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sgordon | #startmeeting telcowg | 14:03 |
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openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 24 14:03:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sgordon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:03 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: telcowg)" | 14:03 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'telcowg' | 14:03 |
sgordon | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda | 14:03 |
sgordon | #roll call | 14:03 |
* sgordon guess regulars are likely at MWC... | 14:03 | |
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dronshaw | \ | 14:04 |
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sgordon | dronshaw, howdy | 14:05 |
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sgordon | #topic updates from product-wg mid-cycle | 14:05 |
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sgordon | a couple of updates to product wg process that are relevant for this group | 14:06 |
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sgordon | #action sgordon Update your user stories to reflect the Appropriate roles; Review in the PWG team meeting | 14:06 |
sgordon | #action cloudon Update your user stories to reflect the Appropriate roles; Review in the PWG team meeting | 14:06 |
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sgordon | #info more info being added to default template on this | 14:06 |
sgordon | #info repo and folder structure being adjusted for new/updated process - user stories will be submitted directly to 'proposed' folder in future | 14:07 |
sgordon | aim of the above being to capture all discussion in gerrit | 14:07 |
sgordon | pre-merge | 14:07 |
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sgordon | #topic other discussion | 14:09 |
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sgordon | i dont have a heap more beyond the above as i havent completed said updates to my own submissions yet :) | 14:09 |
dronshaw | fine by me :) seems you said most are likely at MWC. correct sgordon? | 14:10 |
sgordon | im actually not | 14:10 |
sgordon | but basically everyone else is | 14:10 |
sgordon | lol | 14:10 |
dronshaw | well I wish I were in Barcelona as well! | 14:10 |
srwilkers | that would be nice ;) | 14:10 |
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sgordon | well, there is always the openstack summit ;) | 14:12 |
sgordon | ok on that basis i will call it for today | 14:12 |
dronshaw | i’ll be there :) couple months away | 14:12 |
dronshaw | sounds great, see ya next week | 14:12 |
sgordon | thanks all for your time | 14:13 |
sgordon | #end meeting | 14:13 |
sgordon | #endmeeting | 14:13 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:13 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 24 14:13:08 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:13 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2016/telcowg.2016-02-24-14.03.html | 14:13 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2016/telcowg.2016-02-24-14.03.txt | 14:13 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2016/telcowg.2016-02-24-14.03.log.html | 14:13 |
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Swami | We don't have DVR_Meeting today since we are in the Mid cycle meetup | 15:16 |
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rkukura | hi ML2’ers! | 16:00 |
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yamamoto | hi | 16:00 |
Sukhdev | hello | 16:01 |
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rkukura | lets get started… | 16:01 |
rkukura | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 24 16:01:50 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:01 |
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rkukura | #topic Agenda | 16:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Agenda (Meeting topic: networking_ml2)" | 16:02 | |
rkukura | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_February_24.2C_2016 | 16:02 |
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rkukura | #topic Announcements | 16:03 |
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rkukura | only think I have is that the neutron mid-cycle is going on this week | 16:04 |
rkukura | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-mitaka-midcycle | 16:04 |
iyamahat | hello | 16:04 |
rkukura | iyamahat: Hi - Do you have something for the agenda, or an announcement? | 16:05 |
iyamahat | nothing from me | 16:05 |
rkukura | Any other announcements? | 16:05 |
rkukura | #topic Open Agenda | 16:05 |
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rkukura | Sukhdev added this to last week’s agenda to encourage people to bring up anything they’d like to discuss | 16:06 |
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Sukhdev | in terms of announcement - | 16:07 |
rkukura | Sukhdev: go ahead… | 16:07 |
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Sukhdev | I do not know if you are aware of the stadium inclusion discussion that is going on - | 16:07 |
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rkukura | I had seen at least some of that - has there been any conclusion? | 16:08 |
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Sukhdev | i.e. which projects are in the neutron stadium and which are not | 16:08 |
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Sukhdev | no conclusion yet - but, getting there | 16:08 |
Sukhdev | check it out here - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281628/ | 16:09 |
rkukura | Is there concensus that vendor-specific git repos would not be in the stadium? | 16:09 |
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Sukhdev | they will be all out | 16:11 |
Sukhdev | the contention is about the non-vendor repositories - | 16:12 |
Sukhdev | such as ODL, OVN, L2GW, SFC, etc | 16:12 |
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rkukura | what remains - potentially just advanced services? | 16:13 |
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Sukhdev | yup | 16:14 |
Sukhdev | if you look at the latest version of the patch - it has a list - which is very small | 16:14 |
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rkukura | tbachman: hi | 16:15 |
tbachman | rkukura: hi! | 16:16 |
rkukura | Sukhdev: thanks for bringing the stadium re-org up! | 16:17 |
Sukhdev | np | 16:17 |
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rkukura | I do see some advantage in “affiliated” projects being able to make more of their own decisions regarding stable branches, etc. | 16:17 |
rkukura | any other topics for “open agenda”? | 16:18 |
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rkukura | anyone starting to think about ML2-related design summit sessions yet? | 16:19 |
rkukura | I’d like to get some brainstorming on that going over the next few weeks in these meetings | 16:20 |
rkukura | #topic Modular L2 agent update | 16:21 |
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rkukura | Is scheuran here? | 16:21 |
scheuran | rkukura, hi sorry | 16:21 |
rkukura | np | 16:21 |
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rkukura | do you have any update since last week? | 16:22 |
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scheuran | talked to moshele today and we agreed to move the sriov agent over to the common agent framework if possible in Newton | 16:22 |
scheuran | I mean we're evaluating it if it's possible | 16:23 |
scheuran | other than that - my macvtap ml2 driver has merged | 16:23 |
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scheuran | agent already had 2*2+, but needed a rebase :( | 16:23 |
rkukura | scheuran: great! | 16:23 |
scheuran | so hopefully tomorrow... | 16:23 |
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scheuran | regarding docs | 16:24 |
scheuran | I started a ml2 section in the networking guide | 16:24 |
scheuran | https://review.openstack.org/282349 | 16:24 |
scheuran | it was already there but without content | 16:24 |
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scheuran | rkukura, Sukhdev, if you as ml2 experts could have a look that would be really great! | 16:24 |
scheuran | of course everybody else can do as well :) | 16:25 |
scheuran | #link https://review.openstack.org/282349 | 16:25 |
Sukhdev | scheuran : I will review it - thanks for the link | 16:25 |
rkukura | scheuran: yes - thanks for the heads up - looks very useful | 16:25 |
scheuran | Sukhdev, rkukura, cool, thanks! | 16:26 |
rkukura | Anything else on modular L2 agent? | 16:26 |
scheuran | no | 16:26 |
rkukura | thanks scheuran | 16:26 |
scheuran | welcome! | 16:26 |
rkukura | #topic Routed Networks | 16:27 |
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rkukura | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225384/ | 16:27 |
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rkukura | I still haven’t had a chance to review recent updates of this in detail, but it does seem to be progressing | 16:28 |
