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| baoli | #startmeeting PCI passthrough | 13:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 29 13:00:04 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is baoli. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
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| baoli | Hi there | 13:00 |
| irenab | hi | 13:00 |
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| baoli | Irenab, hi. | 13:02 |
| irenab | baoli: any update on use case I raised last meeting, for ovs and SR-IOV VF on same network, same host? | 13:03 |
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| baoli | Irenab, not yet. Rob seems to be on vacation. | 13:04 |
| irenab | baoli: ok | 13:04 |
| irenab | hopefully, I will be on vacation next week | 13:05 |
| b3nt_pin | hi (beagles... nick temporarily unavailable I guess) | 13:05 |
| b3nt_pin | baoli, sorry I just realized I forgot to +1 your patch | 13:05 |
| b3nt_pin | rectified | 13:05 |
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| baoli | Irenab, it's summer, so vacation is nice. | 13:06 |
| baoli | beagles, Hi | 13:06 |
| b3nt_pin | +1 | 13:06 |
| irenab | beagles: hi, long time ... | 13:06 |
| b3nt_pin | first real pto in around 10 years this time... even though it was just a week it was pretty nice | 13:06 |
| b3nt_pin | irenab, yeah... I had a lot of schedule mess ups the last month | 13:06 |
| b3nt_pin | sorry :( | 13:07 |
| baoli | beagles, +1 is still much needed, and it's never late. | 13:07 |
| b3nt_pin | already done :) | 13:07 |
| baoli | beagles, hope you had a great time. | 13:07 |
| irenab | baoli: seems patches are in right direction, start to get +1 and +2 | 13:07 |
| b3nt_pin | for one of them at least... gotta get that PCI one done too. | 13:07 |
| baoli | irenab, yea. I noticed a +2 on the bug (which is the first patch the rest depends on) | 13:08 |
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| b3nt_pin | it's a lot bigger and more out of my realm of familiarity... but still | 13:08 |
| b3nt_pin | I noticed a lot of dialog about neutron side changes... progress is good on proliferating support? | 13:09 |
| irenab | beagles: HW_VEB MD is merged! | 13:09 |
| baoli | Given the number of patches, I have to keep rebasing and daily. Sometimes, there are CI failures that are not related to the change. | 13:09 |
| b3nt_pin | irenab, NIFTY! | 13:09 |
| b3nt_pin | baoli, ugh... yeah, I hate that | 13:09 |
| baoli | yea, irenab did a great job on the neutron side | 13:10 |
| irenab | now need to do the right thing with QBH case (sadasu spec) | 13:10 |
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| irenab | baoli: I still have to add few improvments on agent side, but generally its OK | 13:10 |
| baoli | irenab, thanks for the reply on the ml2 md on sriov | 13:11 |
| irenab | baoli: You welcome. I would be happy to help sadasu to insert the QBH part | 13:12 |
| irenab | do we think it makes sense to make it single SR-IOV MD to support superset of HW_VEB and QBH? | 13:13 |
| irenab | I know we initially decided to make it 2 MDs to move fster, but now when first MD is already merged, we may reconsider | 13:13 |
| baoli | irenab, I'm thinking about that too. | 13:14 |
| irenab | great minds think alike :-) | 13:14 |
| baoli | irenab, an SRIOV MD can be considered to have common part and vendor specific part. | 13:15 |
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| baoli | so I was thinking that a little bit restructuring of the NicSwitchMD can be used to address the common part. | 13:16 |
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| irenab | baoli: from the implementation perspective, yes. We need to see from functional perspective if it should support simultaniously different vendor nics, maybe on different network segments | 13:17 |
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| irenab | it should be OK to mix Intel and Mellanox NICs on the sema network as well | 13:18 |
| irenab | s/sema/same | 13:18 |
| baoli | irenab, agree. | 13:19 |
| baoli | irenab, do you like the hierarchy I mentioned in the email? | 13:19 |
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| irenab | baoli: hierarchy is good if we want separate MDs. | 13:20 |
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| irenab | there was some request on review, to allow any pci_vendor_info to be treated by MD, not checking is should support it. We initally needed it to filter between QBH and HW_VEB MDs | 13:22 |
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| baoli | irenab, with super MD, vendor-specific loadable driver is needed | 13:22 |
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| sadasu | that is useful only in an all sr-iov based cloud | 13:23 |
| sadasu | did the person who gave the comment explain why they needed the check to be removed? | 13:23 |
| baoli | for a particular vendor/product, we need encaps, if agent required and vendor specific driver. | 13:23 |
| irenab | baoli: makes sense. We need option to support list of drivers | 13:24 |
| baoli | So the super MD should be able to handle anything that doesn't require a vendor specific "driver" | 13:24 |
| irenab | baoli: super MD, you mean HW_VEB? | 13:24 |
| baoli | irenab, sorry, I was using super MD to refer to the superset you mentioned earlier. | 13:25 |
| irenab | baoli: OK, got it | 13:25 |
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| baoli | irenab, the list should include all the devices, their encaps, agent required and driver info | 13:26 |
| baoli | irenab, with that, the class hierarchy mentioned in the email may not be needed. | 13:27 |
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| irenab | baoli: when agent is required, it supposed to be for all setup, need to think about it a little more | 13:29 |
| irenab | baoi: but generally I like this idea | 13:29 |
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| baoli | irenab, whether or not agent is required can be configured per vendor device, I'm thinking. | 13:30 |
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| irenab | baoli: I think it should be per vif_type | 13:31 |
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| baoli | sadasu, the comments were given on the email thread. You should have received it. | 13:31 |
| irenab | baoli: I think we should do something quite intuitive and easily deployed and see if need more refinment | 13:32 |
| sadasu | baoli: yes I saw it | 13:32 |
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| baoli | irenab, you mean that whether or not agent is required is per vif_type? | 13:32 |
| baoli | irenab, the list should be maintained by the developer, not by the delopyer. | 13:33 |
| irenab | baoli: yes, and this maybe chosen during deployment | 13:33 |
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| baoli | irenab, ok, I see. But right now, only mlnx supports the admin change of port status. | 13:34 |
| irenab | baoli: I am not sure, since you do not want to change openstack code if Intel adds ability to set VF state | 13:34 |
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| irenab | so if the deployment is only with Intel or even with Mellanox, but never intended to change VF state, so no agent will be required and not even installed.. | 13:35 |
| baoli | irenab, I think that agent_required can be set per deployment. | 13:35 |
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| irenab | baoli: exactly | 13:36 |
| irenab | sadsu: we chatted before you joined, that maybe you can leverage already merged MD to add your case there instead of adding new MD | 13:37 |
| baoli | irenab: it's just that it may not be useful for certain vendor devices. | 13:37 |
