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baoli | #startmeeting PCI Passthrough | 13:00 |
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openstack | baoli: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 13:00 |
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baoli | #endmeeting | 13:01 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 30 13:01:48 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2014/barbican.2014-09-29-20.00.html | 13:01 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2014/barbican.2014-09-29-20.00.txt | 13:01 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2014/barbican.2014-09-29-20.00.log.html | 13:01 |
baoli | #startmeeting PCI Passthrough | 13:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 30 13:02:06 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is baoli. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'pci_passthrough' | 13:02 |
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baoli | Hi there | 13:02 |
heyongli | hi | 13:02 |
rpothier | hi | 13:02 |
irenab | hi | 13:02 |
baoli | let's start with bugs | 13:03 |
baoli | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1370348 | 13:03 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1370348 in nova "Using macvtap vnic_type is not working with vif_type=hw_veb" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 13:03 |
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baoli | irenab, is it ok to fix it from the nova side? | 13:04 |
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irenab | according to Daniel comment, it should be OK to configure vlan in scope of nova | 13:04 |
irenab | baoli: fine with me. Less work on neutron side :-) | 13:04 |
baoli | irenab, so do we create a vlan interface or just set the vlan in the vf? | 13:05 |
irenab | baoli: set vlan in the vf | 13:05 |
baoli | irenab, ok. is itzik going to work on this? | 13:05 |
irenab | baoli: I do not think so | 13:06 |
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baoli | irenab, that's fine. In that case, let me post the review soon. | 13:07 |
irenab | baoli: great, thanks | 13:07 |
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baoli | heyongli, how is the resize investigation going? | 13:08 |
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heyongli | i checking this problem but pull by other thing | 13:08 |
heyongli | for now | 13:08 |
heyongli | resize from 1 pci to more pci devices is work.. | 13:09 |
baoli | heyongli, ok | 13:09 |
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heyongli | but not very carefully check , but at least host not die | 13:09 |
heyongli | and OS response ok, i need to dig more to reproduce the bug | 13:09 |
baoli | heyongli, that's no what I saw. Did you check the resulting domain xml, and did you try to login into the instance? | 13:09 |
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heyongli | not now , i land it to our CI, not that detail yet | 13:10 |
baoli | In the xml, the number of PCI devices are not correct, Also, I couldn't login to the instance. | 13:11 |
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heyongli | ok baoli , i'm gong to extern the test case . but this week is our vacation wekk | 13:12 |
heyongli | week | 13:12 |
heyongli | i will not response mail 1 week and miss next meeting | 13:12 |
baoli | heyongli, ok, no problem. I'll look into it as well whenever time allows | 13:13 |
heyongli | ok, thanks then | 13:13 |
baoli | any other issues/bugs to discuss? | 13:14 |
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irenab | What about next development, accordign to etherpad? | 13:14 |
baoli | irenab, that's the next thing we'll discuss after bugs | 13:15 |
baoli | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo_sriov_pci_passthrough | 13:15 |
heyongli | irenab, or anyone do you have any design about the next kilo? | 13:15 |
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baoli | So once the kilo BP/specs opens up, we should add ours | 13:15 |
sadasu | I have an update... | 13:16 |
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sadasu | the Cisco UCS manager plugin now has to support non-sr-iov, regular VMs | 13:16 |
heyongli | baoli, yeah, before that we need a work partion or how to coopration | 13:16 |
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baoli | heyongli, yes. | 13:17 |
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heyongli | any idea? | 13:17 |
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heyongli | or show many resource you guy got? | 13:18 |
irenab | I think we need to see what is important to progress | 13:18 |
baoli | heyongli, how about we pick up one of the first two items, one for each? | 13:18 |
heyongli | ok for me | 13:18 |
baoli | irenab, yes, we need to agree on the priorities first. | 13:19 |
heyongli | which one you have worked more on? | 13:19 |
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baoli | heyongli, the first one | 13:19 |
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heyongli | plugin/migration seems more important to us | 13:19 |
irenab | what about number 4? | 13:19 |
heyongli | ok, baoli, you work more on the live migration | 13:20 |
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baoli | irenab, yes, that's a good feature to have | 13:20 |
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irenab | also we probably need to have option to make nova boot to work without previously port create | 13:21 |
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irenab | I'll look into number 4 for more details | 13:21 |
heyongli | irenab, we seems lots of problem to altting the nova api | 13:22 |
baoli | irenab, that's going to be a tough battle. But with the default added to the network, it's going to be a given | 13:22 |
baoli | irenab, that's great | 13:22 |
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irenab | baoli: I also think that having number 4, will make nova boot work. But still no fullGUI support | 13:22 |
sadasu | let me add that to the etherpad..I don't think it is specifically mentioned | 13:23 |
heyongli | irenab, thanks we can push that by all of us | 13:23 |
heyongli | sadasu, seems not, thanks | 13:23 |
heyongli | full GUI? | 13:23 |
heyongli | what that? | 13:24 |
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irenab | heyongli: work via dashboard, without cli | 13:24 |
sadasu | heyongli: whats your question? | 13:24 |
baoli | irenab, forgot to report that one of our engineers will enhance horizon for creating sr-iov ports | 13:24 |
irenab | with number 4 supported, still need to create network with default vnic_type associated, and this will be probably via cli | 13:25 |
sadasu | heyongli: I think some folks from Cisco are starting to look at this from Horizon's pov | 13:25 |
heyongli | irenab, got, thanks | 13:25 |
heyongli | thanks clearify sadasu | 13:25 |
irenab | sadasu: Can you please share more details? | 13:25 |
baoli | heyongli, what's number 14? | 13:26 |
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heyongli | baoli, i remember lot's of people don't like whitelist and call for module solution | 13:27 |
heyongli | we can try | 13:27 |
sadasu | irenab: for a minute I thought the discussion was about GUI support for sr-iov config | 13:27 |
irenab | sadasu: I believe it was | 13:27 |
sadasu | irenab: but now, it doesn't seem to be | 13:27 |
baoli | heyongli, can you add more details into the etherpad? | 13:27 |
