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| markwash__ | o/ | 14:01 |
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| jokke_ | \o | 14:01 |
| arnaud | o/ | 14:01 |
| mclaren | o/ | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | \o | 14:01 |
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| markwash__ | #startmeeting glance | 14:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 11 14:02:30 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markwash__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:02 |
| markwash__ | hi everybody | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | o/ | 14:02 |
| zhiyan | o/ | 14:02 |
| jokke_ | ehlo | 14:03 |
| TravT | o/ | 14:03 |
| nikhil_k | o/ | 14:03 |
| lakshmiS | o/ | 14:03 |
| radek | hi there! | 14:03 |
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| ativelkov | o/ | 14:04 |
| markwash__ | I added a little bit the agenda | 14:04 |
| markwash__ | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:04 |
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| markwash__ | a few things that came up recently regarding our release(s) | 14:04 |
| markwash__ | so I'll jump right in | 14:04 |
| markwash__ | #topic client release | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "client release (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:05 | |
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| markwash__ | flaper87: thanks for releasing the client! | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | np | 14:05 |
| markwash__ | lakshmiS: what's the status of the bug fix? | 14:05 |
| lakshmiS | markwash__: Just saw some few comments from zhiyah. will address it this morning | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | lakshmiS++ | 14:06 |
| markwash__ | okay. let's do that pronto, or fall back to the other fix if we have to | 14:06 |
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| * flaper87 is ready to release the client whenever that fix lands | 14:06 | |
| markwash__ | I think each day with a problem with the client release is a day of pain for some nontrivial chunk of the world | 14:07 |
| jokke_ | that might take time ... looks like gate is stuck | 14:07 |
| mclaren | should we take a look at putting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115236/ in too? Or is that feature creep :-) | 14:07 |
| zhiyan | +1! | 14:07 |
| markwash__ | jokke_: maybe we can ask for a bump when it passes check from the infra guys? | 14:07 |
| mclaren | (that's the one where you get no help message if you didn't enter creds) | 14:07 |
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| flaper87 | if that's a bug fix, I'd be happy to land it and then do the switch to i18n | 14:08 |
| markwash__ | flaper87: +1 | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | it's really trivial and it does fix a bug | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | +1 | 14:08 |
| zhiyan | i'm open on it as well. | 14:08 |
| markwash__ | it looks simple enough to land | 14:08 |
| * flaper87 just +@'d | 14:09 | |
| TravT | i have a question on the client release. it seems the zuul tempest tests didn't pick up backwards compatibility issues until the client was actually released. is there a better process or something here to follow in the future? | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | +2'd, that is | 14:09 |
| markwash__ | TravT: I was wondering as well | 14:09 |
| mclaren | yeah, running against the last stable release would be nice | 14:09 |
| markwash__ | mclaren: +1 | 14:09 |
| TravT | markwash__: I asked david-lyle about this and he said he's seen this happen to a number of the clients. | 14:10 |
| jokke_ | while waiting that to happen, do it with devstack ;) | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: we can add a gate for that | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | it should be quite easy to do | 14:10 |
| TravT | flaper87: +1 if we can automate, would be good | 14:10 |
| markwash__ | adding it to the gate would be perfect | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | I'm doing some work on that for Zaqar so, I'm happy to take glanceclient's too | 14:11 |
| mclaren | flaper87 really? great! I'd assumed it would be hard, but that's just 'cos I wouldn't know how to do it ;-) | 14:11 |
| markwash__ | my early morning memory doesn't give me any more info about this particular problem | 14:11 |
| markwash__ | flaper87: <3 | 14:11 |
| * flaper87 feels loved | 14:12 | |
| jokke_ | *grouphug* | 14:12 |
| markwash__ | I'll also mention it in project meetings next week | 14:12 |
| markwash__ | lol | 14:12 |
| markwash__ | any other client release issues / thoughts before we move on? | 14:12 |
| * TravT pats flaper87 on the back | 14:12 | |
| markwash__ | #topic juno rc1 status | 14:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "juno rc1 status (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:13 | |
| markwash__ | so we "released" juno-3 last week | 14:13 |
| markwash__ | and made some FFEs | 14:13 |
| markwash__ | and landed a lot of them | 14:13 |
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| markwash__ | #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/juno-rc1 | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | thanks to everyone who helped me with reviews | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | just sayin' | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | :) | 14:14 |
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| markwash__ | one quick question I had was about the remaining work on async processing | 14:14 |
| markwash__ | is there a new bp / spec for what's needed next? | 14:14 |
| markwash__ | there's still some patches out linked against this bp I think | 14:14 |
| markwash__ | nikhil_k / arnaud ^^ | 14:15 |
| nikhil_k | no bp yet mark | 14:15 |
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| arnaud | I am working on the task flow part markwash__ (I can create another spec) | 14:15 |
| nikhil_k | there is 1 taskflow patch in glance | 14:15 |
| jokke_ | markwash__: also the spec folder has been waiting to land for a week nopw :D | 14:15 |
| nikhil_k | and another glance client | 14:15 |
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| flaper87 | I don't want to hijack the topic but are we going to ahve a session about async workers at the summit? I think it'd be worth it. | 14:16 |
| arnaud | also, I am 60% of the introspection code where we already had a BP for that in LP | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | I'm curious about a status udpate and future work | 14:16 |
| arnaud | s/am/have | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | Mostly because I want to help | 14:16 |
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| flaper87 | but I can do my homework and lookup that info myself | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:16 |
| markwash__ | sounds fine to me | 14:17 |
| markwash__ | :-) | 14:17 |
| markwash__ | arnaud rosmaita there are a few easy spec changes up for review if you get a chance | 14:17 |
| markwash__ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115807/ in particular | 14:17 |
| markwash__ | or I can ninja it now | 14:17 |
| markwash__ | :-) | 14:17 |
| arnaud | sounds good | 14:18 |
| markwash__ | dhellmann also proposed some changes that add an RSS feed for when specs are updated/added | 14:18 |
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| markwash__ | which seems kinda nifty | 14:18 |
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| markwash__ | and each change is tiny and trivially easy to review | 14:18 |
| markwash__ | okay | 14:18 |
| markwash__ | back to juno rc1 | 14:18 |
| markwash__ | so it looks like things there are mostly in order | 14:18 |
| markwash__ | the remaining "FFE" is jokke_ 's | 14:19 |
| jokke_ | markwash__: put that in the agenda as you had some concerns | 14:19 |
| markwash__ | and as we go through the bug day, we'll want to end up targeting release blockers at the rc1 milestone so we know to prioritize | 14:19 |
| zhiyan | markwash__: do you think we can make conf-auto-gen change in juno as well? change just needds reveiw | 14:19 |
| zhiyan | actually i see it's a bug instead of a feature ( there 's a bug report for it) | 14:20 |
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| markwash__ | zhiyan: I think it probably could go in rc1 | 14:21 |
| markwash__ | zhiyan: can you link the review again | 14:21 |
| markwash__ | anybody else have concerns about that review for rc1 ? | 14:21 |
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| zhiyan | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104476/ | 14:21 |
| jokke_ | I'm for it | 14:22 |
| zhiyan | i will rebase it asap (due to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120036/ ) | 14:22 |
| markwash__ | zhiyan: I like the approach that was taken, having the separate opts module that aggregates lists of options | 14:22 |
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| markwash__ | rather than having to group them where they are declared | 14:23 |
| markwash__ | okay great | 14:23 |
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| markwash__ | any other thoughts about rc1 ? | 14:23 |
| zhiyan | markwash__: good to know. and probably next step i can ask some education from infa team, to do that work in gate for each +Aed patch. | 14:23 |
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| markwash__ | zhiyan: yes, that sounds good | 14:24 |
| markwash__ | is it time to talk about bug day? | 14:24 |
| markwash__ | I think maybe it is! | 14:24 |
| markwash__ | #topic bug day! | 14:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bug day! (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:24 | |
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| jokke_ | \\o \o/ o// o/7 | 14:24 |
| markwash__ | etherpad for bug day rallying / tracking | 14:25 |
| markwash__ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glancebugday | 14:25 |
| markwash__ | if everybody who is working together on bugs can add their nick(ish) to the top of that etherpad it will help | 14:25 |
| markwash__ | and there are lots of things we need to do, but I think our priorities are cleanup and triaging bugs that sound really bad | 14:26 |
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| markwash__ | in case they are release blockers | 14:26 |
| markwash__ | heh, well that's about all I have about bug day except thanks | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | what we do about those historical ones? | 14:28 |
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| markwash__ | thanks everybody who is breaking away from their regular stuff to improve the health of our project :-) | 14:28 |
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| markwash__ | jokke_: historical ? | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | markwash__: there is like "wishlist" stuff from 2012 etc. | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | just sort by bug nr. | 14:29 |
| markwash__ | jokke_: lol | 14:29 |
| markwash__ | still wishing! | 14:29 |
| markwash__ | you can mark anything that you think should be closed as 'propose-close' tag | 14:29 |
| markwash__ | and I will periodically sweep through that list with a flamethrower | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | could we add "dream-on" tag that can be put on wishlisted ones that has not been done in two releases? :P | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | markwash__: cool | 14:30 |
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| TravT | jokke_: unicorn tag? | 14:30 |
| jokke_ | TravT: yeah ... it's that unicorn release | 14:31 |
| markwash__ | haha | 14:31 |
| jokke_ | markwash__: don't laugh ... U comes pretty fast on this release speed ;D | 14:31 |
| markwash__ | any other thoughts about bug day before we move on? :-) | 14:31 |
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| markwash__ | we can keep coordinating in #openstack-glance and on the etherpad, feel free to throw whatever you want up there | 14:32 |
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| markwash__ | #topic glance logging rework | 14:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "glance logging rework (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:33 | |
| markwash__ | jokke_: this is your ffe-ature right? | 14:33 |
| jokke_ | yeah | 14:33 |
| jokke_ | I'll start by shooting with a cannon | 14:33 |
| markwash__ | fire away | 14:33 |
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| zhiyan | (love 70-200) | 14:34 |
| jokke_ | So our logging guidelines states that all that operators might care should be INFO+ & INFO should not contain error related messages | 14:34 |
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| jokke_ | thus, the bump up is quite heavy | 14:34 |
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| markwash__ | I'm totally with that approach | 14:36 |
| zhiyan | jokke_: may i know what's 'INFO+' ? | 14:36 |
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| markwash__ | my question on the patch is, are 400 responses "errors" from the operators perspective? | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | zhiyan: LOG.{info, warn, error, exception, critical} | 14:36 |
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| zhiyan | what's the different with IINFO | 14:37 |
| zhiyan | INFO* | 14:37 |
| markwash__ | I feel like they're usually just user errors and an operator can receive them at info level | 14:37 |
