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| rosmaita | anyone here for glance meeting? | 14:04 |
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| jcook | o/ | 14:05 |
| pkoniszewski | o/ | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:05 |
| ativelkov | o/ | 14:05 |
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| jokke_ | o/ | 14:05 |
| kragniz | rosmaita: lurking for it | 14:05 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: you're Mark today? | 14:05 |
| wayne__ | o/ | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: no, it was just awful quiet in here | 14:05 |
| jokke_ | ah :D | 14:06 |
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| jokke_ | someone should wake up Mark ;) | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | i think he's not back until next week | 14:06 |
| zhiyan | hi | 14:06 |
| TravT | Mark is back | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | rosemita:he is back | 14:07 |
| gokrokve | o/ | 14:07 |
| TravT | I chatted wtih him a few times this week. | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | hmmm ... anyone in the bay area who can poke him with a stick? | 14:07 |
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| jokke_ | should we just kick off? (I need to slip out at half) | 14:11 |
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| rosmaita | ok | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | #startmeeting glance | 14:11 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 28 14:11:46 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:11 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:11 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | agenda is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:12 |
| TravT | proposed agenda item 0: poke markwash with a stick. | 14:12 |
| TravT | ;-) | 14:12 |
| jcook | ^_^ | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | i wish that could be done | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | +1 | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | maybe in oslo | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk: looks like you have a bunch of agenda items | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | rosemita:yes | 14:13 |
| abhishekk | rosemita:two features, 1 restrict download and 2. use common service framework | 14:13 |
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| rosmaita | jcook: nice hint | 14:14 |
| jcook | >_> | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk: looks like you need reviews again on the restrict download? | 14:14 |
| abhishekk | yes | 14:14 |
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| abhishekk | just to have us on same page | 14:14 |
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| abhishekk | restrict download patch needs sync from oslo-incubator policy module | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | zhiyan: did you get a chance to look at the oslo-sync? | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | i noticed you were concerned about that on the fist patch | 14:15 |
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| rosmaita | first: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98737/ | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | second: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116978/ | 14:15 |
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| abhishekk | rosemita:I have a oslo-sync patch but as of now some functional and unit tests are failing on it | 14:16 |
| zhiyan | rosmaita: np. but actually i think the problem now is can we land it for download-restrict change as dependence before j-3? | 14:16 |
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| zhiyan | rosmaita: from the job result, i think the backward-compatibility issue of latest openstack.common.policy is a little heavy | 14:17 |
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| jokke_ | that does not sound good | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | so is the situation that we're dependent on something landing on oslo for J-3? | 14:18 |
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| zhiyan | so, imho, can we land #116978 first for #98737? | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | or is it mostly us at this point? | 14:18 |
| zhiyan | yes, i think it is rosmaita | 14:18 |
| zhiyan | jokke_: nod | 14:18 |
| zhiyan | abhishekk: would you mind show that change link for team? | 14:19 |
| abhishekk | zhiyan:yes | 14:19 |
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| zhiyan | abhishekk: latest policy sync change | 14:19 |
| zhiyan | abhishekk: thanks | 14:19 |
| abhishekk | https://review.openstack.org/116836 | 14:19 |
| zhiyan | but, i see the plan seems not normal | 14:19 |
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| zhiyan | most time we do sync-up then land functional change | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | This feature is really important | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | and mark has suggested to have this workaround as of now | 14:20 |
| zhiyan | or planb, just try our best for #116836, and (proabably need to) make this feature in ffe program | 14:21 |
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| jokke_ | well by the quick look the test failures seems to be that it does not find policy.json file ... so it might be easy to fix | 14:22 |
| zhiyan | abhishekk: correct. so I personally think if we can go #116978 way, and fix #116836 before k, and land it asap when k open | 14:22 |
| jokke_ | the 11836 | 14:22 |
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| abhishekk | zhiyan:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98737/ also need to be landed in J3 | 14:23 |
| zhiyan | jokke_: actually, yesterday i talked this with abhishekk. maybe abhishekk can give some updates? | 14:23 |
| abhishekk | Jokke_:in local environment only 28 tests are failing | 14:23 |
| abhishekk | jokke_:this policy.json file not found is not occuring locally | 14:24 |
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| jokke_ | abhishekk: ah ok ... I was looking the python2.7 console logs and every single failure was with: | 14:25 |
| jokke_ | ConfigFilesNotFoundError: Failed to read some config files: policy.json | 14:25 |
| abhishekk | jokke_:and my understanding is these tests are failing because policies are loading differently for property protection and normal policy.jsom | 14:25 |
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| jokke_ | abhishekk: ah ok ... might be bit more problematic then | 14:26 |
| abhishekk | jokke_:in my current environment I am running with python 2.7 only | 14:26 |
| abhishekk | yes, this feature is very important | 14:26 |
| zhiyan | anyway, if team ok, i'd like to support #116978+#98737 way as a sponsor. but, by this way, it will be great if abhishekk can make #116836 done before k open. i can help it. | 14:26 |
| abhishekk | zhiyan:yes i will definately put my heart out on this | 14:27 |
| jokke_ | If that's viable path, sounds good to me | 14:27 |
| zhiyan | iiuc flaper87 could support this as well | 14:27 |
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| abhishekk | yes | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | ok, do we need to put dates on this help? | 14:27 |
| zhiyan | abhishekk: thanks | 14:27 |
| jokke_ | he might be bit busy renaming glance.store :P | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | ff is sept 4, i think? | 14:27 |
| abhishekk | zhiyan:thak you | 14:27 |
| abhishekk | yes | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk: zhiyan: do you have time to work on this today? | 14:28 |
| zhiyan | jokke_: already done :) | 14:28 |
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| zhiyan | rosmaita: sorry what work? | 14:29 |
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| jokke_ | zhiyan: ah cool | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | zhiyan: to help the test pass so patch can land | 14:29 |
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| zhiyan | rosmaita: hmm, #116836? | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | zhiyan: or was that not what you were volunteering help for? | 14:29 |
| zhiyan | rosmaita: probably needs some dig | 14:30 |
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| abhishekk | rosemita:yes I am already digging it | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | zhiyan: ok, to be clear, you are sponsoring the workaround for now, but will help get the non-workaround landed before K | 14:30 |
| zhiyan | rosmaita: sorry for confusing, but i'm saying: i'd like to support #116978+#98737 way as a sponsor. but, by this way, it will be great if abhishekk can make #116836 done before k open. i can help it. | 14:30 |
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| zhiyan | rosmaita: yep | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | ok | 14:30 |
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| rosmaita | sounds good to me, any objections? | 14:31 |
| zhiyan | rosmaita: #116978 workaround | 14:31 |
| jokke_ | can I steal 2min before runing for logging? (Sorry for jumping in between) | 14:31 |
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| rosmaita | jokke_: sure | 14:31 |
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| rosmaita | zhiyan: can you talk to mark about this? your approach sounds OK, but he needs to approve | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | There is 2 changes from me and one from Christian I'd like to see landing | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | raising levels https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116626/ | 14:32 |
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| jokke_ | moving to i18n https://review.openstack.org/117204 | 14:32 |
| zhiyan | rosmaita: sure | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | Related work by Christian that would be great to see landing as well https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95662/ | 14:33 |
| jokke_ | that would be closing https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/refactoring-glance-logging | 14:33 |
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| jokke_ | So reviews are really welcome and ping me if any questions | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | rosemita, zhiyan, jokke_:thank you | 14:33 |
| jokke_ | I'll be available on IRC most of the time | 14:33 |
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| jokke_ | abhishekk: I'll try to have a look if I can help with that as well | 14:34 |
| abhishekk | jokke_:thank you :) | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | #action reviews on jokke_'s patches mentioned in the agenda | 14:34 |
| zhiyan | jokke_: when i last review 116626 , it overall looks good to me | 14:34 |
| jokke_ | gr8 | 14:35 |
| zhiyan | jokke_: but probably you can put these two link to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/j3-glance-patches | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | #action zhi to talk to mark about whether his sponsorship plan for abhishekk's patches is ok | 14:35 |
| jokke_ | zhiyan: sure | 14:35 |
| TravT | jokke_: thanks for reviews on the metadefs! | 14:35 |
| jokke_ | TravT: NP glad to help | 14:35 |
| jokke_ | need to go now ... thanks guys and give me a ping if something is needed. | 14:36 |
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| rosmaita | abhishekk: the common service framework is you, too, right? | 14:36 |
| zhiyan | TravT: did you notice main ;) | 14:37 |
| abhishekk | rosemita:yes | 14:37 |
| zhiyan | mine* | 14:37 |
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| abhishekk | rosemita:I have submitted the patches for review | 14:37 |
| zhiyan | but imo, it needs more discussion with pkoniszewski | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk: do you need discussion here, or just a call for reviews? | 14:38 |
| abhishekk | rosemita:I need reviews for this patches as welll | 14:38 |
| TravT | zhiyan: Yes! Thanks... was waiting for our agenda topic to thank you, but with jokke leaving wanted to say thanks before he dropped. | 14:38 |
| abhishekk | rosemita:this feature is also important for us | 14:38 |
| zhiyan | TravT: confused my point ;) | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | zhiyan: say more about what discussion is needed | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | zhiyan: you are talking about the common service framework, right? | 14:39 |
| zhiyan | about metadata def one? | 14:39 |
| zhiyan | rosmaita: ok, for this | 14:39 |
| zhiyan | rosmaita: i believe stuart has some great inputs on it | 14:40 |
| abhishekk | rosemita:yes, I have addressed his comments | 14:40 |
| zhiyan | abhishekk: did you addressed that stuff? (but probably needs some update form you) | 14:40 |
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| abhishekk | zhiyan:yes, I have addressed that stuff | 14:40 |
| abhishekk | currently analyzing why jenkins is failing on this | 14:41 |
| abhishekk | rosemita:for this feature I have addressed all concerns raised by mark | 14:41 |
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| abhishekk | rosemita, zhiyan: mark is ok to remove use of default eventlet hub choice option | 14:42 |
| zhiyan | abhishekk: yes noticed from irc | 14:42 |
| abhishekk | zhiyan:so this patch is also good to go, but needs quick reviews | 14:42 |
| zhiyan | abhishekk: so, anyway, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117135/ is good to go right? | 14:42 |
| abhishekk | yes | 14:42 |
