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sgordon#startmeeting telcowg14:03
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb 24 14:03:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sgordon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:03
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'telcowg'14:03
sgordon#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda14:03
sgordon#roll call14:03
* sgordon guess regulars are likely at MWC...14:03
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dronshaw\14:04
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sgordondronshaw, howdy14:05
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sgordon#topic updates from product-wg mid-cycle14:05
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sgordona couple of updates to product wg process that are relevant for this group14:06
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sgordon#action sgordon Update your user stories to reflect the Appropriate roles; Review in the PWG team meeting14:06
sgordon#action cloudon Update your user stories to reflect the Appropriate roles; Review in the PWG team meeting14:06
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sgordon#info more info being added to default template on this14:06
sgordon#info repo and folder structure being adjusted for new/updated process - user stories will be submitted directly to 'proposed' folder in future14:07
sgordonaim of the above being to capture all discussion in gerrit14:07
sgordonpre-merge14:07
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sgordon#topic other discussion14:09
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sgordoni dont have a heap more beyond the above as i havent completed said updates to my own submissions yet :)14:09
dronshawfine by me :) seems you said most are likely at MWC. correct sgordon?14:10
sgordonim actually not14:10
sgordonbut basically everyone else is14:10
sgordonlol14:10
dronshawwell I wish I were in Barcelona as well!14:10
srwilkersthat would be nice ;)14:10
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sgordonwell, there is always the openstack summit ;)14:12
sgordonok on that basis i will call it for today14:12
dronshawi’ll be there :) couple months away14:12
dronshawsounds great, see ya next week14:12
sgordonthanks all for your time14:13
sgordon#end meeting14:13
sgordon#endmeeting14:13
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Feb 24 14:13:08 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)14:13
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2016/telcowg.2016-02-24-14.03.html14:13
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SwamiWe don't have DVR_Meeting today since we are in the Mid cycle meetup15:16
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rkukurahi ML2’ers!16:00
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yamamotohi16:00
Sukhdevhello16:01
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rkukuralets get started…16:01
rkukura#startmeeting networking_ml216:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb 24 16:01:50 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
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rkukura#topic Agenda16:02
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rkukura#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_February_24.2C_201616:02
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rkukura#topic Announcements16:03
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rkukuraonly think I have is that the neutron mid-cycle is going on this week16:04
rkukura#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-mitaka-midcycle16:04
iyamahathello16:04
rkukuraiyamahat: Hi - Do you have something for the agenda, or an announcement?16:05
iyamahatnothing from me16:05
rkukuraAny other announcements?16:05
rkukura#topic Open Agenda16:05
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rkukuraSukhdev added this to last week’s agenda to encourage people to bring up anything they’d like to discuss16:06
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Sukhdevin terms of announcement -16:07
rkukuraSukhdev: go ahead…16:07
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SukhdevI do not know if you are aware of the stadium inclusion discussion that is going on -16:07
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rkukuraI had seen at least some of that - has there been any conclusion?16:08
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Sukhdevi.e. which projects are in the neutron stadium and which are not16:08
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Sukhdevno conclusion yet - but, getting there16:08
Sukhdevcheck it out here - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281628/16:09
rkukuraIs there concensus that vendor-specific git repos would not be in the stadium?16:09
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Sukhdevthey will be all out16:11
Sukhdevthe contention is about the non-vendor repositories -16:12
Sukhdevsuch as ODL, OVN, L2GW, SFC, etc16:12
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rkukurawhat remains - potentially just advanced services?16:13
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Sukhdevyup16:14
Sukhdevif you look at the latest version of the patch - it has a list - which is very small16:14
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rkukuratbachman: hi16:15
tbachmanrkukura: hi!16:16
rkukuraSukhdev: thanks for bringing the stadium re-org up!16:17
Sukhdevnp16:17
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rkukuraI do see some advantage in “affiliated” projects being able to make more of their own decisions regarding stable branches, etc.16:17
rkukuraany other topics for “open agenda”?16:18
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rkukuraanyone starting to think about ML2-related design summit sessions yet?16:19
rkukuraI’d like to get some brainstorming on that going over the next few weeks in these meetings16:20
rkukura#topic Modular L2 agent update16:21
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rkukuraIs scheuran here?16:21
scheuranrkukura, hi sorry16:21
rkukuranp16:21
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rkukurado you have any update since last week?16:22
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scheurantalked to moshele today and we agreed to move the sriov agent over to the common agent framework if possible in Newton16:22
scheuranI mean we're evaluating it if it's possible16:23
scheuranother than that  - my macvtap ml2 driver has merged16:23
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scheuranagent already had 2*2+, but needed a rebase :(16:23
rkukurascheuran: great!16:23
scheuranso hopefully tomorrow...16:23
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scheuranregarding docs16:24
scheuranI started a ml2 section in the networking guide16:24
scheuranhttps://review.openstack.org/28234916:24
scheuranit was already there but without content16:24
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scheuranrkukura, Sukhdev, if you as ml2 experts could have a look that would be really great!16:24
scheuranof course everybody else can do as well :)16:25
scheuran#link https://review.openstack.org/28234916:25
Sukhdevscheuran : I will review it - thanks for the link16:25
rkukurascheuran: yes - thanks for the heads up - looks very useful16:25
scheuranSukhdev, rkukura, cool, thanks!16:26
rkukuraAnything else on modular L2 agent?16:26
scheuranno16:26
rkukurathanks scheuran16:26
scheuranwelcome!16:26
rkukura#topic Routed Networks16:27
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rkukura#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225384/16:27
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rkukuraI still haven’t had a chance to review recent updates of this in detail, but it does seem to be progressing16:28
