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| StevenK | tchaypo: You're running late :-P | 07:01 |
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| tchaypo | huh? | 07:01 |
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| tchaypo | oh wow, that got away from me | 07:01 |
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| tchaypo | #startmeeting tripleo | 07:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 3 07:01:48 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tchaypo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | \o | 07:01 |
| marios | o/ | 07:02 |
| GheRivero | o/ | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | Have we the people? | 07:02 |
| StevenK | o/ | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | We have the people! | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | Pushing on | 07:02 |
| marios | start it and they will come | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | #topic agenda | 07:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:02 | |
| tchaypo | * bugs | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | * reviews | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | * Projects needing releases | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | * CD Cloud status | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | * CI | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | * Tuskar | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | * Specs | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | * open discussion | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | Remember that anyone can use the link and info commands, not just the moderator - if you have something worth noting in the meeting minutes feel free to tag it | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | #topic bugs | 07:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:02 | |
| tchaypo | So I'll start with an update on two bugs I was chasing as an action from last week | 07:03 |
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| tchaypo | Michael Kerrin is on leave for another few days - so no progress on https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1263294 | 07:03 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1263294 in tripleo "ephemeral0 of /dev/sda1 triggers 'did not find entry for sda1 in /sys/block'" [Critical,In progress] | 07:03 |
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| tchaypo | unless someone wants to grab that.. | 07:04 |
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| tchaypo | and https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1317056 - there doesn't seem to be anything for us to do, so I've downgraded it from critical | 07:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1317056 in tripleo "Guest VM FS corruption after compute host reboot" [High,Incomplete] | 07:04 |
| tchaypo | Unless someone is able to reproduce itI plan to just close it | 07:04 |
| tchaypo | urr, I should note some of that | 07:05 |
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| tchaypo | #note As followup from last week's meeting, https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1317056 has been downgraded as it doesn't seem to be reproducible, and https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1263294 is waiting for mkerrin to come back from leave and update | 07:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1317056 in tripleo "Guest VM FS corruption after compute host reboot" [High,Incomplete] | 07:06 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 07:06 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/ | 07:06 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config | 07:06 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-apply-config | 07:07 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config | 07:07 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-cloud-config | 07:07 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar | 07:07 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tuskarclient | 07:07 |
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| tchaypo | I've had a quick look at the TripleO bugs | 07:07 |
| tchaypo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1364345 needs an assignee | 07:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1364345 in tripleo "CI tests are pulling in the wrong version of git repo's" [Critical,Triaged] | 07:07 |
| tchaypo | and aside from the ones I've already mentioned, there's just one other critical that's in progress | 07:08 |
| tchaypo | Does anyone want to claim 1364345? | 07:11 |
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| tchaypo | Tuskar has one critical - https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar/+bug/1357525 | 07:11 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1357525 in tuskar "tuskar-api fails with "no such option: config_file"" [Critical,Fix committed] | 07:11 |
| tchaypo | it's assigned to dougala | 07:12 |
| marios | seems like he has ideas about what is needed there anyway | 07:13 |
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| shadower | fyi dougal's on a vacation until the end of this week | 07:14 |
| tchaypo | Any other comments before we move on? | 07:15 |
| tchaypo | #note https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1364345 is looking for an owner | 07:15 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1364345 in tripleo "CI tests are pulling in the wrong version of git repo's" [Critical,Triaged] | 07:15 |
| tchaypo | #topic reviews | 07:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:16 | |
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| tchaypo | #info There's a new dashboard linked from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleO#Review_team - look for "TripleO Inbox Dashboard" | 07:16 |
| tchaypo | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-openreviews.html | 07:16 |
| tchaypo | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-30.txt | 07:16 |
| tchaypo | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-90.txt | 07:16 |
| tchaypo | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/044691.html | 07:16 |
| tchaypo | #info I posted ^^^ to the list today, pointing out that ~50% of our core reviewers are under their 3 reviews/day commitment on both 30 and 90 day reports | 07:17 |
| tchaypo | I think this is part of whats hurting our velocity here | 07:17 |
| tchaypo | Stats since the last revision without -1 or -2 : | 07:17 |
| tchaypo | Average wait time: 12 days, 3 hours, 22 minutes | 07:17 |
| tchaypo | 1st quartile wait time: 4 days, 19 hours, 3 minutes | 07:18 |
| tchaypo | Median wait time: 7 days, 22 hours, 55 minutes | 07:18 |
| tchaypo | 3rd quartile wait time: 19 days, 15 hours, 36 minutes | 07:18 |
| marios | ouch | 07:18 |
| jprovazn | I think this is at least partially caused by vacation time | 07:18 |
| GheRivero | summer is usually a period were things slow down | 07:18 |
| shadower | yea | 07:18 |
| tchaypo | you crazy northerners :) | 07:19 |
| StevenK | But it's Spring :-P | 07:19 |
| jprovazn | hehe | 07:19 |
| GheRivero | let's see how you do in 6 months :) | 07:19 |
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| tchaypo | yeah, and the last month has also seen a wedding, a baby, the ops meetup | 07:19 |
| tchaypo | GheRivero: in 6 months I'll be dropping in to visit you | 07:20 |
| StevenK | And other stuff that people have been focused on | 07:20 |
| GheRivero | tchaypo: cool! | 07:20 |
| tchaypo | anyway - there's no point ranting about it here, we don't have enough people here to make a difference. | 07:21 |
| tchaypo | it'd be good if you could respond on the mailing list though | 07:21 |
| tchaypo | There's also been some more activity on the thread about whether we're even measuring a useful metric | 07:21 |
| tchaypo | Shall we mov eon? | 07:22 |
| StevenK | Since :22, let's | 07:22 |
| tchaypo | On the offchance that you can see this | 07:23 |
| tchaypo | my internet suddenly got sad | 07:23 |
| tchaypo | I shall attempt to reconnect | 07:23 |
| marios | tchaypo: see it fine | 07:23 |
| tchaypo | and I'm back | 07:25 |
| tchaypo | #topic Projects needing releases | 07:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Projects needing releases (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:26 | |
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| tchaypo | Volunteers? | 07:26 |
| marios | o/ (unless anyone else would like to, I did it last week too) | 07:26 |
| tchaypo | #action marios volunteers to do the releases again | 07:26 |
| tchaypo | Thanks | 07:26 |
| tchaypo | #topic CD Cloud status | 07:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CD Cloud status (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:26 | |
| tchaypo | #note I'm still learning while I poke at HP2. We have an undercloud with 95 machines - if the networking is working as we expect we should be able to get a ci-overcloud in the next few days | 07:27 |
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| StevenK | Why does the undercloud have 95 machines? | 07:28 |
| StevenK | Shouldn't it have 3, leaving 92 for the overcloud to be built on? | 07:28 |
| marios | (maybe he means for deployment) | 07:29 |
| marios | (i.e. what you said) | 07:29 |
| tchaypo | Actaully I think the undercloud I built today is occupying 1 machine; i think it didn't HA properly | 07:29 |
| tchaypo | but yes, I expect it should have 92 for the overcloud to be deployed on | 07:30 |
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| tchaypo | If we have no other updates.. | 07:31 |
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| tchaypo | #topic ci | 07:31 |
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| tchaypo | I'm not sure if anyone here will have any updates on this either.. | 07:32 |
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| tchaypo | #topic Tuskar | 07:33 |
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| shadower | not sure any of the tuskar devs are here | 07:34 |
| shadower | I know there's been some work recently on integrating with the merge.py-less templates, building the plan and testing it | 07:34 |
| shadower | with some success | 07:35 |
| shadower | 's all I know though | 07:35 |
| tchaypo | Could you note that for the minutes? | 07:35 |
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| shadower | sure | 07:35 |
| shadower | #note tuskar is testing building the plan with the merge.py-less templates and testing the deployment | 07:36 |
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| tchaypo | #topic specs | 07:37 |
