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| russellb | #startmeeting nfv | 14:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 27 14:03:31 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is russellb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nfv)" | 14:03 | |
| russellb | anyone around for the nfv meeting? | 14:03 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nfv' | 14:03 |
| lukego | howdy :) | 14:03 |
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| cloudon | hi | 14:03 |
| yamahata | hello | 14:03 |
| zuqiang | hi | 14:03 |
| sean-k-mooney | hi o/ | 14:04 |
| russellb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=Teams/NFV | 14:04 |
| adrian-hoban | Howdy | 14:04 |
| imendel | hi | 14:04 |
| russellb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda | 14:04 |
| russellb | #topic review actions | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "review actions (Meeting topic: nfv)" | 14:04 | |
| russellb | 2 items were on sgordon, who sent his regrets for this week | 14:04 |
| russellb | lukego: were you able to post an update on the status of vhost-user? | 14:04 |
| lukego | pressing Send now :) | 14:04 |
| russellb | ok, great | 14:05 |
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| russellb | lukego: once it has been sent, grab the link from http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/ and we can put it in the minutes | 14:05 |
| russellb | just do #link <link> | 14:05 |
| russellb | #topic Juno release status | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Juno release status (Meeting topic: nfv)" | 14:05 | |
| russellb | feature freeze is sept 4, just a week away | 14:05 |
| russellb | there's some detailed patch status on the review dashboard: | 14:06 |
| russellb | #link http://nfv.russellbryant.net/ | 14:06 |
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| russellb | there are a few blueprints under review that look to be in good shape | 14:06 |
| russellb | those are: | 14:06 |
| russellb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack%2Fnova+topic:bp%2Fpci-passthrough-sriov,n,z | 14:06 |
| russellb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack%2Fnova+topic:bp%2Fvirt-driver-numa-placement,n,z | 14:06 |
| lukego | russellb: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/044182.html | 14:06 |
| russellb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack%2Fnova+topic:bp%2Fvif-vhostuser,n,z | 14:06 |
| lukego | (is the post about vhost-user) | 14:06 |
| russellb | #note lukego posted vhost-user status here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/044182.html | 14:06 |
| russellb | lukego: thanks! | 14:07 |
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| russellb | those mainly just need code review, but look promising | 14:07 |
| russellb | are there are others you guys would like to look at the detailed status of? | 14:07 |
| jchapman | Hey, how about this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108634/ | 14:08 |
| russellb | looking | 14:08 |
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| russellb | looks like it was blocked since not all of the code had been posted for review | 14:09 |
| russellb | got caught by the feature proposal freeze | 14:09 |
| russellb | which is basically, "all code must be up for review" | 14:09 |
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| russellb | not sure there's much we can do there | 14:10 |
| sean-k-mooney | that contradicts the wiki | 14:10 |
| russellb | which wiki? | 14:10 |
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| sean-k-mooney | #https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/FeatureProposalFreeze | 14:10 |
| russellb | which part, "New patchsets for existing code reviews are OK" ? | 14:11 |
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| sean-k-mooney | yes | 14:11 |
| russellb | that refers to revision 11 or 12 of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108634/10 for example | 14:11 |
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| russellb | iterations to fix minor issues based on code review | 14:12 |
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| russellb | not new patches in the patch series that represent chunks of the functionality | 14:12 |
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| russellb | i'll see if i can talk to someone about updating that page to clarify that | 14:12 |
| sean-k-mooney | the inital pactch set was uploaded before the proposal freeze for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116096/ | 14:12 |
| russellb | #action russellb to talk to release management to clarify text in the FeatureProposalFreeze wiki page | 14:13 |
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| sean-k-mooney | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108634/10 previously attemed to merge but required a rebase which is which are covered by the most recent patches | 14:13 |
| russellb | is the rest of the code available? could it be posted now? | 14:13 |
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| jchapman | russellb: its up now | 14:14 |
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| russellb | jchapman: i'm looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116096/ | 14:14 |
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| russellb | no patches depend on that one | 14:14 |
| russellb | are they somewhere else? | 14:14 |
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| russellb | jchapman_: connection issues? | 14:16 |
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| russellb | not sure you saw my latest comments | 14:16 |
| jchapman_ | russellb: Ye apologies for that | 14:16 |
| russellb | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nfv/2014/nfv.2014-08-27-14.03.log.txt | 14:16 |
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| russellb | hm | 14:17 |
| russellb | while waiting on that, any others worth discussing status of? | 14:17 |
| sean-k-mooney | russellb: you are correct no other patch depend on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116096/ | 14:17 |
| russellb | i'm happy to help guide an exception request if i think there's a chance | 14:17 |
| russellb | sean-k-mooney: I think the -2 is based on "This is only part of the code we have for this feature" | 14:18 |
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| sean-k-mooney | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116096/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108634/ impemnet the full feture covered by the bluepirnt | 14:19 |
| russellb | as in, more patches are expected/needed | 14:19 |
| russellb | sean-k-mooney: ok, then there was confusion this i suspect | 14:19 |
| russellb | johnthetubaguy: you around by chance? | 14:19 |
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| jchapman_ | russellb: Everything should be there now | 14:19 |
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| russellb | #action russellb to follow up with johnthetubaguy on the status of I/O based numa scheduling, as it appears code was up ahead of the freeze | 14:20 |
| russellb | i'll follow up on that | 14:20 |
| russellb | thanks for clarifying | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | russellb: hey | 14:21 |
| russellb | ohai! | 14:21 |
| jchapman_ | russellb: Thanks Russell | 14:21 |
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| russellb | johnthetubaguy: basically, couple of patches for a blueprint -2d on feature proposal freeze, but they're saying those 2 patches are the full implementation | 14:21 |
| russellb | johnthetubaguy: there's a comment ont he 2nd patch that makes it sound like there were more patches coming, but i guess that wasn't the case | 14:21 |
