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| serg_melikyan | #startmeeting murano | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 24 17:00:15 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is serg_melikyan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:00 |
| serg_melikyan | Hi folks! o/ | 17:00 |
| slagun | o/ | 17:00 |
| RadekPospisil | hi | 17:00 |
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| serg_melikyan | Hi RadekPospisil \o/ | 17:01 |
| aderyugin | hi | 17:01 |
| katyafervent | hi | 17:02 |
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| freerunner | o/ | 17:02 |
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| serg_melikyan | Agenda for todays meeting may be found here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda | 17:02 |
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| serg_melikyan | #topic Action Items Review | 17:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action Items Review (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:05 | |
| serg_melikyan | We have only one AI for today | 17:05 |
| serg_melikyan | #sergmelikyan, send e-mail describing roadmap planning procedure | 17:05 |
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| serg_melikyan | And I shamelessly failed this AI :( I will send e-mail tomorrow, we need to start planning for the next cycle | 17:05 |
| serg_melikyan | #action sergmelikyan, send e-mail describing roadmap planning procedure | 17:05 |
| serg_melikyan | RadekPospisil: do you guys had a chance to start thinking about next steps in Policy Guided Fullfilment? | 17:06 |
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| serg_melikyan | #topic Bug-Scrub Day | 17:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bug-Scrub Day (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:09 | |
| serg_melikyan | Folks, I propose to have bug-scrub day at this Friday | 17:09 |
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| serg_melikyan | #startvote Should we have bug-scrub day on this Friday? Yes, No, Other | 17:10 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Should we have bug-scrub day on this Friday? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Other. | 17:10 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 17:10 |
| katyafervent | serg_melikyan, sounds good to me. At what time | 17:10 |
| katyafervent | Yes | 17:10 |
| serg_melikyan | #vote Yes | 17:10 |
| katyafervent | #vote Yes | 17:10 |
| freerunner | #vote Yes | 17:10 |
| aderyugin | #vote Yes | 17:11 |
| kzaitsev_ | #vote Yes | 17:11 |
| RadekPospisil | #vote Yes | 17:11 |
| serg_melikyan | katyafervent: it is 24h event to span across the globe | 17:11 |
| katyafervent | so out #murano channel will be the main place to communicate, right? | 17:11 |
| katyafervent | *our | 17:11 |
| henar | #vote Yes. Can you provide more information about it? | 17:11 |
| RadekPospisil | what's the rules for bug-scrub day ? | 17:11 |
| openstack | henar: Yes. Can you provide more information about it? is not a valid option. Valid options are Yes, No, Other. | 17:11 |
| serg_melikyan | correct | 17:11 |
| henar | #vote Yes | 17:12 |
| henar | can you provide more information about it? | 17:12 |
| serg_melikyan | Core-reviewers are going through bugs and clean them up from invalids and so on, and assign to the next milestone (kilo-rc1), then anyone can ask to assign particular bug to him | 17:13 |
| slagun | #vote yes | 17:13 |
| serg_melikyan | And whole team is focused on fixing bugs, and helping in fixing bugs to each other. Whole day is about bugs | 17:13 |
| serg_melikyan | #endvote | 17:14 |
| openstack | Voted on "Should we have bug-scrub day on this Friday?" Results are | 17:14 |
| openstack | Yes (8): kzaitsev_, katyafervent, henar, serg_melikyan, slagun, freerunner, RadekPospisil, aderyugin | 17:14 |
| RadekPospisil | I assume that bug reportes have to be online to help core reviewers providing more data about defects? | 17:14 |
| serg_melikyan | Yes, https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano | 17:15 |
| kzaitsev_ | Should we actively search for more bugs before Friday? =) | 17:15 |
| serg_melikyan | Aaa you mean reportees | 17:15 |
| serg_melikyan | yeah, it would be helpful | 17:15 |
| RadekPospisil | ok | 17:15 |
| serg_melikyan | kzaitsev_: we should do it each day before release :D | 17:15 |
| RadekPospisil | the irc room is #murano ? | 17:16 |
| serg_melikyan | RadekPospisil: Yes | 17:16 |
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| serg_melikyan | We have pretty big list of bugs, and pretty short review queue - we did great job reviewing changes. Now we can focus on QA part, and finishing feature in FFE | 17:18 |
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| serg_melikyan | I propose to move to the next topic, any other questions about Bug-Scrub Day? I will announce it tomorrow | 17:19 |
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| serg_melikyan | #topic Feature Freeze Exception | 17:20 |
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| serg_melikyan | Let's discuss status of each feature that is marked as FFE | 17:20 |
| serg_melikyan | We have three features: | 17:20 |
| serg_melikyan | 1. Support for configuration languages (puppet, chef) | 17:20 |
| serg_melikyan | henar: can you update status about this feature? | 17:21 |
| henar | we are in the process of revision and working towards comments | 17:21 |
| henar | the functionality is done. I am working towards comments | 17:22 |
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| henar | and also I should add some QA tests (end-to-end test) fro puppet and chef | 17:22 |
| serg_melikyan | henar: excellent, thank you | 17:23 |
| serg_melikyan | 2. Migrate to YAQL | 17:23 |
| freerunner | henar: Henar, please, add me to reviewers of your commits. I'll help u with it. | 17:23 |
| serg_melikyan | slagun: | 17:23 |
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| henar | thanks | 17:24 |
| serg_melikyan | slagun: can you update us about this feature | 17:24 |
| serg_melikyan | ? | 17:24 |
| * serg_melikyan is sloppy today | 17:24 | |
| kzaitsev_ | freerunner, You should say your name in gerrit, cause it differs from freerunner =) | 17:24 |
| slagun | slagun: haven't done anything on this feature since last meeting but I hope it will be finished by the next one | 17:24 |
| slagun | serg_melikyan: ^^^ | 17:25 |
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| freerunner | henar: My gerrit name is vryzhenkin. So, u can also add me by e-mail: vryzhenkin@mirantis.com | 17:27 |
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| henar | ok | 17:28 |
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| serg_melikyan | 3. Murano Versioning | 17:29 |
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| serg_melikyan | slagun: I think this BP is also on you? | 17:30 |
| slagun | serg_melikyan: sure. After YAQL | 17:30 |
| serg_melikyan | :( | 17:33 |
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| serg_melikyan | Looks like we are pretty behind with versioning :( | 17:34 |
