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| Swami | hi | 15:00 |
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| haleyb | hi swami | 15:00 |
| haleyb | #startmeeting neutron_dvr | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 4 15:00:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_dvr)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_dvr' | 15:00 |
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| haleyb | #chair Swami | 15:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Swami haleyb | 15:00 |
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| haleyb | #topic Announcements | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_dvr)" | 15:01 | |
| haleyb | Hope everyone had a good week at Summit and got home safely | 15:01 |
| haleyb | Now we have to get back to work :) | 15:02 |
| Swami | Yep | 15:02 |
| haleyb | #topic Bugs | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_dvr)" | 15:02 | |
| Swami | haleyb: there are no new bugs this week. | 15:02 |
| Swami | haleyb: There was just one RFE that was filed this week for the fast path exit. | 15:03 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1577488 | 15:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1577488 in neutron "[RFE]"Fast exit" for compute node egress flows when using DVR" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 15:03 |
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| Swami | But we still have a bunch of bugs that we need to close. | 15:04 |
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| haleyb | yes, there are still many open patches | 15:04 |
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| Swami | haleyb: I had a question on this bug | 15:05 |
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| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306065/ | 15:05 |
| Swami | There was a comment from Hon Hui Xiao on this patch regarding a chance of regression. | 15:06 |
| haleyb | yes, and i see it passed jenkins this time :-/ | 15:06 |
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| Swami | What do you think, since that is being handled in another patch, I don't want to include it here. Do you think we should also add some check in here for the delete function to check for real existence of the namespace. | 15:07 |
| haleyb | does the other patch do an "exists" first? i think that's the case | 15:07 |
| Swami | haleyb: Yes in the other patch on the super class delete, we are checking for the device exist. | 15:08 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300358/ | 15:08 |
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| haleyb | Swami: does the first patch actually open the possibility of that delete() failure? | 15:10 |
| haleyb | hmm, maybe it does | 15:10 |
| Swami | I am not sure, at this point who calls that delete even. | 15:10 |
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| Swami | May be when the router is removed, this delete in dvr_edge_router is called. | 15:11 |
| haleyb | I guess we should try and test that path then, since there's no flag indicating we actually created the namespace, just the struct | 15:12 |
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| Swami | If it makes sense, we can add the 'exists' check in this patch and so it can be backported without causing any regression. | 15:12 |
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| haleyb | yes, i was thinking the same thing | 15:13 |
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| Swami | haleyb: ok let me then add the exists check to the patch. | 15:14 |
| haleyb | It's almost like the Namespace class should have a flag to show we created the namespace, but that's not perfect either i think | 15:15 |
| Swami | yes, I always think it is better to check the system rather then the object, because the namespace in the system can be deleted directly. | 15:16 |
| haleyb | i.e. self.created or self.exists | 15:16 |
| haleyb | right, users with sudo or that cleanup script | 15:17 |
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| Swami | haleyb: yes | 15:17 |
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| Swami | haleyb: so it is better to check rather then depending on the flag that we update while creating. | 15:17 |
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| Swami_ | sorry got disconnected | 15:19 |
| haleyb | np | 15:20 |
| Swami_ | The next one in the list is | 15:20 |
| haleyb | had a question regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308068/5/neutron/agent/l3/dvr_local_router.py | 15:20 |
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| Swami_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308068/5 | 15:20 |
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| Swami_ | yes I am coming to that patch. | 15:20 |
| haleyb | Is it safe adding those static routes everywhere? | 15:21 |
| haleyb | oh, i thought we already did, but later is fine | 15:21 |
| Swami_ | It should not cause any issues. | 15:21 |
| Swami_ | Other than raising a runtime error when the interfaces are not there. | 15:21 |
| Swami_ | So the routes will not be even added there if the interfaces are not there. | 15:22 |
| haleyb | ah, i'm now remembering this conversation | 15:22 |
| Swami_ | The issue here is you might pollute the logs with the runtime error. | 15:22 |
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| Swami_ | So eventually we might have to check the cidr of the next hop and only add routes that are applicable to the namespace. | 15:23 |
| Swami_ | I had a patch that was doing this, but carl_baldwin suggested not to complicate and add the routes to all namespaces. | 15:23 |
| Swami_ | So we should probably revisit later and fix this to be specific to the namespace. | 15:23 |
| Swami_ | If we feel that raising a runtime error is an issue. | 15:24 |
| haleyb | yeah, maybe another way is to check the interface exists (if we have that info) | 15:24 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: yes | 15:24 |
| haleyb | but i'm fine leaving as-is for now | 15:24 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: #agreed | 15:25 |
| haleyb | continue with the other bugs/patches | 15:27 |
| Swami_ | yes | 15:27 |
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| Swami_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300268/ | 15:27 |
| Swami_ | This patch I still have a failure in the functional test that I am trying to fix it. I am not sure what is happening. | 15:28 |
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| Swami_ | When I debug, it is calling the right l3_notifier, but it fails the test case. Something might be messy with the mock. | 15:28 |
| Swami_ | If you get a chance can you take a look at it. | 15:29 |
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| haleyb | ok | 15:29 |
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| Swami_ | The next one in the list is | 15:30 |
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| Swami_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289172/ | 15:30 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: one question on this patch. | 15:31 |