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| russellb | johnthetubaguy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116096/ and the one it depends on | 14:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | russellb: ah OK, it seemed like there was more to come, based on the spec, can't remember who I asked about that now | 14:22 |
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| russellb | johnthetubaguy: yeah, i was confused too | 14:22 |
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| russellb | johnthetubaguy: but the author was just saying that's all of it | 14:22 |
| sean-k-mooney | this extends work done by rehat on numa based scheduling | 14:22 |
| sean-k-mooney | s/rehat/redhat | 14:23 |
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| johnthetubaguy | russellb: OK, cool, I will restore that then, but its getting close | 14:23 |
| russellb | johnthetubaguy: agreed | 14:23 |
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| adrian-hoban | russellb: johnthetubaguy: Thanks | 14:24 |
| jchapman_ | russellb, johnthetubaguy: cheers guys | 14:24 |
| adrian-hoban | Is this other bp in a similar position: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/virt-driver-cpu-pinning | 14:24 |
| russellb | ok great! | 14:24 |
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| johnthetubaguy | just reach out to me on IRC in #openstack-nova if stuff comes up like this again, happy to help | 14:24 |
| russellb | adrian-hoban: i think that one just didn't make it ... a lot more work is left there | 14:25 |
| sean-k-mooney | johnthetubaguy: thank we will keep that in mind | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | but ideally, please mark as NeedsCodeReview once all the code is up, to save my (very bad!) guessing! | 14:25 |
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| russellb | johnthetubaguy: it's also that you're guessing with very limited time, because you're looking over a ton of them, totally understandable | 14:25 |
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| russellb | adrian-hoban: adrian-hoban_ basically their hands have been completely full on the base numa support | 14:26 |
| adrian-hoban_ | russellb: Ok, understood | 14:26 |
| russellb | more so than we expected i'd say | 14:27 |
| russellb | huge pages support is in the same boat | 14:27 |
| russellb | we thought there'd be time, but there wasn't | 14:27 |
| russellb | #topic open discussion | 14:28 |
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| russellb | anything else for today? can still bring up blueprints if you'd like | 14:28 |
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| imendel | do we want to discuss how are we doing with the initial goals of this group? | 14:29 |
| russellb | sure, have something specific in mind? | 14:30 |
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| russellb | related: | 14:30 |
| russellb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=Teams/NFV#Mission_statement | 14:30 |
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| imendel | do we feel that the dev community is inline with NFv goals? Is the perception and understanding of NFV in the community better? | 14:31 |
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| lukego | I think this group is wonderful, fwiw. | 14:32 |
| russellb | lukego: cool :) | 14:32 |
| russellb | imendel: i think we've been largely successful, though the perception in the dev community is not always positive | 14:33 |
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| russellb | there tends to be a reaction of: "Those NFV people are just trying to shove a bunch of features in" | 14:33 |
| russellb | which isn't false, necessarily ... | 14:34 |
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| russellb | need to continue to make sure we're demonstrating 1) that we've thought very hard about features and how they can be made "cloudy" | 14:34 |
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| russellb | and 2) that they're useful in general, not *only* NFV | 14:34 |
| imendel | and also they are not "cloud" and have some specific needs | 14:34 |
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| imendel | If I catch the mission statement first part "This work includes identifying functional gaps, creating blueprints", how are we doing with it in your opinion? | 14:35 |
| russellb | i think that's the part we've done best at, plenty of blueprints in flight | 14:35 |
| russellb | of course, that's really the core of what we're doing | 14:36 |
| russellb | if it doesn't result in some output (code or some type of document), then it's a useless exercise | 14:36 |
| imendel | I feel that we abandon the use case analysis and the map to the features to give context and to drive the right priorities in. Maybe I got it wrong | 14:36 |
| russellb | there was certainly much more of that earlier, when more planning was being done | 14:37 |
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| russellb | latter half of the dev cycle it's more about trying to finish executing the stuff in progress | 14:37 |
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| imendel | but lately (months maybe) we are working here on the make it done (which is good) of specific BP but nothing on the bigger context to the community. | 14:37 |
| russellb | planning needs to ramp up again soon for the next cycle | 14:37 |
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| imendel | so do the developers around are better aware and supportive now? | 14:38 |
| cloudon | russellb: +1, and output of ETSI gap analysis will be important | 14:38 |
| adrian-hoban_ | I think we really started late for Juno. Agree with russellb that we need to be ready before the next summit rather that plan work in the cycle | 14:38 |
| russellb | adrian-hoban_: makes sense | 14:38 |
| russellb | imendel: better aware? yes. better supportive? in some cases, not all | 14:39 |
| imendel | maybe it's a timing issue in Juno | 14:39 |
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| danpb | FWIW, the less we mention obscure NFV specific acryonyms like ETSI to people, the better the rest of the community will respond to/receive proposals :-) | 14:39 |
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| imendel | can you help to explain the better aware? danpb: agrre | 14:39 |
| russellb | yeah, and generally, never use "because NFV needs it" as a reason | 14:39 |
| russellb | heh | 14:40 |
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| russellb | still have to provide a full detailed justification, even if from a planning perspective, it came out of analysis of NFV use cases | 14:40 |
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| russellb | help explain better aware? i think more people have been talking about it all over, and we have a nice wiki page people can reference | 14:41 |
| imendel | do u feel the justification of the NFV use case is in a shape that drives the needs and the understandings? you are closer to the developers to judge, ... | 14:41 |
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| danpb | NFV is fine to use when illustrating example of where a feature will be used, but specs/blueprints need to explain the rationale for the features from first principals using plain terminology that any reviewer can understand | 14:42 |
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| lukego | I have also had the feedback that “other people don’t think NFV is as cool as you do” :) and that people react negatively to a pure “this is useful to NFV” pitch. (I am guilty of doing this again on my mail about vhost-user… it’s hard because NFV _is_ cool :)) | 14:42 |
| imendel | agree | 14:42 |
| adrian-hoban_ | In Hong Kong, there was little about NFV, in Atlanta there were quite a few references, and for Paris there is a dedicated Telco track. So I think awareness is certainly growing | 14:42 |