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| rosmaita | second: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116978/ ASAP | 14:43 |
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| abhishekk | rosemita:yes | 14:43 |
| zhiyan | abhishekk: frankly, i'm a little worried if we can cover https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117191/ in j-3 | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | zhiyan: what problems do you see | 14:44 |
| abhishekk | zhiyan:I have almost covered every thing | 14:44 |
| abhishekk | zhiyan:testing for http, https etc all I have covered | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | #action all reviewers please look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117135/ ASAP | 14:45 |
| zhiyan | rosmaita: currently i see the functional code needs more review | 14:45 |
| zhiyan | rosmaita: and test cases are still failing | 14:45 |
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| zhiyan | rosmaita: so it's really tight for j-3 | 14:45 |
| abhishekk | zhiyan:I will take care of that ASAP | 14:45 |
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| zhiyan | abhishekk: thanks | 14:46 |
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| abhishekk | zhiyan, rosemita:till then I need reviews on the coding part | 14:46 |
| abhishekk | so that I can also address them | 14:46 |
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| abhishekk | any suggestions? | 14:48 |
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| rosmaita | abhishekk: not really, just that if you can get the tests to pass, people will be more likely to prioritize looking at the code part | 14:49 |
| zhiyan | abhishekk: frankly i'd like to help, but now i'm not sure i have time to cover that. sorry | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | but i think we all iunderstand that these patches are a priority for you | 14:49 |
| zhiyan | rosmaita: agreed | 14:49 |
| abhishekk | rosemita:I will cover that on that top priority | 14:49 |
| abhishekk | rosemita:tahnk you | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | cool, feel free to send a note the the ML when they are fixed to remind people to look | 14:50 |
| abhishekk | rosemita:surely :) | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | ok, TravT | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | you have the last item | 14:50 |
| zhiyan | abhishekk: again, don't forget https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/j3-glance-patches | 14:50 |
| TravT | ok | 14:51 |
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| TravT | re: metadefs... | 14:51 |
| TravT | we've got a script at the bottom of #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/j3-glance-patches | 14:51 |
| TravT | this will pull all glance, glance client, and horizon patches onto a fresh devstack. so you can try out. | 14:51 |
| abhishekk | zhiyan:i will not | 14:51 |
| TravT | been getting some reviews.. (thanks!) | 14:51 |
| TravT | in addition to Glance, we've got 4 patches that we're going through core reviews on horizon, but they have no chance to land without getting glance and glance client release. | 14:51 |
| dulek | Notice the git reset --hard in the script! | 14:51 |
| TravT | YES, notice that! | 14:52 |
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| TravT | please take care when using it. I suggest snapshotting | 14:52 |
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| TravT | at this point, can we get a check on external API and cli interaction and then we'll fix internal code issues post merge? | 14:52 |
| TravT | i'm pretty sure i'm going to be begging for a horizon exception | 14:53 |
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| TravT | but will have low luck on that if we don't at least have glance code merging. | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | that sounds reasonable because we are really tight for time, but that's something mark will have to OK | 14:53 |
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| TravT | yeah, was hoping for him to be here... (where's that poking stick - :) | 14:54 |
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| zhiyan | I will re-view api patch tomorrow | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | TravT: that script is a good idea, thanks for putting that together | 14:55 |
| TravT | zhiyan: Thank you! | 14:55 |
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| TravT | markwash and I chatted yesterday. he was getting everything set up | 14:55 |
| TravT | was going to review CLI | 14:55 |
| zhiyan | TravT: thanks for working on this. | 14:55 |
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| TravT | if you get any issues with script let me know! | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | ok, so with markwash and zhiyan , sounds like cli and api are covered | 14:56 |
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| zhiyan | iirc, arnaud review metadef as well | 14:56 |
| TravT | yesterday, there was about a 20 minute period while it wouldn't have worked, because of updating the chain of dependencies in gerrit | 14:56 |
| dulek | Noone looked at CLI patch (https://review.openstack.org/105231) yet, so if someone can cover this item also i would be great. | 14:56 |
| zhiyan | not sure if he has some input... | 14:56 |
| TravT | arnaud has given a fe comments. | 14:56 |
| zhiyan | yep, i mean newer ones | 14:57 |
| TravT | well, we're not going anywhere after FF, so def open to fixes post merge | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | #action the cli patch needs some eyes: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/j3-glance-patches | 14:57 |
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| rosmaita | TravT: that sounds like standard openstack practice | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | open discussion? any items? | 14:58 |
| TravT | rosmaita: thanks! | 14:58 |
| zhiyan | may i have one? | 14:58 |
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| rosmaita | zhiyan: go ahead | 14:59 |
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| zhiyan | could we talk a look on https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1316234 due to it on the j-3 list | 14:59 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 1316234 in glance "Image delete calls slow due to synchronous wait on backend store delete" [Undecided,New] | 14:59 |
| zhiyan | but i'm not sure it's a bug for us? | 14:59 |
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| zhiyan | we can talk it more in team irc room | 15:00 |
| zhiyan | times up | 15:00 |
| abhishekk | thank you all | 15:00 |
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| rosmaita | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 28 15:00:37 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-08-28-14.11.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-08-28-14.11.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-08-28-14.11.log.html | 15:00 |
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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 28 15:01:02 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:01 |
| bswartz | hello all | 15:01 |
| cknight | Hi | 15:01 |
| xyang1 | hi | 15:01 |
| rushil | hi | 15:01 |
| vponomaryov | hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | who do we have? | 15:01 |
| scottda | hi | 15:01 |
| vvechkanov | hi | 15:01 |
| ameade_ | o/ | 15:01 |
| rraja | hi | 15:01 |
| csaba | hi | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | awesome | 15:01 |
| lgreg_ | hey | 15:01 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:01 |
| bswartz | #topic incubation | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "incubation (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:02 | |
| bswartz | so for those of you who don't know, manila is an incubated project now! | 15:02 |
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| bswartz | our application was approved at this tuesday's TC meeting | 15:02 |
| xyang1 | wonderful! | 15:02 |
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| bswartz | this will mean some practical changes, but mostly during the kilo timeframe | 15:03 |
| bswartz | for juno we need to continue to finish up the release | 15:03 |
| bswartz | the most immediate benefit of incubation is that I think we will get some official time on the schedule at the design summit | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | I'm not sure how much yet | 15:04 |
| bswartz | during kilo, we'll move our code from stackforge to openstack | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | and we'll integrate with devstack, tempest, and horizon properly | 15:05 |
| bswartz | any questions about incubation? | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | I'll share more when I know more | 15:06 |
| xyang1 | Is 9/4 the deadline for patches to be merged in Juno? | 15:06 |
| bswartz | hopefully some of you will be able to dedicate more time now that you can tell your bosses manila isn't some science project anymore | 15:07 |
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| bswartz | 9/3 is the deadline | 15:07 |
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| bswartz | on 9/4 we release juno-3 | 15:07 |
| xyang1 | ok | 15:07 |
| bswartz | okay we'll move on to | 15:08 |
| bswartz | #topic dev status | 15:08 |
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| vponomaryov | Dev status for last week: | 15:08 |
| vponomaryov | 1) Manila now uses 'alembic' for db migrations instead of 'sqlalchemy-migrate'. | 15:08 |
| vponomaryov | 2) service_instance module now allows to switch service instance to tenant net in two ways. | 15:08 |
| vponomaryov | 3) Multiple bug fixies for generic and netapp cmode drivers. | 15:08 |
| vponomaryov | 4) NetApp 7-mode driver was removed as obsolete. | 15:08 |
| vponomaryov | 5) Add support to use default share-network by multitenant drivers | 15:08 |
| vponomaryov | bp: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/default-network-for-multitenant-drivers | 15:08 |
| vponomaryov | gerrit: #link https://review.openstack.org/114258 | 15:08 |
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| vponomaryov | that's the main | 15:09 |
| bswartz | ooh the patch is up | 15:09 |
| bswartz | looks like jenkins is still chewing on it | 15:09 |
| bswartz | we can talk about that last one a bit more | 15:10 |
| vponomaryov | it is next topic | 15:11 |
| bswartz | I'm not convinced it will get enough soak time before the release | 15:11 |
| vponomaryov | any questions about 1-4? | 15:11 |
| bswartz | I still want to try to get it in, but that will require us all to reach agreement pretty fast | 15:11 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: yeah, there are open items for it in agenda | 15:12 |
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| bswartz | okay if no questions, then | 15:12 |
| bswartz | #topic Discuss blueprint "Add support to use default network by multitenant driver" | 15:12 |
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| bswartz | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/default-network-for-multitenant-drivers | 15:13 |
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| bswartz | vvechkanov: ? | 15:13 |
| vvechkanov | I have several question about this change, they are in agenda and I'll copy them here. | 15:13 |
| vvechkanov | 1) Do we need option in config for turn on/off auto creation default share network? | 15:13 |
| vponomaryov | or ask drivers for it | 15:14 |
| bswartz | to answer that question I think we have to define the behaviour if it's off | 15:14 |
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| vvechkanov | It will work as without my changes | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | I'm not sure the current behavior is something we want to preserve though | 15:15 |
| vvechkanov | If it is turned off. This will be smth necessary for single tenant drivers | 15:15 |
| bswartz | the whole idea here is to improve the default behavior | 15:15 |
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| bswartz | I suppose there's a question of whether anyone is relying on the current behavior | 15:16 |
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| bswartz | I'm hoping that everyone is using share networks explicitly | 15:16 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: question is a little bit different, should we create default share-net if it won't be used? | 15:17 |
| bswartz | my vote is for: don't give an option to turn it off | 15:17 |
| vvechkanov | My changes will work for singletenant drivers. But they do not need share-net. | 15:17 |
| vvechkanov | And in my changes whar-net will be created. | 15:17 |
| vvechkanov | s/whar-net/share-net | 15:17 |
| bswartz | so people who explicitly specify share networks will not be affected | 15:18 |
| xyang1 | I'm not quite clear on what impact this will have on single tenant driver | 15:19 |
| vvechkanov | bswartz, Yes | 15:19 |
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| bswartz | I think our goal needs to be to give the admin control over how to handle requests with no share network | 15:19 |
| bswartz | turning this new feature on/off doesn't help there | 15:19 |
| vponomaryov | xyang1: nohow, just redundant actions | 15:19 |
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| bswartz | okay we need to stop using the term "single tenant driver" and use the more accurate term "flat network driver" | 15:19 |
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| bswartz | because I think it confuses us and people reading these logs | 15:20 |
