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Sukhdev | Folks ML2 meeting time | 16:00 |
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Sukhdev | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 20 16:01:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
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openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:01 |
yamamoto | hi | 16:01 |
Sukhdev | yamamoto : hi | 16:01 |
Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:01 |
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Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_April_20.2C_2016 | 16:01 |
Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:02 |
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yamahata | hello | 16:02 |
Sukhdev | rkukura is out vacationing with his family | 16:02 |
Sukhdev | so, he will not be able to join us today | 16:02 |
Sukhdev | Austin Summit is next week | 16:02 |
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Sukhdev | Hope to see you guys there | 16:02 |
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Sukhdev | I am assuming you are all going there, right? | 16:03 |
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Sukhdev | This also means there will be no meeting next week | 16:04 |
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Sukhdev | #topic: Neutron Design sessions | 16:05 |
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Sukhdev | #link: https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Neutron%3A | 16:05 |
Sukhdev | We will have our usual session on Friday AM | 16:05 |
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Sukhdev | yamahata yamamoto : are you guys to be going to Austin next week? | 16:06 |
yamahata | Sukhdev: yes. | 16:06 |
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Sukhdev | good | 16:06 |
Sukhdev | Please do take a note of Friday AM session - | 16:06 |
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Sukhdev | If you want to add anything to the agenda for Friday session, please add it here - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-neutron-unplugged-track | 16:07 |
yamamoto | yes | 16:08 |
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Sukhdev | good - hope to see you both next week - | 16:09 |
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Sukhdev | in the mean time, please go through the etherpad and update it, if necessary | 16:10 |
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Sukhdev | scheuran is not here - so I will skip over his section | 16:10 |
Sukhdev | yamahata yamamoto : Today's agenda was light - | 16:11 |
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Sukhdev | I do not have anything specific to cover - do you? | 16:11 |
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yamamoto | neither do i | 16:11 |
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yamahata | not special. | 16:12 |
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Sukhdev | OK - in that case I think we can call it a day and spend more time next week | 16:12 |
yamamoto | sure | 16:12 |
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Sukhdev | yamahata : are you OK with it as well? | 16:12 |
yamahata | yes. | 16:12 |
Sukhdev | In that case, lets end the meeting | 16:13 |
yamahata | Is there neutron gathering at the venue? | 16:13 |
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Sukhdev | yamahata : I think so - you mean the social gathering, right? | 16:13 |
yamahata | Yes. | 16:13 |
Sukhdev | Usually it takes place on Wed or Thu PM | 16:14 |
Sukhdev | and it is announced during the sessions | 16:14 |
Sukhdev | You will know when you are there | 16:14 |
yamahata | thanks. | 16:14 |
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Sukhdev | if nothing else - lets end the meeting | 16:14 |
Sukhdev | Thanks for attending | 16:15 |
Sukhdev | bye | 16:15 |
yamahata | bye | 16:15 |
Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 16:15 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 20 16:15:22 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:15 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-04-20-16.01.html | 16:15 |
yamamoto | bye | 16:15 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-04-20-16.01.txt | 16:15 |
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openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-04-20-16.01.log.html | 16:15 |
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mugsie | #startmeeting Designate | 17:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 20 17:00:46 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:00 |
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mugsie | #topic Roll Call | 17:01 |
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Kiall | o/ | 17:01 |
sonuk_ | o/ | 17:01 |
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mugsie | timsim: elarson pglass federico3 rsyed meeting ping | 17:01 |
rsyed | o/ | 17:02 |
pglass | o/ | 17:02 |
rsyed | (we're finishing up a meeting) | 17:02 |
mugsie | a joe meeting? | 17:02 |
Kiall | rsyed: is it a jmcbride meeting? | 17:02 |
Kiall | snap | 17:02 |
rsyed | yup! | 17:02 |
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mugsie | jmcbride meetings are famous :P | 17:03 |
mugsie | #topic Action Items from last week | 17:03 |
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mugsie | Kiall backport 909cc5d | 17:03 |
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mugsie | Kiall: ? | 17:04 |
Kiall | Ehh, I, doing it now -_- | 17:04 |
mugsie | :D | 17:04 |
mugsie | mugsie investiagte if 5104e6e and ab1639c are acceptable | 17:04 |
mugsie | and I didnt either | 17:04 |
mugsie | will do that after the meeting | 17:04 |
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mugsie | #action mugsie investiagte if 5104e6e and ab1639c are acceptable | 17:04 |
Kiall | 909cc5d done ;) | 17:04 |
elarson | o/ | 17:04 |
mugsie | #topic Bug Triage (timsim - recurring) | 17:05 |
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elarson | timsim: is in a meeting with me | 17:05 |
mugsie | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 17:05 |
elarson | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1471165 | 17:05 |
openstack | elarson: Error: malone bug 1471165 not found | 17:05 |
mugsie | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1571644 | 17:05 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1571644 in Designate "Error in sink neutron_floatingip handler" [Undecided,New] | 17:05 |
elarson | dangit | 17:05 |
mugsie | elarson: pfft | 17:05 |
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mugsie | I went looking for the format of neutron events | 17:06 |
Kiall | And, LP refusing to open for me | 17:06 |
mugsie | and, there is basically no docs / schemas / info at all | 17:06 |
elarson | LP is an introvert... #dadjokesforever | 17:06 |
mugsie | but | 17:06 |
mugsie | I do not think 'hostname' is sent as part of the event | 17:06 |
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Kiall | From Neutron? No, it's not.. | 17:07 |
mugsie | format = '%(hostname)s.%(domain)s' | 17:07 |
mugsie | I wanted to confirm it wasnt before closing it | 17:07 |
Kiall | Is that in our sample? or did they copy it from the nova sample and assume it worked for Neutron too? | 17:07 |
Kiall | (it is in the nova events) | 17:07 |
