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| jokke_ | anyone here? | 14:05 |
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| nikhil_k | am | 14:05 |
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| lakshmiS | yes | 14:06 |
| kragniz | jokke_: yup | 14:06 |
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| jokke_ | markwash__: o/ | 14:06 |
| markwash__ | hi hi | 14:06 |
| edleafe | o/ | 14:06 |
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| markwash__ | I just dropped in really fast b/c, due to a work conflict I can't run this one | 14:07 |
| jcook | o/ | 14:07 |
| markwash__ | somebody else is going to have to run through the agenda and do the start and stop buttons | 14:07 |
| markwash__ | also, I tagged some bugs as juno-rc1-potential, not sure if we already cut rc1 | 14:08 |
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| zhiyan | markwash__: do we plan a rc-2, if answer is no, i prefer to include https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120002/ | 14:09 |
| zhiyan | markwash__: i saw your cents thanks. just raise this up in here for other reviewers. | 14:09 |
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| lakshmiS | who is starting the meeting? nikhil_k or jokke_? | 14:10 |
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| markwash__ | zhiyan: I think we will have an rc2 if we put bug fixes in the release | 14:10 |
| markwash__ | gotta go! | 14:10 |
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| zhiyan | markwash__: ok, got | 14:10 |
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| zhiyan | oh, I miss you.. | 14:10 |
| nikhil_k | whi has the highest interest in this meeting? | 14:10 |
| kragniz | we should start the meeting | 14:10 |
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| nikhil_k | am going to push the start stop buttons | 14:11 |
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| lakshmiS | we have a bunch of CR's waiting for another +2 | 14:11 |
| ativelkov | go ahead :) | 14:11 |
| nikhil_k | howevern, people will have to please take their items as am not aware of them | 14:11 |
| jokke_ | #startmeeting glance | 14:11 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 25 14:11:49 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jokke_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:11 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:11 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:11 |
| jokke_ | #topic Concurrency issue | 14:12 |
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| ativelkov | This is mine | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | shoot :) | 14:12 |
| ativelkov | So, there is a problem in v2 | 14:12 |
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| ativelkov | in image-update routine | 14:12 |
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| ativelkov | the API fetches the image, forms a domain object, passes it through all the layers and then to DB repository | 14:13 |
| ativelkov | the repository serializes the updated object into a dict of keys and then issues an update query | 14:13 |
| ativelkov | this leads to the update of ALL attributes and extra properties | 14:13 |
| ativelkov | not only the modified ones | 14:13 |
| ativelkov | which is very likely to cause race conditions in case of concurrent update of different attributes | 14:14 |
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| rosmaita | also, it makes it really difficult to track property updates | 14:14 |
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| ativelkov | yes | 14:14 |
| ativelkov | and also hits the performance | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | if you need to know about a particular property, like for auditing or billing reasons | 14:14 |
| ativelkov | A quick (and a bit dirty) fix is to introduce "optimistic lock" using versioning | 14:14 |
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| ativelkov | i.e. update the object only if timestamp of the fetched object matches the timestamp of the object in DB | 14:15 |
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| ativelkov | This is the PS which does it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122814/ | 14:15 |
| ativelkov | however, it just solves the race, but does not help to track property values | 14:15 |
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| ativelkov | and updated_at is a datetime field in DB | 14:16 |
| ativelkov | which often has precision of seconds | 14:16 |
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| zhiyan | ativelkov: i think the approach which using update_at is nice idea, imo. but iirc, few code of update logic on image entity didn't update update_at field | 14:16 |
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| ativelkov | So, in some (quite rare, TBH) circumstances the races still may occur | 14:17 |
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| ativelkov | zhiyan: where? _image_update in sqlalchemy spi.py does it always | 14:17 |
| jokke_ | ativelkov: sounds like that does not solve the issue when you're trying to update multiple things about same time on different requests | 14:17 |
| ativelkov | jokke_: right | 14:18 |
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| ativelkov | we could introduce an extra field with better precision (microsecond-timestamps or even uuids) to solve this | 14:18 |
| ativelkov | hovever, a better approach would be to actually track the changes and update only the necessary properties | 14:19 |
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| ativelkov | (which could be combined with timestamps, btw - just to add extra proptection in case of concurrent updates of the same properties) | 14:19 |
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| ativelkov | I've started doing this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123722/ | 14:19 |
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| ativelkov | It breaks some tests though and I am working to fix them right now | 14:20 |
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| zhiyan | ativelkov: does this kind of race issue only affect image but others, like task? | 14:20 |
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| ativelkov | zhiyan: Need to check it, I have this in my backlog but didn't get there yet. It depends on how the update logic is implemented | 14:21 |
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| rosmaita | zhiyan: tasks don't have an update call exposed in API | 14:21 |
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| ativelkov | #action ativelkov to investigate if race condition affects other types od DB repositories (tasks etc) | 14:21 |
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| zhiyan | nice | 14:22 |
| jokke_ | ativelkov: I really like the later solution. Specifically for the exact reason this is issue on the first place ... or combination with more acurate timestamp | 14:22 |
| lakshmiS | I guess most of the update api's save all the fields right now. | 14:22 |
| ativelkov | So, my suggestion is to apply timestamp-based fix (with current datetime-based precision) + the property-tracking solution (when it passes the checks) | 14:22 |
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| zhiyan | rosmaita: i see, i does now, but i think this issue from db operator level. | 14:23 |
| ativelkov | then we may think about increasing accuracy of the timestamp | 14:23 |
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| zhiyan | ativelkov: do you think we could using a versioning based approach? | 14:23 |
| ativelkov | updated_at is a common field for all openstack projects, and it is always a DATETIME | 14:23 |
| ativelkov | zhiyan: yes, it is always good to have optimistic concurrency checks, but is they are made based on timestamps, then the timestamps have to have good precision | 14:24 |
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| zhiyan | ativelkov: since i'm not sure the time precision of db datetime field is always fit our requirement, iiuc. | 14:24 |
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| jokke_ | zhiyan: is there reason to use artificial version versus natural version (aka timestamp)? | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | ah | 14:25 |
| boris-42 | zhiyan ping | 14:25 |
| ativelkov | we may add extra field (say, TS) with microsecond precision | 14:25 |
| jokke_ | that datetime field explains | 14:25 |
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| zhiyan | ativelkov: i'm a little worried due to not sure if precision of particular column type is related with particular database | 14:26 |
| ativelkov | zhiyan: it is related indeed. Even with the version of it | 14:26 |
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| ativelkov | mysql added second fractions since 5.6.4 | 14:26 |
| zhiyan | but, imo, an int based (just for example) versioning field will work well for any db | 14:26 |
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| jokke_ | ativelkov: do we actually need that time based optimistic locking if we/you do the tracking change there? | 14:27 |
| zhiyan | 'second' level is too low, btw | 14:27 |
| mfedosin | btw, mysql 5.6 supports millis precision, but 5.5 doesn't | 14:27 |
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| zhiyan | mfedosin: thanks. so.. | 14:27 |
| ativelkov | zhiyan: right. However this will require us to add a new field which has the same semantics as the existing updated_at | 14:27 |
| ativelkov | jokke_: it may still be a good idea to make sure that there are no concurrent updates on the same property | 14:28 |
| zhiyan | imo, versioning field seems better, frankly | 14:28 |
| ativelkov | in case of locking one of the competing request will get Conflict response | 14:28 |
| zhiyan | db version/capability un-related | 14:29 |
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| nikhil_k | guys, we have just half an hour to go and many items to cover from agenda | 14:29 |