rkukuraAnyone have any comments on it to bring up here?16:28
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rkukuraI notice a comment about making segments a 1st class API, which hopefully will also be useful for traditional multi-segment L2 networks as well16:30
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rkukuraThis really looks like it will have significant impact on ML2 - I encourage everyone who cares to review/comment16:32
rkukuraanything else on this?16:32
rkukuraif not…16:32
rkukura#topic Open Discussion16:33
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rkukuranot sure about the difference between “open agenda” and “open discussion”, but please feel free to bring up anything you’d like to discuss16:33
rkukuraotherwise, we’ll wrap up for today16:33
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rkukuraseems that’s it for today…16:34
rkukurathanks everyone!16:35
rkukura#endmeeting16:35
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yamamotothank you16:35
SukhdevThanks rkukura16:35
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mugsie#startmeeting Designate16:59
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb 24 16:59:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:59
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mugsie#topic Roll Call16:59
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rsyedo/16:59
federico3o/16:59
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mugsietimsim: elarson ekarlso- Kiall courtesy ping17:00
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pglasso/17:00
Kiallo/17:00
pglasstimsim is ooo today17:00
mugsiegive people a few mins to file in17:00
mugsieuseless17:00
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mugsie:)17:00
elarsono/17:00
ekarlso-pooong17:00
elarsonpooooooo17:00
mugsie#topic Action Items17:00
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mugsiekiall to BP 0022fd8 Ensure ZoneManager emits valid objects17:01
KiallStill TODO17:01
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mugsie#action kiall to BP 0022fd8 Ensure ZoneManager emits valid objects17:01
mugsie#action mugsie bp 24c957b17:01
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mugsie#action mugsie to look at bug/154643717:01
mugsiea bad week for it17:01
mugsieBug Triage (timsim - recurring)17:01
mugsie#topic Bug Triage (timsim - recurring)17:01
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mugsieI suppose I should do this :)17:02
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mugsiehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/151635517:02
openstackLaunchpad bug 1516355 in Designate ""RecordSet not found" while trying to update NS Pool" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Tim Simmons (timsim)17:02
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mugsieah, tim was looking at this17:02
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mugsiehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/154833117:02
openstackLaunchpad bug 1548331 in Designate "The zone records quota are not enforced" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Eric Larson (eric-larson)17:02
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KiallWas ^ not fixed?17:03
mugsieyeah17:03
mugsiewe had a CVE for that afaik17:03
mugsieelarson: ?17:03
Kiallelarson: is that still active?17:03
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mugsieok - we can come back to it when elarson is backj17:04
elarsonKiall:17:04
elarsonyes!17:04
elarsongeez17:04
Kialllol17:04
Kialltriming17:04
Kialltiming*17:04
elarsoncan't type17:04
mugsie:)17:04
elarsonyeah, I have some patches I'm  getting sorted out now17:05
mugsieok, then this is a critical , m317:05
Kiall++17:05
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elarsonbasically we check zone recordsets but not the zone records17:05
mugsieI could have sworn we fixed that17:05
mugsieok - cool that is all the bugs17:05
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elarsonpart of it yes, but not all recordsets17:06
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mugsie-_-17:06
mugsie#topci Stable Backport Triage (kiall - recurring)17:06
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mugsie#topic Stable Backport Triage (kiall - recurring)17:06
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mugsieme no typy well today17:06
Kiallhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/488053/ - as usual, take a few mins and nominate for backporting17:06
mugsieKiall:17:06
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mugsieb79cb7b Update Bind 9 backend and other documentation17:07
Kiallbe9d280 Merge "Fix V1 Quotas API Extension" - if it applies17:07
mugsieits part of the rename17:07
federico3mugsie: backporting those docs?17:07
mugsieyeah, they apply17:07
Kialldo we backport docs? they don't publish anywhere?17:07
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mugsiethey can be built by distros17:07
KiallWe've never considered them for backport before ;)17:07
mugsiewho can build from the stable branch17:07
federico3also, they would not be accurate for some stable branches17:07
mugsiewe are now :)17:07
mugsiefederico3: they would be acurate for liberty17:08
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federico3ok, I can do the backport for libert17:08
mugsiek17:08
federico3-y17:08
mugsieany others?17:08
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Kiallnope, not that I can see17:08
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mugsie#action federico3 bp b79cb7b Update Bind 9 backend and other documentation17:09
mugsie#topic Core Membership17:09
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mugsieok - we are running on a low amount of cores right now, and we need to increase the numbers17:09
mugsieI was going to do it all in meeting, but as one of rthe cores is not here I am going to send a mail to the -ml17:10
mugsiebut I would like to nominate elarson as our 4th17:10
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mugsiehttp://graham.hayes.ie/listings/designate-reviewstats.txt shows he has been an active reviewer, and the quality has been very good17:10
mugsie#link http://graham.hayes.ie/listings/designate-reviewstats.txt17:11
Kiall++ good reviews, sane code, but.. drives the wrong kinda fan17:11
mugsieelarson: you ok with that?17:11
Kiallvan*17:11
* elarson would love to be a core :)17:11
mugsiecool17:11
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mugsie#action mugsie sent core nominiation to the -ml17:11
mugsie#topic Designate/Neutron Integration Update (mlavalle - recurring)17:11
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mugsiemlavalle: around?17:11
mlavallehi there17:11
mugsiehello :)17:12
mlavalleover the past few days I added dns integration support to the neutron client: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282588/17:12
mlavalleI am attending the Neutron mid-cycle, so I have a lot of cores around me. We should merge this patchset this week17:13
mugsiesweet17:13
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mlavalleand I continue responding to reviews to the networking guide chapter: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280957/17:13
KiallCool, now if only I could find the star button on the new gerrit UI to come back to this later this eve -_-17:13
mugsieKiall: use gertty17:14
mugsie:D17:14
mlavallesame thing.... we should merge it soon17:14
mlavalleand that is all I have this week. We are getting to the end of this project :-)17:14
mugsiegreat17:14
mugsieit has been a long road17:15
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mugsieany questions?17:15
mugsieOK then17:15
Kiallgoing to be at aUSTIN SUMMIT?17:15
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mlavalleyes17:15
Kiall(so I can buy uou a beer or 3 ;))17:15