| sadasu | baoli, irenab: what if the deployment consists of a mixture of vendors, some of which support agents and others do not? | 13:37 |
| sadasu | irenab: I thing that was exactly what was discussed in the commnets for my BP too | 13:38 |
| irenab | sadasu: in such case agent will be in use, and just log warning that invoked operation is not supported | 13:38 |
| irenab | but as we said before if agent is required per VIF_TYPE, it won't mess the HW_VEB and QBH cases | 13:39 |
| sadasu | irenab: I am not sure this will be accepted esp since this wasn't discussed as part of your original BP | 13:39 |
| sadasu | but again I may be wrong | 13:39 |
| sadasu | irenab: ok | 13:40 |
| sadasu | I will look at the meeting log to see what was discussed before I got here | 13:40 |
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| sadasu | but, as I had mentioned, the current sr-iov-nic-switch MD is quite specific to mellanox | 13:41 |
| irenab | sadsu: the API is there, but vendor may not support it.... | 13:41 |
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| irenab | sadsu: I am not sure it is specific, it just enable additional vendor capanilities. It works fine on Intel NICs, just without changing VF state | 13:42 |
| sadasu | irenab: just to be clear, API to support agent you mean? | 13:42 |
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| sadasu | irenab: yes, it should work for the intel case | 13:43 |
| irenab | sadsu: no, api to set VF state to support port-update admin_state for HW_VEB case | 13:43 |
| sadasu | ok got it | 13:43 |
| sadasu | so what is the plan going fwd? | 13:43 |
| irenab | sadsu: agent_required is especially configurable option, since Intel currenlty do not support VF state change | 13:44 |
| sadasu | are we making any changes to the existing sr-iov-nic-switch MD or do I have to use it in its current state | 13:44 |
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| baoli | irenab, sadasu, shall we support this restructuring effort in the next phase? | 13:44 |
| baoli | I think that we need s neutron spec for it. | 13:44 |
| irenab | sadasu: I think its up to you, if you want to leverage existing MD, and it may require some refactoring or add another MD. | 13:45 |
| sadasu | irenab: exactly | 13:45 |
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| irenab | baoli: I am not sure it requires spec. | 13:45 |
| sadasu | I will get the vendor_id, product_id checking for free if I inherited from this MD | 13:46 |
| irenab | sadsu: yes | 13:46 |
| baoli | irenab, if we'd like to do the vendor specific driver with the configuration we just discussed (encaps, driver, etc), I think a neutron spec is deserved. | 13:47 |
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| irenab | baoli: I think we may discuss it with ML2 team, there is a meeting tomorrow | 13:47 |
| sadasu | and the setting of parameters to the set_binding call | 13:47 |
| baoli | irenab, sure. | 13:47 |
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| irenab | baoli: new spec means not be in Juno. And this this purely implementation details | 13:48 |
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| irenab | sadsu: did you take a look on the MD to see if usable for your needs? | 13:49 |
| sadasu | I would have liked for this MD to set the VIF_TYPE and agent type etc in a diff initialization function | 13:50 |
| sadasu | instead of default params to the class itself | 13:50 |
| baoli | irenab, spec or not, I think what's important is we can agree how to "implement" it. | 13:51 |
| sadasu | I don't think this is how a generic MD should be initialized | 13:51 |
| irenab | baoli: +2 | 13:51 |
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| baoli | We don't have to rush for it. | 13:52 |
| irenab | sadasu: if you see how it can reduce code that you need to add, I think you may refactor the existing MD as pat of your patch | 13:52 |
| irenab | s/pat/part | 13:52 |
| sadasu | ok...got it... | 13:52 |
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| baoli | irenab, that's a good way to approach it as well. | 13:53 |
| irenab | baoli: I like the idea to make it one SR-IOV MD | 13:53 |
| baoli | irenab, we are on the same page. | 13:53 |
| sadasu | also in ml2_conf_sriov.ini, the agent_required variable | 13:53 |
| irenab | just need to see that it does not hold you from adding support for QBH | 13:53 |
| sadasu | how will this wok if we have multiple sr-iov MDs inheriting from this one | 13:54 |
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| baoli | sadasu, we are talking about a vendor specific driver | 13:54 |
| baoli | So essentially, it's SR-IOV MD + vendor specific driver | 13:55 |
| baoli | sorry s/driver/drivers/ | 13:55 |
| sadasu | but the base sr-iov-nic-switch MD has code to read this variable correct? | 13:55 |
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| baoli | in order to do that, the MD needs to maintain a list of devices, their encaps (QBH versus HW_VEB) and drivers. | 13:56 |
| sadasu | each vendor-specific driver should have a variable of its own saying if it needs an agent or not | 13:56 |
| irenab | baoli: lets call it vendor specific logic, driver is confusing with MD | 13:56 |
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| baoli | irenab, sure. | 13:56 |
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| irenab | baoli, sadsu: but it looks like something much bigger than we initially wanted to support, although seems right thing to do.... | 13:57 |
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| sadasu | irenab: our design is evolving... | 13:57 |
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| irenab | sadsu: agree, but release dealines not.... | 13:58 |
| baoli | time is almost up. So let's keep discussing it. | 13:58 |
| sadasu | that is where I am still not clear about what we are tackling in this release | 13:58 |
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| baoli | later | 13:58 |
| sadasu | ok... | 13:58 |
| sadasu | thanks..I will raed up the discussion at the start of the meeting | 13:59 |
| baoli | thanks everyone. see you next time. | 13:59 |
| irenab | sadsu: I think the simple way will be reuse the current MD and add the one you intended to add. Later to conslidate and probaly in kilo through all process of spec,... | 13:59 |
| baoli | beagles, thanks again for the review. | 13:59 |
| irenab | sadasy, baoli: let keep discussion via emails? | 14:00 |
| baoli | irenab, sure. | 14:00 |
| irenab | sadsu: want to chat with ml2 team tomorrow? | 14:00 |
| baoli | I have to do now. | 14:00 |
| baoli | #endmeeting | 14:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 29 14:01:00 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2014/pci_passthrough.2014-07-29-13.00.html | 14:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2014/pci_passthrough.2014-07-29-13.00.txt | 14:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2014/pci_passthrough.2014-07-29-13.00.log.html | 14:01 |
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| datsun180b | #startmeeting solum | 16:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 29 16:03:07 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is datsun180b. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: solum)" | 16:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum' | 16:03 |
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| datsun180b | let's see how this thing works | 16:03 |
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| datsun180b | #topic roll call | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: solum)" | 16:03 | |
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| muralia | murali allada | 16:03 |
