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| Sukhdev | Hello ML2 gang it is meeting time | 16:00 |
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| rkukura | hi | 16:00 |
| yamamoto_ | hi | 16:00 |
| yamahata | hello | 16:00 |
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| Sukhdev | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 21 16:00:49 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:00 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_October_21.2C_2015 | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | Mitaka Summit is next week - | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | I hope to see you all in Tokyo next week | 16:01 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: +1 | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | We will not have meeting next week. | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | I am traveling in Japan after summit for a week - so, I will not be able to join the meeting the following week as well | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: Are you OK to chair that week or should we cancel that as well - most of the people will be travelling | 16:03 |
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| rkukura | I can chair if we have enough people to hold a meeting. | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: cool - thanks | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: We can play by the ear or just announce it ahead of time so that folks can plan | 16:04 |
| rkukura | I’m fine with skipping that week unless we have something urgent. | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | Mitaka summit schedule is out - https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/schedule/design-summit | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: My vote is to cancel the following week - I am canceling all my other meetings the week after summit :-):-) | 16:06 |
| rkukura | any objections? | 16:06 |
| yamahata | no objection as I'll also be on vacation for a week | 16:06 |
| yamamoto_ | no objection | 16:06 |
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| rkukura | Sounds like I may actually get some work done that week ;) ! | 16:07 |
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| Sukhdev | moving along | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Mid Cycle summary | 16:08 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: you were going to write up the summary of the task flow discussion - any luck with that? | 16:08 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: I have not had a chance. | 16:09 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: when ever you have a chance, it will be good to post it - | 16:09 |
| rkukura | Its definitely worth capturing in the email. | 16:10 |
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| Sukhdev | yamahata: would you like to share your feedback on that meeting? | 16:10 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Driver API for security groups | 16:11 |
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| Sukhdev | yamamoto_: good to see you here - | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | want to provide any update on this topic? | 16:12 |
| yamamoto_ | unfortunately no update | 16:12 |
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| Sukhdev | yamamoto_: we missed you at the sprint - as we thought about covering this topic there as well | 16:13 |
| yamahata | yamamoto_: do you have any plan for M? | 16:13 |
| yamahata | otherwise I'd like to work on it. | 16:13 |
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| yamahata | at least I'd like to have a discussion at the summit | 16:13 |
| rkukura | yamahata: +1 | 16:13 |
| yamamoto_ | yamahata: +1 | 16:13 |
| Sukhdev | yamamoto_: +1 | 16:13 |
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| Sukhdev | sorry - auto complete error | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: +1 | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: yamamoto_: if you like we can meet up about this at the summit on Friday session | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | At present Friday is wide open for discussions | 16:15 |
| yamahata | sure | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | anything else on this? | 16:16 |
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| yamahata | updated etherpad | 16:16 |
| yamahata | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-neutron-unplugged-track | 16:16 |
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| Sukhdev | yamahata: cool - thanks | 16:17 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: perhaps we should block time on Friday for ML2 discussion - as we did in Vancouver | 16:17 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: agreed (although I will be leaving early afternoon for a 6:30 narita flight) | 16:18 |
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| Sukhdev | We can pick morning session for this - say 10 or 11AM | 16:19 |
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| rkukura | I’d suggest we try to get people together on very specific topics such as ML2+SGs earlier in the week, and continue Friday if needed. | 16:19 |
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| rkukura | I’d also like to see if anyone is interested in discussion how status info from multiple MDs can be coelesced and made visible to clients. | 16:20 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: can you put this on the etherpad as well | 16:20 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: done | 16:22 |
| Sukhdev | cool - thanks | 16:22 |
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| Sukhdev | yamahata: yamamoto_: do you have any additional details on the Security API? | 16:24 |
| Sukhdev | anything other than listed here on the ML2 wiki? | 16:24 |
| yamahata | I have no idea so far. I'd like to hear from yamamoto | 16:24 |
| yamahata | It's also needed for ODL driver | 16:24 |
| yamamoto_ | nothing except notes on wiki | 16:25 |
| yamamoto_ | i think odl is in the same situation with midonet in that regard | 16:25 |
| Sukhdev | oh I see - OK | 16:26 |
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| yamamoto_ | i wanted to write some poc code but had no chance | 16:26 |
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| Sukhdev | oh I see | 16:28 |
