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| ndipanov | hello - any sriov people around interested in going through patches and bugs quickly? | 13:00 |
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| dprince | #startmeeting tripleo | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 16 14:00:46 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dprince. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 14:00 |
| d0ugal | o/ | 14:01 |
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| dprince | whos here for a meeting? | 14:01 |
| marios | hello | 14:01 |
| akrivoka | hello | 14:01 |
| rbrady | hello | 14:01 |
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| trown | o. | 14:02 |
| shardy | o/ | 14:03 |
| jdob | o/ | 14:03 |
| dprince | #topic agenda | 14:03 |
| dprince | * bugs | 14:03 |
| dprince | * Projects releases or stable backports | 14:03 |
| dprince | * CI | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:03 | |
| dprince | * Specs | 14:03 |
| dprince | * one off agenda items | 14:03 |
| dprince | * open discussion | 14:03 |
| dprince | normal agenda... anything new to add this week speficically? | 14:04 |
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| dprince | okay, lets get started then | 14:05 |
| dprince | #topic bugs | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:05 | |
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| dprince | Several bugs earlier this week effected or related to CI outages | 14:06 |
| dprince | most have been closed I think | 14:06 |
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| dprince | any other bugs to highlight this week? | 14:07 |
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| trown | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1542486 is still keeping us from moving trunk | 14:07 |
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| trown | although there are now other issues blocking that, one of which is not even triaged yet | 14:08 |
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| bnemec | o/ | 14:08 |
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| dprince | trown: will that undercloud patch pass CI then? should we recheck it? | 14:09 |
| trown | dprince: it cant pass without removing the puppet-nova pin | 14:09 |
| trown | dprince: I was using https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278553/ to test it, but I think now we have new issues | 14:09 |
| trown | s/think/know/ | 14:10 |
| dprince | trown: okay, so could we do this. Update tripleo-ci to cherry pick this solution in, and remove the pin at the same time | 14:10 |
| dprince | trown: then we go back and land your instack undercloud solution | 14:10 |
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| trown | dprince: it is all more tangled than that... we need newer nova too, hence testing with a review that removes delorean pin and puppet pin at the same time | 14:11 |
| trown | with depends-on on the fixes | 14:11 |
| dprince | trown: sure, lets just do it all in a tripleo-ci patch. I'm fine cherry picking whatever... | 14:11 |
| dprince | trown: also, rather than go direct for 'current' it might be nice to use another stable link to some hash/uuid'd repo | 14:12 |
| trown | ok, I will put something up once I get the current issue triaged, not much point until we have a patch for that | 14:12 |
| dprince | trown: cool, thanks for the updates | 14:13 |
| trown | dprince: ya, but which? :) | 14:13 |
| trown | that is the hard part when it has been so long | 14:13 |
| dprince | trown: how about today, any of them | 14:13 |
| dprince | trown: don't care, just needs to pass | 14:13 |
| trown | oh, I see, so we dont keep chasing our tail with new breakages | 14:13 |
| trown | just keep testing against the same thing | 14:13 |
| dprince | trown: yes | 14:13 |
| trown | dprince: cool will do | 14:14 |
| dprince | cool, lets move on | 14:14 |
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| dprince | #topic CI | 14:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:14 | |
| dprince | CI seems to be running fine mostly | 14:14 |
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| shardy | master CI looks much better, but there are still a lot of failures on stable/liberty | 14:14 |
| dprince | other than not being able to bump our pin on master | 14:14 |
| bnemec | Erm, CI looks stuck right now to me. | 14:15 |
| dprince | shardy: any bugs that need attention for stable CI? | 14:15 |
| bnemec | The top of the zuul queue has been waiting for almost 12 hours. | 14:15 |
| dprince | bnemec: oh? | 14:15 |
| shardy | dprince: not sure, I've been out for a couple of days so just catching up, but I assume we're missing some backports for stable that fix the issues | 14:16 |
| bnemec | dprince: http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ | 14:16 |
| bnemec | Nothing is running AFAICT. | 14:16 |
| shardy | the patches I looked at were failing pingtest for various reasons, e.g nova failing to spawn the VM | 14:16 |
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| dprince | bnemec: okay, thanks | 14:17 |
| dprince | okay, it shoulds like we have a CI outage. Would be nice to indicate the number of queued jobs on our tripleo.org CI status page too :/ | 14:17 |
| trown | I have this in my logs from last night | 14:17 |
| trown | [20:05:03] <greghaynes> slagle: ohai | 14:17 |
| trown | [20:05:09] <greghaynes> slagle: Your CI is broken (see -infra) | 14:17 |
| trown | [20:05:15] <greghaynes> slagle: https://ci-overcloud.rh1.tripleo.org:13000/v2.0 | 14:17 |
| trown | [20:05:28] <greghaynes> that refers to localhost which causes nodepool to try and auth against localhost | 14:17 |
| marios | shardy: slagle fixup up the "overcloud heat isn't available on pingtest" yesterday with a ci review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/279894/ which may have helped somehow (at least it got a green run for the mido stable/liberty heat templates) | 14:18 |
| marios | s/fixup/fixed | 14:18 |
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| shardy | marios: ack, thanks - the patches I saw weren't that issue but nova errors, will check the latest results after that fix tho | 14:19 |