| datsun180b | <- ed | 16:03 |
| james_li | James Li | 16:03 |
| ravips | Ravi Sankar Penta | 16:03 |
| gpilz | gil pilz | 16:03 |
| stannie | Pierre Padrixe (available for a few mins :/) | 16:04 |
| datsun180b | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum is what i'm referencing. bear with me, not used to running the show | 16:04 |
| datsun180b | #topic announcements | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: solum)" | 16:04 | |
| datsun180b | also feel free to speak up at any time, you'll be counted present if you do | 16:04 |
| julienvey | Julien Vey | 16:04 |
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| datsun180b | Any announcements for Solum this week? | 16:05 |
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| datsun180b | sounds like a no. moving right along | 16:06 |
| datsun180b | no action items to speak of, looks like, so on to bp/task review? | 16:06 |
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| datsun180b | #topic bp/task review | 16:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bp/task review (Meeting topic: solum)" | 16:07 | |
| datsun180b | first up is pipelines | 16:07 |
| datsun180b | tough crowd | 16:07 |
| julienvey | i approved some reviews from angus yesterday | 16:08 |
| stannie | ye same here | 16:08 |
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| datsun180b | you know i think all angus' reviews for pipelines are merged now | 16:08 |
| datsun180b | so how about we move on to "build farm". how's that coming along? | 16:09 |
| stannie | we've started to implement the guestagent stuff | 16:09 |
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| julienvey | yep, we should be able to plug everything soon | 16:10 |
| stannie | and added in solum the dockerfiles, dibs images etc for the guestagent | 16:10 |
| datsun180b | cool, we can get that reviewed in short order | 16:10 |
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| stannie | so we will be able soon to install the guestagent in the current infra images: jenkins, drone | 16:10 |
| stannie | also we need more review on the spec direclty | 16:11 |
| stannie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102866/ | 16:11 |
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| datsun180b | noted. our spec repo is a little slim, but not for lack of submissions! | 16:11 |
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| datsun180b | anything else of note for build farms/guest agent? | 16:12 |
| julienvey | seems good | 16:12 |
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| datsun180b | baton pass to ravips with private git repo integration! | 16:12 |
| ravips | this task is very close to completion, code changes for api/worker/cli and unit/functional tests done | 16:12 |
| ravips | pending items: need to fix 3 errors reported by gate and code review from the team | 16:12 |
| datsun180b | i notice your barbican review got shot down for compatibility with another patch, how can we help with that? | 16:13 |
| muralia | good stuff. | 16:13 |
| ravips | pull requests for review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105605/ , https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109468/ | 16:13 |
| datsun180b | and did you manage to figure out your tox/testr problems from yesterday? if not, we can talk it out in #solum today | 16:13 |
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| ravips | we are ok without that change to python-barbican..they have added a workaround that | 16:14 |
| datsun180b | oh good, so it's not a blocker | 16:14 |
| ravips | enables us to use barbican | 16:14 |
| ravips | yes, no blocker for us | 16:14 |
| datsun180b | cool, anything else? | 16:14 |
| ravips | i hope we can get this into master sometime this week | 16:15 |
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| datsun180b | we'll do our part to review it all | 16:15 |
| ravips | thx :) | 16:15 |
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| datsun180b | moving on to chained trusts--i don't see asakeld here so it's all you, julienvey | 16:16 |
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| julienvey | I absolutely don't know what happened on this the past 2 weeks :P | 16:16 |
| datsun180b | vacances have that effect | 16:16 |
| julienvey | angus had a workaround anyway | 16:17 |
| julienvey | creating an empty stack | 16:17 |
| datsun180b | guess we can ask him a little later then | 16:18 |
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| datsun180b | oh looks like i missed one more topic before we move to open discussion | 16:18 |
| datsun180b | J2 development tasks | 16:18 |
| datsun180b | #link https://launchpad.net/solum/+milestone/juno-2 | 16:18 |
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| datsun180b | guess we've already got updates on a couple of those | 16:19 |
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| datsun180b | any other comments on those tasks? otherwise we move to open discussion | 16:20 |
| datsun180b | #topic open discussion | 16:21 |
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| aratim | can we discuss the changes required in build-app due to nova-docker changes? | 16:22 |
| datsun180b | oh sure | 16:22 |
| datsun180b | nova-docker changed recently to use glance instead of docker-registry | 16:22 |
| datsun180b | problem was, we were also using docker-registry and were letting nova-docker install it for us | 16:23 |
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| datsun180b | so the change to build-app is just in keeping with that change, storing our DUs in glance the same way | 16:24 |
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| datsun180b | as a side effect our devstack environment isn't using docker-registry now, so hooray fewer dependencies? | 16:24 |
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| aratim | :) | 16:25 |
| gpilz | DUs ? | 16:25 |
| ravips | deployment unit | 16:25 |
| aratim | thanks datsun180b. this helps keep everyone upto speed on what's happening at this end. | 16:25 |
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| gpilz | thanx | 16:25 |
| datsun180b | sorry i hadn't communicated that clearly in my reviews, i was geared on making it work again | 16:25 |
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| ravips | where is the corresponding rst file for this link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/Testing | 16:26 |
| datsun180b | i'm a little worried that i couldn't quite get it to use the --is-public=True flag for glance but that doesn't seem to be a problem at present | 16:26 |
| datsun180b | I don't know that we have a file in our repos for that link, ravips | 16:27 |
| datsun180b | let me check | 16:27 |
| aratim | I dont think we have it | 16:27 |
| ravips | i want to add some notes on running specific unit or functional tests instead of running the whole test suite | 16:27 |
| datsun180b | do you want me to make adding that doc to our repo an action item? | 16:28 |
| ravips | that will be very helpful | 16:28 |
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| datsun180b | #action ravips to add testing docs to repo (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/Testing) | 16:29 |
| ravips | some of our docs related to cli is not upto date | 16:29 |
| datsun180b | "assembly create"'s syntax changed, i know | 16:29 |
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| datsun180b | so anything else? i don't want to keep you all if we're all done | 16:30 |
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| aratim | I also have to add documentation for "languagepack build" but that is currently still in progress | 16:31 |