| serg_melikyan | #topic Open Discussion | 17:34 |
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| serg_melikyan | Any particular topic to discuss for today? | 17:35 |
| serg_melikyan | I have a few good news to share: | 17:36 |
| kzaitsev_ | how's our proposal to governance going? =) | 17:36 |
| serg_melikyan | Exact topic that I would like to share ) | 17:36 |
| serg_melikyan | 1) https://review.openstack.org/162745 moving steady :) We have 3 +1 already | 17:36 |
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| kzaitsev_ | Yay! =) | 17:37 |
| serg_melikyan | 2) https://launchpad.net/python-muranoclient - tomorrow we are going to release new python-muranoclient | 17:37 |
| serg_melikyan | We fixed number of bugs and many new features | 17:37 |
| serg_melikyan | kzaitsev_: I believe most of your repository blueprint will be released with this version, right? | 17:38 |
| kzaitsev_ | Correct. 90% of the functionality is inside the client | 17:39 |
| kzaitsev_ | other 10 is horizon UI | 17:39 |
| serg_melikyan | Cool :) | 17:40 |
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| serg_melikyan | freerunner: btw, I remembered valuable hint for you - you can add all murano repos to the watching list in the settings on review.openstack.org | 17:40 |
| serg_melikyan | After that you will be able to see every commit there on My -> Watched Changes page | 17:40 |
| serg_melikyan | It really saves time, and you can browse all submitted changes | 17:41 |
| serg_melikyan | No need to adding you to the reviewers specifically | 17:41 |
| freerunner | serg_melikyan: I'm think it will be useful. ;) Thanks. | 17:42 |
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| serg_melikyan | I think Canada was not so good choice to held OpenStack Summit :( | 17:44 |
| slagun | why& | 17:44 |
| slagun | ? | 17:45 |
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| * serg_melikyan was notified that he will receive his visa after 1.5 month after application | 17:45 | |
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| serg_melikyan | It's crazy, many people not sure that they will attend OpenStack Summit almost until the last weeks before the Summit. | 17:46 |
| serg_melikyan | But I am not sure about visa rules in Canada regarding other countries | 17:46 |
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| serg_melikyan | RadekPospisil: Do you need visa to attend Summit? | 17:47 |
| slagun | I believe most of the people are from USA and Canada is relatively near for them | 17:47 |
| slagun | and they don't need visa | 17:47 |
| RadekPospisil | AFAIK CZ is visa-free with Canada | 17:47 |
| serg_melikyan | RadekPospisil: I envy you guys :) I was filling my applications yesterday - it's really detailed, almost like I am moving to Canada instead of 5 days visit | 17:48 |
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| RadekPospisil | serg_melikyan: :-) | 17:48 |
| serg_melikyan | They even requested my marriage certificate (my wife is not going with me though) :D | 17:49 |
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| serg_melikyan | Thank you, folks! | 17:59 |
| serg_melikyan | #endmeeting | 17:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 24 17:59:51 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-03-24-17.00.html | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-03-24-17.00.txt | 17:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-03-24-17.00.log.html | 17:59 |
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| slagle | #startmeeting tripleo | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 24 19:01:20 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slagle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 19:01 |
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| slagle | hi everyone, anyone around? | 19:01 |
| bnemec | o/ | 19:01 |
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| bnemec | This might be a quick meeting. :-) | 19:03 |
| slagle | yea i don't need to talk to just you | 19:03 |
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| slagle | :) | 19:03 |
| bnemec | lol | 19:04 |
| bnemec | action: Fix all the CI's | 19:04 |
| bnemec | /meeting | 19:04 |
| slagle | dprince: so, i think we're pretty sparse on meeting attendees | 19:05 |
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| jistr | o/ | 19:05 |
| slagle | dprince: we'll probably skip the structured agenda | 19:05 |
| slagle | dprince: is there any update you want to give on CI? | 19:05 |
| dprince | slagle: sure | 19:06 |
| dprince | slagle: we had some sort of loop on our network. We've identified a compute host that looks to be the problem and we are trying to bring things back online | 19:07 |
| slagle | ok; thanks | 19:07 |
| dprince | slagle: we haven't yet brought all the controller services back online yet so that nodepool can hit us again | 19:07 |
| * SpamapS is sort of here | 19:08 | |
| * SpamapS watching the other meeting more closely | 19:08 | |
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| slagle | anything else anyone wants to bring up? | 19:11 |
| bnemec | Don't think so | 19:12 |
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| * jistr neither | 19:12 | |
| slagle | k, thanks | 19:12 |
| slagle | i might send out a meeting reminder in advance next time :) | 19:13 |
| slagle | or poll folks if they still think we need to meet every week, maybe we should just move it to every other week | 19:13 |
| slagle | anyway, i think that's a wrap for today | 19:13 |
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| slagle | #endmeeting | 19:13 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 24 19:13:52 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:13 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2015/tripleo.2015-03-24-19.01.html | 19:13 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2015/tripleo.2015-03-24-19.01.txt | 19:13 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2015/tripleo.2015-03-24-19.01.log.html | 19:13 |
| bnemec | I think that's kind of already happened since the alternate meeting time didn't happen afaik | 19:14 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 24 21:01:00 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 21:01 |
| adrian_otto | #topic https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2015-03-24_2100_UTC Our Agenda | 21:01 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 21:01 |
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| gpilz | Gilbert Pilz | 21:01 |
| datsun180b | ed cranford | 21:01 |
| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 21:01 |
| muralia2 | murali allada | 21:01 |
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| james_li | james li | 21:01 |
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| devkulkarni | devdatta | 21:01 |
| mkam | Melissa Kam | 21:02 |
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| adrian_otto | hi gpilz, datsun180b, muralia2, james_li, devdatta, mkam | 21:03 |
