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dprince | #startmeeting tripleo | 14:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 8 14:00:14 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dprince. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 14:00 |
derekh | yo | 14:00 |
EmilienM | o/ | 14:00 |
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saneax | o/ | 14:00 |
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leanderthal | o/ | 14:00 |
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jdob | o/ | 14:00 |
dprince | hi everyone | 14:00 |
bandini | \o | 14:00 |
shardy | o/ | 14:00 |
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trown | o/ | 14:00 |
rbrady | \o/ | 14:01 |
gfidente | o/ | 14:01 |
sshnaidm | o/ | 14:01 |
adarazs | hi | 14:01 |
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dprince | #topic agenda | 14:02 |
dprince | * bugs | 14:02 |
dprince | * Projects releases or stable backports | 14:02 |
dprince | * CI | 14:02 |
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dprince | * Specs | 14:02 |
dprince | * Changing default provisioning IP range: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289221 | 14:02 |
dprince | * Clear usage of parameters: in tripleoclient https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256670/ | 14:02 |
dprince | * open discussion | 14:02 |
dprince | That is our agenda this week. Anything else to add/subtract? | 14:02 |
derekh | add ci testenv node sizes | 14:03 |
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shardy | derekh: we need to revisit the mitaka branch discussion, I guess we can do that under the releases section | 14:03 |
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jaosorior | o/ | 14:03 |
shardy | sorry, dprince ^^ ;) | 14:04 |
d0ugal | o/ | 14:04 |
jtomasek | o/ | 14:04 |
akrivoka | hello \o | 14:04 |
shardy | d<tab> caught me out there | 14:04 |
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dprince | shardy: yes. that was on my mind as well. Lets do it in the stable branches | 14:04 |
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dprince | okay, lets go | 14:04 |
dprince | #topic bugs | 14:04 |
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dprince | lots of bugs on stable liberty around getting the network isolation passing | 14:05 |
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dprince | are we closing in on getting that working there? | 14:05 |
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slagle | i've merged everything | 14:06 |
slagle | theory is it should be passing now | 14:06 |
dprince | slagle: cool | 14:06 |
slagle | but we shall see, there are some jobs running | 14:06 |
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dprince | slagle: and on trunk we think we have the validations/swap issues fixed? | 14:06 |
dprince | slagle: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1553243 | 14:06 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1553243 in tripleo "CI: Resource CREATE failed: Error: resources.ComputeAllNodesValidationDeployment.resources[0]" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to James Slagle (james-slagle) | 14:06 |
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slagle | dprince: i think so, yes. if anyone sees it, please shout | 14:07 |
slagle | the patch to use the swap partition instead of file is still out there though | 14:07 |
dprince | slagle: yep, we can query logstash to verify it is gone I think | 14:07 |
dprince | slagle: link? | 14:07 |
slagle | but we can't land that until the swap partition template gets backported to liberty, which is also in progress | 14:07 |
slagle | dprince: https://review.openstack.org/289085 | 14:08 |
slagle | it's workflowed -1 until the liberty backport lands | 14:08 |
slagle | which is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289610/ | 14:08 |
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slagle | we ought to find a way to check our tripleo-ci changes on the stable branches :) | 14:08 |
dprince | hmmm, this is perhaps a reason not to share our CI branches across stable and upstream | 14:09 |
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slagle | yea | 14:09 |
slagle | either tripleo-ci is backwards compatible or we use branches | 14:09 |
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shardy | I think we should move tripleo.sh into tripleo-ci and have all CI scripts backwards compatible | 14:09 |
slagle | shardy: +1 | 14:09 |
gfidente | yeah I was for avoiding branches and making it backward compat too | 14:10 |
shardy | we'll need to agree a time to stop landing stuff to tripleo-common tho | 14:10 |
dprince | shardy: once upon a time TOCI had devtest scripts in it I think | 14:10 |
shardy | I posted https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272210/ which was in merge conflict in about 10 minutes ;) | 14:10 |
shardy | I can rebase it if we're in agreement the move should happen | 14:10 |
dprince | shardy: I'm fine w/ moving it to tripleo-ci | 14:10 |
dprince | any other bugs issues? | 14:11 |
derekh | lets rebase that, confirm the job started ok and then merge without waiting, identical tripleo.sh script | 14:11 |
shardy | Ok, I'll rebase it today | 14:11 |
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dprince | #topic Projects releases or stable backports | 14:12 |
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gfidente | shardy, derekh maybe make it depend on a change which removes it from tripleo-common too so that any chance which *was* editing tripleo.sh in -common will fail | 14:12 |
shardy | gfidente: Yup, good point, I'll do that too | 14:12 |
shardy | #link http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/schedule.html | 14:12 |
derekh | +1 | 14:12 |
dprince | okay. so this is where we should talk about https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-mitaka-rc-blockers | 14:12 |
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shardy | So, I know we had a heated debate about this last week | 14:12 |
shardy | but that blocker list keeps growing, and we have to decide when to branch | 14:13 |
dprince | shardy: lets triage the blocker list | 14:13 |
dprince | shardy: IPv6, upgrades, and one other thing | 14:13 |
derekh | IPv6 is blocked on a newer version of memcached | 14:14 |
gfidente | and python-memcached | 14:14 |
trown | we either need to do time based releases or feature based releases... not both | 14:14 |
derekh | rdo guys are going to build package in cloud sig | 14:14 |
trown | I would argue that the etherpad is really about downstream needs, and feature based releases would hose downstream worse | 14:14 |
dprince | trown: I agree | 14:14 |
shardy | trown: true, but all projects track landing things before deciding wnen it's a good time to branch | 14:14 |
marios | o/ also on a call sorry late | 14:14 |
shardy | that's why there's an RC period, but not a specific date | 14:15 |
