 20:00 |
| arnaud__ | o/ | 20:01 |
| markwash | come gather 'round, glancelings | 20:01 |
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| markwash | #startmeeting glance | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 12 20:01:29 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markwash. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 20:01 |
| esheffield | o/ | 20:01 |
| markwash | First item on the agenda today is trying to pick a time for the mid cycle meetup | 20:02 |
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| markwash | are there any issues with the 24th and 25th of July for folks present? | 20:03 |
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| markwash | arnaud__: ^^ | 20:03 |
| arnaud__ | :) | 20:03 |
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| arnaud__ | a sec | 20:03 |
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| arnaud__ | seems good | 20:04 |
| jcook | I have vacation then | 20:04 |
| jcook | ends the 27th | 20:05 |
| nikhil___ | markwash: a sec, we'r are doing a quick co-ordination amongst folks at the Rackspace as ashwini is not around today | 20:05 |
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| markwash | I'm out Aug 1 through 8 | 20:05 |
| arnaud__ | and July 28 - Jul 30 Nova | 20:06 |
| markwash | oh, the general location is "bay area, california" | 20:06 |
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| markwash | maybe in SF, maybe in Palo Alto | 20:07 |
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| nikhil___ | markwash: post aug 8th might be issue for some folks here as the schools starts then | 20:07 |
| arnaud__ | yeah good point nikhil___ | 20:07 |
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| nikhil___ | some nova folks would want to attend and prefer to travel in the dates range of nova summit | 20:08 |
| markwash | okay | 20:08 |
| alaski | o/ | 20:09 |
| alaski | I'm one of those Nova folks :) | 20:09 |
| nikhil___ | (rather before or after it) | 20:09 |
| markwash | so july 24th and 25th are right before the nova one | 20:09 |
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| markwash | so that's sort of a bonus | 20:09 |
| * markwash wishes TravT were around | 20:10 | |
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| markwash | okay, apart from jcook I'm not hearing a no quite yet | 20:10 |
| markwash | so I think we might have to settle on that | 20:10 |
| markwash | I"ll send something to the list | 20:10 |
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| markwash | maybe there can be a weekend caravan up from SF to Portland | 20:11 |
| markwash | I know a lot of great breweries on the way | 20:11 |
| alaski | +1 | 20:11 |
| arnaud__ | +1 | 20:11 |
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| markwash | lets move on, I think an email is the best we can hope for out of this topic for right now | 20:12 |
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| arnaud__ | markwash, I will update the etherpad (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-juno-mid-cycle-meeting) | 20:12 |
| markwash | arnaud__: thanks! | 20:12 |
| markwash | actually, I'm not sure we have that much in the way of agenda items today, after I give some updates about project and mission stuff | 20:13 |
| markwash | so let me run through those project / tc meeting updates briefly | 20:13 |
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| markwash | First, the TC approved our overdue statement of our old mission. | 20:14 |
| markwash | So yay! we have mission now, just in time to change it :-) | 20:14 |
| markwash | We also had a discussion in the TC meeting about the new mission | 20:14 |
| jokke_ | \\o \o/ o// o/7 | 20:14 |
| markwash | review is still here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98002/ | 20:14 |
| markwash | I think we've got at least one more revision coming but I'm waiting to gather a bit more feedback | 20:15 |
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| arnaud__ | for those who missed it: http://www.openstack.org/blog/2014/06/openstack-technical-committee-update/ | 20:15 |
| markwash | some of that feedback is already there I see, so I'll try to make a pass through tomorrow | 20:15 |
| markwash | The TC also chatted with me about our api consistency issue and actions | 20:15 |
| markwash | and generally said "Go for it, we like your proposal better and think everything else should become consistent with your proposal" | 20:16 |
| hemanth_ | \0/ | 20:16 |
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| markwash | so great job on that proposal folks (hemanth_, rosmaita, et al) | 20:16 |
| markwash | there's a little snag about restiness in the ML but I think we've got consensus to move ahead | 20:16 |
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| markwash | Finally, we also reviewd glance's compatibiltiy with the general integration requirements | 20:17 |
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| markwash | the only urgent takeaway from that meeting was that we need to do some immediate better testing in tempest | 20:18 |