| muralia2 | hi adrian | 21:03 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 21:03 |
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| adrian_otto | 1) The Solum speaking session was not chosen for the OpenStack Summit in Vancouver…. | 21:04 |
| dimtruck | Dimitry Ushakov | 21:04 |
| gpilz | shoot | 21:04 |
| adrian_otto | however, I do expect there is still a place for Solum at the Design Summit in the OpenSource at OpenStack track or "Other Projects" track. | 21:04 |
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| adrian_otto | 2) PTL Elections | 21:06 |
| adrian_otto | community projects are not required to hold PTL elections, but we do anyway. | 21:06 |
| adrian_otto | in the past we have tried not to conflict with open elections for OpenStack projects, as there has been suggestions that having dozens of concurrent unrelated elections is confusing for the electorate | 21:07 |
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| adrian_otto | typically the PTL is selected by the contributors in the prior two releases. | 21:07 |
| adrian_otto | how would you all feel about having a call for candidacy that is sent to all of the contributors by direct email instead of using the openstack-dev wiki? | 21:08 |
| datsun180b | That sounds fine to me | 21:08 |
| devkulkarni | you mean openstack-dev mailing list? sounds fine | 21:09 |
| adrian_otto | in the event that there is > 1 candidate, an election would be held. | 21:09 |
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| adrian_otto | we would have an agenda item in our next team meeting where candidacy could be announced by any challenger. | 21:10 |
| adrian_otto | thoughts on this approach, versus an exact repeat of what we did in the last release cycle? | 21:10 |
| adrian_otto | note that you can only run for the PTL position if you have contributed code to the prior release | 21:10 |
| adrian_otto | I think we have something like 19 qualified individuals | 21:10 |
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| adrian_otto | devkulkarni: no | 21:10 |
| adrian_otto | the specific request was that we not use openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org to request candidacy notices | 21:11 |
| devkulkarni | I think no harm in trying this approach | 21:11 |
| muralia2 | ok | 21:11 |
| adrian_otto | but instead send out direct email (by BCC) to individuals who have contributed | 21:11 |
| gpilz | ok by me | 21:11 |
| devkulkarni | right.. I just meant that in your earlier comment you had said openstack-dev wiki | 21:11 |
| adrian_otto | oh, yes | 21:11 |
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| adrian_otto | the "wiki" meant that we would record the plan on our wiki on an election subpage | 21:11 |
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| adrian_otto | for posterity | 21:11 |
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| devkulkarni | ah, got it | 21:12 |
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| adrian_otto | the aim here is to balance the interests of open community and transparency with the sensitivities of running the OpenStack elections | 21:12 |
| devkulkarni | on a similar note — there have been emails on the dev list about not using it to announce core reviewer additions as well | 21:13 |
| adrian_otto | I will record this as an #agreed if there are no objections | 21:13 |
| devkulkarni | +1 | 21:13 |
| muralia2 | +1 | 21:13 |
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| gpilz | +1 | 21:13 |
| adrian_otto | devkulkarni: no, core reviewer proposals may still use the list | 21:13 |
| james_li | +1 | 21:13 |
| adrian_otto | this is about selection of project PTLs | 21:13 |
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| datsun180b | +1 | 21:13 |
| devkulkarni | right.. I am just saying that I have recently seen emails where folks have argued against using the dev mailing list to announce reviewer additions. | 21:14 |
| adrian_otto | yes, there is an alternate idea about that | 21:14 |
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| devkulkarni | in fact, I haven't seen emails that say that PTL candidacy emails should not be sent to the dev list.. may be I missed those. | 21:14 |
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| adrian_otto | basically to have a governance file in the code repo | 21:14 |
| adrian_otto | and you vote in Gerrit | 21:14 |
| devkulkarni | I see | 21:14 |
| adrian_otto | there has also been talk about having a stackforge elections repo, but that is some time out | 21:15 |
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| adrian_otto | #agreed the solum PTL shall be selected by the project contributors. Contributors will be invited to announce candidacy at the 2015-03-31 team meeting. If no new candidates are announced during that section of the team meeting IRC agenda, the incumbent PTL will remain in service. | 21:16 |
| adrian_otto | I can still undo that if there are any objections | 21:16 |
| adrian_otto | ok, any other announcements from team members this week? | 21:17 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 21:17 |
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| adrian_otto | (none) | 21:17 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint/Task Review | 21:17 |
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| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: quick question.. do you have a link to the accepted talks for ODS? | 21:17 |
| adrian_otto | yes. one moment | 21:18 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://openstacksummitmay2015vancouver.sched.org/ OpenStack Summit Agenda | 21:18 |
| devkulkarni | thanks adrian_otto | 21:19 |
| adrian_otto | devkulkarni: is that what you meant? | 21:19 |
| devkulkarni | yep | 21:19 |
| adrian_otto | ok, great. | 21:19 |
| adrian_otto | 1) (silkey) Pin requests to 2.4.3 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165603/ | 21:19 |
| adrian_otto | is silkey present? | 21:19 |
| devkulkarni | no.. but I can talk to that task | 21:19 |
| adrian_otto | Nick Silkey made his first contribution to the OpenStack ecosystem in Solum | 21:20 |
| adrian_otto | Jenkins disliked the proposal | 21:20 |
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| adrian_otto | devkulkarni: you have the floor | 21:20 |
| devkulkarni | basically on the python-solumclient we are getting a SSL cert warning which can be prevented if we use | 21:20 |
| devkulkarni | the specific version of requests | 21:20 |
| devkulkarni | that is there in the review | 21:20 |
| devkulkarni | however, global-requirements does not yet have the 2.4.3 version | 21:21 |
| devkulkarni | we could use soft requirements probably | 21:21 |
| adrian_otto | could we use "requests>=2.4.3" instead? If not, why not? | 21:21 |
| datsun180b | I think in fact global's requests is ahead of 2.4.3, which is our problem | 21:21 |
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| datsun180b | After 2.4.3 a deprecation message for an SSL issue involving a missing value in a cert is shown with every use | 21:22 |