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| tchaypo | thanks shadower | 07:37 |
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| tchaypo | moving along.. | 07:40 |
| tchaypo | #topic open discussion | 07:40 |
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| tchaypo | A few weeks ago we talkeda bout maybe moving this meeting a little later to be more convenient for people in europe. | 07:41 |
| greghaynes | tchaypo: sorry for being late, your ML thread got mentioned already? | 07:41 |
| tchaypo | greghaynes: yep; but there aren't many people here so we didn't dwell. | 07:41 |
| tchaypo | Except for pointing out that it *is* northern summer and that's traditionally slow due to lots of people taking breaks | 07:42 |
| greghaynes | yep | 07:42 |
| greghaynes | as long as we get the word out :) | 07:42 |
| tchaypo | to be honest, I can understand people's 30 day stats falling below benchmark if they take a few weeks off | 07:43 |
| tchaypo | but 50% of our cores are below benchmark on the 90 day stats as well | 07:43 |
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| greghaynes | Yes, I really think there is some culling needed at the low end | 07:43 |
| tchaypo | Well. | 07:44 |
| tchaypo | I think that would certainly give us a bit more clarity about how many core reviewers we actually have, which tells if we need to be trying to get more | 07:44 |
| tchaypo | I don't think culling will improve velocity though | 07:44 |
| tchaypo | does anyone want to volunteer to mail the list again and propose to run the meeting 14 days from now at the new time? | 07:45 |
| greghaynes | It wont, I just dont believe there is any way that some of the low end can be up to date with the state of the project | 07:45 |
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| tchaypo | And do we have anything else to bring up? | 07:45 |
| tchaypo | greghaynes: completely agree | 07:45 |
| shadower | tchaypo: I'll email the list re new meeting time | 07:46 |
| tchaypo | shadower: thanks :) | 07:46 |
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| tchaypo | I probably won't be able to make taht meeting due to being in german class, but I should be able to join the one after that | 07:46 |
| shadower | right | 07:46 |
| greghaynes | I guess one more topic - I am trying to work out all the kinks with the HA job | 07:46 |
| greghaynes | I notice everyone is ignoring is essentially (understandably) | 07:47 |
| greghaynes | but it would be awesome if people started to try and ensure it passes even though it is non-voting | 07:47 |
| tchaypo | could you note that for the minutes? | 07:47 |
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| tchaypo | Personally I've been ignoring it until I've got a setup using it and I know how it works | 07:48 |
| greghaynes | #note Please try and check HA CI job on reviews even though it is non voting | 07:48 |
| tchaypo | coincidentally the thing I need to poke at tomorrow morning is making hp2 be HA | 07:48 |
| tchaypo | ... i think. assuing it's in a state where we want HA. | 07:48 |
| greghaynes | HA all the things | 07:49 |
| tchaypo | If there's nothing else, I'm going to wrap up early | 07:50 |
| jprovazn | greghaynes: did you have any luck looking at the CI HA fail when one of instances ends in error/deleting state? | 07:50 |
| greghaynes | jprovazn: I started, that resulted in getting the debug patch merged and patch to break out app-specific log files | 07:51 |
| greghaynes | jprovazn: the plan is to make the HA job always run with debug logs on | 07:51 |
| greghaynes | jprovazn: hopefully tomorrow ill get that done | 07:51 |
| jprovazn | greghaynes: ah, nice | 07:51 |
| greghaynes | If you want to +A something to help :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118464/ | 07:52 |
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| jprovazn | greghaynes: sure, will look | 07:53 |
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| tchaypo | going, going... | 07:57 |
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| tchaypo | #endmeeting | 07:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 3 07:58:29 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 07:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-09-03-07.01.html | 07:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-09-03-07.01.txt | 07:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-09-03-07.01.log.html | 07:58 |
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| Swami | hi | 15:00 |
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| Swami | pcm_: hi | 15:00 |
| pcm_ | hi | 15:01 |
| Swami | I am assuming that there will be less attendance today | 15:01 |
| Swami | #startmeeting distributed_virtual_router | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 3 15:02:21 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Swami. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'distributed_virtual_router' | 15:02 |
| Swami | #info Today will be the Juno 3 cut off date | 15:02 |
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| Swami | mrsmith: hi | 15:02 |
| Swami | So today will be the last day for all Juno features to get in. | 15:03 |
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| mrsmith | Swami: hiya | 15:03 |
| Swami | Rajeev: hi | 15:03 |
| Rajeev | Swami: Hi | 15:04 |
| Swami | #topic Agenda | 15:04 |
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| Swami | #topic DVR Update | 15:04 |
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| Swami | All our DVR patches have landed upstream. | 15:04 |
| Swami | We are still working on bugs. | 15:05 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=l3-dvr-backlog | 15:06 |
| Swami | Link provides a list of all bugs. | 15:06 |
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| Swami | Most of the High bugs have assignee's and are worked out right now. | 15:08 |
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| Swami | There were couple of new bugs that was filed yesterday by Viveknarashimhan | 15:08 |
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| Rajeev | Swami: one thing to keep in mind, Jenkin queues are backed up so give sufficient time for runs | 15:09 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1364215 | 15:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1364215 in neutron "L2 Agent switch to non-dvr mode on first RPC failure" [Undecided,New] | 15:09 |
| viveknarasimhan | i raised that to handle | 15:10 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1364839 | 15:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1364839 in neutron "DVR namespaces not deleted on LBaaS VIP Port removal" [Undecided,In progress] | 15:10 |
| viveknarasimhan | the situation discussed in yesterdady meeting | 15:10 |
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| viveknarasimhan | 1364839 is to address removal LBaaS and DHCP Ports on dvr subnets from service nodes | 15:10 |
| Swami | viveknarasimhan: thanks for the update | 15:11 |
| Swami | viveknarasimhan: the check_vm_exists_on_host does it not take care of the dvr related ports right now. | 15:12 |
| viveknarasimhan | that takes care | 15:12 |
| Swami | so what was missing, in there | 15:13 |
| viveknarasimhan | but delete_port logic in ml2_plugin does not invoke deletion of namespaces for service pors. it was handling only | 15:13 |
| viveknarasimhan | for vm ports | 15:13 |
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| viveknarasimhan | i posted review here: | 15:13 |
| Swami | viveknarasimhan: ok | 15:13 |
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| Swami | for the 1364215 do we have fix | 15:13 |
| Swami | How severe is this bug | 15:14 |
| viveknarasimhan | that i am not fixing now | 15:14 |
| viveknarasimhan | will fix if we have a consensue that it needs to be fixed | 15:14 |
| viveknarasimhan | that was raised as a placeholder for issue seen in TriploO deployment of DVR | 15:14 |
| Swami | Ok let us wait till armax triages it | 15:14 |
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| viveknarasimhan | review link for 1364839 here: https://review.openstack.org/118580 | 15:15 |
| viveknarasimhan | ok | 15:15 |
| Swami | Is this issue seen in devstack or can be reproduced in devstack | 15:15 |
| viveknarasimhan | reproducible in devstack also | 15:16 |
| viveknarasimhan | if nodes start before controller | 15:16 |
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| viveknarasimhan | i presumed the issue you ask here is 1364215... | 15:17 |
| Swami | viveknarasimhan: yes | 15:17 |
| viveknarasimhan | yes, that is seen in devstack if nodes start much earlier than controlelr | 15:17 |
| Swami | viveknarasimhan: have you posted the patch for the SNAT namespace deletion that you added to the SNAT patch | 15:18 |
| viveknarasimhan | i posted that here: | 15:18 |
| Swami | as a separate patch | 15:18 |
| viveknarasimhan | and then it was Abandoned by armax | 15:18 |
| viveknarasimhan | since similar patch was posted by Carl here: | 15:18 |
| Swami | ok | 15:19 |
| Swami | There are couple of other patches that are pending review. | 15:19 |
| Swami | SNAT patch that gets rid of hints. | 15:19 |
| viveknarasimhan | is there plan to divide teh 'Refactor hints' patch | 15:19 |
| viveknarasimhan | into two | 15:20 |
| viveknarasimhan | or that is already being pursued? | 15:20 |
| Swami | Carl_baldwin: mentioned that he is trying to break it up into chunks instead of pushing it as a single patch | 15:20 |
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| Swami | So I am waiting on it. | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: I posted a link to my proposed work in the patch. | 15:20 |
| viveknarasimhan | swami: ok | 15:20 |
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| Swami | carl_baldwin: Yes I took a look at the proposed patch. | 15:21 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: are you planning to push the individual patches to gerrit | 15:21 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: I wanted your thoughts on it first. Then, either you or I could post them to gerrit. | 15:22 |
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| Swami | ok, I will review it once again today and will ping you | 15:22 |
| Swami | and then we can proceed | 15:23 |
| carl_baldwin | viveknarasimhan: I did not realize that you were duplicating that patch I posted. | 15:23 |
| viveknarasimhan | Carl: that is ok carl | 15:23 |
| viveknarasimhan | i did that patch as it fixed teh SNAT namespace deletion | 15:23 |
| viveknarasimhan | in conjunction with the refactor hints patch | 15:23 |