| bswartz | you have have multiple tenants on a flat network | 15:20 |
| xyang1 | ok, we need to clean up docs and docstring/comments in the code too | 15:20 |
| bswartz | you can* have | 15:20 |
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| vponomaryov | xyang1: what do you mean by clean up? | 15:21 |
| vponomaryov | xyang1: what's wrong with it? | 15:21 |
| bswartz | maybe she's referring to the EMC driver doc strings? | 15:21 |
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| xyang1 | vponomaryov: this is regarding Ben's comments to use "flat network driver | 15:21 |
| vponomaryov | xyang1: oh | 15:21 |
| xyang1 | no, EMC's VNX driver supports multitenancy | 15:22 |
| bswartz | ok | 15:22 |
| xyang1 | I remember seeing docstring on single tenant driver somewhere, maybe glusterfs driver? | 15:22 |
| bswartz | vvechkanov: I don't hear any disagreement with no allowing disabling it | 15:22 |
| bswartz | vvechkanov: next question? | 15:22 |
| vvechkanov | So as I understand we prefer to create share-net when it's not doing anything. It will not affect anything, it is just unnecessary action. | 15:22 |
| vvechkanov | Ok, next question. | 15:23 |
| rraja | xyang1: you're right. | 15:23 |
| vvechkanov | Do we need option in config for choosing name of default share network? | 15:23 |
| bswartz | vvechkanov: do you have a use case in mind? | 15:23 |
| bswartz | vvechkanov: it will be referred to by ID in all the API calls -- the string is just a convenience thing for admins and users | 15:23 |
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| bswartz | are you thinking that the name should be internationalizable for non-english speakers? | 15:24 |
| vvechkanov | No. It will be referred by name. | 15:24 |
| vvechkanov | The problem is that administrator can create this default share-net manually. So we should refer it by name. | 15:25 |
| bswartz | so my understanding is that it will be used when you *don't* specify a name | 15:25 |
| vvechkanov | We have default share network in service tenant. | 15:25 |
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| vvechkanov | It can be created manually or if not thenautomatically | 15:26 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: we do not specify asusers, but admin can create it manually | 15:26 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: in service tenant, and it will be used | 15:26 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: or better to say, manually created - first priority, then autocreation | 15:27 |
| vvechkanov | The name of this default share net should be specified somewhere. Hardcoded in the code. Or as option in config file. | 15:27 |
| bswartz | but when will it be autocreated? | 15:27 |
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| bswartz | if it's created first thing when manila starts up then the admin won't get a chance to create it manually | 15:27 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: on share creation call | 15:27 |
| bswartz | I feel weird about waiting for the first share creation to create it | 15:28 |
| vvechkanov | bswartz: on share creation call, with not specified share-net | 15:28 |
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| bswartz | I like the idea of it being clearly defined right up front | 15:28 |
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| bswartz | otherwise I see race conditions | 15:28 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: wait? it is db record | 15:28 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: other stuff - as usual | 15:29 |
| bswartz | why can't we put all of the definition that's needed for the default network into the conf file | 15:29 |
| bswartz | and make it created immediately upon startup? | 15:29 |
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| vponomaryov | in case we want use security services - it is to much opts | 15:29 |
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| vponomaryov | so, admin would want create manually if sec services are used | 15:30 |
| vponomaryov | ^ for example | 15:30 |
| bswartz | can we not create it automatically and allow the admin to modify the one that's created as long as nobody is using it? | 15:30 |
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| vponomaryov | possibility to update will be common behaviour | 15:31 |
| vponomaryov | if share server present - restrict update of its data | 15:31 |
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| vponomaryov | its - default share-network | 15:31 |
| bswartz | okay well we're getting off track | 15:31 |
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| bswartz | the question about about modifying the name | 15:31 |
| bswartz | and I see no harm in allowing it | 15:32 |
| bswartz | we allow names to be modified on other share networks | 15:32 |
| vponomaryov | modifying name of share-net that will be used, not name of share-name itself | 15:32 |
| bswartz | OH | 15:32 |
| bswartz | so you mean we could have default1 and default2 | 15:33 |
| bswartz | and you could switch back and forth now and then? | 15:33 |
| vponomaryov | I mean we can call it with config "my_cool_share_net" instead of hardcoded "default". | 15:33 |
| vponomaryov | ^ for example | 15:33 |
| vvechkanov | But we will have only one default share-net | 15:34 |
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| bswartz | yeah my concern there is how confusing it would be to actually change it once people start using a default | 15:34 |
| vponomaryov | default name or default in general? | 15:34 |
| bswartz | any mechanism that allows the admin to switch which network is treated as the default seems like a bad idea | 15:35 |
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| bswartz | if the admin needs to switch the default network then we need to consider how to enable that use case very carefully | 15:35 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: it won't make harm | 15:35 |
| bswartz | maybe limitted modifications to the default should be allowed | 15:35 |
| bswartz | but switching to a whole new network I don't like | 15:35 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: we can allow it | 15:36 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: do it or not - choose of admin | 15:36 |
| vvechkanov | bswartz: The only thing new options will do is name default share-net not "default" but "some-name-I-prefer" | 15:36 |
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| vponomaryov | vvechkanov: yes, but opt means we can change it everytime | 15:36 |
| bswartz | so my proposal for that, is to internally refer to the default by ID only | 15:36 |
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| bswartz | and allow the admin to rename the network referred to by that ID | 15:37 |
| rushil | bswartz: +1 | 15:37 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: better not use IDs via configuration | 15:37 |
| bswartz | I know it's ugly but it's the only way to avoid the problems I see | 15:38 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: we can "hardcode" name | 15:38 |
| vponomaryov | and there will be used only one | 15:38 |
| vponomaryov | if its name unchanged | 15:38 |
| bswartz | hardcoding the name makes it impossible to rename it though | 15:38 |
| vvechkanov | And hardcoded name looks better than use id in configure | 15:38 |
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| scottda | But hardcoded name might conflict with another share net name created later | 15:38 |
| scottda | UUID must be unique, name does not have to be unique | 15:39 |
| vponomaryov | scottda: default one will be stored in service tenant | 15:39 |
| vvechkanov | This share-net created in special service tenant. Thay will not conflict | 15:39 |
| bswartz | okay I think there's still a lot of misunderstanding about this feature | 15:40 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz; we also specify neutron net and subnet "name"s via config, not its IDs | 15:40 |
| bswartz | and I'm not sure we're going to resolve it in 20 minutes | 15:40 |
| xyang1 | I think we should rely on uuid, not name | 15:40 |
| rushil | I feel the same | 15:40 |
| bswartz | yeah I'm unconfortable with names when all of these things are renamable | 15:40 |
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| vponomaryov | xyang1, bswartz: when we start Manila first - there are no UUIDs yet | 15:41 |
| bswartz | if a rename operation in neutron breaks us, that's kind of lame | 15:41 |
| xyang1 | names are not unique | 15:41 |
| vponomaryov | xyang1, bswartz: and we can not guess it | 15:41 |
| bswartz | yeah I see that problem too vponomaryov | 15:41 |
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| bswartz | I'm sure other projects have solved similar problems | 15:42 |
| bswartz | and I KNOW I've seen UUIDs in config files before | 15:42 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: yes, "booking" of IDs | 15:42 |
| bswartz | it's not pretty but it's more reliable | 15:42 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: but it should be really UUID valid | 15:42 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: some value, that will be used as UUID and not generated automatically | 15:43 |
| bswartz | does anyone see a problem with letting the admin pick the UUID to use for the default share network? | 15:43 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: mentioned one is big problem - absense of it on first start | 15:44 |
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| bswartz | they can always just run 'apt-get -y install uuid-runtime && uuidgen' | 15:45 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: it will be absent in Manila | 15:45 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: are we on the same page? | 15:46 |
| scottda | It seems better to have code generate UUID. There is not guarantee that what an admin picks is actually unique | 15:46 |
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| bswartz | manila can create it if the admin specifies it | 15:46 |
| vponomaryov | scottda: in that case it is not generated on config option set step | 15:46 |
| bswartz | scottda: we can check for uniqueness of passed in values | 15:46 |
| scottda | true | 15:46 |
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| bswartz | well I know this much -- I prefer hardcoding something to allowing the admin to specify a name | 15:47 |
| bswartz | I recognize the downsides of putting UUIDs in config files | 15:47 |
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| bswartz | maybe this needs to be handled with an API | 15:48 |
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| vvechkanov | Ok, lets use automatically created share-network with harcoded name. | 15:48 |
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| bswartz | we could simply disable the "default" share-network until the admin sets it up using a special admin API | 15:48 |
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| bswartz | or perhaps and admin-only flag on the existing share-network-create API | 15:49 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: if we hardcode name, that can be changed only by admin, this should be OK, is not it? | 15:49 |
| bswartz | s/and/an/ | 15:49 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: if share-net in service tenant is not changed, then no problem. And access to change it has only admin | 15:50 |
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| bswartz | so I'm confused about the relationship of this network to the service tenant | 15:51 |
| bswartz | but that's another topic | 15:51 |
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| bswartz | okay last question | 15:51 |
| bswartz | 3. What behavior expected for single tenant driver, where share network is not necessary? | 15:51 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: default "share-network", that will be in "service" project and used by "users" in their projects (tenants) | 15:52 |
| vvechkanov | Oh this question was already discussed I think | 15:52 |
| bswartz | let's rewrite that to | 15:52 |
| bswartz | What behavior is expected for flat network driver, where share network is not necessary? | 15:52 |
| vvechkanov | It was discussed as part of the first one. | 15:52 |
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| bswartz | okay | 15:53 |
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| bswartz | flat network drivers are going to ignore any share networks that are passed in | 15:53 |
| vvechkanov | Yes | 15:53 |
| vvechkanov | exactly. | 15:53 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: main concern - do not make redundant actions | 15:53 |
| bswartz | okay so we're good on that topic | 15:53 |
| vvechkanov | We will just create it and it will be ignored. It's better because we not create any options. | 15:54 |
| bswartz | okay so I wan the community's opinion here | 15:54 |
| bswartz | are we confortable with adding this default share network feature this late in J-3? | 15:54 |
| bswartz | or should we aim for K-1? | 15:54 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: looks like better to postpone it | 15:55 |
| bswartz | personally I'd like a chance to experiment with it myself | 15:55 |
| lgreg_ | K-1, to ensure well thought out and executed… | 15:55 |
| lgreg_ | But, still have it available for us to experiment….. | 15:55 |
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| bswartz | well my proposal is, let's finish this feature, and put the completed code on gerrit so people can download it and try it out | 15:56 |