| nikhil_k | fyi | 14:29 |
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| ativelkov | should we move this to mailing list? | 14:29 |
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| zhiyan | ativelkov: sounds good | 14:29 |
| ativelkov | I may summarise all the stuff for further discussion | 14:29 |
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| jokke_ | ativelkov: my concern is that we do something like that and decide we're locking, but that will be only on coarse time accuracy ... kind of feels that we would be better off without it that trusting something we know we can't trust | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | zhiyan: I agree | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | ok | 14:30 |
| ativelkov | ok, let's move on | 14:30 |
| ativelkov | I'll write to ML | 14:30 |
| jokke_ | #topic Documentation patches | 14:30 |
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| ativelkov | #action ativelkov to write to ML about concurrency issue | 14:30 |
| zhiyan | btw, boris-42 has a idea for rally demo | 14:30 |
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| lakshmiS | This patches are continuing from last week meeting. We just need one more +2 on all of them | 14:31 |
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| lakshmiS | zhiyan has given his +2 on it. we need one more volunteer :) | 14:31 |
| jokke_ | lakshmiS: thanks, is there something specific you want to flag out of them? | 14:32 |
| zhiyan | lakshmiS: thanks for working on those | 14:32 |
| gokrokve | zhiyan: Do you know what is in scope of this demo | 14:32 |
| zhiyan | lakshmiS: do you think we need to put them into juno release? | 14:32 |
| zhiyan | boris-42: ^ pls tell us | 14:32 |
| boris-42 | zhiyan so | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | #action Core reviews needed for metadef patches listed in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:32 |
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| lakshmiS | The first set of patches are related to metadata properties which should be easy for anyone to review | 14:32 |
| boris-42 | zhiyan guys if you would like I am ready almost always | 14:33 |
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| boris-42 | it's just demo for about 40 minutes | 14:33 |
| zhiyan | lakshmiS: i'm not sure if we really need this stuff for juno, due to currently imo we'd better focus on bug fix? | 14:33 |
| lakshmiS | zhiyan: yes we need those juno since the definitions are related to juno release | 14:33 |
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| boris-42 | zhiyan so could you help to pick dates | 14:33 |
| lakshmiS | zhiyan: There are also bug fixes in the next set | 14:34 |
| zhiyan | boris-42: sorry, just hold on pls. | 14:34 |
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| jokke_ | lakshmiS: are these the corrections that was left to be done to get the big patch in before FF? | 14:34 |
| zhiyan | lakshmiS: do we have a etherpad which could list all patches those metadef needs in juno? | 14:34 |
| lakshmiS | Bug fixes based on previous review comments: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120957/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121836/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120334/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120355/ | 14:34 |
| lakshmiS | Its added in the meeting agenda | 14:35 |
| lakshmiS | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:35 |
| zhiyan | cool. lakshmiS that's the full list right? | 14:35 |
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| lakshmiS | zhiyan: Meeting agenda has the full list | 14:35 |
| zhiyan | nice | 14:35 |
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| jokke_ | #topic community image spec | 14:36 |
| zhiyan | lakshmiS: frankly i'm a little worried if it's a right time to merge so much patches in rc stage.. | 14:36 |
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| jokke_ | oh sorry ... I was too hasty | 14:36 |
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| zhiyan | nikhil_k: jokke_ do you think we could finish them in rc2? | 14:37 |
| lakshmiS | zhiyan: I understand. Please see whichever can. Thats why we put the data related patches first in the list since those are the least to affect any functionality | 14:37 |
| jokke_ | I haven't looked into them too closely | 14:37 |
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| jokke_ | lakshmiS: are those patches all priority and by your view at their last form? | 14:38 |
| nikhil_k | if we can have an etherpad with the state of the patches and which ones need +2s | 14:38 |
| nikhil_k | do not mean the agenda etherpad | 14:38 |
| zhiyan | nikhil_k: yep, that was my idea in above msg | 14:38 |
| lakshmiS | jokke_: nikhil_k: I will add them on another etherpad and send the link before meeting ends now | 14:39 |
| nikhil_k | cool | 14:39 |
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| nikhil_k | sounds good, thanks lakshmiS ! | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | #action lakshmiS will make etherpad with patch priority and current state for the metadef patches pending | 14:39 |
| wayne___ | The metadef bugs listed in the etherpad are the ones that need one more +2 and are in their final form | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | thanks wayne___ | 14:40 |
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| wayne___ | Unless the second core is not in agreement of course | 14:40 |
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| jokke_ | ;) | 14:40 |
| wayne___ | :) | 14:40 |
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| jokke_ | ok then back to topic ... community image spec | 14:40 |
| kragniz | so there's a spec up here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124050/1/specs/kilo/community-level-v2-image-sharing.rst | 14:41 |
| wayne___ | There are two other metadef patch sets that have not gotten any reviews at all yet | 14:41 |
| wayne___ | and are not in the etherpad list | 14:41 |
| kragniz | we've had some discussion about community images simply being a special case of shared images | 14:41 |
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| kragniz | and the spec reflects that | 14:41 |
| lakshmiS | wayne__: Add it to this etherpad : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-rc1-patches | 14:42 |
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| kragniz | it would be cool if people could have a glance over the spec and point out any problems with it | 14:42 |
| wayne___ | :lakshmiS ok | 14:42 |
| kragniz | the main question I have is how glanceclient will work with this | 14:42 |
| * ativelkov is going to check the spec, thanks | 14:43 | |
| jokke_ | kragniz: do you want to run quick summary what you were planning? | 14:43 |
| kragniz | in the spec I wrote $ glance image-update --visibility community <IMAGE> | 14:43 |
| kragniz | would make an image a community image | 14:43 |
| kragniz | any thoughts on that? | 14:43 |
| jokke_ | kragniz: so people have an idea of the approach. I don't think we have time for everyone read it through and comment within the slot we have for the meeting | 14:43 |
| ativelkov | LGTM | 14:44 |
| kragniz | jokke_: okay | 14:44 |
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| zhiyan | kragniz: then membership doesn't need to accept but will made automatically right? | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124050 | 14:45 |
| kragniz | zhiyan: membership would work in the same way that shared images currently work | 14:45 |
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| kragniz | zhiyan: the difference being the owner 'shares' it with everyone | 14:46 |
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| zhiyan | will check the spec, but iirc, base on our original talking, the membership will be made automatically without 'accept'. | 14:46 |
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| rosmaita | kragniz: i thought no membership was required for community images | 14:47 |
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| rosmaita | just for if the consumer wants it to show up in the image-list | 14:47 |
| ativelkov | on mini-summit we've agreed that the users will have to accept the membership of the community image | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | yes we did | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | ativelkov: only for display, not for usage | 14:47 |
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| zhiyan | ativelkov: ok | 14:48 |
| ativelkov | yes, sure - same as with regular membership now | 14:48 |
| kragniz | rosmaita: yes, no membership is required just to use the image | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | for community? | 14:48 |
| jokke_ | kragniz: would you think it being easy to extend this approach so that users could auto accept community images from certain providers | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | then why bother having it? | 14:48 |
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| kragniz | rosmaita: the provider of the image doesn't have to add each user who wants to use the image | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: iiuc the point is to lower the burden for community image providers maintaining the member lists | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | ^^ :) | 14:49 |
| zhiyan | ok, seems we need more discussion on this, i think we could do that in spec after re-view and thinking? | 14:49 |
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| kragniz | jokke_: yes, I think so | 14:49 |
| kragniz | zhiyan: sounds good | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | zhiyan: sounds good | 14:49 |
| kragniz | zhiyan: I just wanted to bring it up here | 14:50 |
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| jokke_ | thanks kragniz | 14:50 |
| zhiyan | kragniz: i see, thanks raise it up! | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | #topic open discussion | 14:50 |