| slagle | yea i was on last night and infra was pinging us about our cloud | 14:19 |
| slagle | i dont have any more details, i tried to login and look, but i can't seem to login to the ci cloud any longer | 14:19 |
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| dprince | I will look into this after the meeting | 14:19 |
| marios | regardless of any issues ci is having today, there will likely be a big backlog of stable/liberty (which couldn't land for a while cos ci) so the load may/not be helping here | 14:20 |
| dprince | slagle: in the future please email derek and myself if infra pokes you about an outage | 14:20 |
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| slagle | dprince: well i just happened to be on, and didn't have time to send an email as well | 14:20 |
| dprince | slagle: as for access, perhaps poke will foster | 14:20 |
| slagle | no one else was on | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | do we have monitoring? | 14:21 |
| dprince | EmilienM: no | 14:21 |
| dprince | EmilienM: we need it | 14:21 |
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| slagle | dprince: i'd sync with infra about who to contact about the ci cloud and issues they are having | 14:21 |
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| slagle | dprince: and how you'd like for them to do that | 14:21 |
| dprince | slagle: they probably just reach out to those online at the time | 14:21 |
| dprince | i.e. come into #tripleo and mention it | 14:22 |
| slagle | yep | 14:22 |
| EmilienM | dprince: we can talk about monitoring in a separated topic or offline or ML but I'm interested to help here | 14:22 |
| dprince | EmilienM: sure, keep in mind we want to re-spin our CI cloud entirely. And if that effort includes monitoring then it would be great too | 14:23 |
| dprince | EmilienM: we are using a quite an old release ATM for our CI cloud | 14:23 |
| dprince | anyways, lets move on. We can diagnose the CI outage later I think | 14:23 |
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| dprince | #topic Projects releases or stable backports | 14:24 |
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| apetrich | I have a question | 14:24 |
| dprince | any stable branch updates this week | 14:24 |
| dprince | apetrich: ? | 14:24 |
| apetrich | sorry still in CI this bug was closed and reopened https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1295914 | 14:24 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1295914 in rhel-osp-director "rhel-osp-director: Try to deploy oc 7.2 with netiso, from uc 8.0, fails right away with: Resource CREATE failed: resources.Networks: Property error: resources.StorageMgmtNetwork.properties.StorageMgmtNetValueSpecs: Value must be a string" [High,On_qa] - Assigned to hbrock | 14:24 |
| apetrich | it is about backwards compatibility for 8 and 7.3 | 14:25 |
| marios | apetrich: looks like you didn't set the storage environment? | 14:25 |
| shardy | dprince: I started a thread on stable branch policy for Mitaka on openstack-dev | 14:26 |
| dprince | shardy: ++, I will reply | 14:26 |
| shardy | would be good to get input there so we can agree the plan and announce our FF deadline etc | 14:26 |
| trown | +1 thanks for getting that rolling shardy | 14:27 |
| apetrich | marios, I can look at it cheers | 14:27 |
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| marios | apetrich: am not sure, but the original description says "--ceph-storage-scale 1" but no storage env specified afaics, and then steps to reproduce doesn't . i should take a closer look | 14:27 |
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| apetrich | marios, I have a poc job for uploading of 7 overcloud image into a 8 undercloud I can give you access to the machine | 14:29 |
| apetrich | marios, we can talk later | 14:29 |
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| dprince | okay, well lets save any thoughts for stable barnches for the email thread | 14:29 |
| marios | ack apetrich | 14:29 |
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| dprince | #topic specs | 14:29 |
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| rbrady | I have a spec for the mistral integration at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280407 | 14:30 |
| dprince | rbrady: nice, thanks for posting that | 14:31 |
| dprince | I'm starting to get some feedback on pluggable services again | 14:32 |
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| dprince | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245804/ | 14:32 |
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| dprince | slagle: could you boil down your concerns into a couple sentances that we might discuss here? | 14:33 |
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| dprince | slagle: is it primarily the fact that we concatonate the puppet manifests taht you don't like? | 14:34 |
| slagle | sure | 14:34 |
| slagle | i'm not stricitly opposed to the concatenation in and of itself | 14:34 |
| slagle | more about what the implementation implies | 14:35 |
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| slagle | so, if i wanted to use our puppet api services, and a 3rd party api service | 14:35 |
| dprince | slagle: the implementation strives to make it so that a "service architect" (i.e. a team focussed on trove, or sahara) can cleanly integrate their service without looking at the rest of the manifest | 14:35 |
| slagle | i'd have to do the 3rd party one in puppet, within the limitation that the puppet manifest would be concatenated with the others | 14:36 |
| dprince | slagle: this spec doesn't change the fact that we use Puppet for our configuration with t-h-t at this point | 14:36 |
| slagle | and i think that's too restrictive of a framework | 14:36 |
| dprince | slagle: I think that is a high bar to set for this pass. And there are consequences too | 14:37 |
| slagle | i dont think we have to solve this in the first pass | 14:37 |
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| EmilienM | wait, I thought the spec was just about decomposing THT manfiests into smaller manifests in puppet-tripleo or in hieradata directly, like glance | 14:37 |