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| bswartz | then in Paris we can have a talk about manila networking | 15:56 |
| bswartz | and demonstrate this functionality | 15:56 |
| rushil | K-1 seems the better option to me as well | 15:56 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: code is secondary, we need "agreement" on feature details | 15:57 |
| scottda | +1 to K-1 | 15:57 |
| bswartz | In fact the merge window for K-1 will open up a few weeks before Paris so it could even be upstream by then | 15:57 |
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| vvechkanov | vponomaryov: Agreement will be after experiments with code | 15:57 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: I agree in principle, but often code communicates more clearly than words | 15:57 |
| bswartz | some people just need to try it out and see how it works rather than read a document | 15:58 |
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| scottda | Testing the code will also expose any issues, even if they are just around usability | 15:58 |
| bswartz | I feel like if we merge it in K-1 then we can go back and tinker with the design if needed | 15:58 |
| vvechkanov | It is easier to discuss when everyone try it and understand how its work/ | 15:58 |
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| bswartz | if we merge it now then it will be released with Juno and we'll be stuck with it | 15:59 |
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| bswartz | okay we're almost out of time | 15:59 |
| bswartz | any last things? | 15:59 |
| vponomaryov | csaba; do you have any new with cirros image? | 15:59 |
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| bswartz | sorry I didn't save time for open discussion (I meant to) | 15:59 |
| vponomaryov | s/new/news/ | 15:59 |
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| bswartz | I've been tinkering with the cirros image myself | 16:00 |
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| csaba | vponomaryov: not now | 16:00 |
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| bswartz | I actually have my own version of it that's not based on cirros but pulls from csaba's code | 16:00 |
| csaba | I'm busy with getting some stuff done till codefreeze | 16:00 |
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| albs | Hello | 16:00 |
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| bswartz | okay we're getting kicked out | 16:00 |
| bswartz | thanks all | 16:00 |
| ameade_ | bye! | 16:01 |
| mihgen | sorry folks, fuel time ) | 16:01 |
| mihgen | hi all) | 16:01 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 28 16:01:17 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| rushil | bye | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-08-28-15.01.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-08-28-15.01.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-08-28-15.01.log.html | 16:01 |
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| rvyalov | hi | 16:01 |
| xarses | hi dr nick | 16:01 |
| evgeniyl | hi | 16:01 |
| akislitsky_ | hi | 16:01 |
| aglarendil | hi everyone | 16:01 |
| meow-nofer__ | hi | 16:01 |
| bswartz | sorry for running long fuel guys | 16:01 |
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| akasatkin | hi | 16:01 |
| aglarendil | #startmeeting fuel | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 28 16:01:46 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is aglarendil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: fuel)" | 16:01 | |
| mihgen | bswartz: np | 16:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:01 |
| aglarendil | Hi everyone | 16:01 |
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| mihgen | hi fuelers | 16:02 |
| aglarendil | We have the only topic in the agenda today | 16:02 |
| dpyzhov | hi | 16:02 |
| salmon_ | hi hi | 16:02 |
| aglarendil | #topic 5.1 & 5.0.2 bugs | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "5.1 & 5.0.2 bugs (Meeting topic: fuel)" | 16:02 | |
| aglarendil | We are really close to calling code freeze | 16:02 |
| aglarendil | we still have some bugs yet | 16:02 |
| dpyzhov | aglarendil: we have a chance to fit into one hour =) | 16:02 |
| aglarendil | 5.1 bugs are: | 16:03 |
| mihgen | yep folks, let's see what is left | 16:03 |
| aglarendil | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1361541 | 16:03 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 1361541 in fuel "Neutron db isn't migrated during HA cluster deployment" [Critical,In progress] | 16:03 |
| aglarendil | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1340657 | 16:03 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 1340657 in fuel "[library] 'keystone' delays lead to unstable MOS operations" [High,In progress] | 16:03 |
| aglarendil | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1359773 | 16:03 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 1359773 in fuel "zabbix deployment error when default password is changed" [High,In progress] | 16:03 |
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| aglarendil | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1355079 | 16:03 |
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| aglarendil | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1356278 | 16:04 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 1356278 in fuel "Ceph node does not back online after cold restart" [High,Confirmed] | 16:04 |
| aglarendil | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1355758 | 16:04 |
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| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 1355758 in fuel "[neutron] ha neutron gre : puppet failed to restart neutron api" [High,Confirmed] | 16:04 |
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| aglarendil | almost all of them have fixes on review except Keystone Memcached bug | 16:04 |
| aglarendil | evgeniyl: dpyzhov to you have anything to add ? | 16:05 |
| mihgen | what's the latest satus on memcached bug? | 16:05 |
| mihgen | I'll have something to add, no worries ) | 16:05 |
| mihgen | dmitryme: ^^ ? | 16:05 |
| nurla | dmitryme: ^^ | 16:05 |
| nurla | oops | 16:05 |
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| mihgen | before we get response from dmitryme, let's take a look at this new bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1362641 | 16:06 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 1362641 in fuel "Error "Unable to establish connection to http" using user/pass credentials with cli client from a remote machine" [Undecided,New] | 16:06 |
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| nurla | https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1362685 | 16:06 |
| mihgen | it was a bit discussed in #fuel-dev today | 16:06 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 1362685 in fuel "Fuel Master 5.1 upgrade fails due to unexpected docker issues" [Medium,In progress] | 16:06 |
| dmitryme | mihgen: re memcache bug: we have hope that we’ve found a cure for both issues with memcache. We are going to test it tomorrow | 16:07 |
| evgeniyl | aglarendil: I have nothing to add, today were merged several patches from mattymo to address last major problems with upgrades | 16:07 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: do you have any info from evg on that keystone endpoints bug? | 16:07 |
| mihgen | dmitryme: ok.. | 16:07 |
| aglarendil | mihgen: was that really a bug? | 16:07 |
| mihgen | dmitryme: this is critical, correct? | 16:07 |
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| mihgen | aglarendil: it seems like a bug. Let | 16:07 |
| aglarendil | mihgen: may be I missed it, but it should not be high or citical | 16:07 |
| aglarendil | mihgen: so I did not pay attention to it | 16:08 |
| mihgen | Let's triage. If it is not - we need to provide info how user should fix it | 16:08 |
| mihgen | and improve docs top | 16:08 |
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| mihgen | too* | 16:08 |
| dmitryme | mihgen: yes, absolutely. Without fixing them HA is barely useable | 16:08 |
| aglarendil | okay, that was all about 5.1 bugs, I guess | 16:08 |
| mihgen | rvyalov: do you confirm https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1362490 ? | 16:08 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 1362490 in fuel "oslo.db and oslo-utils packages for master branch" [Undecided,New] | 16:08 |
| rvyalov | mihgen: yes | 16:09 |
| rvyalov | it is master repository | 16:09 |
| mihgen | rvyalov: ok | 16:09 |
| aglarendil | mihgen: I think it is not related to 5.x | 16:09 |
| mihgen | if it's all about 5.1 in fuel project, then let's move on | 16:09 |
| rvyalov | it is only for 6.0 or buidling from openstack master | 16:10 |
| aglarendil | okay, then regarding 5.0.2 bugs | 16:10 |
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| aglarendil | we have several reviews to be merged | 16:10 |
| meow-nofer__ | rvyalov, btw, did we upgrade sqlalchemy to 0.9.4 in 5.1? | 16:10 |
| aglarendil | #link https://review.openstack.org/117500 | 16:10 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: about neutron, missed it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1361710 | 16:10 |
| aglarendil | meow-nofer__: let's discuss it later | 16:10 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 1361710 in fuel "Hangs of Neutron l3 agent" [Medium,New] | 16:10 |
| aglarendil | mihgen: let's discuss new bugs later | 16:11 |
| aglarendil | we still have 5.x topic now | 16:11 |
| rvyalov | meow-nofer__: no , only apply patch for current sqlalchemy. update movet to 6.0 | 16:11 |
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| mihgen | ok. sorry folks I have to go | 16:11 |
| aglarendil | rvyalov: meow-nofer__ let's discuss sqlalchemy a little bit later | 16:11 |
| aglarendil | so, back to 5.0.2 | 16:11 |
| aglarendil | #link https://review.openstack.org/117500 | 16:12 |
| aglarendil | this review is related to merge of proper oslo.messaging bug fix | 16:12 |
| tzn | where is rationale for that? no mention in the commit msg | 16:12 |
| aglarendil | #link https://launchpad.net/bugs/856764https://launchpad.net/bugs/856764 | 16:12 |
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| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 856764 in oslo.messaging "RabbitMQ connections lack heartbeat or TCP keepalives" [Critical,In progress] | 16:12 |
| aglarendil | tzn: there was a temporary workaround that required a cron job to cleanup bare connections in rabbitmq | 16:13 |
| aglarendil | tzn: with newer oslo.messaging fix this commit is not needed | 16:13 |
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| tzn | ok, got it | 16:13 |
| angdraug | there's nothing in the bug 856764 comments that explains any of that | 16:14 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 856764 in oslo.messaging "RabbitMQ connections lack heartbeat or TCP keepalives" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/856764 | 16:14 |
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| aglarendil | angdraug: let me find MOS-related one | 16:14 |
| angdraug | if there's a mos bug where current status is properly explained, | 16:14 |
| angdraug | at the very list it should be referenced from this revert commit | 16:14 |
| aglarendil | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/mos/+bug/1341656 | 16:15 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 1341656 in mos/6.0.x "RabbitMQ connections lack heartbeat or TCP keepalives" [Critical,Confirmed] | 16:15 |
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| angdraug | the most recent non-robot comment there is from a week ago | 16:15 |
| angdraug | so yes, the revert commit is still in need in a better explanation | 16:16 |
| angdraug | and so is the bug | 16:16 |
| aglarendil | angdraug: I do not know why, this bug was assigned to MOS team | 16:16 |
| aglarendil | angdraug: we now just need to revert the temporary workaround | 16:16 |
| aglarendil | and it should fix broken oslo.messaging at last | 16:17 |
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| aglarendil | next, bugs related to patching | 16:17 |
| abhishekk | hi | 16:17 |
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| aglarendil | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1362675 | 16:18 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 1362675 in fuel/5.1.x "Some services are not notified by their packages" [Critical,In progress] | 16:18 |
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| aglarendil | this bug is related to service notifications | 16:18 |
| aglarendil | the review should ensure all the openstack services are started | 16:19 |
| aglarendil | another bug related to patching: | 16:19 |
| aglarendil | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/mos/+bug/1359705 | 16:19 |
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| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 1359705 in mos/5.1.x "[update] non explicit packages are not updated" [Critical,Confirmed] | 16:19 |
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| aglarendil | we are going to get a list of updated packages for openstacj | 16:20 |
| dmitryme | regarding that bug, I am working on the list of packages to be updated | 16:20 |
| dmitryme | will be done in a matter of minutes | 16:20 |
| aglarendil | from dmitryme and inject packages update into site.pp | 16:21 |
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| aglarendil | I think that's all for release blockers. Other bugs still need triaging | 16:23 |
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| aglarendil | anyone to add anything to 5.0.2 discussion? | 16:24 |