| imendel | for developers or for the market track? | 14:42 |
| danpb | eg explain the benefits that sensible NUMA placement brings to VM workloads, and then just mention that NFV is a case where it would be used | 14:43 |
| imendel | danpg: agree | 14:43 |
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| danpb | from the design summit POV, last time around we arranged an ad-hoc meeting of NFV people at the last minute | 14:43 |
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| imendel | I am just not sure we have this very convincing map... | 14:43 |
| davidmck | one thing I've thought is that there is still lacking a common understanding of the sorts of features NFV is driving and why - so it is clearer why we care about specific blueprints | 14:44 |
| adrian-hoban_ | danpb: Great point. | 14:44 |
| danpb | we need to do more to publicise this upfront this time, so we can attract more of the people from nova/neutron that are on the core teams | 14:44 |
| danpb | instead of merely attracting the people who are already interested in NFV | 14:44 |
| imendel | agree | 14:44 |
| imendel | davidmck: agree | 14:45 |
| danpb | overall I think this NFV group has been pretty successful over Juno | 14:45 |
| danpb | if we keep going it'll get even better for kIlo | 14:45 |
| imendel | do we want to prepare something for Paris? | 14:46 |
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| russellb | yes, there will a project pod area again that can be used for meetups like this | 14:46 |
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| imendel | Do we want to increase the understanding and rational for the suggested BPs? | 14:46 |
| russellb | yes? :) | 14:47 |
| russellb | if you have some specific suggestions on how to do that, that's great stuff to discuss here | 14:47 |
| imendel | shall we work on the use cases and mapping of those to the BP in a clearer way? | 14:47 |
| imendel | I think we have a good start there but we need to make it more friendly and clearer | 14:48 |
| imendel | and inline with davidmck remark | 14:49 |
| adrian-hoban_ | Pods are great, but I would like to see time allocated for NFV design sessions as well. Some project specific, some cross-project | 14:49 |
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| russellb | adrian-hoban_: sure ... the most likely sessions to get accepted are focused on specific functionality, though | 14:50 |
| russellb | imendel: can you write up a proposal for how to improve? then maybe folks could work with you to implement it? | 14:50 |
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| imendel | sure. shall I sent in the mailing list? | 14:50 |
| adrian-hoban_ | russellb: I hope we can pick some from our wiki | 14:50 |
| russellb | imendel: yeah | 14:51 |
| imendel | ok | 14:51 |
| russellb | adrian-hoban_: indeed | 14:51 |
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| russellb | ok i think we've had good coverage for today ... good discussions, thanks everyone | 14:51 |
| russellb | have a nice week! | 14:51 |
| imendel | tnx | 14:51 |
| adrian-hoban_ | Thanks folks | 14:52 |
| russellb | #endmeeting | 14:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 27 14:52:14 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nfv/2014/nfv.2014-08-27-14.03.html | 14:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nfv/2014/nfv.2014-08-27-14.03.txt | 14:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nfv/2014/nfv.2014-08-27-14.03.log.html | 14:52 |
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| Swami | pcm_:hi | 15:00 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: hi | 15:00 |
| * pcm_ lurking (and have to leave in 30 min) | 15:00 | |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: hi | 15:00 |
| pcm_ | hi | 15:01 |
| Bhooshan | swami: Hi | 15:01 |
| Swami | Bhooshan: hi | 15:01 |
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| Swami | pcm_: no problem I am planning to have this meeting a short meeting unless there is any other open discussion items. | 15:01 |
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| Swami | #startmeeting distributed_virtual_routers | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 27 15:02:02 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Swami. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'distributed_virtual_routers' | 15:02 |
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| Swami | #info Next week will be the last week for Juno | 15:02 |
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| Swami | Juno 3 milestone | 15:02 |
| Rajeev | Swami: Hi | 15:03 |
| Swami | Rajeev: hi | 15:03 |
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| Swami | So people who are working on patches for Juno make sure that it lands for review by this week, so that we will have enough time to turn around. | 15:03 |
| Swami | #topic DVR-Update | 15:03 |
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| Swami | All the required patches for DVR including the Horizon have landed upstream | 15:04 |
| Rajeev | Bhooshan: great job! | 15:04 |
| Swami | We are currently testing and fixing bugs. | 15:04 |
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| Bhooshan | Rajeev:Thank You | 15:05 |
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| Swami | Akihiro motoki and Bhooshan thanks for your contribution. | 15:05 |
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| Swami | amotoki: thanks | 15:05 |
| Bhooshan | swami:Thanks | 15:05 |
| Swami | #topic Bugs | 15:05 |
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| Bhooshan | Amotoki:Thanks | 15:05 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=l3-dvr-backlog | 15:06 |
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| Swami | All DVR related bugs are logged in the link shown above. | 15:06 |
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| Swami | There are currently two High's and they are work in progress. | 15:06 |
| Swami | Most of the other bugs have been worked out. | 15:07 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami, there is a third High. | 15:07 |
| Swami | There is one other High | 15:07 |
| Swami | Yes I got it. | 15:07 |
| carl_baldwin | bug 1358554 | 15:07 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 1358554 in neutron "test_volume_boot_pattern fails with DVR routers" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1358554 | 15:07 |
| Swami | It is the volume issue. | 15:07 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1358554 | 15:08 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: thanks for pointing it out. | 15:08 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 1358554 in neutron "test_volume_boot_pattern fails with DVR routers" [High,Confirmed] | 15:08 |
| Swami | It seems that this bug has an assignee and investigation is in progress. | 15:09 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: glad to help. I think rossella_s may have some insight. | 15:09 |
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| Swami | carl_baldwin: Did you get a chance to review the #link https://review.openstack.'org/#/c/114410/ | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | rossella_s: are you around? Are you still seeing the problem that you had yesterday with l2pop? | 15:17 |
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| Swami | carl_baldwin: Sure check with Rossella_s. | 15:17 |
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| rossella_s | carl_baldwin: yes...but I didn't have the time to check carefully. It can be due to my setup and anyway even if I get that error, everything seems working | 15:18 |
| Swami | rossella_s: thanks for the information. | 15:18 |