| carl_baldwin | viveknarasimhan: I just happened across it after having already approved the original patch that changed the name. | 15:23 |
| viveknarasimhan | so i put that change as dependency to refactor hints patch | 15:23 |
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| carl_baldwin | viveknarasimhan: ok | 15:24 |
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| Swami | The migration patch also is waiting for review. | 15:24 |
| viveknarasimhan | carl: thanks for finding and pushing that up | 15:24 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105855/ | 15:24 |
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| Swami | There is also another patch that is related to migration that I pushed in yesterday | 15:25 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118491/ | 15:25 |
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| Swami | mrsmith: Did you get a chance to review the migration patch, I cleaned it a bit after your commit. | 15:26 |
| mrsmith | not yet | 15:26 |
| mrsmith | I will this morning | 15:26 |
| Swami | mrsmith: thanks | 15:26 |
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| Swami | I think we are done with bugs | 15:27 |
| Swami | #topic Services | 15:27 |
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| Rajeev | I have one review targeted for Juno-3 waiting | 15:27 |
| Rajeev | Stop tracking connections in DVR FIP Namespace: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116412/ | 15:27 |
| Swami | The FWaaS team have posted a patch for DVR N-S support. | 15:27 |
| Rajeev | Swami: sorry to interrupt, since juno-3 is tomorrow | 15:28 |
| carl_baldwin | Rajeev: Actually, with the current gate pileup, nothing more will make juno-3. | 15:28 |
| Swami | Ok thanks | 15:28 |
| atiwari | hockeynut, yt? | 15:29 |
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| hockeynut | atiwari yessir | 15:29 |
| Rajeev | carl_baldwin: thanks. | 15:29 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: Does it mean even the bug fixes will not go through Juno 3 | 15:29 |
| atiwari | I have addressed some of your comments in my latest patch | 15:29 |
| carl_baldwin | Bug fixes can still go in after juno-3. | 15:29 |
| atiwari | I have also answered your questions | 15:30 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: thanks that what I wanted to confirm | 15:30 |
| atiwari | regarding the \ comment, is it ok to address in separate cr? | 15:30 |
| hockeynut | certainly | 15:30 |
| atiwari | hockeynut, ^ | 15:30 |
| Swami | atiwari: what patch are you talking about | 15:30 |
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| atiwari | sorry wrong room, I am very sorry | 15:31 |
| Swami | its ok | 15:31 |
| carl_baldwin | atiwari: :) | 15:31 |
| atiwari | carl_baldwin, :) | 15:31 |
| Swami | Let me get back to the Services discussion | 15:31 |
| Swami | The FWaaS team have posted a patch for DVR. | 15:31 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113359/ | 15:31 |
| Swami | FWaaS team had some issues in their rules not getting honored by the SNAT namespace. | 15:33 |
| Rajeev | Swami: I have couple of DVR patches I am working on, will try to take a look at FWaaS alongwith | 15:33 |
| Swami | SumitNaiksatam requested for a half hour call, if possible we should address that issue, since this patch has to go in today. | 15:34 |
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| Swami | amotoki: hi | 15:34 |
| amotoki | Swami: hi | 15:34 |
| Swami | Ok, we can go through the FWaaS issues with the FWaaS team today. | 15:35 |
| Swami | #topic horizon | 15:36 |
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| Swami | amotoki: hi | 15:36 |
| amotoki | I just got home a while ago :) | 15:36 |
| amotoki | patch series of DVR support in horizon have been merged. | 15:37 |
| Swami | amotoki: did you get a chance to work on the router edit page on horizon, sorry just checking. | 15:37 |
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| amotoki | enable_distributed_router flag is added to horizon settings. | 15:37 |
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| amotoki | Swami: both patches have been merged. | 15:37 |
| Swami | amotoki: great! | 15:37 |
| Swami | amotoki: can you provide me the links to both patches | 15:38 |
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| Swami | If you don't have it handy, it can do a look up in gerrit. | 15:38 |
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| amotoki | Swami: looking for it but my browser is now slow... | 15:39 |
| Swami | amotoki: fine, if you can send me an email later or I can take a look at it. | 15:39 |
| Swami | amotok: no worries | 15:40 |
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| Swami | amotoki: thanks for your help | 15:40 |
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| amotoki | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/horizon+branch:master+topic:bp/enhance-horizon-for-dvr,n,z | 15:40 |
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| Swami | amotoki: Thanks for the links | 15:41 |
| Swami | amotoki: bhooshan: great job. Well done in a short span | 15:41 |
| viveknarasimhan | amotoki: thanks a lot for your timely help in horizon for dvr | 15:41 |
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| Swami | #topic Open-Discussion | 15:41 |
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| Swami | Any other open discussion for the DVR | 15:42 |
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| amotoki | one question. how does DVR experimental job run? | 15:42 |
| amotoki | do we use multinode testing? | 15:43 |
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| Swami | From next week let us plan on addressing some features for the Kilo | 15:43 |
| Swami | amotoki: I don't think the multinode is up yet | 15:43 |
| carl_baldwin | amotoki: Still no multi-node testing. I think there has been some slow progress on it but it is not here. | 15:43 |
| Swami | we are still using the single node setup. | 15:43 |
| Swami | amotoki: there was a patch for review on mutlinode but it is still under review. | 15:44 |
| carl_baldwin | I had a question just come up about attaching a vlan network to a distributed router. | 15:44 |
| carl_baldwin | Will there be an error if one attempts to do this or will it fail silently under the hood? | 15:44 |
| amotoki | Swami: carl_baldwin: thanks. will check the review. | 15:45 |
| Swami | viveknarasimhan: any comments on the vlan | 15:45 |
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| viveknarasimhan | vlan | 15:45 |
| viveknarasimhan | is not supported in teh current architecture | 15:45 |
| Swami | viveknarasimhan: see the message above from carl_baldwin | 15:45 |
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| Swami | will it throw an error or fail silently | 15:46 |
| viveknarasimhan | i have to check about routing. | 15:46 |
| viveknarasimhan | switching will continue to work e | 15:46 |
| viveknarasimhan | it will not throw errors | 15:46 |
| viveknarasimhan | if network type is vlan, we donot apply any flows | 15:46 |
| viveknarasimhan | routing will fail | 15:46 |
| viveknarasimhan | switching will continue to work | 15:47 |
| carl_baldwin | viveknarasimhan: So, there will be no API error? The end user will see success from the API? | 15:47 |
| viveknarasimhan | yes, he will see success | 15:47 |
| viveknarasimhan | not sure if the plugin validates if this is a tunneltype network | 15:47 |
| viveknarasimhan | rathern than vlan network | 15:48 |
| viveknarasimhan | swami: can you please clarify on that question by carl | 15:48 |
| Swami | viveknarasimhan: Will there be an error if one attempts to do this or will it fail silently under the hood? | 15:48 |
| viveknarasimhan | it is not checked, so it will succeed | 15:48 |
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| viveknarasimhan | what do we mean by failure? | 15:48 |
| Swami | viveknarasimhan: I think you have answered | 15:48 |
| viveknarasimhan | routing will fail | 15:48 |
| viveknarasimhan | switching will succeed | 15:48 |
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| carl_baldwin | viveknarasimhan: I mean will the API call fail. Sounds like it will not. | 15:49 |
| Swami | from an api perspective it will not through any errors. | 15:49 |
| viveknarasimhan | the plugin does not stop adding vlan subnet to dvr | 15:49 |
| carl_baldwin | Okay. Thanks. | 15:49 |
| carl_baldwin | I’ll put a bug in to the backlog. | 15:49 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: thanks that would help | 15:50 |
| Swami | thanks everyone for joining the call. | 15:50 |
| Swami | See you all next week | 15:50 |
| Swami | bye | 15:50 |
| Swami | #endmeeting | 15:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 3 15:50:49 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-09-03-15.02.html | 15:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-09-03-15.02.txt | 15:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-09-03-15.02.log.html | 15:50 |
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| Sukhdev | Hello ML2'ers | 16:00 |
| yamamoto | hi | 16:00 |
| rkukura | hi | 16:00 |
| banix_ | hi | 16:00 |
| romilg | Hi... | 16:00 |
| Sukhdev | Time to get started | 16:00 |
| Sukhdev | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 3 16:00:45 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:00 |
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| shivharis | hi | 16:00 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_September_3.2C_2014 | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | topic: Announcements - | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | The FF for Juno is over as of this morning | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | Anything which is not already merged will be removed from Juno and moved into Kilo | 16:02 |
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| shivharis | one thing to keep in mind the feature freeze happens a day before the announced date - due to queuing of patches etc. | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | shivharis: correct | 16:03 |
| rkukura | clarification - this is anything not already approved | 16:03 |
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| rkukura | things approved and in the merge queue (which is 18 hours behind) may make Juno | 16:03 |
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| emagana | sorry, I am late! | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: thanks for clarification - want to add more? | 16:03 |
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| rkukura | There is an FFE process to get additional features in | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | emagana: you will buy cookies for everybody :-) | 16:04 |