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| Sukhdev | It seems there are other people interested in this as well | 16:29 |
| Sukhdev | anyways - lets move on | 16:29 |
| Sukhdev | I do not see scheuran here - so, I am going to skip the next topic | 16:29 |
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| Sukhdev | I do not see shiv or arvind either - so, will skip the topology as well | 16:30 |
| yamahata | do you know if arvind will come to Tokyo? | 16:30 |
| shivharis | hi | 16:30 |
| rkukura | Is anything on topology scheduled for the summit? | 16:30 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis: ah ha - so, he is here - good to see you here | 16:31 |
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| Sukhdev | shivharis: will there be a session on the topology in Tokoyo? | 16:31 |
| shivharis | we need to plan for the topology as BOF | 16:31 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis: what is BOF? and when does that take place? | 16:32 |
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| shivharis | i will try to see who all would be interested - i see some other folks from VMware interested as well | 16:32 |
| shivharis | bof == unconference | 16:32 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis: that takes place on Friday, right? | 16:32 |
| shivharis | Sukhdev: right | 16:33 |
| shivharis | we have formal slides for topology that we will use for presentation | 16:34 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis: you may want to add this to the etherpad | 16:34 |
| shivharis | Sukhdev: will do | 16:34 |
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| Sukhdev | yamahata: yamamoto_: BTW look at item on line 20 on the etherpad | 16:35 |
| Sukhdev | there may be some overlap | 16:35 |
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| Sukhdev | shivharis: anything else on the Topology? | 16:36 |
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| shivharis | Sukhdev: our goal will be to find the interest level among vendors | 16:36 |
| yamamoto_ | what's the problem with ironic? | 16:36 |
| shivharis | thats mostly it for now. | 16:36 |
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| Sukhdev | yamamoto_: I am not aware but, thought I bring to your attention - perhaps we can follow up with them | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Open Discussion | 16:38 |
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| Sukhdev | Anything we want to discuss before heading to Tokyo? | 16:38 |
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| Sukhdev | If you are interested in baremetal deployments for multi-tenancy using Neutron | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | for which I have been working during the Liberty cycle - | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | there is a main conf session on Wednesday - please come and attend it | 16:39 |
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| Sukhdev | I will have a demo as well | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | Either recorded or live - | 16:40 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: I’m planning to attend if possible | 16:40 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: you will like it - as your ideas are incorporated in the solution - | 16:41 |
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| Sukhdev | Any thing else? | 16:41 |
| Sukhdev | #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-neutron-unplugged-track | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | just wanted to make sure link to the ether pad is captured | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | If nothing else, I guess we are done | 16:42 |
| rkukura | Thanks Sukhdev! | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | see ya' all next week | 16:42 |
| shivharis | thanks, bye | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | bye | 16:42 |
| yamamoto_ | bye | 16:42 |
| yamahata | bye | 16:42 |
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| rkukura | bye | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 16:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 21 16:42:57 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-10-21-16.00.html | 16:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-10-21-16.00.txt | 16:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-10-21-16.00.log.html | 16:43 |
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| cp16net | #startmeeting trove | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 21 18:00:08 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cp16net. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:00 |
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| cp16net | #topic roll call | 18:00 |
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| cp16net | howdy everyone | 18:00 |
| * cp16net looks around the empty room | 18:01 | |
| imandhan | o/ | 18:01 |
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| cp16net | hello imandhan | 18:01 |
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| amrith | ./ | 18:02 |
| dougshelley66 | o/ | 18:02 |
| vkmc | o/ | 18:02 |
| peterstac | \o | 18:02 |
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| cp16net | giving folks a moment | 18:03 |
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| vkmc | ~o~ | 18:04 |
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| cp16net | #topic trove pulse update | 18:05 |
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| cp16net | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-pulse-update | 18:05 |
| cp16net | #link http://bit.ly/1VQyg00 | 18:05 |
| ashleighfarnham | o/ | 18:05 |
| cp16net | looks like we are picking a little steam up on the reviews before it will likey fall for the summit | 18:06 |
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| cp16net | any comments questions? | 18:07 |
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| cp16net | alright then... moving on | 18:08 |
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| cp16net | #topic Mitaka Summit Sessions | 18:08 |
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| cp16net | i updated the descriptions on the sched with the suggested topics people posted | 18:08 |
| cp16net | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-trove-summit | 18:09 |
| cp16net | i moved around the topics to arragne them on this page | 18:09 |
