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| ndipanov | any sriov folks around? | 12:59 |
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| lbeliveau | I'm here | 13:06 |
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| moshele | lbeliveau: hi | 13:06 |
| lbeliveau | moshele: hi ! | 13:06 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: I am not sure if we have meeting today | 13:07 |
| lbeliveau | ndipanov is suppose to join, I ping him earlier | 13:07 |
| moshele | ok, cool | 13:07 |
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| ndipanov | ok | 13:08 |
| ndipanov | let's start | 13:08 |
| ndipanov | #startmeeting sriov | 13:08 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 15 13:08:44 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ndipanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:08 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:08 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sriov' | 13:08 |
| ndipanov | ok so I guess we could see where we stand on bugs... | 13:09 |
| ndipanov | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sriov_meeting_agenda | 13:09 |
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| lbeliveau | for my cold migration bug (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242573/17), I had to -1 myself, something got broken | 13:09 |
| ndipanov | there were 3 bugs we were hopping to get into mitaka | 13:10 |
| ndipanov | lbeliveau, ah yes I saw that | 13:10 |
| vladikr | Hi everyone | 13:10 |
| ndipanov | hello | 13:10 |
| lbeliveau | Hey | 13:10 |
| moshele | hi | 13:11 |
| ndipanov | vladikr, what's up with this one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283198/4 | 13:11 |
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| vladikr | ndipanov, it merged i think | 13:12 |
| vladikr | sec | 13:12 |
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| ndipanov | ah nice was looking at an outdated revision | 13:12 |
| vladikr | yea :) | 13:12 |
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| lbeliveau | nice | 13:12 |
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| ndipanov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216049 merged too! | 13:14 |
| lbeliveau | yeap | 13:14 |
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| lbeliveau | I still need to open a new bug on this issue related to migration | 13:15 |
| ndipanov | lbeliveau, how come? | 13:15 |
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| lbeliveau | I think something got broken, on devstack, I see a PCI device get allocated on the destination node, but it's not saved with the instance, so my stuff in neutronv2 don't see the new PCI devices | 13:16 |
| lbeliveau | still need to troubleshoot, but was side tracked | 13:16 |
| ndipanov | lbeliveau, ah you think you've hit a new bug | 13:16 |
| ndipanov | ok I see | 13:16 |
| ndipanov | well that's good that we are finding bugs I guess :) | 13:17 |
| ndipanov | if there are no more (known) bug fixes we wanna rush in | 13:17 |
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| ndipanov | we can talk briefly about | 13:17 |
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| ndipanov | THE FUTURE | 13:17 |
| ndipanov | aka newton work we wanna try and get done | 13:17 |
| lbeliveau | I was not seeing that before, but I haven't run my patch in devstack for a while since the fixes I was making only needed tox | 13:17 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: l can try your patch on my setup | 13:17 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: it will take me sometime to prepare one | 13:18 |
| lbeliveau | moshele: that would be great, but I won't be able to resume this activity until next couple of days | 13:18 |
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| yonglihe | lbeliveau: i hope i can help to review your code several days later, is that too late? | 13:19 |
| lbeliveau | yonglihe: no, it's not too late, I have to fix a related bug before I can submit this one | 13:20 |
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| ndipanov | yonglihe, hi - I saw you mentioned some fixes for cold migration on the ML the other day | 13:20 |
| yonglihe | lbeliveau: ok, let's do that. i spend lots of time debug the PCI migration itself, hop i can help | 13:20 |
| ndipanov | could that be what's tripping lbeliveau up? | 13:20 |
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| yonglihe | lbeliveau: my patch is too old, and logic is urgly | 13:21 |
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| lbeliveau | not sure why I saw it working before (many times), maybe I was jsut getting lucky or something changed on master | 13:22 |
| ndipanov | when I was looking at the code last which was a few weeks ago | 13:23 |
| ndipanov | I think I conclude that it would not work as expected | 13:23 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: we tested in QA your patch and it worked, but it was like 2 month ago | 13:23 |
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| lbeliveau | moshele: ok so that might confirm that something got broken | 13:24 |
| lbeliveau | anyhow, it means we don't have a unit test for that :) | 13:24 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: the test was put 2 vm on 2 different computes and the migrate one of them | 13:24 |
| lbeliveau | moshele: sounds right, and it's best to use PCI devices with different PCI addresses to make sure new ones a allocated on the destination node | 13:25 |
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| lbeliveau | I'll work on it in a couple of days and will get back to you guys with my findings (and questions) | 13:26 |
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| ndipanov | cool | 13:28 |
| ndipanov | anything regarding newton we wanna talk about here | 13:28 |
| ndipanov | ? | 13:28 |
| moshele | yes I have these spec Add scheduling with NIC capabilities https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286073/ | 13:29 |
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| lbeliveau | moshele: I' | 13:29 |
| lbeliveau | I'll have a look | 13:29 |
| moshele | so we want that nova will be aware of NIC capabilities for scheduling | 13:30 |
| ndipanov | moshele, I will too | 13:30 |
| lbeliveau | we want to propose a BP to make it easier to use SR-IOV, by combining the neutron port creation and the boot in one step | 13:30 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: we had something like this before but it was rejected | 13:32 |
| ndipanov | moshele, so this has been discussed before but I'll take a look | 13:32 |
| ndipanov | and comment | 13:32 |
| ndipanov | lbeliveau, that sounds useful | 13:32 |
| ndipanov | moshele, how come? | 13:32 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: let me look for the spec a sec | 13:32 |
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| moshele | see this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138808/ | 13:33 |
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| ndipanov | moshele, I know there are folks who would hate to have that kind of logic live in nova | 13:35 |
| lbeliveau | moshele: that looks very similar to what we wanted to propose ! we actually have something like that in our product | 13:35 |
| lbeliveau | ndipanov: what is their argument ? | 13:35 |
| lbeliveau | it can also avoir race condition issues when two isntances are trying to bind to the same SR-IOV port | 13:36 |
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| ndipanov | well that nova should not do any sort of orchestration like that and that it's up to user scripts/heat etc. | 13:36 |
| ndipanov | I could see arguments for both personally | 13:36 |
| lbeliveau | ndipanov: I see, but using heat and all doesn't make it easier to use, if usability is a concern | 13:37 |
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| moshele | when I was in vancouver summit it seems that everyone of the cores was against it | 13:38 |
| ndipanov | lbeliveau, yeah | 13:38 |
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| ndipanov | moshele, yeah - I don't feel too strongly there are good arguments against it | 13:38 |
| lbeliveau | should we try again ? | 13:38 |
| ndipanov | though | 13:38 |
| lbeliveau | or it is a lost cause ? | 13:38 |
| ndipanov | if you have the energy - I would | 13:38 |
| ndipanov | neutron is slightly different I'd say | 13:38 |
| ndipanov | since in order for SR-IOV to work | 13:39 |
| ndipanov | you need to configure nova properly too | 13:39 |
| ndipanov | so some automation around that could be useful regardless of the "policy" | 13:39 |
| ndipanov | I guess | 13:39 |
| vladikr | I had a similar problem with another spec at that time.. the main argument was that the setting it to specific - and they wanted me to use some kind of an abstraction | 13:39 |
| vladikr | instead of queues=8, use the term "fast" or anything like that | 13:40 |
| vladikr | wasn't very useful in my case | 13:40 |