| markwash__ | it feels about on par with "this request succeeded": "this request failed because the user typed in the wrong string for container format" | 14:37 |
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| jokke_ | markwash__: well that's the thing, is user error no error ... the example from the logging was that INFO should be preserved for stuff like "This part of service started" "SIGHUP reladed configs" "New store added" | 14:38 |
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| markwash__ | jokke_: where do we put "POST /foo response 200" ? | 14:39 |
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| jokke_ | markwash__: DEBUG ;) | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | markwash__: IMHO supportability wise, operator should be able to configure logging to WARN+ and still be able to support the users | 14:40 |
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| jokke_ | markwash__: and that would just clean the startups, etc away | 14:40 |
| markwash__ | jokke_: ah neat I like that perspective | 14:40 |
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| markwash__ | is there any tie breaker who can come in and save the day? | 14:41 |
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| markwash__ | alas | 14:42 |
| jokke_ | guys! now is good time to chip in. | 14:42 |
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| TravT | Well I agree with jokke_ on the perspective that errors should not be info... | 14:43 |
| TravT | but the user error seems a little low at debug | 14:44 |
| markwash__ | I guess the question is "are 'user errors' errors" | 14:44 |
| markwash__ | jokke_: would you mind if I fired off a quick email to the ML with that question? | 14:44 |
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| markwash__ | I'm *almost* happy to roll over on this issue but just not quite there ;-) | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | I tried to look them bit in the line, that errors user might come to operator complaining that glance does not work, goes to warn and stuff where user should get sufficient message on their face telling, don't be stupid goes to debug | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | although, looking the questions in the non-dev mailinglist, it might not be enough ;) | 14:45 |
| markwash__ | yeah, I agree that the reporting of user errors shouldn't just go to debug | 14:46 |
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| markwash__ | I guess we are a little verbose about user errors sometimes though | 14:46 |
| jokke_ | markwash__: that I could agree ... maybe we should revisit overall our message content (again) ;) | 14:47 |
| markwash__ | so some of the more extraneous messages about user errors in a given request lifecycle could be debug if the main ones are >debug | 14:47 |
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| markwash__ | jokke_: okay I'll send an email and if we meet more stony silence you win :-) | 14:47 |
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| jokke_ | markwash__: fine by me :) | 14:48 |
| markwash__ | :-) | 14:48 |
| jokke_ | markwash__: mailwars ;) | 14:48 |
| markwash__ | next up! | 14:48 |
| mclaren | fwiw I think most operators run with debug (to get stack traces etc) http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2014-March/004156.html | 14:48 |
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| markwash__ | #topic functional tests and tempest | 14:48 |
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| jokke_ | markwash__: this was mine also | 14:49 |
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| jokke_ | looking the mailing list there seems to be projects moving their functional tests away from tempest | 14:49 |
| markwash__ | yeah | 14:49 |
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| jokke_ | should we rething us moving in there | 14:49 |
| markwash__ | I noticed that trend as well | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | rethink | 14:49 |
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| zhiyan | i noticed some discussion as well | 14:50 |
| markwash__ | we could be bravely contrary, but probably ought not :-) | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | trying to swim up the waterfall? | 14:50 |
| TravT | one line summary? why are they moving away from tempest? | 14:51 |
| markwash__ | I think the idea is that tempest is not scaling well in terms of maintaining tests. . . | 14:51 |
| jokke_ | TravT: one contributor seems to be at least getting reviews and stuff accepted in ... tempest folks apparently just do not know projects well enough to dare to jump in | 14:52 |
| zhiyan | a proposed feature needs related functional cases cover it | 14:52 |
| jokke_ | zhiyan: and that | 14:52 |
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| TravT | thx | 14:52 |
| markwash__ | yeah I think its just a more sensible way of doing things if the original coder / group is the same one doing the functional tests too | 14:53 |
| zhiyan | if feature code and testing code are separated, it may take trouble | 14:53 |
| markwash__ | but the challenge for projects is to maintain different ways running the whole system for certain tests | 14:53 |
| markwash__ | maybe tempest can become a helper for the setup of bigger functional tests, and we import them as a library? | 14:53 |
| zhiyan | so i personally think a in-tree functional testing way is better the separated one | 14:53 |
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| markwash__ | zhiyan: +1 | 14:54 |
| TravT | definitely better if the original coder / group provides functional tests. | 14:54 |
| markwash__ | for us, the question is just how to share system-level setup code with other projects, and how to separate / include functional testing concerns with the tests that run on developers laptops | 14:55 |
| zhiyan | btw, i think this case just is similar with rally one | 14:55 |
| zhiyan | in-tree plugins for load testing | 14:55 |
| zhiyan | seems it's a cross-project question/issue, iiuc | 14:56 |
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| markwash__ | zhiyan: yes, definitely cross project | 14:56 |
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| markwash__ | so I'm curious if anyone has followed the discussion closely enough to know what steps we should take | 14:57 |
| markwash__ | and when | 14:57 |
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| markwash__ | I haven't followed it as closely | 14:57 |
| zhiyan | markwash__: so ,not sure if sean likes to give advice | 14:57 |
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| markwash__ | oh, also we're about out of time | 14:57 |
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| markwash__ | let's bump the remainder of this topic to next week | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | I haven't been following close enough either | 14:58 |
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| markwash__ | #topic open discussion | 14:58 |
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| markwash__ | re bug day: let's go get 'em ! | 14:58 |
| zhiyan | markwash__: do you think we should finish this list in Juno cycle ? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/backports-glance.store | 14:58 |
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| jokke_ | markwash__: when we should carve the rc1 out? | 14:59 |
| TravT | i have question on bug tags. will take to openstack-glance | 14:59 |
| markwash__ | zhiyan: yikes looks like we should | 14:59 |
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| zhiyan | good to know markwash__ , i'm just a little worried on fucntion regression | 15:00 |
| jokke_ | +1 | 15:00 |
| jokke_ | we're on time | 15:00 |
| zhiyan | thanks | 15:00 |
| markwash__ | thanks everybody | 15:00 |
| jokke_ | thanks! | 15:00 |
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| markwash__ | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 11 15:00:41 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-09-11-14.02.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-09-11-14.02.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-09-11-14.02.log.html | 15:00 |
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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 11 15:01:22 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:01 |
| bswartz | hello folks | 15:01 |
| cknight | Hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | who's here | 15:01 |
| vponomaryov | hi | 15:01 |
| csaba | hi | 15:01 |
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| xyang1 | hi | 15:02 |
| deepakcs | hi | 15:02 |
| rushil | hi | 15:02 |
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| AlkaD | hello | 15:02 |
| bswartz | so I've been doing a lot of reading about neutron in the last week | 15:02 |
| scottda | hi | 15:02 |
| bswartz | trying to figure out how to clearly explain networking to people | 15:02 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, nice | 15:02 |
| bswartz | deepakcs: don't say that until you see the mess that came out of it | 15:03 |
| scottda | hehe | 15:03 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, ah ok i thought u will help clear it ;-) | 15:03 |
| bswartz | I'm going to try to clear it up | 15:03 |
| bswartz | but there are something I've been ignoring and they might be real problems | 15:03 |
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| deepakcs | ok | 15:03 |
| bswartz | we will talk about them when we reach that part of the agenda | 15:03 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:04 |
| TriV|3 | hi | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | so the first topic, very important is | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | #topic bugs | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | right now the team focus is on getting a stable juno release done | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | as I mentioned last week, no new features will be accepted | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | and bugfixes will only be accepted if they have a bug in LP targetted at juno-rc1 | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | if you have a bug you think needs to be targeted to juno-rc1, please talk to a core team member | 15:06 |
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| deepakcs | bswartz, so when we open a bug. how do we set the target.. currently i bug valeriy | 15:06 |
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| deepakcs | ok :) | 15:06 |
| bswartz | I see 8 bugs still open | 15:06 |
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| bswartz | yeah you need a core team member to target it | 15:06 |
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| bswartz | if anybody could target bugs it would be chaos | 15:07 |
| deepakcs | make sense | 15:07 |
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| bswartz | actually 9 open bugs | 15:07 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: unfortunately launchpad doesn't prevent that | 15:07 |
| bswartz | what?!? | 15:07 |
| bswartz | xyang1: think it does | 15:07 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: I mean I think anyone can set the target there | 15:07 |
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| xyang1 | bswartz: is it? I'll double check | 15:07 |
| bswartz | xyang1: I can't target cinder bugs | 15:08 |
| xyang1 | bswartz; ok, I'll check that again. | 15:08 |
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| bswartz | okay and we're down to 14 days until the release candidate is expected | 15:09 |
| bswartz | top priority is closing the remaining 9 bugs | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | and the sooner we find out about any new bugs that have to be fixed in juno the better | 15:09 |
| bswartz | any questions on bugs, or any requests to target a bug right now? | 15:10 |
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| bswartz | okay cool | 15:10 |
| AlkaD | one quick question | 15:10 |
| bswartz | #topic development status | 15:10 |
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| bswartz | ack | 15:11 |
| bswartz | #undo | 15:11 |
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| bswartz | AlkaD: go ahead | 15:11 |
| AlkaD | are all the bugs being worked on at this time | 15:11 |
| AlkaD | ? | 15:11 |
| AlkaD | open 9 bugs? | 15:11 |
| bswartz | AlkaD: yes they all have owners, and most of them are marked in progress | 15:11 |
| AlkaD | thanks | 15:11 |
| bswartz | lgreg owns 3 of them | 15:11 |
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| AlkaD | I am new, trying get involved | 15:11 |
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| AlkaD | new on Manila | 15:12 |
| bswartz | I'll ping him to make sure he's making progress on the 3 he owns | 15:12 |
| bswartz | welcome AlkaD! | 15:12 |
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| bswartz | okay.... | 15:12 |
| bswartz | #topic development status | 15:12 |
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| vponomaryov | Dev status for last week: | 15:12 |
| vponomaryov | 1) Manilaclient now can handle names for security services operations. | 15:12 |
| vponomaryov | 2) Share networks and security services now can be updated more properly. | 15:12 |
| vponomaryov | 3) Other attempts were directed to testing and bugfixing, available for review: | 15:13 |
| vponomaryov | 3.1) #link https://review.openstack.org/120712 | 15:13 |