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| emagana | Sukhdev: cookies? what about beer? | 16:04 |
| rkukura | But my understanding is that FFEs are only for medium and high priority BPs | 16:04 |
| rkukura | Which unfortunately excludes all vendor drivers | 16:05 |
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| emagana | rkukura: I believe just for High priority BPs | 16:05 |
| emagana | rkukura: an essetial of course! | 16:05 |
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| rkukura | emagana: Not sure about that, but you may be right | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: how about couple of our BPs? Shall we make a case or not? | 16:05 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: I think this is something we should discuss here now | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: correct - that's why I brought it up | 16:06 |
| rkukura | The hierarchical port binding BP was high, but I think is now medium | 16:07 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: depends upon how many vendors need it - | 16:07 |
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| rkukura | The 3rd part of the type driver refactor and the external ports are the other medium BPs | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | This is the time to speak up - if you believe you (or your company) plans to use it | 16:08 |
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| asadoughi | hi | 16:08 |
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| asomya | Sukhdev: we at Cisco plan to use it | 16:09 |
| rkukura | The Cisco DFA driver was planning to use hierarchical port binding in Juno, but its VDP patch was deferred to Juno, and then the rest of it | 16:09 |
| rcurran | rkukura, Sukhdev +1 for cisco_nexus md requiring | 16:09 |
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| banix_ | asadoughi: look what you did! :) | 16:09 |
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| rkukura | I think Cisco’s hope was that the drivers not using in Juno would do so early in Kilo, and then backport to stable-juno | 16:10 |
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| rcurran | rkukura, correct | 16:10 |
| rkukura | rcurran: Is that accurate? | 16:10 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: Any body else? | 16:11 |
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| rkukura | So it is a real issue for Cisco at least if this doesn’t get an FFE, but its hard to justfiy the FFE for just one vendor when no merged code needs the feature. | 16:11 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: that is why I am trying to see if somebody else would jump in as well | 16:11 |
| trinaths | Hi all | 16:12 |
| rkukura | I think the net split might be one reason noone is responding | 16:12 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: I think we should make a strong case for it, and be willing to accept the defeat - if we could not get through | 16:13 |
| rkukura | Are there any other mechanism drivers that would potentially make use of hierarchical port binding early in Kilo, and backport this to Juno if this BP gets an FFE and makes Juno? | 16:13 |
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| nlahouti | cisco DFA | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | I checked at Arista, we will use it in the late stage of Kilo (or bit later) | 16:14 |
| shivharis | not for brocade | 16:14 |
| rkukura | Is stabiizing the driver API in Juno rather than waiting for Kilo an argument for an FFE (of course there will be other changes in Kilo, …)? | 16:14 |
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| rcurran | rkukura, i take it at this point you don't need to see my continual +1's | 16:15 |
| rkukura | rcurran: I’m not rulling out applying for an FFE. | 16:16 |
| trinaths | For FSL, we will use at later stage. | 16:16 |
| asomya | rkukura: +1, also if we push this into Juno, vendors can start writing drivers based on it as soon as Kilo opens.. otherwise wait for this to go into Kilo and risk not getting their drivers upstream | 16:16 |
| rkukura | mestery has not entirely ruled it out either, AFAIK | 16:16 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: it seems reasonable argument - we have a vendor who needs it now and also we get to bake the API | 16:16 |
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| trinaths | +1 rkukura. | 16:17 |
| rkukura | Is there anyone here who would object to an FFE for the heirarchical port binding BP patches to merge in Juno? | 16:17 |
| Sukhdev | asomya: agree | 16:17 |
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| Sukhdev | Are Akihiro and Amando here? | 16:18 |
| amotoki | Sukhdev: hi | 16:18 |
| Sukhdev | amotoki: I saw your -1 on the patch, and thought, perhaps you would want to jump into this discussion | 16:19 |
| amotoki | Sukhdev: thanks for letting me know. I don't have a strong opinion on it. Bob's reply also sounds reasonable to me. | 16:19 |
| rkukura | amotoki: Would you have any objection to an FFE being granted if we decide to request one? | 16:20 |
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| amotoki | rkukura: no | 16:20 |
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| rkukura | OK, sounds like its worth a shot, although with its priority now at medium, it may not fly. | 16:21 |
| amotoki | rkukura: i just would like to clarify what value we can have if it is merged in Juno. | 16:21 |
| Sukhdev | What is Amando's IRC? | 16:21 |
| padkrish | atleast DFA will start using it early in kilo...well, ofcourse after the BP gets re-approved and so on... | 16:21 |
| amotoki | rkukura: i think it is a good shape and row risk to me. | 16:21 |
| Sukhdev | He also had -1 with strong comments | 16:21 |
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| emagana | Sukhdev: it is armax | 16:22 |
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| rkukura | amotoki: That what we’ve been discussing - mostly at this point just enabling the drivers to make use of this in early Kilo, and potentially backport to Juno | 16:22 |
| Sukhdev | armax: are you here? | 16:22 |
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| Sukhdev | emagana: Thx | 16:22 |
| rkukura | I believe I’ve addressed armax’s concerns in gerrit | 16:22 |
| chuckC | armax is not online right now | 16:23 |
| amotoki | rkukura: exactly. I am now reading the log. | 16:23 |
| rkukura | Of course, if an FFE is granted, it still wouldn’t merge until his concerns are resolved. | 16:23 |
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| emagana | If the value for the heirarchical port binding BP is just having a vendor specific driver advantage, then I am not in favor!! | 16:23 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: cool - looks like we seem to have converged | 16:23 |
| rkukura | Are there other ML2 BPs we should discuss FFEs for? | 16:23 |
| rkukura | emagana: Its not an advantage for any one vendor - its useful to all | 16:24 |
| Sukhdev | #action: rkukura to work on getting FFE for two port binding BPs | 16:24 |
| emagana | rkukura: Let me explain it better, which driver will use it in Juno? | 16:24 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: One one BP, but three patches | 16:24 |
| emagana | rkukura: if it gets merged? | 16:25 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: opps.. | 16:25 |
| amotoki | I know cases where vxlan offload on server side does not work effectively and switch side network overlay is needed for performance. | 16:25 |
| rkukura | emagana: The design was done during the Juno summit, with multiple vendors participating. Merging it allows them all to proceed with taking advantage of it in their drivers, at whatever pace they choose | 16:26 |
| amotoki | my comment comes from not as a plugin maintainer but as one of operators using OpenStack. | 16:26 |
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| rkukura | amotoki: That’s useful to know! | 16:27 |
| Sukhdev | amotoki: I have heard it form many people as well (including customers) | 16:27 |
| emagana | rkukura: Got it! Well, I understand it better.. I think is worth to give it a shot for FFE | 16:27 |
| rkukura | The advantage of the hierarchical binding is that it lets vendor-specific ToR drivers coexist and work toghether with open source host-level drivers like openvswitch, hyperv, ... | 16:27 |
| Sukhdev | #action-undo | 16:27 |
| rkukura | emagana: thanks | 16:28 |
| amotoki | what we need to consider is the timing such change in the framework is proposed. | 16:28 |
| Sukhdev | #action: rkukura to work on getting FFE for port binding BP | 16:28 |
| rkukura | amotoki: Lets have that discussion around the FFE | 16:28 |
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| Sukhdev | Anything else on this topic? | 16:29 |
| rkukura | Other BPs? | 16:29 |
| rkukura | what about external attachement points? | 16:29 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: has reworked this to make it much simpler | 16:29 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: It was not approved as of last night - did not check this morning | 16:30 |
| rkukura | Wanted to see if kevinbenton was considering an FFE for this? | 16:30 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: Mark gave -2 on both of his patches | 16:31 |
| rkukura | I’m not hearing any other FFEs being proposed, so time to move on Sukhdev | 16:31 |
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| amotoki | I see one point to be discussed on external attachment points. It allow to change tenant_id to allow users to use the external attachment point. | 16:32 |
| Sukhdev | Any thing else folks? | 16:32 |
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| sadasu | How about the cisco ucs manager ml2 driver? | 16:32 |
| sadasu | I would like to get an FFE for that | 16:32 |
| Sukhdev | amotoki: I kind of like that BP and would have wished that it made it | 16:32 |
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| amotoki | Sukhdev: yes. I don't continue the discussion here. | 16:33 |
| sadasu | are vendor specific drivers even considered for FFEs? | 16:33 |
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| rkukura | sadasu: My undestanding is that they are not, but you may want to get clarification from mestery | 16:33 |
| Sukhdev | sadasu: it will be hard - what do you think rkukura? | 16:33 |
| emagana | sadasu: Neutron PTL indicated that not! | 16:33 |
| padkrish | Even i made a request for FFE for VDP BP....that's not really vendor specific...PTL has moved it to Kilo | 16:34 |