mugsie | its not in our sample | 17:07 |
Kiall | K - So not expected to work then | 17:08 |
mugsie | OK, closing | 17:08 |
mugsie | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-designateclient/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 17:08 |
mugsie | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-designateclient/+bug/1571572 | 17:08 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1571572 in python-designateclient "Designate CLI - No output when domain-list is empty" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Preeti (pandey-preeti1) | 17:08 |
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mugsie | i think ^ is OK | 17:09 |
Kiall | For some reason, I thought pglass fixed that? | 17:09 |
Kiall | Oh - thats designateclient, not OS client | 17:09 |
Kiall | What do you mean be OK? OK behaviour as is? OK to fix? ;) | 17:09 |
mugsie | OK to fix | 17:10 |
mugsie | sorry, was updating the other bug | 17:10 |
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Kiall | Yea, it should be easy enough to fix and is worth it | 17:10 |
mugsie | thats it :) | 17:11 |
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mugsie | #topic Stable Backport Triage (kiall - recurring) | 17:11 |
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Kiall | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/494856/ | 17:11 |
Kiall | As usual, take a few mins, nominate things in need of backporting | 17:11 |
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Kiall | IMO - None are backport worth | 17:12 |
Kiall | worthy* | 17:12 |
mugsie | nope | 17:12 |
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mugsie | anyone else? | 17:12 |
Kiall | Anyone else? | 17:12 |
Kiall | snap - again | 17:12 |
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mugsie | OK then :) | 17:12 |
mugsie | #topic Open Discussion | 17:12 |
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mugsie | any off agenda items? | 17:13 |
Kiall | Just - looking forward to seeing folks at the summit ;) | 17:13 |
mugsie | dito | 17:13 |
elarson | yeah! | 17:14 |
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mugsie | i think that is it for this week folks | 17:14 |
elarson | o/ | 17:15 |
mugsie | and the meeting next week will not be happening of course | 17:15 |
mugsie | as most of us will be in the same place | 17:15 |
elarson | timsim is typing in elarson's emacs right now and doesn't even know if his messages are coming across | 17:15 |
mugsie | elarson: can you quit though? | 17:15 |
mugsie | :P | 17:15 |
elarson | lol no | 17:15 |
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elarson | I had a hard enough time getting to the right buffer | 17:16 |
mugsie | ok - everyone enjoy 45 mins back :) | 17:16 |
mugsie | #endmeeting | 17:16 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 20 17:16:27 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:16 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-04-20-17.00.html | 17:16 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-04-20-17.00.txt | 17:16 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-04-20-17.00.log.html | 17:16 |
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amrith | #startmeeting trove | 18:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 20 18:01:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amrith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
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peterstac | o/ | 18:01 |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:01 |
tellesnobrega | o/ | 18:01 |
amrith | ./ | 18:01 |
tosky | o/ | 18:01 |
mvandijk | 0/ | 18:01 |
dougshelley66 | o/ | 18:01 |
amrith | Agenda is at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:01 |
amrith | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:01 |
amrith | Let's give folks a couple of minutes to come in | 18:01 |
twm2016 | o/ | 18:01 |
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SlickNik | o/ | 18:03 |
dloi | o/ | 18:03 |
amrith | OK, let's get going | 18:03 |
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amrith | hello everyone | 18:03 |
amrith | #topic Action Items from Last Meeting | 18:03 |
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amrith | None outstanding | 18:03 |
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amrith | I had taken one but I guess it didn't show up on the minutes last week. that was to send out a trove dashboard. I've done that. | 18:03 |
* amrith runs to find a link | 18:03 | |
amrith | #link http://openstack.markmail.org/thread/nw4a2mtcdwd2vxue | 18:04 |
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amrith | has anyone tried this out? | 18:04 |
cp16net | ./ | 18:04 |
cp16net | hello | 18:05 |
amrith | hello cp16net | 18:05 |
tellesnobrega | amrith, did, looks pretty good | 18:05 |
vgnbkr | o/ | 18:05 |
amrith | thx tellesnobrega | 18:05 |
SlickNik | I tried it out as well — looks pretty good to me! | 18:05 |
tellesnobrega | at this point don't see anything missing on that | 18:05 |
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SlickNik | Thanks Amrith! | 18:05 |
amrith | flaper87's not here. as I said in my email, thx to him for pointing me to the dashboard creator | 18:05 |
cp16net | i've made a dashboard before | 18:06 |
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amrith | there were a couple of kinks as I went through and used it; the latest review as pushed into the repo looks stable to me. | 18:06 |
cp16net | its pretty awesome | 18:06 |
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amrith | so I like a lot about it; there are things I DON'T like | 18:06 |
cp16net | a really long link | 18:06 |
amrith | I can't change the sort order | 18:06 |
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amrith | well, the long link is easy to get around, since you generate it once and then put it in the settings so it is just a menu link to me | 18:06 |
amrith | see my email :) | 18:06 |
amrith | #link http://openstack.markmail.org/thread/nw4a2mtcdwd2vxue | 18:07 |
cp16net | yup | 18:07 |
pmalik | ./ | 18:07 |
amrith | the sort order bugs me | 18:07 |
amrith | also, the foreach is a nusiance | 18:07 |
johnma | o/ | 18:07 |
amrith | for me at least | 18:07 |
amrith | this is a trove dashboard | 18:07 |
amrith | so it makes sense to have a foreach that lists the trove projects | 18:07 |
amrith | but I watch about 23 projects all told | 18:07 |
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amrith | so I can't have a single dashboard | 18:07 |
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amrith | without having projects in each query | 18:07 |
amrith | which makes for a VERY VERY VERY long link | 18:07 |
amrith | :( | 18:07 |
amrith | other than that, great tool | 18:08 |
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amrith | and more importantly we all now should have a single priroity list of reviews | 18:08 |
amrith | I suggest that we use this for a couple of weeks (say a month) and then revisit | 18:08 |
amrith | and improve | 18:08 |
amrith | thoughts? | 18:08 |
vkmc | o/ | 18:08 |
tellesnobrega | +1 amrith | 18:08 |
johnma | amrith: I have been using it and I find it very useful to look at that list and prioritize. Thank you for putting it together | 18:09 |