| adrian_otto | so 2.5.0 breaks us | 21:22 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b: what version is global's requests? | 21:23 |
| datsun180b | requests>=2.2.0,!=2.4.0 | 21:23 |
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| james_li | soft requirements is for devstack, not sure a devstack is spun up for solum CLIENT tests | 21:24 |
| datsun180b | and this isn't so much a problem for solum general as it is for rackspace but i could be wrong about that | 21:24 |
| dimtruck | in the name of transparency, let's point out that this is an issue solely with Rackspace's certificates. HP doesn't have this problem. | 21:24 |
| dimtruck | datsun180b: +1 | 21:24 |
| dimtruck | HP cloud* | 21:24 |
| dimtruck | since those are the two main cloud providers we use in upstream | 21:24 |
| adrian_otto | there has been some discussion about adjusting all of our certs | 21:24 |
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| adrian_otto | so this problem may vanish if we take no action | 21:25 |
| adrian_otto | are you all aware of this initiative? | 21:25 |
| dimtruck | yes sir...but it's dependent on Rackspace's cloud identity | 21:25 |
| dimtruck | there's no public timeline available | 21:25 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, so what I'm not sure about in this review is that all the gate tests are marked with SUCCESS, but Jenkins voted -1. I don't see why. | 21:26 |
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| datsun180b | strictly because that change to requests doesn't jive with global-reqs | 21:26 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: click on 'toggle ci' | 21:27 |
| devkulkarni | you will see the requirements don't match issue | 21:27 |
| adrian_otto | where is "toggle ci"? | 21:27 |
| devkulkarni | at the very bottom of the review page | 21:27 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165603/ | 21:27 |
| adrian_otto | oh, I found it, thanks!! | 21:27 |
| adrian_otto | #link http://logs.openstack.org/03/165603/2/check/gate-python-solumclient-requirements/6c8a53a/console.html#_2015-03-18_22_38_00_003 the gate objection | 21:29 |
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| adrian_otto | what options do we have to work around this? | 21:30 |
| devkulkarni | we checked with rackspace's cloud orchestration team.. they have similar issue, but they are ignoring it for now | 21:30 |
| adrian_otto | what is the community impact if we ignore this too? | 21:30 |
| adrian_otto | probably none, right? | 21:31 |
| devkulkarni | frankly, not much | 21:31 |
| datsun180b | epsilon squared | 21:31 |
| devkulkarni | yeah | 21:31 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, so I suggest we fix that in an internal patch for now if it's custome rimpacting | 21:31 |
| adrian_otto | and leave upstream alone | 21:31 |
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| adrian_otto | fair enough? | 21:32 |
| devkulkarni | sounds good to me | 21:32 |
| adrian_otto | any other viewpoints to consider? | 21:32 |
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| datsun180b | just need to close silkey's patch then, and explain why | 21:32 |
| adrian_otto | I will take care of that right now | 21:32 |
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| adrian_otto | while I do that, do team members have other work items to discuss today? | 21:33 |
| datsun180b | thank you kindly | 21:33 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: I have one | 21:33 |
| adrian_otto | proceed! | 21:33 |
| devkulkarni | I remember we had discussed sometime back about release of python-solumclient on a periodic cadence | 21:33 |
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| devkulkarni | what do you think about doing a release on a specific day each week — at your convenience | 21:34 |
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| adrian_otto | yeah, I'm open to that | 21:34 |
| devkulkarni | cool | 21:34 |
| adrian_otto | in fact I am willing to cut a release on demand any time you all want. | 21:35 |
| devkulkarni | that will be awesome as well.. whichever is the most convenient for you | 21:35 |
| adrian_otto | I should be able to act on those sort of requests on the same day. | 21:35 |
| datsun180b | is the process any more complicated than you tagging a release? | 21:35 |
| adrian_otto | it's really easy | 21:35 |
| adrian_otto | the only hard part is signing the release with GPG | 21:36 |
| datsun180b | is it so easy it's documented somewhere | 21:36 |
| adrian_otto | basides that it's a couple of git commands | 21:36 |
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| adrian_otto | git -t tag | 21:36 |
| adrian_otto | git push gerrit | 21:36 |
| devkulkarni | also, on that note, I remember you had also mentioned about making it such that the process is automated triggered on every merge | 21:36 |
| adrian_otto | that's it. | 21:36 |
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| adrian_otto | devkulkarni: I think that may be possibe | 21:36 |
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| adrian_otto | we can discuss to find the right effort/benefit ratio | 21:37 |
| devkulkarni | cool.. but probably we could do that later.. | 21:37 |
| devkulkarni | right | 21:37 |
| adrian_otto | if I'm not fast enough doing it by request, then we should see about an automation approach | 21:37 |
| datsun180b | would you need to deputize someone else with a permission you have that we lack? | 21:38 |
| devkulkarni | :) sounds good. | 21:38 |
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| datsun180b | and, should it happen, would those permissions transfer to any future PTL, or would you still be the one to cut those releases? | 21:38 |
| datsun180b | all i'm trying to do is reduce the number of "adrian plz cut a release kthx" emails in the future | 21:39 |
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| adrian_otto | the individual with the PTL role can tag releases | 21:39 |
| adrian_otto | the only gotcha is that that individual is required to GPG sign the commit | 21:39 |
| adrian_otto | it may also be possible to have multiple individuals to whom that access level is delegated. | 21:40 |
| adrian_otto | we could explore that option as well | 21:41 |
| devkulkarni | +1 to datsun180b.. +1 to adrian_otto | 21:41 |
| adrian_otto | so ping me on IRC, and if no answer then email me. You all have my phone number too, you can SMS. | 21:41 |
| adrian_otto | the only time I don't answer an SMS is if I'm in flight. | 21:41 |
| datsun180b | i foresee a couple situations where you might be called upon more than once a day, just trying to test the structure before we have to put any real weight on it | 21:42 |
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| adrian_otto | that's fine with me | 21:42 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: the last four digits — are they 5417 or 6417 | 21:42 |
| adrian_otto | honestly, this process takes just a couple of minutes | 21:42 |