| aglarendil | dmitryme: evgeniyl rvyalov ? | 16:24 |
| evgeniyl | I don't have anything to add | 16:24 |
| aglarendil | okay, let's move to open discussion | 16:24 |
| aglarendil | #topic open discussion | 16:24 |
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| aglarendil | rvyalov: meow-nofer__ your discussion of sqlalchemy,pls | 16:25 |
| rvyalov | we will update sqlalchemy in fuel 6.0 | 16:25 |
| rvyalov | for 5.1 only apply patch | 16:26 |
| rvyalov | meow-nofer__: why need update sqlalchemy in 5.1 ? | 16:26 |
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| meow-nofer__ | rvyalov, I didn't say we need to | 16:28 |
| meow-nofer__ | rvyalov, just asked | 16:28 |
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| rvyalov | ok | 16:28 |
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| meow-nofer__ | rvyalov, I remember there were some issues about this | 16:28 |
| dmitryme | aglarendil: sorry, I was out of my notebook. Nope, nothing to add | 16:28 |
| rvyalov | yes, need update sqlalchemy for openstack master | 16:29 |
| xarses | so for juno? | 16:30 |
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| rvyalov | yes | 16:30 |
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| meow-nofer__ | and for plugin support | 16:30 |
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| aglarendil | okay, so we will update some packages for juno support in 6.0 | 16:31 |
| aglarendil | it seems pretty obvious to me | 16:31 |
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| aglarendil | any other questions? | 16:34 |
| aglarendil | anyone? | 16:34 |
| Tatyanka_Leontov | I do not have :) | 16:34 |
| aglarendil | so it seems we can finish the meeting | 16:35 |
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| aglarendil | any objections? | 16:35 |
| Tatyanka_Leontov | thank you :) bb everyone | 16:35 |
| meow-nofer__ | nope | 16:35 |
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| albs | thanks, bye | 16:36 |
| meow-nofer__ | thanks everyone | 16:36 |
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| angdraug | endmeeting? | 16:36 |
| aglarendil | #endmeeting fuel | 16:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 28 16:37:23 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2014/fuel.2014-08-28-16.01.html | 16:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2014/fuel.2014-08-28-16.01.txt | 16:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2014/fuel.2014-08-28-16.01.log.html | 16:37 |
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| hyakuhei_ | Hey guys | 17:01 |
| tmcpeak | yo yo | 17:01 |
| hyakuhei_ | So I'm in a meeting right now, we can run this as an open meeting or someone else can lead? | 17:01 |
| hyakuhei_ | (voice meeting, with very important product type people) | 17:02 |
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| hyakuhei_ | #startmeeting openstack security group | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 28 17:02:23 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hyakuhei_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack security group)" | 17:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_security_group' | 17:02 |
| tmcpeak | lol | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei_ | #topic Open Meeting | 17:02 |
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| sarnold007 | aello all | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei_ | Roll call :) | 17:02 |
| bknudson | hi | 17:02 |
| sicarie | o/ | 17:02 |
| tmcpeak | \o | 17:02 |
| rlpple | \o | 17:02 |
| dstanek | hello | 17:03 |
| sarnold007 | o/ | 17:03 |
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| nkinder | hi all! | 17:03 |
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| hyakuhei_ | welcome all :D - nice turn out today! | 17:03 |
| rlpple | rlpple = Randy Perryman @ Dell | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei_ | Hey rlpple | 17:03 |
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| hyakuhei_ | So I don't have many agenda items for this week, well 2 | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei_ | 1. Lots of OSSNs in the queue | 17:03 |
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| rlpple | Posted to #openstack-security channel that is is going on. | 17:03 |
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| bknudson | do we have a place to post an agenda? | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei_ | 2. We'll be voting on the next leader of the OSSG soon, have a think about if you'd like this dubious honor ;) | 17:04 |
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| hyakuhei_ | bknudson: we normally just make it hte first part of the conversation, previously we've tried it by email but it seemed better ad-hoc | 17:04 |
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| tmcpeak | dubious indeed :P | 17:05 |
| bknudson | in keystone we update the wiki meeting page. | 17:05 |
| nkinder | yeah, that approach works nicely | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei_ | We can certainly do that | 17:05 |
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| hyakuhei_ | But as we currently have two things, lets not worry about that right now | 17:05 |
| tmcpeak | where's the OSSN queue? | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn | 17:07 |
| nkinder | here's reviews - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/security-doc,n,z | 17:07 |
| nkinder | and hyakuhei_'s link is the bug queue | 17:07 |
| nkinder | we have 3 OSSNs in progress in the review queue | 17:07 |
| nkinder | 2 of them need updates by the authors in response to review feedback | 17:07 |
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| nkinder | stan needs to review the feedback from morgan (keystone-core) on this - https://review.openstack.org/114971 | 17:08 |
| nkinder | and priti has comments from a few of us on this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113422/ | 17:09 |
| hyakuhei_ | Ok, so do we need to chase up the authors? | 17:09 |
| nkinder | I haven't seen priti around here, and 0020 seems like it's getting stalled out | 17:09 |
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| nkinder | It might make sense for someone else to take over it and wrap it up | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | I can ping her | 17:09 |
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| hyakuhei_ | Yeah, not many changes required. | 17:10 |
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| nkinder | tmcpeak: thanks, that would be great | 17:10 |
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| nkinder | shohel has one he drafted as well | 17:10 |
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| nkinder | https://review.openstack.org/114460 | 17:10 |
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| nkinder | I haven't had time to review it myself yet, but it should be an easy one | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei_ | Can we get some #action's please? | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei_ | for the minutes :) | 17:11 |
| nkinder | #action tmcpeak to ping priti on OSSN-0020 | 17:11 |
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| nkinder | hyakuhei_: can you ping stan on 0023? | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | I will | 17:12 |
| nkinder | #action tmcpeak to ping stan on OSSN-0023 | 17:12 |
| nkinder | Does anyone want to review 0024? | 17:12 |
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| bknudson | do we have a policy on reviews where someone other than the original author can post a new revision? | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | sure, where is that? | 17:12 |
| nkinder | I'll review it in the next few days | 17:12 |
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| nkinder | tmcpeak: https://review.openstack.org/114971 | 17:13 |
| nkinder | bknudson: nothing hard and fast | 17:13 |
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| nkinder | I try not to just grab stuff from people, unless it's something small that would be considered helpful | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | nkinder: this link is 23 | 17:14 |
| nkinder | bknudson: if something is obviously stale, I'd say it's free game | 17:14 |
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| nkinder | tmcpeak: what link are you looking for? | 17:14 |
| bknudson | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114460/ is 24 | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | 24 | 17:14 |
| nkinder | ah, sorry | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | ok cool | 17:14 |
| nkinder | 0024 is here - https://review.openstack.org/114460 | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | I'll review this shortly | 17:15 |
| nkinder | #action nkinder to review OSSN-0024 | 17:15 |
| bknudson | this is about tokens in logs | 17:15 |
| nkinder | #action tmcpeak to review OSSN-0024 | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | Priti says she can do it next week, is that good enough? | 17:15 |
| nkinder | #action bknudson to review OSSN-0024 | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | Symantec has a shut down week next week | 17:15 |
| nkinder | bknudson: considering that you fixed that, it makes sense for you to review the OSSN :) | 17:15 |
| bknudson | so 24 is the same as 23? | 17:15 |
| bknudson | oh, this is keystoneclient | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | Stan is here | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | viraptor: update on 23? | 17:16 |
| viraptor | will be posted today | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | cool | 17:16 |
| nkinder | bknudson: I think they should be merged | 17:17 |
| nkinder | bknudson: I hadn't looked at 0024, but they're largely the same thing | 17:17 |
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| nkinder | viraptor: take a look at 0024 too, as I think we should just combine it with you work on 0023 | 17:17 |
| nkinder | 0024 mentions that passwords are logged as part of logging requests at DEBUG level | 17:18 |
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| nkinder | that was fixed recently | 17:18 |
| nkinder | 0023 is for logging of tokens at INFO level | 17:18 |
| viraptor | that may confuse people though - one is fixable, the other isn't | 17:18 |
| nkinder | so we can combine these into one uber-note about sensitive data logging, or we can make 0024 only cover the password case | 17:18 |
| nkinder | viraptor: yeah, your note is about the token in the v2 URL | 17:19 |
| viraptor | I think these are quite different cases | 17:19 |
| nkinder | I was thinking of the token logging (not in the URL) that bknudson was working on | 17:19 |
| nkinder | so yes, separate then. | 17:19 |
| nkinder | bknudson: agreed? | 17:20 |
| bknudson | y, I think they're different, too | 17:20 |
| bknudson | one is mostly about the v2.0 API | 17:20 |
| nkinder | ok, good. | 17:20 |
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| nkinder | yes, 0023 is restricted to the v2 API having the tokens in the URL | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | and nkinder: you got part about Priti saying she'll wrap it up next week? | 17:20 |
| nkinder | tmcpeak: yep! | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | ok cool | 17:20 |
| nkinder | tmcpeak: that works for me | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | sounds good | 17:20 |
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| nkinder | There are many other OSSNs in the queue - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn/ | 17:21 |
| nkinder | Lots to choose from... Anyone interested? | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | I'll probably pick one up | 17:22 |
| nkinder | #action tmcpeak to pick up an OSSN | 17:22 |
| nkinder | #action nkinder to pick up an OSSN | 17:22 |
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| nkinder | so that leaves 6 more unclaimed if my math is correct | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | done | 17:22 |
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| nkinder | #action nkinder to call for OSSN help on the mailing list | 17:23 |
| nkinder | ok, I think that's it for OSSNs then. | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei_ | Nice, thanks nkinder tmcpeak | 17:24 |
| nkinder | tmcpeak: did you have anything going on around bandit? | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | I do! | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | I've been talking a bit with chair6 | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | and we agree that the following changes would be nice | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | 1) Get each test as a separate plugin | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | 2) Move the config to a JSON format | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | 3) Create the possibility to run from a predefined config which will allow you to select tests | 17:25 |
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| tmcpeak | this is so that we can have openstack specific tests, for example | 17:25 |
| nkinder | I thought we had #3? | 17:25 |
| tmcpeak | I guess #3 I'm talking about like profiles | 17:25 |
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| tmcpeak | so it would be something like bandit -p openstack | 17:25 |
| tmcpeak | or bandit -p generic_python | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | 4) create helper functions so that people who write tests don't need to be aware of the gritty details of AST | 17:26 |