heyongli | baoli sure | 13:28 |
irenab | please let's have one discussion at a time :-) | 13:28 |
baoli | sadasu, irenab, let's talk about gui then | 13:28 |
sadasu | so for a start we would like to be able to configure the diff vnic-types via Horizon during port-creation step | 13:28 |
irenab | sadsu: so, it would be possible to set vnic_type per chosen network for VM? | 13:29 |
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sadasu | as a stretch goal, they are also looking into displaying available PCI devices per compute host | 13:29 |
baoli | irenab, it's the ability to specify vnic-types for a port in horizon | 13:30 |
sadasu | irenab: that is correct | 13:30 |
baoli | irenab, if you added number 4, then that should be added into horizon as well | 13:30 |
baoli | s/added/add | 13:30 |
irenab | given that, do we still want default vnic_type per network? | 13:31 |
irenab | baoli: got it | 13:31 |
sadasu | there is no API that currently provides available PCI devices per compute host that Horizon can readily leaverage | 13:31 |
irenab | which takes me to number 6 and 7 on etherpad | 13:32 |
heyongli | sadasu, the api might there, i remember a extention to the host is added, but i need check it with our guy. | 13:32 |
sadasu | can we also add this API to list of Kilo items on the etherpad? | 13:33 |
baoli | heyongli, it doesn't seem to be merged. | 13:33 |
irenab | sadsu: I think we should | 13:33 |
sadasu | heyongli, can you confirm by next week's meeting? | 13:33 |
heyongli | baoli, i need check that, | 13:33 |
baoli | well, I think I'm wrong. | 13:33 |
heyongli | and fill the table after i got detail | 13:33 |
baoli | check 'nova help' | grep pci | 13:34 |
heyongli | sadasu, next meeting i will not attend, cause of national day of China | 13:34 |
sadasu | but keep in mind that even if API is present / will be available soon, we haven't still looked into Horizon specific issues | 13:34 |
irenab | Does anyone have ideas what we desired for admin/tenant APIs? | 13:35 |
sadasu | heyongli: will you be able to confirm the current status of those changes via email to the ML sometime during the week then? | 13:35 |
heyongli | #AR baoli, there might some story there , i will check that any way. about the api ext about show host | 13:35 |
heyongli | sadasu, after 1 week, i can ,yes | 13:35 |
sadasu | irenab: can u be more specific? | 13:36 |
sadasu | heyongli: thanks...that will do | 13:36 |
heyongli | that APi not a stand alone one | 13:36 |
heyongli | might be show hyper visor thing, i fogot detail. | 13:36 |
irenab | sadasu: you mentioned 'get available pci devices'. What else should be available for admin/tenant? | 13:36 |
baoli | heyongli, I think it's not merged. | 13:37 |
heyongli | item 8, | 13:37 |
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heyongli | baoli, i remember because of API version things, maybe. if not, we will restarting that job i think | 13:38 |
irenab | sadsu: via API/ flavor | 13:38 |
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baoli | heyongli, thanks | 13:38 |
sadasu | irenab: just have that one so far..and should it be admin only API? | 13:38 |
heyongli | item 8, i had something enhancement about schedule filter also, might could merge the this worklist | 13:38 |
irenab | Shall we go for more advanced requirements, like BW | 13:39 |
baoli | heyongli, do you have a patch or spec available? | 13:39 |
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heyongli | baoli, i had one, will paste some detail after vacation | 13:40 |
baoli | heyongli, sounds good | 13:40 |
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heyongli | item12, i will check that bug, i think something been addressed and some not. i will figure it out | 13:41 |
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baoli | heyongli, yes, the sr-iov work that's merged have some of them addressed already | 13:42 |
irenab | sadasu: regarding GUI support, is there already some patch? | 13:42 |
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sadasu | irenab: no...not even close...just started looking into it yesterday | 13:44 |
irenab | sadasu: thanks | 13:44 |
sadasu | more importantly to see if, any action items have to be added on Nova/Neutron side to support Horizon changes | 13:45 |
baoli | irenab, sadasu, how about the MD refactoring | 13:45 |
irenab | sadasu: agree | 13:45 |
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sadasu | baoli: wanted to discuss that if discussion for nova items are done | 13:46 |
irenab | sadasu mentined some new requirements for cisco MD | 13:46 |
heyongli | baoli, irenab, refracting is good, intresting to me | 13:46 |
sadasu | so the requirements for Cisco UCS manager MD now include support of non-sr-iov VMs | 13:47 |
baoli | I think that we need to dedicate some time on it in next meeting | 13:47 |
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irenab | on Mellanox side, there is also InfiniBand support that I need to take care of | 13:47 |
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sadasu | and my feeling that this MD is going to keep evolving to support other non-sr-iov features over the next few releases | 13:48 |
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irenab | baoli: OK. I suggest we exchange some emails regarding the requirement prior the meeting, to make it more efficient | 13:48 |
sadasu | so, keeping both of that in mind, how can we proceed with the refactoring? | 13:48 |
baoli | irenab, let's do that, can you guys start the thread? | 13:49 |
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sadasu | we have 10 mins...lets do some now | 13:49 |
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sadasu | Kilo: Mellanox : InfiniBand, Cisco : Non-sr-iov | 13:50 |
baoli | sadasu, let's agree on the priories if we can. | 13:50 |
sadasu | irenab: are you planning to add Infiniband suppport to the existing MD? | 13:50 |
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sadasu | baoli: in cisco's case, kilo support of sr-iov is not optional | 13:51 |
irenab | sadsu: still not decided. There is Mellanox MD that may evolve to support it | 13:51 |
sadasu | I am guessing it is the same with mlnx | 13:51 |
irenab | sadasu: Will try to figure it out till next meeting | 13:51 |
irenab | sadsu: yes | 13:52 |
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sadasu | irenab: ok | 13:52 |
baoli | sadasu, irenab, let's think it through offline, and start the thread. | 13:52 |
baoli | ok, back to priorities | 13:53 |
irenab | baoli: fine | 13:53 |
sadasu | I am wondering if we our respective neutron MDs are diverging significantly in kilo | 13:53 |
sadasu | baoli: sure | 13:53 |
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baoli | so 1, 2, 13 at the top of list? | 13:54 |
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irenab | The question is if we want to have code reuse for both MDs | 13:54 |
irenab | baoli: and 4? | 13:55 |
baoli | irenab, yes | 13:55 |
irenab | somehow numbering is wrong now... | 13:55 |
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baoli | irenab, sadasu, refactoring is important as well. If it's really something desirable, then it should be addressed in kilo. | 13:56 |
irenab | baoli: we should define what we want to achive with refactoring | 13:57 |
irenab | code reuse/ singe MD with drivers,... | 13:57 |
sadasu | baoli: I consider that as Neutron priority list item | 13:57 |