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| markwash | specifically, apparently there is an issue where we were not testing high-bit-set content in image uploads | 20:18 |
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| markwash | I don't have a bug link for you unfortunately | 20:19 |
| jokke_ | markwash: sorry, could you open that up a bit, or am I the only one out as a snow man? | 20:19 |
| markwash | but we need to tackle that pronto | 20:19 |
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| markwash | jokke_: sorry I"ve been a bit of a firehose, which part do you want me to elaborate on? | 20:19 |
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| jokke_ | So what's the issue with testing we are having and specially what did you mean with that high-bit-set? | 20:20 |
| markwash | apparently our tempest tests are missing a fair amount of v2 coverage and, also, image uploads are not testing "binary" image data, only ascii | 20:20 |
| jokke_ | aha | 20:21 |
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| jokke_ | thanks | 20:21 |
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| markwash | so ideally for me, we'd have a patch submitted to tempest to fill that gap by next tuesday | 20:21 |
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| markwash | any takers :-) | 20:22 |
| iccha | else markwash will pick someone :p | 20:22 |
| markwash | we could also settle for filing a bug or other ticket and assigning someone | 20:23 |
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| markwash | iccha: haha | 20:23 |
| markwash | okay I'll loop back around on that one | 20:23 |
| markwash | There were also recommendations that I think made a lot of sense | 20:23 |
| jokke_ | unless the timeline was so tight I'd be more than happy to participate on that, but I think this is bit short notice to start looking what tempest is :P | 20:23 |
| markwash | 1) generally expand our tempest test coverage | 20:23 |
| markwash | 2) try to even out our review cadence | 20:24 |
| markwash | I think some of the review cadence stuff should be improved as we bring in the graffiti and catalog folks more into the team | 20:24 |
| markwash | The last project update I have is, we released juno-1 | 20:25 |
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| markwash | #topic open discussion | 20:25 |
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| markwash | a slow summer day it seems like :-) | 20:26 |
| jokke_ | What's the plan for Image API v1? | 20:26 |
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| jokke_ | Is the deprecation schedule still in place (Deprecated at Juno, removed at K)? | 20:26 |
| markwash | our plan was to move nova to v2 | 20:26 |
| markwash | to add tempest tests for v2 | 20:26 |
| markwash | and then announce the planned deprecation of v1 | 20:27 |
| markwash | jokke_: based on the lack of momentum it might be here a bit longer | 20:27 |
| markwash | at this point, we could not remove it at K IIUC | 20:27 |
| wayne__ | Regarding graffiti, wanted to mention last week we (HP/Intel)submitted an rst doc covering the metadata-schema-catalog service proposal | 20:28 |
| wayne__ | (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98554/3/specs/juno/metadata-schema-catalog.rst) | 20:28 |
| jokke_ | markwash: tbh I wouldn't mind ... It would be great to see how V2 performs in real life before throwing v1 out of the window | 20:28 |
| wayne__ | We welcome any comments. | 20:28 |
| markwash | wayne__: thanks | 20:28 |
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| arnaud__ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84887/ for those interested | 20:29 |
| markwash | jokke_: we also had a hintergedanken of firming up tests around v1 and then porting it to the domain code, to make future maintenance easier | 20:29 |
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| wayne__ | I should note the document is on the long side and to that issue we were wondering if there was any interest in an IRC or Google hangout meeting to facilitate/expedite a discussion around. | 20:29 |
| markwash | arnaud__: cool thanks | 20:29 |
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| jokke_ | One more v1 & v2 question. Do we have a plan to make rollback possible or do we stick on one way plan? | 20:31 |
| markwash | jokke_: one way plan with loads of time for deprecation | 20:31 |
| jokke_ | Our testing has indicated that FE images created via v2 does not show up on v1 listing | 20:31 |
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| markwash | wayne__: that's a good idea | 20:31 |
| TravT | Yes, we can host a google hangout or IRC discussion on the metadata catalog for anybody that is interested. | 20:32 |
| markwash | jokke_: FE ? | 20:32 |
| jokke_ | markwash: For Example | 20:32 |
| markwash | jokke_: that. . . sounds very strange | 20:32 |
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| jokke_ | markwash: I haven't been able to verify it fully yet, but that was message I got ... v1 created stuff works without issues via v2 but not ther way around | 20:33 |