| vponomaryov | 3.2) #link https://review.openstack.org/119621 | 15:13 |
| vponomaryov | 3.3) #link https://review.openstack.org/120711 | 15:13 |
| vponomaryov | that's the main | 15:13 |
| bswartz | is vlad here? | 15:13 |
| bswartz | I see some -1 on his changes so I hope he's watching and addressing those | 15:14 |
| TriV|3 | yes | 15:14 |
| TriV|3 | I'm here) | 15:14 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: yes, it will be fixed soon | 15:14 |
| bswartz | TriV|3: oh hi -- I didn't recognize your irc handle | 15:15 |
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| bswartz | okay | 15:15 |
| bswartz | so on to the fun stuff | 15:15 |
| bswartz | #topic terminology | 15:15 |
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| bswartz | we've been talking about the concept of single-tenant/multi-tenant drivers (please DON'T use those terms) | 15:16 |
| bswartz | we've been talking about the concept of flat-network drivers and non-flat-network drivers | 15:16 |
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| bswartz | and there's confusion all around | 15:16 |
| bswartz | I think part of it is my fault, because I've been making some oversimplifying assumptions | 15:17 |
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| bswartz | so I spent some time thinking carefully about all the use cases and learning as much as I could about neutron and nova-net and various real storage controllers | 15:17 |
| bswartz | I threw together this wiki page which is rambling and disorganized | 15:18 |
| bswartz | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Networking | 15:18 |
| bswartz | the first thing I want to point it is that "flat-network driver" was really not a good term either | 15:19 |
| bswartz | it's almost as bad as single-tenant | 15:19 |
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| bswartz | the real interesting difference in driver styles is whether a driver is capable of creating virtual share-servers or not | 15:20 |
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| bswartz | and the line is actually a bit blurry | 15:20 |
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| bswartz | so what that wiki page attempts to do is list the various choices and issues that openstack admins have to wrestle with | 15:21 |
| csaba | virtual share server == service vm? | 15:21 |
| bswartz | csaba -- yeah pretty much | 15:21 |
| bswartz | although certain vendors may have a different name | 15:22 |
| bswartz | my goal is to boil down all the complexity to what choices we need to concern ourselves with inside manila | 15:22 |
| bswartz | I tried to write a flowchart and that got too complicated | 15:22 |
| Shamail | Hi Ben, is the ability to create virtual share-servers or not the delimiter or whether the real storage controller can connect to multiple networks (e.g. VLAN tagging or network overlay support)? The ability to create share-servers is not a network support attribute. | 15:22 |
| bswartz | so I came at it from the other side | 15:23 |
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| bswartz | Shamail: no it's not that simple, that's why I said the line is blurry | 15:23 |
| bswartz | certainly the ability to create SVMs or share-servers allow you to do things more securely, but it's not a single deciding factor | 15:24 |
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| bswartz | the work the redhat guys are doing, and what several customers are doing is forcing me to think about things differently | 15:24 |
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| bswartz | if you jump down to the bottom of that wiki I tried to write my conclusion | 15:25 |
| bswartz | we need to support things other than neutron, basically | 15:25 |
| bswartz | too many customers are still using nova-network | 15:25 |
| bswartz | and for small installation on a lab for development or POC purposes, we need something that will work with no network infrastructure whatsoever | 15:26 |
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| xyang1 | bswartz: Isn't there effort trying to move from nova-network to neutron? | 15:26 |
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| bswartz | xyang1: absolutely | 15:26 |
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| vponomaryov | xyang1: we should not force them to do it | 15:26 |
| vponomaryov | xyang1: by manila restriction | 15:27 |
| bswartz | honestly I'm not sure what's holding customers back -- I've heard different things | 15:27 |
| bswartz | but what vponomaryov says is exactly right: we shouldn't be pushing them one way or the other | 15:27 |
| bswartz | we should simply try to work with what they want to use | 15:27 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, what do you mean by "support things other than neutron" - an example may help | 15:27 |
| vponomaryov | deepakcs: nova-network | 15:27 |
| bswartz | deepakcs: specifically, we need to write a nova-network plugin | 15:28 |
| xyang1 | I'm just not sure how long nova-network will exist, but doesn't look like it is going away soon | 15:28 |
| bswartz | and we need to write a "simple" plugin that has very light requirements | 15:28 |
| bswartz | and we may want to write a more interesting plugin that has some powerful capabilities that don't depend on neutron or nova-net | 15:28 |
| csaba | plugib | 15:29 |
| bswartz | that last one I'd rather leave for customers or users to write, but it's not impossibe for us to take on | 15:29 |
| csaba | plugin to what exactly? | 15:29 |
| bswartz | so manila has a network plugin architecture already | 15:29 |
| bswartz | with only 1 plugin (neutron) | 15:29 |
| rushil | csaba: plugin to remove dependance on neutron | 15:30 |
| vponomaryov | rushil: plugin to extend support coverage | 15:30 |
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| AlkaD | bswartz: I liked your plan at the end of the wiki | 15:30 |
| bswartz | the idea is the abstract out all of the requirements manila has on neutron into something that can be replaced by end users | 15:30 |
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| csaba | rushil: I was not aware of network pluggability | 15:31 |
| bswartz | that has been done | 15:31 |
| rushil | vponomaryov: That too | 15:31 |
| bswartz | now what's needed is to provide some more alternatives to make developers and customer's lives better | 15:31 |
| AlkaD | +1 | 15:31 |
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| bswartz | and briefly, I'd like to call attention to some other deployment scenarios that I thought about | 15:32 |
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| bswartz | so the gold standard is the scenarios where the manila backend creates at least one share server for every tenant, and they're all on private networks where the network layer can enforce security | 15:32 |
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| bswartz | and there is the case of a relatively flat network where a single large share server can be shared by all the tenants | 15:33 |
| bswartz | but there are shades of grey between these | 15:33 |
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| bswartz | such as perhaps a netapp controller on a lab network, where multiple SVMs can be created, but not on different vlans | 15:34 |
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| bswartz | we've been moving toward this case with the "default share network" stuff we've been talking about, but only in the last week did I realize that it's a different case | 15:35 |
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| bswartz | so we're getting a bit off track here because we're talking about design and features for Kilo | 15:35 |
| bswartz | getting back to terminilogy | 15:35 |
| bswartz | I've decided flat-network is not a useful term given all the different configs that are possible | 15:36 |
| bswartz | I still don't have a good way to classify the different types of drivers | 15:36 |
| bswartz | and my current feeling is that maybe we shouldn't try to classify them | 15:37 |
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| bswartz | maybe it's better to leave the shades of grey alone and to write about specific deployment scenarios and how to achieve them | 15:37 |
| bswartz | the neutron docs show excellent examples of that | 15:37 |
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| bswartz | neutron is fabulously complex but the docs spell out some very easy to understand scenarios | 15:38 |
| bswartz | so +1 for the neutron doc writers -- we should try to emulate them | 15:38 |
| bswartz | with our own docs | 15:38 |
| bswartz | does anyone think I'm off track here by dodging this terminology question? | 15:39 |
| AlkaD | yeah terminology can be tricky | 15:39 |
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| xyang1 | no, I think it is good to talk about terminology | 15:39 |
| AlkaD | so you are lookig for terms to describe shades of grey | 15:39 |
| scottda | The strategy of spelling out specific scenarios sounds like the way to go. | 15:40 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: it is useful, but I do not agree that we should live shadows on drivers difference | 15:40 |
| bswartz | xyang1: do you think we still need to come up with names for the different types of drivers? | 15:40 |
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| bswartz | we will need to describe what certain drivers can and can't do | 15:40 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, +1 IIUC you are saying we should write good docs that go about what kind of networking to use for what kind of problem/deployment ? | 15:40 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: what you have planned sounds good to me. don't have to come up with names for different types of drivers | 15:40 |
| rushil | I think we need to define it on a per driver basis | 15:40 |
| bswartz | but it will end up looking more like a compatibility matrix I think | 15:40 |
| bswartz | for different types of drivers there will be different things to consider | 15:41 |
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| bswartz | for example, the generic driver has NO dependence on why type of physical switch infrastructure you have | 15:41 |
| bswartz | but the netapp driver relies heavily on having a physical switch with VLAN trunk ports | 15:42 |
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| bswartz | deepakcs: I'm saying I don't want to divide everything into 2 categories or even 3 | 15:43 |
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| bswartz | the exactly list of capability differences is still TBD | 15:44 |
| bswartz | okay enough on that topic | 15:44 |
| bswartz | please provide feedback on the wiki page if you like | 15:44 |
| bswartz | it's a work in progress | 15:44 |
| bswartz | we have other topics | 15:44 |
| bswartz | #topic juno release plan | 15:44 |
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| bswartz | so I already mentioned the target RC1 date of Sept 25 | 15:45 |
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| bswartz | I want to talk to distro vendors about what are the requirements to produce debs/rpms for manila after the official juno release | 15:45 |
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| bswartz | anyone from redhat/suse/canonical here? | 15:46 |
| bswartz | who works on distribution? | 15:46 |
| deepakcs | i am from redhat, but don't work on the distro side | 15:46 |
| bswartz | I have the list of maintainers I can follow up with | 15:46 |
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| xyang1 | eharney may know about packaging | 15:46 |
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| deepakcs | I can try to get help in case u dont get thru your regular channels, let me know | 15:47 |
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| bswartz | zaitcev is the redhat guy I need to speak with and I don't see him here | 15:47 |
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| bswartz | anyways after RC1 I'll be working with distro vendors to produce packages | 15:48 |
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| bswartz | I'm pretty sure most of the distro vendors will be putting manila-related packages into "development" or "tech preview" type repos | 15:48 |
| bswartz | but having packages will greatly simply the lives of customers | 15:49 |
| nileshb | tentatively when do we expect to get manila packages for distros like redhat? | 15:49 |
| bswartz | nileshb: not before Oct 16 | 15:49 |
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| nileshb | would we be creating manila rpms? | 15:50 |
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| bswartz | Oct is the official release date so I don't expect anything official to happen until after that | 15:50 |
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| bswartz | but we'll be working with distros to make manila rpms absolutely | 15:50 |
| nileshb | thanks | 15:51 |
| bswartz | so there's the question of icehouse compatibility | 15:51 |
| bswartz | customers currently have icehouse, and many won't upgrade to juno until months after the release | 15:51 |
| bswartz | we never made an official icehouse release and never created a stable/icehouse branch | 15:51 |
| bswartz | however there is some value in having something like that and building rpms/debs based on that too | 15:52 |
| AlkaD | I agree | 15:52 |
| bswartz | the icehouse-compatible version of manila would contain all of the changes from Juno most likely because there are too many bugs that have been fixed to not include them | 15:52 |