sadasu | baoli: let us figure of Nova priorities first | 13:57 |
baoli | so nova side, 1, 2, 13, neutron side, 4, 10 | 13:57 |
baoli | irenab, I agree. | 13:58 |
irenab | good. Let's discuss it during our next meeting | 13:59 |
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baoli | well, time is almost up. So we still have a little time to think about. We should start the BPs/Specs, soon so that we can make it for Kilo | 13:59 |
sadasu | baoli: +1 for priorities listed above | 13:59 |
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irenab | it feels like something that we do not need session at the summit, agree? | 13:59 |
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baoli | thanks everyone. Has to end this meeting now | 14:00 |
baoli | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 30 14:00:47 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2014/pci_passthrough.2014-09-30-13.02.html | 14:00 |
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baoli | irenab, I put the kilo list in the kilo nova session etherpad. | 14:01 |
irenab | baoli: can you please post the link? | 14:01 |
heyongli | thank, and bye | 14:01 |
baoli | irenab, let me find out | 14:01 |
irenab | thanks | 14:01 |
irenab | heyongli: enjoy the holidays | 14:02 |
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heyongli | irenab, thanks | 14:02 |
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baoli | irenab: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-summit-topics | 14:02 |
irenab | baoli: thanks a lot | 14:03 |
baoli | irenab, np | 14:03 |
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baoli | heyongli, where are you goin? | 14:04 |
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sc68cal | hello all | 15:03 |
aveiga | hello | 15:03 |
xuhanp | hello | 15:03 |
baoli | heloo | 15:03 |
baoli | hello | 15:03 |
sc68cal | #startmeeting neutron_ipv6 | 15:03 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 30 15:03:42 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sc68cal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:03 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:03 |
john-davidge | hello | 15:03 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ipv6' | 15:03 |
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sc68cal | Just a gentle reminder if there are any high priority bugs that we want to fix during the RC phase, let me or cores know | 15:06 |
sc68cal | I saw a couple get classified yesterday | 15:06 |
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john-davidge | I'd like to discuss https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87987 if possible | 15:07 |
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sc68cal | sure | 15:07 |
john-davidge | Specifically using a fixed prefix for the initial IPv6 private subnet vs. a randomly generated one | 15:07 |
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baoli | I want to point out that devstack is used for development, not for a real deployment | 15:08 |
john-davidge | I can see the appeal of using random generation, but I also feel that the results of running stack.sh should be predictable | 15:08 |
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sc68cal | I'll point out that DevStack is deployed by some in real datacenters and real equipment | 15:09 |
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sc68cal | still for dev purposes, but it's not always existing on a laptop | 15:09 |
aveiga | #link http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4193#section-3.2 RFC 4193 Global ID | 15:09 |
baoli | aveiga, are you suggesting to incorporate the algorithm desceibed in 4193 in lib/neutron? | 15:10 |
aveiga | personally, I'll be disabling ULA addressing in our deployments | 15:10 |
aveiga | baoli: if we're going to default to ULA, then yes | 15:10 |
aveiga | if you're going to use it, follow the RFC | 15:10 |
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baoli | aveiga, do you know any existing tools to do that? | 15:10 |
baoli | aveiga, for v4, the default is 10.0.0.0/24. | 15:11 |
sc68cal | I suggested in my review to dd a few bytes from /dev/random and use hexdump to stringify | 15:11 |
aveiga | baoli: no, I don't. I don't know if I've said this before, but I'm not much of a programmer. I'm a network engineer who goes deep in the RFCs and has deployment experience with IPv6 | 15:12 |
sc68cal | then concat with the ULA block | 15:12 |
aveiga | and IPv4 doesn't have a random ID requirement as RFC1918 space is never meant to route | 15:12 |
john-davidge | Would we also want to prevent the user from specifying a fixed ULA prefix? And if so should this not be a feature in Neutron? | 15:12 |
sc68cal | out of scope for neutron | 15:12 |
aveiga | john-davidge: nop, we should allow it since they may been joining a provider network that is preconfigured | 15:12 |
sc68cal | neutron assumes you understand networking and addressing | 15:13 |
aveiga | I can see bare metal existing on the same l2-segment | 15:13 |
baoli | keep in mind that the default can be overwritten | 15:13 |
sc68cal | yeah but a bad default is a bad default | 15:13 |
aveiga | baoli: agreed. Defaults should be sane and follow RFC though | 15:13 |
aveiga | if restacking and getting the same addresses is necessary, add the scope to your stack script | 15:13 |
sc68cal | john-davidge: a question for you, I see you are using link local addresses for everything else, including the public v6 net | 15:14 |
aveiga | but sc68cal is correct that there are people deploying multi-node devstack as a real build tied to the rest of a lab network | 15:14 |
sc68cal | by default | 15:14 |
john-davidge | I can see what you're saying in terms of RFC complaince | 15:15 |
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sc68cal | john-davidge: can you comment on your thought process for using LLAs for the other v6 subnets that devstack creates, including the public ipv6 subnet? | 15:16 |
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baoli | sc68cal, the link local addr is used between the namespace and the host. | 15:18 |
john-davidge | baoli: I belive the defult addresses were part of your contributions | 15:18 |
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baoli | sc68cal, aveiga, ipv4 with the default of 10.0.0.0/24 has the same risk. | 15:24 |
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sc68cal | I disagree | 15:25 |
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sc68cal | *unique* local address | 15:25 |
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baoli | what the script does is to add a private ipv6 subnet into the network 'private' | 15:26 |
sc68cal | then use LLAs | 15:26 |
sc68cal | like you did for all the other nets | 15:26 |
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baoli | LLAs are auto generated | 15:27 |
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sc68cal | so then why are you setting IPV6_PUBLIC_RANGE=${IPV6_PUBLIC_RANGE:-fe80:bad:dad::/64} ? | 15:28 |
john-davidge | baoli: I think we're talking about IPV6_PUBLIC_RANGE which is set on line 95 | 15:28 |
baoli | sc68cal, it's to setting up the router so that the gateway port and br-ex are on the same network. | 15:29 |
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baoli | the ipv6 private subnet needs to be created with neutron | 15:30 |
aveiga | I don't have a problem with any of this. I just think we need to follow the RFC and generate pseudo-random scopes | 15:32 |