| Swami | So does it mean, it has be reviewed again | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | do you have a pastebin or something showing the error. maybe the DVR guys may have some insight. | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | rossella_s: ^ | 15:18 |
| rossella_s | carl_baldwin: I can create one | 15:18 |
| Swami | rossella_s: thanks | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: I have reviewed 114410 partially. Will finish reviewing today. Thanks for bringing that to my atteniton. | 15:18 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: Thanks for the information. | 15:18 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: There was one tempest test that was failing and cauing the jenkins to fail as well. "SSH to vm". | 15:18 |
| Swami | Do I need to resubmit with a recheck | 15:18 |
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| carl_baldwin | Swami: I just added a recheck note to it. | 15:18 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: thanks | 15:18 |
| rossella_s | I am about to send a fix for 1358554, in the next minute you dvr experts can review it :) | 15:18 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: Thanks for all other reviews and your time. | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | rossella_s: That’s great. We cannot thank you enough for jumping in and helping out. | 15:18 |
| Swami | Also the one other backlog item "migration" is still in progress. | 15:18 |
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| carl_baldwin | Swami: I enjoy it. :) | 15:18 |
| rossella_s | carl_baldwin: my pleasure! | 15:18 |
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| Swami | We are including a check for the FwaaS and it has some issues, once we resolve it we will push it in. | 15:18 |
| Swami | There was one other "FIP" related issue reported by mrsmith. | 15:18 |
| Swami | But I am not sure if this bug is confirmed and logged in launchpad. | 15:18 |
| mrsmith | Swami: trying to sort the FIP issue out | 15:18 |
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| Swami | mrsmith: thanks for the update | 15:18 |
| mrsmith | I can't reproduce an issue reported from an earlier build | 15:18 |
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| Swami | mrsmith: Ok, check it out and if you still see any issue please create a bug in the launchpad. | 15:18 |
| mrsmith | yup | 15:19 |
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| Swami | anything else on the bugs | 15:20 |
| viveknarasimhan | swami | 15:22 |
| Swami | viveknarasimhan: hi | 15:22 |
| viveknarasimhan | i pushed a patch set to service DHCP ports on dvr enabled nodes | 15:22 |
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| Swami | viveknarasimhan: This is related to the duplicate packets from the dhcp | 15:22 |
| viveknarasimhan | yes | 15:22 |
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| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1358718 | 15:22 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 1358718 in neutron "duplicate ping packets from dhcp namespace when pinging across DVR subnet VMs" [Medium,In progress] | 15:22 |
| Swami | ok, we will take a look at it. | 15:22 |
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| viveknarasimhan | thanks | 15:22 |
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| Swami | #topic Python-NeutronClient | 15:23 |
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| Swami | The patch for configuring the distributed routers went in yesterday. | 15:23 |
| rossella_s | carl_baldwin: sorry for interrupting anyway here is the pastebin http://paste.openstack.org/raw/101070/ | 15:23 |
| Swami | amuller: thanks for patch. | 15:23 |
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| Swami | rossella_s: thanks for the update | 15:23 |
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| rossella_s | Swami: thank you! Just another detail...I am using a single node devstack, didn't modify anything, just used stack.sh with dvr enabled | 15:25 |
| carl_baldwin | viveknarasimhan: I was wondering if you have any insight. I had never noticed this warning but I might have overlooked it. | 15:25 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: Sorry to hijack the meeting. Back to you. | 15:25 |
| Swami | rossella_s: when you mentioned "dvr" enabled, I hope that you have Q_DVR_MODE: is set to "dvr_snat". | 15:25 |
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| viveknarasimhan | i have seen it | 15:26 |
| viveknarasimhan | while running complete test suite from neutron | 15:26 |
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| viveknarasimhan | ie., the tempest suite for neutron | 15:26 |
| viveknarasimhan | i would not consider that warning to be dangerous if it doesn't entail in a subsequent failure | 15:27 |
| Swami | viveknarasimhan: can you take a look at the logs and see if it is related to DVR. | 15:27 |
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| viveknarasimhan | is there a whole log set | 15:28 |
| viveknarasimhan | i see 3 lines in the past link posted by rossella_s above | 15:28 |
| Swami | look at the link above posted by rossella_s | 15:28 |
| viveknarasimhan | i will certainly take a look to see if the warning is acceptable | 15:28 |
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| Swami | viveknarasimhan: thanks | 15:30 |
| carl_baldwin | viveknarasimhan: Swami: I don’t think it accompanied any more serious problem. | 15:30 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: yes | 15:30 |
| Swami | back to our discussion | 15:30 |
| carl_baldwin | I think what I’ll do is file a low importance bug with this information so when others come across it they have someone to go. | 15:30 |
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| viveknarasimhan | thanks carl. anyway i will take a look into the l2pop mech-driver which has thrown the warning | 15:30 |
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| Swami | There are couple of more commands on the python-neutronclient for showing snat_related routers hosted by agent and agent hosting routers. | 15:30 |
| Swami | Those will be added to the python neutronclient. | 15:31 |
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| viveknarasimhan | one more related update | 15:31 |
| Swami | I will be posting a patch for this. | 15:31 |
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| viveknarasimhan | we are introducing a new RESTful resource 'dvrhostmacs' to allow other vendor | 15:32 |
| viveknarasimhan | implementations to retrieve host to unique-dvr-mac mapping | 15:32 |
| Swami | viveknarasimhan: I don't think it is for Juno | 15:32 |
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| rkukura | I think if someone is using DVR, they have to use tunnels, and I’m not sure the existing ToR mechanism drivers would be involved. | 16:19 |
| rkukura | But we obviously want DVR to work for VLANs and hierarchical bindings eventually. | 16:20 |
| rkukura | Any other concerns on this right now? | 16:20 |
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| shivharis | rkukura: should these be documented somewhere? | 16:20 |
| fungi | you can startmeeting now, hopefully | 16:20 |
| rkukura | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:20 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 27 16:20:54 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:20 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:20 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:20 |
| rkukura | fungi: Thanks for fixing the bot! | 16:21 |
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| fungi | yw | 16:21 |
| * fungi had to move it to a different freenode server which wasn't toes-up | 16:21 | |
| rkukura | To summarize for the log, we we just discussing the DVR changes to ML2 and some things we’d like to fix between feature freeze and code freeze | 16:21 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: So, the two issues you list will play in only if DVR is configured, right? | 16:21 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: correct | 16:22 |