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| datsun180b | oh that's a big one--i haven't created my own LP yet and might do to learn soon | 16:31 |
| datsun180b | okay, anything else to discuss before i end this? | 16:32 |
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| datsun180b | thanks everyone. i'm not used to running these but i hope we covered everything | 16:33 |
| datsun180b | see you all in #solum | 16:34 |
| datsun180b | #endmeeting | 16:34 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 29 16:34:02 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum/2014/solum.2014-07-29-16.03.html | 16:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum/2014/solum.2014-07-29-16.03.txt | 16:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum/2014/solum.2014-07-29-16.03.log.html | 16:34 |
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| serg_melikyan | #startmeeting murano | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 29 17:00:01 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is serg_melikyan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:00 |
| serg_melikyan | o/ | 17:00 |
| serg_melikyan | Hi :) | 17:00 |
| IgorYozhikov | hi | 17:00 |
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| serg_melikyan | Agenda for today's meeting is available here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda | 17:01 |
| dteselkin_ | Hi | 17:01 |
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| gokrokve | Hi | 17:01 |
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| serg_melikyan | Let's start as usual with AI review :) | 17:02 |
| serg_melikyan | #topic Action Items Review | 17:02 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Action Items Review (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:02 | |
| tsufiev | hi | 17:02 |
| smurashov_ | hi | 17:02 |
| serg_melikyan | katyafervent, tsufiev first action item is on you :) | 17:02 |
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| tsufiev | oops | 17:02 |
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| serg_melikyan | "update etherpad with results of our investigations about unit and integration tests in Horizon/Muranodashboard" | 17:02 |
| serg_melikyan | Any news since last week? | 17:03 |
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| katyafervent | hi | 17:03 |
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| serg_melikyan | I assume that there are no news about this AI? | 17:04 |
| serg_melikyan | :) | 17:04 |
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| tsufiev | serg_melikyan, I think there should be one person responsible :) | 17:04 |
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| serg_melikyan | katyafervent: had you time to update etherpad with results of investigations? | 17:05 |
| katyafervent | No, I don't know what else to investigate | 17:06 |
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| serg_melikyan | katyafervent: so all results are already published? | 17:06 |
| ruhe_ | i think its alrwady in progress | 17:06 |
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| ruhe_ | katyafervent is moving dashboard tests to work inside devstack | 17:07 |
| katyafervent | I'm searching for etherpad | 17:07 |
| serg_melikyan | katyafervent: thx! | 17:07 |
| serg_melikyan | Then let's to move to another AI | 17:07 |
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| serg_melikyan | sjmc7: "Get more details on Apps Licencing from HP side" | 17:08 |
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| sjmc7 | what ryan already did is fine for this for now | 17:08 |
| serg_melikyan | I think patch from drupalmonkey is already merged :) | 17:08 |
| sjmc7 | yeah | 17:08 |
| drupalmonkey | yep | 17:08 |
| serg_melikyan | :) | 17:08 |
| sjmc7 | we'll revisit if and when proper licensing comes up | 17:08 |
| serg_melikyan | sjmc7: ok, thx | 17:09 |
| serg_melikyan | Looks like this is all on AI Review topic | 17:09 |
| serg_melikyan | Did I miss somethings? | 17:09 |
| serg_melikyan | #topic Announcements | 17:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:10 | |
| serg_melikyan | #info murano-apps project is created | 17:10 |
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| katyafervent | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon_unit_tests_analysis here it is, but there is no any update | 17:11 |
| gokrokve | Cool. Does it have gerrit? | 17:11 |
| serg_melikyan | gokrokve: sure | 17:11 |
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| serg_melikyan | This repository is intended as storage for applications that may serve as example for community | 17:11 |
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| ruhe_ | yes, i wouldnt like to see our complex examples. theyre too scary for newcomers | 17:12 |
| serg_melikyan | I agree with ruhe that we need to start filling-in this repo with examples based on SoftwareConfiguration, with Hot Packages and so on. | 17:13 |
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| gokrokve | https://github.com/murano-project/murano-app-incubator/tree/master/io.murano.apps.java.HelloWorldCluster | 17:13 |
| gokrokve | How about that? | 17:13 |
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| gokrokve | Just added this night. | 17:13 |
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| gokrokve | Can use both single instance Tomcat and Tomcat Cluster with LB | 17:14 |
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| gokrokve | New Tomcats are added too | 17:14 |
| serg_melikyan | gokrokve: cool! I think this one will eventually end-up in murano-apps :) But you need to make change to Gerrit | 17:14 |
| ruhe_ | gokrokve thats an example of a complex package | 17:15 |
| stan_lagun | SoftwareCongiguration doesn't make applications simpler by itself. It just a replacement for MuranoAgent which is rarely a reason for complexity | 17:15 |
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| serg_melikyan | stan_lagun: agree, but SoftwareConfiguration has much more demand for now | 17:15 |
| stan_lagun | I don't say not to use it | 17:15 |
| serg_melikyan | I will write-up a little email to mailing-list tomorrow about this repository and our plans | 17:16 |
| gokrokve | As I heard there is an issue with SoftwareConfigs | 17:16 |
| gokrokve | they are executed on each stack update | 17:16 |
| serg_melikyan | #action sergmelikyan need to write-up a little email to mailing-list tomorrow about this repository and our plans | 17:16 |
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| stan_lagun | But having lots of simple applications won't help anyone as most real life applications are complex and the person who tries to write such application will have no proper example | 17:16 |
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| gokrokve | Agree. That is why we have examples with inheritance and multiple selections | 17:17 |
| sjmc7 | then we can add a proper, well documented example | 17:17 |
| btully | i agree that a mix of simple to complex would be ideal | 17:17 |
| sjmc7 | but we need short introduction ones | 17:17 |
| gokrokve | +1 | 17:17 |
| sjmc7 | that teach concepts | 17:17 |
| stan_lagun | lets rate them | 17:17 |
| gokrokve | I think the best candidates are databases | 17:18 |
| stan_lagun | as for books. Intended reader level | 17:18 |
| gokrokve | MariaDB, MySQL, PostreSQL, Mongo | 17:18 |
| serg_melikyan | eventually this repository will be filled with all sorts of applications, but we need to always mind that application in murano-apps are public examples about how to create application in particular case. Starting from apps focused on SoftwareConfig is logical | 17:18 |
| ruhe_ | sergmelikyan, +1 | 17:18 |
| gokrokve | Sure. DBs are godd candidates as they usually require less steps for installation | 17:18 |