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Kiallwow, I can't typo17:15
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Kialltype17:15
mlavallelooking forward to it17:15
mlavalle:-)17:15
mugsieKiall: you can definitly typo ;)17:15
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KiallI'm going to shutup now.. lol17:16
mugsie#topic sonuk: tempest plugin implementation17:16
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mugsiesonuk seems to be afk17:16
mugsiebut there is a review17:16
mugsie#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283511/17:16
mugsiecan people review that - so we can let sonuk progress?17:17
mugsieI would be lookig at pglass and ekarlso- mainly17:17
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mugsieI would like your input17:17
ekarlso-ofc :)o17:17
pglasssure17:17
mugsie#topic pglass: tempest-lib being integrated back into tempest17:17
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mugsie#link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/qa-specs/specs/tempest/reintegrate-tempest-lib.html17:18
mugsiepglass: you have the floor :)17:18
KiallLOL. Really?17:18
pglassthey went through and -2'd all the reviews to tempest-lib today17:18
Kiall(facepalm)17:18
Kiall(all the work of moving to it, now back .. oh well)17:18
pglassthere's nothing immediate we have to do, because the pypi packages will stay there17:18
pglassmostly just for awareness17:19
mugsiecool. so new features will be landing in tempest.lib from now on?17:19
pglassyeah17:19
pglassand if we're moving those functional tests over to a tempest plugin, then eventually we'll stop using tempest-lib anyway17:19
mugsieOK.17:20
mugsiei feel like this should have been more of a cross project thing, but I may have missed it17:20
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* mugsie will look in his email17:20
pglassi only found out from the email notification from a -217:20
pglasson a tempest-lib review17:21
mugsienice17:21
mugsie#topic Open Discussion17:21
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mugsieany off agenda items?17:21
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mugsiegoing once17:22
mpbnkaI would like to have this reviewed https://blueprints.launchpad.net/designate/+spec/different-format-for-ipv4-and-ipv617:22
KiallNone from me17:22
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mpbnkaI have spec defined for this17:22
mpbnkahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/278999/17:22
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mugsieOK, I can review this week17:23
elarsonfwiw, I looked at that but wasn't sure the status of the sink.17:23
mugsiefor this cycle unchanged17:24
mpbnkaI would like to target this in m317:24
mugsiewe my see if there is a change in newton17:24
mugsieok17:24
mpbnkathe change I suggest are only in designate.conf and sink code17:24
mugsiethen we need to revie asap17:24
mugsieI may be able to grant a FFE for this as well, if needed17:25
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mugsiecan everyone have a look today / tomorrow?17:25
KiallSure17:25
mugsieok, anything else?17:26
mpbnkathanks17:26
mugsieOK - thanks everyone!17:26
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mugsie#endmeeting17:26
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amrith#startmeeting trove18:00
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pmackinno/18:00
amrithhi pete!18:00
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amrithpmackinn, while folks trickle in, did you read dougshelley66's blog post http://www.tesora.com/trove-midcycle-raleigh/18:01
amrithnice pic of the RedHat office18:01
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pmackinnamrith, dougshelley66: hey! real nice18:02
amrithand thanks much for hanging out with us while we were there.18:02
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pmalik\./18:02
amrithwill get started in a minute or two18:03
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pmackinn"I felt our trip to Raleigh was well worth the cost and time...but, frankly, could have been a lot warmer."18:03
amrithWell, we didn't want to say what we really felt. Being sold a bill of goods, etc., etc.,18:04
amrithbut, let's get started18:04
dougshelley66pmackinn hey you are paraphrasing...i never said that...18:04
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amrith#topic Trove pulse update18:04
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amrithSo, cp16net is out18:04
atomic77\\o18:04
amrithand I haven't figure out how to update the chart that he uses.18:05
* atomic77 pants18:05
amrithhe didn't get me write permission in time.18:05
amrithso our stats are a week old.18:05
peterstaco/18:05
dougshelley66any cp16net jr news>18:05
amrith#link      http://bit.ly/1VQyg0018:05
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amrithdougshelley66, no news18:05
amrithbut will be sure to share with the team as soon as I hear something.18:05
amrithI've seen a lot of new changes and some reviews go by.18:06
amrithbut we have a bunch more to do before we can get to m3.18:06
amrithwhich brings us to the next item18:06
amrith#topic Announcements18:06
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amrith#link      http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/086362.html18:06
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amrithSorry, wrong link18:07
amrith#link http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/schedule.html18:07
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amrithWe are almost at R-618:07
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amrithOn Feb 26, we have to cut the final version of all non-client libraries.18:07
amrithIn the last meeting, we discussed this briefly18:08
amrithand determined that we had horizon libraries18:08
amrithabramley, dloi, imandhan would some of you like to fill us in on where we are relative to this?18:08
amrithanyone18:09
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amrithimandhan, yt?18:09
imandhantyping18:09
amrithk, thx18:10
imandhanamrith I'm going to let my angular panel table display patch stay in WIP for this release18:10
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imandhanthe rest of the patches seem like they are in good shape18:10
imandhanfrom a quick glance at the list18:11
amrithimandhan, ok. wrt dashboard libraries for the current horizon dashboard, are we in good shape relative to that? is there something that we need to package up?18:11
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imandhanI'm not entirely sure about that, I can ask around and see what other projects are doing18:12
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imandhanI'll get back to you on that after the meeting18:12
amrithimandhan, thanks18:12
imandhannp18:12
dloiI think there are a couple of patches to go for the regular django stuff18:12
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amrithhi dloi, do you think they're in good shape/on track?18:13
amrithhow do we get this released and given to (whoever)18:13
dloione has some test failures on it18:13
amriththis relates to abramley's question that is later in the agenda, so we may as well move to that.18:13
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amrith     [abramley] Recently all of the trove horizon code was moved into a separate plugin - trove-dashboard. Who in the community is responsible for creating ubuntu, rhel etc packages for this trove-dashboard plugin and ensuring that it installs and plugs into horizon on the various platforms?18:14
abramleyYes - you touched on it above - we are all using trove-dashboard code from github - but at some point this needs to get packaged18:14
abramleyas deb / rpm etc for redhat, ubuntu suse etc18:14
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abramleySahara will have the same issue18:14