trown | shardy: ya, but that etherpad is a bit extreme | 14:15 |
shardy | trown: Yeah, agreed | 14:15 |
dprince | the stress here is this etherpad came very late in Mitaka | 14:15 |
shardy | Yeah, we should do milestone releases and have a feature freeze next time around IMO | 14:16 |
trown | +1 | 14:16 |
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jdob | shardy: it sounds like everyone is on board for that in Newton, its just a matter of limping past Mitaka right now | 14:16 |
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shardy | yup, so ipv6 is blocked, any eta on the memcached stuff? | 14:16 |
trown | memcached should be resolved in a couple hours | 14:17 |
shardy | and what's the status re upgrades - I've seen a fair few patches but we don't seem to have a definitive list in the etherpad? | 14:17 |
dprince | my concern if we choose the date of say next Friday is people are still going to slam stuff in at this point, when we should actually be in a freeze already | 14:17 |
shardy | Ok, and there's been manual testing of ipv6, so that should be OK to land in the next week? | 14:17 |
derekh | shardy: apevec moved it into a card for March 10th https://trello.com/c/8xVahzfA/122-ipv6-support-investigate-redis-as-alternate-caching-engine | 14:18 |
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derekh | shardy: what trown said is better ;-) | 14:18 |
trown | derekh: I think number80 already built it, just waiting for repo sync | 14:18 |
derekh | trown: ack | 14:18 |
shardy | derekh: hehe, I just meant, sounds like that one is in-hand | 14:18 |
dprince | shardy: now that we have IPv4 net iso testing in our check jobs I don't think IPv6 is blocked. | 14:19 |
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dprince | shardy: it would give me a vote of confidence to see it passing here though first: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289445/ | 14:19 |
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shardy | dprince: I agree, and I'm not proposing a fixed date, but we need to burn down these blockers then decide when to branch | 14:19 |
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shardy | ideally that needs to be in the next 7-10 days | 14:19 |
gfidente | dprince, so the issue with memcached won't make it pass anyway | 14:20 |
shardy | who can provide the status re the upgrades patches - marios? | 14:20 |
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dprince | shardy: again, I'm not convinced we need to burn down all these patches. We can land some of it I think, but landing it all would be foolish | 14:21 |
shardy | the whole idea of a "blockers" etherpad was to identify those patches deemed critical for the release | 14:21 |
dprince | shardy: yeah, and it became a free for all I think | 14:22 |
shardy | given that we don't track anything in launchpad it's hard to track the status any other way? | 14:22 |
slagle | these are the "blockers" | 14:22 |
slagle | blocking what, i'm not sure | 14:22 |
slagle | but these are the things that need to be in liberty | 14:22 |
shardy | Ok, let me try again - how do we know when we can reasonably branch? | 14:22 |
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trown | ya I have yet to see an upstream argument for what these are blocking | 14:22 |
gfidente | personally I think it'd be nice to land the ipv6 patches in master before branching | 14:23 |
shardy | I mean, we could take a bunch of sha's from a passing periodic job, but I'm trying to be sympathetic to those trying to land stuff and coordinate better than that | 14:23 |
dprince | slagle: these are the things that need to be in liberty today (by someone's assessment) | 14:23 |
dprince | slagle: do we have a guarantee those needs aren't changing next week? or thereafter? | 14:23 |
slagle | dprince: i can't answer that. and you know who to ask who can answer it | 14:23 |
shardy | trown: what impact will it have from an RDO perspective if we branch without fully proven upgrade support landed? | 14:24 |
shardy | I'm assuming that would be considered a blocker for existing users, no? | 14:24 |
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EmilienM | should be blocker big interface changes, and non backward compatible stuff | 14:24 |
trown | shardy: RDO has never claimed to support upgrades | 14:25 |
dprince | shardy: unless we have a CI job on upgrades (in TripleO) I wouldn't claim it is working I think | 14:25 |
EmilienM | but small features can be backported I think | 14:25 |
shardy | EmilienM: for Mitaka we're trying to avoid feature backports, because they've been completely abused for liberty | 14:25 |
trown | shardy: I would agree with dprince, that until there is a CI job in RDO for upgrades, I would not claim RDO supports upgrades | 14:25 |
EmilienM | shardy: right, that's why I specified the "small" :-) | 14:25 |
slagle | my opinion was that we could branch after ipv6/upgrades was landed. and if needed, we backport fixes to mitaka and liberty | 14:25 |
shardy | most other projects don't allow feature backports, so it'll be clearer if we can try to do the same | 14:26 |
dprince | shardy: I'm inclined to try and land the larger patches around IPv6. Especially now that we know we aren't breaking IPv4 with those | 14:26 |
EmilienM | slagle: +1 | 14:26 |
slagle | i still don't understand the urgency to branch mitaka though, without rdo mitaka repos | 14:26 |
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slagle | trown: did we get an answer on that? | 14:26 |
EmilienM | ipv6 sounds like a big change everywhere, might be good to have it in stable/mitaka | 14:26 |
trown | +1 to limiting "blocker" to just ipv6/upgrades | 14:26 |
slagle | it makes no sense to me to just mitaka tripleo branches with trunk rdo repos | 14:27 |
shardy | slagle: would you propose we pin our CI to mitaka when all other projects branch then? | 14:27 |
shardy | because otherwise we have no way to know if we still work with mitaka, we'll be testing trunk/newton | 14:27 |
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trown | slagle: not sure I get the question... delorean will get branched as soon as oslo libs branch | 14:28 |
slagle | when is that I guess? | 14:28 |
EmilienM | shardy: pin to mitaka-passed-ci | 14:28 |
dprince | trown, slagle: could we perhaps take the RDO discussion in #rdo afterwards? | 14:28 |
trown | then mitaka delorean will be master of most projects, and will switch to stable/mitaka as it gets branced everywhere | 14:29 |
slagle | dprince: it's not an rdo discussion | 14:29 |
slagle | those are the repos tripleo-ci uses | 14:29 |
dprince | Do we have general consensus on just IPv6 and upgrades being blockers? | 14:29 |
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derekh | Where making this hard on ourselves because we don't want to make the same mistakes of backporting everything, why not land IPv6 and upgrades, then loosen temperarily the policy of no backports, but trust ourselves to to make it a free for all, ghave a predefined set of exceptions | 14:29 |