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| jcook | /win 2 | 14:50 |
| zhiyan | boris-42: ^^ | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-rc1-patches# | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-rc1-patches | 14:50 |
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| zhiyan | boris-42: pls tell us what's you idea for rally demo? | 14:51 |
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| jokke_ | if not I'd like to raise the logging change topic again ... there was some discussion on the mailing list | 14:52 |
| abhishekk | https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1372888 | 14:52 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1372888 in glance "g-api raise 500 error if filesystem_store_datadirs and filesystem_store_datadir both specified" [Medium,Confirmed] | 14:52 |
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| zhiyan | boris-42: i could help pick a time for the demo, will check with other members who interested in this. | 14:52 |
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| jokke_ | how people want us to approach that. Should we drop all user related to debug? | 14:53 |
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| abhishekk | is 410 resonse ok for "g-api raise 500 error if filesystem_store_datadirs and filesystem_store_datadir both specified" | 14:53 |
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| nikhil_k | seems like we have 2 conversations going on here.. | 14:54 |
| abhishekk | nikhil_k:sorry, i will step back | 14:54 |
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| jokke_ | abhishekk: if that currently breaks the server I think we should not let it even start with that configuration# | 14:55 |
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| zhiyan | abhishekk: seems it's a worth point for us, i prefer to address in juno release | 14:56 |
| zhiyan | will take a look | 14:56 |
| abhishekk | jokke_, zhiyan:thank you | 14:56 |
| jokke_ | regarding the logging I'd like to get the reviews for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116626/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117204/ so we could land them in J | 14:56 |
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| jokke_ | in my point of view they're ready to land and the first one I have some support for that point ;) | 14:57 |
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| zhiyan | jokke_: all user related stuff going to debug level? | 14:58 |
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| jokke_ | zhiyan: that seems to be what Sean and Jay wan'ts ... personally I disagree strongly but no other opinions were raised on the discussions# | 14:59 |
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| zhiyan | ok | 14:59 |
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| jokke_ | ok, we're out of time. Thanks everyone! | 14:59 |
| zhiyan | ok, seems we have a lot patches want to fit into juno in rc stage | 14:59 |
| zhiyan | heh | 14:59 |
| jokke_ | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 25 15:00:02 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-09-25-14.11.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-09-25-14.11.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-09-25-14.11.log.html | 15:00 |
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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 25 15:00:27 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hello | 15:00 |
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| vponomaryov | hi | 15:00 |
| deepakcs | hi | 15:00 |
| TriV|2 | hi | 15:00 |
| csaba | hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | hey guys | 15:01 |
| xyang1 | hi | 15:01 |
| bfic | hi | 15:01 |
| deepakcs | hello bswartz | 15:01 |
| bswartz | short agenda today | 15:01 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | #topic bugs and rc2 | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | so rc1 happened yesterday | 15:02 |
| bswartz | thanks to all the effort to get the bugs closed out, both from reviewers and submitters | 15:02 |
| bswartz | this morning some new critical bugs popped up though so I've setup an rc2 in launchpad | 15:03 |
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| bswartz | #link https://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/juno-rc2 | 15:03 |
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| bswartz | please keep testing RC1 until there is an RC2 | 15:04 |
| bswartz | it probably won't be that long | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | if anyone does find a critical bug, please make sure the core team knows so we can triage it and maybe put it in rc2 | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | and let's really hope there is no rc3 | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | any bugs that someone wants retargetted? | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | okay | 15:06 |
| bswartz | #topic dev status | 15:06 |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov: do you have anything new? | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | except that you have already mentioned: | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | 1) manila has been moved to "openstack" namespace from "stackforge" for those who does not know | 15:07 |
| vponomaryov | 2) manila docs were updated and released to openstacl site: | 15:07 |
| vponomaryov | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/manila/ | 15:07 |
| deepakcs | yay! | 15:07 |
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| bswartz | oh yeah did that happen since last week's meeting? | 15:07 |
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| vponomaryov | yes | 15:07 |
| bswartz | it seems like ages ago for me | 15:07 |
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| vponomaryov | last friday | 15:07 |
| bswartz | it's been a long week for me :-( | 15:07 |
| vponomaryov | and about bug fixes - all of them are going to be finished and available in gerrit today | 15:08 |
| vponomaryov | all three for RC2 | 15:08 |
| deepakcs | vponomaryov, does the below still qualify to be in the developer docs new location ? | 15:08 |
| deepakcs | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/docs/Setting_up_DevStack_with_Manila_on_Fedora_20 | 15:08 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: any reason we shouldn't cut a RC2 immediately after they're merged? | 15:08 |
| deepakcs | I dont see it in http://docs.openstack.org/developer/manila/ | 15:08 |
| xyang1 | vponomaryov: I only saw 2 bugs targeted for RC2? | 15:08 |
| vponomaryov | xyang1: not commited yet, meeting started | 15:09 |
| bswartz | xyang1: one is tagged security | 15:09 |
| rushil | deepakcs: See developer guide | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | you might not be in the right group to see it | 15:09 |
| xyang1 | ok | 15:09 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: yes, we can close it with these three bug fixes | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | xyang1: can you see it now? | 15:09 |
| deepakcs | rushil, seeing.. and scrolling thru.. is it already there ? | 15:09 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: one bug fix indeed not uploaded yet by me, but it is ready without unittests | 15:09 |
| xyang1 | yes, I see all 3 now | 15:10 |
| deepakcs | rushil, i don't find it in the dev guide... point me to it in case u r able to | 15:10 |
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| rushil | deepakcs: Yes, I can see -> http://docs.openstack.org/developer/manila/devref/cluster_mode_driver.html, and http://docs.openstack.org/developer/manila/devref/cluster_mode_driver.html | 15:10 |
| bswartz | okay need to make sure you're on the manila security group | 15:10 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: ok | 15:10 |
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| rushil | deepakcs: EMC VNX docs will also be up soon | 15:10 |
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| bswartz | anyone have any idea how to modify the security group on LP? | 15:11 |
| deepakcs | rushil, ok, the doc i pointed to is not gluster specific btw | 15:11 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: docs updates are going to be in RC2? | 15:11 |
| deepakcs | rushil, its about setting up devstack+manila on F20 | 15:11 |
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| deepakcs | rushil, i think it shud have a link form dev guide section | 15:11 |
| deepakcs | s/form/from | 15:11 |
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| deepakcs | rushil, in the "Setting up dev env" section | 15:12 |
| rushil | deepakcs: You can navigate from the dev docs page. We can take this offline. :) | 15:12 |
| xyang1 | vponomaryov, bswartz: I hope the VNX doc can make it into RC2. just updated another patch. | 15:12 |
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| bswartz | okay so we have 2 topics going on | 15:12 |
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| rushil | xyang1: I think the docs deadline is Oct 16 | 15:12 |
| bswartz | I'll figure out the security stuff later | 15:12 |
| xyang1 | rushil: ok. thanks | 15:12 |
| bswartz | regarding docs, we're not really locking them for the juno | 15:12 |
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| deepakcs | rushil, sure | 15:13 |
| bswartz | I don't see the point, since the "master" docs will be available constantly | 15:13 |
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| bswartz | so some doc fixes will get pulled into RC2, but it shouldn't matter | 15:13 |
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| xyang1 | bswartz: ok | 15:13 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: ya, docs are usually released later | 15:14 |
| bswartz | if a doc fix merges right after rc2 it will still be available to everyone immediately | 15:14 |