| slagle | but i would like to define the framework/interface that we would eventually like to get to | 14:37 |
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| slagle | i dont feel like i know what direction this first step is even going | 14:38 |
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| slagle | if it's clear to everyone but me, i'll dig into it a bit more and figure it out | 14:38 |
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| slagle | it just seemed non-obvious what the end goal was | 14:38 |
| dprince | slagle: sure. I thought we had more concensus on this from a few weeks ago before devconf (in Brno). Seems like that discussion only confused the issues? | 14:39 |
| slagle | there's soem mention of developing frameworks and interfaces for composability, but no definition of what those are | 14:39 |
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| dprince | slagle: the spec oulines 7 steps, plus a pre and post step | 14:40 |
| marios | slagle: given the goal is 3rd party service integration, ideally would be nice to see an example of what it looks like this way, i.e. what dprince is suggesting with some existing reviews and the spec itself | 14:40 |
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| dprince | slagle: that is the interface which would fit into our existing architecture quite nicely | 14:40 |
| dprince | FWIW I demo'ed this in tokyo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237370/ | 14:41 |
| dprince | That is glance-api and glance-registry split out into this architecture | 14:41 |
| slagle | dprince: if we focus on just the 7 steps, then i think the interface can be defined as puppet snippets for each step that are all concatenated together and run as one at each step | 14:41 |
| slagle | and personally i think that's too restrictive of a framework | 14:42 |
| dprince | slagle: yes, that is the interface | 14:42 |
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| dprince | slagle: the architecture of t-h-t puppet is someone influenced by previous installers like Spinal Stack, etc. | 14:42 |
| EmilienM | that's wrong | 14:43 |
| dprince | slagle: With DIB tripleo previously we had a single pass per role. os-collect-config runs once | 14:43 |
| EmilienM | in spinalstack we had a composable composition layer | 14:43 |
| dprince | slagle: and does everything | 14:43 |
| EmilienM | something that is not in tripleo | 14:43 |
| dprince | EmilienM: ++ I said influenced. please wait just a second | 14:43 |
| EmilienM | https://github.com/redhat-cip/puppet-openstack-cloud/tree/master/manifests | 14:43 |
| shardy | It's somewhat difficult to fully define a "plugin" API until we decompose the current monolithic model IMO - I see the work proposed by dprince as just the first step down that path | 14:43 |
| EmilienM | the link I posted is something composable | 14:43 |
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| slagle | i guess the use case i'm thinking of is if i had a service written in bash, or soem locally applied ansible playbooks and wanted those executed alongside the puppet ones | 14:44 |
| dprince | With t-h-t we are trying to have a stepwise architecture (not like DIB which was single pass). So step1 executes on all the roles. | 14:44 |
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| slagle | and i'd envinsion where i wrote my templates, and just wrote out the softwraedeployments for 7 steps for my custom service | 14:44 |
| slagle | and that integrated cleanly alongside all the puppet stuff | 14:44 |
| slagle | so if i still wanted to run the puppet api services alongside my own, i could | 14:44 |
| slagle | that's the use case i'm thinking of anyway | 14:45 |
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| slagle | instead of having to bolt my bash or ansible thing on at the end via ExtraConfig | 14:45 |
| slagle | i'd like to use the service interface | 14:45 |
| dprince | The initial vision was using stepwise execution. Step 1 on all the roles, then a cluster wide validation to make sure it works. Something like this (which we never landed) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174150/ | 14:46 |
| dprince | Step 2 -> Then a step 2 cluster wide validation | 14:46 |
| slagle | and have it be more or less opaque to the the templates making up the framework what the actual implementation is | 14:46 |
| dprince | slagle: we do have ExtraConfig templates for some things in t-h-t that allow for some pluggablity in what you are asking | 14:46 |
| slagle | as is, the restriction is that it must be puppet, it must play nice when concatenated with all the other steps at the same sequence | 14:46 |
| dprince | slagle: and I think it would be totally reasonable to add to our interfaces in the future | 14:47 |
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| dprince | slagle: I'm not restricting any future additions to the heat templates, rather I'm solving a problem with have with the puppet implementation today. Namely that it is monolithic | 14:47 |
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| EmilienM | that won't help much, but I thought it would be useful to share. I wrote a small tool with ansible to compose puppet hieradata and deploy openstack in a composable way https://github.com/EmilienM/ansible-marionette | 14:47 |
| dprince | slagle: if we don't take this first step (of splitting things up) we can't move forwards | 14:48 |
| dprince | slagle: what I'm saying is, lets iterate towards these things. We can refine our interfaces in the years to come. But what I'm trying to solve here is service pluggability in puppet | 14:49 |
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| dprince | slagle: So if you look at my validations patch you'll notice it allows you to plug in a shell script between each deployment run. I think something like that is what you are talking about. If not perhaps you could throw up a patch which gives a demonstration of how you'd like to accomidate these extra interfaces in Heat? | 14:50 |
| dprince | Or perhaps we need to take this to the mailing list to discuss further. | 14:51 |
| slagle | i think that would be premature | 14:51 |