rkukura | Anyone have any comments on it to bring up here? | 16:28 |
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rkukura | I notice a comment about making segments a 1st class API, which hopefully will also be useful for traditional multi-segment L2 networks as well | 16:30 |
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rkukura | This really looks like it will have significant impact on ML2 - I encourage everyone who cares to review/comment | 16:32 |
rkukura | anything else on this? | 16:32 |
rkukura | if not… | 16:32 |
rkukura | #topic Open Discussion | 16:33 |
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rkukura | not sure about the difference between “open agenda” and “open discussion”, but please feel free to bring up anything you’d like to discuss | 16:33 |
rkukura | otherwise, we’ll wrap up for today | 16:33 |
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rkukura | seems that’s it for today… | 16:34 |
rkukura | thanks everyone! | 16:35 |
rkukura | #endmeeting | 16:35 |
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yamamoto | thank you | 16:35 |
Sukhdev | Thanks rkukura | 16:35 |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 24 16:35:09 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:35 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-02-24-16.01.html | 16:35 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-02-24-16.01.txt | 16:35 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-02-24-16.01.log.html | 16:35 |
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ekarlso- | yoyo | 16:55 |
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mugsie | #startmeeting Designate | 16:59 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 24 16:59:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:59 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:59 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 16:59 |
mugsie | #topic Roll Call | 16:59 |
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rsyed | o/ | 16:59 |
federico3 | o/ | 16:59 |
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mugsie | timsim: elarson ekarlso- Kiall courtesy ping | 17:00 |
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pglass | o/ | 17:00 |
Kiall | o/ | 17:00 |
pglass | timsim is ooo today | 17:00 |
mugsie | give people a few mins to file in | 17:00 |
mugsie | useless | 17:00 |
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mugsie | :) | 17:00 |
elarson | o/ | 17:00 |
ekarlso- | pooong | 17:00 |
elarson | pooooooo | 17:00 |
mugsie | #topic Action Items | 17:00 |
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mugsie | kiall to BP 0022fd8 Ensure ZoneManager emits valid objects | 17:01 |
Kiall | Still TODO | 17:01 |
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mugsie | #action kiall to BP 0022fd8 Ensure ZoneManager emits valid objects | 17:01 |
mugsie | #action mugsie bp 24c957b | 17:01 |
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mugsie | #action mugsie to look at bug/1546437 | 17:01 |
mugsie | a bad week for it | 17:01 |
mugsie | Bug Triage (timsim - recurring) | 17:01 |
mugsie | #topic Bug Triage (timsim - recurring) | 17:01 |
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mugsie | I suppose I should do this :) | 17:02 |
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mugsie | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1516355 | 17:02 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1516355 in Designate ""RecordSet not found" while trying to update NS Pool" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Tim Simmons (timsim) | 17:02 |
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mugsie | ah, tim was looking at this | 17:02 |
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mugsie | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1548331 | 17:02 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1548331 in Designate "The zone records quota are not enforced" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Eric Larson (eric-larson) | 17:02 |
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Kiall | Was ^ not fixed? | 17:03 |
mugsie | yeah | 17:03 |
mugsie | we had a CVE for that afaik | 17:03 |
mugsie | elarson: ? | 17:03 |
Kiall | elarson: is that still active? | 17:03 |
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mugsie | ok - we can come back to it when elarson is backj | 17:04 |
elarson | Kiall: | 17:04 |
elarson | yes! | 17:04 |
elarson | geez | 17:04 |
Kiall | lol | 17:04 |
Kiall | triming | 17:04 |
Kiall | timing* | 17:04 |
elarson | can't type | 17:04 |
mugsie | :) | 17:04 |
elarson | yeah, I have some patches I'm getting sorted out now | 17:05 |
mugsie | ok, then this is a critical , m3 | 17:05 |
Kiall | ++ | 17:05 |
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elarson | basically we check zone recordsets but not the zone records | 17:05 |
mugsie | I could have sworn we fixed that | 17:05 |
mugsie | ok - cool that is all the bugs | 17:05 |
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elarson | part of it yes, but not all recordsets | 17:06 |
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mugsie | -_- | 17:06 |
mugsie | #topci Stable Backport Triage (kiall - recurring) | 17:06 |
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mugsie | #topic Stable Backport Triage (kiall - recurring) | 17:06 |
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mugsie | me no typy well today | 17:06 |
Kiall | http://paste.openstack.org/show/488053/ - as usual, take a few mins and nominate for backporting | 17:06 |
mugsie | Kiall: | 17:06 |
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mugsie | b79cb7b Update Bind 9 backend and other documentation | 17:07 |
Kiall | be9d280 Merge "Fix V1 Quotas API Extension" - if it applies | 17:07 |
mugsie | its part of the rename | 17:07 |
federico3 | mugsie: backporting those docs? | 17:07 |
mugsie | yeah, they apply | 17:07 |
Kiall | do we backport docs? they don't publish anywhere? | 17:07 |
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mugsie | they can be built by distros | 17:07 |
Kiall | We've never considered them for backport before ;) | 17:07 |
mugsie | who can build from the stable branch | 17:07 |
federico3 | also, they would not be accurate for some stable branches | 17:07 |
mugsie | we are now :) | 17:07 |
mugsie | federico3: they would be acurate for liberty | 17:08 |
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federico3 | ok, I can do the backport for libert | 17:08 |
mugsie | k | 17:08 |
federico3 | -y | 17:08 |
mugsie | any others? | 17:08 |
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Kiall | nope, not that I can see | 17:08 |
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mugsie | #action federico3 bp b79cb7b Update Bind 9 backend and other documentation | 17:09 |
mugsie | #topic Core Membership | 17:09 |
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mugsie | ok - we are running on a low amount of cores right now, and we need to increase the numbers | 17:09 |
mugsie | I was going to do it all in meeting, but as one of rthe cores is not here I am going to send a mail to the -ml | 17:10 |
mugsie | but I would like to nominate elarson as our 4th | 17:10 |
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mugsie | http://graham.hayes.ie/listings/designate-reviewstats.txt shows he has been an active reviewer, and the quality has been very good | 17:10 |
mugsie | #link http://graham.hayes.ie/listings/designate-reviewstats.txt | 17:11 |
Kiall | ++ good reviews, sane code, but.. drives the wrong kinda fan | 17:11 |
mugsie | elarson: you ok with that? | 17:11 |
Kiall | van* | 17:11 |
* elarson would love to be a core :) | 17:11 | |
mugsie | cool | 17:11 |
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mugsie | #action mugsie sent core nominiation to the -ml | 17:11 |
mugsie | #topic Designate/Neutron Integration Update (mlavalle - recurring) | 17:11 |
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mugsie | mlavalle: around? | 17:11 |
mlavalle | hi there | 17:11 |
mugsie | hello :) | 17:12 |
mlavalle | over the past few days I added dns integration support to the neutron client: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282588/ | 17:12 |
mlavalle | I am attending the Neutron mid-cycle, so I have a lot of cores around me. We should merge this patchset this week | 17:13 |
mugsie | sweet | 17:13 |
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mlavalle | and I continue responding to reviews to the networking guide chapter: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280957/ | 17:13 |
Kiall | Cool, now if only I could find the star button on the new gerrit UI to come back to this later this eve -_- | 17:13 |
mugsie | Kiall: use gertty | 17:14 |
mugsie | :D | 17:14 |
mlavalle | same thing.... we should merge it soon | 17:14 |
mlavalle | and that is all I have this week. We are getting to the end of this project :-) | 17:14 |