| nileshb | are we going to create such a branch (stable/juno) for Juno (probably I am out of sync on this) | 15:53 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: there are only one dependency restriction - manila uses external packages of versions that appeared only in juno | 15:53 |
| bswartz | yes there will absolutely be a stable/juno branch when kilo opens up | 15:53 |
| rushil | vponomaryov: +1 | 15:53 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: yeah I think we may need to work with distro vendors on how to address those | 15:54 |
| bswartz | possibly the manila rpms will just have a bunch of extra dependencies | 15:54 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: some virtualenv for Manila should fix it | 15:54 |
| bswartz | as long as they don't conflict I don't see a huge problem | 15:54 |
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| bswartz | so that's something we will figure out in the next few week as well | 15:55 |
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| bswartz | any questions on that? | 15:55 |
| bswartz | we've got 5 minutes left for anything I missed | 15:55 |
| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:55 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: what are we doing with documentation? | 15:55 |
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| vponomaryov | xyang1: good catch =) | 15:56 |
| bswartz | xyang1: read annegentle's manila ML post if you haven't | 15:56 |
| deepakcs | when do we move from stackforge to openstack git repos ? | 15:56 |
| vponomaryov | deepakcs: infra guys postponed it to weekend after this one | 15:56 |
| bswartz | we can't write docs for openstack-manuals YET, but we can put the content into manila/docs | 15:56 |
| deepakcs | vponomaryov, ok | 15:57 |
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| bswartz | rushil is working on making the doc updates | 15:57 |
| atiwari | woodster, yt? | 15:57 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: I was thinking what if we add image requirements for generic driver to our docs? | 15:57 |
| bswartz | and when we have the content written we'll work with the docs folks to find a home for it somewhere on docs.openstack.org | 15:57 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: docs in manila repo | 15:58 |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov: yes, we should add everything we can think of | 15:58 |
| bswartz | I'll make a checklist of things for next week | 15:58 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: is it kilo only? | 15:58 |
| bswartz | no it's for Juno | 15:58 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: ok | 15:58 |
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| bswartz | we want users of the juno release to have good docs that explain how to set it up and how to use it | 15:59 |
| AlkaD | +1 | 15:59 |
| bswartz | but top priority is still bugs | 15:59 |
| xyang1 | we should have a section for each driver in the doc as well | 15:59 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: not everything at once =) | 15:59 |
| bswartz | bugs first, docs second, and kilo features third | 15:59 |
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| bswartz | xyang1: go ahead and contribute a doc on configuration for the EMC driver | 16:00 |
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| bswartz | we're at the end of our time | 16:00 |
| bswartz | thanks everyone | 16:00 |
| AlkaD | thank you | 16:00 |
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| xyang1 | bswartz: sure, if rushil can tell me the location. will ping him later | 16:00 |
| vponomaryov | thanks | 16:00 |
| rushil | bye | 16:00 |
| xyang1 | thanks | 16:00 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 11 16:01:03 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-09-11-15.01.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-09-11-15.01.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-09-11-15.01.log.html | 16:01 |
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| vkozhukalov | #startmeeting Fuel | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 11 16:01:19 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is vkozhukalov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:01 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:01 |
| vkozhukalov | #chair vkozhukalov | 16:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: vkozhukalov | 16:01 |
| vkozhukalov | hey guys | 16:01 |
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| vkramskikh | hi | 16:01 |
| vkozhukalov | agenda as usual | 16:01 |
| vkozhukalov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:01 |
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| agordeev | hi | 16:01 |
| vkozhukalov | so let's start | 16:02 |
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| mihgen | hi all | 16:02 |
| vkozhukalov | looks like most of us are here | 16:02 |
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| vkozhukalov | #topic Patching of OpenStack: current status, remaining issues. (vkuklin) | 16:02 |
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| aglarendil | hi everyone | 16:02 |
| mattymo | hi all | 16:02 |
| vkozhukalov | aglarendil: hi | 16:02 |
| aglarendil | we merged almost all of the fixes for patching and rollback support | 16:02 |
| aglarendil | these fixes make patching and rollback work | 16:03 |
| aglarendil | but impose some restrictions on the upgrade process | 16:03 |
| meow-nofer__ | Hi | 16:03 |
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| aglarendil | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1367753 | 16:03 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1367753 in fuel "[docs] Documentation for patching caveats and problems should be added " [High,Confirmed] | 16:03 |
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| aglarendil | we are removing all the openstack packages prior to deployment of newer openstack code | 16:04 |
| aglarendil | and we are also patching nodes one by one in order to allow a user to interfere if anything goes wrong | 16:04 |
| aglarendil | right now we have only a couple of issues related to patching | 16:04 |
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| aglarendil | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1364465 | 16:05 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1364465 in fuel/6.0.x "[library] Neutron server is down after rollback: "Unable to load quantum from configuration file"" [High,In progress] | 16:05 |
| aglarendil | this bug fix is related to centos packaging issue and the fix is under review | 16:05 |
| aglarendil | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1367785 | 16:05 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1367785 in fuel "[upgrade] Openstack cluster update failed: /usr/bin/murano-db-manage --config-file=/etc/murano/murano.conf upgrade returned 1 instead of one of [0]" [High,In progress] | 16:05 |
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| aglarendil | this seems to be unclear to me whether it is going to be fixed today | 16:06 |
| aglarendil | but according to the comments it is not a rocket science | 16:06 |
| aglarendil | and does not block other features except murano | 16:06 |
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| aglarendil | so these are all the issues related to patching, I guess | 16:07 |
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| aglarendil | correct me if I am mistaking | 16:07 |
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| aglarendil | it looks like that's it | 16:07 |
| vkozhukalov | ok, looks not very optimistic | 16:07 |
| aglarendil | any questions | 16:07 |
| vkozhukalov | thanx aglarendil | 16:08 |
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| vkozhukalov | if no questions moving on | 16:08 |
| mihgen | I think we can't stil call it as production feature though | 16:08 |
| mihgen | still too many bugs, late moment | 16:08 |
| angdraug | +1 | 16:08 |
| mihgen | we want to release next week, can't wait any longer | 16:08 |
| mihgen | and also QA doesn't give a green flag | 16:09 |
| mihgen | and it's unclear how many issues we might encounter next week with the feature :( | 16:09 |
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| mihgen | there was a conversation in openstack-dev ML, I've marked issues by "experimental" tag already | 16:09 |
| mihgen | which means that patching is experimental along with zabbix for 5.1 | 16:10 |
| mihgen | ok I think we should move on.. | 16:11 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic HCF status (let's go over remaining issues) and 5.1 release proposed dates (mihgen) | 16:11 |
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| asyriy | Hello, I am working on the issue with HP driver | 16:11 |
| angdraug | link? | 16:12 |
| mihgen | folks we still have around 10 bugs which block us from HCF | 16:12 |
| mihgen | I'd like to go over some of them - we should get only 5, no more | 16:12 |
| asyriy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1359331 | 16:12 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1359331 in fuel "Add support for HP BL120/320 RAID controller line" [High,Confirmed] | 16:12 |
| mihgen | asyriy: I thought we have decided that's gonna be documented only for 5.1 ? | 16:13 |
| asyriy | yes, | 16:13 |
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| mihgen | ok. so let's go one by one other bugs which affect us | 16:14 |
| mihgen | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1322230 | 16:14 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1322230 in fuel "[library] ERR: ceph-deploy osd activate node-11:/dev/sdc4 returned 1 instead of one of [0]" [High,Confirmed] | 16:14 |
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| mihgen | this was reproduced again by QA engineer | 16:14 |
| mihgen | I hope angdraug can take a look on this today | 16:15 |
| angdraug | rmoe is looking into this | 16:15 |
| mihgen | angdraug: ok, cool | 16:15 |
| rmoe | as we speak actually | 16:15 |
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| mihgen | angdraug: one more on you - | 16:15 |
| mihgen | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1331554 | 16:15 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1331554 in fuel "[library] Raise max file descriptors and process file limits for radosgw" [High,Triaged] | 16:15 |
| angdraug | yes, I think I'm going to need help from msemenov_ here | 16:16 |
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| angdraug | we need to repackage apache and radosgw with init scripts and user assignments that resolve the nofile and nproc limit issues | 16:16 |
| angdraug | may be too disruptive for this late in the process | 16:16 |
| angdraug | thoughts on postponing to 6.0? | 16:17 |
| mihgen | how does it affect the user? | 16:17 |
| aglarendil | angdraug: no other workarounds possible? | 16:17 |
| angdraug | if there's 24 or more cores on the system, radosgw may refuse to start | 16:17 |
| aglarendil | let's then document it and ask the user to modify init script for radosgw | 16:18 |
| angdraug | agreed | 16:18 |
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| mihgen | yeah I think we can add a note to release note about this limitation.. | 16:18 |
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| alex_didenko | we can make a work-around for centos - just put a file into /etc/security/limits.d/ with nproc for "apache" user | 16:18 |
| mihgen | angdraug: let's mark as won't fix for 5.1 then, not just move to 6.0 | 16:18 |
| mihgen | or otherwise we gonna forget to document | 16:18 |
| angdraug | I've added release-notes tag to the bug | 16:19 |
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| mihgen | ok. moving on | 16:20 |
| mihgen | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1360230 | 16:20 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1360230 in fuel "glance issue on ubuntu/gre/ceph/simple" [High,Confirmed] | 16:20 |
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| mihgen | this is tricky issue which can't be easily reproduced as I understand | 16:20 |
| mihgen | reported by akasatkin | 16:20 |
| akasatkin | VBox only. ddmitriev and xenolog are looking into it. | 16:20 |
| mihgen | not sure about the latest status. aglarendil, xenolog ? | 16:20 |
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| akasatkin | it's 100% repoducible on particular configurations | 16:21 |
| aglarendil | akasatkin: mihgen we could not reproduce it with our system tests | 16:21 |
| aglarendil | it is really tricky | 16:21 |
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| mihgen | ddmitriev: xenolog Any estimates? | 16:21 |
| akasatkin | it's VBox only | 16:21 |
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| mihgen | aglarendil: tricky == vbox really only? | 16:21 |
| mihgen | or it's possible to repro with other virt | 16:22 |
| akasatkin | not sure ) | 16:22 |
| mihgen | or hw | 16:22 |
| angdraug | if it's really vbox only it's Medium, not High | 16:22 |
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| aglarendil | mihgen: I have never heard of reproducing of this bug not on VBox | 16:22 |
| ddmitriev | it's not reproduced on libvirt, but only on vbox | 16:22 |
| mihgen | ddmitriev: you tried exactly same configuration? | 16:23 |
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| mihgen | in libvirt? I'm wondering if we can move it to 6.0.. | 16:24 |