| shardy | I wonder if we can address the requirement expressed by slagle via encoding the config group in the per-service mapping: | 14:51 |
| slagle | i'm not trying to come up with patches, merely define what interfaces we are aiming for | 14:51 |
| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237370/7/puppet/roles/glance-api.yaml | 14:51 |
| slagle | so that there's agreement on that | 14:51 |
| shardy | e.g rather than just "config_step4: manifest" | 14:51 |
| marios | dprince: would it make sense to make the steps themselves pluggable, for example have a step4/5 (whichever corresponds to where neutron services are declared) for each neutron service provoider/intergration... we may have some duplication there though | 14:51 |
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| shardy | you'd have config_step4 contain e.g a "puppet" key or something | 14:52 |
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| shardy | then you have an interface we could potentially extend to also chain e.g scripts or whatever together | 14:52 |
| slagle | dprince: i think i am thinking too much about the problem description in the spec | 14:52 |
| dprince | slagle: sometimes having a patch helps people see your idea, and/or formulate it. That is all I'm saying | 14:52 |
| slagle | where as what (i think) you're saying is that the implementation isn't going to address a lot of that problem description | 14:52 |
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| slagle | it sounds like the problem description is "puppet manifests are monolithic" | 14:53 |
| slagle | or should be, rather | 14:53 |
| dprince | slagle: I had a section called "taking it a step further" (to truely composable roles). Would you like me to remove that language? | 14:53 |
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| marios | dprince: i mean change the values of the output in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236243/18/puppet/controller-config.yaml so we use the corresponding Step5 for example, for given integration | 14:54 |
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| slagle | dprince: it's more the previous 2 paragraphs tbh | 14:55 |
| dprince | marios, slagle, shardy: would you be interested in a video conference this week to speak on these issues then? | 14:55 |
| slagle | the 2nd paragraph talks about defining the interface | 14:56 |
| dprince | At this point I'm almost inclined to delete the spec and say we can just use patches (which may better explain my motivations than the spec does. | 14:56 |
| shardy | dprince: sure | 14:56 |
| slagle | and i think the implementation defines an interface i don't feel is flexible/pluggable enough | 14:56 |
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| dprince | slagle: it works, and is an iterative step forwards | 14:56 |
| slagle | sure, a call would be fine for me as well | 14:56 |
| marios_ | dprince: sorry, client dropped... yeah would be happy to join a call | 14:56 |
| shardy | It's kinda interesting looking at the fuel plugin interface btw - they have covered a lot of these same issues (deployment steps, dependencies between steps, running scripts vs puppet etc etc) | 14:57 |
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| dprince | okay, we are almost out of meeting time | 14:57 |
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| dprince | thanks everyone | 14:58 |
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| dprince | #endmeeting tripleo | 14:59 |
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| tmorin | hi everyone | 15:08 |
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| tmorin | hi doude matrohon pcarver timirnich | 15:09 |
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| timirnich | hi tmoring | 15:09 |
| timirnich | *tmorin | 15:09 |
| tmorin | #startmeeting bgpvpn | 15:09 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 16 15:09:50 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmorin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:09 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:09 |
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| matrohon | hi | 15:10 |
| tmorin | hi | 15:10 |
| tmorin | I have few things on my agenda for today: | 15:11 |
| tmorin | - doing a bugfix release on stable/liberty | 15:11 |
| tmorin | - doing a first release of stable/kilo | 15:11 |
| tmorin | - work in progress on bagpipe agent | 15:11 |
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| tmorin | do you see anything else ? | 15:11 |
| tmorin | #topic bugfix release for stable/liberty | 15:12 |
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| tmorin | I think we need to do one | 15:13 |
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| tmorin | there is one bagpipe fix, one odl fix, and the ODL support for router association, which aren't in the first pip release | 15:13 |
| tmorin | I think we just need to ask neutron stable maintainers to push the button | 15:13 |
| tmorin | comments ? | 15:13 |
| tmorin | matrohon, timirnich ? | 15:14 |
| matrohon | I think the odl fix has merged? | 15:14 |
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| tmorin | yes, it did, yesterday | 15:15 |
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| tmorin | ok, let's agree to do a release then | 15:17 |
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| tmorin | #action ask for a bugfix realease of stable/liberty | 15:18 |
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| tmorin | #undo | 15:18 |
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| tmorin | #action tmorin: ask for a bugfix realease of stable/liberty | 15:18 |
| tmorin | #topic relase of kilo branch ? | 15:18 |
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| tmorin | I was wondering if this is useful or not | 15:18 |
| tmorin | what do you think ? | 15:18 |
| tmorin | timirnich ? matrohon ? | 15:19 |
| matrohon | I'm interested if this is a need for OPNFV? | 15:19 |
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| matrohon | how does OPNFV SDNVPN consumes BGPVPN? | 15:20 |
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| tmorin | it points at a commit id | 15:21 |