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SlickNik | Yeah, I remember I hit a 2083 URL char limit at some point because the URL was too long — so that's something to be aware of. | 18:09 |
amrith | thx johnma | 18:10 |
amrith | 2083 char limit eh? | 18:10 |
amrith | where? | 18:10 |
amrith | is that a gerrit-dash-creator limit or a gerrit UI limit? | 18:10 |
SlickNik | Yeah, it was on the client — I was using chrome. | 18:10 |
cp16net | lol | 18:10 |
johnma | I couldnt get the link you posted in the mail to work. So I just went to the gerrit-dashboard and got the link for Trove-Dashboard from there and used it in my settings. That worked | 18:11 |
amrith | so SlickNik I got around that by pushing it into my menu | 18:11 |
amrith | johnma, sorry about that | 18:11 |
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amrith | you mean the link in the gist didn't work? | 18:11 |
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amrith | I'll go and check that out. | 18:11 |
SlickNik | The link in the gist is well under 2083 chars, and is fine. :) | 18:11 |
johnma | oh ,no worries. Just wanted to bring it up in case someone else had a problem. | 18:12 |
johnma | right, the link in gist | 18:12 |
amrith | cool. so let's keep a list of things we'd like to see improved and revisit in a month | 18:12 |
tellesnobrega | the link worked nicely for me | 18:12 |
SlickNik | ++ | 18:12 |
amrith | #action Amrith to add agenda item in a month to revisit this and iterate. | 18:12 |
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johnma | could very much be something wrong on my side | 18:12 |
amrith | ok ... that's out of the way for now. | 18:12 |
amrith | #topic Trove Pulse Update | 18:12 |
amrith | #link http://bit.ly/1VQyg00 | 18:12 |
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amrith | Significant uptick since last week, great job folks. The number of changes merged was up, the number of open patches went down. All good trends. What do others think? | 18:13 |
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johnma | good news | 18:13 |
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cp16net | yeah i think there are still a few low hanging reviews that could make that better | 18:15 |
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cp16net | but overall its great! | 18:15 |
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amrith | yes, that's what I thought. | 18:15 |
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amrith | anyone else have thoughts on the #'s | 18:16 |
amrith | #link https://gist.github.com/amrith/42a6772ff4ce22243381153596ef1a30 | 18:17 |
amrith | Top reviewers for the past week. Thanks folks, let's keep the momentum going in the coming week | 18:17 |
amrith | last week we said we'd bring back the top-N list ... | 18:17 |
amrith | so there you have it. | 18:17 |
amrith | I'm still trying to get a good understanding of the disagreements numbers | 18:18 |
amrith | but, ... | 18:18 |
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amrith | I think they say that Peter disagrees more than me. I don't know if that's good or bad. | 18:18 |
amrith | ;) | 18:18 |
amrith | johnma, I fixed the link in the gist; it should work now. | 18:19 |
dougshelley66 | amrith don't know if it is good or bad but don't know if i believe it :) | 18:19 |
peterstac | I see the disagreements all at 0%, so I'm not sure how they're calculated | 18:19 |
amrith | well, I read the documentation and here's is what it said | 18:19 |
johnma | I think there was a discussion past week about what this topic - regarding disagreements | 18:19 |
amrith | "Disagreements is a reflection of how disagreeable the reviewer is". | 18:19 |
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amrith | now I don't know whether more is better or less is better :) | 18:19 |
amrith | so is 100% disagreeable better or 80% ? :) | 18:20 |
amrith | seriously though, there was some chatter about this in the ML | 18:20 |
amrith | in the past two weeks | 18:20 |
johnma | I think it means, if someone +1/+2 a change and a core puts a -1 on it - thats a disagreement | 18:20 |
dougshelley66 | it isn't better or worse - this is if you +1 a review and core -1s it | 18:20 |
dougshelley66 | for example | 18:20 |
amrith | dims brought it up (thread was about gaming stackalytics) | 18:20 |
johnma | right | 18:20 |
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cp16net | yeah johnma thats how i understand it | 18:21 |
cp16net | or the opposite case as well | 18:21 |
amrith | yeah, I dont know what that is good for :) | 18:21 |
amrith | I don't think core reviewers are "better" or "worse", just that they have the ability to +2 stuff. | 18:21 |
cp16net | maybe to see how negative someone can be? | 18:21 |
cp16net | j/k | 18:21 |
amrith | anyway | 18:22 |
amrith | good momemtun | 18:22 |
amrith | the number of reviews is up | 18:22 |
amrith | the number of patch sets is healthy | 18:22 |
amrith | new and merged | 18:22 |
amrith | nothing was abandoned | 18:22 |
amrith | all goodness | 18:22 |
amrith | Anyone have anything else to add on this topic? | 18:22 |
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amrith | OK, chugging along. | 18:23 |
amrith | #topic announcements | 18:23 |
amrith | None that I know of | 18:23 |
amrith | Anyone have any? | 18:23 |
amrith | Babies, new pets, travel plans :) | 18:23 |
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johnma | :) | 18:23 |
amrith | anyone going to this thing in Austin? | 18:23 |
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amrith | next week? | 18:23 |
cp16net | i'm here | 18:23 |
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johnma | +1 | 18:23 |
cp16net | come join me | 18:23 |
cp16net | and johnma | 18:23 |
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amrith | cp16net, I'll be there Sunday afternoon. have a couple of meetings Sunday, then the WOO thing that evening. | 18:24 |
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cp16net | do you rsvps | 18:24 |
cp16net | your* | 18:24 |
amrith | ok, no announcements ... | 18:25 |
amrith | #topic Proposals for review | 18:25 |
amrith | I have none | 18:25 |
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amrith | anyone else have any? | 18:25 |
pmalik | Hi. | 18:25 |
pmalik | I pushed a long-overdue patch to the cfg.py | 18:25 |
pmalik | I would just like to draw attention to it. | 18:25 |
pmalik | You can read the commit message and comment on the | 18:25 |
pmalik | review. | 18:25 |
pmalik | If we decide this is the way we want it it will just | 18:25 |
pmalik | have to go ASAP or it's going to stall forever in merge conflicts. | 18:25 |
pmalik | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308126/ | 18:25 |
pmalik | Thx. | 18:25 |
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amrith | thanks pmalik I've starred it | 18:26 |
amrith | so it should popup on people's dashboards ... | 18:26 |
pmalik | thx :) | 18:26 |
amrith | back to the agenda ... anything in the form of a proposal that ppl want to put out there for review? | 18:26 |
amrith | ok, let's move along | 18:27 |
amrith | #topic update on projects | 18:27 |
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amrith | pmackinn, yt? | 18:27 |
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amrith | are you going to be pushing any code for the trove image build thing before summit? | 18:27 |