slagle | shardy: i propose not testing our mitaka branches against newton | 14:29 |
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EmilienM | imho, after RDO mitaka release, OOO CI should pin on this stable repo | 14:29 |
shardy | slagle: FWIW I was assuming we'd branch around the time RDO mitaka repos become available, not before | 14:30 |
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trown | http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/schedule.html says we should start having RC's next week | 14:30 |
dprince | slagle: sure, but eventually there will be branches we can switch to for Mitaka in RDO too | 14:30 |
slagle | shardy: me as well, that's what i was trying to figure out when that will happen | 14:30 |
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dprince | TripleO moves first, then RDO | 14:30 |
shardy | I just don't want to block trunk indefinitely, or continue testing our "mitaka" release against newton projects | 14:30 |
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shardy | derekh: that'd be fine, but we've failed to reach consensus re the exceptions, ref this etherpad list | 14:31 |
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dprince | Do we agree on IPv6 and upgrades as the blockers for branching? | 14:32 |
EmilienM | +1 | 14:32 |
trown | +1 | 14:32 |
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dprince | other issues can come in via (minor) backports if needed via a short window | 14:32 |
slagle | +1, along with the etherpad as the list of exceptions :) | 14:32 |
shardy | dprince: Yes, but there's no detail on what constitutes the patch dependencies for liberty->mitaka upgrades | 14:32 |
derekh | yup | 14:32 |
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slagle | a lot of things in the ehterpad are accepted exceptions anyway, they are bug fixes | 14:33 |
dprince | shardy: I would ask those driving upgrades to provide that pronto | 14:33 |
bnemec | I'm not sure they know yet. | 14:33 |
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dprince | bnemec: because it isn't finished you mean? | 14:34 |
dprince | or its a moving target? | 14:34 |
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bnemec | dprince: Well, probably both, but mostly because they won't know what problems they're going to hit until they get through all of them. | 14:34 |
bnemec | Based on the etherpad, it's also not clear to me that the people working on upgrades are even focused on Mitaka yet. | 14:35 |
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dprince | okay, so is upgrades as a blocker just a fictitious feature we are chasing. Sounds like only the upstream upgrades CI job will tell | 14:36 |
dprince | perhaps all we are really blocking on is IPv6 then, Upgardes by definition would need to be backported and fixed anyways | 14:36 |
bnemec | I should note that I've had almost no involvement in it, so if we can we should talk to someone who actually knows what's going on there. | 14:36 |
dprince | Alright, well we need to move on I think | 14:37 |
dprince | Lets continue the blockers discussion on #tripleo afterwards | 14:37 |
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dprince | #topic CI | 14:37 |
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dprince | Last week we rebuilt the testenv's to accomidate network isolation testing | 14:38 |
dprince | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288163/ | 14:38 |
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derekh | We got lots on transient errors on our CI jobs, I'm reckong if somebody spent long enough root causing them we could get to a better place we could improve things by changing nothing in CI envs but this alone is a full time job, (one I think somebody should be doing regardless of what we do) | 14:39 |
derekh | there have also been lots of calls to bump the RAM on the nodes we use in CI, I think we're at the point where to add 1G to each node, we'll have to reduce the number of envs available by 25% | 14:39 |
derekh | I mentioned in an email we could try this as an experiement, which we can if people want to, if it works we may end up needing less envs due to less rechecks | 14:39 |
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derekh | "experiment" suggests we can easily undo it, that mightn't be the case, once we bump the ram and add things that start using it then there may be no going back | 14:40 |
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slagle | i think we need less envs also due to cpu | 14:40 |
derekh | HA deployment in CI at the moment is 5+(4*4)=21G Memory, so essentially we're talking about bumping that to 26G | 14:40 |
slagle | so if we're going to have less we might as well give them more ram | 14:40 |
dprince | derekh: my concern is if we do this our upstream CI environment no longer represents something any of the developers can actually test on their own hardware | 14:41 |
slagle | i was just looking at a testenv host where the load was over 60 on the 15 minute average | 14:41 |
dprince | derekh: it is okay if we have some "large" testenv's I think. But maintaining at least one smaller testenv setup that is intended to guard the developer case is important too | 14:41 |
bnemec | O.O | 14:41 |
derekh | dprince: I wouldn't say any of the developers, but I take your point asnd its one of the reasons I was holding out | 14:41 |
shardy | dprince: a similar setup should still be possible with VMs on a 32G development box? | 14:42 |
dprince | shardy: how many TripleO core devs have a 32G box ATM | 14:42 |
bnemec | Developers aren't using 4 GB VMs anymore anyway, are they? | 14:42 |
* dprince doesn't | 14:42 | |
gfidente | talking about ram, is it really the overcloud nodes we would need to bump up or is it just the undercloud ? | 14:42 |
derekh | dprince: more then you'd think | 14:42 |
derekh | Hey, I've been asked recently 2 or 3 times by people joining tripleo what kind of dev env is needed, and I started listing options, I think may of us have a different setup anybody want to describe their setup here so we can point newcommers at it ? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-dev-env-census | 14:42 |
trown | I thought most devs have at least one 32G RAM box | 14:42 |
shardy | dprince: nearly everyone in this so far https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-dev-env-census | 14:42 |
shardy | dprince: and not all developers need to deploy HA regularly? | 14:43 |
jdob | bnemec: 4GB VMs don't really work; i tried a few days ago | 14:43 |
trown | that seems like a bare minimum to deploy HA | 14:43 |
bnemec | Public OVB cloud. Just sayin'. ;-) | 14:43 |
bnemec | jdob: Yeah, that's what I mean. | 14:43 |