| tmorin | and the target is now liberty anyways... | 15:21 |
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| matrohon | tmorin, ha ok, I was not aware of that! | 15:21 |
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| matrohon | so I'm not sure a release is needed for kilo... | 15:22 |
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| tmorin | I agree | 15:23 |
| tmorin | #agree we don't see a need yet to do a release of the backport/kilo branch | 15:23 |
| tmorin | #topic bagpipe driver agent update | 15:23 |
| matrohon | at least I'd like the contrail bug to be fixed before releasing | 15:23 |
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| tmorin | #undo | 15:23 |
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| tmorin | matrohon: link ? | 15:24 |
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| * matrohon seeking the link | 15:24 | |
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| matrohon | doude, do you have something publicly available ? | 15:25 |
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| matrohon | tmorin, the current implementation of the contrail driver seems buggy | 15:25 |
| matrohon | but the fix might be on the contrail side, not in the bgpvpn driver | 15:26 |
| matrohon | at least, this needs to be clarifies | 15:26 |
| matrohon | at least, this needs to be clarified | 15:26 |
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| tmorin | ok, let's follow up with doude when we can | 15:28 |
| tmorin | #info need to follow up on a possible contrail driver issue | 15:28 |
| tmorin | #topic bagpipe driver agent update | 15:28 |
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| tmorin | I'm working to cook an OVS L2 agent extension, to avoid having to extend the OVS agent in a hacky way | 15:29 |
| tmorin | I plan to have something ready for next week | 15:29 |
| tmorin | assuming the L2 extension agent API stabilises as expected | 15:29 |
| tmorin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267591 | 15:30 |
| matrohon | great news, looking forward to see you patch | 15:31 |
| tmorin | yes, I think the neutron-side work for the agent looks good | 15:31 |
| tmorin | we should be able to have something clean | 15:31 |
| tmorin | #topic open discussion | 15:32 |
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| tmorin | anything else ? | 15:32 |
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| matrohon | everybody can vote for the bgpvpn speech at austin : | 15:32 |
| matrohon | #link : https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/vote-for-speakers/presentation/7747 | 15:32 |
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| tmorin | yes, good idea ! | 15:35 |
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| tmorin | let's wrap up ? | 15:38 |
| tmorin | thanks guys | 15:38 |
| tmorin | talk to you next week | 15:38 |
| matrohon | thanks | 15:38 |
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| tmorin | #endmeeting | 15:38 |
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| hongbin | #startmeeting containers | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 16 16:02:57 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hongbin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:03 |
| dimtruck | o/ | 16:03 |
| wznoinsk | o/ | 16:03 |
| hongbin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2016-02-16_1600_UTC | 16:03 |
| hongbin | #topic Roll Call | 16:03 |
| wanghua | o/ | 16:03 |
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| muralia1 | o/ | 16:03 |
| Tango|2 | o/ | 16:03 |
| strigazi | o/ | 16:03 |
| levi_b | o/ | 16:03 |
| dane_leblanc | o/ | 16:03 |
| himanshu_garg | o/ | 16:03 |
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| rpothier | o/ | 16:03 |
| juggler | o/ | 16:03 |
| coreyob | o/ | 16:03 |
| rochaporto | o/ | 16:04 |
| hongbin | Thanks for joining the meeting dimtruck wznoinsk wanghua muralia1 Tango|2 strigazi levi_b dane_leblanc himanshu_garg rpothier juggler coolsvap|away rochaporto | 16:04 |
| eghobo | o/ | 16:04 |
| hongbin | #topic Announcements | 16:04 |
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| hongbin | 1) adrian_otto is travelling today, and may be unable to join us. Our pro-tem chair will be Hongbin. | 16:04 |
| hongbin | 2) Our midcycle meetup happens this week. You must RSVP to attend. | 16:04 |
| hongbin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Magnum/Midcycle Midcycle Meetup Details | 16:05 |
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| hongbin | Any other announcement from our team member? | 16:05 |
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| hongbin | #topic Review Action Items | 16:05 |
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| hongbin | 1) bradjones and adrian_otto to work on a demo of the Magnum UI for publication on the Magnum project wiki page. Status: In-Progress. | 16:06 |
| hongbin | Detail: Brad will be unable to attend today, but worked on this with adrian_otto last week. We expect to have most of the recording finished by the close of this week. | 16:06 |
| hongbin | 2) hongbin to create an etherpad for collaborative development of our NativeAPI wiki page | 16:06 |
| hongbin | Status: Complete | 16:06 |
| hongbin | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-native-api Collaboration on working draft | 16:07 |
| hongbin | It would be great if everyone to fresh their inputs there | 16:07 |
| thomasem | Hello | 16:07 |
| hongbin | We will discuss this topic in the midcyle | 16:07 |
| thomasem | o/ | 16:07 |
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| hongbin | thomasem: hi | 16:07 |
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| thomasem | Sorry I'm late to the party | 16:07 |
| hongbin | #topic Blueprint Review | 16:08 |
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| hongbin | Essential Blueprint Review | 16:08 |
| juggler | hey thomasem! | 16:08 |
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| hongbin | Let me parse the essential BPs | 16:08 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-tempest | 16:09 |
| hongbin | dimtruck: do you have any update? | 16:09 |