amrithabramley, do we know what they are doing (Sahara)18:14
abramleyI would assume that trove and sahara would be packaged in the same way - so that they can co-exist in the same horizon install18:15
imandhan*zaqar is in the same boat too18:15
abramleySo far I have found a single task on a backlog to add a package for sahara for RDO18:15
abramley... but I didn't see anything for trove18:15
abramleyOn the ubuntu side I haven't seen anything for any of the horizon plugins18:15
amrithok, so the question is this.18:17
abramleyI think we need to reach out to the various communities that do the packaging for the distros - but first we should talk to sahara etc18:17
amrithis there a library that trove needs to 'release' for the dashboard?18:17
amrithand is that something we have to do by R-618:17
amrithFeb 2618:17
abramleyIn the past the people packaging horizon would just grab code from github during the build of the packages18:18
amrithis Horizon expecting that we give them this plugin or whatever by R-6?18:18
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abramleyI don't believe 'horizon' is expecting anything from trove / sahara etc - we are now a plugin on top of horizon so they don't have to worry about us18:18
dloiI don;t thing horizon is expecting a packaged plugin18:19
abramleyIt is really more of a packaging issue for the distro maintainers18:19
amrithok, if that is the case, is the horizon plugin a "non-client library"?18:19
imandhanI'm asking a Horizon core who is at their midcycle currently so will let you know when I hear back18:19
amrithSounds like no.18:19
amriththanks imandhan18:19
amrithimandhan, may I assign the action item to you to get this answered?18:19
imandhansure18:19
* pmackinn pmackinn to enquire about RDO trove-dashboard18:20
pmackinn#action pmackinn to enquire about RDO trove-dashboard18:20
imandhanI'll communicate whatever I learn on the trove channel18:20
amrith#action imandhan to get an answer from horizon whether they consider the trove-dashboard plugin to be a "non-client library" and whether they need it by R-618:20
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amrithimandhan, if you would, email it to me please. it may get lost in the irc shuffle18:20
imandhanokay, will do18:20
amriththanks pmackinn18:21
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amrithok, that takes us on to the next topic18:21
amrith#topic  Health check on outstanding blueprints and features for Mitaka18:21
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amrith#link      https://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/mitaka-318:21
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amrithI'm not going to run down the list but rather ask if anyone has a set of reviews or changes that they feel is falling behind.18:22
amriththe deadline for all features is R-5, March 4th.18:22
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amrithanyone?18:22
peterstacI'll be cutting it close with the module stuff18:23
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amrithpeterstac, ok18:23
peterstacI think I'm going to break it down into two sets to make it easier for review (plus I'm almost done the first one)18:23
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amriththere are several bugs for m-3 that are currently not assigned.18:24
peterstacmodule creation/deletion, etc. and then instance apply/remove, etc.18:24
amrithmany appear to relate to PXC18:24
amrithbut not all18:24
amrith#1509615(mysql) incremental backup keeps instance in BACKUP state if backup has no lsn18:24
amrith#1541222need a way to set the listening ip to user specified address on guest datastores18:24
amrith#1542485guest_log_long_query_time should be controlled via configuration groups18:24
amrith#1543211PXC guestagent secure method has hack to set the admin password18:24
amrith#1546372mysql root enable reports the user as 'root' instead of context.user18:24
amrith#1549291Error in taskmanager.test_pxc_clusters.PXCClusterTasksTest.test_shrink_cluster_does_not_exist18:24
dougshelley66i assume the bugs aren't required to be done by FF?18:25
amrithno18:25
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amrithbut R-5 is the deadline for all client libraries18:25
amrithso if there is something that is in the client, the deadline is R-518:26
amrithThere is time through R-2 for bug fixes18:26
amrithso I'm not hearing anyone express concerns about features for R-5, which is good.18:26
amrithgoing once18:27
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amrithgoing twice18:27
imandhanwait18:27
amrithok, imandhan go ahead18:27
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imandhanI'm having a little trouble with my couchdb work. I'll try to push it all done this week18:27
imandhanjust wanted to throw that out there since it currently isn't out for review18:27
imandhanand also, might be pinging some people with questions :)18:28
amrithok, if you can start sending them up for review in parts, it may expedite.18:28
amrithsure18:28
amrithanyone else?18:28
imandhanhmm okay I can do parts18:28
amrithnot required18:28
amrithdon't change it now18:28
amrithif you are on track to push all of it up this week, just do that.18:29
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imandhanok cool18:29
amrithanyone else18:29
imandhanthanks!18:29
amrithgoing once18:29
amrithgoing twice18:29
amrith#topic Open Discussion18:29
pmackinnwait!18:29
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pmackinnoh ok18:29
amrith#topic pmackinn18:29
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amrithlet's talk about pmackinn18:30
amrith;)18:30
amrithgo ahead pmackinn18:30
pmackinnare we in open? good?18:30
amrith#topic Open Discussion18:30
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amrithnow we are18:30
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amrithgo ahead pmackinn18:30
pmackinnis there a trove-integration spec template?18:30
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amrithI don't believe so18:30
pmackinnor just use the trove one for a trove-int spec (image create per meetup)?18:31
amrithbug good luck trying to get the test jobs on the trove-specs repository to understand two templates ;)18:31
amrithuse the same one would be my recommendation.18:31
* pmackinn probably has his answer :-)18:31
amrithA lot of sections would fall by the wayside, likely.18:31
pmackinnthx18:31
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amrithothers for Open Discussion18:31
dloiMy guess is the trove-dashboard is not a client library but just in case it is can we get one more +2 and WF for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269735/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270483/18:31
pmalikYes, one thing.18:32
pmalikI have recently updated the root scenario tests to make use of the18:32
pmaliknew stuff added by cp16net in the cluster-root patch set.18:32
pmalikThe tests now also ping the datastore to verify the root credentials18:32
pmalikactually work - see review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283754/18:32
pmalikI however noticed that when we restore a root-enabled MySQL instance18:32
pmalikwe also reset the root password to a new random value:18:32
pmalikhttps://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/guestagent/datastore/mysql_common/service.py#L71418:32
pmalikI don't think this is consistent with other datastores (see Mongo for instance).18:32
pmalikMore importantly, is this what we (the user) want?18:32
pmalikIf they enable root with password 'foo' then backup and restore18:32
pmalikthe instance it should still have the root password 'foo'.18:32
pmalikAny opinions?18:32
pmalikThx. :P18:32
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amrithSounds reasonable to me.18:33
amrithI'm not sure why we reset it to a random value though.18:33