amrith | tellesnobrega, I've updated the session in the schedule, the etherpads and so on; now it is snapshot as a backup strategy | 18:28 |
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amrith | I will update the agenda for next week | 18:28 |
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amrith | as for the ceph spec, do you want to abandon it for now and revive it when you plan to work on it again? | 18:28 |
tellesnobrega | amrith, I saw that, thanks | 18:28 |
amrith | vkmc, any update on the sonali projects | 18:28 |
pmackinn | amrith, push where? | 18:28 |
vkmc | amrith, updated the spec yesterday, will update the code today | 18:29 |
tellesnobrega | amrith, I can do that, so it is not on the review list yes | 18:29 |
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amrith | pmackinn, I was wondering if you would be putting up any code for review before summit | 18:29 |
amrith | the spec has been out there for a while | 18:29 |
amrith | I've stopped +1'ing it; I agree with the course in general but would like to see more details | 18:29 |
pmackinn | amrith, code required for the spec? talking about bash scripts and libguestfs cli | 18:30 |
amrith | yes, that kind of stuff | 18:30 |
amrith | so ... | 18:30 |
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amrith | if you look at other specs, some have a full API definition | 18:30 |
amrith | or a detailed API specification | 18:30 |
amrith | or look at my spec https://review.openstack.org/302952 | 18:30 |
pmackinn | amrith, what API applies here? | 18:30 |
amrith | I don't believe that it has enough information in it for a +2 in a review | 18:31 |
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pmackinn | amrith, vkmc +2 it :-) | 18:31 |
amrith | it is an outline, a high level description, so I don't see anyone being willing to +2 it. | 18:31 |
amrith | pmackinn, I'm talking about the spec I put up for storage things | 18:31 |
amrith | I was wondering whether you'd be providing more details before summit | 18:31 |
vkmc | what kind of details are you expecting to see outlined in the spec amrith? | 18:32 |
pmackinn | amrith, you mean the trove image builder spec, right? i can or we could walk through it next week | 18:32 |
amrith | vkmc, not in the spec per se, but before we meet and discuss next week | 18:32 |
amrith | if there's more stuff one can read ahead of time, there's more value to the conversation there | 18:33 |
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amrith | as it is, all I have been able to do is play with the tools | 18:33 |
amrith | and familiarize myself with what they can and cannot do | 18:33 |
amrith | and I modified some existing images using those tools (well, I've been doing that for some time) | 18:33 |
vkmc | this has been discussed during the on Tokyo summit and during the midcycle as well, I'm ok with discuss this on the Austin summit as well | 18:33 |
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vkmc | but I don't see why nobody would be willing to +2 that spec | 18:34 |
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amrith | Well, I'm not in a position to +2 it because I'm not sure what the end deliverable looks like | 18:34 |
amrith | let me ask you the question this way, is there enough detail in https://review.openstack.org/302952 for you to +2 it? | 18:34 |
vkmc | that is something that ends up being defined with the code, once the proposal has been merged | 18:35 |
pmackinn | amrith, ? what spec provides a full implementation in code for review? | 18:35 |
vkmc | last time I check that was the procedure we were following with the rest of the features we have in Trove | 18:35 |
amrith | pmackinn, not full code | 18:35 |
amrith | but sufficient detail on what the API would be, for example (we have more specs like that so I go back to that example). | 18:35 |
amrith | vkmc, what's that procedure? what we've always done that I can recall is that the code and the specs merge together. | 18:35 |
tosky | so the output of the command --help ? | 18:36 |
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amrith | hard to say tosky because I don't know exactly what the shape of the things that will be delivered are. | 18:36 |
tosky | amrith: it's a tool, so a program | 18:36 |
amrith | anyway, let's discuss next week | 18:36 |
amrith | vkmc, I guess my question then is this; there are a number of specs out there, do you feel that we should be merging them before the code is written? | 18:37 |
amrith | I don't believe that we've done that before | 18:37 |
amrith | and I'm certainly not advocating that. | 18:37 |
vkmc | amrith, I don't think we should postpone merging an spec because the code is not there yet | 18:38 |
vkmc | amrith, more in the case of this feature in particular that is depending on the creation of a repository under Trove umbrella | 18:38 |
amrith | we can create the repository anytime we want | 18:38 |
vkmc | amrith, usually the process is blueprint registration -> spec -> code | 18:38 |
amrith | doesn't need a spec to merge for that | 18:39 |
amrith | SlickNik, cp16net you've been doing this longer than I have, what do you think? | 18:39 |
tellesnobrega | I believe merging spec than code is the common procedure on other projects | 18:39 |
tellesnobrega | then* | 18:39 |
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cp16net | usually we approve the spec | 18:40 |
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tellesnobrega | they don't need to coexist on the same time frame for the spec to be merged | 18:40 |
cp16net | that allows us to know what the impl will be | 18:40 |
johnma | amrith: it was my understanding that we can merge the spec before the code as long as everyone agrees with the details in the spec | 18:40 |
cp16net | and have the acceptance crtiera for it | 18:40 |
egafford | In Sahara, we do occasionally need to submit patches to modify existing specs when the impls have to deviate, but that's just an extra patch set. | 18:40 |
SlickNik | I don't think we need code for a spec to merge — we should be okay to merge the spec as long as the spec makes sense, and has sufficient detail regarding the design. | 18:41 |
vkmc | johnma++ | 18:41 |
amrith | ok, so here's the list of specs out there now. https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/trove-specs+status:open | 18:41 |
amrith | could we get reviews on them done | 18:42 |
amrith | and feedback provided | 18:42 |
amrith | and if you agree with the spec, put a +1 or +2 on it ... | 18:42 |
amrith | I currently see few specs that have this kind of review | 18:42 |
amrith | Take https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294213/ | 18:42 |
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amrith | well, maybe not that one | 18:43 |
amrith | it is WF-1 | 18:43 |
amrith | https://review.openstack.org/302952 | 18:43 |
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amrith | could we get this reviewed and +1'ed if you agree? | 18:43 |
amrith | anyway, I think we've spent a lot of time on this, we can discuss next week in detail | 18:44 |
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amrith | if the process we want to follow is that specs get merged ahead of the code, let's do that. | 18:44 |
mvandijk | amrith - what is that second spec about? | 18:44 |
amrith | click on it ... | 18:44 |