| adrian_otto | devkulkarni: actually neither. I will PRIVMSG it to you. | 21:43 |
| devkulkarni | ok.. sounds good | 21:43 |
| devkulkarni | thanks adrian_otto | 21:44 |
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| adrian_otto | ok | 21:46 |
| adrian_otto | #topic OpenDiscussion | 21:46 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 21:47 |
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| datsun180b | so take a look at this: http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ and filter for solum | 21:47 |
| devkulkarni | oh right!! F20 gate | 21:47 |
| devkulkarni | james_li: want to take this one? | 21:48 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so I might also mention that Magnum was approved to join the OpenStack project list about an hour ago by unanimous vote of the TC. This might be a good time for Solum to think about any future plans for Magnum integration. | 21:48 |
| datsun180b | 59 hours, 32 hours, 22 hours, 2 and a half hours | 21:48 |
| james_li | just talked with infra guys | 21:48 |
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| james_li | the F20 node won't boot | 21:48 |
| james_li | again | 21:48 |
| datsun180b | any longer and our tasks are going to have to be portrayed by James Franco | 21:48 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: congratulations | 21:48 |
| adrian_otto | thanks devkulkarni | 21:48 |
| datsun180b | oh congratulations magnum | 21:48 |
| muralia2 | woohoo! congrats | 21:49 |
| james_li | so they suggested we switch to F21 or centos, the latter is better in their opinion | 21:49 |
| devkulkarni | will be nice to start discussing where/how magnum can fit in with solum. | 21:49 |
| devkulkarni | james_li: oh is that so? | 21:49 |
| dimtruck | nice! | 21:49 |
| devkulkarni | so what are the next steps? | 21:49 |
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| adrian_otto | devkulkarni: for Magnum? | 21:50 |
| james_li | since we use F20 for some historical reasons and it is now non-voting | 21:50 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: could one of the magnum folks write a spec of possible integration points .. will it replace heat within solum? will it sit next to heat? | 21:50 |
| james_li | I would say switch to centos | 21:50 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: sorry.. I was asking for next steps to james_li | 21:50 |
| adrian_otto | james_li: +1 | 21:50 |
| gpilz | i'm finding the parallel discussion of Magnum and the f20 gate confusing | 21:51 |
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| adrian_otto | devkulkarni: there are multiple ways it might fit | 21:51 |
| adrian_otto | but let's revisit that later | 21:51 |
| adrian_otto | there is no hurry | 21:51 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: sure | 21:51 |
| devkulkarni | going back to f20 | 21:52 |
| devkulkarni | james_li: what is required to switch over to centos? | 21:52 |
| devkulkarni | could we disable f20 first quickly? | 21:52 |
| adrian_otto | I think that's in the project-config repo now | 21:53 |
| datsun180b | it might help to explain the why before we worry about the if and the how | 21:53 |
| devkulkarni | for centos gate — we will have to put in some efforts to see that everything works | 21:53 |
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| james_li | we need infra guys approval for any changes | 21:53 |
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| james_li | to gate | 21:53 |
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| devkulkarni | james_li: yes.. but from process point-of-view, what are the steps? 1) disable f20 2) test with centos 3) propose addition of centos | 21:54 |
| devkulkarni | ? | 21:54 |
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| james_li | for centos we definitely needs infra guys' help for amending the patch to change gate config, thats some additional work | 21:55 |
| james_li | for disabling F20 we can handle the patch by ourselves, just wait for their approval | 21:55 |
| devkulkarni | got it.. so could we make the decision right now to disable f20? what do others think? | 21:56 |
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| datsun180b | i _think_ it's just a matter of removing a line or two from infra's project-config | 21:56 |
| james_li | +1 for disabling F20 for now | 21:56 |
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| devkulkarni | datsun180b: yep.. the change should be straight forward. | 21:56 |
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| datsun180b | of course, testing that kind of change is super tough without feedback from the gate! | 21:56 |
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| devkulkarni | I am more concerned about we being a single flavor (Ubuntu) system in the time being | 21:56 |
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| james_li | later we can add a centos gate | 21:57 |
| datsun180b | devkulkarni: counterarguments: git and docker | 21:57 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/jenkins/jobs/solum.yaml Solum Gate Jobs | 21:57 |
| devkulkarni | having said that — I do care about patches getting merged — so I am a +1 to turn off f20 | 21:57 |
| adrian_otto | I don't see the fedora job in there | 21:57 |
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| james_li | adrian_otto: gate-solum-devstack-dsvm-f20 | 21:58 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: line 49 | 21:58 |
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| adrian_otto | yep, that's what we need to patch | 21:58 |
| adrian_otto | ok, time to wrap up here | 21:58 |
| datsun180b | just removing that line? i'll pull the trigger on this review then | 21:58 |
| adrian_otto | you remove that job entry, yes | 21:59 |
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| datsun180b | oh this diff doesn't say anything near a line 49 | 21:59 |
| adrian_otto | Our nextmeeting is 2015-03-31 at 2100 UTC. See you all then! | 21:59 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 21:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 24 21:59:45 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-03-24-21.01.html | 21:59 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-03-24-21.01.txt | 21:59 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-03-24-21.01.log.html | 21:59 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 22:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 24 22:00:39 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 22:00 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2015-03-24_2200_UTC Our Agenda | 22:00 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 22:00 |
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| sdake__ | o/ | 22:01 |
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| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 22:01 |
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| diga | Digambar Patil | 22:01 |
| yuanying-alt | yuanying | 22:01 |
| thomasem | Thomas Maddox | 22:01 |
| hongbin | o/ | 22:01 |
| Tango|2 | o/ | 22:01 |