| xenolog | mihgen: I can't answer now. This issue reproduced only on virtualbox and not each try | 16:24 |
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| ddmitriev | mihgen: yes, the same configuration several times on different servers | 16:24 |
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| mihgen | ok. so if you all confirm that it's only vbox, then let's close as won't fix in 5.1 and track in 6.0 | 16:24 |
| mihgen | let's move on | 16:25 |
| mihgen | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1367001 | 16:25 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1367001 in fuel "fuel allows you to remove all controllers and add new controllers in the same task" [High,In progress] | 16:25 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120741/ | 16:25 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: folks are looking for your +1 there | 16:25 |
| mihgen | there is comment left "Vladimir, so it is ok, if user will be able to delete all controllers, except 1, and deploy another set of controllers in the same task?" | 16:25 |
| angdraug | xarses: ^ | 16:25 |
| mihgen | yeah it was reported by xarses, so xarses pls take a look too | 16:26 |
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| aglarendil | I +1'ed it but xarses should also take a look | 16:26 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: thx | 16:26 |
| mihgen | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1367234 | 16:26 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1367234 in fuel/5.1.x "[library] Logs from MongoDB server should be written to a separate file instead of syslog" [High,In progress] | 16:26 |
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| mihgen | this one is fixed by tzn | 16:27 |
| mihgen | but we are waiting for Fuel CI for stable branches | 16:27 |
| mihgen | then we should merge it. It's already in master | 16:27 |
| mihgen | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1367340 | 16:27 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1367340 in fuel/5.0.x "Ensure reliable cleanup of resources in 5.0.X" [High,In progress] | 16:27 |
| xarses | Ok I will look | 16:27 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: do you know anything on it? | 16:28 |
| mihgen | it's on dilyin but he is not in the room | 16:28 |
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| aglarendil | let me summon him | 16:28 |
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| aglarendil | dilyin: please comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1367340 | 16:29 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1367340 in fuel/5.0.x "Ensure reliable cleanup of resources in 5.0.X" [High,In progress] | 16:29 |
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| dilyin | Ok. | 16:29 |
| dilyin | We have a logic incide out corosync service provider that should cleanup service error before the service is started if there are some errors. | 16:30 |
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| mihgen | dilyin: so what about it? | 16:32 |
| dilyin | Previously we were using it to workaround errors during the deploymebtof secoind and third conteroller | 16:32 |
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| dilyin | Now we don't need it anymore because we have changed the mode our ha cluster works. | 16:32 |
| dilyin | But the code that should clean up any ppacemaker errors and start the service is still very usefull. | 16:33 |
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| dilyin | During the testing of our patching ther was a situation when pacemaker services could not start because they were in error state. | 16:34 |
| mihgen | dilyin: > Now we don't need it anymore because we have changed the mode our ha cluster works ---doesn't it mean that we can safely postpone it to 6.0? | 16:34 |
| dilyin | Theroreticly suchj situation should ever happen but it it does happen this errors should have been cleaned up ad services should start anyway | 16:34 |
| dilyin | but for some reason this code did not work anbd deployment have failed | 16:35 |
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| dilyin | so i have inserted duplicate cleanup to ensure that any errors will be cleaned up in any situation | 16:35 |
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| aglarendil | mihgen: briefly | 16:36 |
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| aglarendil | mihgen: I think we can leave it as is until we get a reproducer | 16:36 |
| aglarendil | in 5.0.x | 16:36 |
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| mihgen | "as is" == confirmed? | 16:36 |
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| dilyin | This patches should not be harmful i hope. And it would be better to accept them because they can fix some random errors that could appear for some reason | 16:36 |
| angdraug | that's a lot of "maybe" | 16:37 |
| aglarendil | angdraug: yep | 16:37 |
| mihgen | so what's the decision should we make? how safe is the patch? | 16:37 |
| mihgen | should we apply it to master only, to both stable/5.1 & master ? | 16:37 |
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| dilyin | let's test these patches and if there are no problems accept them | 16:38 |
| mihgen | dilyin: Fuel CI tests are not enough? | 16:38 |
| aglarendil | let's test them with custom tests and bvt | 16:38 |
| aglarendil | they may affect other scenarios | 16:38 |
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| mihgen | Fuel CI does full HA deploymetn | 16:38 |
| dilyin | to master... no. we should refactor out corosync module a lot in future. it's really a mess | 16:38 |
| aglarendil | let's just test it tomorrow and decide | 16:39 |
| mihgen | ok I see. | 16:39 |
| mihgen | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1367776 | 16:39 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1367776 in fuel "[library] ovs bond should be deployed with lacp_time fast" [High,In progress] | 16:39 |
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| mihgen | xenolog prepared a fix | 16:39 |
| aglarendil | we need to test it | 16:39 |
| mihgen | I've requested reported to take a look and test if possible on hw | 16:39 |
| mihgen | no response from him yet | 16:40 |
| aglarendil | let's move on them | 16:40 |
| aglarendil | we do not have a lot of time | 16:40 |
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| mihgen | so what our decision would be now? | 16:40 |
| aglarendil | mihgen: wait for tomorrow at least | 16:41 |
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| aglarendil | if there are no results - postpone it | 16:41 |
| xenolog | I tested fix on simple env with bond — interfaces created sucessfully. | 16:41 |
| xenolog | system tests should test fix for situations without bonds. | 16:41 |
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| mihgen | ok let's wait for the EOD PST | 16:41 |
| mihgen | if no response is given, I move it to 6.0 | 16:42 |
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| mihgen | it's actually doesn't affect much, and rather medium than high.. | 16:42 |
| vkozhukalov | 18 minutes and 4 other topics | 16:42 |
| aglarendil | mihgen: let's wait for tomorrow. we have 18 minutes left | 16:42 |
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| mihgen | Ok we also have two bugs on UI, but those are trivial - to enable experimental mode for patching and disable 5.0/5.0.1/5.0.2 in new deployments for non-experimental after upgrade | 16:43 |
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| mihgen | vkozhukalov: sorry, let's move on | 16:43 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic Upstream Neturon and ML2 Support (xarses) | 16:43 |
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| xarses | ml2-neutron - updated from newer puppet neutron. but had to back out (2) commits that make a it require puppetlabs/mysql 2.2 or greater. | 16:43 |
| xarses | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103280/ | 16:43 |
| xarses | Its rebased onto current master and am working through some bugs related to the rebase. | 16:43 |
| xarses | There are still a number of commits that where made to our neutron manifests that need to be evaluated if they are included in the rebase | 16:43 |
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| angdraug | any chance of finishing this today? | 16:44 |
| xarses | poor at this rate | 16:44 |
| angdraug | in that case you'll need to document your progress so far for xenolog to take over while you're on vacation | 16:45 |
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| xarses | of course | 16:45 |
| angdraug | moving on? | 16:45 |
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| vkozhukalov | if no questions | 16:46 |
| mihgen | vkozhukalov: let's move on, yeah | 16:46 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic Upstream manifests merging (alex_didenko) | 16:46 |
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| alex_didenko | so in 5.1 we've updated "stdlib" and applied essential compatibility patches in "mysql" and "keystone" which allow us to use old and new openstack puppet modules simultaneously | 16:46 |
| alex_didenko | removed unused puppet modules like: nagios, mmm, squid, git, keepalived, puppetdb, selinux | 16:47 |
| alex_didenko | OS modules synced with upstream (4.0.0 for Icehouse): cinder, glance, heat, nova | 16:47 |
| alex_didenko | a part of dependency modules synced with upstream like: firewall, apt, ssh, concat, lvm, memcached | 16:47 |
| alex_didenko | in progress and on review OS modules: keystone (need to update "swift" firts), neutron, ceilometer | 16:47 |
| alex_didenko | we tried to do minimal changes in the synced from upstream modules and move all our customizations into our own modules/classes (like "openstack::cinder") where it's possible | 16:47 |
| alex_didenko | done :) | 16:47 |
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| angdraug | are we reporting/proposing our fixes back to upstream on ongoing basis? | 16:47 |
| xarses | alex_didenko: are we pushing them back upstream? | 16:47 |
| mihgen | alex_didenko: excellent, thanks! | 16:48 |
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| alex_didenko | not really, only 1 fix was pushed upstream atm | 16:48 |
| xarses | moving the changes into our modules, are going to cause the same issues as we had with out of sync modules. We do work, and it gets lost, or conflicted | 16:48 |
| alex_didenko | there are not many fixes, mostly applying our logic to existing manifests | 16:48 |
| angdraug | as long as it's fuel specific and not working around upstream bugs, fine | 16:49 |
| mihgen | yeah folks let's discuss it in ML | 16:49 |
| angdraug | if we have to work around bugs or missing features in upstream, we should at least report them | 16:49 |
| alex_didenko | ideally in the future we should have all our login in our modules and patch upstream ones only with improvements and fixes | 16:49 |
| angdraug | mihgen: +1 | 16:49 |
| vkozhukalov | ok moving on | 16:49 |
| alex_didenko | then we'll be able to push a lot of those changes into upstream | 16:49 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic Juno support (mattymo) | 16:50 |
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| alex_didenko | all our login = all out logic | 16:50 |
| vkozhukalov | mattymo: around? | 16:50 |
| mattymo | yes | 16:50 |
| xenolog | alex_didenko, +1 | 16:50 |
| mattymo | I recently did some deployments with the MOS team on juno-2 milestone. We found a lot of fun dependency issues, and are taking them out relatively quickly | 16:51 |
| mattymo | we have almost everything deploying, except glance, murano, and heat (more dependency issues) | 16:51 |
| mattymo | There were just 3 bugs in puppet that had to be addressed, which is nice | 16:51 |
| mihgen | mattymo: neutron? | 16:51 |
| xenolog | I already propose making wrappers oround upstream manifests. | 16:51 |
| mattymo | yes neutron works | 16:51 |
| mihgen | mattymo: excellent | 16:51 |
| mattymo | But today MOS team is rebasing on juno-3 packages, so we'll have to backpedal a bit and retest for dependency bugs | 16:51 |
| mattymo | It's moving along well, and all Fuel Master components work fine on Juno libs | 16:52 |
| mattymo | (that's it for me) | 16:52 |
| mihgen | mattymo: are we staring to land changes into fuel-library master? | 16:52 |
| mattymo | mihgen, not yet | 16:52 |
| angdraug | is master/6.0 ci fully operational now? | 16:52 |
| mattymo | mihgen, there's a number of patches ready to merge whenever core reviewers would feel generous enough to hit +2 | 16:52 |
| mihgen | mattymo: thanks, good progress. So for changes - they should be backward compatible with icehouse | 16:52 |
| mihgen | then Fuel CI will do +1 | 16:52 |
| mihgen | CI and mirrors to rvyalov and bookwar_ | 16:53 |
| mattymo | mihgen, not sahara. Sahara renames the service from sahara-api to sahara-all | 16:53 |
| angdraug | general note: lets not forget about kilo, and have a package repo & ci jobs for that as soon as stable/juno is branched | 16:53 |
| rvyalov | angdraug: yes | 16:54 |
| mihgen | angdraug: kilo is too early if we can't get fast juno yet | 16:54 |
| bookwar_ | mihgen: we are yet to define openstack mirrors versioning scheme | 16:54 |
| angdraug | not saying right now, but we should plan for it | 16:54 |
| vkozhukalov | 5 minutes | 16:54 |
| mihgen | bookwar_: omg I thought it's resolved | 16:54 |
| vkozhukalov | 1 topic | 16:54 |
| mihgen | let's discuss issues in ML then please bookwar_ | 16:54 |