| bswartz | obviously we'd like to get the docs in good shape before the final release | 15:14 |
| bswartz | on Oct 16 | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | but bugs still take priority | 15:14 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: by available to everyone, you mean it will be in a readable format like this? http://docs.openstack.org/developer/manila/devref/cluster_mode_driver.html | 15:15 |
| bswartz | yeah my understanding is that those pull from master | 15:15 |
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| xyang1 | sure | 15:15 |
| bswartz | not from proposed/juno | 15:15 |
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| bswartz | so it doesn't matter when they merge as long as they get in | 15:16 |
| xyang1 | ok, good | 15:16 |
| bswartz | okay well that's all I had | 15:16 |
| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:16 |
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| bswartz | don't forget the etherpad for Paris design summit topics is still open | 15:17 |
| bswartz | we'll need to organize that and come up with a plan soon | 15:17 |
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| vponomaryov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-manila-summit-topics | 15:17 |
| bswartz | also please vote for me in the upcoming PTL election :-) | 15:17 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: err, what link? | 15:17 |
| xyang1 | vponomaryov: you'll receive private email with a link | 15:18 |
| vponomaryov | ok | 15:18 |
| bswartz | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTL_Elections_September/October_2014 | 15:18 |
| bswartz | the election starts tomorrow | 15:18 |
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| xyang1 | bswartz: since you are the only one declared candidacy, you'll be automatically elected | 15:18 |
| bswartz | everyone who has authored a merged change in manila is eligible to vote | 15:19 |
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| xyang1 | bswartz: unless if there's someone else running | 15:19 |
| vponomaryov | oh, thats why there were lots of doc fixes =) | 15:19 |
| bswartz | xyang1: nobody else is running -- but the point is to get people used to the idea of voting now that we're an official project | 15:19 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: lol, yes | 15:19 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: sure | 15:19 |
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| bswartz | some day I might step down or someone else might want to run against me | 15:20 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: It's great to have an official election | 15:20 |
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| bswartz | okay anything else? | 15:21 |
| bswartz | please review changes for the rc2-targeted bugs | 15:22 |
| vponomaryov | +1 | 15:22 |
| bswartz | with luck we'll do rc2 tonight | 15:22 |
| vponomaryov | with Ci blessing =) | 15:22 |
| bswartz | thanks all | 15:22 |
| xyang1 | thanks | 15:22 |
| vponomaryov | thanks | 15:22 |
| deepakcs | thanks all | 15:22 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:22 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 25 15:22:46 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:22 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-09-25-15.00.html | 15:22 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-09-25-15.00.txt | 15:22 |
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| deepakcs | vponomaryov, since manila is official, does devstack auto include manila, or we still need to use custom localrc to enable manila/neutorn ? any idea ? | 15:23 |
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| vponomaryov | deepakcs: we are allowed to update oficial devstack | 15:23 |
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| deepakcs | vponomaryov, ok | 15:24 |
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| hyakuhei | #startmeeting OpenStack Security Group | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 25 17:00:58 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hyakuhei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| tkelsey | hello all | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_security_group' | 17:01 |
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| hyakuhei | Good evening / morning all | 17:01 |
| tkelsey | hyakuhei: \o | 17:01 |
| sweston | Morning! | 17:01 |
| hyakuhei | Are we enjoying this very peaceful and uneventful week? | 17:01 |
| michaelxin | morning | 17:01 |
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| bknudson | hi | 17:01 |
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| sicarie | It's nice to be able to sit back, relax, and know that all is calm | 17:02 |
| chair6 | g'day | 17:02 |
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| nkinder_ | hi all | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | Right, I expect we've all got stuff to do this week | 17:02 |
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| hyakuhei | Quick round up of vulnerabilities you probably should know about | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | Shellshock - google it. Bad times | 17:03 |
| michaelxin | yup. patching time | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | LibNSS has an issue with RSA signature checking - bad times for Keystone I expect | 17:04 |
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| hyakuhei | Libvncserver has a remote bof but standard openstack deployments shouldn't be affected as QEMU doesn't use it | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | QEMU has two vulnerabilities that are reasonably horrible, pcihp.c and vga.c | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | pcihp.c has some nasty implications and the operators of clouds should go check if they're affected | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | Xen has a monumnetally bad vuln which is embargoed until October 1st | 17:05 |
| nkinder_ | hyakuhei: you mean Mozilla NSS? | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | And that concludes my little rundown | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | nkinder_: yeah | 17:05 |
| nkinder_ | hyakuhei: keystone uses openssl | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | Didn't have time to put notes together so just running from memory | 17:06 |
| michaelxin | thanks for the update | 17:06 |
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| hyakuhei | I though ayoung loved NSS for the pki stuff? | 17:06 |
| morganfainberg | hyakuhei, but we use OpenSSL | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | Happy to stand corrected, one less thing for everyone to worry about :) | 17:06 |
| morganfainberg | :) | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | Great | 17:06 |
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| hyakuhei | Ok so I was going to talk about elections and things today but I've not had time to prep much | 17:06 |
| bknudson | if you're running keystone in apache then you can use nss, I think. | 17:07 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, not for token sig checking afaict. | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security/OSSG_Lead_Election_Fall_2014 | 17:07 |
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| nkinder_ | bknudson: yes, but that's for SSL only (not token signing) | 17:08 |
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| hyakuhei | I will follow up with an email about that soon, short version : It's time to pick a leader for the OSSG next release cycle | 17:08 |
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| hyakuhei | ok, so agenda items for today? | 17:09 |
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| tkelsey | i poked bandit, its fun :-) got some patches submitted if people fancy reviewing | 17:10 |
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| hyakuhei | Sure - links ? | 17:10 |
| tkelsey | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124039/ | 17:11 |
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| tkelsey | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124058/ | 17:11 |
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| hyakuhei | Awesome - thanks tkelsey | 17:12 |
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| hyakuhei | welcome bdpayne ! | 17:12 |
| bdpayne | :-) | 17:12 |
| tkelsey | hyakuhei: welcome, it was fun playing with bandit. Nice tool | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | nkinder_: how are the OSSNs looking? | 17:13 |
| chair6 | tkelsey we should get you looking at the framework too .. i'm sure there's bugs to be found and fixed :) | 17:13 |
| tkelsey | chair6: sure thing | 17:13 |
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| nkinder_ | hyakuhei: coming along nicely. There are 3 in flight | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | Anything need reviewing? | 17:14 |
| nkinder_ | So 0024 needs another +2 | 17:14 |
| hyakuhei | Link please? | 17:14 |
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| tkelsey | hyakuhei: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114460/ | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | ty | 17:15 |
| tkelsey | OSSN 24 | 17:15 |
| tkelsey | np | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | Cool | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | Other agenda items? | 17:16 |
| nkinder_ | sorry, in another meeting that was scheduled over this one... | 17:16 |
| nkinder_ | So for OSSNs, there are a few things... | 17:16 |
| nkinder_ | I have one which is being sent out for review today. | 17:17 |
| nkinder_ | The recent note that went out for a FWaaS issue wasn't reviewed by a neutron core | 17:17 |
| bdpayne | oh, sorry | 17:17 |
| nkinder_ | The contents were fine, but it would have been nice to point out that FWaaS is experimental | 17:17 |
| bdpayne | I thought it had | 17:17 |
| nkinder_ | No biggie | 17:17 |
| bdpayne | which is why I approved it | 17:17 |