| cp16net | and created etherpads for each of them we can use during the sessiosn | 18:09 |
| cp16net | #link http://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/overview/type/trove | 18:10 |
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| vkmc | cp16net, sweet! thanks | 18:10 |
| cp16net | i also updated the wiki page that all the projects are using to list their sessions https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Mitaka/Etherpads#Trove | 18:10 |
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| vkmc | cp16net, I proposed this one, so sounds like I should lead it... http://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/event/ba243d97a92e022fbbe2502f99cced77#.VifVKXUVhBc | 18:11 |
| vkmc | but I have a presentation at the same day/time | 18:11 |
| vkmc | (just wanted to let you know) | 18:11 |
| vkmc | if someone else can lead it, then I'd appreciate some updates later | 18:11 |
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| cp16net | we could swap it on wed 440pm so that you could be there | 18:12 |
| cp16net | its the currently that is the toggle status session | 18:13 |
| vkmc | if that works for everybody, sounds good to me | 18:13 |
| cp16net | any objections? | 18:13 |
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| dougshelley66 | sounds fine | 18:14 |
| cp16net | #action cp16net swap toggle status sessions with trove upgrades session times | 18:14 |
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| cp16net | sounds good then | 18:15 |
| cp16net | can we get a volunteer for the toggle status? | 18:15 |
| amrith | vkmc, arent you also doing some other trove presentations i.e. in the conference? | 18:15 |
| dougshelley66 | how about peterstac | 18:15 |
| cp16net | i think edmondk posted it | 18:16 |
| amrith | I would like to volunteer peterstac | 18:16 |
| amrith | dougshelley66, ++ | 18:16 |
| peterstac | I've already added some info on the detailed wiki page about it | 18:16 |
| cp16net | ok great thanks peterstac | 18:16 |
| amrith | yes, I read the stuff that peterstac posted hence the recommenation. | 18:16 |
| amrith | recommendation | 18:16 |
| amrith | thx | 18:16 |
| vkmc | amrith, no... we didn't get accepted the image creation one we proposed with abramley :( | 18:17 |
| peterstac | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-mitaka-toggle-instance-status | 18:17 |
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| peterstac | There's a spec up, plus the implementation | 18:17 |
| cp16net | cool | 18:17 |
| amrith | cp16net, one thing | 18:17 |
| amrith | the code that is posted for this is much more stable than our current code base. | 18:18 |
| amrith | see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234462/3 | 18:18 |
| amrith | the number of times it has consecutively passed rechecks makes my head spin | 18:18 |
| amrith | I'd like to get this stuff reviewed and merged quickly if possible | 18:18 |
| amrith | so that others can get the benefit of the code | 18:18 |
| cp16net | ok sounds good need to look at that | 18:18 |
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| amrith | yes, I'd like to raise the visibility of this | 18:18 |
| amrith | and maybe do the same thing we did in the mid-cycle | 18:19 |
| amrith | of having it merged while we're all in Tokyo (if not sooner). | 18:19 |
| cp16net | ok so looks like at least one other sessions here we have | 18:19 |
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| cp16net | Make Trove distribution agnostic | 18:19 |
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| cp16net | volunteer for that one? | 18:19 |
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| cp16net | i do not recall who added it | 18:19 |
| amrith | is that vkmc ? | 18:19 |
| cp16net | i was thinking vkmc or pmackinn | 18:20 |
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| vkmc | I added that | 18:20 |
| cp16net | in any case i can get the party started if needed | 18:20 |
| pmackinn | I LOVE THAT IDEA! | 18:20 |
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| cp16net | pmackinn: :) | 18:21 |
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| pmackinn | cp16net, vkmc: more specifically, better resilience to distro/vendor variants | 18:21 |
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| cp16net | alright i'll help lead this one then | 18:22 |
| vkmc | pmackinn++ | 18:22 |
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| vkmc | I can help of course | 18:22 |
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| amrith | it would be good to get some more idea about what we intend to talk about before summit | 18:23 |
| amrith | so we can all ponder it. | 18:23 |
| amrith | in advance | 18:23 |
| cp16net | ok so i started listing a bunch of other topics at the bottom that could potentially have their own sessions but we only have 4 working sessions | 18:23 |
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| amrith | can we get more sessions? | 18:24 |
| amrith | can we hangout someplace and hold sessions? | 18:24 |
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| amrith | or is that frowned upon? | 18:24 |
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| cp16net | we can and i think thats part of the time they allow for the contributors meetup | 18:25 |
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| amrith | isn't the audience potentially different? | 18:25 |
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| cp16net | it could be but its more of a focus time for the team | 18:26 |
| amrith | I would also like to draw everyones attention to this (these) sessions | 18:26 |
| amrith | that we should consider attending | 18:26 |
| amrith | http://sched.co/4QbI | 18:26 |
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| amrith | ok, at least that one | 18:27 |
| cp16net | we could potentially find a room for extra time if needed | 18:27 |
| cp16net | yeah that would be a good session be at | 18:28 |
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| cp16net | thanks for mentioning that amrith | 18:28 |
| pmackinn | amrith, +1 | 18:29 |
| cp16net | once we are all there i'm sure we will be talking trove the ENTIRE TIME :-P | 18:29 |
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| cp16net | alright any other comments regarding the sessions/summit? | 18:30 |