aveiga | is this really a big problem? | 15:32 |
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aveiga | if it's necessary to have the same scope every time you restack, specify it in neutron subnet-create | 15:33 |
baoli | Besides, the private subnet prefix can be a global IPv6 addresses. | 15:33 |
aveiga | I just don't want defaults to violate RFCs, regardless of use | 15:33 |
baoli | So that the VM can communicate with the ipv6 internet | 15:33 |
baoli | In my localrc, I have it assigned with a global ipv6 prefix | 15:34 |
aveiga | right, which is totally fine | 15:34 |
aveiga | just change the default to not have a fully blank ULA prefix, as it violates the spec | 15:34 |
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baoli | aveiga, so randomness is not required? | 15:35 |
john-davidge | aveiga: that makes sense to me, I'm sure we can do that | 15:35 |
aveiga | baoli: it is for the default scope when nothing is specified | 15:35 |
baoli | that sounds good to me | 15:35 |
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aveiga | yup, asnd that's all I recommeneded in the review | 15:35 |
john-davidge | Ok great, I'll get started on that | 15:35 |
HenryG | It is easy to get a few random hex digits with uuidgen. | 15:35 |
aveiga | +1 | 15:36 |
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baoli | Ok, that's fine to me as well since it doesn't sound a big task to achieve. | 15:36 |
HenryG | uuidgen | sed s/-//g | cut -c 24- | sed "s/\(....\)\(....\)\(..\)/\1:\2:\3/" | 15:36 |
HenryG | :) | 15:36 |
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john-davidge | HenryG: :) | 15:37 |
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HenryG | There are two bugs that should really go in Juno, but they are blocked because of string freeze | 15:39 |
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aveiga | HenryG: are you referring to https://review.openstack.org/116525 ? | 15:40 |
HenryG | yes, that is one | 15:40 |
HenryG | The other is https://review.openstack.org/117799 but I don't see a string there, so it should go in. | 15:41 |
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baoli | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123744/ as well | 15:42 |
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haleyb | john-davidge: and there's always the python random library that we already use for MAC address generation | 15:43 |
xuhanp | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101433/ this one has been moved out of RC1 as well | 15:43 |
HenryG | baoli: That is a client change, not dependent on release cycle. | 15:43 |
baoli | HenryG, I see. | 15:44 |
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john-davidge | haleyb: Thanks, will take a look | 15:44 |
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HenryG | xuhanp: Thanks, I lost track of that one :( I kinda thought it was already merged. | 15:45 |
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xuhanp | yep. we got a -1 which requires some clarifications. Now it gets removed. | 15:46 |
HenryG | So we have three patches that we want to campaign for getting in RC2. | 15:46 |
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adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 16:00 |
openstack | adrian_otto: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 16:00 |
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adrian_otto | oh, neutron needs to finish | 16:00 |
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adrian_otto | is the neutron meeting still active, or has it gone idle? | 16:01 |
coolsvap | sc68cal, need to end ipv6 meeting | 16:01 |
coolsvap | i think its idle | 16:01 |
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mspreitz | sc68cal is host | 16:02 |
adrian_otto | mspreitz: thanks | 16:02 |
mspreitz | sc68cal: are you still there? | 16:02 |
sc68cal | #endmeeting | 16:02 |
sc68cal | sorry | 16:02 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 30 16:02:36 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:02 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2014/neutron_ipv6.2014-09-30-15.03.html | 16:02 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2014/neutron_ipv6.2014-09-30-15.03.txt | 16:02 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2014/neutron_ipv6.2014-09-30-15.03.log.html | 16:02 |
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adrian_otto | thanks sc68cal | 16:02 |
adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 16:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 30 16:02:53 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:02 |
adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers Our Agenda | 16:03 |
adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 16:03 |
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adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 16:03 |
Slower | o/ | 16:03 |
Slower | Ian Main | 16:03 |
dguryanov | Dmitry Guryanov | 16:03 |
mspreitz | o/ | 16:03 |
diga_ | diga | 16:03 |
nshaikh | o/ Navid | 16:03 |
mtesauro | o/ | 16:03 |
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adrian_otto | I am going to add one item to the agenda before we begin | 16:03 |
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adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2014-09-30_1600_UTC Our Updated Agenda | 16:05 |
nshaikh | okay | 16:06 |
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adrian_otto | ok, welcome everyone | 16:06 |
adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 16:06 |
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adrian_otto | any announcements from attendees? | 16:07 |
adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 16:07 |
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adrian_otto | adrian_otto to coordinate a follow-up about Gantt, to help the containers team understand its readiness plans, and how they may be applied in our work. | 16:07 |
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adrian_otto | Status: In Progress. ISC meeting planned for this week to discuss further. Time TBD | 16:07 |
diga_ | ok | 16:08 |
iqbalmohomed | is the discussion open? | 16:08 |
iqbalmohomed | on irc? | 16:08 |
mspreitz | ISC? | 16:08 |
adrian_otto | yes, we will discuss in the #openstack-containers channel | 16:08 |
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adrian_otto | IRC | 16:08 |
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iqbalmohomed | ok .. great .. I'll keep an eye on the mailing list | 16:08 |
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adrian_otto | update: Meeting time is set for 1600 UTC tomorrow in #openstack-containers | 16:09 |
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nshaikh | okay | 16:10 |
adrian_otto | channel is logged, so transcripts will be available if you are interested but can not attend, or will be otherwise offline | 16:10 |
adrian_otto | on, next topic | 16:10 |
adrian_otto | #topic Containers Service (Magnum) API | 16:10 |
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adrian_otto | diga_ has been working on some initial API code | 16:11 |
adrian_otto | and I have started to informally review it | 16:11 |
adrian_otto | https://github.com/digambar15/magnum | 16:11 |
diga_ | yep | 16:11 |
adrian_otto | I hope to get this into a dedicated project repo with Gerrit soon to aid in the review discussions | 16:11 |