| mihgen | if broader opinion needed | 16:54 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic Blueprints under question | 16:55 |
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| vkozhukalov | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/blank-role-node | 16:55 |
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| vkozhukalov | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/cpu-overcommit-setting | 16:56 |
| vkozhukalov | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/coreos-fuel-master (mattymo) | 16:56 |
| mihgen | well these are not for 4 minutes | 16:56 |
| vkozhukalov | mihgen: agree | 16:56 |
| mihgen | we might want to bring those to discuss during Fuel Meetup.. | 16:56 |
| xarses | I like the idea of coreos, but bp is mostly boiler plate and needs to be updated | 16:56 |
| mattymo | I just wanted my blueprint to get some public visibility and welcome any comments and suggestions | 16:56 |
| mihgen | for blank-role-node, +1 for the idea.. | 16:57 |
| mihgen | not sure how easy it is though | 16:57 |
| angdraug | yes, coreos is tempting but fitting it into 6.0 is going to be a problem | 16:57 |
| xarses | angdraug: +1 | 16:57 |
| angdraug | blank-role-node -- should be simple enough | 16:57 |
| angdraug | ditto overcommit | 16:57 |
| angdraug | my 2c :) | 16:57 |
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| vkozhukalov | one more time about september Fuel meetup | 16:57 |
| vkozhukalov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-september-meetup-2014 | 16:58 |
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| vkozhukalov | everyone is welcome to join | 16:58 |
| vkozhukalov | it is supposed to be held likely at Mirantis office | 16:58 |
| vkozhukalov | 615 National Ave, Mountain View | 16:58 |
| mihgen | thanks | 16:58 |
| vkozhukalov | ok, thanx everyone | 16:59 |
| vkozhukalov | great meeting | 16:59 |
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| mihgen | thanks | 16:59 |
| vkozhukalov | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 11 16:59:15 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2014/fuel.2014-09-11-16.01.html | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2014/fuel.2014-09-11-16.01.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2014/fuel.2014-09-11-16.01.log.html | 16:59 |
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| tkelsey | O7 | 17:00 |
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| chair6 | ohai | 17:01 |
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| hyakuhei | hi all | 17:01 |
| tmcpeak | \o/ | 17:02 |
| sicarie | hello | 17:02 |
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| hyakuhei | Can someone else chair plz? | 17:02 |
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| hyakuhei | (Broke my arm, typing is very slow) | 17:02 |
| tmcpeak | I'd do it but I'm in a meeting | 17:02 |
| tkelsey | Hey all | 17:02 |
| nkinder | HOLA | 17:02 |
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| tmcpeak | nkinder: can you chair? hyakuhei is broken | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | +1 | 17:02 |
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| nkinder | sure | 17:03 |
| bknudson | must have been an awesome vacation | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | It was :D | 17:03 |
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| nkinder_ | ok, now that wifi kicked me off... | 17:04 |
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| nkinder_ | Let's start with OSSNs, then we can see if others have some agenda items | 17:04 |
| nkinder_ | #topic ossn | 17:04 |
| tmcpeak | cool, start meeting | 17:04 |
| tmcpeak | ? | 17:04 |
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| nkinder_ | #startmeeting OpenStack Security Group | 17:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 11 17:05:09 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nkinder_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:05 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_security_group' | 17:05 |
| nkinder_ | With that, let's jump into it | 17:05 |
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| nkinder_ | #topic ossn | 17:05 |
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| nkinder_ | So, there are still a good number of OSSNs out there. I've been making my way through reviewing them. | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | Can ppl make sure they update LP when they pick up an OSSN pls? | 17:06 |
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| nkinder_ | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:06 |
| nkinder_ | I think 0020 is close | 17:06 |
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| nkinder_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113422 | 17:06 |
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| nkinder_ | I pushed up a new patch for Priti to help move it along | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | cool | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | what does it need? more review? | 17:07 |
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| nkinder_ | Yes, more review. It has none since I updated it this morning | 17:07 |
| nkinder_ | It's a pretty simple one, as we backed off of trying to provide an intricate workaround to identity and terminate NAT connections | 17:08 |
| nkinder_ | I don't think it's possible to reliably kill connections made via floating IP based on my testing | 17:08 |
| nkinder_ | So, that should make this easy to review. :) | 17:08 |
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| tmcpeak | cool | 17:09 |
| nkinder_ | hyakuhei: a review by you would be great. I'm ok to +2 it given that Priti really wrote it (and I just tweaked it) | 17:09 |
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| nkinder_ | tmcpeak: I'll wait for a +1 from you before that too though | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | nkinder_: ok, sounds good | 17:09 |
| viraptor | so on the topic of managing LP, I got used to nova actually marking stuff as in progress after a review is opened, but when I wrote 0023 it neither moved to in-progress, nor closed even though closes-bug is in the message - does anyone know if it's hard to automate? | 17:09 |
| nkinder_ | and I'll see about getting a Neutron core to review it again | 17:09 |
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| nkinder_ | #action nkinder to ask Neutron devs to review OSSN-0020 | 17:09 |
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| nkinder_ | #action tmcpeak to review OSSN-0020 | 17:10 |
| nkinder_ | #action hyakuhei to review OSSN-0020 | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | :) | 17:10 |
| nkinder_ | Ok, so OSSN-0024 is also a fairly easy one from a technical standpoint | 17:10 |
| nkinder_ | tmcpeak and I have both reviewed it, and it's really just wording issues at this point | 17:11 |
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| tmcpeak | yeah, not much changes left on that | 17:12 |
| nkinder_ | Shohel will update that one, and we can hopefully take care of it pretty quickly | 17:12 |
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| tmcpeak | sicarie: has 25 | 17:12 |
| nkinder_ | I have to make the rounds through the other pending notes today | 17:12 |
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| tmcpeak | tkelsey has 27 | 17:12 |
| tkelsey | Yup | 17:12 |
| nkinder_ | Are there any technical details on the pending notes that we need to discuss? | 17:13 |
| tkelsey | Review welcome | 17:13 |
| nkinder_ | tkelsey: will do | 17:13 |
| tkelsey | Ty | 17:13 |
| sicarie | nkinder - there is a pending fix on 25 | 17:13 |
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| sicarie | Should I hold off until it's merged, or make a note that there is a 'pending' fix? | 17:13 |
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| nkinder_ | tkelsey: which LP is your note associated with? | 17:14 |
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| nkinder_ | sicarie: same question for you ^^^ | 17:14 |
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| nkinder_ | ah, tkelsey has https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn/+bug/1274034 | 17:15 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1274034 in neutron "Neutron firewall anti-spoofing does not prevent ARP poisoning" [High,In progress] | 17:15 |
| sicarie | Bah, the OSSN draft isn't showing up, but here's the bug | 17:15 |
| sicarie | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn/+bug/1354512 | 17:15 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1354512 in ossn "Anonymous user can download public image through Swift" [Undecided,New] | 17:15 |
| tkelsey | Yeaah sorry was finding link | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | would it be useful for us to have a table where we list LP bug, review link, status? | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | and who is working it | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | for each OSSN number | 17:16 |
| sicarie | +1 - I'm always forgetting the lgerrit link | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | same, I've had that trouble many times | 17:17 |
| nkinder_ | sicarie: , set the ossn LP to "in progress" and assign it to yourself please | 17:17 |
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| tmcpeak | I usually have to go through my browser history | 17:17 |
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| sicarie | nkinder - apologies, thought I had, will do shortly | 17:17 |
| nkinder_ | If you add "Closes-bug" in your patch commit message, it will add a link into the LP | 17:17 |
| nkinder_ | though a table would be nice | 17:17 |
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| nkinder_ | I use this list to see what is being worked on: | 17:18 |
| nkinder_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn/ | 17:18 |
| hyakuhei | +1 | 17:18 |
| sicarie | Ah, my non-familiarity with git - I didn't want to do closes-bug in case that submitted as a patch | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | maybe an etherpad with OSSN#, who has it, what's the status, LP bug, review link | 17:19 |
| nkinder_ | sicarie: it knows what git repo is tied to which project in LP | 17:19 |
| nkinder_ | tmcpeak: yeah, though it needs to be maintained... | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | sometimes I have a few mins to kill and would do reviews but laziness associated with finding them is a barrier to entry | 17:19 |
| nkinder_ | tmcpeak: so a gerrit view of all open security-doc reviews is ideal for that | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | nkinder: true | 17:19 |
| nkinder_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/security-doc,n,z | 17:20 |
| nkinder_ | Useful titles in your commit message would really help here | 17:20 |
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| tmcpeak | good point | 17:21 |
| nkinder_ | I think we should have something consistent like "OSSN-xxxx - <issue title>" | 17:21 |
| nkinder_ | as you can see, there are some generic ones right now | 17:21 |
| nkinder_ | ok, so everyone pitch in on reviews and let's get some published before next week. I think we knocked 2 out last week. | 17:22 |
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| nkinder_ | let's try to at least do the same in the next week (should be easy with 0020 and 0024) | 17:23 |
| tkelsey | +1 | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | cool | 17:23 |
| nkinder_ | One other item related to notes is that it's going to be a good time to make a pass through the existing notes to see if things are changing in Juno | 17:23 |
| nkinder_ | For some existing notes, we might need to add Juno to the list of affected releases | 17:23 |
| nkinder_ | ...for others, we might be able to add something saying "this issue is fixed in Juno" | 17:24 |
| nkinder_ | I think we should do that once we start getting Juno RCs | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | nkinder_: +1 | 17:24 |
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| nkinder_ | I'll re-raise this in a future meeting as we get closer, because I'd like for us all to split this task up. | 17:25 |
| tmcpeak | cool | 17:25 |
| nkinder_ | ok, I think that's it on notes | 17:25 |
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| nkinder_ | tmcpeak: anything on bandit/gate you want to discuss? | 17:25 |
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| tmcpeak | sure | 17:25 |
| nkinder_ | #topic bandit/gate tests | 17:25 |
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| tmcpeak | chair6 has a review in to get Bandit in Gerrit | 17:26 |
| nkinder_ | stackforge? | 17:26 |
| chair6 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119865/ | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, sorry, stackforge | 17:26 |
| chair6 | yup, stackforge | 17:26 |
| nkinder_ | chair6: cool! | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | chair6: didn't know you're here | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | can you fill in a bit on the process? | 17:26 |
| chair6 | lurking.. :) | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | you? never... | 17:26 |
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| chair6 | yeah, sure | 17:27 |
| chair6 | #link http://ci.openstack.org/stackforge.html | 17:27 |
| chair6 | ^ that's the process we're following | 17:27 |
| nkinder_ | new repos are created on fridays, so hopefully this will be approved and created tomorrow | 17:27 |