mugsie | great | 17:14 |
mugsie | it has been a long road | 17:15 |
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mugsie | any questions? | 17:15 |
mugsie | OK then | 17:15 |
Kiall | going to be at aUSTIN SUMMIT? | 17:15 |
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mlavalle | yes | 17:15 |
Kiall | (so I can buy uou a beer or 3 ;)) | 17:15 |
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Kiall | wow, I can't typo | 17:15 |
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Kiall | type | 17:15 |
mlavalle | looking forward to it | 17:15 |
mlavalle | :-) | 17:15 |
mugsie | Kiall: you can definitly typo ;) | 17:15 |
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Kiall | I'm going to shutup now.. lol | 17:16 |
mugsie | #topic sonuk: tempest plugin implementation | 17:16 |
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mugsie | sonuk seems to be afk | 17:16 |
mugsie | but there is a review | 17:16 |
mugsie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283511/ | 17:16 |
mugsie | can people review that - so we can let sonuk progress? | 17:17 |
mugsie | I would be lookig at pglass and ekarlso- mainly | 17:17 |
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mugsie | I would like your input | 17:17 |
ekarlso- | ofc :)o | 17:17 |
pglass | sure | 17:17 |
mugsie | #topic pglass: tempest-lib being integrated back into tempest | 17:17 |
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mugsie | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/qa-specs/specs/tempest/reintegrate-tempest-lib.html | 17:18 |
mugsie | pglass: you have the floor :) | 17:18 |
Kiall | LOL. Really? | 17:18 |
pglass | they went through and -2'd all the reviews to tempest-lib today | 17:18 |
Kiall | (facepalm) | 17:18 |
Kiall | (all the work of moving to it, now back .. oh well) | 17:18 |
pglass | there's nothing immediate we have to do, because the pypi packages will stay there | 17:18 |
pglass | mostly just for awareness | 17:19 |
mugsie | cool. so new features will be landing in tempest.lib from now on? | 17:19 |
pglass | yeah | 17:19 |
pglass | and if we're moving those functional tests over to a tempest plugin, then eventually we'll stop using tempest-lib anyway | 17:19 |
mugsie | OK. | 17:20 |
mugsie | i feel like this should have been more of a cross project thing, but I may have missed it | 17:20 |
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pglass | i only found out from the email notification from a -2 | 17:20 |
pglass | on a tempest-lib review | 17:21 |
mugsie | nice | 17:21 |
mugsie | #topic Open Discussion | 17:21 |
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mugsie | any off agenda items? | 17:21 |
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mugsie | going once | 17:22 |
mpbnka | I would like to have this reviewed https://blueprints.launchpad.net/designate/+spec/different-format-for-ipv4-and-ipv6 | 17:22 |
Kiall | None from me | 17:22 |
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mpbnka | I have spec defined for this | 17:22 |
mpbnka | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278999/ | 17:22 |
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mugsie | OK, I can review this week | 17:23 |
elarson | fwiw, I looked at that but wasn't sure the status of the sink. | 17:23 |
mugsie | for this cycle unchanged | 17:24 |
mpbnka | I would like to target this in m3 | 17:24 |
mugsie | we my see if there is a change in newton | 17:24 |
mugsie | ok | 17:24 |
mpbnka | the change I suggest are only in designate.conf and sink code | 17:24 |
mugsie | then we need to revie asap | 17:24 |
mugsie | I may be able to grant a FFE for this as well, if needed | 17:25 |
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mugsie | can everyone have a look today / tomorrow? | 17:25 |
Kiall | Sure | 17:25 |
mugsie | ok, anything else? | 17:26 |
mpbnka | thanks | 17:26 |
mugsie | OK - thanks everyone! | 17:26 |
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mugsie | #endmeeting | 17:26 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:26 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 24 17:26:50 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:26 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-02-24-16.59.html | 17:26 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-02-24-16.59.txt | 17:26 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-02-24-16.59.log.html | 17:26 |
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amrith | #startmeeting trove | 18:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 24 18:00:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amrith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:00 |
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pmackinn | o/ | 18:00 |
amrith | hi pete! | 18:00 |
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amrith | pmackinn, while folks trickle in, did you read dougshelley66's blog post http://www.tesora.com/trove-midcycle-raleigh/ | 18:01 |
amrith | nice pic of the RedHat office | 18:01 |
vgnbkr | o/ | 18:01 |
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dougshelley66 | o/ | 18:02 |
imandhan | o/ | 18:02 |
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pmackinn | amrith, dougshelley66: hey! real nice | 18:02 |
amrith | and thanks much for hanging out with us while we were there. | 18:02 |
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pmalik | \./ | 18:02 |
amrith | will get started in a minute or two | 18:03 |
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pmackinn | "I felt our trip to Raleigh was well worth the cost and time...but, frankly, could have been a lot warmer." | 18:03 |
amrith | Well, we didn't want to say what we really felt. Being sold a bill of goods, etc., etc., | 18:04 |
amrith | but, let's get started | 18:04 |
dougshelley66 | pmackinn hey you are paraphrasing...i never said that... | 18:04 |
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amrith | #topic Trove pulse update | 18:04 |
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amrith | So, cp16net is out | 18:04 |
atomic77 | \\o | 18:04 |
amrith | and I haven't figure out how to update the chart that he uses. | 18:05 |
* atomic77 pants | 18:05 | |
amrith | he didn't get me write permission in time. | 18:05 |
amrith | so our stats are a week old. | 18:05 |
peterstac | o/ | 18:05 |
dougshelley66 | any cp16net jr news> | 18:05 |
amrith | #link http://bit.ly/1VQyg00 | 18:05 |
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amrith | dougshelley66, no news | 18:05 |
amrith | but will be sure to share with the team as soon as I hear something. | 18:05 |
amrith | I've seen a lot of new changes and some reviews go by. | 18:06 |
amrith | but we have a bunch more to do before we can get to m3. | 18:06 |
amrith | which brings us to the next item | 18:06 |
amrith | #topic Announcements | 18:06 |
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amrith | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/086362.html | 18:06 |
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amrith | Sorry, wrong link | 18:07 |
amrith | #link http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/schedule.html | 18:07 |
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amrith | We are almost at R-6 | 18:07 |
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amrith | On Feb 26, we have to cut the final version of all non-client libraries. | 18:07 |
amrith | In the last meeting, we discussed this briefly | 18:08 |
amrith | and determined that we had horizon libraries | 18:08 |
amrith | abramley, dloi, imandhan would some of you like to fill us in on where we are relative to this? | 18:08 |
amrith | anyone | 18:09 |
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amrith | imandhan, yt? | 18:09 |
imandhan | typing | 18:09 |
amrith | k, thx | 18:10 |
imandhan | amrith I'm going to let my angular panel table display patch stay in WIP for this release | 18:10 |
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imandhan | the rest of the patches seem like they are in good shape | 18:10 |
imandhan | from a quick glance at the list | 18:11 |
amrith | imandhan, ok. wrt dashboard libraries for the current horizon dashboard, are we in good shape relative to that? is there something that we need to package up? | 18:11 |
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imandhan | I'm not entirely sure about that, I can ask around and see what other projects are doing | 18:12 |
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imandhan | I'll get back to you on that after the meeting | 18:12 |
amrith | imandhan, thanks | 18:12 |
imandhan | np | 18:12 |
dloi | I think there are a couple of patches to go for the regular django stuff | 18:12 |
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amrith | hi dloi, do you think they're in good shape/on track? | 18:13 |
amrith | how do we get this released and given to (whoever) | 18:13 |