| mestery | sadasu: Generally no, extenuating circumstances not included | 16:34 |
| amotoki | I think FFEs are limited number of BPs up to about ~5(?) | 16:34 |
| amotoki | we need to keep them controlled. | 16:34 |
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| Sukhdev | mestery: sadasu was so close - I thought it was ready to merge | 16:34 |
| sadasu | I think I get the picture :-) | 16:35 |
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| rkukura | I also was ready to +2 the UCS driver as soon as it was updated | 16:35 |
| emagana | sadasu: Is the a CI for Cisco UCS Manager? | 16:35 |
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| emagana | I mean: "Is there" | 16:35 |
| sadasu | emagana: yes...I have it ready..just not integrated yet | 16:35 |
| Sukhdev | mestery: rkukura's point is compelling in her favor :-) | 16:36 |
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| Sukhdev | Anyhow folks, we have discussed enough - time to move on | 16:36 |
| amotoki | sadasu: emagana: we don't see any results on UCS from Cisco CI *now* | 16:36 |
| emagana | sadasu: I will recommend working with dane on integrating all Cisco CIs if possible.. you have a few already ;-) | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Action Items from past week: | 16:37 |
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| sadasu | Sukhdev: thanks! | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: want to provide update? | 16:37 |
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| rkukura | I have not yet submitted bugs on the DVR-related cleanup and issue, but will focus on that between FF and RC1 | 16:38 |
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| rkukura | So lets keep that AI open, assuming these kinds of fixes are appropriate during this window | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: sounds good - Will keep it open then | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev | On the second item - I see nlahouti and rkukura got the victory | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | I see that patch has merged - congratulations nlahouti... | 16:39 |
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| nlahouti | Sukhdev: thx | 16:40 |
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| nlahouti | Sukhdev: :) | 16:40 |
| emagana | Sukhdev: +1 | 16:40 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Code Reviews | 16:40 |
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| rkukura | I think there is some movement towards implementing more of the optional APIs in ML2 as extension drivers | 16:40 |
| Sukhdev | We have pretty much cover this area | 16:40 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: can you clarify, please? | 16:41 |
| rkukura | This was related to nlahouti’s patch, and various reviewers coming around to seeing its value (asside from vendor-specific extensions) | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: got it....thanks | 16:42 |
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| Sukhdev | BTW, I updated the wiki https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Tracking_ML2_Subgroup_Reviews#Under_Review last night - many patches have merged - congratulations to those who made it... | 16:43 |
| Sukhdev | Anything on Code reviews? | 16:43 |
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| Sukhdev | Going forward we will start to put emphasis on bugs and planning for Kilo Summit | 16:44 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Bugs: | 16:44 |
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| Sukhdev | shivharis: want to provide update? | 16:44 |
| shivharis | one bug "high" for j3 | 16:45 |
| shivharis | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1359416 (status: high - j3, akihiro?) | 16:45 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1359416 in neutron "RPC callback should not use mixin approach" [High,In progress] | 16:45 |
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| amotoki | yes.core patches already landed. | 16:45 |
| amotoki | two cleanup patches are remaining. one fixes only comments and the other fixes a degrade in mellanox plugin. | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev | amotoki: I was hit by this, and saw the patch merge - took care of my issue | 16:46 |
| irenab | amotoki: I'll take a look for mellanox plugin | 16:46 |
| rkukura | Looks like mellanox fix is already approved and in the merge queue | 16:47 |
| amotoki | irenab: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118165/ | 16:47 |
| irenab | amotoki: thanks | 16:47 |
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| shivharis | amotoki: ? | 16:48 |
| shivharis | this was the only one one my list that seemed important, i guess this will be juno | 16:48 |
| shivharis | all others "bulk" etc will also be juno | 16:48 |
| shivharis | moving forward we need to be more focused on bugs, not new code | 16:48 |
| shivharis | amotoki: can this wait for Juno or do we need to make exception? | 16:48 |
| amotoki | shivharis: which one? | 16:49 |
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| banix_ | should get the rpc patches by amotoki in this cycle | 16:49 |
| rkukura | between FF and RC1 is a good time to fix bugs, IMHO | 16:49 |
| shivharis | irenab, amotoki: we will move this to J | 16:49 |
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| rkukura | shivharis: This is J | 16:49 |
| shivharis | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118165/ | 16:50 |
| amotoki | shivharis: most changes have been merged and it will shipped with J-3. | 16:50 |
| Sukhdev | banix_: I had left some comment on your patch regarding second bug in the list - are you going to get it in Juno? | 16:50 |
| banix_ | shivharis: j | 16:50 |
| amotoki | 118165 will be a part of j-3. | 16:50 |
| shivharis | rkukura: +1 | 16:50 |
| banix_ | Sukhdev: thanks; have been away for several days; back from today | 16:50 |
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| shivharis | amotoki: ok | 16:50 |
| Sukhdev | banix_: This good work and am wondering if it will land in Juno? | 16:51 |
| banix_ | Sukhdev: your concern about testing, i have done unit tests only; what kind of tests do you want? specific to vendor plugins? | 16:51 |
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| shivharis | Any other questions on bugs? | 16:51 |
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| banix_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113999/ | 16:51 |
| Sukhdev | banix_: my concern is that if this is merged and implemented only partially, would it have any ill effects on the drivers | 16:52 |
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| Sukhdev | banix_: worried about last minute chaos in the release | 16:52 |
| banix_ | Sukhdev: i see; by partially you mean only bulk network, right? | 16:52 |
| Sukhdev | banix_:correct | 16:52 |
| banix_ | i can update the patch shortly to cover subnet and ports as well; have the code was wondering if it would be easier to review a piece of it first | 16:53 |
| Sukhdev | banix_: rkukura had the same concerns | 16:53 |
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| Sukhdev | banix_: we discussed it here last week - you were not present | 16:53 |
| banix_ | sure; thought this way the review will be easier; will update the patch with bulk ops for subnet and ports; the same framework; will address other comments as well | 16:54 |
| rkukura | banix_: +1 | 16:54 |
| shivharis | banix_: will this be "requiring" changes in MDs | 16:54 |
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| banix_ | shivharis: no | 16:54 |
| Sukhdev | banix_: Thanks | 16:54 |
| banix_ | the only change beyond the main plugin is in a couple of places in unit tests for a cisco driver; that’s all. | 16:55 |
| shivharis | banix_: thx | 16:55 |
| Sukhdev | Anything else on the bugs? | 16:55 |
| amotoki | what do you think about https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1179223 ? | 16:55 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1179223 in neutron "Retired GRE and VXLAN tunnels persists in neutron db" [Medium,Confirmed] | 16:55 |
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| shivharis | that's all from me... | 16:55 |
| romilg | I am working on it | 16:55 |
| amotoki | what I am thinking is to delete related endpoint when agent-delete is called. | 16:56 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Open Discussion | 16:56 |
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| romilg | wht abt when we change the local_ip of any agent ? | 16:56 |
| Sukhdev | we have 4 minutes | 16:56 |
| Sukhdev | anybody want to bring up anything here? | 16:57 |
| amotoki | romilg: let's discuss the arppoach in launchpad bug. | 16:57 |
| padkrish | sukhdev# for those that didn't make it to Juno, in spite of lots of reviews....do they have to start from square1? I mean, from Getting the BP re-approved ? | 16:57 |
| romilg | Ok :) | 16:57 |
| amotoki | it is a headache to me too. | 16:57 |
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| Sukhdev | padkrish: Good question - I do not believe you have to go through the BP approval process | 16:58 |
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| amotoki | padkrish: we don't have a concrete process for Kilo. | 16:58 |
| shivharis | yes the bp needs re-approval | 16:58 |
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| Sukhdev | Anybody has better answer? | 16:58 |
| banix_ | padkrish: bp needs to be re approved but perhaps will go through quickly | 16:58 |
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| trinaths | BP needs approval | 16:58 |
| banix_ | padkrish: since it was already approved once | 16:58 |
| trinaths | the process starts again. | 16:58 |
| shivharis | PTL mentioned re-approval for bps | 16:58 |
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| padkrish | thanks everyone...another question regarding the functional tests... | 16:59 |
| trinaths | shivharis: that means we need to re post the BP ? | 16:59 |
| shivharis | yup | 16:59 |
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| Sukhdev | I think mestery is already tagging them for Kilo | 16:59 |
| banix_ | trinaths: yes; some discussions on ml a week or so ago | 16:59 |
| padkrish | If openstack interacts with any external modules like brctl, OVS etc. it needs functional test cases? Any links/pointers apart from neutron/test/functional? | 16:59 |
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| Sukhdev | so. may require some minor process | 17:00 |