jdob | bnemec: overcloud nodes fail in puppet and the undercloud shits itself after a few runs | 14:43 |
slagle | 4gb vm's definitely no longer works for the overcloud | 14:43 |
shardy | in reality I think most folks are using more ram locally than in CI already | 14:43 |
slagle | even with aodh reverted | 14:43 |
bnemec | The only reason we're getting away with it in CI is that we've tweaked the hell out of the config and the environment only stays up for about two minutes. | 14:43 |
jdob | side note, we should probably update those defaults | 14:43 |
slagle | you can just go look at the oom failures on the revert i pushed to remove the swap file :) | 14:43 |
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dprince | I have multiple boxes, but 32G is going to exclude anyone from outside of tripleO from contributing (and testing locally) unless they have hardware | 14:44 |
bnemec | Well, without HA you might still be able to fit undercloud + 2 overcloud nodes in 16 GB. | 14:45 |
dprince | This is why I think the nonha case makes a lot of sense. Or perhaps a single node "HA" installation (one controller) | 14:45 |
derekh | dprince: or access to the OVB cloud we're hoping to deploy, or another one | 14:45 |
shardy | bnemec: you can, I did it for my devconf demo (you may recall, it was slow tho due to some swapping) | 14:45 |
gfidente | single node HA is and has always been meant to work | 14:45 |
dprince | gfidente: if it isn't tested in our CI I'm not sure it does | 14:45 |
gfidente | so while one can't test failover and similar stuff, the resulting config matches 3 controllers | 14:46 |
dprince | gfidente: all I'm suggesting is that our CI represent what our minimum developer requirements actually are | 14:46 |
dprince | we can go above that for some jobs but not all of them | 14:46 |
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dprince | okay, well this was interesting but I'm not feeling like we need to debate anymore here | 14:47 |
slagle | i think at least 5gb oc vm's has got to the be minimum for both | 14:47 |
slagle | 4gb just doesn't work | 14:47 |
slagle | (without swap) | 14:48 |
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gfidente | so I think this is a topic which came up on the list too | 14:48 |
derekh | dprince: YBut our CI doesn't really represent minimum requirements, we've added swap to make it work and tweaked the overcloud to run less workers then default etc... | 14:48 |
dprince | I guess commenting on the email thread is the best way to follow up | 14:48 |
gfidente | we want more coverage and we need more ram | 14:48 |
jdob | i went overkill and went with 8 on this last build, but I can try 5-6 on the next ones and post how it goes | 14:48 |
bnemec | It's been a discussion at least since Atlanta. :-) | 14:48 |
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gfidente | derekh, is it really ram the limiting factor or are the nodes out of I/O on the disks too? maybe what we really need is more nodes, not more ram? | 14:49 |
dprince | derekh: I think we probably need to re-allocate the testenv's, I'm just not in agreement that we should drop nonha I think. Or perhaps arguing that a single node HA is perhaps just as important for some devs | 14:49 |
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derekh | dprince: I'm not talking about dropping any jobs | 14:50 |
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dprince | derekh: it was proposed on the list I think, that is why I mentioned it | 14:50 |
derekh | dprince: I'm talking about having slightly bigger testenvs but 25% less of them | 14:50 |
* derekh has done a U turn on his opinion here yesterday | 14:50 | |
dprince | derekh: right but wouldn't that potentially cause us capacity issues? | 14:50 |
derekh | dprince: The hope is that we would be running less jobs due to less rechecks | 14:51 |
slagle | derekh: +1 | 14:51 |
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gfidente | I think less testenvs means less iowait too | 14:51 |
derekh | dprince: but its a valid concern | 14:51 |
slagle | i think right now when we are running at full capacity, we are killing ourselves | 14:51 |
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dprince | yeah, well right now stable/liberty is taking up way too much capacity :/ | 14:52 |
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dprince | but sure I agree capacity has a hand in this | 14:52 |
dprince | okay, we need to move on. | 14:52 |
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dprince | Skipping specs this week | 14:52 |
adarazs | I have a question re adding IPv6 to a gate job: where to include it? is the ceph job fine as dprince suggested in the review? | 14:52 |
dprince | #topic Changing default provisioning IP range | 14:52 |
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dprince | jaosorior: is this your topic? | 14:53 |
dprince | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289221 | 14:53 |
jaosorior | dprince: It is. | 14:53 |
dprince | adarazs: starting with anyof them would be fine I think | 14:53 |
adarazs | dprince: okay. :) | 14:53 |
dprince | jaosorior: anything you want to say on this right now? | 14:54 |
jaosorior | So, thing is, the provisioning network was chosen on a network that violates rfc5737 and that breaks other tools if we try to integrate them using the default (such as FreeIPA) | 14:54 |
EmilienM | adarazs: maybe start "simple" with the ha job, and add ceph later | 14:54 |
jaosorior | I proposed changing it, but bnemec suggests we take that conversation here, as it might have implications regarding upgrades | 14:54 |
dprince | jaosorior: This has been our default for some time. We can look at changing it, but I sort of think this is a Newton thing | 14:55 |
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gfidente | (guys we just got all jobs green with netiso in liberty/ci https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287600/) | 14:55 |
dprince | gfidente: nice :) | 14:55 |
jaosorior | dprince: Well, that's fair enough for me | 14:55 |
EmilienM | gfidente++ excelent | 14:55 |
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dprince | okay, moving on | 14:56 |
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dprince | #topic Forcibly clear parameters now passed as parameter_defaults | 14:56 |
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dprince | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256670/ | 14:56 |
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dprince | gfidente: anything you want to mention here? | 14:56 |
gfidente | hey so purpose of that submission is to make sure the client clears parameters: | 14:57 |
gfidente | because it now always passes parameter_defaults: | 14:57 |
gfidente | but on update whatever was passed as parameters: preveals on parameter_defaults: | 14:57 |
gfidente | now the problem with that is that it will also clear our CinderISCSIHelper which in the templates defaults to tgtadm | 14:57 |