diga_ | I'll try to complete db implementation part by end of this we | 16:11 |
diga_ | week | 16:11 |
adrian_otto | I will take that as a formal AI | 16:11 |
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nshaikh | diga_, how are we tracking the features? | 16:12 |
adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to follow up about the Magnum project repo, and revise the config review as needed | 16:12 |
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adrian_otto | nshaikh: We should probably use an LP project for that, using blueprints | 16:12 |
mspreitz | Have I missed something, or is there no actual model for containers there yet? | 16:12 |
diga_ | currently I am writting POST, GET, DELTE apis for containers | 16:13 |
adrian_otto | Slower: you expressed an interest in working on the API code | 16:13 |
adrian_otto | did you get a chance to connect with diga on that? | 16:13 |
nshaikh | diga_, okay | 16:13 |
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diga_ | yes | 16:13 |
diga_ | nshaikh | 16:13 |
adrian_otto | mspreitz: we are in an active design phase. The first step is to mock up the API using some disposable code, and iterate ont aht a bit | 16:14 |
diga_ | Slower, you can contact me on IRC, let discuss things there | 16:14 |
adrian_otto | so once we feel comfortable with it, we can flesh that out | 16:14 |
mspreitz | no criticism, just wanted to be sure I did not miss something | 16:14 |
adrian_otto | we do have the spec proposal | 16:14 |
diga_ | yes, adrian | 16:15 |
mspreitz | Is there an intention to include something like the pod concept from Google? | 16:15 |
adrian_otto | mspreitz: have you seen that? | 16:15 |
mspreitz | I guess not | 16:15 |
adrian_otto | I will get a link to that, one moment. | 16:15 |
adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/114044 Spec Proposal | 16:16 |
adrian_otto | mspreitz: the concept of pods is something that could be implemented in a higher order service. | 16:17 |
adrian_otto | if it makes sense to build it into Magnum, I think that's something we are willing to discuss. | 16:17 |
mspreitz | thanks for the pointer. Will study. | 16:17 |
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mspreitz | I think the pod concept gives you something critical: a way to wrap up into a self-contained bundle all the host-specific stuff that Docker API exposes. | 16:18 |
adrian_otto | ok, so everyone please look through the code that diga posted at https://github.com/digambar15/magnum and start to get our feedback in a discussion in #openstack-containers | 16:18 |
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diga_ | yes | 16:19 |
nshaikh | diga_, adrian_otto : Are we looking at consuming docker-py <https://github.com/docker/docker-py> or docker binary? | 16:20 |
iqbalmohomed | will do | 16:20 |
adrian_otto | mspreitz: agreed. What we have not yet talked about is how much to build into OpenStack, and how much we will rely on consumers of the API to implement aditional features | 16:20 |
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adrian_otto | I think we'll want to set some guidelines around that. | 16:20 |
mspreitz | my point is that a cloud API should not have users talking about host specific names and numbers | 16:21 |
adrian_otto | one approach would be to try and keep Magnum as lean as reasonably possible, and provide an extension mechanism, as we do with our other services, and allow some experimental innovation to happen in community projects | 16:21 |
mspreitz | IMO, a reasonable cloud API would not expose host ports, host filesystem paths, etc | 16:22 |
adrian_otto | mspreitz: the API that produces instances does need to allow that, but a higher level API that takes container images, may not need to offer that. | 16:22 |
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adrian_otto | we don't yet have a pluggable scheduler to leverage, hence our UTC 1600 meeting for tomorrow | 16:23 |
adrian_otto | and until we have that, we need to allow you to specify which host you want a container to start on | 16:23 |
mspreitz | If you want wiring between containers on a host, you need to either expose the host's wiring abilities or define a bundle concept | 16:23 |
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adrian_otto | that's likely to be unique to the tools/libraries in use | 16:24 |
mspreitz | which "that"? | 16:24 |
adrian_otto | we are aiming to make a solution that is agnostic, so that it's not only a Docker solution, but can work for OpenVZ, LXC, or potentially other container types with different tools. | 16:24 |
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mspreitz | What is the intersection of the wiring ability exposed to users? | 16:25 |
mspreitz | for the ones listed so far | 16:25 |
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adrian_otto | that's largely unspecified at this point. We have a concept of a nested set of containers, where a container has a parent. | 16:26 |
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adrian_otto | but in terms of expressing the linkage between them, we have not explored that yet in detail. | 16:26 |
mspreitz | And the Linux kernel allows an unprivileged container to subdivide itself? | 16:26 |
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adrian_otto | mspreitz: our understanding is that functionality is coming soon. | 16:26 |
mspreitz | Oh, that's interesting. | 16:27 |
adrian_otto | we are proceeding under the assumption that it will appear soon as a kernel feature. | 16:27 |
mspreitz | How soon? | 16:27 |
adrian_otto | I suppose that depends on who wants to submit patches for it | 16:27 |
mspreitz | Is anyone outside this group working on that? | 16:27 |
adrian_otto | and how quickly they work. Eric Windisch indicated to me that he saw patches for it already. | 16:27 |
adrian_otto | that's something that Docker wants really bad, and is high on their priority list | 16:28 |
adrian_otto | but I'm not part of the kernel community, so I can't speak authoritatively about that. | 16:28 |
adrian_otto | technically speaking, there is no reason we can't have nested unprivileged containers with relatively small changes in the kernel. | 16:29 |
adrian_otto | so I'm reluctant to plan around that | 16:29 |
mspreitz | Could we make do in the interim, using privileged parents? | 16:29 |
adrian_otto | yes, of course. | 16:29 |
mspreitz | I mean, just one level of subdivision | 16:29 |
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mspreitz | makes sense. thanks. | 16:29 |
adrian_otto | ok, so next up on the agenda is a new thing... | 16:30 |
adrian_otto | #topic Kolla | 16:30 |
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adrian_otto | #link https://www.mail-archive.com/openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org/msg36059.html Kolla Announcement | 16:30 |
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adrian_otto | A few people have been pinging me about this | 16:31 |
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adrian_otto | trying to assort where this fits, and if it overlaps with what we do | 16:31 |
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adrian_otto | my initial reaction is that our focus is different. It might make sense for us to explore opportunities for acting as an enabling technology for this project | 16:32 |
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adrian_otto | any thoughts on this? | 16:33 |