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| dougshelley66 | over artisanal beers served by HP | 18:30 |
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| cp16net | #topic no meeting next week (oct 28th) | 18:32 |
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| cp16net | just fyi | 18:32 |
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| cp16net | #topic open discussion | 18:32 |
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| amrith | ./ | 18:32 |
| cp16net | go ahead amrith | 18:33 |
| amrith | thanks ... | 18:33 |
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| amrith | notwithstanding the pulse update earlier in the meeting | 18:33 |
| amrith | I have to notice an uptick in the number of outstanding reviews | 18:33 |
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| amrith | we seem to have some new contributors | 18:33 |
| amrith | who are submitting stuff | 18:33 |
| amrith | and I'd like to get their stuff quickly considered and reviewed. | 18:33 |
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| amrith | so we don't loose the enthusiasm | 18:33 |
| amrith | I also have a number of changes (of my own) that have actually passed the gate | 18:34 |
| amrith | and I notice that they've got no reviewer-attention | 18:34 |
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| amrith | So, given that we're all going to be in Tokyo next week, could we have a conversation about how we can channel our energeies and get reviews done sooner | 18:34 |
| amrith | we started this conversation at the mid-cycle | 18:35 |
| amrith | and I'd like to continue it | 18:35 |
| amrith | and track the improvement in terms of reducing the # outstanding reviews. | 18:35 |
| amrith | that's all I got ... | 18:35 |
| cp16net | yeah i think we continue to see the open reviews tick up | 18:35 |
| amrith | cp16net, I know that the flaky dsvm is a contributing factor and I'm trying to work on that | 18:36 |
| amrith | but at the end of the day, we need active reviewers | 18:36 |
| amrith | like (to beat the drum again) the stuff that peterstac pushed up | 18:36 |
| amrith | or the int-test framework | 18:37 |
| amrith | those are going to benefit us all | 18:37 |
| cp16net | yeah i think this is something that we could address and look at as a team | 18:37 |
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| amrith | we need to aggressively push those forward. | 18:37 |
| amrith | thx cp16net | 18:37 |
| cp16net | thank you amrith for pointing this out | 18:37 |
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| cp16net | anything else from anyone? | 18:38 |
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| cp16net | . | 18:39 |
| amrith | . | 18:39 |
| cp16net | alright thanks for everyone | 18:39 |
| amrith | see y'all in tokyo! | 18:39 |
| cp16net | see you all in tokyo | 18:39 |
| cp16net | #endmeeting | 18:40 |
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| amrith | ;) | 18:40 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 21 18:40:02 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-10-21-18.00.html | 18:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-10-21-18.00.txt | 18:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-10-21-18.00.log.html | 18:40 |
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| vkmc | thanks, see you guys! | 18:44 |
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| xgerman | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 21 20:00:02 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is xgerman. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| sbalukoff | Greetings, y'all! | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
| johnsom | o/ | 20:00 |
| xgerman | #chair blogan, johnsom | 20:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: blogan johnsom xgerman | 20:00 |
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| ajmiller | hi | 20:00 |
| xgerman | #topic Announcements | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| minwang2 | o/ | 20:00 |
| xgerman | Our design session: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-neutron-next-adv-services | 20:00 |
| blogan | hello! | 20:01 |
| bana_k | hi | 20:01 |
| rm_work | o/ | 20:01 |
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| xgerman | also next week is no meeting | 20:01 |
| xgerman | #info skipping 10/28 meeting due to summit | 20:02 |
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| sbalukoff | well, next week is one big meeting. ;) | 20:02 |
| xgerman | yeah, IBM throwing a party? | 20:02 |
| johnsom | lol | 20:02 |
| sbalukoff | Are we going to do a groupme again? | 20:03 |
| rm_work | I assume so | 20:03 |
| xgerman | I hope so | 20:03 |
| rm_work | i usually just rename the old one | 20:03 |
| johnsom | +1 | 20:03 |
| xgerman | +2 | 20:03 |
| rm_work | so everyone is already on it | 20:03 |
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| rm_work | i'll do that now | 20:03 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: I find out tonight. I've not been following IBM's stuff on the summit that closely | 20:03 |
| sbalukoff | rm_work: Excellent! | 20:03 |
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| rm_work | done | 20:04 |
| xgerman | #topic Design session planning/recap | 20:04 |
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| rm_work | remember to install / unmute groupme | 20:04 |
| xgerman | so dougwig told us from an airport that we totally need to have this topic | 20:04 |
| rm_work | so... a planning meeting for our planning meeting? | 20:04 |
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| * rm_work is down | 20:04 | |
| xgerman | apparently | 20:05 |
| sbalukoff | Er... | 20:05 |
| sbalukoff | Ok. | 20:05 |
| dougwig | Stealth illegal cellular | 20:05 |
| rm_work | lol dougwig | 20:05 |
| johnsom | Hahaa | 20:05 |
| xgerman | lol | 20:05 |
| rm_work | are you AIRBORN? | 20:05 |
| sbalukoff | Haha | 20:05 |
| dougwig | Heh, I just wanted a head up for folks to provide input. | 20:05 |
| dougwig | No, waiting for runway | 20:06 |
| xgerman | that actually gives me hope for my flight ;-) | 20:06 |
| rm_work | because I thought cell signal just *wouldn't work* on airplanes.... due to like.... PHYSICS | 20:06 |
| rm_work | lol k | 20:06 |
| dougwig | It works fine, you just cycle towers too fast. | 20:06 |
| rm_work | right | 20:06 |
| rm_work | that's the issue | 20:06 |
| johnsom | yep | 20:06 |