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| ndipanov | vladikr, that's not necessarily the same thing though | 13:42 |
| lbeliveau | not sure for newton, but we still haven't got a way to boot with SR-IOV with horizon | 13:42 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: but this can be fix in horizon | 13:42 |
| ndipanov | lbeliveau, how come - we can't create an sri-ov port via horizon? | 13:42 |
| lbeliveau | ndipanov: I looked last week and I didn't found a way, maybe just an oversight on my part | 13:43 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: I know we can create direct port in horizon, I am not sure if we can select a port for vm boot | 13:43 |
| lbeliveau | moshele: will have a closer look next time I have a devstack running | 13:44 |
| moshele | beliveau: also I think that horizon has a bug on that | 13:44 |
| ndipanov | that sounds like a good fix to have for sure | 13:44 |
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| vladikr | If we still have time to talk about bugs, there is one that I've ran into yesterday, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291847/ - looks like it stops claiming pci devices in claim_test. I thought we are claiming the devices on purpose, to avoid a race ? (maybe we are not cleaning , but that's a different story ) | 13:46 |
| ndipanov | should we raise a bug for the horizon issue? | 13:46 |
| lbeliveau | ndipanov: I'll have a look, and if it is indeed a bug I'll take the action of raising one | 13:47 |
| ndipanov | vladikr, that sounds like a regression | 13:47 |
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| ndipanov | lbeliveau, thanks | 13:47 |
| ndipanov | if it's a regression we should hold up the RC for that | 13:47 |
| ndipanov | so I propose you raise the priority to critical | 13:47 |
| ndipanov | and tag the bug just in case | 13:47 |
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| ndipanov | vladikr, but just from a brief look I'm not sure it needs to do that there... | 13:48 |
| ndipanov | will look closer | 13:48 |
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| mriedem | i've marked https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1549984 as mitaka-rc-potential | 13:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1549984 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "PCI devices claimed on compute node during _claim_test()" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Jay Pipes (jaypipes) | 13:49 |
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| ndipanov | mriedem, thanks | 13:49 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: ty | 13:49 |
| ndipanov | lurkers | 13:50 |
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| mriedem | :) | 13:50 |
| yonglihe | mriedem: hi | 13:51 |
| yonglihe | good morning, mriedem | 13:52 |
| mriedem | hi | 13:52 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: horizon bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1402959 | 13:52 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1402959 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Support Launching an instance with a port with vnic_type=direct" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Itxaka Serrano (itxakaserrano) | 13:52 |
| lbeliveau | moshele: thanks, good ! | 13:53 |
| yonglihe | i might get wrong message, do you ever want sriov-test comments to nova? | 13:53 |
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| lbeliveau | yonglihe, what do you mean ? | 13:53 |
| mriedem | yonglihe: i'm assuming you're asking about 3rd party CI? | 13:53 |
| yonglihe | mriedem: you might just want NFV test recheck a patch? yes third-party CI | 13:54 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: are you in open discussion? i don't want to derail your meeting | 13:54 |
| lbeliveau | yonglihe: intel-pci ? | 13:54 |
| ndipanov | mriedem, I think we are probably done? | 13:54 |
| ndipanov | folks? | 13:54 |
| lbeliveau | I'm good | 13:55 |
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| moshele | I think so | 13:55 |
| mriedem | yonglihe: let's talk in -nova | 13:55 |
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| ndipanov | ok folks thanks for the meeting | 13:56 |
| ndipanov | #endmeeting sriov | 13:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 15 13:56:51 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-03-15-13.08.html | 13:56 |
| lbeliveau | thanks, ttyl | 13:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-03-15-13.08.txt | 13:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-03-15-13.08.log.html | 13:56 |
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| derekh | #startmeeting tripleo | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 15 14:00:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is derekh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | o/ | 14:00 |
| jdob | o/ | 14:00 |
| michchap | o/ | 14:00 |
| jaosorior | o/ | 14:00 |
| slagle | Hi | 14:00 |
| dprince | hi | 14:01 |
| adarazs | \o | 14:01 |
| bnemec | o/ | 14:01 |
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| derekh | Hi all, dprince isn't around today so I'm gonna try and not mess this up ;-) | 14:01 |
| EmilienM | derekh: you have all our support ! | 14:02 |
| rwsu | hi | 14:02 |
| derekh | #topic agenda | 14:02 |
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| jrist | o/ | 14:02 |
| derekh | * bugs | 14:02 |
| derekh | * Projects releases or stable backports | 14:02 |
| derekh | * CI | 14:02 |
| derekh | * Specs | 14:02 |
| derekh | * open discussion | 14:02 |
| derekh | That is our agenda this week. Anything else to add/subtract? | 14:02 |
| derekh | shardy isn't able to make it bug want us to discuss the timeline re mitaka branching, so we'll discuss that in "Projects releases or stable backports" | 14:02 |
| derekh | anything else ? 2 minutes | 14:02 |
| saneax | o/ | 14:03 |
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| derekh | #topic bugs | 14:03 |
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| * dprince is in another meeting, but lurks if needed | 14:03 | |
| derekh | ok, any bugs need to be getting attention ? | 14:04 |
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| derekh | ok, looks like nothing major to be brought up here | 14:05 |
| derekh | * Projects releases or stable backports | 14:06 |
| derekh | #topic Projects releases or stable backports | 14:06 |
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| derekh | Let discuass projects needing releases first | 14:06 |
| derekh | then liberty stable branhces | 14:06 |
| derekh | and finally Mitaka branches | 14:06 |
| derekh | So do any projects need releases ? | 14:06 |
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| derekh | is this mic on ? | 14:06 |
| slagle | i planned on doing liberty releases today | 14:07 |
| derekh | slagle: ok, this that of a particular project/s ? or a bunch of them ? | 14:07 |
| slagle | we will need to do master releases after we branch mitaka | 14:08 |
| slagle | derekh: anything needing it | 14:08 |
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| slagle | so that we bump the major version on master | 14:08 |
| derekh | #action slagle to do liberty releases where needed | 14:08 |
| derekh | slagle: make sense | 14:08 |
| derekh | #info master releases needed once we branch mitaka | 14:09 |
| slagle | i think we can branch mitaka this week, if there are no objections | 14:09 |
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| slagle | we still need to land aodh/gnocchi on master first though | 14:09 |
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| derekh | so befor moving onto the timing of the mitaka branch anything else need to be brought up about liberty ? | 14:09 |
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| EmilienM | branching mitaka this week sounds very early | 14:10 |
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| derekh | Ok, moving on to mitaka so | 14:10 |
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| derekh | This was the list of blockers we had for creating the Mitaka branches https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-mitaka-rc-blockers | 14:11 |
| derekh | hows it looking now, somebody(slagle?) mentioned yesterday aodh was the only outstanding thing, if so is it close to merging so we can branch? | 14:11 |
| slagle | aodh is close to merging | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | I'm wondering if getting IPV6 testing in CI is a blocker to branch Mitaka | 14:11 |
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| slagle | the dependent patch has passed CI a few times | 14:12 |
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| slagle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289435/ | 14:12 |
| slagle | the depends-on aren't passing though | 14:12 |
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| slagle | i think there are some circular deps, so we might need to merge it all at once | 14:13 |
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| bnemec | We should also merge https://review.openstack.org/290570 before branching. | 14:13 |