| bdpayne | (I think I'm the one that approved it) | 17:17 |
| nkinder_ | Yeah, just a reminder for folks to look up the group in gerrit | 17:18 |
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| bdpayne | or, perhaps we could leave the final approvals to nkinder? | 17:18 |
| tkelsey | I wrote that one, sorry all | 17:18 |
| bdpayne | and just do our reviews | 17:18 |
| hyakuhei | not your fault tkelsey | 17:18 |
| bdpayne | ? | 17:18 |
| hyakuhei | SPOF | 17:18 |
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| bdpayne | perhaps a policy like that would help avoid mistakes down the road? | 17:18 |
| hyakuhei | Someone from neutron reviewed it right | 17:18 |
| nkinder_ | hyakuhei: no | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | I'm disinclined to decide policy based on single events, that's how bad rules and horrible processes come about | 17:19 |
| nkinder_ | It's hard to enforce via gerrit rules, as we need to know what the affected project is | 17:19 |
| nkinder_ | and the commits are tied to our security-doc repo | 17:19 |
| nkinder_ | So I think the answer is just "be careful" when approving | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | Lets learn from that and only ok it on workflow if you're confident it's been reviewed by a core. If you're not sure, then punt it to nkinder_ :P | 17:20 |
| bdpayne | fair enough | 17:20 |
| nkinder_ | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:20 |
| tkelsey | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:20 |
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| nkinder_ | bdpayne, tmcpeak, and I were discussing if we should issue a OSSN for the bash issue | 17:20 |
| nkinder_ | I know chair6 was also doing some research yesterday | 17:20 |
| tkelsey | yeah i was thinking about that as well | 17:20 |
| bdpayne | ah yeah | 17:20 |
| chair6 | all somewhat cursory and not sure how useful it was, but it could be considered a datapoint :) | 17:21 |
| bdpayne | so I think it could be useful just given the press that this thing has been getting | 17:21 |
| nkinder_ | I'm OK wit us publishing a note if someone wants to write it up | 17:21 |
| nkinder_ | We should reserve this sort of general purpose security note for big issues like this (and heartbleed) | 17:21 |
| bdpayne | yeah | 17:22 |
| hyakuhei | +1 same as we did with heartbleed, give the community something to refer all the people who will be asking about it to | 17:22 |
| bknudson | hopefully the OSSN will just say that OpenStack doesn't do the kind of thing that makes it vulnerable | 17:22 |
| nkinder_ | as far as we know... | 17:22 |
| tkelsey | do we have a precedent for this kind of note? | 17:22 |
| nkinder_ | tkelsey: I wrote a note for heartbleed | 17:22 |
| tkelsey | link/number ? | 17:22 |
| chair6 | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OSSN/OSSN-0012 | 17:22 |
| tkelsey | ah cool :) | 17:22 |
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| nkinder_ | So, anyone want to take on writing it up? | 17:23 |
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| nkinder_ | It's sort of a "strike while the iron is hot" issue | 17:23 |
| nkinder_ | There's no way I will get to it myself today | 17:24 |
| hyakuhei | Ditto. | 17:24 |
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| tkelsey | wont be able to commit to getting it done today :-( | 17:25 |
| bdpayne | unfortunately, I'm in the same very busy boat | 17:25 |
| nkinder_ | Fun times for everyone :) | 17:25 |
| bdpayne | perhaps we punt on this one? | 17:25 |
| nkinder_ | Yeah, or maybe I'll be able to get to it tomorrow... | 17:25 |
| * nkinder_ says hopefully | 17:25 | |
| hyakuhei | Throw it on LP see if someone can pick it up tomorrow | 17:25 |
| nkinder_ | ok, I'll create a LP | 17:26 |
| tkelsey | nkinder_: I can pick it up tomorrow UK time id no one else gets it before then | 17:26 |
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| hyakuhei | Great - thanks tkelsey | 17:28 |
| nkinder_ | ok, LP filed for shellshock | 17:28 |
| nkinder_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn/+bug/1374055 | 17:28 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1374055 in ossn "Publish a security note about bash "shellshock" vulnerability" [Undecided,New] | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | Great | 17:28 |
| nkinder_ | That's all I have for OSSNs right now | 17:28 |
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| hyakuhei | So I imagine everyone is super busy today. Anything else for the agenda ? | 17:28 |
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| nkinder_ | One more thing to mention around SSL | 17:29 |
| nkinder_ | The changes to devstack to enable SSL for all endpoints was approved last night | 17:29 |
| nkinder_ | It's still fighting with the gate | 17:29 |
| bdpayne | oh nice | 17:29 |
| nkinder_ | But, that should make it though today. We can start to investigate SSL gate jobs once it's available | 17:29 |
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| bknudson | there's also a change to make it easy for you to set the token hash algorithm (e.g., to sha256) | 17:30 |
| nkinder_ | bknudson: link? | 17:30 |
| nkinder_ | here's the devstack SSL review - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98854/ | 17:31 |
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| bknudson | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116535/ | 17:31 |
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| bknudson | set KEYSTONE_TOKEN_HASH_ALGORITHM=sha256 | 17:31 |
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| bknudson | it would be neat to have a tempest run that configures SSL and the token hash algorithm | 17:32 |
| nkinder_ | bknudson: nice. That will need to be reflected in the security overview page for Keystone in Juno | 17:32 |
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| nkinder_ | I plan to do a pass through the changes in Keystone now that we're so close to RC | 17:32 |
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| bknudson | where's that? | 17:33 |
| bknudson | security guide? | 17:33 |
| nkinder_ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security/Juno/Keystone | 17:33 |
| nkinder_ | bknudson: I think a few of your changes in Juno need to be reflected there | 17:33 |
| nkinder_ | bknudson: you've done some good hardening work :) | 17:34 |
| bknudson | it's all I can do. | 17:34 |
| nkinder_ | I think that's all I had for today. | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | Great, anyone else ? | 17:34 |
| bknudson | I'll put it on my todo to see if that page needs updates, too | 17:34 |
| bknudson | wishes it was in gerrit | 17:34 |
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| nkinder_ | bknudson: I'll propose moving it there (again) | 17:35 |
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| nkinder_ | bknudson: lance had done that in the beginning, but we punted on it | 17:35 |
| bknudson | now that we have multiple versions/releases it makes more sense | 17:35 |
| nkinder_ | +1 | 17:35 |
| hyakuhei | So I've got one question | 17:36 |
| hyakuhei | Anyone know why the second round patch/package update for Shellshock is taking so long? | 17:36 |
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| hyakuhei | I guess not :) Ok then, that's a wrap peoples! | 17:38 |
| hyakuhei | #endmeeting | 17:38 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 25 17:38:26 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-09-25-17.00.html | 17:38 |
| tkelsey | thanks all | 17:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-09-25-17.00.txt | 17:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-09-25-17.00.log.html | 17:38 |
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| nkinder_ | thanks everyone! | 17:39 |
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| tmckay | o/ | 18:00 |
| tmckay | \o | 18:01 |
| tosky | o/ | 18:01 |
| elmiko | yo | 18:01 |
| crobertsrh | hello/ | 18:01 |
| mattf | \o/ | 18:01 |
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| alazarev | #startmeeting sahara | 18:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 25 18:02:03 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alazarev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 18:02 |
| alazarev | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda | 18:02 |
| alazarev | #topic sahara@horizon status (croberts, NikitaKonovalov) | 18:02 |
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| aignatov | o/ | 18:02 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | o/ | 18:03 |
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| tosky | hi again | 18:03 |
| alazarev | all my patches are merged except https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118493/ | 18:03 |
| alazarev | +1’s are welcome | 18:03 |
| tmckay | how about +2s ? :) | 18:03 |
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| alazarev | tmckay: +2s are welcome too, but… slightly wrong audience | 18:04 |
| tmckay | ah, horizon, lol. I didn't look | 18:04 |
| mattf | can't hijack w/ a shellshock ? | 18:05 |
| alazarev | Nikita, Chad, any news? are we ok for J? | 18:05 |
| tmckay | yeah, for open topics, we should discuss being nice and fixing up all our images for shellshock | 18:05 |
| alazarev | it looks there is no our horizon huys, let’s move on | 18:06 |
| crobertsrh | I think we're in ok shape. Sergey has our patches on the radar of their core team | 18:06 |
| alazarev | crobertsrh: great! | 18:07 |
| crobertsrh | sorry...I was distracted (baby crying) | 18:07 |
| alazarev | #topic News / updates | 18:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "News / updates (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:07 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | all of the changes we need for Juno has been added to th rc1 mandatory list | 18:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | (re horizon) | 18:07 |
| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov: great too! | 18:07 |