| apmelton | o/ | 22:01 |
| adrian_otto | hello sdake__ diga yuanying-alt thomasem hongbin Tango|2 apmelton | 22:02 |
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| diga | Hello adrian_otto | 22:02 |
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| adrian_otto | we will begin in just a moment. | 22:02 |
| madhuri_ | madhuri | 22:02 |
| adrian_otto | thanks diga for attending at this most inconvenient hour | 22:02 |
| thomasem | Please pardon my and apmelton's absence last week. We had our remote team at our main office and were pretty much booked all day Tuesday-Thursday. | 22:02 |
| adrian_otto | hi madhuri_ | 22:02 |
| sdake__ | meetings fun :) | 22:02 |
| diga | NP :) | 22:02 |
| adrian_otto | thomasem: welcome back. We have some great news | 22:02 |
| thomasem | What's that? :) | 22:03 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 22:03 |
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| adrian_otto | 1) Magnum has officially joined the OpenStack project list upon approval by a unanimous vote by the Technical Committee. | 22:03 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/161080 OpenStack Governance Update | 22:03 |
| daneyon_ | congrats!!! | 22:03 |
| apmelton | woot! | 22:03 |
| yuanying-alt | !! | 22:03 |
| openstack | yuanying-alt: Error: "!" is not a valid command. | 22:03 |
| yuanying-alt | great! | 22:03 |
| madhuri_ | Thats greate! | 22:03 |
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| adrian_otto | thanks to all of our diligent efforts, we have shown that we have what it takes to be a part of this community | 22:04 |
| thomasem | Grats! :D | 22:04 |
| adrian_otto | we still have a lot of ground to cover to get all the tags we will want | 22:04 |
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| adrian_otto | there is more good news | 22:05 |
| sdake__ | for those that dont know, tags are the new way operators will select projects to use | 22:05 |
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| apmelton | gotcha | 22:05 |
| adrian_otto | 2) Magnum has an approves Session at the OpenStack Summit in Vancouver | 22:05 |
| thomasem | Yeah, to help operators understand what works well together and all that, right? | 22:05 |
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| sdake__ | one example tag is "team_diversity" | 22:05 |
| thomasem | sweet, that's great to hear, adrian_otto | 22:05 |
| sdake__ | "6mo_release_cycle" | 22:05 |
| sdake__ | etc | 22:05 |
| adrian_otto | #link http://sched.co/2qdw https://openstacksummitmay2015vancouver.sched.org/event/ec3936678ef22681408088ec52a4e80b# | 22:06 |
| thomasem | sdake__: ohhhhhh gotcha | 22:06 |
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| sdake__ | we rock on team_diversity | 22:06 |
| diga | Congrats adrian_otto, sdake__ | 22:06 |
| adrian_otto | #undo | 22:06 |
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| adrian_otto | #link http://sched.co/2qdw Magnum - Containers-as-a-Service for OpenStack | 22:06 |
| adrian_otto | that's a bit better | 22:06 |
| madhuri_ | Page not found | 22:07 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so if you plan on attending in Vancouver, get there early. There will not be an open seat in the house. I can guarantee that based on attendance in Paris | 22:07 |
| adrian_otto | http://sched.co/2qdw does not work??? | 22:07 |
| sdake__ | it is at 9am, some people may be on a bender the night before and forget to show up ;) | 22:07 |
| adrian_otto | works for me, madhuri_ | 22:07 |
| madhuri_ | This one works | 22:08 |
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| adrian_otto | sdake__: we can only hope ;-) | 22:08 |
| apmelton | I had issues, but I think it's the https everywhere plugin mucking it up | 22:08 |
| adrian_otto | so I put both of those news items on our Wiki page | 22:08 |
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| adrian_otto | apmelton: what plugin? | 22:08 |
| apmelton | chrome's https everywhere | 22:09 |
| adrian_otto | that sounds draconian. | 22:09 |
| sdake__ | get the anestaphine in the medlocker plz | 22:09 |
| adrian_otto | especially considering how weak HTTPS is from a security perspective | 22:09 |
| adrian_otto | sometimes just as weak as HTTP | 22:09 |
| adrian_otto | I should not criticize the Internet. | 22:10 |
| thomasem | Sometimes even more-so given the illusion of security. :P | 22:10 |
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| apmelton | oh really? might just uninstall it then | 22:10 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 22:10 |
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| sdake__ | all your computers are belong to us | 22:10 |
| adrian_otto | (none) | 22:10 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint/Task Review | 22:11 |
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| adrian_otto | (1) Discussion of bay_type and cluster_type | 22:11 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/165346 Add cluster_type field in baymodel. | 22:11 |
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| adrian_otto | now, I can't speak for all of you, but it took me a good long time of thinking about this to get what I thought was clarity on the situation | 22:11 |
| adrian_otto | I did my best to express that in the comment stream of the link provided above. | 22:12 |
| adrian_otto | I'll pause for a moment to allow those of you to take a look | 22:12 |
| adrian_otto | let me know when you are done | 22:12 |
| diga | Here only concern remaining about bay_type | 22:12 |
| sdake__ | I dont care as long as it works for hte 3 layers of cases we have (platform, os, coe) | 22:12 |
| sdake__ | we can rely on glance image properties for distro name | 22:13 |
| adrian_otto | good, so setting aside the question about detecting the instance type (we will revisit this) | 22:13 |
| sdake__ | but I dont think we want to rely on the image name itself for the type of distro | 22:13 |
| diga | I think other things are already there - image_id: OS, flavor_id: platform | 22:13 |
| adrian_otto | how much alignment do we have on the rest? | 22:13 |
| sdake__ | well the patch adds the "os" layer | 22:14 |
| sdake__ | which we didn't have choices for previously | 22:14 |
| sdake__ | so it should probably be "os_type" | 22:14 |
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| sdake__ | or none at all as you suggest (and select from glance property) | 22:14 |
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| hongbin | I have mentioned in the comment about the Sahara solution for a similar problem | 22:15 |
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| sdake__ | which was? | 22:15 |
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| hongbin | They tag images with plugin, os, version ... | 22:15 |
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| apmelton | so, my only concern was relying on the user to provide those values, it will probably be a good idea to cache them in our database so we're not going out to glance/nova each time we need to do something with a bay | 22:15 |