| dimtruck | all of the patches are closed | 16:09 |
| dimtruck | we can set this blueprint to completed | 16:09 |
| dimtruck | i couldn't get ahold of adrian to do that | 16:09 |
| dimtruck | not sure if anyone else has the powers | 16:09 |
| hongbin | dimtruck: marked it as implemented | 16:10 |
| dimtruck | you are awesome! thank you! | 16:10 |
| hongbin | dimtruck: np. Thanks for your work! It is amazing | 16:10 |
| dimtruck | :D | 16:11 |
| hongbin | Next one | 16:11 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-troubleshooting-guide | 16:11 |
| hongbin | Tango|2: do you have any update to share? | 16:11 |
| Tango|2 | Still pretty slow progress there | 16:11 |
| Tango|2 | Of the sections in the outline, 11 needs to start from scratch, 7 done or in progress | 16:11 |
| hongbin | Tango|2: ACK | 16:12 |
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| Tango|2 | If anyone has expertise in debugging, please jump in and help. | 16:12 |
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| hongbin | Yes, definitely. Docs is not a fun work, but it is required for the project | 16:13 |
| hongbin | Essential for a project to succeed | 16:13 |
| Tango|2 | And get user adoption | 16:13 |
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| hongbin | Any help on that would be greatly appreciated | 16:13 |
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| hongbin | OK. Next one | 16:14 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/user-guide | 16:14 |
| Tango|2 | Similarly, slow progress: | 16:14 |
| Tango|2 | 7 sections need to start from scratch, 7 sections are done, have existing doc, or in progress | 16:14 |
| hongbin | Tango|2: There are a few users asked for installation guide, does it cover in the user guide? | 16:15 |
| hongbin | or we need a new BP for that? | 16:15 |
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| Tango|2 | I think OpenStack has a general doc for this | 16:15 |
| Tango|2 | We should look to see how other projects do their installation guide and have it included in the general instruction | 16:16 |
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| Tango|2 | So I would guess we want a separate BP | 16:16 |
| hongbin | Tango|2: ACK | 16:16 |
| Tango|2 | I will follow up on this | 16:16 |
| hongbin | #action hongbin create a BP for creating an installation guide | 16:17 |
| hongbin | OK. Last BP | 16:17 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/resource-quota | 16:17 |
| hongbin | Vilobh didn't show up in roll call | 16:18 |
| hongbin | I guess we can skip it | 16:18 |
| hongbin | Any other Blueprints, Bugs, Specs, and other work items to be discussed as a team? | 16:18 |
| hongbin | silent... | 16:19 |
| hongbin | #topic Open Discussion | 16:19 |
| dimtruck | :) | 16:19 |
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| dimtruck | i think people are excited to have these discussions in person | 16:20 |
| hongbin | definitely. Midcyle will be on this week | 16:20 |
| wanghua | should Magnum add some operational features for COE | 16:20 |
| hongbin | wanghua: please elaborate | 16:21 |
| wanghua | for example, collect logs, upgrade COE, modify configuration for COE | 16:21 |
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| Tango|2 | wanghua: Definitely. We need to shift focus from deployment to lifecycle operations | 16:21 |
| wanghua | I think these features are important in production. | 16:22 |
| Tango|2 | These are more important for cloud providers | 16:22 |
| dimtruck | we sort of are adding this in some places already (copying logs on error, for example) but it'd be nice to have it as part of a project | 16:22 |
| dimtruck | so definite +1 | 16:22 |
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| Tango|2 | Is this subject already on the schedule for the midcycle? | 16:23 |
| coreyob | +1 on lifecycle of the COE. For providers, being able to apply updates or configuration changes to address bugs and security issues as they arise is critical | 16:23 |
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| hongbin | It looks managing lifecycle of COE is a consesus | 16:24 |
| dimtruck | Tango|2: it's not | 16:24 |
| Tango|2 | I think on day 2, at 10-11 | 16:24 |
| wanghua | So we should add it into the midcycle agenda | 16:24 |
| dimtruck | yup :), you're right | 16:24 |
| dimtruck | 10:00 - 11:00 Operational Concerns: Handling Running Bays | 16:24 |
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| hongbin | Great! | 16:25 |
| Tango|2 | Operational concerns: we should brainstorm and list the operations needed | 16:25 |
| hongbin | Tango|2: +1 | 16:25 |
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| hongbin | Tango|2: we could do that in the midcycle | 16:26 |
| Tango|2 | Sounds good | 16:26 |
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| dimtruck | i updated some of the things that wanghua brought up | 16:27 |
| dimtruck | but yeah, we can go from there | 16:27 |
| hongbin | dimtruck: thx | 16:27 |
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| juggler | any info yet on the Google hangout link for remote participation? | 16:28 |
| hongbin | juggler: not sure from me | 16:29 |
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| juggler | ok just wondering | 16:29 |
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| hongbin | Maybe we could take a look at the midcycle agenda here | 16:30 |
| hongbin | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-mitaka-midcycle-topics | 16:30 |
| hongbin | Is everyone happy on this agenda? | 16:31 |
| hongbin | Please feel to advice if anything needs to be fixed | 16:31 |
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| dimtruck | juggler: from what i understand, they won't know until they check the rooms and the feasibility of having remote participation | 16:31 |
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| thomasem | Ahhh, okay | 16:32 |
| thomasem | that makes sense | 16:32 |
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| Tango|2 | I guess as long as there is external internet connection, we should be able to set up a web session | 16:32 |