dloi | one has some test failures on it | 18:13 |
amrith | this relates to abramley's question that is later in the agenda, so we may as well move to that. | 18:13 |
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amrith | [abramley] Recently all of the trove horizon code was moved into a separate plugin - trove-dashboard. Who in the community is responsible for creating ubuntu, rhel etc packages for this trove-dashboard plugin and ensuring that it installs and plugs into horizon on the various platforms? | 18:14 |
abramley | Yes - you touched on it above - we are all using trove-dashboard code from github - but at some point this needs to get packaged | 18:14 |
abramley | as deb / rpm etc for redhat, ubuntu suse etc | 18:14 |
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abramley | Sahara will have the same issue | 18:14 |
amrith | abramley, do we know what they are doing (Sahara) | 18:14 |
abramley | I would assume that trove and sahara would be packaged in the same way - so that they can co-exist in the same horizon install | 18:15 |
imandhan | *zaqar is in the same boat too | 18:15 |
abramley | So far I have found a single task on a backlog to add a package for sahara for RDO | 18:15 |
abramley | ... but I didn't see anything for trove | 18:15 |
abramley | On the ubuntu side I haven't seen anything for any of the horizon plugins | 18:15 |
amrith | ok, so the question is this. | 18:17 |
abramley | I think we need to reach out to the various communities that do the packaging for the distros - but first we should talk to sahara etc | 18:17 |
amrith | is there a library that trove needs to 'release' for the dashboard? | 18:17 |
amrith | and is that something we have to do by R-6 | 18:17 |
amrith | Feb 26 | 18:17 |
abramley | In the past the people packaging horizon would just grab code from github during the build of the packages | 18:18 |
amrith | is Horizon expecting that we give them this plugin or whatever by R-6? | 18:18 |
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abramley | I don't believe 'horizon' is expecting anything from trove / sahara etc - we are now a plugin on top of horizon so they don't have to worry about us | 18:18 |
dloi | I don;t thing horizon is expecting a packaged plugin | 18:19 |
abramley | It is really more of a packaging issue for the distro maintainers | 18:19 |
amrith | ok, if that is the case, is the horizon plugin a "non-client library"? | 18:19 |
imandhan | I'm asking a Horizon core who is at their midcycle currently so will let you know when I hear back | 18:19 |
amrith | Sounds like no. | 18:19 |
amrith | thanks imandhan | 18:19 |
amrith | imandhan, may I assign the action item to you to get this answered? | 18:19 |
imandhan | sure | 18:19 |
* pmackinn pmackinn to enquire about RDO trove-dashboard | 18:20 | |
pmackinn | #action pmackinn to enquire about RDO trove-dashboard | 18:20 |
imandhan | I'll communicate whatever I learn on the trove channel | 18:20 |
amrith | #action imandhan to get an answer from horizon whether they consider the trove-dashboard plugin to be a "non-client library" and whether they need it by R-6 | 18:20 |
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amrith | imandhan, if you would, email it to me please. it may get lost in the irc shuffle | 18:20 |
imandhan | okay, will do | 18:20 |
amrith | thanks pmackinn | 18:21 |
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amrith | ok, that takes us on to the next topic | 18:21 |
amrith | #topic Health check on outstanding blueprints and features for Mitaka | 18:21 |
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amrith | #link https://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/mitaka-3 | 18:21 |
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amrith | I'm not going to run down the list but rather ask if anyone has a set of reviews or changes that they feel is falling behind. | 18:22 |
amrith | the deadline for all features is R-5, March 4th. | 18:22 |
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amrith | anyone? | 18:22 |
peterstac | I'll be cutting it close with the module stuff | 18:23 |
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amrith | peterstac, ok | 18:23 |
peterstac | I think I'm going to break it down into two sets to make it easier for review (plus I'm almost done the first one) | 18:23 |
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amrith | there are several bugs for m-3 that are currently not assigned. | 18:24 |
peterstac | module creation/deletion, etc. and then instance apply/remove, etc. | 18:24 |
amrith | many appear to relate to PXC | 18:24 |
amrith | but not all | 18:24 |
amrith | #1509615(mysql) incremental backup keeps instance in BACKUP state if backup has no lsn | 18:24 |
amrith | #1541222need a way to set the listening ip to user specified address on guest datastores | 18:24 |
amrith | #1542485guest_log_long_query_time should be controlled via configuration groups | 18:24 |
amrith | #1543211PXC guestagent secure method has hack to set the admin password | 18:24 |
amrith | #1546372mysql root enable reports the user as 'root' instead of context.user | 18:24 |
amrith | #1549291Error in taskmanager.test_pxc_clusters.PXCClusterTasksTest.test_shrink_cluster_does_not_exist | 18:24 |
dougshelley66 | i assume the bugs aren't required to be done by FF? | 18:25 |
amrith | no | 18:25 |
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amrith | but R-5 is the deadline for all client libraries | 18:25 |
amrith | so if there is something that is in the client, the deadline is R-5 | 18:26 |
amrith | There is time through R-2 for bug fixes | 18:26 |
amrith | so I'm not hearing anyone express concerns about features for R-5, which is good. | 18:26 |
amrith | going once | 18:27 |
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amrith | going twice | 18:27 |
imandhan | wait | 18:27 |
amrith | ok, imandhan go ahead | 18:27 |
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imandhan | I'm having a little trouble with my couchdb work. I'll try to push it all done this week | 18:27 |
imandhan | just wanted to throw that out there since it currently isn't out for review | 18:27 |
imandhan | and also, might be pinging some people with questions :) | 18:28 |
amrith | ok, if you can start sending them up for review in parts, it may expedite. | 18:28 |
amrith | sure | 18:28 |
amrith | anyone else? | 18:28 |
imandhan | hmm okay I can do parts | 18:28 |
amrith | not required | 18:28 |
amrith | don't change it now | 18:28 |
amrith | if you are on track to push all of it up this week, just do that. | 18:29 |
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imandhan | ok cool | 18:29 |
amrith | anyone else | 18:29 |
imandhan | thanks! | 18:29 |
amrith | going once | 18:29 |
amrith | going twice | 18:29 |
amrith | #topic Open Discussion | 18:29 |
pmackinn | wait! | 18:29 |
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pmackinn | oh ok | 18:29 |
amrith | #topic pmackinn | 18:29 |
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amrith | let's talk about pmackinn | 18:30 |
amrith | ;) | 18:30 |
amrith | go ahead pmackinn | 18:30 |
pmackinn | are we in open? good? | 18:30 |
amrith | #topic Open Discussion | 18:30 |
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amrith | now we are | 18:30 |
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amrith | go ahead pmackinn | 18:30 |
pmackinn | is there a trove-integration spec template? | 18:30 |
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amrith | I don't believe so | 18:30 |
pmackinn | or just use the trove one for a trove-int spec (image create per meetup)? | 18:31 |
amrith | bug good luck trying to get the test jobs on the trove-specs repository to understand two templates ;) | 18:31 |
amrith | use the same one would be my recommendation. | 18:31 |
* pmackinn probably has his answer :-) | 18:31 | |
amrith | A lot of sections would fall by the wayside, likely. | 18:31 |
pmackinn | thx | 18:31 |
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amrith | others for Open Discussion | 18:31 |
dloi | My guess is the trove-dashboard is not a client library but just in case it is can we get one more +2 and WF for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269735/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270483/ | 18:31 |
pmalik | Yes, one thing. | 18:32 |
pmalik | I have recently updated the root scenario tests to make use of the | 18:32 |
pmalik | new stuff added by cp16net in the cluster-root patch set. | 18:32 |
pmalik | The tests now also ping the datastore to verify the root credentials | 18:32 |
pmalik | actually work - see review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283754/ | 18:32 |
pmalik | I however noticed that when we restore a root-enabled MySQL instance | 18:32 |
pmalik | we also reset the root password to a new random value: | 18:32 |
pmalik | https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/guestagent/datastore/mysql_common/service.py#L714 | 18:32 |