| rkukura | Anything else on this? | 16:22 |
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| rkukura | #topic Bugs | 16:22 |
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| rkukura | shivharis: do you want to cover this? | 16:23 |
| shivharis | Still on prev. topic, is there a bug for tracking the DVR ML2 | 16:23 |
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| rkukura | #action rkukura to enter bugs for DVR ML2 issues he’s identified | 16:23 |
| shivharis | rkukura: thanks | 16:23 |
| shivharis | there is only one high bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1359416 - amotoki? | 16:23 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 1359416 in neutron "RPC callback should not use mixin approach" [High,In progress] | 16:23 |
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| amotoki | yes. I believe it help all of us. | 16:24 |
| amotoki | The first step of l3-agent callback was merged. | 16:24 |
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| amotoki | ML2 and most plugins are affected. If there is a degrade, please let me know. | 16:25 |
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| shivharis | amotoki: what should we look for? | 16:25 |
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| amotoki | Reviews are https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bug/1359416,n,z | 16:26 |
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| Sukhdev | amotoki: Thanks for posting the link | 16:26 |
| shivharis | amotoki: thanks | 16:26 |
| amotoki | I was suggested to move RPC callback and API to api.rpc.handlers because they are no longer rleated to db operatrion. | 16:26 |
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| amotoki | that's all from me. | 16:27 |
| shivharis | Next: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113999/ | 16:27 |
| shivharis | amotoki: thx | 16:27 |
| shivharis | banix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113999/ | 16:28 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis: I reviewed this one yesterday | 16:28 |
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| Sukhdev | I listed my concern in the comments | 16:28 |
| shivharis | i guess he is not around, appears in good shape, we will need more reviewers | 16:28 |
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| Sukhdev | does anybody also share the same concern? if not, this looks good | 16:28 |
| rkukura | I have same question as Sukhdev | 16:29 |
| rkukura | Lets followup on this one on gerrit | 16:29 |
| shivharis | so will this affect merge | 16:29 |
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| shivharis | do we want to wait for full implementation? | 16:30 |
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| shivharis | rkukura: your call | 16:30 |
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| amotoki | Ideally network/subnet/port operation should be synced. at least network and port? | 16:30 |
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| rkukura | I’d like to see banix respond about whether the other resource can/should also be changed | 16:30 |
| shivharis | ok, i'll ping him offline | 16:31 |
| rkukura | Thanksk | 16:31 |
| shivharis | next: any other pressing bugs? or questions? | 16:31 |
| rkukura | Any other bugs to discuss? | 16:31 |
| rcurran | rkukura, i marked a few w/ the "ml2" tag last week - just need core reviewers | 16:32 |
| rkukura | irenab wanted me to mention https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1360762, which I’m starting to review. | 16:32 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 1360762 in neutron "Remove binding:profile modification from Mellanox ML2 driver" [Undecided,In progress] | 16:32 |
| rcurran | i'd have to find the pointers, not my bugs - cisco_nexus related | 16:32 |
| shivharis | rcurran: please add these to the agenda | 16:33 |
| rkukura | Given the feature freeze deadline next week, it probably makes sense to prioritize reviewing features over reviewing non-urgent bug fixes right now. | 16:33 |
| shivharis | i am done, lets move on | 16:33 |
| rkukura | #topic Code Reviews | 16:34 |
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| rkukura | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Tracking_ML2_Subgroup_Reviews#Under_Review | 16:34 |
| rkukura | I’d like to check the status on the non-vendor-specific BP implementations | 16:34 |
| Sukhdev | I updated this wiki yesterday - we have a good number of features merged | 16:35 |
| Sukhdev | I may have missed some - if I did, please excuse | 16:35 |
| rkukura | asomya: I believe the 2nd patch on the type driver refactor (dyanamic segments) is getting close to ready to merge, right? | 16:35 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: thanks! | 16:35 |
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| asomya | rkukura: Yes, i just pushed out another patch with fixes | 16:35 |
| Sukhdev | asomya: I saw a -1 from rkukura and hence did not review it | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | asomya: I did review the third one | 16:36 |
| rkukura | And my hierarchical port binding patches depend on asomya’s patches, so I’ve been reviewing these extensively. | 16:36 |
| asomya | sukhdev: yeah Bob and i discussed it and i've pushed out anotherone that should have all the concerns addressed | 16:36 |
| asomya | as soon as part 2 is approved, i'll rebase part 3 | 16:37 |
| amotoki | rkukura: I haven't understood why new methods in type drivers are no longer needed. | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev | asomya: cool - will review it then | 16:37 |
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| nlahouti | I would like to bring attention to extensions in ML2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89211/ | 16:38 |
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| rkukura | amotoki: asomya’s dynamic segment implementation leverages the partial spec feature, so new methods on TypeDriver aren’t needed. | 16:38 |
| rkukura | nlahouti: That’s on the list | 16:38 |
| amotoki | rkukura: ah... i got it. | 16:38 |
| rkukura | I’ve been working on the 3 hierarchical port binding patches | 16:38 |
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| Sukhdev | nlahouti: I thought you were working with Mark to get -2 removed? | 16:39 |
| rkukura | The 2nd one is the DB patch that still exposes a DB stale data issues and needs some SQL to move data in the migtration | 16:39 |
| nlahouti | Sukhdev: unfortunately not success so far. He was busy with conf. last week | 16:40 |
| rkukura | But they are functional, and once rebased on asomya’s latest, can be used by dependent patches that need hierarchical binding. | 16:40 |
| nlahouti | Sukhdev: and ping'd him today and no response so far. | 16:40 |
| Sukhdev | nlahouti: deadline next week and nova parity are the reasons :-) | 16:41 |
| rkukura | On nlahouti’s extension drivers, I think it would help to get other reviewers from the ML2 subteam to vote their opinions | 16:41 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: I have been holding off because of Mark's -2 | 16:41 |
| nlahouti | Sukhdev: what needs to be done do we need any action plan for that? | 16:41 |
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| rkukura | There has been some interesting discussion with Salvatore about eventually making some of ML2’s built-in extensions into drivers | 16:42 |
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| shivharis | i dont believe they have bought into it yet, hence the delay | 16:42 |