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mspreitz | I think separate.. | 16:33 |
mspreitz | OOO is trying to bootstrap | 16:33 |
mspreitz | adding requirements for more context is not a help | 16:33 |
mspreitz | our container service fits into a bigger context | 16:33 |
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mspreitz | requires a context | 16:34 |
adrian_otto | thanks mspreitz | 16:34 |
adrian_otto | any other thoughts on this topic? | 16:35 |
diga_ | Our agenda is different than their, so I think we should keep working on the containers project | 16:35 |
adrian_otto | agreed | 16:36 |
adrian_otto | ok, so my main goal here was to make you all aware of this work, and to identify possible synergy. | 16:36 |
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adrian_otto | we can revisit it again next week once we have all had some time to process it. | 16:37 |
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adrian_otto | that brings us to my favorite part of our team meetings... | 16:37 |
adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 16:37 |
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adrian_otto | ok, seems like we might be ready to wrap up for today | 16:39 |
mspreitz | Is there any way to review service spec before it is in Gerrit? | 16:39 |
mspreitz | I mean, a way to share comments? | 16:39 |
mspreitz | I mean, the API not the spec | 16:39 |
adrian_otto | sure, you can discuss it with us in #openstack-containers | 16:39 |
mspreitz | thanks | 16:40 |
adrian_otto | anyone who arrived after Roll Call who would like to be recorded in attendance may chime in now | 16:40 |
adrian_otto | thanks everyone for attending. Our next meeting will be at UTC 2200 on Tuesday 2014-10-07. | 16:41 |
adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 16:41 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 30 16:41:53 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:41 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2014/containers.2014-09-30-16.02.html | 16:41 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2014/containers.2014-09-30-16.02.txt | 16:41 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2014/containers.2014-09-30-16.02.log.html | 16:41 |
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ruhe | #startmeeting murano | 17:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 30 17:01:18 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ruhe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:01 |
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sergmelikyan | o/ | 17:01 |
ruhe | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda#Agenda | 17:01 |
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ruhe | kate is still on vacation | 17:02 |
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stan_lagun | o/ | 17:02 |
ruhe | sjmc7 seems to be offline | 17:02 |
ruhe | ok. let's have a brief meeting today | 17:03 |
ruhe | there were no action items from previous meetings | 17:03 |
ruhe | so, skipping topic "action items review" | 17:03 |
ruhe | #topic status of juno-1 | 17:04 |
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ruhe | we've merged all the bug fixes we wanted to land in rc1 | 17:04 |
ruhe | I've asked SergeyLukjanov to help me with the release of RC1 since it's a complicated task. He'll release Murano during the day (in US time zone) | 17:05 |
SergeyLukjanov | ruhe, ack | 17:05 |
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ruhe | once RC1, we'll open master for work in Kilo | 17:05 |
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ruhe | *once RC1 is released | 17:05 |
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ruhe | remaining patches for Juno (critical bug fixes and documentation changes) will land in master and proposed/juno | 17:06 |
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ruhe | proposed/juno will become stable/juno with release of juno | 17:07 |
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dteselkin | Hi | 17:07 |
ruhe | dteselkin: hi :) | 17:07 |
ruhe | any questions about release procedure? | 17:07 |
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ruhe | ok. moving on | 17:09 |
ruhe | #topic documentation for juno release | 17:09 |
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ruhe | we have only two weeks to improve our developer documentation | 17:09 |
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ruhe | while user docs can be improved later since murano-docs doesn't follow (yet) standard release schedule | 17:10 |
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ruhe | that's it about docs | 17:11 |
ruhe | #topic open discussion | 17:11 |
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ruhe | #info ruhe will be on vacation on Oct1-Oct6 | 17:11 |
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ruhe | sergmelikyan: i hope you and sjmc7 will be able to arrange a meeting (with other folks included) to discuss future plans for Kilo | 17:13 |
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sergmelikyan | ruhe, sure | 17:14 |
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ruhe | we need to have base understanding of our unified plan before we meet in Paris | 17:16 |
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ruhe | waiting 3 minutes to end the meeting | 17:24 |
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ruhe | #endmeeting | 17:33 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 30 17:33:52 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:33 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2014/murano.2014-09-30-17.01.html | 17:33 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2014/murano.2014-09-30-17.01.txt | 17:33 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2014/murano.2014-09-30-17.01.log.html | 17:33 |
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adrian_otto | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 22:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 30 22:01:13 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 22:01 |
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adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum Our Agenda | 22:01 |
adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 22:01 |
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datsun180b | Ed Cranford | 22:01 |
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adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 22:01 |
muralia | murali allada | 22:01 |
Roshan | Roshan Agrawal | 22:01 |
james_li | james li | 22:01 |
ravips | Ravi Sankar Penta | 22:02 |
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devkulkarni | Devdatta Kulkarni | 22:02 |
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adrian_otto | hi everyone | 22:02 |
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adrian_otto | I'll give us another minute or so for Roll Call before beginning announcements. If you have an announcement for the team be ready, your queue is coming soon. | 22:03 |
adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 22:04 |
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adrian_otto | 1) Core Reviewers | 22:04 |
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adrian_otto | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/047493.html Motion for Core Reviewer changes | 22:04 |
gpilz | Gilbert Pilz | 22:04 |