| nkinder | For 3, why not just use -t <config file>? | 17:26 |
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| tmcpeak | yeah, it's the same thing | 17:27 |
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| tmcpeak | oh, does -t already exist? | 17:27 |
| nkinder | If we want to commit different config files in the bandit tree, that's fine too (openstack.ini, generic-python.ini) | 17:27 |
| nkinder | yes, -t is described in the README | 17:27 |
| tmcpeak | ok perfect, then #3 is a noop | 17:27 |
| tmcpeak | 5) eventually allow for tests to be defined without writing python code | 17:27 |
| nkinder | for 4, what helpers are you thinking of? | 17:27 |
| tmcpeak | I'll give you an example of a couple I wrote yesterday | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak | @property | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak | def function_name(self): | 17:28 |
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| tmcpeak | so I can check context.function_name == "xxx" or "yyy" in context.function_name | 17:28 |
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| tmcpeak | rather than having to know about where in the context structure I need to look | 17:28 |
| nkinder | that makes sense | 17:29 |
| tmcpeak | def is_module_imported(self, module): | 17:29 |
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| nkinder | the context is extensible, and we should add things that may be commonly used | 17:29 |
| tmcpeak | yeah totally | 17:29 |
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| nkinder | chair6 and I just focused on imports and such since that's what our tests used | 17:29 |
| nkinder | but let's extend context as we see fit | 17:30 |
| tmcpeak | for sure | 17:30 |
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| nkinder | We just need to still provide access to the raw node to do fancy AST stuff if required | 17:30 |
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| hyakuhei_ | Yeah, it makes sense to enable people to do 'clever' things as required | 17:30 |
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| tmcpeak | for sure | 17:30 |
| nkinder | ok, so back to #2 - is there something that we think JSON will help with that ini can't cover? | 17:31 |
| tmcpeak | chair6: brought that point up | 17:31 |
| bknudson | seems like yaml is easier to use for a richer config file | 17:31 |
| tmcpeak | the reason we were thinking JSON over yaml is that yaml requires non-default libraries | 17:31 |
| nkinder | well, is a rich format needed? | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | good question | 17:32 |
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| tmcpeak | we can definitely discuss that | 17:32 |
| nkinder | because moving away from simple ini seems in conflict with #5 (allow tests to be added without code) | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | I was probably going to take that last | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | by that I'd be fine with JSON | 17:32 |
| nkinder | are we trying to make this easy to add tests for non-devs, or do we want it to be powerful with a higher barrier to entry? | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | I'd say allow people to write tests without any understanding of AST is my main focus | 17:33 |
| nkinder | I wouldn't switch the format unless there is something that ini isn't allowing us to do. Otherwise it's just refactoring for no real reason IMHO | 17:33 |
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| tmcpeak | cool, let's chat offline and we can decide | 17:33 |
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| tmcpeak | I'm fine with leaving ini | 17:33 |
| tmcpeak | I think chair6 had some reason he wanted to switch but I can't remember what it is | 17:34 |
| nkinder | ok, cool. I'm OK with JSON if it has a benefit. | 17:34 |
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| nkinder | tmcpeak: and a big +1 on avoiding the need to know AST to write tests as much as possible | 17:34 |
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| tmcpeak | yeah, personal pet peeve of mine, I don't know what it is but AST gives me bad feelings | 17:34 |
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| tmcpeak | that's all I had | 17:35 |
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| tmcpeak | but bandit active development is in flight | 17:35 |
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| tmcpeak | we should have something even better soon :) | 17:35 |
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| nkinder | tmcpeak: great, sounds good | 17:36 |
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| nkinder | bdpayne: did you have anything to discuss about the book? | 17:36 |
| tmcpeak | bdpayne was recruiting for OSSG last night :) | 17:37 |
| bdpayne | no updates this week | 17:37 |
| bdpayne | thanks for checking! | 17:37 |
| bdpayne | yeah, it's been a busy week on some other things | 17:37 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei_: any other topics from you? | 17:37 |
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| hyakuhei_ | Nothing from me - though I wont be around for the next meetng as I'm on vacation | 17:39 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei_: enjoy! | 17:39 |
| hyakuhei_ | So if someone else wants to run it, that'd be great | 17:39 |
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| nkinder | Any topics from anyone else? | 17:39 |
| hyakuhei_ | I will, I'm not taking any internets with me at all :D | 17:39 |
| tmcpeak | nice | 17:39 |
| hyakuhei_ | Ok I guess we can wrap early folks :D | 17:40 |
| tmcpeak | cool, later everybody | 17:40 |
| hyakuhei_ | #endmeeting | 17:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 28 17:40:19 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:40 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-08-28-17.02.html | 17:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-08-28-17.02.txt | 17:40 |
| malini2 | Good vacation to you hyakuhei_. Bye all | 17:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-08-28-17.02.log.html | 17:40 |
| nkinder | thanks all! | 17:40 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | sahara folks, ping | 18:01 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #startmeeting sahara | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 28 18:01:07 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 18:01 |
| tosky | hi | 18:01 |
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| aignatov | o/ | 18:02 |
| elmiko | o/ | 18:02 |
| alazarev | o/ | 18:02 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf said that rht folks will be unable to join today, so, /me expecting short meeting | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and I have only about 30 mins too | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda | 18:03 |
| elmiko | so of us are here, but phone call at the same time =) | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I think it's important call so :) | 18:03 |
| elmiko | yea | 18:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic sahara@horizon status (croberts, NikitaKonovalov) | 18:04 |
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| elmiko | i've got important Sahara stuff too though! ;) | 18:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | NikitaKonovalov, are you available? | 18:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | sounds like we have no update on UI | 18:05 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | but AFAIK the UI status is green | 18:05 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic News / updates | 18:05 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | folks, please | 18:05 |
| SergeyLukjanov | short update | 18:05 |
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| tmckay | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara_spark_edp, folks, take a look and comment. I think we miss spark/swift for Juno, but for K for sure | 18:06 |
| sreshetnyak | i'm working on small fixes for cdh and vanilla plugins | 18:06 |
| elmiko | i have reviews up that allow for JobBinaries to be used with no username/password, and i'm working on the DataSources. i'd like to bring up the idea of decoupling the Sahara implementation from the Hadoop-Openstack jar | 18:06 |
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| tosky | just a reminder (that time ran out last time): if you can, and if you know horizon reviewer, please check the patches from one of our interns for selenium tests on sahara/horizon | 18:06 |
| tosky | ( https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:%22Tom%25C3%25A1%25C5%25A1+Nov%25C3%25A1%253Fik+%253Ctnovacik%2540redhat.com%253E%22+status:open,n,z ) | 18:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, the j3 is next week and it's a FeatureFreeze, so, we're missing it for Juno 100% | 18:07 |
| NikitaKonovalov | hi, everyone | 18:07 |
| NikitaKonovalov | I've got some problems with internet connection | 18:07 |
| tmckay | SergeyLukjanov, a few days before the freeze, any outstanding bugs and blueprints that have to get in? Or, I guess we can work on bugs after freeze (not a new feature) | 18:07 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: if i can get the Sahara patches for proxy user in by this weekend is there a chance we can get it into Sahara for J? | 18:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, bugs are ok for the pre rc1 time | 18:08 |
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| tmckay | ok | 18:08 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, we could have exceptions for some important, not world breaking changes | 18:08 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | for example, swift/trusts are fix for critical security issue, so... | 18:09 |
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| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: i'd like to try and get the feature in place for J, even if it is turned off by default. the work that will need to be done is updating the Hadoop-SwiftFs to v3 Keystone. | 18:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | sreshetnyak prepared today an etherpad with list of CRs to review ASAP - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-juno-3 | 18:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, /me agreed | 18:10 |
| aignatov | tosky, I’ll take a look | 18:10 |
| tosky | aignatov: thanks! It's a long chain of patches, but you can see that there are already (on top) few with real tests | 18:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, it looks like storm and mapr will be moved to easrlier K | 18:10 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | tosky, I've added to my backlog too | 18:11 |
| tosky | thanks | 18:11 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | one more things from my side - I'm getting married on Sept 13, so, will be not fully available and sometimes on PTO during the next two weeks | 18:12 |
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| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: congrats! | 18:12 |
| tmckay | congrats | 18:12 |
| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov: grats! | 18:12 |
| aignatov | congrats | 18:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | thx :) | 18:13 |
| tmckay | we'll be okay :) | 18:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | re release schedule - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Juno_Release_Schedule | 18:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | please, remember about FF, SF, DF next week | 18:13 |
| alazarev | do we want anti afinity in juno? I think yes | 18:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, I think so | 18:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, we have about 3-4 working days to land it | 18:14 |
| elmiko | seems like a-a is close, +1 | 18:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | but we need rmore active reviews | 18:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I'm on PTO tomorrow but hope to review all sahara changes | 18:14 |
| tmckay | I've been trying to ramp up reviews, now that swift investigation is done I'll continue to hit them hard | 18:15 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I'm expecting j3 to release next Thu | 18:15 |
| tmckay | holiday in US on Monday, by the way | 18:15 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | and first RC1 at September 25 | 18:15 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, yeah | 18:15 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, so, 3 days :) | 18:15 |
| alazarev | added aa to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-juno-3 | 18:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I'd like to ask all of you folks to review changes that we need to have in Juno | 18:16 |
| tmckay | ++ | 18:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, thx | 18:16 |
| aignatov | I think we have a tons of patches at the moment because savanna-ci continuosly fails | 18:16 |
| elmiko | yea... | 18:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, do you have patches to horizon ready for sec groups support? | 18:16 |
| alazarev | I think edp engine stuff need to be merged too | 18:16 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, I think it's optional because it's not really user-facing | 18:17 |
| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov: not for now, it require updated python client | 18:17 |