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| trinaths | when will the k-1 process open, timeline? | 17:01 |
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| amotoki | it seems time is over. | 17:01 |
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| shivharis | your bp will get a -2 and thats where the process begins for re-approval | 17:01 |
| shivharis | kilo bps are in a diffeent directory | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | padkrish: how about tempest/tempest/scenario tests? | 17:01 |
| yamamoto | time to move to #openstack-neutron i guess | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | amotoki: yes time is up - thanks for remider | 17:01 |
| trinaths | okay bye all. | 17:02 |
| Sukhdev | folks we are done - thanks | 17:02 |
| banix_ | bye | 17:02 |
| rkukura | thanks Sukhdev ! | 17:02 |
| yamamoto | bye | 17:02 |
| padkrish | sukhdev# Thnx...let's continue our discussion in other channels | 17:02 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 17:02 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:02 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 3 17:02:07 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-09-03-16.00.html | 17:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-09-03-16.00.txt | 17:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-09-03-16.00.log.html | 17:02 |
| Kiall | #startmeeting Designate | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 3 17:02:22 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Kiall. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:02 |
| Kiall | Hey all - Who's about? | 17:02 |
| mugsie | o/ | 17:02 |
| vinod1 | o/ | 17:02 |
| betsy | o/ | 17:02 |
| eankutse | o/ | 17:02 |
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| Sukhdev | padkrish: switching to neutron channel | 17:02 |
| rjrjr | o/ | 17:02 |
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| Kiall | #topic Action Items from last week | 17:02 |
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| timsim | o/ | 17:02 |
| Kiall | 1st was rjrjr_ to incorporate periodic sync into SP manager spec | 17:02 |
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| Kiall | rjrjr: I saw a review a couple of mins ago, was it ^? | 17:03 |
| timsim | Kiall: That was storage. | 17:03 |
| rjrjr | should have the spec done today. next couple of hours. | 17:03 |
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| Kiall | rjrjr: perfect :) | 17:03 |
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| Kiall | timsim: whoops! Haven't looked at it yet ;) | 17:03 |
| Kiall | 2nd was Kiall to review j-3 viablity of TSIG BPs | 17:03 |
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| Kiall | We hit a bug in dnspython that made it impossible to implement TSIG :( | 17:04 |
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| Kiall | There was a fix, but it wasn't released until a day or so ago | 17:04 |
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| Kiall | So - I've pushed those to kilo-1 | 17:04 |
| Kiall | 3rd was mugsie look at the client release | 17:05 |
| eankutse | Glad dnspython devs were responsive | 17:05 |
| mugsie | yup - that was for betsy's SOA change | 17:05 |
| mugsie | which wasn't the issue | 17:05 |
| Kiall | eankutse: yep, he did the release the day after I emailed, but time was difficult! | 17:05 |
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| eankutse | cool | 17:05 |
| Kiall | mugsie: OK, ekarlso's asking for a release too for the rally stuff he did.. I'll cut one today. | 17:05 |
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| Kiall | #action kiall to do client release today | 17:06 |
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| Kiall | #topic Release Status | 17:06 |
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| ekarlso | yay | 17:06 |
| Kiall | #link https://launchpad.net/designate/+milestone/juno-3 | 17:06 |
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| Kiall | j3 is tomorrow.. So, anything we don't land today is pushed! | 17:06 |
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| mugsie | and the gate is up to mad levels ;) | 17:07 |
| Kiall | As always ;) | 17:07 |
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| mugsie | ttx emailed people and asked all projects to avoid any unessasary commits being +A'd | 17:07 |
| mugsie | emailed the -dev list* | 17:07 |
| Kiall | Anyway - I think we're in a good position - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118436/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118625/ would be nice to land, that's all I know of before hand | 17:07 |
| Kiall | off hand* | 17:07 |
| mugsie | yup | 17:07 |
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| Kiall | Anyone have any other reviews they feel need to land? | 17:07 |
| mugsie | nope - but i think we should have a FF exception for the domain transfer btween tenant | 17:08 |
| mugsie | s | 17:08 |
| vinod1 | what is FF exception ? | 17:08 |
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| Kiall | Yes, I think so too, have you had time to finish the rebase? | 17:08 |
| mugsie | not yet - but the next few evenins should see it done | 17:09 |
| Kiall | feature freeze exception.. i.e. landing a feature after j-3 | 17:09 |
| betsy | What about the remove priority in v2? | 17:09 |
| betsy | That’s done, but I don’t see it in the list | 17:09 |
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| Kiall | betsy: also agreed, getting rid of that before juno proper would be great - as it's an API diff | 17:09 |
| betsy | Or, did it go in j-2? | 17:10 |
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| Kiall | I didn't think it did! Can't remember off hand | 17:10 |
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| betsy | I didn’t think so either | 17:11 |
| Kiall | #action Kiall to discuss FF exceptions with theirry during 1:1 tomorrow. | 17:11 |
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| Kiall | betsy: I'll check them out tomorrow, just in case it hasn't ;) | 17:11 |
| Kiall | So.. Anything else on j3 before we move on | 17:12 |
| betsy | kiall: thx | 17:12 |
| Kiall | before we move on?* | 17:12 |
| Kiall | I'm taking silence as a no! | 17:12 |
| Kiall | #topic Server Pools - Minidns finalize outstanding comments (vinod) | 17:12 |
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| Kiall | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112688/1/specs/juno/server-pools-minidns-support.rst | 17:13 |
| Kiall | vinod1: you're up | 17:13 |
| vinod1 | I wanted to clarify the comments on poll_for_serial_number | 17:13 |
| vinod1 | In particular the return status | 17:14 |
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| vinod1 | My reasoning on having the different return values was "If there are multiple updates in a short time, we could end up with 2 or more outstanding poll requests. So a response could potentially have a serial number newer than the one we are looking for. So if return a SUCCESS_NEWER, the pool manager can update all the outstanding requests till the returned serial number" | 17:14 |
| vinod1 | Does this make sense? | 17:14 |
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| Kiall | It does, but can then same not be done with a simple return of (SUCCESS, serial) rather than (SUCCESS_NEWER, serial) ? | 17:15 |
| eankutse | so what if there is more than 2 outstnding? | 17:15 |
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| timsim | Shouldn't a successful return automatically set all of the ones with a lower serial? | 17:15 |
| rjrjr | should we return the serial number? | 17:15 |
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| Kiall | timsim: exactly :) | 17:16 |
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| Kiall | rjrjr: The proposal does, it returns 2 values - a status and the serial. I think the comments are questioning what the possible statuses should be | 17:16 |
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| vinod1 | How about for the error case? | 17:16 |
| vinod1 | ERROR_LOWER | 17:17 |
| vinod1 | expire time has elapsed. The actual_serial number from the last SOA response is returned. | 17:17 |
| vinod1 | ERROR_TIMEOUT | 17:17 |
| vinod1 | expire time has elapsed. There was no SOA response at all from the nameserver. In this case the serial number returned is invalid and should not be used. | 17:17 |
| vinod1 | Do we need 2 different ERROR values or do we have a special serial number to indicate the ERROR_TIMEOUT case? | 17:18 |
| Kiall | I guess I wonder what value we get from distinguishing between ERROR_TIMEOUT and ERROR_LOWER, from a user of the API, they really should only have to care if it worked or not | 17:18 |
| rjrjr | not sure why we need status outside of serial number. return the serial number. if there is an error, throw an exception. the calling side will know what to do with the serial number. | 17:18 |
| timsim | I feel like either way it's going to be in ERROR and be retried anyway right? | 17:18 |
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| Kiall | rjrjr: good point actually, we use exceptions to indicate a failure rather than a return value | 17:19 |
| vinod1 | With the ERROR_LOWER case, we could update all the pending up to the serial number returned with a success | 17:19 |
| mugsie | well, this is an out going call | 17:19 |
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| mugsie | so throwing an execption in mdns wont let central know | 17:19 |
| mugsie | s/central/pool manager/ | 17:20 |
| rjrjr | seems we are encapsulating logic in this call that should be on the calling side. i thought server pools was making this call? | 17:20 |
| Kiall | vinod1: well, pretend we only returned the serial number for a minute.. With just that, we can already update everything that's completed | 17:20 |
| Kiall | mugsie: yes, it will be returned over RPC | 17:20 |
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| mugsie | this is an out going call from mdsn-> pool manager | 17:21 |
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| Kiall | mugsie: that's not how I read the spec? | 17:21 |
| mugsie | thats what was dicussed in Seattle | 17:22 |
| mugsie | as it is a long running operation | 17:22 |
| rjrjr | also, timeout, retry, expire should just be timout and retry. | 17:22 |
| vinod1 | If we make the poll_for_serial_number as non-blocking (i.e. as an rpc cast) then we would need an outgoing call | 17:22 |
| mugsie | so we cast the request to do it, and the mdns calls back with the result | 17:22 |
| rjrjr | tim mentioned this in my server pools spec. the expire is not needd. | 17:22 |