amrithdoes anyone remember a good reason for this?18:33
dougshelley66yes18:34
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dougshelley66isn't the point that the new instance isn't root enabled? or is ok that it is root-enabled as long as it shows root enabled?18:34
pmalikWell the restored instance will always be marked as root-enabled.18:34
amrithI believe that the important thing is that we should show it as root enabled.18:35
peterstac(unless you exploit the defect ;P )18:35
amrithwhether the root is actually accessible or not, I think is less interesting.18:35
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amrithafter all on the instance (the original) with root enabled, I could have perpetrated some weird thing that makes its way into the restored instance. Therefore, I think we should certianly show root-enabled.18:36
amrithYes?18:36
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pmalikYes. But this does not have impact on the root state.18:37
pmalikThe reported state will be root-enabled and we specifically test that.18:37
pmalikThis is that we also change the restored root password which kinda does not make much sunse and is probably not what the user would expect.18:37
amrithI'm with you. do you have a proposal? such as report root-enabled and don't change the root password (which I think is fine).18:39
amrithunless I'm missing dougshelley66's point.18:39
amrithin any event, is this something we can discuss on #openstack-trove or in a smaller group?18:39
dougshelley66no my point was to make sure it stays root enabled18:39
dougshelley66if that is ok, i guess the pwd should stay18:39
dougshelley66but someone is specifically preventing that, it would be good to know why18:40
dougshelley66but that may not be possible18:40
amrithdougshelley66, I agree with all that you say. I'm not sure why the pwd is being changed.18:40
amrithmaybe we can ask the old-timers offline.18:40
pmalikThe root state is reported here: https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/guestagent/datastore/mysql_common/manager.py#L23218:41
amrithI can't think of a good reason.18:41
pmalikLine 231 is what generates a new password...18:41
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amrithpmalik, the issue is why this behavior (not where this behavior is in the code).18:42
amrithand for that we need to ask someone with some history18:42
amrithI think it makes sense not to change the password.18:42
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amrithbut, let's get some more information.18:42
amrithif we can.18:42
amrithok?18:42
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amrithpmalik ... ok?18:43
pmalikyes, I can push up a review and we can discuss there...18:43
amrithok, works for me.18:43
amrithother topics for open discussion?18:43
amrithgoing once18:44
imandhanyes18:44
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amrithgo ahead imandhan18:44
imandhanMariam wanted to let everyone know that her patch is up for review18:44
amrithgot a number?18:45
imandhanhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/270443/18:45
amrithok, what about it?18:45
imandhanshe just wanted to give a status update I think18:45
amrithok, thanks18:45
imandhanthat's what I got from her email, since she's out of office today can't speak for her much18:46
amrithsounds good18:46
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amrithfyi dougshelley66 I sent up a fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/154686118:46
openstackLaunchpad bug 1546861 in Trove "excessive log messages in unittests" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Amrith (amrith)18:46
amrithhttps://review.openstack.org/28429918:46
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amrithThis does NOT address https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/154929118:47
openstackLaunchpad bug 1549291 in Trove "Error in taskmanager.test_pxc_clusters.PXCClusterTasksTest.test_shrink_cluster_does_not_exist" [Medium,Confirmed]18:47
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amrithother things for open discussion18:48
amrithgoing once18:48
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amrithgoing twice18:48
amrith#endmeeting18:49
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Feb 24 18:49:03 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)18:49
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-02-24-18.00.html18:49
amrithThanks folks!18:49
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-02-24-18.00.txt18:49
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johnsom#startmeeting Octavia20:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb 24 20:00:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'octavia'20:00
sbalukoffHello, hello!20:00
madhu_ako/20:00
bharathmHii o/20:00
xgermano/20:00
johnsomHi there20:00
blogan_mobileHi20:00
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evgenyfo/20:00
xgermanblogan_mobile? another towage?20:00
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johnsom#topic Announcements20:00
TrevorVo/20:00
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johnsomL7 merged in Octavia!20:00
blogan_mobileNope, just out and about20:00
xgermanyeah!!!20:01
TrevorVWOOT20:01
sbalukoffYAAAAAY!20:01
xgermanblogan_mobile I would say the same when I am towed ;-)20:01
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markvano/20:01
sbalukoffNow we need to get it merged in neutron-lbaas!  (And yes, I'm working on that.)20:01
johnsomThanks to sbalukoff, rm_work, johnsom for hanging out into the evening last night to get that done20:01
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sbalukoffThanks to y'all for the extensive testing and code review.20:01
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sbalukoffI didn't know this beforehand, but apparently it was 6000+ lines of code.20:01
xgermanyeah, you guys rock!!20:01
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TrevorVYes, sbalukoff, twas a feat :D20:02
johnsomIt was fun to see 7+ patches chained up in the merge gate20:02
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johnsomPriority patches needing review20:02
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johnsomL7 tracking etherpad20:02
johnsom#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas-l7-todo-list20:03
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TrevorVI may add the single-create review before this meeting is over. :)20:03
johnsomThere are still neutron-lbaas and CLI patches that need to merge.  I think both have open bugs.20:03
xgermanI think we have more than L720:03
xgerman#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282587/520:03
sbalukoffOnly a little left on that--  but note that post-L7 bugs have been captured in launchpad and aren't on that etherpad.20:03
johnsomTrevorV Throw it in here20:03
xgerman#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282113/220:03
TrevorVWill do20:03
sbalukoffjohnsom: You are correct.20:04
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xgerman#link  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284340/220:04
johnsomThere are still some open horizon patches too: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard+status:open20:04
xgerman#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/268237/720:04
madhu_ak#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172199/20:04
minwang2this patch has been there for a while, it is good to go #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272344/20:04
johnsomI saw a demo of TLS via horizon panels today, so again, good progress.20:04
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xgermanyep, horizon looks real good20:04
sbalukoffjohnsom: Given the feature freeze deadling next Monday, what are the high priorities to review to get in before the freeze?20:05