| rm_work | you are moving too fast :P | 20:06 |
| rm_work | handoffs can't happen quickly enough | 20:06 |
| dougwig | This flight has international gogo anyway. | 20:06 |
| rm_work | yep, how much is that for international? | 20:06 |
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| rm_work | I usually pay like $15 | 20:07 |
| sbalukoff | Yay for satellite internets. | 20:07 |
| blogan | im pretty sure my flight does not have wifi | 20:07 |
| dougwig | So I'll disappear for 20 mins. | 20:07 |
| rm_work | k | 20:07 |
| xgerman | k | 20:07 |
| sbalukoff | Ok. | 20:07 |
| rm_work | I am assuming it'll be more for a 12 hour flight | 20:07 |
| dougwig | $4 for a smartphone pass | 20:07 |
| rm_work | dougwig: not bad | 20:07 |
| johnsom | Score | 20:07 |
| xgerman | can’t you expense it? | 20:07 |
| rm_work | ... i wonder if i can share that via USB | 20:07 |
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| sballe | o/ | 20:07 |
| xgerman | anyway, are all the topic we want to talk on that pad? | 20:08 |
| johnsom | So, back on topic, is there another etherpad of topics we need to update or something? | 20:08 |
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| xgerman | rm_work ssl passphrase? | 20:08 |
| johnsom | Or, just the one LBaas/FWaas | 20:08 |
| dougwig | The Lbaas one, linked above. | 20:08 |
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| rm_work | yeah we'll need to discuss that passphrase issue | 20:08 |
| rm_work | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237807/1/specs/mitaka/neutron-lbaas-store-tls-passphrase.rst,cm | 20:09 |
| xgerman | yep, so it should be a topic? | 20:09 |
| dougwig | Yes | 20:09 |
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| xgerman | done + done | 20:10 |
| xgerman | though I could just -2 the proposal ;-) | 20:10 |
| blogan | and then i can -4 it | 20:10 |
| sbalukoff | Haha! | 20:10 |
| dougwig | I'll scrub that into the template format tonight, so please add ideas today if you can. | 20:10 |
| xgerman | cool! Are you doing FWaaS, too? | 20:11 |
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| dougwig | I'll prep for both. I don't care who moderates. Can be anyone. | 20:12 |
| xgerman | ok, cool | 20:12 |
| xgerman | so any other topic? | 20:12 |
| dougwig | Imo, if the moderator does all the talking, the session was a bust. :) | 20:12 |
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| sbalukoff | Unless that moderator is me. :) | 20:13 |
| sbalukoff | Just sayin' | 20:13 |
| dougwig | Lol | 20:13 |
| blogan | or the moderator got 100% consensus | 20:13 |
| blogan | and wsa amazing | 20:13 |
| xgerman | well, as a co-chair I will not give you the talking token | 20:13 |
| sbalukoff | Aaw! | 20:13 |
| dougwig | sbalukoff will get the hot seat for active active. | 20:13 |
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| xgerman | yep, with a trap door | 20:14 |
| sbalukoff | Which I'm sure we will all agree on immediately. | 20:14 |
| sbalukoff | Haha! | 20:14 |
| johnsom | I want the shocker | 20:14 |
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| johnsom | Heat = Buzz | 20:14 |
| dougwig | Rough crowd. :) | 20:14 |
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| dougwig | Ok, on the runway. | 20:14 |
| xgerman | yeah, I guess we need gavels to call the room to order | 20:14 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: You might discover I agree with you on some of this, eh. ;) | 20:15 |
| sbalukoff | Seeya, dougwig! | 20:15 |
| johnsom | I know, but it still sounds like fun | 20:15 |
| xgerman | have a safe flight!! | 20:15 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: What's a little electrocution between friends, eh. ;) | 20:15 |
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| dougwig | And there go the engines spinning up... | 20:16 |
| dougwig | See y'all in a few. | 20:16 |
| blogan | adios | 20:16 |
| xgerman | bye | 20:16 |
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| xgerman | so any other topics we need to talk about in that session or topics we can remove ? | 20:16 |
| blogan | oh i have one, let me add it | 20:17 |
| blogan | multiple controller workers | 20:17 |
| xgerman | that’s good one | 20:17 |
| sbalukoff | Oh, right! | 20:17 |
| johnsom | How long is the session??? | 20:17 |
| sbalukoff | Let's call that: Fully redundant / horizontally scalable controllers. | 20:18 |
| xgerman | 40 minutes or so | 20:18 |
| sbalukoff | Because it'll be more than just the worker. | 20:18 |
| sbalukoff | Wow... | 20:18 |
| blogan | yeah | 20:18 |
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| johnsom | We need to scope out space we can crash | 20:18 |
| sbalukoff | Ok, so... yeah. We're going to be lucky to get through all this. | 20:18 |
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| sbalukoff | johnsom: +1 | 20:18 |
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| johnsom | Well, there are two topics there, which or both? | 20:18 |
| sbalukoff | I propose we coordinate that on groupme. | 20:18 |
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| blogan | doesn't hurt to get a list and then moderator prioritizes | 20:18 |
| johnsom | Controller worker drivers and/or control plane HA | 20:19 |
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| sbalukoff | (Coordinate finding crash space on groupme, I mean-- since none of us know the layout well enough to say where to meet.) | 20:19 |
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| sballe | +1 | 20:20 |
| xgerman | I am there Sunday night… so can scout it out until johnsom gets there | 20:20 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: Awesome! Let us know what you find. | 20:20 |
| johnsom | Yep. I was thinking we just keep our eyes open for good spots | 20:20 |
| sbalukoff | I'm there... I think on Tuesday. | 20:20 |
| sbalukoff | Or something. | 20:20 |
| blogan | you get there on tuesday? | 20:20 |
| * xgerman wonders if I should crash WoOS | 20:20 | |
| blogan | the day of teh talk? | 20:20 |
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| sbalukoff | blogan: Wait, no! I get there on Monday. | 20:20 |
| xgerman | sounds like sbalukoff | 20:20 |
| sbalukoff | Durr. | 20:20 |
| johnsom | The talk moved to Thursday remember they asked us about it | 20:21 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: whew | 20:21 |
| sballe | xgerman: I know mestery will be at WoOS | 20:21 |