| rkukura | I think both nlahouti and I should continue to stalk markmcclain about removing his -2, and others should go ahead and review | 16:42 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura, asomya: I have a question for both of you on the new patches - | 16:43 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: go ahead | 16:43 |
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| nlahouti | rkukura: can I ask here in here ML2 subteam to review and give their input. | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | With these 6 patches going in, how do you plan to ensure that this does not destablize the existing core base - and impact drivers? | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | nlahouti: will do | 16:44 |
| nlahouti | Sukhdev: Thx a lot | 16:45 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: The only impact on existing drivers is in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115110/, and there is no reason to hold up on reviewing this. | 16:45 |
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| nlahouti | Sukhdev rkukura: will keep asking markmacclain for review. Hopefully he find time and review it. | 16:45 |
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| rkukura | #action nlahouti and rkukura to keep after markmclain to remove his -2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89211/, or explain why its not being removed | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: I just want to make sure there will be no last minute chaos | 16:46 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: Agreed. Both asomya and I have been trying to structure our patches incrementally, for easy review. | 16:48 |
| trinaths | Hi, joined late. | 16:48 |
| rkukura | The final hierarchical binding patch that changes the logic is quite small: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116209/ | 16:48 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: Good - I know you are doing your best and very vigilant | 16:48 |
| asomya | Sukhdev: to add to that, none of the existing type drivers are being changed in any of the patches | 16:48 |
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| Sukhdev | asomya: Good - thanks --- we just do not want a chaos in the last days of Juno :-):-) | 16:49 |
| amotoki | as far as I see, rkukura's patch tries to keep the impact minimum and existing drivers works unless it wants to support hierarchical binding | 16:50 |
| Sukhdev | Lets all review these patches ASAP and get them tested as much as possible | 16:50 |
| rkukura | amotoki: Correct. | 16:50 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: Do you have an update on external attachment points? | 16:50 |
| rkukura | Or does anyone else? | 16:51 |
| Sukhdev | amotoki: I made the same observation as well... | 16:51 |
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| rkukura | Lets not forget to review the lower priority BP implementations as well! | 16:53 |
| rkukura | Anyone want to bring up any other specific feature patches? | 16:54 |
| sadasu | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74134/14 - still looking for reviews | 16:54 |
| Sukhdev | sadasu: Are you planning on addressing the comments? | 16:55 |
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| sadasu | taken care of all commnets I have received so far...will be posting another patch in a couple of hrs | 16:55 |
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| Sukhdev | sadasu: Will review when new patch is posted | 16:55 |
| sadasu | Sukhdev: thanks! | 16:56 |
| rkukura | sadasu: Thanks - I’ll plan to review it as soon as I can | 16:56 |
| sadasu | rkukura: thanks! | 16:56 |
| Sukhdev | sadasu -1 is deterrent for me - I skip the review if I see one :-) | 16:56 |
| rkukura | Anythign else on code reviews? | 16:56 |
| sadasu | Sukhdev: agreed. ther are no major ones at this point | 16:56 |
| rkukura | #topic Open Discussion | 16:56 |
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| trinaths | when will be last date for code reviews for J-3 | 16:57 |
| rkukura | trinaths: The feature freeze is 9/4 | 16:57 |
| rkukura | bug fixes have a couple more weeks | 16:57 |
| shivharis | merge before 9/4 | 16:58 |
| trinaths | rkukura, shivharis : okay. thanks a lot | 16:58 |
| amotoki | more precisely merge by the end of Sep 4 | 16:58 |
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| trinaths | amotoki: okay. getting close to that date .. | 16:58 |
| Sukhdev | amotoki: we have a lawyer in the house :-):-) | 16:59 |
| amotoki | :-) | 16:59 |
| trinaths | Sukhdev: :-) | 16:59 |
| rkukura | Lets all make an extra affort to review the patches and get comments in ASAP so issues can be fixed and we can get everything merged! | 16:59 |
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| rkukura | Anything else? | 16:59 |
| amotoki | more interestingly timezone used is not defined :-) | 17:00 |
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| nlahouti | markmcclain: Hi mark Just talking about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89211/ can you please review it | 17:00 |
| Sukhdev | amotoki: you get few hours less, I guess - since you are ahead of us :-) | 17:00 |
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| rkukura | deadlines are based on the international date line, I think | 17:01 |
| trinaths | amotoki | 17:01 |
| rkukura | time is up | 17:01 |
| rkukura | #endmeeting | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 27 17:01:14 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-08-27-16.20.html | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-08-27-16.20.txt | 17:01 |
| rkukura | Thanks everyone! | 17:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-08-27-16.20.log.html | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | bye | 17:01 |
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| amotoki | thanks all. (good night) | 17:01 |
| trinaths | amotoki: fixed the issue at my end for CI. thanks for the catch.. | 17:01 |
| trinaths | Bye | 17:01 |
| rkukura | bye | 17:01 |
| shivharis | yew | 17:01 |
| shivharis | bye | 17:01 |
| mugsie | #startmeeting Designate | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 27 17:01:59 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:02 |
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| mugsie | hey - who is here? | 17:02 |
| eankutse | o/ | 17:02 |
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| timsim | o/ | 17:02 |
| Kiall | o/ .. still on a meeting though, will be fully here soon | 17:02 |
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| mugsie | #topic Action Items from last week | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action Items from last week (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:02 | |
| betsy | o/ | 17:02 |
| mugsie | kiall to talk to infra re SP branch... | 17:02 |
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| mugsie | actually - I will come back to kialls actions when he gets here :) | 17:03 |
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| mugsie | mugsie to fix Designate stable branch ACLs | 17:03 |
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| mugsie | that was done (not by me though - by Kiall) | 17:03 |
| mugsie | just waiting for -infra to merge it last time i checked | 17:03 |
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| mugsie | rjrjr_ to incorporate periodic sync into SP manager spec | 17:03 |
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| mugsie | not sure if he is here.... | 17:04 |
| mugsie | rjrjr: ? | 17:04 |
| richm | hello | 17:04 |
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| mugsie | ok, I will push that forward til next week | 17:04 |
| mugsie | #action rjrjr_ to incorporate periodic sync into SP manager spec | 17:04 |
| mugsie | #topic Release Status | 17:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release Status (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:05 | |