mvandijk | the commit message doesn't really say :) | 18:44 |
amrith | ok, if no one else has anything to add, let's discuss next week | 18:45 |
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amrith | #topic Work on branches other than master | 18:46 |
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amrith | There are a number of patches outstanding for Mitaka and Liberty | 18:46 |
amrith | if folks have cycles, I'd request you push up backports | 18:46 |
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amrith | we've had some new folks (brandon is one) who have pushed up some of these | 18:46 |
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amrith | Looking down the agenda, most of the rest of what we have is procedural. Please update your etherpads for summit. | 18:47 |
amrith | pmackinn, SlickNik we have one for superconductor that we should update | 18:47 |
pmackinn | amrith, SlickNik: i put what i could in that etherpad | 18:48 |
amrith | Also, at raleigh we had talk about the idea of multiple datastores with a single manager | 18:48 |
SlickNik | pmackinn: I still have the note — I'll update the etherpad with them this afternoon. | 18:48 |
amrith | if you could look over that and make sure it reflects what we discussedin raleigh that'd be great. | 18:48 |
amrith | I've updated the etherpads I had. | 18:48 |
tellesnobrega | updating mine this afternoon as well | 18:49 |
amrith | SlickNik, you and I have a couple; mgmt API, openstack CLI, and so on | 18:49 |
amrith | thx tellesnobrega | 18:49 |
tellesnobrega | np | 18:49 |
amrith | maybe we can chat about that before next week | 18:49 |
amrith | so we have the requisite info in there. | 18:49 |
SlickNik | amrith: yes, I will spend some time this afternoon updating the etherpad. | 18:49 |
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amrith | pmackinn, yours on images needs to be updated | 18:50 |
amrith | I see that flaper87 has done his | 18:50 |
amrith | dougshelley66, vgnbkr you have a couple | 18:50 |
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amrith | unfortunately neither victor nor abhishek will be at summit so I'll post a quick update on python3 | 18:51 |
amrith | we may not have a lot to discuss about that | 18:51 |
dougshelley66 | guest instance upgrade is up in review - willl be on the docket for design summit | 18:51 |
amrith | mvandijk, peterstac, pmalik you have a couple of etherpads to update | 18:52 |
pmackinn | amrith, ack | 18:52 |
amrith | that's mostly all I had | 18:52 |
amrith | #topic Open Discussion | 18:52 |
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dougshelley66 | amrith - sorry, right the design summit etherpads, got it | 18:52 |
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mvandijk | amrith: what etherpad sry? | 18:54 |
dougshelley66 | mvandijk i'll fill you in | 18:54 |
twm2016 | When the etherpads are complete, maybe they can be put on this page for others to easily view? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Newton/Etherpads#Trove | 18:55 |
twm2016 | - if its design summit related. | 18:55 |
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amrith | twm2016, doing it now | 18:56 |
amrith | done | 18:56 |
twm2016 | awesome, thanks. | 18:56 |
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pmackinn | newton sessions http://bit.ly/22Oklpy | 18:57 |
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amrith | actually this may look better now | 18:58 |
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amrith | anything else? | 18:58 |
amrith | 2m to go ... | 18:58 |
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johnma | I am assuming Trove meeting is cancelled for next week | 18:59 |
amrith | yup | 18:59 |
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amrith | going once | 19:00 |
amrith | Well, I guess we're out of time :) | 19:01 |
amrith | #endmeeting | 19:01 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 20 19:01:13 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-04-20-18.01.html | 19:01 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-04-20-18.01.txt | 19:01 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-04-20-18.01.log.html | 19:01 |
johnma | thanks Amrith | 19:01 |
tellesnobrega | thanks | 19:01 |
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xgerman | o/ | 19:59 |
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johnsom | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 20 20:00:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
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bharathm | o/ | 20:00 |
blogan | ^^^^^^^^^^^|||||||||||||||^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | 20:00 |
johnsom | Hi folks | 20:00 |
fnaval | o/ | 20:00 |
ajmiller | hi | 20:00 |
TrevorV | o/ | 20:00 |
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johnsom | blogan ??? It looks like we are playing an old text based game... | 20:00 |
minwang2 | o/ | 20:00 |
blogan | johnsom: its my new wave, its trademarked | 20:00 |
johnsom | Ah the good old days | 20:00 |
xgerman | blogan make sure to add TM to it | 20:01 |
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johnsom | #topic Announcements | 20:01 |
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johnsom | I don't have any announcements other than the summit is next week, no meeting | 20:01 |
xgerman | for those at home there will be videos to watch | 20:01 |
johnsom | Anyone else? | 20:02 |
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johnsom | #topic OpenStack summit | 20:02 |
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blogan | the summit is next week?!?!?!?! | 20:02 |
xgerman | in Austin! | 20:02 |
johnsom | I posted a list of session that may be of interest to us: | 20:02 |
johnsom | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Octavia/Weekly_Meeting_Agenda | 20:02 |
TrevorV | Its my first summit guys, so I'm probably just going to follow people around like a lost puppy... :D | 20:03 |
xgerman | :-) | 20:03 |
johnsom | Hahaha | 20:03 |
blogan | good thing i'm going in disguise | 20:03 |
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johnsom | Yeah, we have HPE areas to we can totally ditch you | 20:03 |
johnsom | JK | 20:04 |
blogan | just leave him face down in an alley | 20:04 |
Frito | sry for being late. | 20:04 |
blogan | Frito: you lied | 20:04 |
xgerman | also keep in mind for a lot of us this will be the last summit | 20:04 |
johnsom | Frito welcome! | 20:04 |
blogan | xgerman: what do you mean? | 20:04 |
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xgerman | (since Europe travel is always tricky) | 20:04 |
TrevorV | the last summit xgerman ? | 20:04 |
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blogan | oh i wont be able to go to barcelona bc of new babies | 20:04 |
TrevorV | You mean it'll be tougher to travel to future summits, or you're backing out of the project? | 20:04 |
Frito | I did lie. I joined it on the rackspace irc, not freenode | 20:05 |
Frito | oops | 20:05 |
xgerman | there will only be one more summit — then it’s dev only meetings | 20:05 |
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Frito | mando is hopping on webchat now | 20:05 |
johnsom | Ah, the back channels where you guys mock us | 20:05 |
blogan | xgerman: oh thats final? | 20:05 |
TrevorV | Oh, I missed that comm, xgerman | 20:05 |