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| btully | agreed, teaching concepts is crucial. i think that should be the primary focus vs # of steps | 17:19 |
| stan_lagun | if gokrokve is right about configs being reaplied on each update this would mean they are still useless in Heat | 17:19 |
| serg_melikyan | Looks like we are on the same wave here :) | 17:19 |
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| serg_melikyan | Let's move to the next topic | 17:19 |
| serg_melikyan | #topic Plans for Juno | 17:19 |
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| * serg_melikyan meen juno-3 | 17:20 | |
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| serg_melikyan | part of blueprints that were approved for J2 but not finished were moved to j3 | 17:21 |
| serg_melikyan | let's go through blueprints mentioned in agenda | 17:21 |
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| serg_melikyan | 1)https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/disable-murano-agent | 17:21 |
| sjmc7 | there's a patch in review | 17:22 |
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| serg_melikyan | sjmc7: thank you! | 17:22 |
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| serg_melikyan | And since we agreed on implementation this BP may be approved, right? | 17:23 |
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| sjmc7 | i think it got agreed upon previously | 17:23 |
| ruhe_ | i guess we can mark this as approved | 17:23 |
| serg_melikyan | any objections? | 17:23 |
| serg_melikyan | sjmc7: yeah, but BP in LP was not marked so, I don't know why | 17:23 |
| serg_melikyan | done | 17:23 |
| serg_melikyan | 2) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/engine-test-based-on-murano-pythonclient | 17:24 |
| stan_lagun | Why need to disable Agent? You can just use images without Agent | 17:25 |
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| serg_melikyan | I think this is really useful thing, but which implementation scenarios we are going to choose? | 17:25 |
| serg_melikyan | stan_lagun: where you have been when we discussed this BP? :) | 17:25 |
| sjmc7 | yes, you can, and then it fails to deploy without any message | 17:26 |
| stan_lagun | for 1 minute? | 17:26 |
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| serg_melikyan | stan_lagun: nope, this this was discussed for weeks | 17:26 |
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| sjmc7 | this isn't the first discussion of it. it's optional, doesn't require any action to leave it enabled | 17:26 |
| stan_lagun | If you disable agent you are not supposed to use agent-based apps anyway | 17:26 |
| serg_melikyan | stan_lagun: this is idea | 17:27 |
| sjmc7 | let's re-discuss this later if need be | 17:27 |
| serg_melikyan | sjmc7: +100 | 17:27 |
| ruhe_ | its a feature request for deployments where agent is not usable at all | 17:27 |
| serg_melikyan | what about second one? | 17:27 |
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| serg_melikyan | I mean second link that I have shared: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/engine-test-based-on-murano-pythonclient | 17:27 |
| smurashov_ | if we make murano engine tests inhereted from tempest scenarios, we complicate murano-ci | 17:28 |
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| smurashov_ | we will need to clone tempest, and configure it | 17:28 |
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| serg_melikyan | But eventually we can run some set of tests on OpenStack CI? | 17:29 |
| serg_melikyan | (for example without deployment) | 17:29 |
| serg_melikyan | or with faked one | 17:29 |
| smurashov_ | all engine tests with deployment | 17:30 |
| smurashov_ | isn't it? | 17:30 |
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| serg_melikyan | I think I like the idea, but we need to discuss implementation more. | 17:30 |
| serg_melikyan | any objections? | 17:30 |
| ruhe_ | i expect our tests to run in a limited devstack env, where murano, dashboard and tempest are installed via devstack and the rest is used from a stable cloud installation | 17:31 |
| ruhe_ | but that's future | 17:31 |
| smurashov_ | + | 17:31 |
| serg_melikyan | ruhe_: I think we definitely need this feature, and I have already marked Direction as Approved. But let's discuss this thing a little bit more | 17:32 |
| serg_melikyan | 3) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/muano-api-exception-handling | 17:32 |
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| serg_melikyan | First of all, we need to fix URI for this BP :) | 17:33 |
| serg_melikyan | katyafervent: :) | 17:33 |
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| serg_melikyan | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/murano-api-exception-handling | 17:33 |
| serg_melikyan | sjmc7: I think you had some BP/Bug related to this? | 17:34 |
| sjmc7 | i think it's been gradually improving | 17:34 |
| katyafervent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/1328662 | 17:34 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1328662 in murano "[api] Should return JSON/XML error response bodies" [High,Confirmed] | 17:34 |
| sjmc7 | there are a number of bugs/blueprints, will keep working on it | 17:34 |
| sjmc7 | stan's improvements have helped too | 17:34 |
| katyafervent | Here it is | 17:34 |
| katyafervent | But murano-api still have no special exception handing | 17:35 |
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| katyafervent | or similar blueprint is already exist? | 17:36 |
| ruhe_ | i've stated my -1 on teh whiteboard | 17:36 |
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| serg_melikyan | "[ruhe] +1 for idea, -1 for spec. needs more details - you need to be more explicit, you can even list exceptions you'd like to declare in murano codebase" | 17:36 |
| serg_melikyan | (c) | 17:36 |
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| serg_melikyan | ruhe_: +1 | 17:36 |
| serg_melikyan | We can assign this issue with j3, and katyafervent would update description | 17:37 |
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| katyafervent | Ok | 17:37 |
| serg_melikyan | any objections? BP would be approved after description will be updated | 17:37 |
| ruhe_ | yep, definitely needs more work and unputs | 17:37 |
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| serg_melikyan | 4) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/support-keystone-v3 | 17:38 |
| sjmc7 | i think this was approved already | 17:38 |
| sjmc7 | i'm going to try to work on it in the next couple of weeks | 17:38 |
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| sjmc7 | oh.. there was one other that i just remembered | 17:39 |
| serg_melikyan | This one is a one of the major features in J3, Direction is Approved but Definition is Discussing. | 17:39 |
| sjmc7 | about more efficiently retrieving packages during deployment | 17:39 |
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| katyafervent | #action katyafervent Extend the description of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/murano-api-exception-handling | 17:39 |
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| sjmc7 | oops, sorry. regarding keystone - i haven't had a chance to look at it yet, but i think it's straightfoward | 17:40 |
| sjmc7 | most of the other openstack services support v3 already | 17:40 |
| serg_melikyan | sjmc7: agree with you. I don't think that we need additional discussion on this | 17:40 |
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| serg_melikyan | any objections? ruhe_ ? | 17:41 |
| ruhe_ | approve it! :) | 17:41 |
| serg_melikyan | done :) | 17:41 |