| adarazs | EmilienM: the IPv6 gate passed the overcloud creation, now it has a weird error in the after deploy test with image upload. | 14:13 |
| adarazs | EmilienM: so I'd say it's not too far from working. | 14:13 |
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| derekh | slagle: ack, if the patches are sane, I'm happy to merge together | 14:14 |
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| derekh | bnemec: +2 | 14:14 |
| EmilienM | are we going to manage keystone resource with Puppet in stable/mitaka ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244162/ | 14:14 |
| bnemec | I don't think CI needs to block branching. We don't branch tripleo-ci so we can keep working on CI jobs after the branch happens. | 14:14 |
| EmilienM | it's to me, a big change and we need to whether decide if we wait for it or not | 14:15 |
| EmilienM | bnemec: right. | 14:15 |
| bnemec | Unless lack of a CI job is blocking a functional change merging. | 14:15 |
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| marios | o/ | 14:15 |
| slagle | EmilienM: that is a good question. someone would need to drive it forward getting it landed | 14:15 |
| EmilienM | AFIK the blocker to land it was upgrade | 14:16 |
| bnemec | Yeah, the patch is broken right now. | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | I can work on it (again) if you want | 14:16 |
| derekh | EmilienM: RE "branching mitaka this week sounds very early" , I disagree here now that RDO has a mitaka repository we should us it, if we don't we'll be developing mitaka tripleo against master openstack | 14:16 |
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| EmilienM | derekh: I was just comparing with other OpenStack projects | 14:16 |
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| EmilienM | bnemec: I can try (again) to take over this one | 14:17 |
| slagle | personally, i think we could branch without https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244162/, and consider allowing an exception to backport that if we get it working | 14:17 |
| slagle | it's not really a feature | 14:17 |
| slagle | not really a bugfix either | 14:17 |
| EmilienM | it's a "move" | 14:17 |
| EmilienM | it will help a lot in composable roles | 14:18 |
| slagle | well that won't be in mitaka | 14:18 |
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| EmilienM | ok, so we don't wait for it | 14:18 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to work on Manage keystone initialization directly in t-h-t manifests https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244162/ but don't expect to have it in Mitaka | 14:19 |
| EmilienM | slagle: ok ^? | 14:19 |
| slagle | wfm | 14:19 |
| bnemec | Then we definitely need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290570/ before we branch | 14:19 |
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| slagle | trown|ooobootcam: any update on getting an updated consistent repo? | 14:19 |
| slagle | fwiw, rdo mitaka was cut from the consistent repo | 14:20 |
| slagle | which doesnt work with tripleo right now | 14:20 |
| slagle | we do however work with current! b/c i tested it yesterday | 14:20 |
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| slagle | so we are in a weird state right now, the periodic ha job will never pass right now as is | 14:20 |
| derekh | slagle: ooo lemme check why we got no consistent repo | 14:21 |
| slagle | yesterday trown|ooobootcam said the delorean builder was down | 14:21 |
| slagle | an in fact, even current hasn't been updated since the 13th | 14:21 |
| slagle | anyway, we should sync with rdo folks on this, we can move on | 14:22 |
| derekh | slagle: yup, its still down, I'll ask on rdo after the meeting | 14:22 |
| derekh | so is that an agreement, we can branch once aodh and the deprecated warning are merged ? | 14:23 |
| slagle | +1 from me | 14:23 |
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| derekh | +1 | 14:23 |
| slagle | we're in agreement! :) | 14:23 |
| EmilienM | +1 too | 14:24 |
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| d0ugal | o/ | 14:25 |
| jistr | +1 from me too | 14:25 |
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| derekh | #info we're free to branch mitaka once aodh and and deprecated message have been merged, then patches merged into mitaka should be fixes only | 14:26 |
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| derekh | accurate ^ ? | 14:26 |
| trown|ooobootcam | nice, sorry a bit distracted | 14:27 |
| trown|ooobootcam | +1 | 14:27 |
| slagle | yes | 14:27 |
| derekh | ok, once that happens we'll need to figure out who does the branching but I think we can coordinate that on our usual channel | 14:27 |
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| derekh | #topic CI | 14:28 |
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| derekh | We've bumped up the RAM in CI on both the undercloud and overcloud nodes by 1G last week | 14:28 |
| derekh | Some of us also spent a bit of time trying to dubug some of the errors we were seeing, looks like the addition of extra nics may have tickled a bug in our test env hosts | 14:29 |
| derekh | I believe this will fix it, I'll deploy the fix either tonight or tomorrow night https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292480/ | 14:29 |
| derekh | Besides that I think overall our pass rate has increased to something more acceptable (although still not perfect) | 14:30 |
| derekh | the ceph job has been re purposed to be the new upgrades job and has been renamed, merge this so it appears on the cistatus page https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292359/ | 14:30 |
| derekh | Also the patch to start using a mirror server is still hanging out there, https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:mirror-server | 14:30 |
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| derekh | would be nice to get some eyeballs on it, it should increase reliability and speed. | 14:31 |
| derekh | that all I got on CI anybody got anything else ? | 14:31 |
| slagle | merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292359 | 14:31 |
| derekh | slagle: thanks | 14:31 |
| derekh | ok, moving on | 14:32 |
| derekh | #topic specs | 14:32 |
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| derekh | Would anybody like to draw attention to any specs ? | 14:32 |
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| derekh | nope, | 14:34 |
| derekh | #topic open discussion | 14:34 |
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| EmilienM | just an FYI, michchap and I are working on composable roles | 14:35 |
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| EmilienM | we have a PoC : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292712 | 14:35 |
| derekh | EmilienM: cool | 14:35 |
| EmilienM | and https://review.openstack.org/289459 / https://review.openstack.org/289466 | 14:35 |
| michchap | (just the puppet side for now) | 14:35 |
| EmilienM | we are working on a first iteration where we move out Puppet code from THT to profiles in puppet-tripleo | 14:35 |
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| derekh | #info PoC for composable roles https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292712 https://review.openstack.org/289459 / https://review.openstack.org/289466 | 14:36 |
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| akrivoka | another FYI - tripleo ui is about to get included into upstream tripleo, we are very excited about that: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291246/ | 14:36 |
| EmilienM | we are doing a "service by service" iteration | 14:36 |
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| derekh | akrivoka: great job, I wonder if there is anything we need to do to include it in one of our CI jobs, probably worth discussing at some stage, | 14:38 |
| derekh | EmilienM: sounds like a good way to do it | 14:38 |
| akrivoka | derekh: ultimately yes, but I think we're not there yet | 14:39 |
| derekh | akrivoka: yup, fair enough we can visit the idea once its at the point | 14:39 |
| derekh | *that point | 14:39 |
| akrivoka | derekh: definitely | 14:39 |
| jrist | derekh: when we do, it sounds like akrivoka is becoming the expert :) | 14:40 |
| derekh | #info FYI - tripleo ui is about to get included into upstream tripleo https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291246/ | 14:40 |
| derekh | ;-) | 14:40 |
| EmilienM | nice work here! | 14:40 |
| derekh | ok, if there is nothing else, I'll close this early, 2 minutes to get in | 14:41 |
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| derekh | ok, thanks all | 14:43 |
| derekh | #endmeeting | 14:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 15 14:43:27 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-03-15-14.00.html | 14:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-03-15-14.00.txt | 14:43 |