sbalukoffTrevorV's single-create patch, and Min's anti-affinity patch?20:05
bharathmsbalukoff: and cascade-delete as well20:05
sbalukoffOh! Cool-- that's ready for review? Great!20:05
madhu_akoctavia scenario tests with tempest plugin here: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172199/20:05
xgermancascading delete (see my patches) - Horizon needs that20:05
johnsomPriorities off my head are: L7, horizon panels, get-me-an-LB, delete-me-an-LB, anti-affinity20:05
xgermans/delete-me-an-b/cascading-delete/g20:06
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sbalukoffAnd the n-lbaas L7 and L7 CLI stuff. :)20:06
johnsomSorry for taking artistic license....20:06
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sbalukoff:)20:06
rm_worko/ (sorry late)20:07
sbalukoffI think that's all doable.20:07
xgermanno worries — cascading delete is especially critical since we won’t get an extension per dougwig20:07
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sbalukoffxgerman: Ok, good to know.20:07
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johnsomYeah, all of that is in-flight so definitely possible20:07
xgermanyeah “orchestration” ...20:07
johnsom#topic Octavia/glance coupling for images (ihar)20:08
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xgermanok, thanks for picking that up20:08
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johnsomUgh, it looks like we just lost him20:08
xgermanbasically uses glance-tags instead of image ids20:08
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xgermanso you na change the image WITHOUT having to reboot the octavia control plane20:08
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johnsomYeah, so this is around being able to swap amphora images without restarts20:09
sbalukoffOk.20:09
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xgermandownside you would couple closely with glance20:09
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blogan_mobileCouldn't we just store the image ID in the dB to get that?20:09
johnsomI had originally thought we would handle a signal to reload the octavia config.20:09
xgermanso if you store your images elswhere20:09
sbalukoffDoesn't seem like a bad idea. Though I will note that restarting the Octavia controler worker is not disruptive in most cases.20:09
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rm_workyeah20:10
rm_worksince queue20:10
sbalukoffBut this is probably important if we want to realistically support multiple controller workers.20:10
xgermanblogan_mobile yes, but that would be reinventing the wheel20:10
rm_workbut a signal wouldn't be bad either20:10
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johnsomI'm not sure if the oslo service stuff makes signals easy or not20:10
dougwigsbalukoff: it's likely a horizon error dialog down the road...20:10
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sbalukoffjohnsom: A signal to reload the octavia config is also probably a good idea.20:10
rm_workbut yeah, restarting the controller-worker isn't horrible -- except if it's mid-operation on something20:10
xgermantask board?20:10
blogan_mobileJob board20:11
rm_worki don't know whether it immediately acks the queue, or if the job would go back on20:11
rm_workJOB BOARD20:11
sbalukoffjob bored.20:11
johnsomThe signal would buy us being able to reload for reasons beyond image ID20:11
rm_work>_< yes that'd do it20:11
sbalukoff;)20:11
rm_workyeah i agree though johnsom, reload signal seems ideal20:11
xgerman#action johnsom file reload in LP20:11
rm_workthis can't be uncommon20:11
sbalukoffjohnsom: +120:11
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rm_workxgerman: i'm sure he already is doing it right now20:11
rm_work:P20:11
xgerman:-)20:11
sbalukoffHAha!20:12
johnsomOk.  We will work on a signal.20:12
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xgermanok, I also like the glance idea — but if we think it would be too tight a coupling we can add a driver...20:12
johnsomMaybe revisit image tags in the future, but they make me nervous as I'm not sure I trust glance to pick the right one20:12
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blogan_mobileI'd hate to see another driver interface for this20:12
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sbalukoffAnd...  well... maybe we don't need an 'image service' interface just yet?20:13
xgermanwhy? we love driver interfaces… let’s vote on that20:13
sbalukoffblogan_mobile: +120:13
johnsomWell, technically *we* don't talk to glance today.  That would be new...20:13
sbalukoffYep.20:13
sbalukoffExactly.20:13
johnsom#topic octavia-health-manager requires a host-wise plugged interface to the lb-mgmt-net20:13
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johnsom#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/154929720:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1549297 in octavia "octavia-health-manager requires a host-wise plugged interface to the lb-mgmt-net" [Undecided,New]20:14
sbalukoffI'm not sure I understand the issue here.20:14
johnsomI'm not sure if there is someone to talk to this here.  They said they might not be able to join today.20:14
sbalukoffGranted, I spend most of the day in devstack, where that's set up already.20:14
sbalukoffBut it's true that in production: The controller worker and health monitor need to able to talk to the amphorae.20:15
johnsomBasically they are proposing/asking about separation for the health manager receiver.  I.e. namespace or such20:15
sbalukoffThat means either a host-plugged interface, or routing to the lb-mgmt-net.20:15
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johnsomFor both security and IP conflicts with other "host" networks where health manager might live.20:15
sbalukoffThat's not a bad idea...20:15
johnsomThat is my reading....20:16
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sbalukoffOk. Maybe we talk about this when they can be here?20:16
xgermanmine as well20:16
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sbalukoffJust so we understand exactly what they mean?20:16
xgermanI think it makes sense20:16
xgermanthey provide a picture20:16
sbalukoffAah.20:17
sbalukoffSorry-- I feel like I'm just not prepared to talk about it this week.20:17
xgermanok, we can punt it20:17
johnsomOk, so I'll tag it RFE.  Please have a look and comment.20:17
TrevorV03009120:17
TrevorVRIP sorry wrong chat20:17
sbalukoff(Not that my preparedness on this needs to be a deciding factor on whether we discuss it...)20:17
johnsomsbalukoff +1, I need to read more20:18
sbalukoffjohnsom: Sounds good.20:18
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johnsom#topic Mitaka blueprints/rfes/m-3 bugs for neutron-lbaas and octavia20:18
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fnavalim in TrevorV!20:18
johnsomdougwig Any you want to cover?20:18
johnsom#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bugs?field.tag=target-mitaka20:18
sbalukoffWe've got a lot to do there, though most of it doesn't seem too hard.20:19
johnsomI have tagged bugs I think we should try to get fixed for Mitaka.  Most aren't too hard/big.  Some are L7 related20:19
sbalukoffAnd we have two weeks after the feature freeze to squash as many of those as possible, right?20:19
dougwigdistracted by midcycle, but i'd like to hear the 2/29 status of get-me-an-lb and horizon ?20:19
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johnsom#link http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/schedule.html20:20
sbalukoffdougwig: both are under review now, looks like a good chance of landing by 2/2920:20
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johnsomMarch 14th would be RC120:20
xgermandougwig: cascade delete is close as well20:20
ajmillerdougwig: regarding horizon, basic LB create workflow is in place, there are still several patches filling out functionality, fixing bugs, improving defaults, etc.20:21