| markwash | regarding TravT and wayne__ 's point: can we get a show of hands people here who feel like the need more info about Graffiti stuff ? | 20:33 |
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| markwash | I feel pretty well informed at this point but I would attend to help facilitate | 20:33 |
| markwash | its okay if people feel like they've got the picture as much as they need already :-) | 20:34 |
| jokke_ | TravT: thanks for the video demo ... made the spec doc way more understandable (hit for everyone, watch it) | 20:34 |
| jokke_ | hint even | 20:34 |
| TravT | jokke_ thanks. | 20:34 |
| nikhil___ | is there a link? | 20:34 |
| TravT | Let me grab that link. | 20:34 |
| jokke_ | nikhil___: it's in the spec proposal .... a sec | 20:35 |
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| nikhil___ | have seen the doc not the video | 20:35 |
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| nikhil___ | kk | 20:35 |
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| TravT | link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dhrthnq1bnw | 20:35 |
| nikhil___ | #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dhrthnq1bnw | 20:35 |
| nikhil___ | s/seen/browsed/g | 20:36 |
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| nikhil___ | Thanks TravT ! | 20:36 |
| TravT | Sure! | 20:36 |
| markwash | so it sounds like maybe you guys have already got it covered for the folks present, TravT | 20:37 |
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| markwash | I'll #info your offer just in case there are more folks reviewing the meeting logs | 20:37 |
| TravT | Ok. If anybody wants to talk in person about it, probably best to email me at travis.tripp@hp.com and we'll set up a hangout. | 20:37 |
| markwash | #info TravT et al available for a google hangout to further explain and answer questions about graffiti work | 20:38 |
| markwash | TravT: once the spec is nailed down and approved, how far are you guys from proposing merges? | 20:38 |
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| markwash | s/merges/patches/ | 20:38 |
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| TravT | Thanks markwash. We've got some stuff started in horizon, but can't go too far without moving further on the Glance side. | 20:39 |
| markwash | TravT: it would be amazing if we could have a substantial amount proposed for juno-2 at least | 20:39 |
| TravT | Definitely! | 20:39 |
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| markwash | TravT did you see our previous discussion about a midcycle meetup date of july 24-25th ? | 20:40 |
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| TravT | No, we barely just joined. We fully expect that the code reviews will provide more opportunity for refinement... | 20:40 |
| TravT | We are interested in attending that. | 20:41 |
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| markwash | TravT: do you know if that date range is feasible for you? | 20:41 |
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| TravT | I think it is.. I really want wayne and lakshmi to be there too since they will be doing a lot of code. | 20:42 |
| wayne__ | Those dates work for me | 20:42 |
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| markwash | okay cool | 20:42 |
| TravT | markwash: basically code wise, we had it all working in our standalone POC service | 20:42 |
| markwash | right | 20:42 |
| TravT | but we'll need to adapt to whatever standards the Glance team uses.. | 20:43 |
| TravT | For example, the POC was pecan / wsme | 20:43 |
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| * markwash cringes at the idea of switching it to our non-pecan/wsme setup | 20:43 | |
| markwash | I would love to see if the pecan/wsme and eventlet-homespun stacks could stand side-by-side in our project without requiring another server process | 20:44 |
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| TravT | We could look into that. | 20:44 |
| wayne__ | we could try that on our side | 20:44 |
| markwash | thanks that would be great | 20:45 |
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| TravT | Otherwise, we did change a few other things from POC, because believe it or not we learned a few things doing a POC. ;-) | 20:45 |
| markwash | haha | 20:46 |
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| markwash | okay folks I think we've about covered what we have for today | 20:46 |
| markwash | shall we close out? | 20:46 |
| jokke_ | sounds good, thanks | 20:46 |
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| markwash | thanks everybody | 20:47 |
| TravT | sounds good. | 20:47 |
| markwash | #endmeeting | 20:47 |
| TravT | thanks! | 20:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 12 20:47:16 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-06-12-20.01.html | 20:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-06-12-20.01.txt | 20:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-06-12-20.01.log.html | 20:47 |
| jokke_ | arnaud__: would you be able to /wc | 20:47 |
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