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| tmorin | #startmeeting bgpvpn | 15:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 15 15:04:44 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmorin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:04 |
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| tmorin | bgpvpn irc meeting now / hi doude, matrohon, pcarver_, timirnich | 15:05 |
| matrohon | hi | 15:05 |
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| doude | hi | 15:07 |
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| tmorin | doude: good to see you ! :) | 15:08 |
| tmorin | we're not that many, but let's start | 15:08 |
| timirnich | hi folks - can I hijack the meeting for a second? We have OPNFV SDN VPN breakout at the hackfest in 2h from now - anyone interested in joining via IRC? | 15:08 |
| doude | me to | 15:08 |
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| timirnich | just drop me a note | 15:09 |
| tmorin | timirnich: thanks for the announce - I would have joined, but it is slightly too late for me | 15:09 |
| tmorin | which channel ? | 15:09 |
| timirnich | it would be #opnfv-sdnvpn | 15:10 |
| tmorin | ok | 15:10 |
| tmorin | what do we have to discuss | 15:10 |
| matrohon | vthapar had a bug earlier tody | 15:11 |
| tmorin | off the top of my head I have: bagpipe driver improvements, gate work, heat bug, RD/RT encoding issue | 15:11 |
| tmorin | yes | 15:11 |
| matrohon | I didn't see any report | 15:11 |
| tmorin | no, he did not fill one yet | 15:11 |
| tmorin | vthapar: ^^ ? | 15:11 |
| vthapar | tmorin, matrohon, yeah.. didn't raise bug yet. | 15:11 |
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| tmorin | hi vthapar | 15:12 |
| tmorin | do you plan to fill one ? | 15:12 |
| vthapar | tmorin mentioned he was aware of it, so wasn't sure if there already was a bug or not. | 15:12 |
| vthapar | will do | 15:12 |
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| tmorin | ok, thanks | 15:12 |
| tmorin | yes, I was aware as in "once though we should track that but forgot about it the next second" ;) | 15:12 |
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| vthapar | :) which reminds me of a similar topic of mine, but will get to it later. | 15:14 |
| tmorin | #topic heat bug | 15:14 |
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| tmorin | there was a simple/dumb bug in one of my changes, which matrohon found | 15:14 |
| tmorin | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/1557445 | 15:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1557445 in bgpvpn "heat fails creating a net-assoc" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Mathieu Rohon (mathieu-rohon) | 15:15 |
| tmorin | the fix is in already | 15:15 |
| tmorin | which reminded us that having a better gate would be really nice | 15:15 |
| tmorin | bringing us to the next topic: | 15:15 |
| tmorin | #topic gate work | 15:15 |
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| tmorin | I did a few things last week as first step to improve our gate | 15:15 |
| tmorin | first: make on gate jobs easily configurable without having to submit a change in the project-config repo | 15:16 |
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| tmorin | I hope it will be advanced soon | 15:17 |
| tmorin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291103/ | 15:17 |
| tmorin | the other thing I did is work on networking-bagpipe so that the bgpvpn code in bagpipe-bgp (github) can be installed by the gate devstack jobs | 15:17 |
| tmorin | we should have soon everything in place to run the complete bgpvpn+bagpipe combination in the gate | 15:17 |
| tmorin | additionally, we will be able easily to enable tempest testing in the gate | 15:18 |
| matrohon | great job tmorin | 15:18 |
| tmorin | and able to easily add testing of our heat plugin as well, I think | 15:18 |
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| tmorin | as soon as 291103 is in, improving the jobs will be a matter of pushing a change to networking-bgpvpn | 15:19 |
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| tmorin | thanks matrohon | 15:19 |
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| tmorin | I haven't looked how easy it is to test a heat plugin in the gate | 15:20 |
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| tmorin | any comment ? | 15:20 |
| tmorin | next topic ? | 15:20 |
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| tmorin | #topic bagpipe driver | 15:22 |
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| tmorin | we merged last week the change which allows to have bgpvpn be loaded as a clean extension to the OVS agent | 15:22 |
| tmorin | this is much much better than the hack we had before (standalone agent, inheriting from OVSNeutronAgent code, copy-pasting main() code, etc.) | 15:23 |
| tmorin | and it solves a "lost flows on restart" that we had | 15:23 |
| tmorin | comments ? | 15:23 |
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| matrohon | I had some issues with this change | 15:24 |
| matrohon | it seems to constantly cloning the bagpipe-bgp project | 15:25 |
| matrohon | even if we made some changes in bagpipe-bgp | 15:25 |
| matrohon | I mean when we run stack.sh | 15:26 |
| tmorin | you're not talking about the "ovs l2 agent" change right ? | 15:26 |
| tmorin | but previous topic ? | 15:26 |
| matrohon | oh sorry, yep :) | 15:27 |
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| tmorin | it is very much possible that even with RECLONE=yes, the git submodule sync/update overwrite the changes made | 15:28 |
| tmorin | sorry, even with RECLONE=no | 15:28 |
| tmorin | the logic can I guess be improved to avoid that | 15:28 |
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| tmorin | that would have to be done around here: https://github.com/openstack/networking-bagpipe/blob/master/devstack/override-defaults#L5 | 15:29 |
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| matrohon | another issue is that the bagpipe-bgp devstack plugin doesn't get some global parameters such as $HOST_IP, when specified in local.conf | 15:29 |
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| matrohon | hence : https://github.com/Orange-OpenSource/bagpipe-bgp/pull/5#issuecomment-196712533 | 15:29 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Launchpad SSO is back to normal - happy hacking | 15:31 | |
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| matrohon | apart from those little issue, it's much cleaner than having to specify 3 plugins in local.conf | 15:31 |
| tmorin | ok, let's see how we can improve that | 15:32 |
| tmorin | I've commented on your github pull request | 15:32 |
| tmorin | next topic ? | 15:32 |
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| tmorin | vthapar: didn't you had something you wanted to discuss ? | 15:33 |
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| vthapar | tmorin, yep. | 15:33 |
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| tmorin | ODL related ? | 15:33 |
| vthapar | yes, | 15:33 |
| * tmorin trying to find what to set the topic to :) | 15:33 | |
| tmorin | #topic ODL driver | 15:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "ODL driver (Meeting topic: bgpvpn)" | 15:33 | |
| tmorin | go ahead :) | 15:33 |
| vthapar | remember last time when we were workin gon ODL driver, we had a point on having option for *_precommit so drivers can reject unsupported use cases before they get commited to db? | 15:34 |
| vthapar | there are certain bgpvpn use cases that aren't supported in ODL yet and there is still no mechanism for ODL to talk back to openstack yet [in plans for newton]. | 15:35 |
| vthapar | so, it would be good to have ceratin validations in precommit so driver can reject instead of throwing error in post_commit which requires DB revert | 15:35 |
| matrohon | vthapar, what use case you don't support? | 15:35 |
| vthapar | I don't have list on me right now, but multiple RDs is one I remember off top of my head... | 15:36 |
| vthapar | limit on no. of networks that can be associated with a bgpvpn etc. | 15:36 |
| tmorin | I guess no driver supports E-VPN yet for instance | 15:36 |
| vthapar | yeah that too. | 15:36 |
| vthapar | we have checks in ODL code, but that today results in de-sync between what is on openstack side vs ODL. | 15:37 |
| matrohon | if no driver support a feature, we can remove it from the API | 15:37 |
| matrohon | vthapar, ok | 15:37 |
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| tmorin | hey, let's not forget about plans to implement E-VPN ! :) | 15:37 |
| vthapar | we have plans for E-VPN in ODL though, most likely in next release. | 15:38 |
| matrohon | vthapar, so you want to move checks done in odl to the bgpvpn driver | 15:38 |
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| tmorin | there is a relevant to have whether we prefer to avoid issues related to discrepencies between backends, or support all possible discrepencies and add pre-commit to manage them as nicely as possible | 15:39 |