| serg_melikyan | sjmc7: yeah, issue with package caching is very important... | 17:41 |
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| serg_melikyan | https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/1334352 | 17:43 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1334352 in murano "package loading makes repeat API calls" [High,Confirmed] | 17:43 |
| ruhe_ | thats actually the biggest one | 17:43 |
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| serg_melikyan | Assigned for j3 and raised priority | 17:43 |
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| serg_melikyan | sjmc7: you agree with this? :) | 17:45 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, i think it's pretty important | 17:45 |
| serg_melikyan | Ok | 17:45 |
| serg_melikyan | all, https://launchpad.net/murano/+milestone/juno-3 - please, take a look, do we miss some important BP that is not listed, but you do like to see it here? | 17:46 |
| sjmc7 | i took a quick look earlier | 17:46 |
| sjmc7 | nothing else caught my eye | 17:47 |
| serg_melikyan | Than this is all for plans for Juno 3 :) | 17:47 |
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| serg_melikyan | #topic Open Discussion | 17:48 |
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| katyafervent | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/dynamic-ui-specify-no-explicit-name-field | 17:49 |
| katyafervent | What about this blueprint? will we continue to discuss it? | 17:49 |
| serg_melikyan | This one is approved in direction, and I have no objections about implementation details. | 17:51 |
| tsufiev | serg_melikyan, there were some concerns from sjmc7 IIRC | 17:52 |
| sjmc7 | not particularly. it just seems a bit unclean | 17:53 |
| sjmc7 | i don't understand the issue enough to complain one way or the other | 17:53 |
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| serg_melikyan | I am not sure that we should do this BP in J3, though | 17:54 |
| tsufiev | sjmc7, could you please specify how the description should be extended to make it more clean? | 17:54 |
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| tsufiev | sjmc7, I mean, which part - dashboard/dynamic_ui/engine should be clarified? | 17:54 |
| sjmc7 | split it up into paragraphs; exlpain exactly why something fields are going directly from the ui to the engine | 17:55 |
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| tsufiev | sjmc7, have split it into paragraphs. I think stan_lagun could provide more exact info on the lifecycle of object model once it left muranodashboard and entered murano-api | 17:57 |
| katyafervent | https://github.com/murano-project/murano-app-incubator/blob/master/io.murano.apps.linux.Telnet/UI/telnet.yaml#L13 | 17:57 |
| katyafervent | this part | 17:57 |
| serg_melikyan | we are running out of the time, let's move discussion to #murano. | 17:58 |
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| serg_melikyan | #endmeeting | 17:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 29 17:59:00 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2014/murano.2014-07-29-17.00.html | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2014/murano.2014-07-29-17.00.txt | 17:59 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2014/murano.2014-07-29-17.00.log.html | 17:59 |
| tsufiev | bye | 17:59 |
| stan_lagun | sjmc7: the point is that dashboard must produce only the produce only those properties that are declared in appropriate MuranoPL class and cannot have some predefined properties it relies on that were not declared | 17:59 |
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| slagle | hi | 19:02 |
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| lxsli | Suddenly, a wild nonconformist appears! | 19:02 |
| slagle | hey, you noticed me didn't you? :) | 19:02 |
| slagle | it works | 19:02 |
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| tchaypo | o/ | 19:04 |
| lxsli | See tchaypo is not afraid of the clone army | 19:04 |
| tchaypo | actually i am. that's why I'm trying to hide behind conformity | 19:04 |
| slagle | lifeless: meeting? | 19:05 |
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| tchaypo | YES BELOVED PTL. OF COURSE BELOVED PTL. | 19:05 |
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| tchaypo | btw we need to find a host for next week's other-timeslot meeting because lifeless, stevek and I will be busy with the sydney OSUG | 19:06 |
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| slagle | tchaypo: who else shows up for that meeting? | 19:07 |
| slagle | typically | 19:07 |
| tchaypo | not many people who also show up for this one. I should send an email about that. | 19:08 |
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| tchaypo | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-06-25-06.59.html has a representative attendance list. maybe we can get greghaynes to do it... | 19:09 |
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| slagle | did lifeless say at the mid-cycle that he was going to miss this meeting? i can't recall | 19:10 |
| greghaynes | haha | 19:10 |
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| * greghaynes isnt in a good spot to run this one, someone should start though :) | 19:11 | |
| jdob | i know he's busy for the next two weeks | 19:11 |
| jdob | but dont remember anything about this meeting | 19:11 |
| slagle | #startmeeting TripleO | 19:12 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 29 19:12:16 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slagle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:12 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: TripleO)" | 19:12 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 19:12 |
| tchaypo | thank you slagle | 19:12 |
| greghaynes | wooo slagle! | 19:12 |
| slagle | #topic agenda | 19:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: TripleO)" | 19:12 | |
| slagle | bugs | 19:12 |
| slagle | reviews | 19:12 |
| slagle | Projects needing releases | 19:12 |
| slagle | CD Cloud status | 19:12 |
| slagle | CI | 19:13 |
| slagle | Tuskar | 19:13 |
| slagle | Specs | 19:13 |
| slagle | one-off items | 19:13 |
| slagle | open discussion | 19:13 |
| slagle | #action slagle make the agenda copy/pasteable from the wiki page | 19:13 |
| slagle | #topic bugs | 19:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: TripleO)" | 19:13 | |
| slagle | let's talk about untriaged bugs everyone! | 19:13 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 19:14 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/ | 19:14 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config | 19:14 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-apply-config | 19:14 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config | 19:14 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-cloud-config | 19:14 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar | 19:14 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tuskarclient | 19:14 |
| slagle | there are 7 untriaged bugs in tripleo | 19:15 |
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| slagle | we should have had a bug day last week :( | 19:15 |
| slagle | can folks step in and triage those? | 19:15 |
| slagle | i don't want to go through them all | 19:15 |
| * slagle looks at criticals | 19:15 | |
| slagle | this one was failing CI this morning: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1349913 | 19:16 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1349913 in tripleo "Error: Failed to execute command via SSH" [Critical,Triaged] | 19:16 |
| * slagle assigns to derekh. | 19:16 | |
| slagle | he's not here to defend himself | 19:16 |