gfidente | while on our testenv it should default to lioadm | 14:58 |
dprince | gfidente: any side effects of this? | 14:58 |
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slagle | gfidente: i thought that patch only cleared parameters that were passed as cli args | 14:58 |
slagle | that's how it should build the list to pass to clear_parameters | 14:58 |
gfidente | so there are two solutions 1) we change the default in templates from tgtadm to lioadm or 2) we make distro-specific hiera preveal on templates as in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283712/ | 14:58 |
gfidente | slagle, hey man you wrote that patch too :P | 14:59 |
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gfidente | it does but it has some defaults it used to pass regardless | 14:59 |
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gfidente | amongst which there is lioadm | 14:59 |
slagle | gfidente: yea, a while ago :). i'll have another look | 14:59 |
bnemec | We should just change that default in the templates. None of our supported platforms right now have tgtadm anymore. | 15:00 |
dprince | gfidente: okay, thanks for this info. I think we can debate these things on the patch | 15:00 |
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gfidente | dprince, so the purpose is to let user-specified parameters passed as parameters: to preveal | 15:00 |
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dprince | bnemec: disagree, tgtadm is the cinder default | 15:00 |
dprince | times up though | 15:00 |
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dprince | thanks everyone | 15:00 |
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dprince | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:00 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 8 15:00:45 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-03-08-14.00.html | 15:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-03-08-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-03-08-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
tmorin | #startmeeting bgpvpn | 15:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 8 15:01:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmorin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'bgpvpn' | 15:01 |
tmorin | hi matrohon | 15:01 |
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tmorin | meeting is now :) | 15:01 |
tmorin | hi pcarver, timirnich | 15:01 |
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matrohon | tmorin, hi | 15:01 |
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tmorin | hi doude: joining us today ? | 15:02 |
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tmorin | about the agenda, I think we could discuss: Heat, release of a stable/liberty maintenance release, bagpipe as an OVS agent extension, ... | 15:04 |
tmorin | possibly more | 15:04 |
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tmorin | we're not many | 15:05 |
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tmorin | i think we can be quick | 15:05 |
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tmorin | we've recently merged a change by matrohon extending Heat support to router association | 15:05 |
tmorin | another change to improve Heat documentation | 15:05 |
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tmorin | and another one is under review to allow specifying bgpvpn and tenants by name in Heat definitions | 15:06 |
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tmorin | I would say that the Heat work is starting to be feature complete | 15:06 |
tmorin | any comment ? | 15:06 |
tmorin | #topic Liberty stable release | 15:06 |
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tmorin | I've created a request for a release on our stable/liberty branch | 15:07 |
matrohon | tmorin, great | 15:07 |
tmorin | this is needed because the 3.0.0 has a few ODL issues that are now solved in git | 15:07 |
matrohon | what number did you ask? | 15:08 |
matrohon | 3.0.1? | 15:08 |
tmorin | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/1554452 | 15:08 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1554452 in bgpvpn " Request release for networking-bgpvpn " [Undecided,Confirmed] | 15:08 |
tmorin | yes, 3.0.1 | 15:08 |
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tmorin | I've also tagged 3.0.1 the bugs for which 3.0.1 will have fixes | 15:08 |
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matrohon | ok, nice | 15:09 |
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tmorin | #topic bagpipe driver as an OVS agent extension | 15:09 |
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tmorin | a patch is ready for review for a change that removes the standalone modified OVS agent | 15:09 |
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tmorin | an instead provides an OVS agent extension | 15:10 |
tmorin | the work is ready and tested | 15:10 |
tmorin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281358/ | 15:10 |
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tmorin | matrohon: a review is now welcome :) | 15:10 |
matrohon | tmorin, ack, will do asap | 15:10 |
tmorin | matrohon: same about the Heat "allow names instead of ids in templates" change by the way | 15:11 |
tmorin | #link https://review.openstack.org/287119 | 15:11 |
tmorin | cool | 15:11 |
tmorin | thanks :) | 15:11 |
tmorin | comments ? | 15:11 |
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tmorin | #topic open discussion | 15:12 |
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tmorin | anything else ? | 15:13 |
matrohon | the bgpvpn talk has not been selected for the next summit :( | 15:13 |
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tmorin | ah yes | 15:13 |
tmorin | worth mentioning indeed | 15:13 |
tmorin | and it's unfortunate we don't even know why | 15:14 |
tmorin | an idea who we should ask to know better ? | 15:14 |
matrohon | I don't know who was selecting the talks.. | 15:15 |
matrohon | for the telco track | 15:15 |
tmorin | it would be nice to be able to find out... | 15:15 |
tmorin | we'll see | 15:15 |
matrohon | it seems we forgot the NFV buzz word ! https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Telecom+/+NFV | 15:16 |
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matrohon | tmorin, shouldn't you close the meeting? | 15:26 |
tmorin | ah yes | 15:26 |
tmorin | thanks "everyone" :) | 15:27 |
tmorin | #endmeeting | 15:27 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 8 15:27:16 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:27 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-03-08-15.01.html | 15:27 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-03-08-15.01.txt | 15:27 |
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adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 16:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 8 16:01:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:01 |
adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2016-03-08_1600_UTC Our Agenda | 16:01 |
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adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 16:01 |
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adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 16:01 |
coreyob | Corey O'Brien | 16:02 |
juggler | o/ | 16:02 |
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levi_b | Levi Blackstone | 16:02 |
dane_leblanc | o/ | 16:02 |
hongbin | o/ | 16:02 |
thomasem | Thomas Maddox | 16:02 |
rpothier | Rob Pothier | 16:02 |
jward | John Ward | 16:02 |
Tango | Ton Ngo | 16:02 |
sidx64 | Siddharth Shanbhogue | 16:02 |
strigazi | o/ Spyros Trigazis | 16:02 |
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muralia | murali allada | 16:02 |
adrian_otto | hello coreyob juggler levi_b dane_leblanc hongbin thomasem rpothier jward Tango sidx64 strigazi and muralia | 16:02 |
muralia | hi all | 16:02 |
sidx64 | Hi everyone | 16:03 |
juggler | hello | 16:03 |
eghobo | o/ | 16:03 |
fgimenez | hello everyone o/ | 16:03 |
adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 16:03 |
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adrian_otto | 1) Feature Freeze and String Freeze | 16:04 |
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adrian_otto | although we don't have a ton of features landing right now, we should set expectations for when we cut Mitaka | 16:04 |
adrian_otto | traditionally Feature freeze means bugs can be fixed, but new features can not be added without an approval from the PTL | 16:05 |
adrian_otto | the reason for this is to allow coordination across projects | 16:05 |
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adrian_otto | does anyone have any objections to setting the feature freeze date to Monday, March 14th? | 16:05 |
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adrian_otto | at that point we will fork the repo, and patches against trunk will need to be resubmitted against the new branch | 16:06 |
adrian_otto | in order to add that work to Mitaka | 16:07 |
adrian_otto | otherwise it will be part of the subsequent release | 16:07 |
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adrian_otto | I'm not hearing any objections, so I'm going to record this as an #agreed | 16:07 |
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adrian_otto | thoughts to share first? | 16:07 |
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adrian_otto | #agreed Magnum Mitaka Feature Freeze shall commence upon the creation of the Mitaka code branch from master on March 14th. | 16:08 |
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adrian_otto | now, similar topic for string freeze | 16:09 |
adrian_otto | this has to do with restricting what string literals can be changed. | 16:09 |
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adrian_otto | the purpose for this is to allow for translations into alternate locales | 16:09 |
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Tango | Does this include docs? | 16:09 |
adrian_otto | this will apply to our documentation, which is still incomplete, and set to Essential for Mitaka. | 16:09 |
Tango | ah ok | 16:10 |
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adrian_otto | Hard string freeze is also scheduled to be on March 14th | 16:11 |
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adrian_otto | any objections to that cutoff date? | 16:11 |
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adrian_otto | any objections or discussion prior to recording this as an #agreed? | 16:11 |
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thomasem | Sounds like agreement to me | 16:12 |
adrian_otto | #agreed Magnum's hard string freeze will commence on March 14th 2016 | 16:12 |
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adrian_otto | 3) Magnum will not be having a dedicated OpenStack Summit talk in the main track, as it had in two prior summits, however, several magnum related talks are scheduled in the Containers talk. | 16:13 |
adrian_otto | congratulations to those contributors who had talks selected | 16:13 |
adrian_otto | we will still have a bunch of spots in the Design Summit | 16:13 |
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adrian_otto | s/Containers talk/Containers track/ | 16:14 |
adrian_otto | any other announcements from team members? | 16:14 |
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adrian_otto | ok, let's review ai's | 16:16 |
adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 16:16 |
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adrian_otto | 1) thomasem to update team on progress on libvirt-lxc work | 16:17 |
adrian_otto | status? | 16:17 |
thomasem | bug opened about one of the issues https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1552740 | 16:17 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1552740 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Nova hard reboot fails to mount logical volume (LVM + libvirt-lxc)" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Thomas Maddox (thomas-maddox) | 16:17 |
thomasem | Had a few production issues that I had to divert my attention to after that. | 16:17 |
thomasem | So, didn't get to work on it any more. | 16:17 |
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adrian_otto | ok | 16:18 |
adrian_otto | is that the only known defect? | 16:18 |
thomasem | That and this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240611/1 | 16:18 |
thomasem | Sorry, let me get the bug associated | 16:18 |
thomasem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1191960 | 16:19 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1191960 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "force-delete of cinder volume errors with Can\'t remove open logical volume " [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Thomas Maddox (thomas-maddox) | 16:19 |
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thomasem | lvremove sometimes also fails | 16:19 |
thomasem | with device being busy | 16:19 |
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adrian_otto | because there are processes holding references to inodes on that volume? | 16:19 |
thomasem | I'm wondering if there's a Libvirt bug or two underneath all of this. | 16:19 |
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thomasem | It seems like it, however fuser/lsof don't really give me any indication as to what process. | 16:20 |
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thomasem | The fd just seemed to eventually die off over time | 16:20 |
adrian_otto | do you find entries in lsof that relate to that volume at all? | 16:20 |
thomasem | nope | 16:20 |
thomasem | It's like something orphaned in another namespace | 16:20 |
thomasem | or something else | 16:20 |