| vthapar | yes, till ODL Driver folks in networking-odl figure out how to manage this... even then, not doing a revert will be preferred. | 15:39 |
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| matrohon | vthapar, you might still need to be able to revert if ODL NB API gets called by any other consumer than bgpvpn | 15:41 |
| tmorin | there is one case where I think pre-commit would make sense: drivers not supporting the control of the RD -- in the discussion a few months back, we concluded this was acceptable (for a driver not to support it), but we don't yet have something clean for pre-commit | 15:41 |
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| tmorin | not supporting all VPN types is also something that all driver may not support at the same time | 15:42 |
| vthapar | matrohon, agree. revert is unavoidable in some cases but scenarios where we know backend will not support should be handled in precommit. | 15:42 |
| tmorin | having clean pre-commit would be nice for this as well | 15:42 |
| matrohon | vthapar, do you think you can manage those checks without having to call ODL NB API? | 15:43 |
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| tmorin | doude: do you plan to implement VPN type l2 (E-VPN) in the contrail driver ? | 15:43 |
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| matrohon | because, as in ML2, pre_commit calls are done suring a sql session, so calling external components is prohibited | 15:43 |
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| vthapar | matrohon, yes. RD as list, l2 as type etc are some simple ones that can be handled in driver itself. same for associating multiple networks to bgpvpn. | 15:43 |
| vthapar | any checks that need ODL will be kept in postcommit. | 15:44 |
| matrohon | vthapar, I think we can agree then | 15:44 |
| vthapar | matrohon, cool :) | 15:45 |
| matrohon | vthapar, do you need it for mitaka? | 15:45 |
| vthapar | matrohon, answer to such questions is always 'would prefer to' :) | 15:45 |
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| tmorin | vthapar: can you fill a request-for-enhancement bug for that as well ? | 15:45 |
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| vthapar | tmorin, will do. | 15:46 |
| matrohon | vthapar, next answer is "do you have time to code it"? :) | 15:46 |
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| matrohon | s/answer/question | 15:46 |
| tmorin | yes, this is what I was going to ask as well | 15:46 |
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| tmorin | we can certainly help review/polish to that it lands for mitaka | 15:46 |
| vthapar | matrohon, I can find time, it is my openstack/python skills I doubt. | 15:46 |
| vthapar | hopefully I can pull some of my pythn expert colleagues for it. | 15:47 |
| vthapar | is there any deadline by when I need to get it ready? | 15:47 |
| matrohon | vthapar, let's start with a RFE bug | 15:47 |
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| matrohon | vthapar, well I'm not sure we have a clear roadmap :) | 15:48 |
| vthapar | bug should request for precommit support in plugin? or make it specific to ODL Driver? | 15:48 |
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| matrohon | vthapar, in plugin, so that any driver can use it | 15:48 |
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| vthapar | matrohon, anything from core-neutron side timelines that impacts us? | 15:48 |
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| matrohon | vthapar, we are a release-independant project for now | 15:49 |
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| vthapar | matrohon, oh yeah, had forgotten about that:) | 15:49 |
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| matrohon | vthapar, but of course we'd to release ASAP, not too long after mitaka | 15:49 |
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| tmorin | the only thing is that this time, the idea is to branch a stable/mitaka and release at a time close to neutron | 15:50 |
| vthapar | matrohon, that is why I asked for some tentative date by when to get this ready | 15:50 |
| tmorin | to avoid the problematic window where we're out of sync, which is a mess to manage for test jobs | 15:50 |
| matrohon | tmorin, vthapar : pre_commit stuff migt not be so hard to implement I feel like we can target it for the mitaka release | 15:51 |
| matrohon | tmorin +1 | 15:51 |
| tmorin | +1 | 15:51 |
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| vthapar | cool :) this week am caught up in upcoming ODL SR1 activities, will probaby start sometime next week. | 15:51 |
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| matrohon | vthapar, great! | 15:52 |
| tmorin | cool | 15:52 |
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| tmorin | one thing to look at is where to implement it | 15:52 |
| vthapar | matrohon, tmorin, btw, how do I raise an RFE? same as raising a bug, right? | 15:52 |
| tmorin | the service plugin does not do db persistency, so having it call "pre_commit" does not sound clean -- maybe it's just a name issue | 15:53 |
| matrohon | vthapar, you just have to add the rfe tag to you byug | 15:53 |
| vthapar | martohon, thanks. | 15:53 |
| tmorin | we could also implement it in the DB driver superclass, common to all drivers using Neutron db | 15:53 |
| tmorin | in that case, pre_commit will no apply to for instance contrail | 15:53 |
| tmorin | but I think this is ok | 15:54 |
| matrohon | yep pre_commit will never work with contril | 15:54 |
| tmorin | but it's not needed either | 15:54 |
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| tmorin | they can already to the appropriate check before calling contrail (no persistency made before check is done) | 15:54 |
| tmorin | the contrail code actually already does this | 15:55 |
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| tmorin | so the plan would I think be (a) add pre_commit methods to the db driver interface, and (b) have create_foo in the db driver call pre_commit before doing db calls | 15:56 |
| tmorin | and we also need the same for update_foo calls | 15:56 |
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| tmorin | the code to add will be in BGPVPNDriverDBMixin | 15:58 |
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| tmorin | we're nearly out of time | 15:58 |
| tmorin | matrohon, vthapar: ^^ anything else ? | 15:59 |
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| matrohon | nop | 15:59 |
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| vthapar | I've raised the bugs and done. | 15:59 |
| vthapar | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/1557608 | 15:59 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1557608 in bgpvpn "plugin should support/provide *precommit methods for drivers" [Undecided,New] | 15:59 |
| vthapar | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/1557588 | 16:00 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1557588 in bgpvpn "using ip-addr:asn format for router_distinguisher throws Invalid input error" [Medium,Confirmed] | 16:00 |
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| tmorin | vthapar: many thanks ! | 16:01 |
| tmorin | we have to leave the floor | 16:01 |
| tmorin | thanks guys | 16:01 |
| tmorin | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
| vthapar | bye everyone and thanks | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 15 16:01:15 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-03-15-15.04.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-03-15-15.04.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-03-15-15.04.log.html | 16:01 |
| adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 15 16:01:25 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:01 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2016-03-15_1600_UTC Our Agenda | 16:01 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:01 | |
| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 16:01 |
| strigazi | o/ Spyros Trigazis | 16:01 |
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| Kennan | o/ | 16:01 |
| yolanda | o/ | 16:01 |
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| hongbin | o/ | 16:01 |
| rpothier | o/ | 16:02 |
| Tango | Ton Ngo | 16:02 |
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| dane_leblanc | o/ | 16:02 |
| muralia_ | murali allada | 16:02 |
| jward | John Ward | 16:02 |
| eghobo | o/ | 16:02 |
| rochaporto | o/ | 16:02 |
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| adrian_otto | Hello strigazi Kennan yolanda hongbin rpothier Tango dane_leblanc muralia_ jward eghobo and rochaporto | 16:02 |
| wznoinsk | Waldemar Znoinski | 16:02 |
| muralia_ | hi everyone | 16:02 |
| adrian_otto | hello wznoinsk | 16:02 |
| levi_b | Levi Blackstone | 16:02 |
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| adrian_otto | okay, let's begin | 16:03 |
| suro-patz | o/ | 16:03 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:03 | |
| adrian_otto | 1) We are now in Feature Freeze and String Freeze | 16:03 |