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| mugsie | we said we were goign to make it a cast as it could be a quite lng runnign operation | 17:23 |
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| Kiall | mugsie / vinod1 - Okay, I see what your saying now. poll_for_serial_number is a PoolMgr->mDNS call, as discussed. But the *response* from that is a separate mDNS->PoolMgr call | 17:23 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:24 |
| vinod1 | rjrjr: I put in timeout, retry, expire to mimic the soa. if we remove expire, then we would need a number_of_retries | 17:24 |
| rjrjr | timeout, retry interval, number of retries. expire seems strange to me. | 17:24 |
| vinod1 | i will remove expire and add a number_of_retries | 17:25 |
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| rjrjr | also, why make it a cast? just have server pool make the call and handle it. | 17:25 |
| mugsie | rjrjr: its too long running | 17:26 |
| Kiall | rjrjr: So, poolmgr will need to make N of these each time a change happens, if you use a call, you have to do them in serial rather than parallel | 17:26 |
| timsim | rjrjr: It also involves DNS protocol (ie checking if something is active) which we wanted to isolate in MiniDNS | 17:26 |
| Kiall | If we could fire them all off, and then wait for all to complete, that would be fine IMO | 17:26 |
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| rjrjr | we could kick off threads for each of the requests? | 17:26 |
| Kiall | rjrjr: True, we could. | 17:27 |
| rjrjr | that makes more sense to me than having a cast (callback?) | 17:27 |
| Kiall | So - If this was a call rather than cast, does the issue go away? | 17:28 |
| Kiall | I think it does, since the method can just return the serial, or raise an exception. | 17:28 |
| mugsie | but, on a busy pool manager, this could present a problem | 17:28 |
| mugsie | kicking off 100s of threads | 17:28 |
| vinod1 | how well can we scale up in the pool manager having calls vs casts? | 17:29 |
| timsim | Out of the Pool Manager-to MiniDNS? I feel like that could fall over if a lot of the DNS servers were unresponsive. | 17:29 |
| Kiall | mugsie: greenthreads, so virtually no overhead | 17:29 |
| mugsie | but there is an upper limit... | 17:29 |
| rjrjr | won't minidns have the same issue though? | 17:29 |
| mugsie | I am not sure what the problem with the callback solutiion is | 17:29 |
| timsim | mugsie: me either. | 17:29 |
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| mugsie | there is no real problem.... just disagreements about a functions arguements | 17:30 |
| timsim | With the large number of these that could get kicked off, it seems cleaner to me to just fire them off, not wait for them. | 17:30 |
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| Kiall | mugsie: Well, as rjrjr said in not so many words, it's a break from the norm in Designate.. And, as a result, we're trying to figure out how best to handle "callbacks" rather than worrying about implementing the feature ;) | 17:30 |
| mugsie | not really | 17:31 |
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| Kiall | (I'm not saying callbacks are bad, or that we should change our minds, simply discussing the options) | 17:31 |
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| timsim | Should we vote? | 17:32 |
| mugsie | yeah - we went around this rabbit hole for 30 mins in seattle, and decided it was a better option to do the callbacks. | 17:32 |
| Kiall | timsim: Yea, I do agree - Fire and forget is certainly cleaner.. | 17:32 |
| rjrjr | so, this function returns nothing then? | 17:33 |
| rjrjr | sorry, method? | 17:33 |
| mugsie | in minidns? no | 17:33 |
| Kiall | rjrjr: correct | 17:33 |
| Kiall | It call's back out to poolmgr whenever it's ready and has something useful to report | 17:34 |
| vinod1 | so I am assuming 'cast' it is | 17:34 |
| betsy | sounds like it | 17:35 |
| rjrjr | seems like we are deciding on a solution to a problem that may or may not exist. | 17:35 |
| Kiall | Okay, So back to the issue at hand ;) Regardless of if it's a callback or not.. the data passed back to central would be the same - the Q is what should that data be | 17:35 |
| Kiall | what that data should be* | 17:35 |
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| timsim | If you have the serial in hand, I don't see a reason not to pass it back? | 17:36 |
| Kiall | I'm a fan of a simple status - SUCCESS/FAILURE, along with the current serial number (if known) | 17:36 |
| mugsie | yeah: ++ ^ | 17:36 |
| timsim | Kiall: +1 | 17:36 |
| vinod1 | In the case of ERROR_TIMEOUT what do we return for the serial number - a null value? | 17:36 |
| Kiall | vinod1: Yea, None would make sense where it's unknown | 17:37 |
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| vinod1 | Okay - I will update the spec to reflect this discussion | 17:38 |
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| Kiall | The code on the far side needs to be able to deal with that anyway (it's either `if serial is None` or an `if status == "ERROR_TIMEOUT" or status == "ERROR_BADPACKET" or .. ` etc | 17:38 |
| rjrjr | how many of these casts do we have? trying to fit the server pool spec to this spec is why i'm wondering. | 17:39 |
| rjrjr | sorry, pool manager spec. | 17:40 |
| vinod1 | rjrjr: Do you mean how many functions? | 17:40 |
| Kiall | rjrjr: every time the content of a zone change's multiplied by the number of backend DNS servers | 17:40 |
| Kiall | changes* | 17:40 |
| rjrjr | correct. i've been following your spec for specifics in my spec (hence my using expire as a parameter). | 17:40 |
| rjrjr | is this the only callback i need to add? | 17:41 |
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| vinod1 | yes - that is the only callback. notify_zone_changed is also a cast - but in this case, there is no callback | 17:41 |
| mugsie | i think so... | 17:41 |
| rjrjr | does python allow me to pass the callback method as an argument? | 17:41 |
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| mugsie | you won't need to do that, just have an externally face rpc api method that mdns calls | 17:42 |
| mugsie | s/calls/casts to/ | 17:42 |
| mugsie | with the logic in it | 17:42 |
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| Kiall | rjrjr: so, these are less like JS callbacks where you pass a function reference and more along the lines of the mDNS method making an outgoing RPC call to poolmgr | 17:42 |
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| Kiall | And, to answer the first Q - Yes, I believe this is the only method where the CB pattern is used | 17:43 |
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| rjrjr | and we are absolute sure we need/want it? | 17:44 |
| mugsie | I think so | 17:44 |
| timsim | Yessir. | 17:44 |
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| mugsie | we ok to move on then? | 17:45 |
| Kiall | rjrjr: I think we could live without it. But, It's defiantly cleaner for this kind of thing. If the implementation turns into a rats nest, we can circle back. For now, let's stick with the agreed plan! | 17:45 |
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| rjrjr | +1 | 17:45 |
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| Kiall | Okay, moving on :) | 17:46 |
| Kiall | #topic Server Pools - what items can we start next? (vinod) | 17:46 |
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| Kiall | And.. Pools again :D | 17:46 |
| vinod1 | I thought once the Server Pools -mdns spec is approved, I can start working on it | 17:47 |
| mugsie | yup - but it will be hard to test it | 17:47 |
| mugsie | but i think that work can happen | 17:47 |
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| vinod1 | Yes - but since I have time now to work on the next item - I thought I will get started on it | 17:48 |
| mugsie | as can the work of getting the manager started (in a basic form) as well | 17:48 |
| Kiall | We're a day off j3, which is feature freeze.. So we can't land any of these in master.. But, We can A) submit WIP reviews.. (Hard to collaborate tho), or B) Fork to a shared GH for those working on it, then submit once master opens to new features again | 17:48 |
| vinod1 | Which brings to the next agenda item | 17:48 |
| vinod1 | Server Pools - do we have a branch to work on next? | 17:48 |
| timsim | No feature branch, eh? | 17:48 |
| Kiall | None of the other projects do that, so, I'd prefer not to start a new trend ;) | 17:49 |
| mugsie | i would prefer to ;) | 17:49 |
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| rjrjr | we can always remove the branch when we are back in the master with the work. are there things that would prevent us from branching and working? | 17:50 |
| mugsie | yeap | 17:50 |
| vinod1 | we already have branches for earlier stable releases - so logically makes sense to have branches for future unstable ones too | 17:50 |
| Kiall | rjrjr: yep, all the Gerrit ACLs prevent us | 17:50 |
| timsim | WIP Reviews are probably fine at first. Once they're ready to land we can put them in a fork or something. | 17:50 |
| Kiall | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Branch_Model | 17:50 |
| mugsie | we can ask in infra to have those permissions opened, | 17:50 |
| rjrjr | didn't know. make sense then. | 17:50 |
| mugsie | I will ask if there is any problem doing it | 17:50 |
| rjrjr | seems like branching should be allowed by the core team at least. | 17:51 |
| mugsie | nova is discussing doing it as well on the mailing list | 17:51 |
| timsim | It kind of seems like something people would want to do, I'm surprised it hasn't been done. | 17:51 |
| mugsie | yeah - I think there is some philisophical objection to it in openstack | 17:52 |
| Kiall | mugsie: BTW come Sept 25th, master is open to new features again.. | 17:52 |
| Kiall | 3 weeks ago | 17:52 |
| rjrjr | i'm with vinod1. specs aside, i'm ready to start coding pieces of this as well. | 17:52 |
| Kiall | away* | 17:52 |
| vinod1 | rjrjr: Some of us have some spare cycles too, do you need any help with the pool manager etc stuff? | 17:52 |
| mugsie | yeah - but some of this will have to happen in tandem, and a feature branch will make a colaboration much easier | 17:52 |
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| Kiall | Also - The *intent* of feature freeze is to shift developers focus from new features to stabilizing a release.. Creating a feature branch and moving everyone there somewhat defeats that purpose | 17:53 |
| rjrjr | vinod1, i'd love to talk to you about IXFR. it is absolutely need by us. | 17:53 |
| timsim | rjrjr: We'd be happy to take one of the coding pieces off your plate, it you'd like. | 17:53 |