adrian_otto | oh, so probably something lower level than filesystem access | 16:21 |
thomasem | yeah, that's what I'm worried about | 16:21 |
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thomasem | It is a fairly old kernel now, fwiw. | 16:21 |
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thomasem | I haven't had this issue at all on 3.18.21 | 16:21 |
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adrian_otto | ok | 16:22 |
thomasem | Wondering if moving to another kernel in gate (new Ubuntu, or some other distro) might magically make these go away. | 16:22 |
adrian_otto | is there anything that other Magnum contributors may be able to assist you with, thomasem | 16:22 |
thomasem | Not unless one wants to dig in on either of these | 16:22 |
adrian_otto | thomasem: trying a different kernel in the gate sounds worth it to me | 16:22 |
thomasem | But they are Nova problems, specifically, with Libvirt/LXC | 16:22 |
thomasem | Yeah, I've seen far better behavior on upstream 3.x kernels | 16:23 |
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thomasem | than the Ubuntu ones | 16:23 |
thomasem | Even at the same version | 16:23 |
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adrian_otto | thanks for the update thomasem. | 16:23 |
thomasem | Sure thing | 16:23 |
adrian_otto | that was our only action item from last week | 16:23 |
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adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint Review | 16:23 |
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adrian_otto | Essential Blueprint Review | 16:23 |
adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/mitaka Mitaka Blueprints | 16:24 |
adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-troubleshooting-guide Troubleshooting Guide | 16:24 |
adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/user-guide User Guide | 16:24 |
Tango | We got the patch on etcd troubleshooting merged, thanks everyone for the review. | 16:24 |
Tango | There is a new patch on image management for review | 16:25 |
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adrian_otto | great! | 16:25 |
Tango | wangqun has volunteered to cover the section on storage in the user guide | 16:25 |
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Tango | She has been implementing most of that feature | 16:25 |
Tango | That's all from me | 16:26 |
adrian_otto | thanks Tango | 16:26 |
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adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/resource-quota Resource Qhota | 16:27 |
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adrian_otto | vilobh11 had been working on this | 16:27 |
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adrian_otto | it might make sense to push this into the next release cycle | 16:27 |
adrian_otto | thoughts on this? | 16:28 |
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adrian_otto | ok, I removed the targeting from Mitaka | 16:29 |
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adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-installation-guide Magnum Install Guide | 16:29 |
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adrian_otto | Spyros was working on this one | 16:30 |
strigazi | I'm working on it, and I pushed a patch-set https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288580 | 16:30 |
strigazi | I also created a blueprint under openstack-manuals | 16:30 |
adrian_otto | thanks for your work on this, strigazi | 16:30 |
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strigazi | this also needs review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289994/ | 16:31 |
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adrian_otto | so these are in two separate repos | 16:31 |
strigazi | yes | 16:32 |
adrian_otto | which means that we have two places to edit when we want to adjust this | 16:32 |
adrian_otto | might it make sense to make the one within the magnum repo a pointer back to the other? | 16:32 |
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adrian_otto | for DRY | 16:32 |
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strigazi | I'm not sure, but to have something in openstack-manuals it must be in docs-specs too | 16:33 |
adrian_otto | what have other projects done? | 16:33 |
strigazi | there is something similar for manila | 16:33 |
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strigazi | eg https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/create-manila-install-guide | 16:34 |
strigazi | the guide's specs is in docs-specs | 16:35 |
adrian_otto | ok, so reviewers will need to take note that if future patches surface against the install docs, that the copy over in openstack-manuals will also need equivalent updates. | 16:35 |
adrian_otto | are our reviewers okay with that? | 16:35 |
Tango | We can put a note in the BP | 16:36 |
adrian_otto | but that will get closed out upon release | 16:36 |
adrian_otto | I'm thinking forward to when today is a distant memory | 16:36 |
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Tango | Comment in the doc? | 16:36 |
vilobhmm11 | how about a note is added in commit message will that help | 16:36 |
adrian_otto | to avoid drift between those two references… probably a comment in the doc. | 16:36 |
strigazi | ok, I'll check what they did in manila as well | 16:37 |
adrian_otto | and maybe a tech-debt bug to remove our copy and replace it with a link to openstack-manuals upon mutually agreed maturity of the text (slow rate of change) | 16:37 |
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adrian_otto | thanks strigazi | 16:38 |
strigazi | you're wellcome | 16:39 |
adrian_otto | ok, that concludes the essential blueprints | 16:39 |
adrian_otto | Blueprints, Bugs, Specs, and other work items to be discussed as a team | 16:39 |
adrian_otto | last week we touched on 1) swarm related heat templates (for storage support) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275034/ | 16:39 |
adrian_otto | there is news here | 16:40 |
adrian_otto | docker 1.10.x has a patch that eliminates the bug requiring selinux to be disabled | 16:40 |
adrian_otto | so this patch can be reworked to use that fixed code and I will be able to lift my -2 vote | 16:40 |
adrian_otto | special thanks to Dan Walsh from Redhat for helping us | 16:41 |
adrian_otto | any other comments on this one? | 16:41 |
coreyob | fyi, I think se_linux got disable agend | 16:41 |
coreyob | again | 16:41 |
coreyob | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289626/ | 16:41 |
vilobhmm11 | yup thats right | 16:42 |
juggler | should I keep pressing forward with my efforts, or is that a different topic? | 16:42 |
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adrian_otto | juggler: I will regroup with you after | 16:42 |
juggler | got it | 16:42 |
eghobo | it looks like most Kub deployments prefer to stay with 1.8.2 | 16:42 |