dougwighow are we defining close?  for get-me-an-lb, the devil is in the corner cases. how are we testing that?  for horizon, do we have an analysis of gaps from the old UI?20:21
rm_workwell, the corner cases would be bugs, right?20:21
dougwige.g., last i looked at horizon, it didn't support multiple providers.20:21
rm_workand we have until RC1 :)20:21
dougwigrm_work: in orchestration, the corner cases is the feature.20:22
sbalukoffajmiller:  So, mostly "bugs" at this point? No major missing functionality (except L7, which we never had planned to have in the GUI by mitaka anyway)20:22
rm_workdougwig: eh, what's a bug vs. a feature, REALLy? :P20:22
xgermanso does Horizon need to land in sync with us?20:22
xgermanthey are their own project20:23
dougwigdo we want the packager's to include them?20:23
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xgermanwe should probably check with doug-fish what hey think20:23
xgermanso let’s table it20:24
markvandoug-fish is at mid cycle for horizon this week20:24
markvanbut they are making good progress...and would always like more reviewers20:24
sbalukoffCool!20:24
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dougwigass20:24
xgermanyep, but do they want to be shipped on 2.29?20:25
dougwigkevinbenton: typed that ^^20:25
sbalukoffHaha20:25
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markvanyou can create a LB via the new panels now...so add it to your devstack and kick the tires20:25
sbalukoffmarkvan: will do!20:25
xgermanmarkvan so you want us to say when it’s ready?20:25
xgermanfor packaging?20:26
xgermanjust trying to figure out who makes that call20:26
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dougwigit's up to us to ping them. when do we think that'll be?20:26
xgermanFrom what I have seen we likely need an extension20:27
xgermanbut would like their input — let’s ping them Monday after their midcycle20:27
markvanyeah, doug-fish will have to answer one20:27
dougwigok20:27
sbalukoffOk.20:27
markvanI'll remind him as well...20:27
xgermanthanks markvan20:28
blogan_mobiledougwig the get me a lb is not orchestration20:28
johnsom#action xgerman to ping doug-fish on Mitaka-3 for dashboard20:28
xgermanpayback?20:28
* xgerman is the one who volun-tells20:28
dougwigblogan_mobile: it's a single unit in octavia?20:28
rm_workdougwig: yes20:28
sbalukoffxgerman: Haha!20:28
rm_workwell there will be a neutron-lbaas side too20:28
dougwigright, ok, good. that one is easy, then.20:28
rm_workbut20:28
rm_workthey're technically independent20:28
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blogan_mobiledougwig it's a single driver call20:29
johnsomOk, any other Mitaka-3 discussion?20:29
dougwigblogan_mobile: right, because it's a single template splat for haproxy.  got it.20:30
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johnsom#topic Magnum with Neutron based networking20:30
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johnsomI wanted to brink awareness to a kuryr spec:20:30
blogan_mobilewell since nlbaas is calling Octavia, Octavia API has to support it20:31
sbalukoffNice!20:31
johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269039/5/doc/source/specs/mitaka/nested_containers.rst20:31
sbalukoffSo is Magnum the particular container controller y'all are going to be going with? (I haven't looked at it closely yet)20:31
johnsomThis would be a good time to comment on hot-plugging neutron networks for the kuryr folks.20:31
sbalukoffSweet!20:31
johnsomNo, I can't speak to Magnum20:31
sbalukoffOk.20:32
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johnsomThey had some questions for octavia team and brought up the spec, so I figured I would share.20:32
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johnsom@topic Converting LBaaS v1 objects to LBaaS v2 (neela)20:32
sbalukoffHot-plugging container interfaces would be rad.20:32
johnsomneelashah1 Would you like to talk to this topic?20:33
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johnsomIt was added to the agenda today20:33
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johnsomneelashah1 are you there?20:34
neelashah1johnsom:yes20:34
johnsomAh, great20:34
johnsomWould you like to talk to your agenda item?20:34
neelashah1wondering if lbaas v1 and v2 can run in parallel? or if we would run into any conflicts with ips, etc?20:34
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neelashah1eseentially, can we convert v1 to v2 by bringing up both in parallel20:35
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dougwigi'd personally like to be able to run both, as it would let me run fewer test jobs.20:35
dougwigit's not currently supported20:35
sbalukoffI think our docs say we don't support it. Does anyone remember the exact reasons that breaks?20:35
dougwigdid we insanely reuse some db tables or something?20:36
xgermanwe did20:36
sbalukoffRiiiight.20:36
xgermanand somebody told me “nobody is running LBaaS V1"20:36
neelashah1xgerman : more like nobody is running lbaas v2 (yet) ?20:36
neelashah1:)20:37
sbalukoffAt the time, that was essentially true.20:37
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xgermanI guess releasing v2 spurred the adoption of v1?20:37
sbalukoffCan't be helped if people write code to interface with obsolete, deprecated interfaces. :/20:37
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blogandougwig: no we didn't reuse tables20:37
sbalukoffxgerman: I think it was a timing thing: It took a while to implement v2. In the mean time, people moved forward with v1.20:38
dougwiglots of people are running v120:38
bloganthe problems came because when running the v1 agent and v2 agent at the same time, there were conflicts20:38
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dougwignot an issue now, right?20:38
sbalukoffblogan: Do you recall what the nature of those conflicts was?20:39
bloganplus v1 and v2 both have the resource pools, and even though their under different paths /lb/pools vs /lbaas/pools, the wsgi code would validate against the v1 pool structure as well20:39
johnsomJust a reminder, we deprecated v1 in liberty20:39
bloganif you made a v2 pool create call, and vice versa20:39
sbalukoffjohnsom: +120:39
sbalukoffjohnsom: I think Neela is asking because she's trying to move off v1.20:39
blogandougwig: the agent stuff would be an issue if the namespace driver is being run in v2 i believe, and the v1 and v2 conflicts would be an issue as well20:40
johnsomYeah, I understand, it just seemed like we were heading down the path of engineering a way to run both....20:40
markvanbasic question will be how to get from running active v1 to v2.  step 1 shutdown/delete v1 objects, step 2, build new v2 objects?20:40
neelashah1johnsom sbalukoff - understand - but for people who are on kilo and already using v1 (since v2 was just introduced in kilo) and now need to move to v220:40
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blogansbalukoff: i don't recall specifics for hte agent, but had to do with the v1 agent trying to process the a v2 load balancer20:40
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sbalukoffmarkvan: That should be script-able. But nobody has written this script yet, and it is disruptive in any case.20:41
xgermannow as we removed the namespace agent… it might work?20:41
bloganwhen did we remove the namespace agent?20:41
johnsomWe didn't remove it, just disabled it in the devstack scripts20:41
bloganyeah20:41
xgermansorry, wrong wording… but it might be that you can now run both together?20:42
xgermanthough the database is still a hack...20:42
bloganxgerman: if v2 is running octavia it'll get around the agent issues20:42
sbalukoffNobody has tried in a while?20:42
neelashah1xgerman - so perhaps someone has to just try it out and see what happens?20:42
xgermanyep20:42