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| adrian_otto | this means that today I will branch for mitaka, and any code that needs to land for mitaka from this point forward needs an FFE (feature freeze exception). | 16:04 |
| adrian_otto | I can grant FFE's. | 16:04 |
| adrian_otto | bugs may be merged against the branch without an FFE | 16:04 |
| thomasem | o/ | 16:05 |
| Tango | What if the bug involves some string changes? | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | if you submit a review against the stable/mitaka branch, and it merges, you'll need to submit the same patch to master as well | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | Tango, ideally we would file a tech debt ticket to handle the string changes in the next release tag | 16:05 |
| Tango | ok | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | but if adjusting strings is central to solving the bug, then we can use an FFE for that. | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | the rules are there to help us, but if it makes sense to bend them, we will. | 16:06 |
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| adrian_otto | any other questions on this announcement? | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | ok, next... | 16:07 |
| adrian_otto | 2) Welcome Shu Muto to magnum-ui-core! | 16:07 |
| adrian_otto | Shu Moto was added to the group this morning. Welcome!! | 16:07 |
| Kennan | welcome to Shu Moto | 16:07 |
| muralia_ | congrats | 16:07 |
| Tango | Welcome Shu! | 16:08 |
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| suro-patz | Welcome Shu! | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | Dims asked to be dropped from the group, which I will do today as well. | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | looks like that's done now | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | any other announcements from team members? | 16:08 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 16:09 |
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| adrian_otto | (referring to my notes) | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | 1) adrian_otto to start an ML thread about Magnum functional gate tests taking forever to execute in OpenStack CI. | 16:10 |
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| adrian_otto | this may be something I can touch base with yolanda about | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | I did not start the ML thread, sorry. | 16:10 |
| yolanda | adrian_otto, seems i joined in the right day :) | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to start an ML thread about Magnum functional gate tests taking forever to execute in OpenStack CI. | 16:10 |
| juggler | o/ | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | so yolanda, real quick while we are on the subject | 16:10 |
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| adrian_otto | the OVH vms are super slow | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | and gates that used to complete in 20 minutes now take 2 hours | 16:11 |
| adrian_otto | and frequently time out | 16:11 |
| yolanda | IO slowness? | 16:11 |
| adrian_otto | yes, exacty. | 16:11 |
| yolanda | ok i can report it | 16:11 |
| adrian_otto | the other cloud providers work okay | 16:11 |
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| adrian_otto | part of the problem is that we have added more func tests | 16:11 |
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| adrian_otto | but part of the problem is slow hardware | 16:11 |
| adrian_otto | we have been landing patches to eliminate extra work from the gate tests | 16:12 |
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| yolanda | adrian_otto, do you have some links to the ovh failures? | 16:12 |
| adrian_otto | to try to keep things working, but it's been a real disappointment since the HPE servers were lost from the mix. | 16:12 |
| adrian_otto | we can get that to you, but I don't have it at my fingertips | 16:12 |
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| yolanda | we got complains about IO slowness for vexxhost last week as well | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | ok, let's advance to the next agenda item | 16:13 |
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| adrian_otto | thanks yolanda!! | 16:13 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Bay node OS support in Magnum | 16:14 |
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| adrian_otto | so, before we get too deep here, I want to thank everyone who has been participating on the ML on this topic | 16:14 |
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| adrian_otto | this is a complex subject, and it's been tricky to get everyone to gel on the compromise for the approach to balance choice with complexity. | 16:15 |
| adrian_otto | and as of last night, I think we are in a good place. I will do my best to characterize the approach, and consider input if this neeeds to be tweaked | 16:15 |
| adrian_otto | we want to make Magnum more modular by moving COE specific code into drivers | 16:16 |
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| adrian_otto | each driver can support a combination of bay node os + dependencies (docker, k8s, etc), templates, and parameter logic | 16:16 |
| adrian_otto | the detail that each _driver_ only supports one OS was an initial friction point | 16:17 |
| adrian_otto | once I explained that we can have multiple drivers per COE type, that seemed to resolve the friction point | 16:17 |
| adrian_otto | we will have a single driver identified as the default | 16:17 |
| adrian_otto | alternates can be proposed, and initially placed into a contrib directory | 16:17 |
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| adrian_otto | we can have in-tree alternates once they meet criteria that we agree on (adequate testing, and an active maintainer, for example) | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | make sense so far? | 16:18 |
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| adrian_otto | any concerns with this approach? | 16:18 |
| hongbin | I think it sounds good | 16:18 |
| suro-patz | +1 | 16:18 |
| Kennan | looks ok | 16:19 |
| Tango | sounds good | 16:19 |
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| Kennan | better with high-level bp about them | 16:19 |
| eghobo | +1 | 16:19 |
| adrian_otto | keep in mind that the default driver (os) for a given COE should be chosen based on which one works best with that COE | 16:19 |
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| adrian_otto | so say at come point we have a "CoreOS" COE, it would obviously make sense to use CoreOS in that driver. | 16:20 |
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| adrian_otto | the default driver for Mesos/Marathon woudl be Ubuntu, you get the idea. | 16:20 |
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| Kennan | yes, we need some spec or clear bp to specify them. @adrian_otto | 16:21 |
| adrian_otto | ok, to Kennan's point, we may have someone working ona BP now | 16:21 |
| muralia_ | is anyone working on this blueprint currently? | 16:21 |
| adrian_otto | muralia_: do you remember who will be drafting that? | 16:21 |
| adrian_otto | oh, that answers that question | 16:21 |
| muralia_ | jamie from rackspace agreed to work on it | 16:21 |
| adrian_otto | ok. | 16:21 |
| muralia_ | but i was wondering if anyone got started already | 16:21 |
| muralia_ | looks like its a no | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | I have not seen anyone tag me for approval on one | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | so that may still be forthcoming | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | this is something we will definitely vote on an spec for | 16:22 |
| Kennan | I did not think anyone start it now | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | so reviewers will have lots of opportunity to shape the plan for implementation | 16:22 |
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| muralia_ | yes | 16:23 |
| adrian_otto | thanks everyone for your attention and collaboration on this topic. | 16:23 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint Review | 16:24 |
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| dims | adrian_otto : thanks! | 16:24 |
| adrian_otto | since we are in FF, I'm tempted to skip this | 16:24 |
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| adrian_otto | dims: :-) | 16:24 |
| yolanda | adrian_otto, i added a topic in the agenda for fedora dib images, but i did at last minute | 16:25 |
| adrian_otto | the OpenStack summit in Austin is in 6 weeks | 16:25 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Fedora atomic image generation: how to validate | 16:25 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/fedora-atomic-image-build | 16:25 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/287167 | 16:25 |
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| adrian_otto | thanks yolanda | 16:25 |
| adrian_otto | proceed | 16:25 |