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adrian_otto | cores, please find and vote on that. | 22:04 |
PaulCzar | o/ | 22:04 |
dimtruck | Dimitry Ushakov | 22:04 |
adrian_otto | ok, any other announcements from team members? | 22:05 |
adrian_otto | I skipped one | 22:05 |
adrian_otto | 2) F20 Gate | 22:05 |
adrian_otto | Our F20 gate is now non-voting. Thanks PaulCzar for submitting that change. | 22:06 |
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adrian_otto | (pausing for a minute for team member announcements) | 22:06 |
devkulkarni | thanks Paul | 22:06 |
ravips | I found the issue why barbican failed on F20 | 22:06 |
adrian_otto | ravips: oh? | 22:06 |
ravips | long story short we need to fix barbican api config param host_href to point to 10.0.2.15:9311, I will submit a patch | 22:06 |
ravips | also we got heads up from barbican team | 22:07 |
ravips | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124889/1 will again break some of our test cases | 22:07 |
adrian_otto | ok, how will we resolve that? | 22:07 |
ravips | so if there is a test failure involving barbican/private-repo, we know where to look for | 22:07 |
ravips | before starting solum, we need to fix barbican-api.conf and restart barbican if it is already running | 22:08 |
ravips | i couldn't think of any better solution | 22:08 |
adrian_otto | should we proactively create a bug ticket in anticipation of that trouble? | 22:08 |
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muralia | I have something related to this barbican issue in the works. It's not a fix for this issue but let me explain. | 22:09 |
PaulCzar | ravips: shouldn't we push barbican to have the correct conf by default rather than us fixing it post-install ? | 22:09 |
adrian_otto | that way we can have a place to record our plans to address it so it should lubricate that effort | 22:09 |
gpilz | +1 | 22:09 |
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muralia | This might be a good time for me to bring up a patch I'm working on. | 22:10 |
ravips | PaulCzar: it's not barbican issue, its the config param, default host_href=http://localhost: 9311 and we need that to be http://10.0.2.15:9311 | 22:10 |
adrian_otto | we are still in announcements | 22:10 |
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muralia | Within Rackspace, we are running an instance of solum which does not use barbican. | 22:10 |
adrian_otto | muralia: one moment please | 22:11 |
muralia | ok | 22:11 |
adrian_otto | ravips: wiould you be willing to accepta n action item to open a bug ticket for this issue, and help us get it assigned to a Stacker who can drive it to resolution? | 22:11 |
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adrian_otto | maybe that's you, me, or someone else | 22:12 |
ravips | sure, we already have a bug for this one | 22:12 |
adrian_otto | for the upcoming patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124889/1? | 22:12 |
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ravips | not for that one, I will create a new one | 22:12 |
adrian_otto | ok, if we make an action for it? | 22:13 |
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ravips | sure, we can prepare a patch before hand | 22:13 |
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adrian_otto | #action ravips to file a bug ticket for resolving anticipated compatibility problem with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124889/1 when it merges. | 22:13 |
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adrian_otto | thanks ravips | 22:14 |
adrian_otto | muralia: I will come back to you in just a moment. | 22:14 |
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muralia | sure | 22:14 |
adrian_otto | any other announcements? | 22:14 |
adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 22:15 |
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adrian_otto | adrian_otto to investigate using alternatives to openstack/common in Solum, and report back to the team with options. | 22:15 |
adrian_otto | Status: In progress. | 22:15 |
adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to investigate using alternatives to openstack/common in Solum, and report back to the team with options. | 22:15 |
adrian_otto | to carry it to next week for the report | 22:15 |
adrian_otto | we can also cover this in Open Discussion later | 22:15 |
adrian_otto | adrian_otto to email a link to a Paris Summit topics etherpad to the ML | 22:15 |
adrian_otto | I did not email it, but I did create it: | 22:16 |
adrian_otto | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/solum-paris-summit List of DIscussion Topics for Paris Design Summit | 22:16 |
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adrian_otto | please make note, and add your topics for consideration | 22:16 |
adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint/Task Review | 22:16 |
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adrian_otto | strategy to sync up openstack/common in solum with upstream (devkulkarni) | 22:17 |
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adrian_otto | I owe you a list of options here | 22:17 |
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devkulkarni | this is the action item that we discussed above.. | 22:17 |
adrian_otto | unless anyone else has been driving this in parallel | 22:17 |
devkulkarni | I chatted with Noorul about this | 22:17 |
devkulkarni | it was on the patch that replaced tests with oslotest. | 22:17 |
devkulkarni | it was recently merged | 22:18 |
devkulkarni | the option that we are following currently seems the best option.. | 22:18 |
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devkulkarni | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120255/ | 22:18 |
adrian_otto | ok, so should we close this action item? | 22:18 |
devkulkarni | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120255/ | 22:18 |
adrian_otto | it does not require further discussion next week? | 22:19 |
devkulkarni | take a look at the discussion therein.. that will inform whether we want to discuss it next week | 22:19 |
adrian_otto | ok, thanks | 22:19 |
devkulkarni | if that looks okay then we can close it | 22:19 |
adrian_otto | muralia: please proceed. You have the floor. | 22:19 |
adrian_otto | (Re: Barbican) | 22:19 |
muralia | yes, im working on a patch related to the barbican service. | 22:19 |
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muralia | the patch allows operators to choose not to run barbican for storing keys | 22:20 |
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muralia | and just store them on the local file system. | 22:20 |
adrian_otto | Secure by default, so this would need to be optional, and defaulting to off. | 22:21 |
muralia | this option is great for testing and to run internal previews without running an extra openstack service for solum | 22:21 |
adrian_otto | is that what you were planning? | 22:21 |
muralia | yes, secure by default | 22:21 |
muralia | so, keep an eye out for that patch | 22:21 |
adrian_otto | ok, I'm fine with that. Any thoughts from other team members? | 22:21 |
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ravips | yep, good option for testing | 22:22 |
PaulCzar | adrian_otto: I would almost suggest we use non-barbican by default | 22:22 |
PaulCzar | for tests | 22:22 |
datsun180b | more options is nice | 22:22 |
PaulCzar | and for devstack | 22:22 |