| juggler | dimtruck ok. if they can update the meetup page as more info arises then: http://www.meetup.com/openstack/events/224950334/ | 16:32 |
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| juggler | perhaps an agenda entry is needed as a gentle reminder to do so? | 16:33 |
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| hongbin | juggler: added a session in the etherpad | 16:35 |
| hongbin | we can update the session once we have further information | 16:35 |
| juggler | hongbin: thanks! | 16:35 |
| hongbin | Any other item our team members want to discuss? | 16:36 |
| hongbin | If none, we could wrap up earlier | 16:36 |
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| dimtruck | not from me :) excited for what comes out of the midcycle :) | 16:37 |
| hongbin | ya | 16:37 |
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| juggler | :) | 16:37 |
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| hongbin | Hi adrian_otto | 16:37 |
| adrian_otto | hi, thanks. | 16:37 |
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| hongbin | adrian_otto: we are in an open discussion | 16:37 |
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| adrian_otto | ok | 16:38 |
| hongbin | adrian_otto: we discussed the remote session in the midcycle | 16:38 |
| hongbin | adrian_otto: do you have any information? | 16:38 |
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| adrian_otto | not yet. | 16:40 |
| hongbin | adrian_otto: ack | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | is Tom present in this meeting? | 16:40 |
| hongbin | he didn't show up in roll call | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | he may be traveling today also. | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | I'll check in with him, and the person assisting him to sort that out. if you plan to attend remotely, please RSVP on eventbrite as a remote. | 16:41 |
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| adrian_otto | and I'll be sure to email all of you participation information, and post it on the Midcycle wiki page. | 16:41 |
| juggler | thanks | 16:42 |
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| hongbin | adrian_otto: thank you. I guess we are close to wrap up right now. Any other information you would like to share? | 16:43 |
| thomasem | Think we're all ready to get in a room and talk at eachother. | 16:43 |
| thomasem | :) | 16:43 |
| thomasem | in person | 16:43 |
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| Tango|2 | How many are planning to come? | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | yes, I look forward to seeing many of you this week. | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | a dozen have entered RSVP | 16:45 |
| adrian_otto | for in-person. I did not look at remotes yet. | 16:45 |
| hongbin | cool | 16:45 |
| Tango|2 | Nice,a good group. | 16:45 |
| juggler | looks like 200+ for remote | 16:45 |
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| juggler | 250+ correction | 16:45 |
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| adrian_otto | you must be kidding | 16:46 |
| juggler | http://www.meetup.com/openstack/events/224950334/ | 16:46 |
| thomasem | Whoa | 16:46 |
| coreyob | apparently bots like magnum? | 16:46 |
| juggler | people might've just clicked RSVP but might not show up :) | 16:46 |
| juggler | hard to say | 16:46 |
| juggler | hope there's e-swag lol ;) | 16:47 |
| adrian_otto | we have 12 in person and 2 registered as remotes | 16:47 |
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| adrian_otto | that's about right… as the remotes tend to register the day of. | 16:47 |
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| adrian_otto | oh, that's in addition to the Midcyle event | 16:48 |
| coreyob | oh that meetup is the openstack meetup, not the midcycle. got it | 16:48 |
| adrian_otto | that will actually be havily attended | 16:48 |
| juggler | ah | 16:48 |
| adrian_otto | yes, an audience of 200+ is possible there. | 16:48 |
| adrian_otto | the OpenStack group in the bay area has nearly 6000 members in it. | 16:49 |
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| adrian_otto | thanks hongbin for running today's team meeting. I really appreciate it. | 16:50 |
| hongbin | adrian_otto: my pleasure | 16:50 |
| hongbin | Let's wrap up then | 16:50 |
| hongbin | #endmeeting | 16:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 16 16:50:57 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-02-16-16.02.html | 16:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-02-16-16.02.txt | 16:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-02-16-16.02.log.html | 16:51 |
| juggler | thanks all | 16:51 |
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| sergmelikyan | #startmeeting murano | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 16 17:02:42 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sergmelikyan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:02 |
| kzaitsev_mb | \o | 17:02 |
| * sergmelikyan is slowpoke today | 17:03 | |
| enthurohini | \o | 17:03 |
| sergmelikyan | o/ | 17:03 |
| freerunner | heya ;) | 17:03 |
| * sergmelikyan feeling rebellious :D | 17:03 | |
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| kzaitsev_mb | (= | 17:04 |
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| sergmelikyan | #topic Action Items | 17:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action Items (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:05 | |
| sergmelikyan | #1 sergmelikyan ask community about the potential interest for having a midcycle meetup? | 17:05 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I actually think it's almost too late for mid-cycle ) | 17:05 |
| kzaitsev_mb | m3 seems just around the corner | 17:05 |
| sergmelikyan | unfortunately I was unable to convince Mirantis to organize this event for this cycle :( | 17:06 |
| sergmelikyan | kzaitsev_mb: yep, and it's too late too ( | 17:06 |
| StanLagun | :( | 17:07 |
| StanLagun | We still have a lot to discuss. Summit is not always the best place for design sessions | 17:08 |
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| sergmelikyan | Agree - there are also discussion in ML regarding this | 17:08 |