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| hongbin | In Sahara, users don't specify image. They specify flavor and plugin instead | 22:16 |
| hongbin | And Sahara choose the image based on provided plugin | 22:16 |
| adrian_otto | what does it mean to specify a plugin in Sahara? Can you elaborate a bit? | 22:16 |
| sdake__ | apmelton sounds like a premature optimization | 22:16 |
| hongbin | plugin is Hadoop distr, like bay_type | 22:17 |
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| hongbin | In magnum, it could be kubernetes, swarm... | 22:17 |
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| diga | in sahara, they have seperate plugins for hadoop, spark etc | 22:17 |
| apmelton | sdake__: that's fair | 22:17 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so that's in line with what I'm proposing | 22:18 |
| adrian_otto | how about opposing points of view | 22:18 |
| sdake__ | apmelton openstack is a-ok with fat code - its written in python for example ;) | 22:18 |
| sdake__ | if it was supposed to be fast, itd be in c:) | 22:18 |
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| adrian_otto | sorry, had to get off my corporate VPN… network trouble there. | 22:19 |
| adrian_otto | what's the last thing that made it to the channel? | 22:19 |
| apmelton | I do suppose an image-show or a flavor-show should be relatively quick calls | 22:19 |
| sdake__ | I think there is a specific api for retrieving propertie sbut I am not certain | 22:19 |
| sdake__ | but if we use that, the patch has to change to not store os_type and instead retreive tehglance property | 22:20 |
| sdake__ | or it could store it after treiving it for the first time wfm too | 22:20 |
| adrian_otto | ping | 22:20 |
| hongbin | sdake__: agree | 22:20 |
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| sdake__ | hey adrian_otto | 22:20 |
| adrian_otto | oh, I see you again | 22:20 |
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| sdake__ | i htink for this cae a glance image property is the right answer | 22:21 |
| sdake__ | neighbor redoing roof | 22:22 |
| sdake__ | hammering about to drive me nutty! | 22:22 |
| apmelton | wonder how much of a pain it would be to get people behind a standard extra-spec for ironic/vm | 22:22 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so do we have any controversy to address on this topic of bay_type? | 22:22 |
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| apmelton | though, I was wondering what the actual differences were between our ironic and vm template | 22:23 |
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| diga | then sdake__ where do we tag bay_type, in glance only | 22:24 |
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| sdake__ | yuanying-alt could answer apmelton | 22:24 |
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| sdake__ | diga, just use an os tag in glance | 22:24 |
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| diga | ok | 22:24 |
| sdake__ | the quickstart needs to be updated to set the porperty | 22:24 |
| sdake__ | and devstack as well | 22:24 |
| apmelton | sdake__: diga: bay_type isn't coe, right? just os? | 22:24 |
| adrian_otto | bay_type belongs to Bay, but cluster_type can be auto-detected from glance. | 22:24 |
| sdake__ | right os | 22:24 |
| sdake__ | that is why bay_type is such a bad name :) | 22:24 |
| adrian_otto | ok | 22:25 |
| diga | yes :) | 22:25 |
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| sdake__ | at minimum it should be os_type | 22:25 |
| sdake__ | but it really belongs in glance | 22:25 |
| diga | Got it | 22:25 |
| yuanying-alt | apmelton: VM template doesn't work because of Neutron Port issue | 22:25 |
| yuanying-alt | for Ironic | 22:25 |
| apmelton | ahhhh gotcha | 22:25 |
| thomasem | what's the issue? | 22:26 |
| sdake__ | i wonder if it would work if you were running a l3 agent on the node | 22:26 |
| apmelton | I'm gonna hit a similar issue when I get to a template that'll work with rackspace | 22:26 |
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| yuanying-alt | Ironic instance has original mac address because it is bare metal, so Neutron Port doesn't connect to ironic instance | 22:27 |
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| thomasem | Oh | 22:27 |
| thomasem | hmmmm | 22:27 |
| sdake__ | ironic/neutron should be able to fix that | 22:27 |
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| thomasem | Yeah, that seems do-able. | 22:27 |
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| apmelton | so, this is a bit of a tangent, is the model of using floating IPs and manually creating ports a standard model many people are using? | 22:28 |
| adrian_otto | cool, so diga, do you feeel that this is specific enough? | 22:29 |
| adrian_otto | I think we should record this into a blueprint | 22:29 |
| diga | Yes adrian_otto | 22:29 |
| adrian_otto | I will work with you on that | 22:29 |
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| diga | sure | 22:29 |
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| sdake__ | apmelton apparently best practice ;) | 22:30 |
| yuanying-alt | but ironic template can't it. | 22:30 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, any other work items that need team discussion today? | 22:31 |
| sdake__ | just wanted to say thanks for all the testing on the fedora-atomic-21-2 image | 22:31 |
| madhuri_ | I need to discss about k8s-client | 22:32 |
| madhuri_ | Can we? | 22:32 |
| adrian_otto | madhuri_: we can in Open Discussion | 22:32 |
| adrian_otto | if ther eare no specific work items, then we can do that | 22:32 |
| madhuri_ | Ok. Sure | 22:32 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 22:32 |
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| adrian_otto | madhuri_: you are up. Proceed. | 22:32 |
| madhuri_ | I tried generating pep8 compliant code yesterday using swagger | 22:33 |
| madhuri_ | And I think it would be hard to push it upstream because that code would be magnum specific | 22:34 |
| sdake__ | madhuri_ maybe a manual modification of the patch set would work out | 22:34 |
| madhuri_ | So I want some opinion here how to proceed further? | 22:34 |
| sdake__ | my quetion would be, does the code work as generated? | 22:34 |
| adrian_otto | pep8 is not magnum specific. it's python specific. | 22:34 |
| madhuri_ | No, it failed | 22:34 |
| sdake__ | how did it fail | 22:35 |
| madhuri_ | Yes I agree but the rules defined can't be applied to all projects using swagger | 22:35 |
| sdake__ | so the code generator is busted, spectacular | 22:35 |
| madhuri_ | Every project must have their own set of rules | 22:35 |
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| madhuri_ | sdake__: Yes, it doesn't work at all | 22:35 |
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| madhuri_ | Due to syntax error | 22:36 |
| sdake__ | not inspiring | 22:36 |
| madhuri_ | I tried fixing that | 22:36 |
| sdake__ | i'd complain on google-containers | 22:36 |
| juggler | Technical debt? | 22:36 |