| sbalukoff | Sorry, off by one error. | 20:21 |
| blogan | johnsom: ohhh yeah | 20:21 |
| sballe | and so will I | 20:21 |
| blogan | i forgot about that | 20:21 |
| johnsom | I get there on Monday too | 20:21 |
| blogan | johnsom: thansk for reminder | 20:21 |
| sbalukoff | Actually-- | 20:21 |
| blogan | first time this talk hasn't been on the first day | 20:21 |
| xgerman | :-) | 20:21 |
| sbalukoff | could we announce the times of the talk and the lab here? | 20:21 |
| johnsom | Hands on is Wednesday, talk is Thursday | 20:21 |
| xgerman | what about tradition... | 20:21 |
| rm_work | yeah when is the lab | 20:21 |
| rm_work | ah k | 20:21 |
| sbalukoff | I've not yet heard final scheduling on that. | 20:21 |
| rm_work | we are looking at imaging the USB drives | 20:22 |
| johnsom | Sure, let me look it up again so I don't get it wrong | 20:22 |
| rm_work | did you guys link an image for them? | 20:22 |
| rm_work | I seem to recall | 20:22 |
| xgerman | yeah, we did | 20:22 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks, johnsom! | 20:22 |
| rm_work | can you re-link that as a #link | 20:22 |
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| xgerman | #link http://tinyurl.com/octavia-workshop | 20:22 |
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| xgerman | #topic Brief progress reports | 20:23 |
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| xgerman | let’s move on | 20:23 |
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| blogan | main conference lbaas talk is thursday at 240 | 20:23 |
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| johnsom | Hands on lab - Wednesday @2:50pm | 20:23 |
| johnsom | #link https://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/mysessions?iframe=yes&w=&sidebar=yes&bg=no | 20:23 |
| sbalukoff | Nice! | 20:23 |
| johnsom | Oh, that didn't work | 20:23 |
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| sbalukoff | Well, we've got the dates and times now. | 20:24 |
| johnsom | #link http://sched.co/49HH | 20:24 |
| sbalukoff | That works too. | 20:24 |
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| rm_work | wow, slow DL :/ | 20:24 |
| johnsom | Load Balancing as a Service - Thursday @ 2:40pm | 20:24 |
| rm_work | is this HP's CDN? | 20:24 |
| johnsom | #link http://sched.co/49HH | 20:24 |
| rm_work | <_< | 20:24 |
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| rm_work | maybe local network is bad | 20:25 |
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| blogan | so back on topic | 20:25 |
| blogan | lol | 20:25 |
| johnsom | For the USB, I think we want the image, the trial VMware workstation, trial VMware fusion, and putty on the stick right? | 20:25 |
| xgerman | yep, it’s all on that link | 20:26 |
| johnsom | Oh cool | 20:26 |
| xgerman | download, unpack or not and put on the drive | 20:26 |
| rm_work | i assumed this would be a single iso to flash with dd | 20:26 |
| rm_work | but that works too | 20:26 |
| blogan | i've just been workign as much as i can on the containers flows, also adding in bug fixes | 20:26 |
| rm_work | just rsync to USB drive | 20:26 |
| xgerman | yep, or drag & drop if you are on Mac OS X | 20:26 |
| rm_work | still rsync <_< | 20:27 |
| rm_work | checksum verification FTW | 20:27 |
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| sbalukoff | Haha! | 20:27 |
| xgerman | I did some TLS verification and then ended up roping in johnsom | 20:27 |
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| xgerman | so we need some reviews for his patch | 20:28 |
| bana_k | One of my other team at my company took over my work for heat support for LBaaS v2. So I am available for other tasks if we have any. | 20:28 |
| johnsom | Yep. I have been working on VRRP. killing bugs. | 20:28 |
| sbalukoff | ...are we onto the progress reports now? | 20:28 |
| xgerman | yep | 20:28 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237707/ | 20:28 |
| sbalukoff | Ok! | 20:28 |
| johnsom | ^^ TLS bug | 20:28 |
| sbalukoff | Yay! | 20:28 |
| sbalukoff | So! There's this: | 20:28 |
| sbalukoff | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234639/ | 20:29 |
| dougwig | o/ | 20:29 |
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| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/215359 | 20:29 |
| sbalukoff | Active-active topology. Y'all were told about it last week. Please definitely review before the design session... | 20:29 |
| johnsom | cert rotation still needs some reviews | 20:29 |
| sbalukoff | But if you can also get some comments added prior to that that would be great: The IBM team is already putting together POC code, and it's annoying to have to back-track if we're not going the right direction with this, eh. | 20:29 |
| sbalukoff | Also! | 20:30 |
| sbalukoff | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232173/ | 20:30 |
| minwang2 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215359/ ——cert rotation | 20:30 |
| johnsom | Optimistic aren't they | 20:30 |
| sbalukoff | That's documentation updates. | 20:30 |
| sbalukoff | I have to add diagrams still (and hate all our options there)... but most importantly I've got the quick start guide first draft done. | 20:30 |
| minwang2 | also the doc about neutron-lbaas | 20:30 |
| sbalukoff | PLEASE have a look at that and tell me where I'm lying and where I've forgotten stuff. | 20:30 |
| minwang2 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224929/ | 20:30 |
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| rm_work | johnsom: I'm willing to workflow 237707 right now | 20:31 |
| sbalukoff | (I tried to balance between specificity when deploying Octavia in production, and having a "quick start" guide that was way too long.) | 20:31 |
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| johnsom | Also, I need the slides done before noon pacific on Saturday so I can fix formating, etc. on the plnae | 20:31 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: For the talk? the lab? both? | 20:32 |
| xgerman | both | 20:32 |
| sbalukoff | Ok. | 20:32 |
| xgerman | I will fix the lab on the plane as well ;-) | 20:32 |
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| rm_work | augh i haven't even been able to spin octavia in devstack yet, much less look at troubleshooting it or updating the slides for that section | 20:32 |