| sergmelikyan | looks like a lot's of folks thinks same | 17:08 |
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| StanLagun | If it's too late for mid-cycle we could call it enc-cycle-meetup :) | 17:09 |
| StanLagun | end-cycle* | 17:09 |
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| sergmelikyan | StanLagun: issues is not that it's too late :) issue is who is going to host, and who will pay for attendance :) | 17:10 |
| sergmelikyan | #2 kzaitsev_mb ask kolla folks about murano-glare plugin situation | 17:10 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I haven't finished mine AI too =( Just checked that kolla folks have their weekly meeting tomorrow — would probably crush there tomorrow | 17:10 |
| kzaitsev_mb | Have just added it to my schedule | 17:11 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #action kzaitsev_mb ask kolla folks about murano-glare plugin situation | 17:14 |
| kzaitsev_mb | rescheduling, since I haven't finished it | 17:14 |
| sergmelikyan | #3 freerunner will check how complex is to add bashate job on murano-apps\ | 17:14 |
| freerunner | sergmelikyan: Looks like it should be not really hard. | 17:15 |
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| freerunner | sergmelikyan: We have a good example, how to run bashate (in devstack), so, it means, that we already have a template. | 17:16 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | yep, there are no shellcheck templates sadly, but there are bashhate templates in project-config already =) | 17:16 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | so it should be pretty trivial to enable it in murano-apps I guess | 17:17 |
| freerunner | sergmelikyan: Agreed with kzaitsev_mb | 17:18 |
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| sergmelikyan | freerunner: cool ) | 17:21 |
| freerunner | sergmelikyan: So, we can do it ;) | 17:21 |
| sergmelikyan | freerunner: never had any concerns regarding can we do it or not :D | 17:21 |
| sergmelikyan | we actually don't have any concrete topics for today :) | 17:22 |
| sergmelikyan | #topic Open Discussion | 17:22 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | Well, just for the record I can post a link to my app-cat patch | 17:23 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276857/ | 17:23 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | if you know something about glare — I invite you to take a look at it, especially murano-asset section =) | 17:23 |
| kzaitsev_mb | enthurohini: any progress on osc integration? | 17:24 |
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| ativelkov | kzaitsev_mb: I'll take a look, sure | 17:25 |
| enthurohini | yeah, implemented 4 commands with all optional arguments, | 17:25 |
| enthurohini | having some difficulties in testcases :P | 17:25 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | enthurohini: nice | 17:25 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | we have scheduled a release of client as soon as update from bot with yaql lands to our repos | 17:26 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | which is bound to happen soon ) | 17:26 |
| enthurohini | i was thinking to submit patch so that we both can discuss and solve the isues. what say? | 17:26 |
| kzaitsev_mb | enthurohini: please do | 17:26 |
| enthurohini | ok will do | 17:27 |
| kzaitsev_mb | even if it only has 4 commands — it would already be great to have them in. | 17:27 |
| enthurohini | ok, will submit tonight itself | 17:27 |
| kzaitsev_mb | let's polish those before moving on =) | 17:27 |
| enthurohini | yeah, was thinking same | 17:28 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I think, that after we have a couple of commands in — we would be able to draw some attention from our fellow contributors and split those across people =) | 17:29 |
| enthurohini | one more thing that, today i saw a patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280023 in which it changes the behaviour of rename command and some others too. And this thing was in my mind too. so updated my patch too | 17:29 |
| kzaitsev_mb | cool, nice that you keep an eye on those =) | 17:30 |
| enthurohini | yep :) | 17:30 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | ativelkov: thanks =) (just noted, that I ignored your comment completely =)) | 17:30 |
| kzaitsev_mb | *noticed | 17:31 |
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| enthurohini | kzaitsev_mb, can i ask whats the difference between mid-cycle meetings and design sessions | 17:34 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | enthurohini: well, some projects organise mid-cycle meetups to design how features are going to be implemented =) We had this idea for some time now, but as you can see — it's not happening this cycle =) | 17:36 |
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| enthurohini | ok, but design summits also has the same goal, i think | 17:36 |
| kzaitsev_mb | and design sessions — I believe Stan meant design summit's design sessions i.e. the ones that would happen in Austin ) | 17:36 |
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| enthurohini | ok, so in mid -cycle meetings, only mirantis folks take part | 17:37 |
| kzaitsev_mb | enthurohini: a lot of things happen ad design summit. mid-cycles are more focused on specific projects. and they're in between of the design summits ;) | 17:37 |
| kzaitsev_mb | enthurohini: nope, not only Mirantis folks, that's the point | 17:38 |
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| enthurohini | ok | 17:38 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | don't think there's anything else we could discuss today I guess ) | 17:45 |
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| sergmelikyan | guess so ) | 17:47 |
| sergmelikyan | #endmeeting | 17:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 16 17:47:11 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-02-16-17.02.html | 17:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-02-16-17.02.txt | 17:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-02-16-17.02.log.html | 17:47 |
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