pmalik | I don't think this is consistent with other datastores (see Mongo for instance). | 18:32 |
pmalik | More importantly, is this what we (the user) want? | 18:32 |
pmalik | If they enable root with password 'foo' then backup and restore | 18:32 |
pmalik | the instance it should still have the root password 'foo'. | 18:32 |
pmalik | Any opinions? | 18:32 |
pmalik | Thx. :P | 18:32 |
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amrith | Sounds reasonable to me. | 18:33 |
amrith | I'm not sure why we reset it to a random value though. | 18:33 |
amrith | does anyone remember a good reason for this? | 18:33 |
dougshelley66 | yes | 18:34 |
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dougshelley66 | isn't the point that the new instance isn't root enabled? or is ok that it is root-enabled as long as it shows root enabled? | 18:34 |
pmalik | Well the restored instance will always be marked as root-enabled. | 18:34 |
amrith | I believe that the important thing is that we should show it as root enabled. | 18:35 |
peterstac | (unless you exploit the defect ;P ) | 18:35 |
amrith | whether the root is actually accessible or not, I think is less interesting. | 18:35 |
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amrith | after all on the instance (the original) with root enabled, I could have perpetrated some weird thing that makes its way into the restored instance. Therefore, I think we should certianly show root-enabled. | 18:36 |
amrith | Yes? | 18:36 |
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pmalik | Yes. But this does not have impact on the root state. | 18:37 |
pmalik | The reported state will be root-enabled and we specifically test that. | 18:37 |
pmalik | This is that we also change the restored root password which kinda does not make much sunse and is probably not what the user would expect. | 18:37 |
amrith | I'm with you. do you have a proposal? such as report root-enabled and don't change the root password (which I think is fine). | 18:39 |
amrith | unless I'm missing dougshelley66's point. | 18:39 |
amrith | in any event, is this something we can discuss on #openstack-trove or in a smaller group? | 18:39 |
dougshelley66 | no my point was to make sure it stays root enabled | 18:39 |
dougshelley66 | if that is ok, i guess the pwd should stay | 18:39 |
dougshelley66 | but someone is specifically preventing that, it would be good to know why | 18:40 |
dougshelley66 | but that may not be possible | 18:40 |
amrith | dougshelley66, I agree with all that you say. I'm not sure why the pwd is being changed. | 18:40 |
amrith | maybe we can ask the old-timers offline. | 18:40 |
pmalik | The root state is reported here: https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/guestagent/datastore/mysql_common/manager.py#L232 | 18:41 |
amrith | I can't think of a good reason. | 18:41 |
pmalik | Line 231 is what generates a new password... | 18:41 |
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amrith | pmalik, the issue is why this behavior (not where this behavior is in the code). | 18:42 |
amrith | and for that we need to ask someone with some history | 18:42 |
amrith | I think it makes sense not to change the password. | 18:42 |
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amrith | but, let's get some more information. | 18:42 |
amrith | if we can. | 18:42 |
amrith | ok? | 18:42 |
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amrith | pmalik ... ok? | 18:43 |
pmalik | yes, I can push up a review and we can discuss there... | 18:43 |
amrith | ok, works for me. | 18:43 |
amrith | other topics for open discussion? | 18:43 |
amrith | going once | 18:44 |
imandhan | yes | 18:44 |
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amrith | go ahead imandhan | 18:44 |
imandhan | Mariam wanted to let everyone know that her patch is up for review | 18:44 |
amrith | got a number? | 18:45 |
imandhan | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270443/ | 18:45 |
amrith | ok, what about it? | 18:45 |
imandhan | she just wanted to give a status update I think | 18:45 |
amrith | ok, thanks | 18:45 |
imandhan | that's what I got from her email, since she's out of office today can't speak for her much | 18:46 |
amrith | sounds good | 18:46 |
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amrith | fyi dougshelley66 I sent up a fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1546861 | 18:46 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1546861 in Trove "excessive log messages in unittests" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Amrith (amrith) | 18:46 |
amrith | https://review.openstack.org/284299 | 18:46 |
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amrith | This does NOT address https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1549291 | 18:47 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1549291 in Trove "Error in taskmanager.test_pxc_clusters.PXCClusterTasksTest.test_shrink_cluster_does_not_exist" [Medium,Confirmed] | 18:47 |
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amrith | other things for open discussion | 18:48 |
amrith | going once | 18:48 |
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amrith | going twice | 18:48 |
amrith | #endmeeting | 18:49 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 24 18:49:03 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:49 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-02-24-18.00.html | 18:49 |
amrith | Thanks folks! | 18:49 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-02-24-18.00.txt | 18:49 |
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openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-02-24-18.00.log.html | 18:49 |
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johnsom | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 24 20:00:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
sbalukoff | Hello, hello! | 20:00 |
madhu_ak | o/ | 20:00 |
bharathm | Hii o/ | 20:00 |
xgerman | o/ | 20:00 |
johnsom | Hi there | 20:00 |
blogan_mobile | Hi | 20:00 |
ajmiller | o/ | 20:00 |
evgenyf | o/ | 20:00 |
xgerman | blogan_mobile? another towage? | 20:00 |
minwang2 | o/ | 20:00 |
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johnsom | #topic Announcements | 20:00 |
TrevorV | o/ | 20:00 |
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johnsom | L7 merged in Octavia! | 20:00 |
blogan_mobile | Nope, just out and about | 20:00 |
xgerman | yeah!!! | 20:01 |
TrevorV | WOOT | 20:01 |
sbalukoff | YAAAAAY! | 20:01 |
xgerman | blogan_mobile I would say the same when I am towed ;-) | 20:01 |
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markvan | o/ | 20:01 |
sbalukoff | Now we need to get it merged in neutron-lbaas! (And yes, I'm working on that.) | 20:01 |
johnsom | Thanks to sbalukoff, rm_work, johnsom for hanging out into the evening last night to get that done | 20:01 |
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sbalukoff | Thanks to y'all for the extensive testing and code review. | 20:01 |
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sbalukoff | I didn't know this beforehand, but apparently it was 6000+ lines of code. | 20:01 |
xgerman | yeah, you guys rock!! | 20:01 |
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TrevorV | Yes, sbalukoff, twas a feat :D | 20:02 |
johnsom | It was fun to see 7+ patches chained up in the merge gate | 20:02 |
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johnsom | Priority patches needing review | 20:02 |
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johnsom | L7 tracking etherpad | 20:02 |
johnsom | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas-l7-todo-list | 20:03 |
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TrevorV | I may add the single-create review before this meeting is over. :) | 20:03 |
johnsom | There are still neutron-lbaas and CLI patches that need to merge. I think both have open bugs. | 20:03 |
xgerman | I think we have more than L7 | 20:03 |
xgerman | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282587/5 | 20:03 |
sbalukoff | Only a little left on that-- but note that post-L7 bugs have been captured in launchpad and aren't on that etherpad. | 20:03 |
johnsom | TrevorV Throw it in here | 20:03 |
xgerman | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282113/2 | 20:03 |
TrevorV | Will do | 20:03 |
sbalukoff | johnsom: You are correct. | 20:04 |
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xgerman | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284340/2 | 20:04 |
johnsom | There are still some open horizon patches too: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard+status:open | 20:04 |
xgerman | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/268237/7 | 20:04 |
madhu_ak | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172199/ | 20:04 |
minwang2 | this patch has been there for a while, it is good to go #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272344/ | 20:04 |