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adrian_otto | PaulCzar: please explain your rationale | 22:23 |
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PaulCzar | adrian_otto: barbican has already made breaking changes on us once, and have plans for another | 22:23 |
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PaulCzar | so if we switch off while instability continues then we don't break our gating | 22:23 |
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PaulCzar | devstack is not designed to be secure | 22:24 |
PaulCzar | so I think this is a reasonable path | 22:24 |
adrian_otto | ok, that's a sensible argument | 22:24 |
PaulCzar | also I don't think barbican is secure unless using a HSM | 22:24 |
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adrian_otto | it's more secure than saving unencrypted secrets in plaintext on a host's filesystem | 22:24 |
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adrian_otto | and it gives you a central point to audit if you have multiple Solum API nodes | 22:25 |
adrian_otto | it would simplify the changing of secrets in that case | 22:25 |
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PaulCzar | adrian_otto: that's true. if we want we could extend from storing in FS to a database table... but for basic functionality/devstack I think the FS is sufficient | 22:26 |
PaulCzar | adrian_otto: we should add 'test with barbican' to release process | 22:26 |
PaulCzar | to make sure that when we cut a release we know that the barbican stuff is working | 22:26 |
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adrian_otto | a nonvoting gate would also work for that | 22:27 |
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PaulCzar | adrian_otto: yeah something along those lines | 22:27 |
PaulCzar | anyways, lets wait until muralia's patch has landed and then have this conversation again | 22:27 |
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muralia | cool. I'll keep barbican as default | 22:28 |
adrian_otto | ok, sounds good. I'm willing to detect that we are running in devstack and use non-barbican in that case. | 22:28 |
adrian_otto | defaulting to using barbican otherwise, maybe? | 22:28 |
PaulCzar | barbican should be default in solum.conf. we can change that in the contrib/devstack to suit how we want to test | 22:28 |
PaulCzar | exactly :) | 22:28 |
adrian_otto | PaulCzar: yeah, that would strike a balance | 22:29 |
adrian_otto | cool. Any more thoughts on this topic? | 22:29 |
ravips | +1 | 22:29 |
PaulCzar | will also help with devstack size .. we're having to run 6gb VMs now for solum's devstack | 22:29 |
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PaulCzar | (memory) | 22:29 |
datsun180b | fyi that's line 231 of our Vagrantfile, "modify_vm --memory 6144" is about 6 gigs | 22:30 |
ravips | are we going to test barbican on non-voting gate? | 22:31 |
PaulCzar | ravips: once the alternative code is merged we'll figure out the specifics | 22:32 |
adrian_otto | I'd like to plan that, as I see this as an important long term capability that deserves ongoing test coverage, not just at release events. | 22:32 |
ravips | non-voting gate will help to fix the issues sooner instead of waiting till the end of the release | 22:33 |
adrian_otto | but I agree that as sands shift below us, we should be positioned to proceed by disabling those features. | 22:33 |
PaulCzar | +1 | 22:33 |
adrian_otto | ok, so I'm happy to pick this back up later as suggested. | 22:33 |
adrian_otto | #topic Open DIscussion | 22:33 |
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PaulCzar | I have to leave unless anybody has something specific they want to talk to me about | 22:34 |
ravips | just to avoid any duplicate effort, I wanna let the team know that | 22:35 |
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ravips | I took the initial stab at porting some of our shell code to python, mostly code around app clone/build/develop | 22:35 |
devkulkarni | +10 ravips | 22:35 |
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datsun180b | last i check julien held the conch on that | 22:35 |
PaulCzar | ravips: awesome! | 22:35 |
ravips | this is my plan: http://paste.openstack.org/show/117285/ , feedback helps | 22:35 |
adrian_otto | I would like to wrap up early as well | 22:35 |
gpilz | one thing on the OpenStack Summit | 22:36 |
datsun180b | there's a bug about it, i'm digging | 22:36 |
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gpilz | is there any discount for contributors? | 22:36 |
gpilz | I thought I remembered hearing something about that once | 22:36 |
gpilz | but I think I remember a lot of stuff | 22:36 |
PaulCzar | gpilz: yeah, ATCs are free ( on early bird price ) | 22:36 |
adrian_otto | gpilz: yes, ATC's get free admission | 22:36 |
devkulkarni | ravips: Patch 3 may not be possible | 22:36 |
adrian_otto | but you need to land a patch in openstack in the release | 22:36 |
roshanagr | OpenStack Paris: who among us will be there? | 22:36 |
gpilz | I will be there | 22:37 |
adrian_otto | so chances are that you don't have one of those yet. | 22:37 |
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roshanagr | gpilz: great. I will be there as well | 22:37 |
adrian_otto | I expect julienvey and stannie. | 22:37 |
adrian_otto | as they are locals. | 22:37 |
PaulCzar | ravips: looks pretty good to me. with docker we can use the api over http rather than the socket ... that removes requirement to run as root. | 22:38 |
roshanagr | nice, yes of course | 22:38 |
ravips | devkulkarni: docker-py is not stable or can't run sudo command? or any other particular reason? | 22:38 |
devkulkarni | there was an issue with it getting adding to global requirements | 22:38 |
devkulkarni | datsun180b did you find the bug | 22:38 |
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datsun180b | looking | 22:38 |
devkulkarni | I think that has the details | 22:38 |
devkulkarni | but otherwise this is great ravips | 22:39 |
datsun180b | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1302552 | 22:39 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1302552 in solum "Tech Debt: Convert bash scripts in contrib into python code and add tests" [Medium,Triaged] | 22:39 |
PaulCzar | heat gives us precedence to add in via contrib - https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/contrib/heat_docker/requirements.txt | 22:39 |
ravips | datsun180b: thanks, I will take a look | 22:39 |
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devkulkarni | PaulCzar: good. we can follow that lead then. | 22:39 |
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adrian_otto | ok, you all happy to wrap up now? | 22:41 |
PaulCzar | +2 | 22:41 |
devkulkarni | sure | 22:41 |
ravips | yes | 22:41 |
muralia | yes | 22:41 |
gpilz | +1 | 22:41 |
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adrian_otto | Thanks everyone for attending today. Our next meeting is UTC 2200 on Tuesday 2014-10-14 | 22:42 |
adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 22:42 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 30 22:42:29 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:42 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-09-30-22.01.html | 22:42 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-09-30-22.01.txt | 22:42 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-09-30-22.01.log.html | 22:42 |
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