| rm_work | did someone say that section would be sort of a group effort to create anyway? | 20:32 |
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| sbalukoff | rm_work: Use your script! | 20:33 |
| rm_work | right | 20:33 |
| rm_work | i have only run it to debug that it works for other people :P | 20:33 |
| sbalukoff | rm_work: That's what I did in the quickstart guide. ;) | 20:33 |
| rm_work | haven't actually *used* the resulting devstack | 20:33 |
| rm_work | lol | 20:33 |
| sbalukoff | rm_work for the devstack portion of it anyway. ;) | 20:33 |
| rm_work | yeah | 20:33 |
| xgerman | ok, let’s make it a group effort then | 20:34 |
| xgerman | I can at least show them how to change the debug level an d where the logs are | 20:34 |
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| rm_work | looking forward to the planning session tonight just so i can see how to set it all up :P | 20:34 |
| johnsom | Maybe some pointers around that fire hose of a debug log | 20:34 |
| rm_work | I can do presentation and actual hands-on helping no problem | 20:35 |
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| rm_work | if people are better at making slides than presenting them | 20:35 |
| sbalukoff | rm_work: Ditto! | 20:35 |
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| xgerman | presenting is the prize for making slides ;-) | 20:35 |
| rm_work | heh | 20:35 |
| rm_work | or the curse (blogan) | 20:35 |
| xgerman | lol | 20:35 |
| blogan | this is very true | 20:36 |
| xgerman | ok, guess we are at | 20:36 |
| xgerman | #topic Open Discussion | 20:36 |
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| johnsom | If you don't help with slides we will just put you on stage with a white title screen. Your name in big letters | 20:36 |
| minwang2 | lol | 20:37 |
| johnsom | Maybe even a "email this person with questions" | 20:37 |
| xgerman | yep, and some lorem ispum | 20:37 |
| sbalukoff | Just to reiterate: I really do want y'all's input on that quick start guide. I think it's going to be important for getting Octavia adopted... and if it's wrong (which parts of it probably are right now), that doesn't help us at all! | 20:37 |
| rm_work | yeah i'll review that too | 20:37 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:37 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks! I very, very much appreciate it! | 20:37 |
| johnsom | I will try. I'm getting into crunch time with the demo. I have round_robin up and running, but I want to demo session persistence which has at least one bug. | 20:38 |
| xgerman | also if you have trouble installing it there are vendors who provide commercial support ahem | 20:38 |
| xgerman | or fanatical support ;-) | 20:38 |
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| sbalukoff | johnsom: I totally understand. We're down to the wire and getting the demo right is really important. | 20:38 |
| blogan | oh i wanted to mention the horizon dashboard | 20:38 |
| rm_work | johnsom: yeah, demo useful for actually finding and squashing bugs, eh? :P | 20:39 |
| blogan | im thinkign that we shouldn't show what we plan to do over what has already been done | 20:39 |
| sbalukoff | rm_work: Haha! Too true! | 20:39 |
| johnsom | rm_work See above testing topic for the design session.... | 20:39 |
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| sbalukoff | blogan: Oh? | 20:39 |
| xgerman | well, designs are also a work product... | 20:39 |
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| blogan | sbalukoff: yeah people worked on the current dashboard, i dont think we shoudl mitigate what they've done by showing something else | 20:40 |
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| xgerman | ok, so does the current thing work? | 20:40 |
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| johnsom | blogan I am confused. So, no octavia Active/Standby demo? | 20:40 |
| sbalukoff | Ok... but I suspect that astute observer will realize that LBaaS v1 dashboards are mostly going to be incompatible with LBaaS v2 dashboards. | 20:41 |
| xgerman | yes, Active-Standby demo... | 20:41 |
| johnsom | I think it is a good demo and will hopefully land in M1 | 20:41 |
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| blogan | im talking about the horizon dashboard images | 20:41 |
| xgerman | yes, demo it | 20:41 |
| blogan | but we discussed demo'ing what has been done versus what we realy want in the end | 20:42 |
| blogan | which isn't done, just some mock up images | 20:42 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: I'm still trying to understand: Is that so we don' t piss of people who worked on the old dashboard? | 20:42 |
| blogan | multiple listeners | 20:42 |
| sbalukoff | Oh! | 20:42 |
| sbalukoff | Right. | 20:42 |
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| blogan | ok just to be clear, the neutron-lbaas-dashboard repo is for v2, and the dashboard that has in it does not support multiple listeners on a load balancer? | 20:43 |
| blogan | xgerman: ^^ | 20:43 |
| xgerman | it supports them in a convoluted way + but leaves barbican out, etc. | 20:43 |
| sbalukoff | I'm confused, but I don't think I'm helping to clarify anything, so I'll shut up for once. | 20:43 |
| blogan | xgerman: yeah so we discussed in our hangout not showing that but just shwoing what we wanted the end product to look like | 20:43 |
| xgerman | yep | 20:44 |
| rm_work | i am also confused T_T | 20:44 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: i'm trying to clear it up here too | 20:44 |
| rm_work | but we'll hash it out in our pre-meeting meeting? | 20:44 |
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| sbalukoff | Yeah-- let's hash it out then. | 20:44 |
| xgerman | well, we have mocks of what we think it should look like | 20:44 |
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| xgerman | and we have some reality which works well for eBay... | 20:44 |
| johnsom | Well, the next meeting is for the lab. So, if it's going in the slides we need to decide now | 20:44 |
| blogan | well my point is, i think it woudl be a bit slap in the face to not show what the people who worked on the current v2 dashboard, and show mock ups of something we havent even worked on | 20:44 |
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| blogan | we can talk about this afetr the meeting to move everyting else along | 20:45 |