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| slagle | the ironic bug is unassigned | 19:17 |
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| tchaypo | hah. I did the same. | 19:18 |
| slagle | lucas gomes +2's the tripleo revert, so i suspect the ironic bug should be assigned to him | 19:18 |
| slagle | unfortunately i'm totally failing at guessing his launchpad id | 19:18 |
| slagle | so, moving on | 19:18 |
| slagle | all the other crits have assignees | 19:19 |
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| slagle | given the midcycle last week, i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of progress wasn't made given other committments | 19:20 |
| slagle | so i don't think it's worth going through each one asking for status | 19:20 |
| slagle | does anyone have anything specific to bring up? or ask for help on any they own? | 19:20 |
| tchaypo | not just the mid-cycle last week | 19:20 |
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| tchaypo | also oscon, and pycon-au starts on friday, and I think there's another con on in the northen hemisphere, and a heat mid-cycle around now | 19:21 |
| tchaypo | so I'd expect things to be slow for another week or two | 19:21 |
| slagle | yea, agreed | 19:21 |
| slagle | let me take a quick look at the other projects besides tripleo | 19:21 |
| slagle | unless someone already did... | 19:22 |
| slagle | dib ok | 19:22 |
| lifeless | huh | 19:22 |
| slagle | os-*-config looks ok. i triaged one bug, there's a fix proposed | 19:23 |
| slagle | lifeless: hi | 19:23 |
| lifeless | I thought the meeting was 12 hours out - sorry everyone, and thanks for running it slagle | 19:23 |
| slagle | just running through the bug list | 19:23 |
| lifeless | don't let me interrupt, I'm not truely here | 19:23 |
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| slagle | tuskar has 20 or so bugs | 19:24 |
| slagle | jdob: it would be cool if someone could run through those and close those out that are no longer relevant | 19:24 |
| jdob | will do; I suspect quite a few won't be relevant | 19:24 |
| slagle | yea, i see one about sqlite, tec | 19:24 |
| slagle | etc | 19:24 |
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| slagle | if we're not going to fix them, kill with fire | 19:24 |
| jdob | oh, fire will be brought | 19:25 |
| slagle | any other bug business? | 19:25 |
| slagle | #topic reviews | 19:25 |
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| slagle | all review stats links are failing to load for me | 19:26 |
| slagle | anyone else having any luck? | 19:26 |
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| lxsli | stackalytics works for me | 19:27 |
| slagle | #link www.nemebean.com/reviewstats/ | 19:27 |
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| slagle | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-openreviews.html | 19:28 |
| slagle | ok, that's loading now | 19:28 |
| slagle | glitch in the matrix i guess | 19:28 |
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| slagle | 3rd quartile wait time: 13 days, 9 hours, 11 minutes | 19:28 |
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| slagle | about the same, or perhaps a little worse | 19:28 |
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| slagle | i think we took a vote on something 2 weeks ago | 19:29 |
| slagle | to review the longest waiting reviews or something? | 19:29 |
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| slagle | i'm having a hard time remembering. last week wiped out all short term memory | 19:29 |
| jdob | not sure it was a vote or just a request | 19:29 |
| jdob | but that was the general idea | 19:29 |
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| slagle | right | 19:30 |
| tchaypo | so I've been doing that using the dashboard | 19:30 |
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| jdob | speaking of the dashboard, for some reason tuskar had disappeared from it | 19:30 |
| tchaypo | and finding lots of reviews that are old, and have no negative reviews, but don't have a clear path forward | 19:30 |
| jdob | so if you had it bookmarked, please rebookmark | 19:30 |
| tchaypo | jdob: did you update the wiki? | 19:30 |
| jdob | yes, and the gerrit dashboard thingie too | 19:31 |
| slagle | tchaypo: i'd humbly suggest a friendly -1 in that case | 19:31 |
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| slagle | with a suggestion to define the path forward :) | 19:31 |
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| slagle | maybe a spec is needed, discussion on the list, etc. | 19:31 |
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| slagle | or a workflow -1 | 19:32 |
| tchaypo | so like | 19:32 |
| tchaypo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106909/ | 19:32 |
| tchaypo | title says WIP, but it's not workflow-1 - worth adding a -1? | 19:32 |
| slagle | tchaypo: yes | 19:32 |
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| slagle | if the commit message says WIP, i'd workflow -1 it | 19:32 |
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| slagle | it's easy to forget to do that as the patch submitter | 19:33 |
| tchaypo | I'd love to workflow-1, but I don't have the power :p | 19:33 |
| slagle | also, some of the "longest waiting reviews" have had recent patchsets, i'm not sure these stats are accurate | 19:33 |
| slagle | 83 days, 4 hours, 24 minutes https://review.openstack.org/86316 (Add elasticsearch element) | 19:33 |
| slagle | maybe i'm not interpreting things correctly, but i think the stats are misleading a bit | 19:34 |
| jp_at_hp | slagle: that's a different section, no? That's longest since oldest rev? | 19:34 |
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| slagle | oh, "based on oldest revision" | 19:35 |
| slagle | jp_at_hp: yea | 19:35 |
| slagle | ok, any other review business? | 19:35 |
| tchaypo | I don't think that dashboard entirely aligns with what reviewstats looks at, but it seems like it should help | 19:35 |
| tchaypo | for those of us who can't W-1 | 19:35 |
| tchaypo | should we raise it in channel and ask a core to jump on it? | 19:35 |
| slagle | not sure it's worth a disruption, but you could always ping the submitter | 19:36 |
| slagle | ask them if they forgot to update the commit message, or workflow-1 | 19:36 |
| slagle | or comment in the review | 19:36 |
| slagle | #topic releases | 19:37 |
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| slagle | any volunteers to release? | 19:37 |
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| jdob | this week is kinda shitty for me, but sure, I'll do it | 19:38 |
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| jdob | (can't think of any new movie quotes on "volunteering", so you get practical this week) | 19:38 |
| slagle | i think you and I are the only ones present who have released :) | 19:39 |
| jdob | and you' | 19:39 |
| slagle | if you don't get to it, ping me | 19:39 |
| jdob | re running the meeting... damn, I'm stuck :D | 19:39 |
| jdob | will do, thanks slagle | 19:39 |
| slagle | #action jdob release the world | 19:39 |
| jdob | i'm sure i will; it's a good break from things that make my head hurt | 19:39 |
| slagle | #topic CD Cloud Status | 19:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CD Cloud Status (Meeting topic: TripleO)" | 19:39 | |
| slagle | this one is going to time out in 5 seconds... | 19:40 |
| slagle | #topic CI | 19:40 |
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| slagle | we had some blockers, they were reverted (thanks derekh_) | 19:40 |
| greghaynes | ironic one is still there... | 19:40 |
| jp_at_hp | slagle: we're still waiting on the ironic ssh revert aren't we? | 19:40 |