| mattf | did our +.5 talk on sahara in paris get promoted to +1? | 18:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, nope | 18:07 |
| elmiko | i've been working on reviews and a few small bug fixes. also doing a bunch of downstream work to get Sahara j3 into RDO. | 18:07 |
| mattf | SergeyLukjanov, demoted to -1? | 18:08 |
| aignatov | finally my patch was merged about updated rest api stuff | 18:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info the new client release 0.7.4 is out and it will be a "juno release" version of client | 18:08 |
| tmckay | anything outstanding for Sahara for Juno? Bugs, documentation that must still be fixed or reviewed? Blueprint status cleanup? | 18:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, sounds like this | 18:08 |
| mattf | darn | 18:08 |
| mattf | we had a good run | 18:08 |
| alazarev | mattf: 0.5 usually means 0, there is a rumor that person declined his topic becomes banned | 18:09 |
| tmckay | aignatov, oh, a topic! We need to put checks back in so that doc-only changes (.rst files) don't run CI | 18:09 |
| tmckay | or, agree that we can ignore failed CI on those and just approve | 18:09 |
| tmckay | instead of beating on CI until it passes | 18:09 |
| tmckay | changed Copyright notice on the user guide. Does the cluster run? | 18:10 |
| * tmckay shakes head ^^ | 18:10 | |
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| alazarev | if it is not too hard I would vote on auto +1 on non-code patches | 18:10 |
| aignatov | tmckay: I thinnk all of us agreed that we need such checks | 18:10 |
| sreshetnyak | I created images for Juno release | 18:10 |
| tmckay | aignatov, should we make an action item out of it? What do we need, blueprint and spec? Who knows CI enough to write a spec? | 18:11 |
| elmiko | sreshetnyak: tmckay was asking about the bash versions in those images. we might need to respin them to catch the shellshock vulnerability. | 18:11 |
| tmckay | sreshnetnyak, yes, I wonder if it's worth adding post-install elements to DIB to patch shellshock. | 18:12 |
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| tmckay | Alternative is just wait for normal OS patches and respin later | 18:12 |
| elmiko | well fedora already has the patches in F20 | 18:12 |
| crobertsrh | +1 to respin later | 18:12 |
| alazarev | I wanted to get familiar with CI stuff for a long time, I can volunteer on this | 18:12 |
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| mattf | +1 respin when os fixed | 18:12 |
| tmckay | I think it's nicer to patch DIB ourselves in cases where the patch isn't in general updates yet. But, maybe others disagree | 18:12 |
| crobertsrh | I bet shellshock isn't our biggest security threat | 18:13 |
| * mattf agrees | 18:13 | |
| elmiko | crobertsrh: agreed | 18:13 |
| tosky | elmiko: I'm not sure the Fedora patches are complete... yet | 18:13 |
| elmiko | tosky: they're not, but they pass the first smell test | 18:13 |
| aignatov | tmckay: anyway, we can approve pathches with non-related to docs -1s from CI | 18:13 |
| tmckay | okay, wait for later. That was easy. | 18:13 |
| sreshetnyak | tnckay, I will check version of bash on the images | 18:13 |
| tmckay | alazarev, +1 on volunteering | 18:14 |
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| tmckay | #action alazarev volunteers to add a blueprint/spec for doc-change-only filter on CI | 18:14 |
| tmckay | sreshnetnyak, thanks | 18:14 |
| mattf | can we pre-+2 that spec? heh. | 18:15 |
| alazarev | tmckay: probably it is easier just do it without spec :) | 18:15 |
| tmckay | okay. just following rules ;-) | 18:15 |
| mattf | i'd agree that it's not substantial enough to warrant a spec | 18:16 |
| tmckay | aignatov, +1 on +2 for doc changes with failed CI. From now on I'm just going to approve, no recheck | 18:16 |
| alazarev | #agreed merge doc bugs even with -1 from CI | 18:16 |
| tmckay | hmm, okay, how do nuke the #action? Or just leave it and mark it done next week | 18:17 |
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| alazarev | tmckay: it is good enough I think | 18:17 |
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| aignatov | tmckay: ++, approve all those patches | 18:17 |
| alazarev | ok, no action items from previous meeting | 18:17 |
| * tmckay is really into process today | 18:17 | |
| alazarev | #topic Juno status and FFEs (SergeyLukjanov) | 18:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Juno status and FFEs (SergeyLukjanov) (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:17 | |
| aignatov | I’ll do the same :\ | 18:18 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, the rc1 is ready | 18:18 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | we've fixed all bugs | 18:18 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and only doc changes are open | 18:18 |
| tosky | the known bugs :) | 18:18 |
| * tosky hides | 18:18 | |
| elmiko | lol | 18:18 |
| alazarev | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Juno_Release_Schedule | 18:18 |
| SergeyLukjanov | sure, known :) | 18:18 |
| tmckay | are you a QA guy or somethinig, tosky? | 18:18 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, we'll have rc1 tag tomorrow | 18:18 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and master will be opened for Kilo dev after it | 18:19 |
| alazarev | hidden QA :) | 18:19 |
| SergeyLukjanov | nothing else from my side | 18:19 |
| alazarev | #topic Open discussion | 18:19 |
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| mattf | sahara bug free, ship it! | 18:19 |
| mattf | aww, too slow. tosky saw it. | 18:19 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: could you look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123836/ again, we have the links in place now | 18:19 |
| crobertsrh | Is the Summit schedule correct? I don't see anything Sahara related (at least not as of yesterday) | 18:20 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, do you mean design summit? or summit itself | 18:20 |
| tmckay | all, we should pay some attention to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110576/ It's an interesting question, and might relate to swift creds in spark jobs later on | 18:20 |
| aignatov | the first question or idea: reffering to recent patch fixing OSSA in our code, I think we need to have quick security checks someday | 18:20 |
| crobertsrh | summit itself. I suspect our design summit topics are still being sorted out | 18:20 |
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| tmckay | it's been there a while, I mean to get to it ASAP. The question is whether or not Sahara should carry a compat class, or wrap oozie jobs in such a way that the config values are pulled in transparently | 18:21 |
| tmckay | or, just make folks alter their jobs to read the config file (current solution) | 18:22 |
| tmckay | aignatov, what kind of quick security checks? | 18:22 |
| elmiko | tmckay: maybe a Spark user lib? | 18:22 |
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| aignatov | tmckay: just quick look by eyes and see what we have now :) | 18:23 |
| tmckay | elmiko, possible, the same would relate to the Java action. But you'd still have to at least import it | 18:23 |
| elmiko | tmckay: yea, tough issue | 18:23 |
| aignatov | I think recent ossa fixed by alazarev was easy to detect :) | 18:23 |
| tmckay | aignatov, ah, I thought you meant automated | 18:23 |
| tmckay | agreed. Nice work, alazarev | 18:24 |
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| alazarev | grep “/tmp” sahara -r :) | 18:24 |
| aignatov | lol | 18:24 |
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| tmckay | just realized that the flight to Summit is the day after Halloween. | 18:25 |
| tmckay | I don't know if I can make it. Sugar coma. | 18:25 |
| crobertsrh | You'll sleep great after sugaring out | 18:26 |
| elmiko | lol | 18:26 |
| aignatov | lol | 18:26 |
| elmiko | just gotta have the family drop him off at baggage check | 18:26 |
| alazarev | BTW, I don’t fly to Summit :( | 18:26 |
| elmiko | :( | 18:26 |
| mattf | alazarev, walk? train? hitch? | 18:27 |
| elmiko | alazarev: i hope you're not planning on swimming? | 18:27 |
| mattf | ooooh, teleport? | 18:27 |
| elmiko | nice | 18:27 |
| crobertsrh | TaaS | 18:27 |
| elmiko | that's the real money crobertsrh | 18:27 |
| crobertsrh | I'll get to work on that | 18:27 |
| aignatov | travel as a service? | 18:27 |
| tmckay | alazarev, that's too bad. We'll do design summit on IRC :) | 18:27 |
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| crobertsrh | Teleport aaS | 18:28 |
| elmiko | WaaS, wormhole... | 18:28 |
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| alazarev | will fly to Hawaii, just to reduce pain :) | 18:28 |
| elmiko | alazarev: ++ | 18:28 |
| mattf | elmiko, peacekeeper war? | 18:28 |
| crobertsrh | Who *is* going to be at summit? We probably need to sort out our design sessions/leaders soon. | 18:28 |
| elmiko | mattf: oooh, nice call /tipsfedora | 18:28 |
| tmckay | crobertsh, good point. | 18:29 |
| mattf | i looked at the pad and too much of it is in my color | 18:29 |
| elmiko | hey, i added a few token ideas =) | 18:29 |
| tmckay | tmckay, crobertsrh, elmiko, mattf ... who else? | 18:30 |
| mattf | tosky, ? | 18:30 |
| aignatov | me | 18:30 |
| aignatov | I hope :) | 18:30 |
| tmckay | SergeyLukjanov, of course, right? | 18:30 |
| * mattf can only lead sessions early in the conf... | 18:30 | |
| crobertsrh | Heh | 18:30 |
| tosky | mattf: should I add something to the pad? | 18:30 |
| elmiko | lol | 18:30 |
| * crobertsrh knows why | 18:30 | |
| mattf | and not early in the morning | 18:30 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, sure | 18:30 |
| mattf | crobertsrh, you are why | 18:30 |
| crobertsrh | lol | 18:31 |
| mattf | tosky, if you have ideas, esp if you're coming | 18:31 |
| tosky | oh, ok | 18:31 |
| sreshetnyak | tmckay, bash version on images: http://paste.openstack.org/show/115377/ | 18:31 |