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| blogan | but would like a decision today | 20:45 |
| sbalukoff | Actually, what else do people want to discuss now? | 20:45 |
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| xgerman | yeah, i think we had nothing else anyway | 20:46 |
| sbalukoff | I've said my two bits... so if we can hash this out now, it sounds like it might be worthwhile in preparation for the meeting later today. | 20:46 |
| xgerman | well, I am fine with showing the eBay stuff — wouldn’t be the first time we demo that ;-) | 20:46 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: +1 | 20:46 |
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| johnsom | blogan I hear you on that. Is there a way we can show what's in the repo and then some WIP content? Do a dance? | 20:47 |
| xgerman | +! | 20:47 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: +1 | 20:47 |
| blogan | okay | 20:47 |
| sbalukoff | If ultimately we plan on scrapping the UI work that ebay has done we should be honest about that. | 20:47 |
| xgerman | well, it needs to be angularJS one day | 20:48 |
| xgerman | that’s just the way Horizon rolls | 20:48 |
| sbalukoff | But it also goes to show-- any operator / vendor can develop their own UI for this stuff if they want. In theory, the UI should only be manipulating APIs on the back-end anyway. | 20:48 |
| rm_work | lol | 20:48 |
| rm_work | well the ebay work is v1 | 20:48 |
| rm_work | so.... | 20:48 |
| sbalukoff | I know that IBM built their own UI against lbaasV1. | 20:48 |
| rm_work | right? | 20:48 |
| blogan | no its v2 | 20:48 |
| xgerman | nope, they gave us a v2 | 20:48 |
| sbalukoff | and I'm now putting the screws on them to update it to v2. | 20:48 |
| rm_work | I mean, Rackspace uses our own UI entirely | 20:48 |
| xgerman | which looks like their v1 | 20:48 |
| rm_work | it's pretty obvious it is possible to roll your own | 20:49 |
| blogan | https://github.com/openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard | 20:49 |
| sbalukoff | So, framed that way: "Operators or Vendors may develop their own UI. Here are a couple examples." | 20:49 |
| sbalukoff | It doesn't seem like a slap in the face to ebay. | 20:49 |
| xgerman | yep, and does that actually work? | 20:49 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: that works | 20:49 |
| rm_work | yeah | 20:49 |
| rm_work | ^^ are there screenshots for that UI | 20:49 |
| rm_work | their docs link is broken | 20:49 |
| rm_work | and I don't see any in the README | 20:50 |
| rm_work | do I have to install it to see examples? :/ | 20:50 |
| xgerman | well, last time we check that UI creating a load balancer didn’t work but I have been told it has now been fixed | 20:50 |
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| sbalukoff | Ultimately, I'm guessing there will probably be a 'reference UI' of some kind. But I kind of doubt that anyone here ultimately is going to be using it primarily. | 20:50 |
| xgerman | the mock-ups are just vaporware at that point | 20:50 |
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| xgerman | and the eBay, IBM people approached us for design guidance... | 20:51 |
| sbalukoff | After all, when it comes to UI, our marketing people start to care. ;) | 20:51 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: Haha! Awesome! | 20:51 |
| blogan | well my concern is just ignoring any work people put into the current v2 dashboard | 20:52 |
| xgerman | agreed, we should try to show both | 20:52 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: I don't think we have to ignore it. We can showcase it and the one we also plan to build in a positive light. | 20:52 |
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| johnsom | WIP is to be expected in OpenStack, so I think we give credit to work done and talk about WIP ideas floating around. | 20:52 |
| blogan | i appreciate any work we get from anyone, especially when its done with horizon which we've all kind of stayed away from like the plague | 20:53 |
| sbalukoff | Agreed. | 20:53 |
| xgerman | agreed. | 20:53 |
| xgerman | yeah, I think we agree | 20:53 |
| blogan | okay i like sbalukoff's ideas | 20:53 |
| sbalukoff | Ok, everyone, you heard it here first! | 20:53 |
| sbalukoff | I'm so quoting that. | 20:53 |
| * xgerman had to read that twice | 20:53 | |
| johnsom | blogan is ill | 20:53 |
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| johnsom | bad lunch truck day? | 20:54 |
| xgerman | truck towed? | 20:54 |
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| * blogan is tired | 20:55 | |
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| johnsom | Ok, just a reminder, summit lab hangout in an hour and a half 3:30 pacific | 20:55 |
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| sbalukoff | johnsom: Thanks! | 20:56 |
| sballe | What's the hangout link? | 20:56 |
| johnsom | #link https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hpe.com/summit | 20:56 |
| sballe | thx | 20:56 |
| sbalukoff | Sweet! | 20:56 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:56 |
| ajmiller | Also, what is the groupme info? | 20:56 |
| xgerman | groupme is an app you need to install on your phone | 20:57 |
| sbalukoff | rm_work: Can you add ajmiller? | 20:57 |
| xgerman | will send you an invite | 20:57 |
| ajmiller | I've got the app | 20:57 |
| sbalukoff | Awesome. | 20:57 |
| ajmiller | ok | 20:57 |
| rm_work | yeah anyone can invite | 20:57 |
| sbalukoff | Oh, handy! | 20:57 |
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| sbalukoff | The more you know. | 20:57 |
| sbalukoff | (The less annoying you might be.) | 20:57 |
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| sbalukoff | ;) | 20:57 |
| rm_work | https://media3.giphy.com/media/Y2nbrJyAR6RiM/200_s.gif | 20:58 |
| sbalukoff | Anything else to discuss? | 20:58 |
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| xgerman | #endmeeting | 20:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 21 20:59:04 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-10-21-20.00.html | 20:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-10-21-20.00.txt | 20:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-10-21-20.00.log.html | 20:59 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks, folks! | 20:59 |
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| sballe | bye | 20:59 |
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