| yolanda | so i've been working on that blueprint for some time, and i have a working image for fedora atomic, on f23 | 16:26 |
| yolanda | i was wondering what should be the best way to validate it, and ensure that it will be good for testing | 16:26 |
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| yolanda | so far i tried to run devstack, and use that as magnum_guest_image_url | 16:26 |
| hongbin | yolanda: I would suggest to run it againest the quickstart guide, to see if everything is working | 16:27 |
| yolanda | hongbin well, things boot, i can spin up bays, etc | 16:27 |
| Tango | One problem is that we don't have enough functional tests to cover all the use cases. | 16:27 |
| hongbin | yolanda: Also, I think the next step is to submit a patch and run it in gate | 16:27 |
| yolanda | when i tried deploying kubernetes i get an error about an atomic.io key not existing | 16:27 |
| Tango | Often the cluster comes up but is not functional | 16:27 |
| yolanda | yep, that's my fear | 16:27 |
| Kennan | Tango also know lots of built images | 16:28 |
| yolanda | hongbin, changes for diskimage-builder are still on review, so i even cannot create a job for publishing | 16:28 |
| Tango | I can help with checking out the image | 16:28 |
| yolanda | but i'd like to check that the process is ok, and the image is valid, before merging that | 16:28 |
| hongbin | yolanda: I think you can do it in two steps | 16:28 |
| yolanda | Tango, thx.. so https://review.openstack.org/287167 is the link for the diskimage-builder change | 16:28 |
| Tango | I will take a look and try it out | 16:29 |
| yolanda | and i also have generated qcow that i can upload somewhere | 16:29 |
| hongbin | yolanda: 1. Build an image and upload it to fedora people, then submit a patch to verify that image works. | 16:29 |
| hongbin | yolanda: 2. Introduce the dib in the patch | 16:29 |
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| yolanda | hongbin, so submit a patch for magnum , to use my generated fedora image? | 16:30 |
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| hongbin | yolanda: yes | 16:30 |
| yolanda | ok i can do it, send some experimental job? | 16:30 |
| Kennan | yolanda: is your image is same as Fedora official atomic image ? Or can be customized with any installed software | 16:30 |
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| yolanda | Kennan it's based on fedora official ostree. It could be customized if we had the need | 16:31 |
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| hongbin | yolanda: You can use the existing job to test it | 16:31 |
| Tango | I think before #1, we should do a fair amount of local testing, otherwise debugging at the gate is difficult. | 16:31 |
| hongbin | Tango: +1 | 16:31 |
| adrian_otto | +1 | 16:31 |
| Kennan | +1 | 16:31 |
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| Kennan | yolanda: what's the difference between your image and official atmic image ? | 16:32 |
| yolanda | so it's based on https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/atomic/23/ | 16:32 |
| yolanda | the difference is that is generated with diskimage-builder, so we can generate it from infra regularly | 16:32 |
| Kennan | OK. Thanks | 16:32 |
| yolanda | it can be uploaded on a regular basis, and we can host in our mirrors | 16:33 |
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| Tango | I guess we can also customize the version of particular software, like Kubernetes? | 16:33 |
| yolanda | also if there was some need to use a custom tree, it could be done | 16:33 |
| yolanda | yes, there can be that possibility | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto | should we expect that to accelleterate our gate test times? | 16:33 |
| yolanda | adrian_otto, that is the idea, and reduce failures | 16:33 |
| yolanda | downloading content from an external source is a point of failure | 16:34 |
| adrian_otto | that would be awesome | 16:34 |
| Kennan | yolanda: one point | 16:34 |
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| Kennan | most time functional test is image itself, not speed(download time) | 16:34 |
| yolanda | i started that to kick the integration with shade. I noticed that i had to increase shade timeout because of that external download, so that was not well received for shade people | 16:34 |
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| yolanda | yep, that won't help with that. Only to reduce the download time and, to have own images | 16:35 |
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| adrian_otto | sorry, but what is shade? | 16:36 |
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| yolanda | adrian_otto, so http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/shade | 16:36 |
| yolanda | is a wrapper for openstack calls mostly... we use that in nodepool | 16:36 |
| adrian_otto | oh, thanks | 16:37 |
| yolanda | and we use that on ansible for openstack as well | 16:37 |
| yolanda | so enabling that integration with magnum, can open some doors to start using ansible + magnum, or nodepool + magnum | 16:37 |
| adrian_otto | yolanda: can you explain some more about the nodepool + magnum concept? | 16:38 |
| Tango | +1 | 16:38 |
| yolanda | adrian_otto, this was some topic discussed on Tokyo, but at the moment there is no progress on the short time | 16:39 |
| yolanda | the idea was to allow nodepool to work with containers at some point | 16:39 |
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| yolanda | the thing that we agreed is to start first with that shade+magnum integration, the same as there is integration with nova, or with ironic | 16:39 |
| adrian_otto | ok, I do have a memory of this | 16:40 |
| yolanda | once it's there, i hope that the idea of nodepool can be moved forward again, but that was the first tep needed | 16:40 |
| yolanda | yep, we got some conversations with team about that | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | I see. How can the magnum team help? | 16:40 |
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| yolanda | so the main problem i had this time is the lack of experience with fedora atomic, see the better way of creating this integration with diskimage-builder | 16:41 |
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| yolanda | at the moment i'd say that helping in validation of that concept, to test that the images we create are valid, will be awesome | 16:41 |
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| adrian_otto | not to speak for all of us, but I think that helping with that is in our mutual interest | 16:42 |
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| adrian_otto | as we make more efficient use of the openstack CI infra, and we get faster gate tests as a result. | 16:42 |
| yolanda | i'll be glad to have some collaboration, that will be fantastic. I had the blueprint a bit stopped but i resumed in the last month | 16:42 |
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| yolanda | so i can start uploading the image to fedora people and share link here to help on validation? | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | ok, what woudl be good next steps to take? | 16:44 |
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| adrian_otto | that sounds good | 16:44 |
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| yolanda | also if i can get reviews on the diskimage-builder patch, to be sure that i'm not missing anything, will be good | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | let me know if you'd like to schedule a breakout meeting on irc to collaborate on that with interested magnum contributors | 16:45 |
| imtiaz | Hi all. I am joining this meeting for the very first time. I met adrian and couple of other core members at a recent meetup organized by Lida. | 16:45 |
| imtiaz | Lisa* | 16:45 |
| yolanda | so far i was talking with some people in RH, and the guidance i got is to start running ostree, tweak grub and tweak docker storage | 16:45 |
| adrian_otto | thanks yolanda | 16:45 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 16:45 |
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| imtiaz | @yolanda - what type of image validation do you have in mind? | 16:45 |
| adrian_otto | imtiaz: hi there | 16:45 |
| yolanda | adrian_otto, thanks for your attention | 16:45 |
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| yolanda | imtiaz, i'd like to be sure that it passes all magnum tests,and that this is a valid image for the platform | 16:46 |
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| yolanda | i have tested it, it boots, it has the required packages , but i don't have the expertise to dig deeper | 16:46 |
| imtiaz | Do we have a framework to launch a VM with that image? | 16:46 |
| adrian_otto | imtiaz: yes, devstack. | 16:47 |
| adrian_otto | it's the behavior of the Magnum bay that's in question | 16:47 |
| strigazi | adrian_otto: I have some updates on magnum installation guide | 16:48 |