| mugsie | yes - but if people have cycles now, to do feature work, we should be using them. | 17:53 |
| rjrjr | sure, IXFR. | 17:54 |
| Kiall | And - We're talking about 3 weeks here, which isn't 6 months etc | 17:54 |
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| timsim | rjrjr: We're more thinking the bits that can be done right now, Pool Manager, Storage, etc? | 17:54 |
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| timsim | Realistically, it'll probably be at least 2 weeks before anything is ready to merge, we can probably wait another week to merge stuff? | 17:55 |
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| vinod1 | Kiall: To your point of 3 weeks, as timsim suggests, we can start off with WIP and then if it is ready to merge before that - come back to this discussion again | 17:55 |
| Kiall | vinod1: Yep - Agreed. | 17:56 |
| rjrjr | timsim, let's chat afterwards. | 17:56 |
| rjrjr | vinod1, +1. | 17:56 |
| timsim | rjrjr: ok. | 17:56 |
| Kiall | Okay - Moving on so :) | 17:57 |
| Kiall | #topic Open Discussion | 17:57 |
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| rjrjr | paris talks. any updates? | 17:57 |
| mugsie | 3 mins ;) | 17:57 |
| Kiall | ;) | 17:57 |
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| mugsie | only one got in | 17:57 |
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| Kiall | rjrjr: did you not get the email etc for yours? | 17:58 |
| rjrjr | which one? | 17:58 |
| mugsie | https://openstacksummitnovember2014paris.sched.org/event/d375ee7f87608f12d1dfb0868f0eb826 | 17:58 |
| mugsie | and sched is down already | 17:58 |
| mugsie | the general overview of designate | 17:58 |
| Kiall | lol - loaded for me | 17:58 |
| Kiall | refresh, and it fails. | 17:59 |
| rjrjr | wow. guess i'm not going to paris. 8^( | 17:59 |
| Kiall | rjrjr: no chance without a talk? | 17:59 |
| rjrjr | none. | 17:59 |
| Kiall | Urgh.. Annoying! | 17:59 |
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| Kiall | Okay.. Well, times up. SlickNik will start getting abusive if we don't clear out! ;) | 17:59 |
| Kiall | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 3 18:00:03 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-09-03-17.02.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-09-03-17.02.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-09-03-17.02.log.html | 18:00 |
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| SlickNik | Kiall: Thanks! | 18:00 |
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| esp | o/ | 18:00 |
| SlickNik | #startmeeting trove | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 3 18:00:50 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SlickNik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:00 |
| iccha | o/ | 18:01 |
| SlickNik | Giving folks a few moments to trickle in. | 18:01 |
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| amcrn | o/ | 18:01 |
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| grapex | o/ | 18:01 |
| kevinconway | o/ | 18:01 |
| glucas | o/ | 18:01 |
| sgotliv | o/ | 18:01 |
| tomblank | o/ | 18:01 |
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| mattgriffin | o/ | 18:02 |
| SlickNik | Agenda at: | 18:02 |
| SlickNik | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:02 |
| SlickNik | #topic Juno-3 | 18:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Juno-3 (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:03 | |
| SlickNik | #link https://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/juno-3 | 18:03 |
| georgelorch | o/ | 18:03 |
| schang | o/ | 18:04 |
| SlickNik | Most of the BPs that we were targeting to merge in Juno-3 have been code-reviewed, and approved and are currently making their way through the integrated gate. | 18:04 |
| SlickNik | Thanks for the hard work that a lot of you guys put in to making this milestone happen! | 18:05 |
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| SlickNik | Still need to watch the patches through the gate and make sure they merge fine — will be keeping an eye out on that today. | 18:06 |
| SlickNik | The plan is to cut Juno-3 tomorrow once everything that is in flight merges. | 18:07 |
| SlickNik | There were a couple of BPs that didn't make it in time for Juno-3 | 18:07 |
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| SlickNik | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/associate-flavors-datastores | 18:08 |
| SlickNik | and | 18:08 |
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| SlickNik | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/oslo-messaging | 18:09 |
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| SlickNik | So we're in Feature Freeze after the juno-3 cut - Any BPs to merge after this needs to have a FFE (Feature Freeze Exception) | 18:10 |
| iccha | SlickNik: whats the rule on bugs? | 18:11 |
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| SlickNik | iccha: Bugs can continue to merge up to and until the RC is cut. | 18:11 |
| SlickNik | One sec | 18:11 |
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| SlickNik | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Juno_Release_Schedule | 18:11 |
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| cp16net | o/ | 18:12 |
| SlickNik | So the first RC is planned for the week of Sept 25. | 18:12 |
| sgotliv | SlickNik, are we the only project who didn't adopt oslo messaging yet? | 18:13 |
| SlickNik | So basically we have from now until that time to fix bugs, add tests, and polish the overall Juno release. | 18:13 |
| SlickNik | sgotliv: I think so — although I'm planning on asking for an FFE for that (since we're pretty close) and getting that merged within the next week. | 18:14 |
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| sgotliv | look, it too shame :-) | 18:14 |
| sgotliv | we need start reviewing this | 18:14 |
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| SlickNik | sgotliv: I think it's not ready for reviews yet. There are issues with it passing the tests. | 18:15 |
| SlickNik | From when I looked at it last. | 18:15 |
| SlickNik | ^ esp: any updates? | 18:15 |
| sgotliv | damn | 18:15 |
| esp | yo | 18:15 |
| esp | so I’m knee deep in internal work here | 18:16 |
| esp | have not worked on oslo.messaging in a while | 18:16 |
| esp | if someone wants to take it up I can tell ya where I left things | 18:16 |
| SlickNik | esp: got it. | 18:16 |
| esp | I believe vipul expressed some interest a while back | 18:16 |
| esp | but I know he’s busy too | 18:17 |
| SlickNik | sgotliv: Do you have cycles to take this on, since you expressed an interest? | 18:17 |
| sgotliv | I already regret about it :-) | 18:17 |
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| grapex | SlickNik: Is this something we have to get out for Juno? | 18:17 |
| sgotliv | joke, I'll try to look into it | 18:18 |
| SlickNik | grapex: yes, I think this is something we need to complete for juno. | 18:18 |
| esp | sgotliv: let me know if I can help (or confuse you) | 18:18 |
| sgotliv | of course, I'll start with fpercoco he is my teammate here at red hat | 18:19 |
| sgotliv | he is a drafter | 18:19 |
| esp | sgotliv: cool | 18:20 |
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| esp | I can abandon the patch I got up there too | 18:20 |
| esp | it’s way crusty | 18:20 |
| SlickNik | sgotliv / esp: I'd check with vipul before doing that, since I know he was looking at it as well. | 18:20 |
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| sgotliv | sure | 18:21 |
| esp | SlickNik: k, will do | 18:21 |
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| SlickNik | Okay, so coming back to bugs. | 18:21 |
| SlickNik | We've already identified quite a few issues that we should get fixed in Juno. | 18:22 |
| SlickNik | We now have an RC1 milestone, so I'm going to move all of these issues that we've identified to this RC1 milestone. | 18:22 |
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| amrith | ./ | 18:23 |
| SlickNik | Will complete that by tomorrow, so folks have a better idea of how RC1 is shaping up. | 18:23 |
| SlickNik | (and who's looking at which RC1 issues) | 18:24 |
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| SlickNik | Any other questions regarding Juno-3, and the path to RC1? | 18:24 |
| SlickNik | . | 18:25 |
| SlickNik | #topic Open Discussion | 18:25 |
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| SlickNik | Any items for Open Discussion? | 18:26 |
| amrith | just reading scrollback | 18:26 |
| amrith | sgotliv, if you want a hand with oslo.messaging, happy to help. | 18:26 |
| sgotliv | amrith, thanks, I definitely will need a help | 18:27 |
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| georgelorch | SlickNik, I am slowly getting ramped up here and learning many various bits. If you need a body to do things like testing, bug validation, etc...feel free to ping me, would be good exercises to help me get rolling. | 18:27 |
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| SlickNik | georgelorch: Will definitely do. | 18:28 |
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| sgotliv | georgelorch, I have few ideas, ping me tomorrow | 18:28 |
| SlickNik | georgelorch: Definitely pull down some of the new bits added in juno-3, and test and file bugs if anything seems amiss. | 18:29 |
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| SlickNik | Also in general now would be a good time to start looking at the docs tasks that have been in the queue as well. :) | 18:29 |
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| georgelorch | sure SlickNik, currently working on getting hardware/devstack running in a reasonable environment, code pulled, etc...will jump in... | 18:30 |
| georgelorch | sgotliv, will do | 18:30 |
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| SlickNik | Anything else for open discussion? | 18:30 |
| SlickNik | . | 18:30 |
| SlickNik | #endmeeting | 18:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 3 18:31:03 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-09-03-18.00.html | 18:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-09-03-18.00.txt | 18:31 |
| grapex | Thanks SlickNik! | 18:31 |
| amrith | thx SlickNik | 18:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-09-03-18.00.log.html | 18:31 |
| SlickNik | Thanks all! | 18:31 |
| SlickNik | Now to get a headstart on those RC1 items! :) | 18:31 |
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| iccha | thanks SlickNik | 18:32 |
| sgotliv | thanks SlickNik | 18:32 |
| esp | thx! | 18:32 |
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