| sdake__ | and tell them to write a proper python language binding :) | 22:36 |
| juggler | :) | 22:37 |
| madhuri_ | So, what do you think sdake__ ? | 22:37 |
| madhuri_ | Should we carry on with this? | 22:37 |
| sdake__ | madhuri_ can you get it to work | 22:37 |
| madhuri_ | Yes. I can try | 22:37 |
| sdake__ | I'd prefer to use the generator in the short term | 22:37 |
| sdake__ | writing a language binding is a monumental task | 22:37 |
| sdake__ | maybe not monumental | 22:38 |
| madhuri_ | Ok. So I will try to fix that issues and try it out with magnum | 22:38 |
| sdake__ | bit big in scope atleast | 22:38 |
| madhuri_ | Agree | 22:38 |
| sdake__ | keep a diff of your work | 22:38 |
| sdake__ | i'm interested t o see how the code generator fails | 22:38 |
| sdake__ | pls | 22:38 |
| madhuri_ | Sure | 22:38 |
| sdake__ | that is something the swagger upstream needs to fix | 22:38 |
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| madhuri_ | Agree | 22:39 |
| hongbin | A question for the pep8 | 22:39 |
| hongbin | Is that possible to disable pep8 for generated code? | 22:39 |
| juggler | yeah is swagger upstream aware of the issue? | 22:39 |
| madhuri_ | May be. | 22:39 |
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| madhuri_ | I tried contacting them but couldn't | 22:39 |
| sdake__ | no mailing list? | 22:40 |
| madhuri_ | I will raise an issue for this | 22:40 |
| madhuri_ | I haven't mailed yet | 22:40 |
| sdake__ | ya, evaluate the upstream - see if they are responsive | 22:40 |
| sdake__ | we need to know that as well | 22:40 |
| adrian_otto | oh, in all the excitement during announcements, I forgot to discuss PTL election. | 22:40 |
| madhuri_ | Ok. sure | 22:40 |
| adrian_otto | do you want to take a moment to touch on that? | 22:41 |
| sdake__ | adrian_otto +1 | 22:41 |
| juggler | !! | 22:41 |
| openstack | juggler: Error: "!" is not a valid command. | 22:41 |
| madhuri_ | So I will try to make generated code work | 22:41 |
| sdake__ | !give_me_all_the_money | 22:41 |
| openstack | sdake__: Error: "give_me_all_the_money" is not a valid command. | 22:41 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so historically Stackforge projects all ran their own elections, announcing candidate openings on openstack-dev ML | 22:41 |
| adrian_otto | based on feedback from our _OpenStack_ election official that has been confusing the OpenStack electorate | 22:42 |
| adrian_otto | so we have been asked to conduct an election candidate nomination process that does not use the mailing list. | 22:42 |
| adrian_otto | so I have a specific proposal for you all to consider. | 22:43 |
| adrian_otto | first of all, we only need to hold an election if there is > 1 candidate | 22:43 |
| adrian_otto | only contributors are eligible to declare a candidacy. | 22:43 |
| adrian_otto | so we can email all contributors and ask them to show up to our next IRC team meeting | 22:43 |
| adrian_otto | and if one of us wants to have an election, a candidacy can be announced during that agenda item | 22:44 |
| sdake__ | i dislike this personally | 22:44 |
| adrian_otto | then the election official will run the election. The electorate is made up of the project contributors, should an election be needed. | 22:44 |
| sdake__ | I htink a permanent mailing list record is beneficial | 22:44 |
| adrian_otto | this will only matter for this election | 22:44 |
| adrian_otto | because subsequent elections we will fit into the OpenStack election | 22:45 |
| sdake__ | i'd be surprised if this one should fit in? | 22:45 |
| sdake__ | since we hit integration | 22:45 |
| adrian_otto | sdake__: there is another way to deal with taht | 22:45 |
| adrian_otto | sdake__: it is too late for this one, right? | 22:45 |
| sdake__ | no, the elections haven't been done yet | 22:45 |
| adrian_otto | candidate deadlines have elapsed for this cycle? | 22:45 |
| sdake__ | asfar as i can tell | 22:45 |
| adrian_otto | oh, in that case we can just tag along. | 22:46 |
| sdake__ | i could be out of the loop but beest to double check | 22:46 |
| sdake__ | usually the elections are after 2015.1.0 is cut - april 25th | 22:46 |
| adrian_otto | let me check on that. one moment please. | 22:46 |
| adrian_otto | #Link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTL_Elections_March/April_2014 OpenStack Election | 22:47 |
| adrian_otto | March 28 - April 4, 05:59 UTC: Open candidacy to PTL positions | 22:47 |
| adrian_otto | so this is a solved problem!! | 22:48 |
| sdake__ | winning:) | 22:48 |
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| * sdake__ the voice of reason | 22:48 | |
| juggler | yeah | 22:48 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so I will take no further action on this topic | 22:48 |
| juggler | correction, ya | 22:48 |
| sdake__ | we just need to make sure someone actually runs one for us :) | 22:48 |
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| adrian_otto | all I need to do is declare a candidacy in accordance with the process | 22:49 |
| adrian_otto | but we don't need our own election | 22:49 |
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| sdake__ | and any other people that want to run of course ;) | 22:50 |
| adrian_otto | actually, I don't see what program we would belong to | 22:50 |
| adrian_otto | I will follow up to check | 22:50 |
| adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to check to see if Magnum may participate in the April 4 - April 11: PTL elections. | 22:51 |
| juggler | is sdake volunteering? :) | 22:51 |
| sdake__ | I am not running, I have too much on my plate and adrian_otto is doing a fine job :) | 22:51 |
| juggler | agreed | 22:51 |
| sdake__ | if adrian_otto falls over dead, i'll run :) | 22:52 |
| adrian_otto | I can tell you that being PTL of more than one project is extremely hard | 22:52 |
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| juggler | that begs the question and i'm not volunteering, but is there an alternate PTL? | 22:52 |
| sdake__ | agree I dont know why anyone would do two :) | 22:52 |
| adrian_otto | I don't know if anyone else has tried that besides me | 22:52 |
| sdake__ | one is enough work for two people imo | 22:52 |
| adrian_otto | well said! | 22:53 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, time to wrap up for today? | 22:57 |
| sdake__ | yup | 22:57 |
| thomasem | I'm hearing crickets. :) | 22:57 |
| adrian_otto | Our next meeting is 2015-03-31 at 1600 UTC. I look forward to seeing you all there. | 22:57 |
| adrian_otto | thanks everyone! | 22:57 |
| thomasem | Cheers! | 22:57 |
| juggler | take care all | 22:57 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 22:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 24 22:58:04 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-03-24-22.00.html | 22:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-03-24-22.00.txt | 22:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-03-24-22.00.log.html | 22:58 |
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