johnsom | I saw a demo of TLS via horizon panels today, so again, good progress. | 20:04 |
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xgerman | yep, horizon looks real good | 20:04 |
sbalukoff | johnsom: Given the feature freeze deadling next Monday, what are the high priorities to review to get in before the freeze? | 20:05 |
sbalukoff | TrevorV's single-create patch, and Min's anti-affinity patch? | 20:05 |
bharathm | sbalukoff: and cascade-delete as well | 20:05 |
sbalukoff | Oh! Cool-- that's ready for review? Great! | 20:05 |
madhu_ak | octavia scenario tests with tempest plugin here: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172199/ | 20:05 |
xgerman | cascading delete (see my patches) - Horizon needs that | 20:05 |
johnsom | Priorities off my head are: L7, horizon panels, get-me-an-LB, delete-me-an-LB, anti-affinity | 20:05 |
xgerman | s/delete-me-an-b/cascading-delete/g | 20:06 |
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sbalukoff | And the n-lbaas L7 and L7 CLI stuff. :) | 20:06 |
johnsom | Sorry for taking artistic license.... | 20:06 |
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sbalukoff | :) | 20:06 |
rm_work | o/ (sorry late) | 20:07 |
sbalukoff | I think that's all doable. | 20:07 |
xgerman | no worries — cascading delete is especially critical since we won’t get an extension per dougwig | 20:07 |
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sbalukoff | xgerman: Ok, good to know. | 20:07 |
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johnsom | Yeah, all of that is in-flight so definitely possible | 20:07 |
xgerman | yeah “orchestration” ... | 20:07 |
johnsom | #topic Octavia/glance coupling for images (ihar) | 20:08 |
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xgerman | ok, thanks for picking that up | 20:08 |
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johnsom | Ugh, it looks like we just lost him | 20:08 |
xgerman | basically uses glance-tags instead of image ids | 20:08 |
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xgerman | so you na change the image WITHOUT having to reboot the octavia control plane | 20:08 |
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johnsom | Yeah, so this is around being able to swap amphora images without restarts | 20:09 |
sbalukoff | Ok. | 20:09 |
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xgerman | downside you would couple closely with glance | 20:09 |
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blogan_mobile | Couldn't we just store the image ID in the dB to get that? | 20:09 |
johnsom | I had originally thought we would handle a signal to reload the octavia config. | 20:09 |
xgerman | so if you store your images elswhere | 20:09 |
sbalukoff | Doesn't seem like a bad idea. Though I will note that restarting the Octavia controler worker is not disruptive in most cases. | 20:09 |
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rm_work | yeah | 20:10 |
rm_work | since queue | 20:10 |
sbalukoff | But this is probably important if we want to realistically support multiple controller workers. | 20:10 |
xgerman | blogan_mobile yes, but that would be reinventing the wheel | 20:10 |
rm_work | but a signal wouldn't be bad either | 20:10 |
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johnsom | I'm not sure if the oslo service stuff makes signals easy or not | 20:10 |
dougwig | sbalukoff: it's likely a horizon error dialog down the road... | 20:10 |
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sbalukoff | johnsom: A signal to reload the octavia config is also probably a good idea. | 20:10 |
rm_work | but yeah, restarting the controller-worker isn't horrible -- except if it's mid-operation on something | 20:10 |
xgerman | task board? | 20:10 |
blogan_mobile | Job board | 20:11 |
rm_work | i don't know whether it immediately acks the queue, or if the job would go back on | 20:11 |
rm_work | JOB BOARD | 20:11 |
sbalukoff | job bored. | 20:11 |
johnsom | The signal would buy us being able to reload for reasons beyond image ID | 20:11 |
rm_work | >_< yes that'd do it | 20:11 |
sbalukoff | ;) | 20:11 |
rm_work | yeah i agree though johnsom, reload signal seems ideal | 20:11 |
xgerman | #action johnsom file reload in LP | 20:11 |
rm_work | this can't be uncommon | 20:11 |
sbalukoff | johnsom: +1 | 20:11 |
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rm_work | xgerman: i'm sure he already is doing it right now | 20:11 |
rm_work | :P | 20:11 |
xgerman | :-) | 20:11 |
sbalukoff | HAha! | 20:12 |
johnsom | Ok. We will work on a signal. | 20:12 |
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xgerman | ok, I also like the glance idea — but if we think it would be too tight a coupling we can add a driver... | 20:12 |
johnsom | Maybe revisit image tags in the future, but they make me nervous as I'm not sure I trust glance to pick the right one | 20:12 |
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blogan_mobile | I'd hate to see another driver interface for this | 20:12 |
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sbalukoff | And... well... maybe we don't need an 'image service' interface just yet? | 20:13 |
xgerman | why? we love driver interfaces… let’s vote on that | 20:13 |
sbalukoff | blogan_mobile: +1 | 20:13 |
johnsom | Well, technically *we* don't talk to glance today. That would be new... | 20:13 |
sbalukoff | Yep. | 20:13 |
sbalukoff | Exactly. | 20:13 |
johnsom | #topic octavia-health-manager requires a host-wise plugged interface to the lb-mgmt-net | 20:13 |
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johnsom | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/1549297 | 20:14 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1549297 in octavia "octavia-health-manager requires a host-wise plugged interface to the lb-mgmt-net" [Undecided,New] | 20:14 |
sbalukoff | I'm not sure I understand the issue here. | 20:14 |
johnsom | I'm not sure if there is someone to talk to this here. They said they might not be able to join today. | 20:14 |
sbalukoff | Granted, I spend most of the day in devstack, where that's set up already. | 20:14 |
sbalukoff | But it's true that in production: The controller worker and health monitor need to able to talk to the amphorae. | 20:15 |
johnsom | Basically they are proposing/asking about separation for the health manager receiver. I.e. namespace or such | 20:15 |
sbalukoff | That means either a host-plugged interface, or routing to the lb-mgmt-net. | 20:15 |
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johnsom | For both security and IP conflicts with other "host" networks where health manager might live. | 20:15 |
sbalukoff | That's not a bad idea... | 20:15 |
johnsom | That is my reading.... | 20:16 |
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sbalukoff | Ok. Maybe we talk about this when they can be here? | 20:16 |
xgerman | mine as well | 20:16 |
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sbalukoff | Just so we understand exactly what they mean? | 20:16 |
xgerman | I think it makes sense | 20:16 |
xgerman | they provide a picture | 20:16 |
sbalukoff | Aah. | 20:17 |
sbalukoff | Sorry-- I feel like I'm just not prepared to talk about it this week. | 20:17 |
xgerman | ok, we can punt it | 20:17 |
johnsom | Ok, so I'll tag it RFE. Please have a look and comment. | 20:17 |
TrevorV | 030091 | 20:17 |
TrevorV | RIP sorry wrong chat | 20:17 |
sbalukoff | (Not that my preparedness on this needs to be a deciding factor on whether we discuss it...) | 20:17 |
johnsom | sbalukoff +1, I need to read more | 20:18 |
sbalukoff | johnsom: Sounds good. | 20:18 |
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johnsom | #topic Mitaka blueprints/rfes/m-3 bugs for neutron-lbaas and octavia | 20:18 |
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fnaval | im in TrevorV! | 20:18 |
johnsom | dougwig Any you want to cover? | 20:18 |
johnsom | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bugs?field.tag=target-mitaka | 20:18 |
sbalukoff | We've got a lot to do there, though most of it doesn't seem too hard. | 20:19 |
johnsom | I have tagged bugs I think we should try to get fixed for Mitaka. Most aren't too hard/big. Some are L7 related | 20:19 |
sbalukoff | And we have two weeks after the feature freeze to squash as many of those as possible, right? | 20:19 |
dougwig | distracted by midcycle, but i'd like to hear the 2/29 status of get-me-an-lb and horizon ? | 20:19 |
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johnsom | #link http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/schedule.html | 20:20 |
sbalukoff | dougwig: both are under review now, looks like a good chance of landing by 2/29 | 20:20 |
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johnsom | March 14th would be RC1 | 20:20 |
xgerman | dougwig: cascade delete is close as well | 20:20 |
ajmiller | dougwig: regarding horizon, basic LB create workflow is in place, there are still several patches filling out functionality, fixing bugs, improving defaults, etc. | 20:21 |