| tmckay | alazarev, ++ last I saw most of them were +2, maybe we can get those merged today/tomorrow. I think it's good, no issues | 18:17 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, but I don't see any blockers to make it merged | 18:17 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, oh, it should be done before the end of next weel | 18:18 |
| SergeyLukjanov | week* | 18:18 |
| * SergeyLukjanov adding note to releasenew version of client | 18:18 | |
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| SergeyLukjanov | I'll prepare some info about design summit at weekend and I hope to share it to you folks earlier next week | 18:19 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Open discussion | 18:19 |
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| tmckay | SergeyLukjanov, oh, Technical Deep Dive talk was put on alternate (I'm sure you know) | 18:19 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, yup, I saw, but AFAIK alt == not accepted | 18:20 |
| elmiko | is there anyone at Mirantis who understands the Hadoop-SwiftFs component that i could talk with? | 18:20 |
| tmckay | SergeyLukjanov, yes, so I think dmitry and I should not spend much time. Maybe just tweak aignatov slides just in case, and forget about it | 18:20 |
| tmckay | maybe even tweak in the hotel in Paris if they call us :) | 18:20 |
| tmckay | no demo prep, too much work to do | 18:20 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, it's alazarev | 18:21 |
| alazarev | elmiko: you can talk with me | 18:21 |
| elmiko | cool, thanks. we'll talk soon :) | 18:21 |
| aignatov | tmckay: looks like a good plan :) | 18:21 |
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| tmckay | must keep the picture of aignatov with glasses :) | 18:21 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, I have some plans on doing screencasts for J release for summit | 18:21 |
| tmckay | ok | 18:22 |
| elmiko | alazarev: i want to upgrade that component to v3 keystone, but i'm thinking about getting the Sahara stuff in place before that. | 18:22 |
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| aignatov | tmckay: yep, must have, my trollface is unforgettable xD | 18:23 |
| tmckay | lol | 18:23 |
| tosky | about demo and slides, one of the presentation from last Summit mentions Ceph support - is it through the Swift-like interface of Ceph, or HDFS, or...? I | 18:23 |
| alazarev | elmiko: this shouldn’t be hard | 18:23 |
| tosky | (I didn't check the video yet) | 18:23 |
| tmckay | tosky, thanks for remembering | 18:23 |
| tmckay | I've never played with it | 18:24 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tosky, Ceph provides Swift API | 18:24 |
| elmiko | alazarev: i didn't think so, but i need some advice about how to build and deploy, and maybe a few about the structure. | 18:24 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tosky, Mirantis OpenStack distors installs Ceph with Swift API and Sahara works good with it | 18:24 |
| tosky | SergeyLukjanov: oh, I see, thanks | 18:24 |
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| alazarev | tosky: Ceph -> rados gateway -> Swift API -> HDFS -> Hadoop, long path :) | 18:24 |
| aignatov | tosky: it is through swift-api for ceph | 18:25 |
| notmyname | (limited) | 18:25 |
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| tosky | uhm, could the changes elmiko is working on impact this? | 18:25 |
| elmiko | tosky: they shouldn't, by default Sahara will continue to work the same as it does now | 18:26 |
| tosky | ack | 18:26 |
| elmiko | the admin will need to setup Sahara for proxy domains, and install new Hadoop-SwiftFs components before the proxy/auth stuff will work | 18:27 |
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| tmckay | nobody is talking. Adjourn? | 18:32 |
| elmiko | +1 | 18:32 |
| alazarev | +1 | 18:32 |
| SergeyLukjanov | +1 | 18:32 |
| SergeyLukjanov | thank you folks | 18:32 |
| aignatov | +2 merged | 18:32 |
| SergeyLukjanov | have a good day | 18:32 |
| tmckay | lol | 18:32 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #endmeeting | 18:32 |
| tmckay | bye | 18:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 28 18:32:39 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-08-28-18.01.html | 18:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-08-28-18.01.txt | 18:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-08-28-18.01.log.html | 18:32 |
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| amitgandhinz | #startmeeting Poppy Weekly Meeting | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 28 19:00:09 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amitgandhinz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'poppy_weekly_meeting' | 19:00 |
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| amitgandhinz | #topic roll call | 19:00 |
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| amitgandhinz | welcome, who do we have today for the poppy meeting? | 19:00 |
| obulpathi | 0/ | 19:00 |
| obulpathi | o/ | 19:00 |
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| guimarin | guimarin from fastly | 19:01 |
| Fred-MaxCDN | Fred from MaxCDN | 19:01 |
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| obulpathi | hi guimarin | 19:01 |
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| obulpathi | hi Fred | 19:01 |
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| amitgandhinz | hey guimarin and Fred-MaxCDN ! | 19:01 |
| malini1 | o/ | 19:01 |
| guimarin | hi all! | 19:01 |
| Fred-MaxCDN | Hey Guys | 19:02 |
| tonytan4ever | me here... | 19:02 |
| tonytan4ever | Hi Fred. | 19:02 |
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| tonytan4ever | Hi guimarin | 19:02 |
| amitgandhinz | ok, most of us are here | 19:02 |
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| amitgandhinz | fyi megan_w is out the next couple of meetings | 19:03 |
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| amitgandhinz | #topic Review last weeks action items | 19:03 |
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| amitgandhinz | following the agenda here: #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Poppy#Next_meeting | 19:03 |
| amitgandhinz | #link: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2014/poppy_weekly_meeting.2014-08-21-19.02.html | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | so action items from last week, going down the list... | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | 1. amitgandhinz to investigate MaxCDN CDN Manager API for master/sub accounts | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | i still havent had the chance to do that, sorry | 19:05 |
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| amitgandhinz | i'll add it on to my todo for the next week. | 19:05 |
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| amitgandhinz | #action: amitgandhinz to investigate MaxCDN CDN Manager API for master/sub accounts | 19:05 |
| amitgandhinz | related to this, guimarin - do you have any updates on the fastly side around master/sub accounts | 19:06 |
| amitgandhinz | iirc some work had been done, and you were working on exposing apis? | 19:06 |
| guimarin | just a second, had to put sandwich down | 19:06 |
| guimarin | so have you guys got into contact with the other divs in rackspace about Fastly | 19:06 |
| guimarin | my understanding since going back to my team is that you're building out an account management system on your side | 19:07 |
| guimarin | using our existing api's | 19:07 |
| guimarin | i can have edwardb who just joined reach out to megan_w about this | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | im not aware of those discussions. | 19:07 |
| guimarin | edward-fastly can you comment on that | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | ok please cc me on that email also - megan_w is out for then next 10 days | 19:08 |
| catherine_r | Here - a little late - sorry. | 19:08 |
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| obulpathi | hi catherine_r | 19:08 |
| amitgandhinz | #action guimarin, edward-fastly, and amitgandhinz to look into what "building out an account management system" is about. | 19:09 |
| amitgandhinz | guimarin: ok we can take that offline | 19:09 |
| guimarin | sounds good | 19:09 |
| guimarin | thanks | 19:09 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok next action item: amitgandhinz to investigate bp permissions | 19:09 |
| amitgandhinz | after working with obul we found that anyone can create a bp. to be assigned a bp in launchpad, only the PTL can assign work | 19:10 |
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| amitgandhinz | are there any other questions around this item? | 19:10 |
| obulpathi | FYI: we can edit the whiteboard, link bug reports etc to a bp | 19:10 |
| obulpathi | I think this is mostly what we need | 19:11 |
| tonytan4ever | Seems developer cannot change the state of a BP. | 19:11 |
| amitgandhinz | basically assignment is done by the PTL as they are the one who sets the direction of the project | 19:11 |
| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: agreed. its a little annoying, but basically the PTL has to change the state also. Through these meetings and other discussions in the #openstack-poppy channel | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | ok item 3 is the same as 2 | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | 4) obulpathi to get on the atlanta openstack meetup schedule for poppy | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | obulpathi: can you please comment on that | 19:12 |
| obulpathi | So I had a discussion with the organizers of the local openstack meetup | 19:12 |
| obulpathi | I proposed the poppy meeting for october 16 | 19:13 |
| obulpathi | to discuss about poppy architecture and what it means for openstack and to gather early feedback from openstack users | 19:13 |
| obulpathi | its still going on | 19:13 |
| obulpathi | only one organizer has responded so far | 19:13 |
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| edward-fastly | hey amitgandhinz are you saying megan is out today and for 10 more days? | 19:14 |
| obulpathi | I will keep bugging them and schedule the talk | 19:14 |
| amitgandhinz | edward-fastly: megan_w returns on Sep 9 | 19:14 |
| obulpathi | thats it for now on action item 4 | 19:14 |
| amitgandhinz | ok thanks obulpathi | 19:15 |
| amitgandhinz | #action: obulpathi to keep bugging the atlanta openstack meetup organizers to get on the schedule | 19:15 |
| obulpathi | got it | 19:15 |
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| amitgandhinz | #topic: Updates on Blueprints and Bugs | 19:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Updates on Blueprints and Bugs (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:16 | |
| amitgandhinz | #link: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy | 19:16 |
| amitgandhinz | how is the progress on bp/create-service, tonytan4ever | 19:16 |
| tonytan4ever | I just finished design discussion and started coding since yesterday. | 19:17 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok, i'll leave the state as started | 19:17 |
| tonytan4ever | Sounds good to me. | 19:17 |
| amitgandhinz | #link: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/flavors | 19:18 |
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| amitgandhinz | this one is in review | 19:18 |
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| obulpathi | will review it | 19:18 |
| amitgandhinz | could use some review love | 19:18 |
| amitgandhinz | thanks obulpathi | 19:18 |
| obulpathi | :) | 19:18 |
| tonytan4ever | #link: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/poppy-models | 19:19 |
| amitgandhinz | poppy-models: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/poppy-models | 19:19 |
| tonytan4ever | this one is under review as well. | 19:19 |
| tonytan4ever | I got a few review comments, and I will address them ASAP. | 19:19 |
| amitgandhinz | ok thanks tonytan4ever. i had posted a large comment there. did those make sense? | 19:20 |
| tonytan4ever | Yes. | 19:20 |
| amitgandhinz | Ok cool. let me know if you need more discussion on this. we can talk about it in the normal channel | 19:20 |
| amitgandhinz | #link: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/add-docstrings | 19:21 |
| tonytan4ever | Sure. | 19:21 |
| amitgandhinz | ametts doesnt appear to be in the room | 19:21 |
| amitgandhinz | doesnt appear to be started yet | 19:21 |
| amitgandhinz | #link: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/health | 19:21 |
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| amitgandhinz | obulpathi: any update on this | 19:21 |
| obulpathi | health end point is almost done | 19:22 |
| obulpathi | I got side tracked due to opencafe bug and cassandra testing | 19:22 |
| amitgandhinz | ok, lets try to get this one done (avoid sidetracking if possible lol) | 19:22 |
| obulpathi | so the status is still the same for that bp | 19:22 |
| amitgandhinz | ok | 19:22 |
| obulpathi | sure .. will get it done asap | 19:22 |
| amitgandhinz | do you have what you need to check for the health of provider api's? | 19:23 |
| obulpathi | right now I am just hitting cloudfront uri and checking if its alive | 19:23 |
| obulpathi | I need to do the same thing to fastly and maxcdn | 19:23 |
| obulpathi | I have not investigated that part yet | 19:24 |
| amitgandhinz | guimarin: Fred-MaxCDN: do your api's have a health endpoint to check if your api's are up and behaving? *i havent looks at the docs on that yet | 19:25 |
| amitgandhinz | s/looks/looked | 19:25 |
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| guimarin | you can subscribe at status.fastly.com | 19:25 |
| guimarin | for that information | 19:25 |