hongbin | It looks the k8s bay is not functioning if selinux is enabled. The root cause is unknown | 16:43 |
Tango | eghobo: Is it because of stability in later release? | 16:43 |
adrian_otto | which version of docker is in that non-functioning config? | 16:43 |
hongbin | Not sure exactly. It is from the *-5 image | 16:44 |
Tango | we have docker 1.8.1 | 16:44 |
eghobo | no, networking. docker is running dns server inside now ;). in theory everything it should work, but i never tried | 16:44 |
adrian_otto | ok, lets form a tiger team to burn this problem down. | 16:45 |
adrian_otto | I volunteer to help | 16:45 |
adrian_otto | juggler: do you have time to work on it? | 16:45 |
hongbin | For reference, here is the bug | 16:45 |
hongbin | #link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1551648 | 16:46 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1551648 in Magnum "k8s podmaster doesn't work" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to hongbin (hongbin034) | 16:46 |
adrian_otto | thanks hongbin | 16:46 |
adrian_otto | so hongbin, let's start up an ML thread explaining the problem | 16:46 |
hongbin | sure | 16:46 |
adrian_otto | and do some initial troublehsooting together | 16:47 |
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juggler | aotto: we can chat about it during the regroup | 16:47 |
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adrian_otto | we can pull in help as needed. I asked juggler to investigate ways to avoid disabling selinux by policy building | 16:47 |
adrian_otto | thanks juggler | 16:47 |
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adrian_otto | the easiest way to troubleshoot this is to put the host into permissive mode, and look at the /var/log/audit.log file | 16:48 |
adrian_otto | and find out what the action policy violations are | 16:48 |
adrian_otto | 3) thomasem to get Libvirt/LXC Nova gate test to voting | 16:49 |
adrian_otto | you updated us earlier on the work in nova | 16:49 |
adrian_otto | any work to report within Magnum? | 16:49 |
thomasem | I believe coreyob tried to get Magnum func tests working with Libvirt/LXC and had significant image issues | 16:49 |
adrian_otto | coreyob: what's happening there? | 16:50 |
thomasem | He could give you more details, but in order to accomplish that we'll need to roll a custom image atm. | 16:50 |
coreyob | yeah I looked into a bit and stopped at the point of having to convert the atomic images to something that woudl work with the lxc driver | 16:50 |
thomasem | Not sure if that's desired. | 16:50 |
coreyob | the atomic images are multi-partition with lvm and not ext4 which are in conflict with the lxc driver's expectations | 16:51 |
adrian_otto | I see | 16:51 |
coreyob | pretty sure we can work around that, but I didn't actually do the work to prove that | 16:51 |
adrian_otto | is this somethign you have tabled, or are you planning to keep on with it? | 16:51 |
coreyob | tabling it for now until the team is confident enough with the lxc driver to move forward with that idea | 16:52 |
adrian_otto | I don't remember any other viable options to get our functional gate tests to execute quickly enough | 16:52 |
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adrian_otto | the only other alternative I can think of is to use the 3rd party CI facility to to the func tests on bare metal hosts | 16:53 |
coreyob | unless infra gives us bigger VMs :) | 16:53 |
adrian_otto | it's not so much the size but the speed of them… particularly the IO performance | 16:53 |
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coreyob | last time we discussed it there were some hesitations about using the libvirt/lxc driver from nova because it wasn't as maintained | 16:53 |
adrian_otto | we are short on time, so I will take this to the ML as well, and pull in openstack-infra | 16:53 |
coreyob | sounds good | 16:54 |
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adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to start an ML thread about Magnum functional gate tests taking forever to execute in OpenStack CI. | 16:54 |
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adrian_otto | we have a topic on the agenda: Bay node OS support in Magnum, but I am reluctant to raise this for discussion because we don't have time today to cover it adequately | 16:55 |
adrian_otto | so I am planning to table that until next meeting, and move it higher into the agenda | 16:55 |
thomasem | Sounds good | 16:55 |
adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 16:55 |
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sidx64_ | Hey all, I'm working on documenting my attempts at configuring and deploying magnum on RDO with mesos and marathon. Can I help with this in regards to the magnum install guide? Also, wondering if I could reach someone who has worked on this set up (magnum with mesos marathon) | 16:55 |
juggler | x2 with thomasem | 16:55 |
adrian_otto | sidx64_: yes, we welcome your participation | 16:56 |
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adrian_otto | sidx64_: I know hongbin has a ton on his plate, but he may be able to offer a pointer or two there. | 16:57 |
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hongbin | sidx64_: Yes, feel free to ping me in the IRC | 16:57 |
adrian_otto | in #openstack-containers | 16:57 |
hongbin | yes | 16:58 |
sidx64_ | Thank you adrian_otto and Hong bin. Thanks a ton. | 16:58 |
adrian_otto | and let's do our best to capture the insight that sidx64_ learns, and codify that into our docs | 16:58 |
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adrian_otto | sidx64_: we would really appreciate your help in making it easier for those who come after you | 16:58 |
adrian_otto | ok, we are approaching the end of our scheduled meeting time | 16:59 |
sidx64_ | I'll share my documentation with you as soon as I have it up. I have shared a rough draft for setting up magnum with mvelten once.but that needs extensive changes now. | 16:59 |
sidx64_ | Thank you | 16:59 |
adrian_otto | our next team meeting will be 2016-03-15 at 1600 UTC here in #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:59 |
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adrian_otto | see you all then! | 17:00 |
adrian_otto | thanks for attending | 17:00 |
adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 8 17:00:10 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
sidx64_ | Thank you | 17:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-03-08-16.01.html | 17:00 |
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openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-03-08-16.01.txt | 17:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-03-08-16.01.log.html | 17:00 |
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juggler | thanks ao | 17:00 |
adrian_otto | ;-) | 17:00 |
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