Frito | thx johnsom | 20:05 |
xgerman | blogan I think so | 20:05 |
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johnsom | Yeah, it's final as far as I know | 20:06 |
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xgerman | our management is treating it as a done deal | 20:06 |
fnaval | yeah, the split between dev sessions and summit | 20:06 |
blogan | your management is hoping probably lol | 20:06 |
xgerman | yep | 20:06 |
blogan | ours too | 20:06 |
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blogan | honestly though, the biggest expense is hotel, not airfare | 20:06 |
xgerman | well, hence the new locations like Des Moines | 20:06 |
xgerman | or Boise | 20:06 |
blogan | but i guess if the hotels are in the touristy cities internationally then that does hurt | 20:06 |
blogan | yeah | 20:06 |
xgerman | Fargo in Winter... | 20:07 |
blogan | paris is cheap right? | 20:07 |
xgerman | I think so | 20:07 |
johnsom | HP has done Miami in July. That was un-pleasant | 20:07 |
TrevorV | I say Hawaii | 20:07 |
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TrevorV | One of the smaller islands | 20:07 |
blogan | I say we've diverged :) | 20:08 |
johnsom | I'm sure it was cheap, but wow, hot and humid | 20:08 |
blogan | digressed | 20:08 |
blogan | i mean | 20:08 |
blogan | :( | 20:08 |
johnsom | Yes. Any other announcements/questions about the summit? | 20:08 |
xgerman | well, what I am saying we need to make Austin epic | 20:08 |
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blogan | it needs to be so epic that i'm sober enough to drive back home everynight | 20:08 |
xgerman | well, if you stay long enough sessions start again | 20:09 |
johnsom | Hahaha | 20:09 |
TrevorV | If I'm riding with blogan then I'm okay to be trashed. | 20:09 |
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xgerman | RAX isn’t running a shuttle? | 20:09 |
fnaval | i'm not gonna be the dd | 20:09 |
blogan | TrevorV: that will throw a wrench in plans to never see you at the summit | 20:09 |
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johnsom | Yeah, but he will want to leave at like 5 so he doesn't miss Jeopardy or something | 20:09 |
blogan | xgerman: that was discussed, not sure if we are or not | 20:09 |
TrevorV | You right. | 20:09 |
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blogan | i dont want to miss murder she wrote | 20:10 |
johnsom | Ok, moving on.... | 20:10 |
johnsom | #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review | 20:10 |
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fnaval | matlock | 20:10 |
xgerman | naval $1 Mio $ idea remake of Matlock as a movie | 20:10 |
TrevorV | Single create still needs someone to attack it with reviews!!! | 20:11 |
fnaval | i'm working on neutron-lbaas stuff; bugs written up; thanks for everyones help | 20:11 |
xgerman | fnaval | 20:11 |
TrevorV | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257201/ | 20:11 |
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johnsom | Sorry folks, I have been heads down on internal papers, posters, and presentations and haven't had much time for reviews | 20:11 |
fnaval | interesting idea xgerman | 20:11 |
xgerman | finalized lab talk: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1AqmF3BnKLLu1W1n-XT5MSfVYrGue1JIwKSvjbWgGA6s/edit?usp=sharing | 20:11 |
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fnaval | nice! xgerman | 20:11 |
xgerman | yeah, I discovered you need 50 GV HDD space on devstack rm_work | 20:11 |
fnaval | reviews needed for some simple short tests: | 20:12 |
johnsom | Yeah, we have made good progress on the LBaaS talk too. | 20:12 |
fnaval | https://review.openstack.org/164828 | 20:12 |
fnaval | https://review.openstack.org/306669 | 20:12 |
fnaval | https://review.openstack.org/304866 | 20:12 |
fnaval | https://review.openstack.org/306083 | 20:12 |
fnaval | https://review.openstack.org/306182 | 20:12 |
fnaval | https://review.openstack.org/305525 | 20:12 |
blogan | whoa! | 20:12 |
TrevorV | #link https://review.openstack.org/164828 | 20:12 |
johnsom | Busy, that is great! | 20:12 |
TrevorV | #link https://review.openstack.org/306669 | 20:12 |
Frito | I have been trying to get ramped up mostly. I've had some discussions with blogan and mando around billing and just trying to get some general headway there. It sounds like we still need some design stuff to flesh out which can be brought up later. | 20:12 |
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TrevorV | #link https://review.openstack.org/304866 | 20:12 |
TrevorV | #link https://review.openstack.org/306083 | 20:12 |
blogan | i like how the first review # is almost half of the 2nd | 20:12 |
TrevorV | #link https://review.openstack.org/306182 | 20:12 |
blogan | must be an old one | 20:12 |
TrevorV | #link https://review.openstack.org/305525 | 20:12 |
xgerman | Fruit our people want to bill as well so we should sync up | 20:12 |
xgerman | Frito | 20:12 |
fnaval | #link https://review.openstack.org/164828 | 20:13 |
fnaval | #link https://review.openstack.org/306669 | 20:13 |
fnaval | #link https://review.openstack.org/304866 | 20:13 |
fnaval | #link https://review.openstack.org/306083 | 20:13 |
fnaval | #link https://review.openstack.org/306182 | 20:13 |
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Frito | lol @ fruit | 20:13 |
fnaval | #link https://review.openstack.org/305525 | 20:13 |
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fnaval | thanks anyway TrevorV | 20:13 |
TrevorV | Frito xgerman is notorious for renaming people | 20:13 |
Frito | sounds good xgerman :-D | 20:13 |
blogan | fruit, pothole, all great names xgerman has given people | 20:13 |
TrevorV | Who gave you towgan? | 20:13 |
johnsom | So true | 20:13 |
blogan | doug | 20:13 |
TrevorV | :D | 20:13 |
johnsom | #topic Open Discussion | 20:14 |
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blogan | billing! | 20:14 |
TrevorV | bling! | 20:14 |
johnsom | So, the LBaaS gate is broken | 20:14 |
blogan | it is? | 20:14 |
johnsom | The current patch doesn't fix it | 20:14 |
johnsom | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1572592 | 20:14 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1572592 in neutron "gate-neutron-lbaasv1-dsvm-api gate broken on Neutron LBaaS: fail to find a quota" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Victor Stinner (victor-stinner) | 20:14 |
fnaval | ah! cool - i thought it was my test | 20:15 |
blogan | v1? | 20:15 |
blogan | ugh | 20:15 |
johnsom | I just saw it, so don't have much to report on it | 20:15 |
fnaval | since it's down, folks can start reviewing the PRs that passed (like mine) | 20:15 |
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johnsom | Yeah, v1 | 20:15 |
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blogan | fnaval: if your reviews got +A'ed they wouldn't be merged bc this would fail | 20:16 |
fnaval | ah ok | 20:16 |
johnsom | Yep, I'm a victim from this on a merge | 20:16 |
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johnsom | Anyone want to jump on this? Victor hasn't poked it in three hours, so I suspect he's in a different timezone | 20:17 |
johnsom | crickets | 20:18 |
johnsom | ok | 20:18 |
blogan | i'm looking | 20:18 |
blogan | can't guarantee it | 20:18 |
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johnsom | Yeah, that is where I am too | 20:18 |