| mugsie | #link https://launchpad.net/designate/+milestone/juno-3 | 17:05 |
| mugsie | anyone have anything that looks like it might not make it? | 17:05 |
| mugsie | or thinks that should be in j-3? | 17:05 |
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| timsim | Tsig maybe? | 17:06 |
| mugsie | yeah - I was thinking that | 17:06 |
| mugsie | #action Kiall to review j-3 viablity of TSIG BPs | 17:07 |
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| vinod1 | So is the deadline Sep 3rd for j3? | 17:07 |
| mugsie | yeah, around then | 17:07 |
| mugsie | we should provide the release team with a SHA for a good commit a day or so before | 17:07 |
| timsim | If SOA does't make it in soon, AXFR might not. | 17:08 |
| vinod1 | I now see the Expected date as 2014-09-04 | 17:08 |
| mugsie | release day is the 4th | 17:08 |
| mugsie | I think there was some progress on SOA today... we might be ok | 17:08 |
| mugsie | anything else in the release? | 17:08 |
| vinod1 | There was one issue still with designate-client with the SOA | 17:09 |
| vinod1 | mugsie - any update on the tenant migration? | 17:09 |
| mugsie | i thoought that was mergeing at the moment... | 17:09 |
| mugsie | yeah - Kialls SQLA patch broke it | 17:09 |
| mugsie | :( | 17:09 |
| mugsie | so i am currnrly rebasing it | 17:09 |
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| mugsie | I should be done this week | 17:10 |
| mugsie | anything else? | 17:10 |
| vinod1 | Regarding the SOA change - http://logs.openstack.org/63/112063/4/check/gate-designate-devstack-dsvm/32e3b76 tests still fail | 17:10 |
| mugsie | #topic All mDNS responsible for all zones | 17:10 |
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| mugsie | vinod1: just intime | 17:11 |
| mugsie | :) | 17:11 |
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| mugsie | yeah - that will happen until we do a release of the client | 17:11 |
| mugsie | which we can do as soon as the update to the client lands | 17:11 |
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| vinod1 | I thought that was done today morning. So I did a recheck no bug after the client change merged | 17:12 |
| vinod1 | The error in the tests are "designate record-get: error: unrecognized arguments: bfa3ef9a-77b9-468a-b27f-a10cf825a91b 9dae29b1-7787-43d6-8c9d-b0bc6786b1ae" | 17:12 |
| mugsie | i dont think we did a release | 17:12 |
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| vinod1 | okay | 17:13 |
| betsy | My changes to the client got merged in | 17:13 |
| betsy | Are there others? | 17:13 |
| mugsie | nope, I dont think so | 17:13 |
| mugsie | i think the devstack job does pip install for the client | 17:13 |
| mugsie | so a release needs to be made for pip | 17:14 |
| betsy | I see | 17:14 |
| mugsie | I will look at it after the meeting, and check | 17:14 |
| mugsie | #action mugsie look at the client release | 17:14 |
| timsim | Cool | 17:14 |
| betsy | thx | 17:14 |
| mugsie | so, rjrjr wanted to have the discussion about the mDNS issue | 17:15 |
| mugsie | seen as he is not here, do we want to push that back? | 17:15 |
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| vinod1 | #agreed | 17:16 |
| betsy | +1 | 17:16 |
| mugsie | ok | 17:16 |
| mugsie | #topic Open Discussion | 17:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:16 | |
| mugsie | anyone have anything? | 17:16 |
| timsim | One of our summit talks got accepted \o/ | 17:17 |
| mugsie | yup :) | 17:17 |
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| mugsie | #link https://openstacksummitnovember2014paris.sched.org/event/d375ee7f87608f12d1dfb0868f0eb826 | 17:18 |
| eankutse | Cool :-) | 17:18 |
| mugsie | already 4 people signed up :) | 17:18 |
| mugsie | anything else from anyone? | 17:19 |
| timsim | Kiall might have something, but he's still on call | 17:19 |
| mugsie | I dont think he did, but if he does, we can wait till next week :) | 17:20 |
| timsim | Fair enough, we're around in the other room anyway :) | 17:21 |
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| mugsie | yup | 17:21 |
| mugsie | so, i think this is up there with one of the quickest meetings ever :) | 17:21 |
| eankutse | thank you! | 17:21 |
| mugsie | oh - I had one - who is going to Paris? | 17:21 |
| timsim | o/ | 17:21 |
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| vinod1 | o/ | 17:21 |
| mugsie | cool | 17:22 |
| mugsie | so | 17:22 |
| mugsie | #endmeeting | 17:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:22 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 27 17:22:23 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:22 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-08-27-17.01.html | 17:22 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-08-27-17.01.txt | 17:22 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-08-27-17.01.log.html | 17:22 |
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| mugsie | see you all in #openstack-dns :) | 17:22 |
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| Kiall | heh - I missed it -_- | 17:28 |
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| SlickNik | #startmeeting trove | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 27 18:00:28 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SlickNik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:00 |
| iccha | o/ | 18:00 |
| amrith | ./ | 18:00 |
| esp | o/ | 18:00 |
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| grapex | o/ | 18:00 |
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| SlickNik | Giving trove folks a couple of minutes to trickle in. | 18:01 |
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| cp16net | hola | 18:01 |
| kevinconway | o/ | 18:01 |
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| schang | o/ | 18:02 |
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| tomblank | o/ | 18:02 |
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| dougshelley66 | o/ | 18:02 |
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| SlickNik | #topic Juno-3 cut next week | 18:03 |
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| georgelorch | o/ | 18:03 |
| mattgriffin | o/ | 18:03 |
| glucas | o/ | 18:03 |
| peterstac | o/ | 18:03 |
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| SlickNik | So as all of you folks know, juno-3 is scheduled to be cut on Tuesday next week. | 18:03 |
| SlickNik | What this means that that we need to get all of our items BPs / bugs for juno-3 closed out. | 18:04 |
| SlickNik | #link https://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/juno-3 | 18:04 |
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| SlickNik | We've made some fair progress with reviews, and a lot of reviews have one +2, and are waiting on a second. | 18:04 |
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| vipul | o/ | 18:05 |
| cp16net | yeah i'll be going over as much as i can this week | 18:05 |
| amrith | I have a couple of logging changes that have no +2 ;( | 18:06 |
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| SlickNik | I've come up with a page that has a link to all the reviews for the BPs that we're prioritizing. | 18:06 |
| SlickNik | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-juno3-reviews | 18:06 |
| SlickNik | Planning to do a similar one for bugs for juno-3 | 18:06 |
| vgnbkr | o/ | 18:06 |
| grapex | SlickNik: btw, nice work on this list | 18:07 |
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| kevinconway | oh boy. i'm on the list! | 18:07 |
| amrith | nice list... | 18:07 |
| dougshelley66 | SlickNik - should things that are merged be dropped from the list? | 18:07 |
| dougshelley66 | ah beat me to that... :) | 18:07 |
| cp16net | or strike out the review | 18:08 |
| SlickNik | dougshelley66: yes, we should probably mark it as such | 18:08 |