bloganbut the pool requests being combined by the neutron wsgi layer will still be a problem20:42
xgermanmmh20:42
markvanso something like: delete v1 objects, shutdown v1 agents, start v2 agents and build the v2 objects.   disruptive, but doable?20:42
sbalukoffblogan: +120:43
bloganand what about the database is a hack?20:43
johnsommarkvan do-able20:43
sbalukoffmarkvan: Yes.20:43
xgermanblogan, I think v1 can run on a v2 database but not vice versa20:43
xgermanand objects in v1 m,ean different things in v220:43
bloganxgerman: they're totally different tables, so the db doesn't matter20:43
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bloganall v2 tables are preprended with lbaas_20:44
xgermanoh, ok20:44
bloganv1 tables are just vips, pools, members, healthmonitors20:44
xgermanwell, so it might work to some degree20:44
blogannot creating pools20:45
bloganif v1 and v2 are both enabled20:45
johnsomneelashah1 So, in summary, we don't know or have a tested upgrade path.20:45
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neelashah1ok, great  - thanks for the discussion….johnsom balukoff blogan xgerman, we will see if its possible for us to try it out20:45
sbalukoffYep. the wsgi "pools" problem is a show-stopper for running both at the same time. There might be others.20:45
johnsomCool, let us know20:45
johnsom#topic Security gate - Bandit20:46
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sbalukoffWhat is Bandit?20:46
johnsomSo, I had the pleasure of doing an internal security review of Octavia.20:46
sbalukoffI'm so sorry.20:46
johnsom#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security/Projects/Bandit20:46
bloganby pleasure do you mean misery?20:46
sbalukoffThanks, blogan-google.20:47
johnsomYou will see there are a few bugs recently added of things we should look at.  I have started that already20:47
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bloganwhat?20:47
xgermanthey only asked him easy questions “like how does it come you are so awesome"20:47
johnsomOne recommendation they had was to add the bandit gate to our project.20:47
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sbalukoffjohnsom: Oh cool! Are you going to transfer actionable stuff in there to launchpad?20:47
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johnsomsbalukoff They are in launchpad now20:47
johnsomThe HMAC timing thing was one of them20:48
sbalukoffI don't have a problem adding a bandit gate--  non-voting for now and let's see how it goes?20:48
xgermansame here20:48
johnsomRight, they offered to help us setup a non-voting bandit gate.  I wanted to run it by you folks first.20:48
sbalukoffDo eet!20:48
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xgerman+120:48
minwang2+120:48
johnsomThey also mentioned there is a fine guide here:20:49
johnsom#link http://docs.openstack.org/security-guide/20:49
sbalukoffI like the idea of not having obvious security problems in Octavia. We're a ways away from getting there, but we've got to start somewhere, right?20:49
johnsomFor common issues, etc.20:49
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johnsomWe actually came out in pretty decent shape.  We do have work to do, but not bad.20:49
sbalukoffNice!20:49
johnsomOk, so if no objections, I will work with them to get the non-voting gate setup.20:50
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sbalukoffI'm totally going to pre-emtively override blogan's objections.20:50
sbalukoffDo it!20:50
johnsomI'm going to skip progress reports, I think we covered that already.20:50
johnsom#topic Open Discussion20:50
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fnavalreview requested pls: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172199/20:50
johnsomDid blogan object?  I didn't see that20:50
fnavalonce it passes all gates20:50
blogani guess i object a lot :(20:51
fnavalit's the reworked-reworked-reworked scearnio lbtest20:51
johnsomOk20:51
sbalukoffNo, I was just pre-emptively overriding his objects in case he objects.20:51
sbalukoffobjections.20:51
fnavalit should be ok - sbalukoff I'll address the deprecated urls in subsequent changes20:51
blogani was actually thinking of objecting, bc or our current gate and job instability20:51
bloganbut its non-voting and we'll see what happens20:51
xgermanwell, our enemies will see all opera security bugs20:52
sbalukoffSee? Aren't you glad I pre-emptively gave you all permission to ignore that?20:52
sbalukoff;)20:52
bloganwe don't have opera security bugs!20:52
xgermanour20:52
johnsomYeah, but non-voting should be ok.  Plus the gate issues are high priority bugs.  I think I have found some issues in the tests that may fix some of this20:52
sbalukoffjohnsom: I know I have. Am reeeeeally close to fixing some of that.20:52
sbalukoff(Like, if I had 10 more minutes before this meeting.)20:53
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johnsomsbalukoff I was going to update the httplib/urllib stuff.  Is that the same you are working on?20:53
sbalukofffnaval: Good to know on the tempest test work!20:53
sbalukoffFor what it's worth... tempest testing isn't a "feature" right? So, we can potentially merge that at any time, right?20:53
fnavalcool thanks please review when you get a chance20:53
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fnavalI hope so!20:53
fnavalblogan said that we should be able to20:54
blogansbalukoff: i'd ask supreme overlord dougwig on that20:54
fnavalsince it's tests20:54
xgermanyeah, no deadline for that20:54
sbalukoffjohnsom: Nope, that's not what I'm working on. Feel free!20:54
bloganfnaval: i said i wasn't sure20:54
johnsomsbalukoff cool, I will put up a patch for neutron_lbaas/tests/tempest/v2/scenario/base.py this afternoon20:54
xgermanI think we did it that way before20:54
fnavalk check with dougwig - but please take a look at the tests anyway20:54
fnavaljohnsom: cool thanks johnsom20:55
sbalukofffnaval: +120:55
markvanJust a reminder:20:55
markvan#link for orchestration/heat the LBv2 resources ready for final push/reviews https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:master+topic:bp/lbaasv2-suport20:55
madhu_akwith the same patch like fnaval said, we can run the tests using tempest-plugin.20:55
johnsomOh, sorry, I thought that had landed already20:55
sbalukoffmarkvan: Oh, good to know!20:55
sbalukoffWe should try to get those in.20:55
sbalukoffOr add our +1's.20:56
fnavalmadhu_ak: yep, thats for your changes to make that happen madhu_ak20:56
sbalukoff... it's going to be a busy few days here before Monday. :P20:56
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dougwigsorry, midcycle distraction. what do i need to look at?20:57
johnsomYep.  I will give the heat patches another pass.  I have reviewed those once20:57
neelashah1sbalukoff : yes, +1 from the lbaas team will be appreciated to land the heat support for v220:57
neelashah1+1 johnsom, thanks20:57
fnavalhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/172199/ dougwig20:57
sbalukoffdougwig: Any deadline on merging tempest testing code in Octavia?20:57
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sbalukoffdougwig: It's not a "feature" right?20:57
dougwigsbalukoff: if i say yes, i get a false sense of pressure and more commits.  if i say no, it's the truth.20:57
fnavalah ha20:58
xgermanlol20:58
sbalukoffdougwig: Haha!20:58
johnsomAlong those lines, do we want/need to cut an M3 octavia?20:58
sbalukoffdougwig: Thank you for your honesty, eh!20:58
xgermanjohnsom no20:58
xgermanI think final is good20:58
sbalukoffxgerman: +120:59
johnsomWorks for me20:59
sbalukoffI think my people are waiting on the final and probably wouldn't use M3 per se.20:59
xgermanmy people are three months behind...20:59
sbalukoffYeah...21:00
xgermanok, times out21:00
xgermano/21:00
sbalukoffThanks, folks!21:00
fnavalthanks!21:00
johnsom#endmeeting21:00
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