blogan | i think its something we can do in aparallel in discuss in channel | 20:19 |
johnsom | Ok, so, someone wanted to revive the billing discussion from a few weeks back. | 20:19 |
blogan | i must have missed that discussion | 20:19 |
johnsom | blogan You commented during it... | 20:19 |
xgerman | so I got our requirements which are basically when did the LB start; when did it end; subtraction | 20:20 |
blogan | ok i have some form of temporary amnesia? | 20:20 |
xgerman | that sort of squared with what TrevorV said | 20:20 |
johnsom | You advocated for runtime vs. uptime if I remember correctly | 20:20 |
blogan | oh yeah | 20:20 |
blogan | i guess right now i'm thinking about more implementation details | 20:21 |
Frito | Billing: blogan, mando and I were talking earlier. One thing we noticed is that when we save heartbeats from different amphorias it would overwrite the previous heart beat for a different amphoria since the listener_statistics table only has the pool_id PK | 20:21 |
blogan | listener_id | 20:21 |
Frito | Yea, that | 20:21 |
Frito | thx | 20:21 |
xgerman | yeah, heartbeats are sort of one-offish in our world | 20:21 |
blogan | xgerman: what do you mean subtraction? | 20:21 |
blogan | oh you just mean uptime | 20:22 |
blogan | yall dont need bandwidth or connection info? | 20:22 |
johnsom | Yeah, the stats stuff was kind of "implemented" without a "how it's used" plan | 20:22 |
xgerman | they want to bill for the time the system was used/up (need to nail that down better) | 20:22 |
Frito | blogan: I assume he meant listener_stopped_at - listener_created_at | 20:22 |
blogan | xgerman: my opinion is that once the loadbalancer goes active in the API thats when we started calculating uptime, if amps failover or whatever that shouldn't matter for uptime calculation | 20:22 |
xgerman | yep | 20:23 |
johnsom | Agree | 20:23 |
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xgerman | and if there is a network outage we reimburse | 20:23 |
blogan | ok we need a vote | 20:23 |
blogan | i dont feel safe without a vote | 20:23 |
xgerman | lol | 20:23 |
johnsom | Well, uptime is a slightly different thing, but right general idea | 20:23 |
Frito | lol | 20:23 |
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johnsom | What do you want to vote on? | 20:24 |
blogan | i'm joking | 20:24 |
blogan | sounded unanimous, at least from those present | 20:24 |
fnaval | launched_at vs created_at ? | 20:24 |
xgerman | the more interesting thing is that we need push notifications - so driver, yada, yada | 20:24 |
xgerman | let’s not split hairs on that one ;-) | 20:24 |
blogan | xgerman: can you expand on taht? | 20:24 |
xgerman | right now we push things into the labs V2 DB for the metering solution to pull with the API | 20:25 |
xgerman | what is wanted is a push into the metering solution | 20:25 |
blogan | ohhh yeah | 20:25 |
blogan | tahts what we discussed today too | 20:25 |
xgerman | and unless you guys use ceilometer we probably want a driver | 20:25 |
johnsom | launched_at should be pretty much created at I would expect. At least database bits would be in use. | 20:25 |
blogan | yeah we want it pluggable | 20:25 |
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johnsom | Yes, we need yet another driver | 20:26 |
Frito | +1 pluggable | 20:26 |
xgerman | (ideally we would get LBaaS V2 to push that so we can bill for 3rd party LBs as well) | 20:26 |
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blogan | yeah that was the next question | 20:26 |
xgerman | yep, I see path of least resistance would be to just have Octavia do it | 20:27 |
blogan | is that an octavia responsibility or nlbaas, but good piont about it needing to support all nlbaas drivers | 20:27 |
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johnsom | How is the "merge" spec coming? | 20:27 |
blogan | well, octavia is still goign to need to aggegrate the stats from each amphora's listener into one listener stat and push that to nlbaas, that needs to be there regardless | 20:27 |
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xgerman | yep, but should we push into metering from Octavia or LBaaS or both? | 20:28 |
blogan | johnsom: its coming this year! | 20:28 |
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blogan | xgerman: i guess ideally operator's choice, octavia will need it eventually as johnsom just pointed at me about with the "merge" spec | 20:29 |
fnaval | launched_at - created_at = (time waiting for LB to become ACTIVE) though, that's how servers does it | 20:29 |
johnsom | Probably lbaas, but write it in such a way it will copy into octavia nicely | 20:29 |
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xgerman | labs would then be some metering extension… which leads us to microversioning | 20:29 |
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blogan | octavia is still has more work to do for both efforts anyway, so that can start to be thought out and implemented | 20:30 |
johnsom | +1 | 20:30 |
xgerman | unless we are cheap and just run a thread every second who queries the DB and puts that out on the queue | 20:30 |
xgerman | or triggers... | 20:30 |
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Frito | ... don't say triggers | 20:31 |
johnsom | triggers are evil | 20:31 |
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Frito | we can vote on triggers being evil if blogan still wanted a vote ;-) | 20:31 |
blogan | we need some kind of vote to complete the meeting | 20:31 |
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xgerman | is there a Neutron dinner this summit? | 20:32 |
blogan | anyway, would yall agree that the work on at least aggregating the metrics from amps into single listener/loadbalancer combos can get started now, and then we can just send taht off to nlbaas, bc thats gonig to have to happen anyway | 20:32 |
xgerman | or should we vote on an LBaaS one :-) | 20:32 |
johnsom | I haven't seen anything announced | 20:32 |
Frito | I think a background process that aggregates the amphorias and spits out whatever is needed for the listener is the more scalable soloution longterm. That's just my 2 cents though. | 20:32 |
johnsom | Yeah, I would personally spawn it from housekeeping manager | 20:33 |
xgerman | +1 | 20:33 |
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johnsom | It's all about the periodic jobs | 20:33 |
blogan | yeah that makes sense | 20:33 |
xgerman | and make it HA some way | 20:33 |
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TrevorV | I agree | 20:33 |
blogan | xgerman: that might be an operator problem at that point | 20:33 |
blogan | like making the API HA | 20:33 |
xgerman | we probably need to support locking... | 20:34 |
johnsom | Well, aggregating anything makes HA harder, so, I agree we should have a plan | 20:34 |
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xgerman | +1 | 20:34 |
Frito | I brought that point up too xgerman :-) | 20:34 |
xgerman | great minds think alike :-) | 20:35 |
blogan | bwahaha | 20:35 |
blogan | i mean yeah | 20:35 |
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Frito | I apologize for the ignorance here then. Is this something we'd then schedule a break out for at some point or just hash it out in the #openstack-lbaas channel or what? I don't want to eat up the rest of the meeting on this if there are other topics that need to be hit. | 20:36 |