| SlickNik | I like strike out. | 18:08 |
| SlickNik | I'll go through and do it / keep it up to date. | 18:08 |
| cp16net | nice | 18:08 |
| amrith | SlickNik, the logging audit not on the list, should it be? | 18:08 |
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| SlickNik | amrith: Is there a BP for it? | 18:08 |
| amrith | it is about 15/17 complete at this point. | 18:08 |
| amrith | there was an etherpad and a bug | 18:09 |
| amrith | don't know if there was a bp | 18:09 |
| amrith | let me check | 18:09 |
| amrith | dougshelley66, do you recall? | 18:09 |
| amrith | SlickNik, there was no BP | 18:09 |
| SlickNik | Yes, so this list is only for BPs. | 18:09 |
| dougshelley66 | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Juno-Trove-audit-logging-levels | 18:09 |
| amrith | there was this etherpad | 18:09 |
| amrith | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Juno-Trove-audit-logging-levels | 18:09 |
| amrith | ok | 18:10 |
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| amrith | thx dougshelley66 | 18:10 |
| amcrn | o/ | 18:10 |
| SlickNik | Like I said earlier, I'm working on coming up with another list for the reviews for bugs for juno-3. | 18:10 |
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| amrith | understood | 18:11 |
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| SlickNik | The crux of the issue is that no new features can be proposed after juno-3. Bugfixes can still merge between when juno-3 is cut and when the RC is proposed. | 18:11 |
| SlickNik | can be proposed = can merge* | 18:11 |
| amrith | ah | 18:11 |
| amrith | all clear now | 18:12 |
| vipul | so the oslo.rpc stuff.. does that need to merge prior to J-3? | 18:12 |
| vipul | or since it's already approved, it can merge prior to RC? | 18:12 |
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| SlickNik | vipul: ideally — although I suspect we might be able to get a FeatureFreeze exception for that, since that is something that's not a new feature that we _have_ to do. | 18:13 |
| SlickNik | that's not a new feature, and is something we _have_ to do* | 18:14 |
| kevinconway | is that an actual python error that gets thrown? | 18:14 |
| vipul | got it | 18:14 |
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| SlickNik | kevinconway: nope - but this should clarify https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Juno_Release_Schedule | 18:15 |
| kevinconway | awe, so no catch FeatureFreeze: pass ? | 18:15 |
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| grapex | kevinconway: I think my IRC client just raised a CornyJokeException | 18:16 |
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| SlickNik | Another thing to keep in mind is that the gate is going to get pretty hairy in the next couple of days, since all the projects will be trying to get their changes in. | 18:17 |
| SlickNik | So anything we can do to review early and "beat the rush" so to speak is appreciated. | 18:17 |
| grapex | SlickNik: Will do | 18:18 |
| amrith | wilco | 18:18 |
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| SlickNik | Another point of clarification. If you have any bugs that you know are not going to make it to juno-3 on the list at https://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/juno-3, please let me know so I can move it out of juno-3. | 18:19 |
| SlickNik | Thanks! | 18:19 |
| SlickNik | That's all about juno-3, keep them reviews rolling! | 18:20 |
| SlickNik | Any questions? | 18:20 |
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| SlickNik | . | 18:21 |
| SlickNik | #topic Clusters | 18:21 |
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| SlickNik | I think this was just an informational note left over from the last round. | 18:22 |
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| SlickNik | amcrn / mat-lowery: did you want to add anything else? | 18:23 |
| amcrn | SlickNik: nope, mat-lowery? | 18:23 |
| SlickNik | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Trove/Clusters-MongoDB | 18:23 |
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| mat-lowery | nothing from me | 18:23 |
| SlickNik | Reviews needed, and appreciated! | 18:24 |
| SlickNik | #topic Open Discussion | 18:24 |
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| dougshelley66 | i have 1 | 18:24 |
| SlickNik | go for it dougshelley66 | 18:25 |
| dougshelley66 | given the discussion at mid-cycle about review etiquette and the fact that we are trying to get more reviews done, seems like we should ratify (if appropriate) the proposal from amrith on review guidelines | 18:25 |
| dougshelley66 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115778/ | 18:26 |
| amrith | +1 | 18:26 |
| robertmyers | +1 | 18:26 |
| peterstac | dougshelley66 +1 | 18:26 |
| dougshelley66 | so if I add those together is that +3? | 18:27 |
| schang | +1 | 18:27 |
| peterstac | ah, so it's merged ;) | 18:27 |
| grapex | "The subject matter of the change (not the commit message) violates some well understood OpenStack procedure(s)," | 18:27 |
| amrith | save the coins, we need bills. | 18:27 |
| amrith | i.e. +2's | 18:27 |
| cp16net | jenkin's didnt like the change :-P | 18:27 |
| esmute | lol | 18:28 |
| kevinconway | where are the +/- 2 guidelines? | 18:28 |
| grapex | I wonder if this clause will lead to kind of the same stuff we're worried about, since what is and is not a well understood OS procedure can veer into opinion territory. :p | 18:28 |
| dougshelley66 | grapex, good point | 18:28 |
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| dougshelley66 | ok so we need to get the change to pass the build and then if anyone has any concerns please comment on the reveiw | 18:28 |
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| SlickNik | +1 to kevinconway's comment about adding +2, and -2 on the list to set expectations for what those mean as well. | 18:29 |
| SlickNik | for the sake of completeness. | 18:29 |
| iccha | yeah +1 | 18:29 |
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| robertmyers | SlickNik: +2 | 18:29 |
| iccha | also maybe some specifics and examples to state,ents like " * The change contains content that is demonstrably inappropriate," | 18:30 |
| amrith | ok, will address those. | 18:30 |
| iccha | thanks amrith for taking the initiative | 18:30 |
| amrith | iccha, that's a risky thing. How do I provide a list of inappropriate things (without this commit becoming inappropriate?) ;) | 18:30 |
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| kevinconway | amrith: once you update the review just +2 workflow it to show us why we need the guidelines | 18:31 |
| grapex | amrith: Just link to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npf-tENjwFU | 18:31 |
| * SlickNik wonders if he wants to click on that. | 18:31 | |
| cp16net | omg | 18:32 |
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| grapex | SlickNik: It is inappropriate | 18:32 |
| iccha | lol grapex you just violated the rule | 18:32 |
| SlickNik | lol, anything else for open discussion? | 18:32 |
| amrith | I don't usually take rides with strangers, I don't usually click on links, but when I do I certainly don't click on links that go to YouTube ;) | 18:32 |
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| SlickNik | #endmeeting | 18:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 27 18:33:17 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-08-27-18.00.html | 18:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-08-27-18.00.txt | 18:33 |
| amrith | thanks SlickNik | 18:33 |
| SlickNik | Thanks guys! | 18:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-08-27-18.00.log.html | 18:33 |
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| cp16net | thx SlickNik | 18:33 |
| grapex | Thanks SlickNik! | 18:33 |
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