| chair6 | make a few edits to various config files, submit a review .. my muscle memory slipped and i'd type 'sourceforge' instead of 'stackforge', fixed that so we should be good | 17:27 |
| chair6 | excellent | 17:28 |
| chair6 | tomorrow would be good | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | chair6: does that needany support? | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak | we need more tests, they're easy to write | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak | if you think of any and want to write one and want help, let me know | 17:28 |
| nkinder_ | hyakuhei: you mean to get approved? | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | yeah | 17:28 |
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| nkinder_ | hyakuhei: I just looked over the changes, and they all look correct for repo creation. I'll +1 it. | 17:29 |
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| tkelsey_ | erg, sorry everyone | 17:29 |
| nkinder_ | hyakuhei: in my experience, the acks all come in on friday | 17:29 |
| nkinder_ | ok, any other bandit/gate test discussion at this point? | 17:30 |
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| chair6 | tmcpeak made a few more useful framework imrpovements over the week, i wrote a basic sqli check.. time to keep on building the set of tests out | 17:30 |
| tmcpeak | also testing would be useful | 17:30 |
| tmcpeak | I've run it against all OpenStack projects and it doesn't die, but more testing is always good | 17:30 |
| nkinder_ | how is the list of issues that we discovered going? Have any of those gotten merged? | 17:30 |
| nkinder_ | My swift changes to avoid insecure mktemp were merged last week | 17:31 |
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| tmcpeak | I found and fixed the Glance one a while back | 17:31 |
| nkinder_ | but I didn't go update the google doc we created at the midcycle | 17:31 |
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| nkinder_ | anyone have a link to that google doc? | 17:31 |
| tmcpeak | I'll get it | 17:31 |
| tmcpeak | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HkKYaUI0fL1wKGq7KrFQkUuxSnRXhr8O6ZO3E5_eyuA/edit?usp=sharing | 17:31 |
| tmcpeak | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HkKYaUI0fL1wKGq7KrFQkUuxSnRXhr8O6ZO3E5_eyuA/edit?usp=sharing | 17:31 |
| nkinder_ | ok, so I'll update my item on that. If anyone else has filed bugs that are referenced there, please check them to see if anything has been done to address them and update the doc appropriately. | 17:33 |
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| tmcpeak | btw, if anybody still wants to take one, Trove has a ton | 17:33 |
| tmcpeak | as in, run the latest Bandit against Trove, and happy hunting | 17:34 |
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| nkinder_ | ok, any other topics from anyone? | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | nope | 17:34 |
| nkinder_ | no bdpayne today, so I don't know if anyone else can cover the doc update | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | seems to be slowing down | 17:35 |
| nkinder_ | I also haven't heard anything on the thread modeling side of things | 17:35 |
| nkinder_ | Does anyone have any news there, or has that effort stagnated? | 17:35 |
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| tmcpeak | I guess shohel would be the one to say | 17:35 |
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| hyakuhei | Shohel and priti were doing some hands on stuff | 17:36 |
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| nkinder_ | ok, any other topics from anyone? | 17:38 |
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| nkinder_ | if nothing else, then I'm going to suggest we end early | 17:39 |
| tmcpeak | sounds good | 17:39 |
| tkelsey | nothing from me | 17:39 |
| nkinder_ | ...then we can all use the extra time for OSSN reviews. :) | 17:39 |
| bknudson | I hada topic | 17:39 |
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| nkinder_ | bknudson: sure | 17:39 |
| bknudson | So here's my concern... | 17:40 |
| bknudson | I can propose a bunch of security hardening | 17:40 |
| bknudson | but at this point they're going to be considered Wishlist / nice to have rather than actual bugs | 17:40 |
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| tmcpeak | bknudson: +1 | 17:40 |
| bknudson | so, maybe it would be useful if we had something that documented when some crypto use was inadequate | 17:40 |
| bknudson | and was actually a bug and not a nice-to-have | 17:40 |
| tmcpeak | great idea | 17:41 |
| tkelsey | bknudson: +1 | 17:41 |
| tmcpeak | I have learned what is considered to be a bug and not, but that knowledge dies with me. Could save somebody else some effort | 17:41 |
| bknudson | probably not something we'll have for juno, but for K should be something we can aim for | 17:42 |
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| tkelsey | blueprint? | 17:42 |
| nkinder_ | I think we'll still have to pile onto the bugs to stress that they are important | 17:42 |
| bknudson | maybe this would be a good topic for the summit | 17:42 |
| nkinder_ | bknudson: +1 | 17:42 |
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| nkinder_ | bknudson: I'm not sure where that is going to fit from a design session standpoint given the restructuring of how that portion of the summit works | 17:43 |
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| bknudson | ok, just wanted to bring it up here since I was thinking about it and maybe there were other thoughts / agreement. | 17:44 |
| bknudson | I'll try to come up with some next steps. | 17:44 |
| tmcpeak | sounds good | 17:45 |
| bknudson | maybe something to the mailing list | 17:45 |
| nkinder_ | bknudson: perhaps we should be bringing the issues to the affected project's IRC meeting to get buy in at the PTL level | 17:45 |
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| nkinder_ | yeah, mailing list would be a good place to start too | 17:45 |
| nkinder_ | ok, any other topics? | 17:45 |
| nkinder_ | going once... | 17:46 |
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| nkinder_ | ok then | 17:47 |
| nkinder_ | #endmeeting | 17:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 11 17:47:29 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-09-11-17.05.html | 17:47 |
| nkinder_ | thanks all! | 17:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-09-11-17.05.txt | 17:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-09-11-17.05.log.html | 17:47 |
| hyakuhei | thanks nkinder_ | 17:47 |
| tmcpeak | thanks | 17:47 |
| tkelsey | thanks all | 17:47 |
| nkinder_ | hyakuhei: np. Get better! | 17:47 |
| tkelsey | +1 | 17:47 |
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| alazarev | sahara guys, are you there? | 18:02 |
| elmiko | o/ | 18:02 |
| alazarev | #startmeeting sahara | 18:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 11 18:02:35 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alazarev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:02 |
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| dmitryme | o/ | 18:02 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 18:02 |
| alazarev | I’ll chair the meeting today | 18:02 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | hi | 18:03 |
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| alazarev | ErikB, NikitaKonovalov, RobLevas, SergeyLukjanov, aignatov, alazarev, bob_nettleton, crobertsrh, dmitryme, elmiko, jspeidel, mattf, skostiuchenko, sreshetnyak, tellesnobrega, themistymay, tmckay, tosky, ylobankov: meeting time | 18:03 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | o/ | 18:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I'm mostly not here today | 18:04 |
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| crobertsrh | hello/ | 18:05 |
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| alazarev | ok, let’s start | 18:05 |
| alazarev | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda | 18:05 |
| alazarev | #topic sahara@horizon status (croberts, NikitaKonovalov) | 18:05 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | The status has not changed much | 18:06 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | we have some bug fixes and visual improvements on review | 18:06 |
| crobertsrh | Yeah, there are a few bug fixes on review | 18:06 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | but these changes are not getting any attention from horizon team | 18:06 |
| alazarev | I have 6 patchets on review in horizon | 18:06 |
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| crobertsrh | I have one change -1 workflow for now (swift trusts UI-side)...waiting for sahara merge of all the bits. | 18:07 |
| alazarev | two of them are -1 waiting for new python client | 18:07 |
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| alazarev | -1 workflow | 18:07 |
| alazarev | probably wil discuss this on Juno status topic | 18:08 |
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| alazarev | #topic sahara-juno-post-merge-changes | 18:08 |
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| alazarev | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-juno-post-merge-changes | 18:08 |
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| alazarev | oh, this is for dashboard too | 18:09 |
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| crobertsrh | Oh..that reminds me... | 18:10 |
| crobertsrh | Is the "Storm" integration still happening for Juno? | 18:10 |
| crobertsrh | I haven't heard or seen much of it lately | 18:10 |
| alazarev | yeap, I haven’t heard too | 18:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, it's nested list object - just a link | 18:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, sounds like nope | 18:11 |
| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov: yeap | 18:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I hope it'll be early K | 18:11 |
| crobertsrh | Agreed...I will move that item to my Kilo pad that I'm starting | 18:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, time to change topic | 18:11 |
| alazarev | #topic News / updates | 18:11 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #info now we have rss for specs | 18:12 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/045721.html | 18:12 |
| elmiko | all the swift-auth patches are up, just waiting on gerrit to merge. could use a few more reviews on the last 2 patches. | 18:12 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #info FFEs list - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/045448.html | 18:12 |
| elmiko | that rss feature is cool | 18:12 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info summit sessions brainstorming - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/045435.html | 18:12 |
| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov: is it supposed to be more useful than emails over gerrit? | 18:12 |
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| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov: rss | 18:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, it's just an rss for approved specs | 18:13 |
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| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov: oh, it’s for approved | 18:13 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | folks, please, pay attention on summit sessions brainstorming | 18:13 |
| tmckay | elmiko, I think all your patches are approved except for the doc one | 18:13 |
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| tmckay | elmiko, do you have one that's not? | 18:14 |
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| elmiko | tmckay: yea, the one before doc. zombie periodic hasn't been workflow'd yet | 18:14 |
| tmckay | yeah, did it | 18:14 |
| elmiko | oh wai,t nvm | 18:14 |
| elmiko | missed that one | 18:15 |
| elmiko | and thanks =) | 18:15 |
| tmckay | that's what I'm here for :) | 18:15 |
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| alazarev | I’ve found out that our pylint job near doesn’t work, so made some work on it, review are welcome: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120837/ | 18:16 |
| tmckay | I don't have a lot of news, I've been doing a lot of reviews the last several days. I have some ideas about how to use mesos as a component, I'll play some more and write a spec soon | 18:16 |
| alazarev | ok, let’s move on | 18:17 |
| alazarev | #topic Juno status and FFEs (SergeyLukjanov) | 18:17 |
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| tmckay | elmiko, we talked about a security guide | 18:17 |
| tmckay | elmiko, any ideas on that? | 18:17 |
| tmckay | maybe we don't have enough content at this point | 18:18 |
| elmiko | tmckay: sure, we could start with the proxy domain stuff, and move on from there? | 18:18 |
| elmiko | maybe we need to round up topics to start with | 18:18 |
| tmckay | alazarev, although, didn't we want to publish a list of the ports that should be added to secgroups? | 18:18 |
| elmiko | tmckay: maybe also something to talk about at summit? | 18:19 |
| tmckay | we have secgroups, but I don't think we give any guidance (unless I missed it) | 18:19 |
| tmckay | guidance == port list | 18:19 |
| tmckay | well, endpoint list, whatever you want to call it | 18:20 |
| alazarev | tmckay: probably we should share port list | 18:20 |
| tmckay | for Juno? Do you know the list? :) | 18:20 |
| alazarev | tmckay: don’t think it is good idea for Juno | 18:20 |
| tmckay | okay, that's fine with me | 18:21 |
| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov: juno status update? | 18:21 |
| tmckay | lets talk about a security doc for Kilo at Summit (if not before), like elmiko said | 18:21 |
| alazarev | tmckay: +1 | 18:21 |
| elmiko | i added an item to the topic list etherpad | 18:21 |
| tmckay | great | 18:22 |
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| alazarev | it looks like Sergey is not here, as I know Juno goes well, we will have rc around Sep 25 | 18:23 |
| alazarev | #topic Open discussion | 18:23 |
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| tmckay | yay! | 18:23 |
| tmckay | so, it seems from the activity today, we can merge anything that is not a new feature and which doesn't break string freeze | 18:24 |
| tmckay | this is my first freeze with +2 :) | 18:24 |
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| tmckay | I want to make sure I don't break anything | 18:24 |
| alazarev | do we have string freeze now? | 18:25 |
| tmckay | I thinks so, let me check the juno schedule and email | 18:25 |
| alazarev | yeah, need to be more careful | 18:25 |
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| tmckay | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Juno_Release_Schedule | 18:25 |
| tmckay | this says it was all Sep 4 | 18:25 |
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| alazarev | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Juno_Release_Schedule | 18:26 |
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| alazarev | does anyone know why we check only critical errors by pylint? | 18:27 |
| tmckay | maybe only because pylint made a lot of noise | 18:27 |
| tmckay | I've found before that turning on pylint later in a project can be very noisy | 18:28 |
| elmiko | no idea | 18:28 |
| tmckay | getting rid of all warnings can be a lot of work for existing code if it hasn't been on since the beginning | 18:28 |
| alazarev | I have guess “it works somehow after it was stolen from nova” :) | 18:28 |
| tmckay | maybe we should work toward clean pylint in the background | 18:28 |
| tmckay | non-voting, til it's clean | 18:29 |
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| elmiko | sounds like a good idea, i ran it after alazarev's patches went up and it didn't produce much output for me | 18:29 |
| alazarev | tmckay: we have nova-developed script that checks only new warnings, so it will not -1 for old issues | 18:29 |
| tmckay | oh, nice | 18:29 |
| tmckay | then I would try more than just critical | 18:30 |
| tmckay | see what happens | 18:30 |
| elmiko | is there any documentation in our stuff about using pylint? | 18:30 |
| crobertsrh | +1 to "see what happens" | 18:30 |
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| alazarev | elmiko: after patch - “Unique errors reported by pylint: was 1046, now 1046.”, before patch there were 57 | 18:30 |
| elmiko | alazarev: crazy! where did you see that report? | 18:31 |
| tmckay | heh, only 1000, that's nothing ;-) | 18:31 |
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| tmckay | at 30 seconds per erorr to fix, that's only ... | 18:31 |
| alazarev | elmiko: just “tox -e pylint” | 18:32 |
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| elmiko | huh, that's what i did but it looked clean. i must have missed something. | 18:32 |
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| elmiko | no big deal, i'll read up more. | 18:33 |
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| tmckay | fixing pylint errors would be a great project for new contributors | 18:33 |
| tmckay | get familiar with gerrit, etc | 18:34 |
| elmiko | +1 | 18:34 |
| alazarev | probably we should extend patterns for methods, vars, etc, I don’t see anything wrong with name “test_add_instance_to_node_group_id” (longer than 30 chars) | 18:34 |
| alazarev | but we can do it one-by-one | 18:35 |
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| elmiko | makes sense | 18:36 |
| alazarev | anything else to discuss? | 18:36 |
| tmckay | nothing from me | 18:36 |
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| elmiko | nothing from me | 18:37 |
| alazarev | okey | 18:37 |
| alazarev | thank you folks! | 18:37 |
| alazarev | #endmeeting | 18:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 11 18:37:32 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-09-11-18.02.html | 18:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-09-11-18.02.txt | 18:37 |
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| amitgandhinz | #startmeeting Weekly Poppy Meeting | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 11 19:00:47 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amitgandhinz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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| amitgandhinz | #topic Roll Call | 19:01 |
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| amitgandhinz | hi, who do we have for the Poppy meeting today? | 19:01 |
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| tonytan4ever | Howdy. | 19:02 |
| catherine_ | Hello! | 19:02 |
| megan_w_ | here | 19:02 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok today should be a quick meeting, agenda is fairly light | 19:03 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Review last weeks items | 19:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review last weeks items (Meeting topic: Weekly Poppy Meeting)" | 19:03 | |
| amitgandhinz | Todays Agenda: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Poppy | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2014/poppy_weekly_meeting.2014-09-04-19.00.html | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | items from last week... | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | #action amitgandhinz to investigate MaxCDN CDN Manager API for master/sub accounts | 19:05 |
| amitgandhinz | i still need to do that so roll it over... | 19:05 |
| amitgandhinz | 2. megan_w, guimarin, edward-fastly, and amitgandhinz to look into what "building out an account management system" is about | 19:05 |
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| amitgandhinz | i think megan_w_ is still in the process of looking into this. i think its something that can be taken offline, and is external to the master/sub account discussion that stemmed this item | 19:06 |
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| megan_w_ | amitgandhinz: we planned to offer both options, right? | 19:06 |
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| amitgandhinz | megan_w_: yes | 19:06 |
| megan_w_ | both the master/sub and the accoutnw ith multiple services | 19:06 |
| megan_w_ | ok | 19:06 |
| amitgandhinz | i mean we still need to research this | 19:06 |
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| megan_w_ | i wasn't trying to get out of it | 19:07 |
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| amitgandhinz | but the intent is to use master accounts and sub accounts if available | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | else default to just having configurations tied to one account | 19:07 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok (3) obulpathi to keep bugging the atlanta openstack meetup organizers to get on the schedule | 19:08 |
| amitgandhinz | any updates obulpathi? | 19:08 |
| obulpathi | Yes, I will talk to the organizers in this months meeting directly | 19:08 |
| obulpathi | and get the poppy meeting arranges | 19:08 |
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| obulpathi | the organizers are not responding to messages on meetup | 19:08 |
| amitgandhinz | #action obulpathi to keep bugging the atlanta openstack meetup organizers to get on the schedule | 19:08 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok carry on bugging them =) | 19:08 |
| obulpathi | :) | 19:08 |
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| amitgandhinz | #topic Updates on Blueprints | 19:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Updates on Blueprints (Meeting topic: Weekly Poppy Meeting)" | 19:09 | |
| amitgandhinz | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy | 19:09 |
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| amitgandhinz | there were a few merges this week completing those bp's | 19:09 |
| amitgandhinz | those were the models and flavor bp's | 19:10 |
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| amitgandhinz | currently open bp's: | 19:10 |
| amitgandhinz | create-service - tonytan4ever updates? | 19:10 |
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| tonytan4ever | It is under review, I would call it "Good Progress". | 19:11 |
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| amitgandhinz | cool. lets get some eyes on it so we can some early reviews | 19:11 |
| tonytan4ever | Most details have been filled in, now I'm checking if there's any more to fill. | 19:11 |
| amitgandhinz | ok | 19:11 |
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| mikehn | howdy | 19:12 |
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| amitgandhinz | hi mikehn!!! | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | welcome | 19:12 |
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| tonytan4ever | Hi, mikehn | 19:12 |
| obulpathi | hi mikehn | 19:12 |
| obulpathi | update on bp:health: I got couple of code reviews. Updates the pr and now trying to get the 100% test coverage for updates pr. | 19:12 |
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| obulpathi | s/Updates/Updated/ | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | ok, i'll leave it as code review then | 19:13 |
| obulpathi | yes, thanks | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | ok next one - flavor-limits | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | i updated the api docs with the stuff discussed last week on this and created a bp to implement it | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | #link http://docs.cloudcdn.apiary.io/#post-%2Fflavors | 19:14 |
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| amitgandhinz | im looking for feedback on that json structure for limits | 19:14 |
| amitgandhinz | so please review it later, and provider feedback in the normal channel | 19:14 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok, any other blueprints started? | 19:15 |
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| obulpathi | not as of now | 19:15 |
| amitgandhinz | ok moving on | 19:16 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic New Items | 19:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "New Items (Meeting topic: Weekly Poppy Meeting)" | 19:16 | |
| amitgandhinz | no new items | 19:16 |
| amitgandhinz | that was easy =) | 19:16 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Open Discussion | 19:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Weekly Poppy Meeting)" | 19:16 | |
| amitgandhinz | does any one have any open discussion items | 19:16 |
| amitgandhinz | in other news, Poppy was mentioned in this months openstack newsletter =) | 19:17 |
| obulpathi | yay!!! | 19:17 |
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| catherine_ | woot! | 19:17 |
| amitgandhinz | #link http://www.openstack.org/blog/2014/09/openstack-community-weekly-newsletter-aug-29-sep-5/ | 19:17 |
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| tonytan4ever | We made it there. | 19:18 |
| obulpathi | we should continue mailing the updates to the openstack mailing list | 19:18 |
| obulpathi | +1 to amitgandhinz for doing that | 19:18 |
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| megan_w_ | agreed. we should foster discussion on open topics | 19:18 |
| amitgandhinz | yeh | 19:18 |
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| amitgandhinz | #agreed Continue to send update to the Openstack Mailing Lists | 19:19 |
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| amitgandhinz | #agreed Foster discussion on Open Topics on ML | 19:19 |
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| obulpathi | mikehn: how did you hear about us? | 19:19 |
| mikehn | somewhere on a ml i think | 19:19 |
| amitgandhinz | do you have any updates from last week you want to share? | 19:20 |
| obulpathi | mikehn: cool | 19:20 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok, looks like this was a super quick meeting | 19:22 |
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| amitgandhinz | if no one else has anything we can call it a day =) | 19:22 |
| obulpathi | no updates from me | 19:22 |
| mikehn | amitgandhinz: not yet, fscking busy | 19:22 |
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| amitgandhinz | mikehn: ok. i know the feeling =) | 19:23 |
| amitgandhinz | ok, thanks for attending everyone | 19:23 |
| amitgandhinz | see you all in the regular channel | 19:23 |
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| amitgandhinz | #endmeeting | 19:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:23 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 11 19:23:36 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/weekly_poppy_meeting/2014/weekly_poppy_meeting.2014-09-11-19.00.html | 19:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/weekly_poppy_meeting/2014/weekly_poppy_meeting.2014-09-11-19.00.txt | 19:23 |
| obulpathi | see you all next week | 19:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/weekly_poppy_meeting/2014/weekly_poppy_meeting.2014-09-11-19.00.log.html | 19:23 |
| tonytan4ever | Bye everyone. | 19:23 |
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