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| derekh_ | slagle: yup as of this morning We're now carriing a patch for a horizon regression https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110250/ | 19:40 |
| slagle | it was reverted in tripleo-ci | 19:40 |
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| derekh_ | Then soon after ironic merged a commit that causes it to use a new command over ssh, so out tests are failing because ssh on the testenvs is locked down to only allow specific commands | 19:41 |
| jdob | so i'm good to kick off a bunch of rechecks? | 19:41 |
| slagle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110352/ | 19:41 |
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| jp_at_hp | not yet merged (and not yet passing ci) | 19:41 |
| slagle | and...it failed | 19:41 |
| derekh_ | we still have no solution for the ironic problem, test revert failed twice now, not sure if its related or not, | 19:41 |
| derekh_ | I see there is a recheck going again | 19:41 |
| jp_at_hp | derekh_: that was me | 19:42 |
| slagle | i can look into it if that fails | 19:42 |
| slagle | although i have some other committments this evening, so i may not get to it right away | 19:42 |
| derekh_ | This isn't really a regresion in ironic, more that our TE's just don't allow it | 19:42 |
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| derekh_ | I started looking into what we need to do to allow the new commands over ssh but didn't get far before I had to go | 19:43 |
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| jp_at_hp | #idea move definition of ssh commands needed into ironic test envs... | 19:43 |
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| derekh_ | For now if the revert passes I think merge it and I'll try and build new TE tomorrow | 19:44 |
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| derekh_ | jp_at_hp: how do you mean? | 19:44 |
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| derekh_ | if it doesn't pass then maybe another relate thing needs to be mreged also, somebody in ironic may be able to help there | 19:44 |
| jp_at_hp | have ironic describe the commands they will use and pull that for the tripleo testenvs from the latest landed ironic codebase | 19:45 |
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| jp_at_hp | kinda like rootwrap, but for ssh, and defined at usage-point not by us | 19:45 |
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| slagle | there's a handful of ironic errors in the seed logs on that failed CI jobs | 19:46 |
| derekh_ | jp_at_hp: ahh ok, if we went down that road we would need to dynamically check them to ensure we were current (possible but maybe tricky to get rigth and secure) | 19:46 |
| slagle | just need to correlate that with the proposed revert in ironic to see if they're related or not | 19:46 |
| derekh_ | also there is a tmp eventlet patch somewhere that seems to help with the bug we have been seeing | 19:46 |
| lifeless | ironic must have landed that patch with a CI failure from us I presume ? | 19:47 |
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| derekh_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109543/ | 19:47 |
| derekh_ | lifeless: it did land with a CI failure (but unrelated) | 19:47 |
| slagle | there was successful tripleo CI job on the patch on 7/22 | 19:48 |
| slagle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89884/ | 19:49 |
| lxsli | anyone mind if I +A 109543? | 19:49 |
| slagle | so maybe it's a combination of things, etc | 19:49 |
| slagle | requires more investigation | 19:49 |
| derekh_ | slagle: ya, I noticed that, I *think* its because the interface in question wasn't being used on that date, until another commit merged in | 19:49 |
| slagle | derekh_: ah, ok | 19:49 |
| lifeless | derekh_: so thats my point, there must be some failure somewhere ;) | 19:50 |
| jp_at_hp | derekh_: wouldn't that mean the commit using the interface would also have to revert? | 19:50 |
| derekh_ | jp_at_hp: yup, so maybe we need to test a double revert | 19:50 |
| lifeless | or just the one triggering the use | 19:51 |
| lifeless | thats the latest one | 19:51 |
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| derekh_ | lifeless: yup it would make sense but I couldn't find it | 19:52 |
| slagle | ok, let's pick up the ci topic in #tripleo post meeting | 19:53 |
| slagle | before the meeting times out | 19:53 |
| slagle | #topic tuskar | 19:53 |
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| slagle | anything of note? | 19:54 |
| jdob | nothing in particular | 19:54 |
| slagle | ok :) | 19:54 |
| slagle | #topic specs | 19:54 |
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| jdob | just the earlier comment about the dashboard | 19:54 |
| slagle | we had a fair amount of discussion about specs at the midcycle | 19:54 |
| slagle | i was going to summarize that in a note to the list | 19:54 |
| slagle | also, as requested i pulled together a draft of the spec approval checklist | 19:55 |
| jdob | slagle: can you also note the thread about voting on a weekly spec minimum? | 19:55 |
| slagle | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleO/SpecReviews | 19:55 |
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| slagle | jdob: you mean right here? or in the email? | 19:55 |
| jdob | in the email :) | 19:55 |
| slagle | jdob: ok | 19:55 |
| jdob | i wondered if that wasn't clear after I hit enter | 19:55 |
| slagle | lifeless: ^ the wiki page about specs approval i said i'd pull together | 19:56 |
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| slagle | lifeless: also i'd like to ask for some clarification around approving specs in relation to a "juno priority" | 19:57 |
| slagle | lifeless: if you could see my reply on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94876/ | 19:57 |
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| slagle | i think that's something we need to have a consensus on as a group... | 19:57 |
| slagle | but will bring it up in the email | 19:58 |
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| slagle | #topic open discussion | 19:58 |
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| slagle | i think the midcycle was productive :) | 19:58 |
| jdob | +1 | 19:59 |
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| lifeless | slagle: I will reply there | 19:59 |
| slagle | thanks | 19:59 |
| slagle | see everyone in #tripleo | 19:59 |
| slagle | #endmeeting | 19:59 |
| jdob | \o | 19:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 29 19:59:45 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-07-29-19.12.html | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-07-29-19.12.txt | 19:59 |
| lifeless | slagle: but briefly - I'm not so concerned about 'for juno' vs 'current bandwidth and concurernt work in progress' | 19:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-07-29-19.12.log.html | 19:59 |
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| lifeless | slagle: which are roughly the same thing in the openstack context | 19:59 |
| lifeless | slagle: agree with need for consensus | 20:00 |
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| slagle | lifeless: ok. i know other projects are going the -2 route to indicate "not for juno". i don't *feel* like we adopted that. so perhaps just clarity around that point and if folks think we need to | 20:01 |
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| pblaho | \o | 20:03 |
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| lifeless | slagle: right, and their rationale is to avoid both destabilisation and ensure bandwidth for the priorities | 20:03 |
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