dougwig | how are we defining close? for get-me-an-lb, the devil is in the corner cases. how are we testing that? for horizon, do we have an analysis of gaps from the old UI? | 20:21 |
rm_work | well, the corner cases would be bugs, right? | 20:21 |
dougwig | e.g., last i looked at horizon, it didn't support multiple providers. | 20:21 |
rm_work | and we have until RC1 :) | 20:21 |
dougwig | rm_work: in orchestration, the corner cases is the feature. | 20:22 |
sbalukoff | ajmiller: So, mostly "bugs" at this point? No major missing functionality (except L7, which we never had planned to have in the GUI by mitaka anyway) | 20:22 |
rm_work | dougwig: eh, what's a bug vs. a feature, REALLy? :P | 20:22 |
xgerman | so does Horizon need to land in sync with us? | 20:22 |
xgerman | they are their own project | 20:23 |
dougwig | do we want the packager's to include them? | 20:23 |
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xgerman | we should probably check with doug-fish what hey think | 20:23 |
xgerman | so let’s table it | 20:24 |
markvan | doug-fish is at mid cycle for horizon this week | 20:24 |
markvan | but they are making good progress...and would always like more reviewers | 20:24 |
sbalukoff | Cool! | 20:24 |
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dougwig | ass | 20:24 |
xgerman | yep, but do they want to be shipped on 2.29? | 20:25 |
dougwig | kevinbenton: typed that ^^ | 20:25 |
sbalukoff | Haha | 20:25 |
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markvan | you can create a LB via the new panels now...so add it to your devstack and kick the tires | 20:25 |
sbalukoff | markvan: will do! | 20:25 |
xgerman | markvan so you want us to say when it’s ready? | 20:25 |
xgerman | for packaging? | 20:26 |
xgerman | just trying to figure out who makes that call | 20:26 |
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dougwig | it's up to us to ping them. when do we think that'll be? | 20:26 |
xgerman | From what I have seen we likely need an extension | 20:27 |
xgerman | but would like their input — let’s ping them Monday after their midcycle | 20:27 |
markvan | yeah, doug-fish will have to answer one | 20:27 |
dougwig | ok | 20:27 |
sbalukoff | Ok. | 20:27 |
markvan | I'll remind him as well... | 20:27 |
xgerman | thanks markvan | 20:28 |
blogan_mobile | dougwig the get me a lb is not orchestration | 20:28 |
johnsom | #action xgerman to ping doug-fish on Mitaka-3 for dashboard | 20:28 |
xgerman | payback? | 20:28 |
* xgerman is the one who volun-tells | 20:28 | |
dougwig | blogan_mobile: it's a single unit in octavia? | 20:28 |
rm_work | dougwig: yes | 20:28 |
sbalukoff | xgerman: Haha! | 20:28 |
rm_work | well there will be a neutron-lbaas side too | 20:28 |
dougwig | right, ok, good. that one is easy, then. | 20:28 |
rm_work | but | 20:28 |
rm_work | they're technically independent | 20:28 |
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blogan_mobile | dougwig it's a single driver call | 20:29 |
johnsom | Ok, any other Mitaka-3 discussion? | 20:29 |
dougwig | blogan_mobile: right, because it's a single template splat for haproxy. got it. | 20:30 |
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johnsom | #topic Magnum with Neutron based networking | 20:30 |
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johnsom | I wanted to brink awareness to a kuryr spec: | 20:30 |
blogan_mobile | well since nlbaas is calling Octavia, Octavia API has to support it | 20:31 |
sbalukoff | Nice! | 20:31 |
johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269039/5/doc/source/specs/mitaka/nested_containers.rst | 20:31 |
sbalukoff | So is Magnum the particular container controller y'all are going to be going with? (I haven't looked at it closely yet) | 20:31 |
johnsom | This would be a good time to comment on hot-plugging neutron networks for the kuryr folks. | 20:31 |
sbalukoff | Sweet! | 20:31 |
johnsom | No, I can't speak to Magnum | 20:31 |
sbalukoff | Ok. | 20:32 |
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johnsom | They had some questions for octavia team and brought up the spec, so I figured I would share. | 20:32 |
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johnsom | @topic Converting LBaaS v1 objects to LBaaS v2 (neela) | 20:32 |
sbalukoff | Hot-plugging container interfaces would be rad. | 20:32 |
johnsom | neelashah1 Would you like to talk to this topic? | 20:33 |
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johnsom | It was added to the agenda today | 20:33 |
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johnsom | neelashah1 are you there? | 20:34 |
neelashah1 | johnsom:yes | 20:34 |
johnsom | Ah, great | 20:34 |
johnsom | Would you like to talk to your agenda item? | 20:34 |
neelashah1 | wondering if lbaas v1 and v2 can run in parallel? or if we would run into any conflicts with ips, etc? | 20:34 |
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neelashah1 | eseentially, can we convert v1 to v2 by bringing up both in parallel | 20:35 |
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dougwig | i'd personally like to be able to run both, as it would let me run fewer test jobs. | 20:35 |
dougwig | it's not currently supported | 20:35 |
sbalukoff | I think our docs say we don't support it. Does anyone remember the exact reasons that breaks? | 20:35 |
dougwig | did we insanely reuse some db tables or something? | 20:36 |
xgerman | we did | 20:36 |
sbalukoff | Riiiight. | 20:36 |
xgerman | and somebody told me “nobody is running LBaaS V1" | 20:36 |
neelashah1 | xgerman : more like nobody is running lbaas v2 (yet) ? | 20:36 |
neelashah1 | :) | 20:37 |
sbalukoff | At the time, that was essentially true. | 20:37 |
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xgerman | I guess releasing v2 spurred the adoption of v1? | 20:37 |
sbalukoff | Can't be helped if people write code to interface with obsolete, deprecated interfaces. :/ | 20:37 |
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blogan | dougwig: no we didn't reuse tables | 20:37 |
sbalukoff | xgerman: I think it was a timing thing: It took a while to implement v2. In the mean time, people moved forward with v1. | 20:38 |
dougwig | lots of people are running v1 | 20:38 |
blogan | the problems came because when running the v1 agent and v2 agent at the same time, there were conflicts | 20:38 |
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dougwig | not an issue now, right? | 20:38 |
sbalukoff | blogan: Do you recall what the nature of those conflicts was? | 20:39 |
blogan | plus v1 and v2 both have the resource pools, and even though their under different paths /lb/pools vs /lbaas/pools, the wsgi code would validate against the v1 pool structure as well | 20:39 |
johnsom | Just a reminder, we deprecated v1 in liberty | 20:39 |
blogan | if you made a v2 pool create call, and vice versa | 20:39 |
sbalukoff | johnsom: +1 | 20:39 |
sbalukoff | johnsom: I think Neela is asking because she's trying to move off v1. | 20:39 |
blogan | dougwig: the agent stuff would be an issue if the namespace driver is being run in v2 i believe, and the v1 and v2 conflicts would be an issue as well | 20:40 |
johnsom | Yeah, I understand, it just seemed like we were heading down the path of engineering a way to run both.... | 20:40 |
markvan | basic question will be how to get from running active v1 to v2. step 1 shutdown/delete v1 objects, step 2, build new v2 objects? | 20:40 |
neelashah1 | johnsom sbalukoff - understand - but for people who are on kilo and already using v1 (since v2 was just introduced in kilo) and now need to move to v2 | 20:40 |
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blogan | sbalukoff: i don't recall specifics for hte agent, but had to do with the v1 agent trying to process the a v2 load balancer | 20:40 |
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sbalukoff | markvan: That should be script-able. But nobody has written this script yet, and it is disruptive in any case. | 20:41 |
xgerman | now as we removed the namespace agent… it might work? | 20:41 |
blogan | when did we remove the namespace agent? | 20:41 |
johnsom | We didn't remove it, just disabled it in the devstack scripts | 20:41 |
blogan | yeah | 20:41 |
xgerman | sorry, wrong wording… but it might be that you can now run both together? | 20:42 |
xgerman | though the database is still a hack... | 20:42 |
blogan | xgerman: if v2 is running octavia it'll get around the agent issues | 20:42 |
sbalukoff | Nobody has tried in a while? | 20:42 |
neelashah1 | xgerman - so perhaps someone has to just try it out and see what happens? | 20:42 |
xgerman | yep | 20:42 |
blogan | but the pool requests being combined by the neutron wsgi layer will still be a problem | 20:42 |
xgerman | mmh | 20:42 |
markvan | so something like: delete v1 objects, shutdown v1 agents, start v2 agents and build the v2 objects. disruptive, but doable? | 20:42 |