| adrian_otto | possible configuration settings of Docker (my guess is related to image sign verification) | 16:48 |
| adrian_otto | strigazi: great! tell us more | 16:48 |
| strigazi | Magnum installation guide is ready for rdo. What about other distributions? There are magnum-packages *only* for rdo. Should I add a note saying, install from source? | 16:48 |
| imtiaz | Adrian: o.k. I was thinking about an automated gate that could validate the image. | 16:49 |
| adrian_otto | yes, if we have a guide for istalling from source (not devstack) that would help with other OpenStack environments | 16:49 |
| strigazi | ok, 2: Magnum installation guide is ready for rdo. What about other distributions? There are magnum-packages *only* for rdo. Should I add a note saying, install from source? | 16:49 |
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| strigazi | ok, 2. Can this be for mitaka? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/add-magnum-to-the-installation-guide , its the bp for the installation-guide under openstack-manuals | 16:50 |
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| hongbin | yolanda: ping me in IRC if you need help for the image validation | 16:50 |
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| yolanda | hongbin thanks. I'll try uploading to public fedorapeople, and share the link | 16:51 |
| Tango | strigazi: Would the guide be applicable to Ubuntu? | 16:51 |
| strigazi | Tango: from source, yes | 16:51 |
| Tango | strigazi: thanks | 16:51 |
| adrian_otto | we do get continued interest in Ubuntu setup, so that would definitely be valuable. | 16:52 |
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| strigazi | I'm an ubuntu user at home, so that interests me as well | 16:52 |
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| suro-patz | my sincere request to conclude the review for the spec on async mode of container operations - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275003/ - it has gone through multiple rounds of iteration, review and rework. IMHO, it would be good to merge at this point and take it forward from there: adrian_otto | 16:53 |
| adrian_otto | strigazi: the BP you referenced above is not a magnum one. It's an openstack-manuals one, so we'll need to find that PTL and ask there. It might be too deep into FF to get it into Mitaka. | 16:53 |
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| strigazi | finally, this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289994/ needs review, its the spec file for magnum-installation-guide and need to be link to the bp | 16:53 |
| adrian_otto | I know that thingee expressed an interest in it thought | 16:53 |
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| adrian_otto | wow, you made a spec for that. Nice, strigazi. Usually for things of that complexity we skip that step. | 16:54 |
| adrian_otto | but it's welcome nonetheless. | 16:54 |
| strigazi | A core member of openstack-manuals asked about it | 16:55 |
| adrian_otto | Thanks strigazi for all your work on that important item. We really appreciate it. | 16:55 |
| Tango | +1 | 16:56 |
| strigazi | :) | 16:56 |
| adrian_otto | strigazi: oh, I see, they have a spec process in place for manuals | 16:56 |
| adrian_otto | I'll vote ont aht | 16:56 |
| adrian_otto | thanks for the pointer. | 16:56 |
| adrian_otto | ok, we have just a few minutes remaining. | 16:56 |
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| adrian_otto | any other topics before we wrap up? | 16:56 |
| suro-patz | my sincere request to conclude the review for the spec on async mode of container operations - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275003/Â - it has gone through multiple rounds of iteration, review and rework. IMHO, it would be good to merge at this point and take it forward from there: adrian_otto | 16:56 |
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| adrian_otto | suro-patz: acknowledged. Let's vote on that review, and identify any remaining concerns. | 16:57 |
| suro-patz | thanks adrian_otto! | 16:57 |
| adrian_otto | I'm ready to move forward on it | 16:57 |
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| strigazi | I'd like to draw your attention to this bp: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/allow-user-softwareconfig | 16:58 |
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| strigazi | Will it be approved? | 16:58 |
| adrian_otto | strigazi: I will review and comment on it | 16:58 |
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| strigazi | adrian_otto: thanks | 16:59 |
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| adrian_otto | Thanks everyone for attending today. Our next meeting will be Tuesday 2016-03-22 at 1600 UTC. See you then! | 16:59 |
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| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 15 17:00:05 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-03-15-16.01.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-03-15-16.01.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-03-15-16.01.log.html | 17:00 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #startmeeting murano | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 15 17:01:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kzaitsev_mb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:01 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #topic rollcall | 17:01 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | o/ | 17:01 |
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| tlashchova | o/ | 17:02 |
| freerunner | o/ | 17:04 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | not that many of us today, here =) | 17:06 |
| kzaitsev_mb | probably everyone's busy fixing bugs for the rc1 | 17:06 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | ok we didn't have a meeting last time and I don't think we had any AI's, so let's go straight to Open Disucssion | 17:07 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #topic Open Discussion | 17:07 |
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| freerunner | Super-fast meeting ;) | 17:07 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I'll give a small status update, for anyone who'll be reading the logs after this meeting, then wait for 5-10 mins and we'll probably finish early ) | 17:08 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | So RC1 is this week. I'm sure we're in good condition to tag it on Thursday | 17:08 |
| kzaitsev_mb | we still have 2 FFE's for 2 plugins | 17:08 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243872/ | 17:09 |
| kzaitsev_mb | and | 17:09 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269250/ | 17:09 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I believe, that both of them are very close to be merged | 17:09 |
| kzaitsev_mb | expect that to happen tomorrow most likely. | 17:09 |
| kzaitsev_mb | tlashchova: thanks for your work on one of those =) | 17:10 |
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| tlashchova | I have just uploaded new patch set and I think it's ready for review | 17:11 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | tlashchova: awesome! would look into it soon =) | 17:12 |
| kzaitsev_mb | we have only 3 open high bugs to fix before rc1 | 17:12 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://launchpad.net/murano/+milestone/mitaka-rc1 | 17:12 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | 2 of them are being worked on, and the other one is not release critical | 17:12 |
| kzaitsev_mb | we have a bunch of mediums though, but we're actively working on those =) | 17:13 |
| ddovbii | o/ sorry, I'm late | 17:13 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | and my final piece of news is that I'm officially a candidate for being a PTL in murano for N =) | 17:15 |
| kzaitsev_mb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292531/ | 17:15 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | k. So | 17:15 |
| ddovbii | kzaitsev_mb, congrats! =) | 17:16 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I don't have much to add to the news/status updates | 17:16 |
| kzaitsev_mb | if anyone has anything to discuss — now is the time to step up. | 17:16 |
| freerunner | kzaitsev_mb: Awesome ;) | 17:16 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | Otherwise I'm going to wait till 8 more minutes and call it a day =) | 17:17 |
| Nikolay_St | much better now | 17:17 |
| Nikolay_St | but I guess I arrive after everything happened =( | 17:18 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | Nikolay_St: almost =) we had a pretty light agenda for today anyways | 17:18 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | k, if no one's going to add anything in 2 mins, I'm going to finishe early =) | 17:24 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | time! =) | 17:27 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #endmeeting | 17:27 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-03-15-17.01.html | 17:27 |
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