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| * elmiko is excited to party with tosky | 18:31 | |
| crobertsrh | It might be a good idea to have a session dedicated to testing and such | 18:32 |
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| tmckay | sreshetnyak, thanks! So, Fedora is okay already | 18:32 |
| elmiko | sreshetnyak: yay fedora! | 18:32 |
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| alazarev | anything else to discuss? | 18:33 |
| sreshetnyak | elmiko, I build Fedora images ~2 hours ago :) | 18:33 |
| tmckay | not from me | 18:34 |
| elmiko | sreshetnyak: yea =) | 18:34 |
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| sreshetnyak | CentOS and Fedora images ~2 days ago :( | 18:34 |
| elmiko | s/Fedora/Ubuntu | 18:34 |
| sreshetnyak | yes :) | 18:35 |
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| alazarev | ok, thank you guys! | 18:35 |
| alazarev | #endmeeting | 18:35 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 25 18:35:58 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-09-25-18.02.html | 18:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-09-25-18.02.txt | 18:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-09-25-18.02.log.html | 18:36 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, please, send log links to the ML | 18:38 |
| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov: Ok | 18:39 |
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| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov: done | 18:41 |
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| malini | time to poppy!! | 18:59 |
| miqui | yeah! | 19:00 |
| malini | #startmeeting Poppy Weekly Meeting | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 25 19:00:11 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is malini. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:00 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'poppy_weekly_meeting' | 19:00 |
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| malini | can we get a rollcall plz? | 19:00 |
| miqui | miqui is here | 19:00 |
| obulpathi | o/ | 19:00 |
| guimarin | guimarin from fastly here | 19:00 |
| obulpathi | hi miqui .. welcome to Poppy | 19:00 |
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| miqui | thanks | 19:00 |
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| ametts | o/ | 19:01 |
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| obulpathi | hi guimarin | 19:01 |
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| guimarin | hi | 19:01 |
| tonytan4ever | Howdy all | 19:01 |
| malini | looks like we have a good crowd today :) | 19:01 |
| malini | miqui: want to introduce yourself? | 19:01 |
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| miqui | hi folks, am located EST tz, work for HP | 19:02 |
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| miqui | for 15+ yrs... excited about opensource... | 19:02 |
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| malini | great to have you here miqui ! | 19:02 |
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| miqui | thanks malini.... | 19:02 |
| obulpathi | oh cool. | 19:02 |
| malini | starting with the agenda | 19:03 |
| malini | #topic action items from last time | 19:03 |
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| malini | amitgandhinz to investigate MaxCDN CDN Manager API for master/sub accounts ( | 19:03 |
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| malini | Since amit is out, lets carry it over to next week | 19:03 |
| malini | #action amitgandhinz to investigate MaxCDN CDN Manager API for master/sub accounts | 19:03 |
| obulpathi | malini: can you please post the link the previous action items? | 19:04 |
| malini | obulpathi to keep bugging the atlanta openstack meetup organizers to get on the schedule | 19:04 |
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| malini | obulpathi:sure | 19:04 |
| obulpathi | and yes, on that node .. I got it done this time :) | 19:04 |
| malini | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2014/poppy_weekly_meeting.2014-09-18-19.00.html | 19:04 |
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| malini | obulpathi: great! can you share the details? | 19:04 |
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| obulpathi | Poppy meetup is scheduled 16 th November | 19:04 |
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| malini | yayyy!! | 19:05 |
| obulpathi | for more details: http://www.meetup.com/openstack-atlanta/events/207006052/ | 19:05 |
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| malini | tht is right after the Paris summit | 19:05 |
| obulpathi | yes, we will also be celebrating the Juno release | 19:05 |
| miqui | obulpathi: 16th Oct or Nov? | 19:05 |
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| obulpathi | miqui: yes, | 19:05 |
| obulpathi | this is a local meetup is Atlanta | 19:06 |
| obulpathi | we meet every month and discuss about openstack | 19:06 |
| miqui | yep. signed up...will be there... | 19:06 |
| catherine | meetup says 10/16 | 19:06 |
| malini | ok..right before the summit then :-P | 19:06 |
| obulpathi | next month we will be talking about Poppy there | 19:06 |
| obulpathi | Cool. see you at the meetup | 19:06 |
| malini | great job obulpathi! this will help bring some visibility for Poppy | 19:06 |
| obulpathi | thanks malini :) | 19:06 |
| malini | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Poppy#New_Items | 19:06 |
| malini | next item in the agenda | 19:07 |
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| malini | #topic blueprints | 19:07 |
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| malini | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy | 19:07 |
| malini | first one is create-service | 19:07 |
| malini | tonytan4ever: updates? | 19:07 |
| tonytan4ever | This one is experiencing several rounds of review | 19:08 |
| tonytan4ever | So it is currently under review | 19:08 |
| malini | My API tests for that is also under review, which explains some of my review comments | 19:08 |
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| tonytan4ever | OK I will look into your test. | 19:09 |
| malini | thanks! appreciate that | 19:09 |
| malini | tonytan4ever: next one is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/get-service | 19:09 |
| tonytan4ever | OK this one is currently under review as well. | 19:09 |
| tonytan4ever | obulpathi has reviewed it, now someone else review would be appreciated. | 19:10 |
| malini | I will review that after the meeting | 19:10 |
| tonytan4ever | Then you are appreciated. | 19:10 |
| malini | :) | 19:10 |
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| malini | miqui: these are our outstanding reviews https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/poppy,n,z if you would like to take a look | 19:11 |
| malini | ok..moving along | 19:11 |
| obulpathi | from my side | 19:11 |
| miqui | great thanks malini | 19:11 |
| miqui | will do.. | 19:11 |
| obulpathi | health is waiting to be merged | 19:12 |
| malini | we have this one next https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/list-services | 19:12 |
| malini | miqui: yw | 19:12 |
| obulpathi | list-services is in good-progress | 19:12 |
| malini | it is currently unassigned | 19:12 |
| obulpathi | it depends on tonys get services | 19:12 |
| malini | Can you make sure to get tht assigned to yourself obulpathi? | 19:12 |
| malini | we will need amit to do that | 19:12 |
| obulpathi | only amit can assign it to me | 19:13 |
| malini | yeap | 19:13 |
| malini | next is sqla driver https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/sqla-driver | 19:13 |
| malini | nitin around? | 19:13 |
| malini | guess not | 19:14 |
| obulpathi | he said he will be off for couple of weeks | 19:14 |
| malini | ok..thanks for the update obulpathi | 19:14 |
| malini | next is also unassigned https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/add-docstrings | 19:14 |
| malini | nobody has started on this one yet & is up for grabs | 19:14 |
| obulpathi | ok | 19:15 |
| malini | (hint hint) | 19:15 |
| miqui | i can grab that... | 19:15 |
| obulpathi | cool ... | 19:15 |
| miqui | seems like low hanging project intro fruit.. | 19:15 |
| malini | great..Thanks miqui!! | 19:15 |
| malini | we will get that assigned to you when amit comes back | 19:15 |
| malini | tht will be early next week, but should not stop you from starting | 19:16 |
| miqui | k | 19:16 |
| malini | And now the last in the list | 19:16 |
| malini | obulpathi: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/health | 19:16 |
| obulpathi | it is waiting to be merged | 19:16 |
| obulpathi | addressed comments by malini, tony and amit | 19:17 |
| obulpathi | and test coverage is also there | 19:17 |
| malini | looks like we have a bunch of stuff ready to be merged | 19:17 |
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| malini | We will be in a better position by next week on tht | 19:18 |
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| malini | we don't have any bugs to discuss yet | 19:18 |
| obulpathi | nop ... | 19:18 |
| obulpathi | we don't have | 19:18 |
| malini | next topic now | 19:18 |
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| malini | #topic Inquire/Discuss MaxCDN python API | 19:18 |
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| malini | tonytan4ever: want to lead this? | 19:19 |
| tonytan4ever | First of all, is there any MaxCDN folks here ? | 19:19 |
| tonytan4ever | 1..2..3 I guess not. | 19:20 |
| malini | :( | 19:20 |
| tonytan4ever | We can roll this over to next week. | 19:20 |
| malini | megan_w_: can you help us get somebody from MaxCDN? | 19:20 |
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| megan_w_ | sure | 19:20 |
| malini | thanks! | 19:20 |
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| tonytan4ever | Thank you megan. | 19:20 |
| megan_w_ | we'll shoot to have them here next week, or we can meet during the week in the poppy channel | 19:20 |