sbalukoff | blogan: +1 | 20:43 |
blogan | and what about the database is a hack? | 20:43 |
johnsom | markvan do-able | 20:43 |
sbalukoff | markvan: Yes. | 20:43 |
xgerman | blogan, I think v1 can run on a v2 database but not vice versa | 20:43 |
xgerman | and objects in v1 m,ean different things in v2 | 20:43 |
blogan | xgerman: they're totally different tables, so the db doesn't matter | 20:43 |
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blogan | all v2 tables are preprended with lbaas_ | 20:44 |
xgerman | oh, ok | 20:44 |
blogan | v1 tables are just vips, pools, members, healthmonitors | 20:44 |
xgerman | well, so it might work to some degree | 20:44 |
blogan | not creating pools | 20:45 |
blogan | if v1 and v2 are both enabled | 20:45 |
johnsom | neelashah1 So, in summary, we don't know or have a tested upgrade path. | 20:45 |
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neelashah1 | ok, great - thanks for the discussion….johnsom balukoff blogan xgerman, we will see if its possible for us to try it out | 20:45 |
sbalukoff | Yep. the wsgi "pools" problem is a show-stopper for running both at the same time. There might be others. | 20:45 |
johnsom | Cool, let us know | 20:45 |
johnsom | #topic Security gate - Bandit | 20:46 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Security gate - Bandit (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:46 | |
sbalukoff | What is Bandit? | 20:46 |
johnsom | So, I had the pleasure of doing an internal security review of Octavia. | 20:46 |
sbalukoff | I'm so sorry. | 20:46 |
johnsom | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security/Projects/Bandit | 20:46 |
blogan | by pleasure do you mean misery? | 20:46 |
sbalukoff | Thanks, blogan-google. | 20:47 |
johnsom | You will see there are a few bugs recently added of things we should look at. I have started that already | 20:47 |
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blogan | what? | 20:47 |
xgerman | they only asked him easy questions “like how does it come you are so awesome" | 20:47 |
johnsom | One recommendation they had was to add the bandit gate to our project. | 20:47 |
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sbalukoff | johnsom: Oh cool! Are you going to transfer actionable stuff in there to launchpad? | 20:47 |
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johnsom | sbalukoff They are in launchpad now | 20:47 |
johnsom | The HMAC timing thing was one of them | 20:48 |
sbalukoff | I don't have a problem adding a bandit gate-- non-voting for now and let's see how it goes? | 20:48 |
xgerman | same here | 20:48 |
johnsom | Right, they offered to help us setup a non-voting bandit gate. I wanted to run it by you folks first. | 20:48 |
sbalukoff | Do eet! | 20:48 |
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xgerman | +1 | 20:48 |
minwang2 | +1 | 20:48 |
johnsom | They also mentioned there is a fine guide here: | 20:49 |
johnsom | #link http://docs.openstack.org/security-guide/ | 20:49 |
sbalukoff | I like the idea of not having obvious security problems in Octavia. We're a ways away from getting there, but we've got to start somewhere, right? | 20:49 |
johnsom | For common issues, etc. | 20:49 |
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johnsom | We actually came out in pretty decent shape. We do have work to do, but not bad. | 20:49 |
sbalukoff | Nice! | 20:49 |
johnsom | Ok, so if no objections, I will work with them to get the non-voting gate setup. | 20:50 |
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sbalukoff | I'm totally going to pre-emtively override blogan's objections. | 20:50 |
sbalukoff | Do it! | 20:50 |
johnsom | I'm going to skip progress reports, I think we covered that already. | 20:50 |
johnsom | #topic Open Discussion | 20:50 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:50 | |
fnaval | review requested pls: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172199/ | 20:50 |
johnsom | Did blogan object? I didn't see that | 20:50 |
fnaval | once it passes all gates | 20:50 |
blogan | i guess i object a lot :( | 20:51 |
fnaval | it's the reworked-reworked-reworked scearnio lbtest | 20:51 |
johnsom | Ok | 20:51 |
sbalukoff | No, I was just pre-emptively overriding his objects in case he objects. | 20:51 |
sbalukoff | objections. | 20:51 |
fnaval | it should be ok - sbalukoff I'll address the deprecated urls in subsequent changes | 20:51 |
blogan | i was actually thinking of objecting, bc or our current gate and job instability | 20:51 |
blogan | but its non-voting and we'll see what happens | 20:51 |
xgerman | well, our enemies will see all opera security bugs | 20:52 |
sbalukoff | See? Aren't you glad I pre-emptively gave you all permission to ignore that? | 20:52 |
sbalukoff | ;) | 20:52 |
blogan | we don't have opera security bugs! | 20:52 |
xgerman | our | 20:52 |
johnsom | Yeah, but non-voting should be ok. Plus the gate issues are high priority bugs. I think I have found some issues in the tests that may fix some of this | 20:52 |
sbalukoff | johnsom: I know I have. Am reeeeeally close to fixing some of that. | 20:52 |
sbalukoff | (Like, if I had 10 more minutes before this meeting.) | 20:53 |
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johnsom | sbalukoff I was going to update the httplib/urllib stuff. Is that the same you are working on? | 20:53 |
sbalukoff | fnaval: Good to know on the tempest test work! | 20:53 |
sbalukoff | For what it's worth... tempest testing isn't a "feature" right? So, we can potentially merge that at any time, right? | 20:53 |
fnaval | cool thanks please review when you get a chance | 20:53 |
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fnaval | I hope so! | 20:53 |
fnaval | blogan said that we should be able to | 20:54 |
blogan | sbalukoff: i'd ask supreme overlord dougwig on that | 20:54 |
fnaval | since it's tests | 20:54 |
xgerman | yeah, no deadline for that | 20:54 |
sbalukoff | johnsom: Nope, that's not what I'm working on. Feel free! | 20:54 |
blogan | fnaval: i said i wasn't sure | 20:54 |
johnsom | sbalukoff cool, I will put up a patch for neutron_lbaas/tests/tempest/v2/scenario/base.py this afternoon | 20:54 |
xgerman | I think we did it that way before | 20:54 |
fnaval | k check with dougwig - but please take a look at the tests anyway | 20:54 |
fnaval | johnsom: cool thanks johnsom | 20:55 |
sbalukoff | fnaval: +1 | 20:55 |
markvan | Just a reminder: | 20:55 |
markvan | #link for orchestration/heat the LBv2 resources ready for final push/reviews https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:master+topic:bp/lbaasv2-suport | 20:55 |
madhu_ak | with the same patch like fnaval said, we can run the tests using tempest-plugin. | 20:55 |
johnsom | Oh, sorry, I thought that had landed already | 20:55 |
sbalukoff | markvan: Oh, good to know! | 20:55 |
sbalukoff | We should try to get those in. | 20:55 |
sbalukoff | Or add our +1's. | 20:56 |
fnaval | madhu_ak: yep, thats for your changes to make that happen madhu_ak | 20:56 |
sbalukoff | ... it's going to be a busy few days here before Monday. :P | 20:56 |
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dougwig | sorry, midcycle distraction. what do i need to look at? | 20:57 |
johnsom | Yep. I will give the heat patches another pass. I have reviewed those once | 20:57 |
neelashah1 | sbalukoff : yes, +1 from the lbaas team will be appreciated to land the heat support for v2 | 20:57 |
neelashah1 | +1 johnsom, thanks | 20:57 |
fnaval | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172199/ dougwig | 20:57 |
sbalukoff | dougwig: Any deadline on merging tempest testing code in Octavia? | 20:57 |
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sbalukoff | dougwig: It's not a "feature" right? | 20:57 |
dougwig | sbalukoff: if i say yes, i get a false sense of pressure and more commits. if i say no, it's the truth. | 20:57 |
fnaval | ah ha | 20:58 |
xgerman | lol | 20:58 |
sbalukoff | dougwig: Haha! | 20:58 |
johnsom | Along those lines, do we want/need to cut an M3 octavia? | 20:58 |
sbalukoff | dougwig: Thank you for your honesty, eh! | 20:58 |
xgerman | johnsom no | 20:58 |
xgerman | I think final is good | 20:58 |
sbalukoff | xgerman: +1 | 20:59 |
johnsom | Works for me | 20:59 |
sbalukoff | I think my people are waiting on the final and probably wouldn't use M3 per se. | 20:59 |
xgerman | my people are three months behind... | 20:59 |
sbalukoff | Yeah... | 21:00 |
xgerman | ok, times out | 21:00 |
xgerman | o/ | 21:00 |
sbalukoff | Thanks, folks! | 21:00 |
fnaval | thanks! | 21:00 |
johnsom | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:00 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 24 21:00:29 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-02-24-20.00.html | 21:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-02-24-20.00.txt | 21:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-02-24-20.00.log.html | 21:00 |
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