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johnsom | Well, this is the end of the agenda, so we can burn the time if it's a topic we need to discuss | 20:37 |
xgerman | yep | 20:37 |
Frito | Yea, I more wanted to toss that out there in case there was something else :-) | 20:37 |
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Frito | I'm going to take silence as consensus and go back to billing then :-D | 20:38 |
xgerman | yep | 20:38 |
blogan | well sounds like we'll spawn a process to do the aggregation and it'll be the thign responsible for aggregating and shooting it off to nlbaas (and at some point a pluggable piece of code) | 20:38 |
johnsom | So, I'm guessing you are going to scrape the db on some interval. HA could be done through locking and some timestamp column or something | 20:39 |
xgerman | that’s what I had in mind | 20:39 |
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blogan | well one other thing to decide on, currently heartbeats just overwrite the old record, so we don't keep track of any records in history | 20:40 |
TrevorV | xgerman johnsom could that cause other API issues? Probably not right, since the lock is per table and that table is only for heartbeats, right? | 20:40 |
blogan | do we want to continue doing that? | 20:40 |
Frito | Dumb question but we don't have a locking store? The only thing I've used in the past was Redis for it's atomic get / set operation. I'm not sure if that's suited here though. | 20:40 |
xgerman | we use mysql which locks | 20:40 |
johnsom | Yeah, depends on what you lock. Could be rows(I think mysql can do that) or an aggregation table | 20:40 |
Frito | got ya. | 20:41 |
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Frito | Okay. So the "shooting it off" bit from earlier. How do we go about defining the "it" | 20:41 |
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Frito | Is that a pattern we already have somewhere (like v1) or would this be a new chunk of info? | 20:41 |
johnsom | Probably could borrow from the build rate-limiting patch that is up for review | 20:42 |
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TrevorV | Frito honestly we can pull from the jinja stuff for the REST client for the amphora configuration. | 20:42 |
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blogan | what? | 20:42 |
* Frito note to self: find that patch | 20:42 | |
xgerman | ?? | 20:43 |
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johnsom | Lost me Frito. Are you asking about the nlbaas side sending to somewhere? | 20:43 |
johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/303304/ | 20:43 |
TrevorV | That's the communication contract after rolling the stats up for a period of time, right Frito ? That's what you're talking about | 20:43 |
blogan | yeah there's gonig to be 2 pieces that shoot, octavia to someplace, and nlbaas to some place | 20:43 |
johnsom | blogan right. | 20:44 |
TrevorV | He's talking about the ammunition, "what" is being shot. Not where its going. | 20:44 |
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TrevorV | I think. | 20:44 |
TrevorV | o_0 | 20:44 |
blogan | octavia to someplace can be to nlbaas | 20:44 |
johnsom | octavia up to nlbaas, like event streamer? | 20:44 |
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xgerman | likely exactly like event streamer | 20:44 |
blogan | johnsom: yeah thats it for now, but i can see that becoming just a plugin in octavia at some point, but don't need to worry about it now | 20:44 |
johnsom | nlbaas to celio or whatever, not sure on that one. Probably something new | 20:45 |
blogan | however, it will need tobe modified now to aggregate, and be done in the housekeeping manager process | 20:45 |
blogan | spawned | 20:45 |
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johnsom | blogan good idea, make it a plugin, current implementation is to nlbaas, but should be able to plug in the nlbaas code if needed/in future | 20:45 |
xgerman | +1 | 20:46 |
johnsom | +1 | 20:46 |
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xgerman | and that allows people to only send a subset suited to their needs | 20:46 |
mando_d | Frito is having IRC issues | 20:46 |
xgerman | don’t tell ma about issues - our DC in Houston flooded | 20:46 |
johnsom | Ugh, we just totally solved his problem... grin | 20:46 |
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blogan | i think i've got a good idea on waht we're talkinga bout, the details will need to be worked out but thats probably good enough to start implementing and discussing those as they come up | 20:47 |
xgerman | hope the irc server is up on a hill :-) | 20:47 |
johnsom | Ok, cool | 20:47 |
xgerman | yep, we probably should write a spec to make sure we are all on the same page | 20:47 |
TrevorV | blogan yeah, we'll have to put those details in our tickets | 20:47 |
TrevorV | Yeah, spec would be good for upstream | 20:48 |
xgerman | +1 | 20:48 |
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blogan | whoops | 20:48 |
fnaval | +1 | 20:48 |
ajmiller | +1 | 20:48 |
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blogan | all your +1's are for burnign specs | 20:48 |
xgerman | #voye? | 20:49 |
xgerman | #startvote Should we burn the spec? Yes, No | 20:49 |
openstack | Only the meeting chair may start a vote. | 20:49 |
TrevorV | #vote yes, | 20:49 |
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TrevorV | :P | 20:49 |
Frito | back. sorry. The wireless at my desk decided to go retarded. | 20:49 |
johnsom | Frito we finished designing it. blogan volunteered to write the design spec. | 20:50 |
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Frito | Works for me | 20:50 |
Frito | Lol | 20:50 |
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johnsom | grin | 20:50 |
Frito | Hey, if that's untrue that is between you guys ;-) | 20:51 |
blogan | johnsom, Frito: no! | 20:51 |
Frito | lmao | 20:51 |
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blogan | i still have that other spec to write | 20:51 |
blogan | one day | 20:51 |
Frito | We're getting close to time anyways and that discussion felt like it could go on for way longer. | 20:51 |
blogan | that i said i'd ahve done like last month | 20:51 |
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johnsom | Yeah. Anyway, I think we have a good start. | 20:52 |
TrevorV | Frito you can check the meeting notes after for what was discussed, and the rest is "implementation details" | 20:52 |
TrevorV | Interest in saving time I mean | 20:52 |
johnsom | Any other topics? (btw, Frito you can check the meeting log for what you missed) | 20:52 |
Frito | topic: have a great rest of your day ;-) | 20:53 |
johnsom | Ok, then I will see you in person next week. | 20:53 |
johnsom | #endmeeting | 20:53 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 20 20:53:26 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:53 |
xgerman | o/ | 20:53 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-04-20-20.00.html | 20:53 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-04-20-20.00.txt | 20:53 |
fnaval | o/ | 20:53 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-04-20-20.00.log.html | 20:53 |
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TrevorV | \o | 20:53 |
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