| malini | #action megan_w_ to get a MaxCDN point of contact | 19:21 |
| malini | next topic | 19:21 |
| malini | #topic Poppy standardization on provider specific restrictions | 19:21 |
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| malini | we discussed this briefly, but do not have a clear answer yet | 19:22 |
| malini | Here is a brief synopsis of the problem: | 19:22 |
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| malini | Different providers have different rules on what service names could be, allowed ttl values etc. | 19:22 |
| malini | How do we want poppy to handle this? | 19:22 |
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| tonytan4ever | You can look at http://docs.cloudcdn.apiary.io/, | 19:23 |
| malini | If we choose the strictest rules to implement, it'll be greatly limiting | 19:23 |
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| tonytan4ever | there is a flavor details section that has the initial design of the implmenation. | 19:23 |
| malini | I dont think I explained very well | 19:24 |
| malini | for eg. | 19:24 |
| malini | should Poppy limit Max Length of domains list - because provider_a allows 2 & provider_b allows 10? | 19:24 |
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| malini | megan_w_, guimarin_: thoughts? | 19:25 |
| megan_w_ | can that be implemented in the plugins somehow instead of the base api? | 19:26 |
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| tonytan4ever | I think the idea on this one is, poppy will not limit it. | 19:26 |
| megan_w_ | just like we may adjust default settings per provider, should we set limits per provider? | 19:26 |
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| megan_w_ | right, poppy itself shoud not limit | 19:26 |
| tonytan4ever | Operator will set a standard per flavor | 19:26 |
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| malini | tonytan4ever: so accept whatever comes in & let it fail at the provider? | 19:27 |
| obulpathi | so, one way I see is poppy can mediate the limits like name restrictions, number of origins / distribution /service ... but I am not sure how we cna take care of ttls | 19:27 |
| malini | obulpathi: IMO we should not take care of this | 19:27 |
| tonytan4ever | Not failed at the provider exactly, but to check against the flavor standard. | 19:28 |
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| obulpathi | for naming ... we can let user create a service / distribution with what ever name the user wants and we will create an intermediate name and store the map in cassandra | 19:28 |
| tonytan4ever | Then take actions accordingly. | 19:28 |
| obulpathi | malini: OK | 19:28 |
| malini | My vote is to limit Poppy validations to rules defined in http://docs.cloudcdn.apiary.io/ (eg. make sure mandatory fields are present etc.), pass the request to the provider, let it fail & return the failure message when the user queries the service status | 19:29 |
| malini | But tht sounds too simple, so obviously can't be right :D | 19:29 |
| miqui | heheh | 19:29 |
| obulpathi | hahahah | 19:29 |
| obulpathi | simple is better | 19:29 |
| megan_w_ | let me ask a basic question then | 19:29 |
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| malini | megan_w_: shhot | 19:30 |
| megan_w_ | is there any real value to the end user if poppy sends them an error vs the provider sending an error? | 19:30 |
| miqui | same difference..i think... | 19:30 |
| megan_w_ | if not (and i dont think there is), we should just let each provider return an error when their limit is hit | 19:30 |
| malini | megan_w_: Poppy will return a faster response | 19:30 |
| miqui | also depends on who smart the err msg from the provider is... | 19:30 |
| megan_w_ | very true | 19:31 |
| malini | yes | 19:31 |
| miqui | sanity errors from poppy, but operational errors from the provider.no? | 19:31 |
| malini | If we end up validating provider specific validation, we might end up re-implementing all the provider logic for input validation | 19:31 |
| obulpathi | miqui: +1 | 19:31 |
| miqui | after all the provider code will do the real work... | 19:31 |
| obulpathi | we can check for basic errors .. sanity cehck | 19:32 |
| malini | miqui: what is a sanity error? | 19:32 |
| megan_w_ | like what? | 19:32 |
| obulpathi | and let the providers take care of operationsl errors | 19:32 |
| megan_w_ | missing feilds? | 19:32 |
| miqui | like for example supplied params that do not make any sense at all | 19:32 |
| megan_w_ | right. ok | 19:32 |
| malini | so we'll validate for eg. the domain value is not 1234 etc. | 19:33 |
| megan_w_ | this seems like the right approach to me. speed shouldn't be a major concern for a provisioning api, and the providers need to have smart errors for their own customers | 19:33 |
| miqui | given xyz prvider poppy should handle the crazynes upfriont.. | 19:33 |
| malini | but not if the domain name is ascii or not | 19:33 |
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| malini | tht sounds reasonable to me | 19:34 |
| malini | & it will make our implementation a lot easier | 19:34 |
| obulpathi | agreed: +1 | 19:34 |
| miqui | +1 | 19:34 |
| malini | We just need to make sure we capture & return the error messages from the provider | 19:34 |
| miqui | yup | 19:34 |
| megan_w_ | malini: want to mark that as a decision using the meetingbot? | 19:35 |
| megan_w_ | or something so it doesn't get lost | 19:35 |
| malini | megan_w_: yes. | 19:35 |
| miqui | question: would a goal be for poppy simply the usage of a vendor api? | 19:35 |
| malini | was looking for the right hash tag :) | 19:35 |
| malini | megan_w_: want to answer that? | 19:35 |
| megan_w_ | miqui: yes, that's right | 19:36 |
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| miqui | k... | 19:36 |
| miqui | thanks megan_w_ | 19:36 |
| ametts | malini: https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot | 19:36 |
| megan_w_ | the idea is that operators can jump from provider to provider as needed without integrating with each api. | 19:37 |
| megan_w_ | rather, they just change flavors in poppy | 19:37 |
| malini | #accepted Poppy will do basic sanity check on the inputs to make sure it is consistent with Poppy rules defined in http://docs.cloudcdn.apiary.io/ Provider specific validations is not within the scope of Poppy. Poppy will however capture the error message from providers & return it to the users. | 19:37 |
| malini | thanks ametts! | 19:37 |
| malini | #info Poppy will do basic sanity check on the inputs to make sure it is consistent with Poppy rules defined in http://docs.cloudcdn.apiary.io/ Provider specific validations is not within the scope of Poppy. Poppy will however capture the error message from providers & return it to the users. | 19:38 |
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| malini | tht's all we had in the agenda | 19:38 |
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| malini | #topic open discussion | 19:38 |
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| obulpathi | poppy also abstracts the differences between vendors and presents a uniform API ... | 19:38 |
| obulpathi | just to add to what megan said | 19:38 |
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| malini | Anybody has stuff they would like to discuss? | 19:39 |
| obulpathi | miqui: do you stay near Atlanta? | 19:39 |
| miqui | yes | 19:39 |
| obulpathi | awesome .. | 19:39 |
| obulpathi | will look forward to meeting you at the meetup then | 19:39 |
| miqui | yup...same here... | 19:39 |
| obulpathi | :) | 19:40 |
| malini | anything else? | 19:40 |
| miqui | now just have to rfm all this poppy docs... hehehe | 19:40 |
| malini | miqui: ping us in #openstack-poppy if something doesn't make sense | 19:40 |
| miqui | awesome thanks.... | 19:40 |
| tonytan4ever | Wht is rfm ? | 19:41 |
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| miqui | Read The Fucking Manual... | 19:41 |
| malini | :D | 19:41 |
| tonytan4ever | Oh... | 19:41 |
| miqui | sorry for the language... | 19:41 |
| catherine | you left out the T! :) | 19:41 |
| miqui | college prof told me that...learning progamming 101 | 19:41 |
| miqui | ooops yu right catherine | 19:42 |
| miqui | sorry | 19:42 |
| tonytan4ever | Learned something. | 19:42 |
| obulpathi | also called read the flaming manuals | 19:42 |
| miqui | indeed | 19:42 |
| malini | on the plus side, it is easier than reading somebody's comments in half awake state :) | 19:42 |
| catherine | or Read the Fine Manuals. | 19:42 |
| miqui | obulpathi: ahahahahah yes... | 19:42 |
| malini | looks like we are out of 'relevant' topics for the day | 19:43 |
| malini | so unless anybody has anything | 19:43 |
| malini | . | 19:43 |
| malini | ..... | 19:43 |
| malini | ……..... | 19:43 |
| obulpathi | no nothing form me | 19:43 |
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| ametts | Thanks for running the meeting malini! | 19:43 |
| tonytan4ever | I am good. | 19:43 |
| catherine | Bye! | 19:43 |
| miqui | thanks! | 19:43 |
| tonytan4ever | Thanks everyone. | 19:43 |
| tonytan4ever | Bye. | 19:44 |
| miqui | bye | 19:44 |
| obulpathi | thanks malini :) | 19:44 |
| malini | my pleasure ametts :-P | 19:44 |
| megan_w_ | good meeting, see ya next week | 19:44 |
| malini | thank you all | 19:44 |
| obulpathi | see you all next week | 19:44 |
| malini | see you next week & in #openstack-poppy | 19:44 |
| malini | bye | 19:44 |
| malini | #endmeeting | 19:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:44 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 25 19:44:28 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2014/poppy_weekly_meeting.2014-09-25-19.00.html | 19:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2014/poppy_weekly_meeting.2014-09-25-19.00.txt | 19:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2014/poppy_weekly_meeting.2014-09-25-19.00.log.html | 19:44 |
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