| obulpathi | oh cool | 19:25 |
| obulpathi | I will check that | 19:25 |
| guimarin | we use a third party service, but they have a 'webhook' | 19:26 |
| obulpathi | thanks guimarin | 19:26 |
| guimarin | interface that you can have a deamon on | 19:26 |
| amitgandhinz | obulpathi: the rss feed maybe the way to go #link: http://status.fastly.com/history.atom | 19:26 |
| guimarin | right if you want to scrape it | 19:26 |
| obulpathi | ok | 19:26 |
| guimarin | but we have the ability to notify by email, sms | 19:26 |
| guimarin | etc. | 19:26 |
| guimarin | but if you go to the webhook notification | 19:26 |
| Fred-MaxCDN | we have it on staus.maxcdn.com but we can add historical data if you wish | 19:26 |
| guimarin | they will looks like send you a json call | 19:26 |
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| amitgandhinz | guimarin: cool. | 19:27 |
| amitgandhinz | Fred-MaxCDN: is the a programmatic way to access the status? | 19:27 |
| obulpathi | thanks Fred-MaxCDN. will look in to status.maxcdn.com | 19:27 |
| guimarin | and it looks like maxcdn has the same service as fastly | 19:27 |
| guimarin | looks like they just need to enable that same json webhook thingy | 19:28 |
| amitgandhinz | fyi this is something that would be used by an operator to check all systems that poppy talk to are operating optimally | 19:28 |
| amitgandhinz | ok cool, they both look similar | 19:28 |
| obulpathi | great | 19:29 |
| amitgandhinz | alright, lets move on to the next topic | 19:29 |
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| Fred-MaxCDN | yes we have it. I need to get the public page up for you guys | 19:29 |
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| amitgandhinz | #topic Load Testing tools and Best Practices | 19:29 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok, what we are looking to do is deploy a bunch of different websites for testing (static sites, word press sites, file download sites, etc) | 19:30 |
| amitgandhinz | then enable CDN on them using Poppy with the various providers | 19:30 |
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| amitgandhinz | then load test those sites to ensure that the cdn configurations are set up correctly and the cdn providers are handling the traffic at the edge | 19:31 |
| amitgandhinz | there are a number of tools out there, which malini1 is starting to investigate | 19:31 |
| malini1 | when you say load test, do you mean accessing from servers around the world? | 19:32 |
| amitgandhinz | i am interested to hear from guimarin and Fred-MaxCDN on their recommended approaches | 19:32 |
| amitgandhinz | malini1: yes | 19:32 |
| guimarin | so do you mean for setting up services or for testing them? | 19:32 |
| amitgandhinz | so accessing the sites from around the world, and also hitting the sites hard enough to ensure the edge is serving the traffic etc | 19:32 |
| amitgandhinz | guimarin: testing that the service was configured correctly and that the provider is doing what its supposed to | 19:33 |
| amitgandhinz | eg honoring restrictions/conditions | 19:33 |
| malini1 | I am looking at http://www.webpagetest.org/, & seems like fastly/maxCDN already partner with them | 19:33 |
| amitgandhinz | actually service content from the edge | 19:33 |
| amitgandhinz | s/service/serving | 19:33 |
| guimarin | right so those are two seperate things | 19:33 |
| Fred-MaxCDN | we can use load impact , also catchpoint for global availability | 19:33 |
| malini1 | Fred-MaxCDN: are those opensource tools? | 19:34 |
| Fred-MaxCDN | no | 19:34 |
| guimarin | right so checking that the CDN is working is different from how well is the CDN working | 19:34 |
| guimarin | what i typically do is this | 19:34 |
| guimarin | https://gist.github.com/guimarin/9280636 | 19:35 |
| guimarin | and piont it at the CDN and the origin | 19:35 |
| guimarin | now you can get fancier if you want to spend money, but i find running this on VPSs around the world give me a pretty good idea | 19:35 |
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| malini1 | guimarin: what is a VPS? | 19:35 |
| guimarin | virtual private server | 19:35 |
| guimarin | linode/digital ocean/ec2 | 19:36 |
| guimarin | etc | 19:36 |
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| malini1 | thanks! | 19:36 |
| amitgandhinz | ok so that will help in testing the conditions from geo's etc | 19:37 |
| amitgandhinz | very cool | 19:37 |
| amitgandhinz | and simple! | 19:37 |
| malini1 | guimarin: do u have any recommendation on how the VPSs are geographically distributed etc.? | 19:37 |
| guimarin | so the thing about this | 19:37 |
| guimarin | is that testing is done by like 4 companies | 19:37 |
| guimarin | and it's really easy to er, modify the tests | 19:37 |
| guimarin | so that' swhy i have this oss script | 19:38 |
| amitgandhinz | malini1: i think we would just spin up servers with a range of providers around the world depending on what we are testing | 19:38 |
| guimarin | that people can use | 19:38 |
| guimarin | what you really want is a huge Real user metrics RUM setup | 19:38 |
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| guimarin | i fyou want to do comparisons, etc. | 19:38 |
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| guimarin | bc then you see what actual users see, but the apachebenchmark test is free to set up and cheap to run on your own | 19:39 |
| malini1 | I will ping you with more questions in #openstack-poppy | 19:39 |
| guimarin | if you guys want some more info on this we can take it offline | 19:39 |
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| amitgandhinz | im assuming if we didnt have RUM then we would have to have enough load generators and be careful of generating hotspots | 19:39 |
| malini1 | I am familiar with ab, but just need to figire out the geo part | 19:39 |
| guimarin | so webpagetest is another really interesting tool, but it also needs to have some toggles toggled to get something that you want as opposed to the default | 19:40 |
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| malini1 | webpagetest looked really interesting -mainly because of the geo footprint | 19:40 |
| Fred-MaxCDN | I used to use multiple vps boxes but at most I could cover 10 or 20 location , it is good when you deal with large file delivery but for small file you need more locations. | 19:40 |
| guimarin | yes it's open source and our cpo steve sauders says it's the best middle ground for people that want to run tests on verifiable systems | 19:41 |
| guimarin | we also look at cedexis and catch point but you have topay for them | 19:41 |
| guimarin | and their methodology needs to be understood so you undestand the limits of the test | 19:41 |
| guimarin | eg. if the testing box is in teh same data center as the CDN pop it's kind of useless | 19:41 |
| amitgandhinz | ok, malini1 do you have enough info on this topic, we can talk about it more in the normal channel | 19:42 |
| malini1 | thanks guimarin & Fred-MaxCDN! | 19:42 |
| amitgandhinz | yup thanks, really useful info! | 19:42 |
| malini1 | yes amitgandhinz | 19:42 |
| Fred-MaxCDN | sure thing | 19:42 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic: Log Delivery | 19:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Log Delivery (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:43 | |
| amitgandhinz | ok, so this is a topic that i have started to investigate | 19:43 |
| amitgandhinz | basically i am looking at how the various providers are distributing the logs (so that poppy can retrieve them), and later use for both analytics, and metering | 19:43 |
| amitgandhinz | so far i have looked at fastly, maxcdn, and cloudfront api's | 19:44 |
| amitgandhinz | cloudfront dumps their logs into S3 buckets | 19:44 |
| amitgandhinz | fastly has a range of options (S3 included) - do you plan to support Swift/CloudFiles | 19:45 |
| guimarin | Fastly: under the model we discussed, each customer with themselves seperate and their own service, each can stream real-time logs via syslog ( about 1s latency ) to a your endpoint, a bunch of third party endpoints, or over FTP ( minimum 1min latency ) to the same sinks. | 19:45 |
| amitgandhinz | and maxcdn appears to have a realtime api to query and get back a json response | 19:45 |
| Fred-MaxCDN | we also have the s3 option | 19:45 |
| amitgandhinz | Fred-MaxCDN: ah, thanks i didnt see that option | 19:45 |
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| tonytan4ever | sweet, real time analytics. | 19:45 |
| guimarin | supporting cloudfiles is the goal | 19:46 |
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| amitgandhinz | I think with poppy, it needs to be flexible on the sinks it provides, as each provider is bound to be different | 19:46 |
| obulpathi | +1 | 19:47 |
| amitgandhinz | s3 is definitely a common one i am seeing | 19:47 |
| guimarin | looking at the roadmap there is a DNS issue that needs to be resolved before we add cloudflies | 19:47 |
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| amitgandhinz | my concern with providing an endpoint for syslog to stream to is the amount of info that will be streamed | 19:47 |
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| amitgandhinz | guimarin: do you have data on the size of each log that is streamed? | 19:48 |
| guimarin | that depends on how much you get to add | 19:48 |
| guimarin | the logs are just apache common format logs | 19:48 |
| guimarin | just streamed using syslog | 19:49 |
| amitgandhinz | true, i saw the format options | 19:49 |
| guimarin | but back to the other point, i think defaulting to S3 FTP or similar is probably a good diea, but i would give people the option to do syslog streaming if they wanted | 19:49 |
| amitgandhinz | hmm...i will have to talk to our ops folks on the streaming concept though | 19:50 |
| guimarin | especially if s3 support is so widespread thorugh all the providers | 19:50 |
| amitgandhinz | i like the concept, im just concerned about how fat the pipe will be | 19:50 |
| guimarin | tha'ts reasonable, it will also be as fat as the # of qps | 19:50 |
| guimarin | let me tell you the guys doing 10k qps are certainly getting a lot of logs | 19:50 |
| amitgandhinz | ok, i will talk to our ops team, but we can experiment with this | 19:52 |
| amitgandhinz | im only at the beginning of looking at the logging story | 19:52 |
| Fred-MaxCDN | gzipping the logs before shoot could help | 19:52 |
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| amitgandhinz | but im getting a good idea about it | 19:52 |
| amitgandhinz | Fred-MaxCDN: do you guys have plans to support CloudFiles/Swift also? | 19:52 |
| obulpathi | +1 for zipping logs | 19:53 |
| Fred-MaxCDN | I need to check the dev roadmap | 19:53 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok we have 5 minutes left... | 19:54 |
| guimarin | just fyi fastly ftp log transfer which is one of the options we're discussing, currently supports gziping up to level 9 | 19:54 |
| guimarin | same with s3 | 19:54 |
| amitgandhinz | cool. | 19:55 |
| amitgandhinz | that will def helpt | 19:55 |
| * amitgandhinz really cant type today | 19:55 | |
| amitgandhinz | ok lets move on to the last agenda item | 19:55 |
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| amitgandhinz | #topic: switching PUT to POST | 19:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": switching PUT to POST (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:55 | |
| amitgandhinz | so i kind of thought about this yesterday and am interested in feedback | 19:56 |
| amitgandhinz | currently when we PUT /service with pass the servicename in both the url and the body | 19:56 |
| amitgandhinz | seems redundant | 19:56 |
| amitgandhinz | its in the body to keep consistent with the GET which will return the servicename | 19:56 |
| amitgandhinz | same applies to /flavors | 19:56 |
| amitgandhinz | i propose we change it to POST /v1.0/services | 19:57 |
| amitgandhinz | and pass the servicename in the body | 19:57 |
| amitgandhinz | let the server decide the location (which will end up being v1.0/services/servicename | 19:57 |
| amitgandhinz | and then we no longer have duplication | 19:57 |
| amitgandhinz | thoughts? | 19:57 |
| tonytan4ever | +1 for change to POST with a shortened url. | 19:57 |
| obulpathi | looks like a good idea | 19:58 |
| amitgandhinz | malini1: ?? | 19:58 |
| amitgandhinz | ok 1 minute remaining =P | 19:58 |
| obulpathi | will get be GET /services/servicename? | 19:58 |
| amitgandhinz | obulpathi: yes | 19:59 |
| obulpathi | ok | 19:59 |
| amitgandhinz | ok i will document the change then | 19:59 |
| amitgandhinz | i will take malini1's silence as a vote for it =P | 19:59 |
| obulpathi | hahaha | 19:59 |
| amitgandhinz | ok time is up | 19:59 |
| amitgandhinz | thanks everyone, that was a lot to cover today | 20:00 |
| amitgandhinz | was very productive and helpful | 20:00 |
| amitgandhinz | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 28 20:00:15 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| tonytan4ever | see y'all. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2014/poppy_weekly_meeting.2014-08-28-19.00.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2014/poppy_weekly_meeting.2014-08-28-19.00.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2014/poppy_weekly_meeting.2014-08-28-19.00.log.html | 20:00 |
| obulpathi | good moderation amitgandhinz | 20:00 |
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| obulpathi | see you all | 20:00 |
| Fred-MaxCDN | take care you guys. | 20:00 |
| guimarin | tatta | 20:00 |
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