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| Swami_ | since carl_baldwin is reverting a patch that went it to fix this issue, should I have my patch as a dependent of the revert patch or can it be alone. | 15:32 |
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| Swami_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301348/ | 15:32 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami_: I think xiaohhui might have upload a different patch that doesn't revert the entire thing. I can look in a bit. | 15:33 |
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| Swami_ | carl_baldwin: ok thanks | 15:34 |
| Swami_ | carl_baldwin: do you have the link for the patch. | 15:34 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami_: Not at the moment but I will look when I get a chance. | 15:34 |
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| Swami_ | carl_baldwin: thanks no problem. | 15:34 |
| haleyb | right, that was a partial revert | 15:34 |
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| Swami_ | ok | 15:35 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: there is another patch regarding the floatingip and allowed_address_pair for delayed fip. | 15:36 |
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| Swami_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304905/ | 15:36 |
| haleyb | i'll take a look, but think you addressed my comments | 15:37 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: Lbaas folks did test this patch and had some concern regarding the check that we make for ACTIVE ports. | 15:37 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: yes I have addressed your comments. | 15:37 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: it seems thier use case is both the VM ports will always be ACTIVE irrespective of who is MASTER or SLAVE. | 15:38 |
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| haleyb | Swami_: so will it need another update? | 15:38 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb:no we are going to have another meeting today with the lbaas folks, and I will update after it if required. | 15:39 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: I need to drop off, since I have another meeting, can you continue. That's all I had for bugs. | 15:39 |
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| Swami_ | bye | 15:40 |
| * haleyb wonders if talking to himself for 20 minutes is useful :) | 15:40 | |
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| haleyb | If noone else is listening I will just end the meeting and resume next week | 15:41 |
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| fitoduarte | I am : ) | 15:42 |
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| haleyb | fitoduarte: hi adolfo | 15:43 |
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| fitoduarte | sorry I am late again, but just want to make sure the following was mentioned: | 15:45 |
| fitoduarte | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307526/ | 15:45 |
| fitoduarte | it needs some review love | 15:45 |
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| haleyb | ok, i hadn't seen that one. Is an HA "expert" looking? | 15:46 |
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| fitoduarte | Not sure, i can add amuller and johns to reviwers. | 15:48 |
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| haleyb | yeah, especially adding all those new tests | 15:48 |
| fitoduarte | will do tx | 15:48 |
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| haleyb | anyone have other bugs/patches to discuss ? | 15:50 |
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| Swami_ | back in | 15:50 |
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| Swami_ | I don't have any at this point | 15:51 |
| haleyb | ok | 15:51 |
| haleyb | #topic Gate failures | 15:51 |
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| haleyb | The multi-node jobs seem to be trending upwards, and i've seen "qrouter namespace doesn't exist" errors this week | 15:52 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: I did see that the multinode job failures were high last week. | 15:52 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: Is that seen just in the functional tests, or all tempest tests. | 15:52 |
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| haleyb | i'm looking at tempest in https://goo.gl/L1WODG haven't got to grafana yet | 15:53 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: for the multinode I suspect that there is some infra issue, since both the neutron multinode and dvr multinode are failing. | 15:54 |
| haleyb | dvr is even below the plain multinode | 15:55 |
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| haleyb | in the check queue | 15:55 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: you mean dvr has more failures then the plain multinode | 15:55 |
| haleyb | no, dvr has less, let's make it voting! :) | 15:56 |
| Swami_ | haleyb, | 15:56 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: sure | 15:56 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: do you know of any tempest folks that can help us in writing the scenarion test for the live migration. | 15:56 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: I am not a tempest expert, since that is dependency for the nova live migration patch to go in. | 15:57 |
| haleyb | i don't know any tempest folks | 15:57 |
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| haleyb | yes, is there anyone else lurking that wants to help with this? | 15:57 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: just to speed up the process. | 15:58 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: I don't know | 15:58 |
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| haleyb | Swami_: maybe we can mark it "low hanging fruit" :) | 15:59 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: good idea | 15:59 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: I like your proposal | 15:59 |
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| haleyb | We're about out of time, so will pick this up again next week | 15:59 |
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| haleyb | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 4 16:00:12 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2016/neutron_dvr.2016-05-04-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2016/neutron_dvr.2016-05-04-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2016/neutron_dvr.2016-05-04-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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| Swami_ | bye | 16:00 |
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| rkukura | hi ML2’ers! | 16:01 |
| yamahata | hello | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | Hi all | 16:01 |
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| rkukura | lets get started | 16:02 |
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| rkukura | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 4 16:03:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:03 |
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| rkukura | Hope everyone enjoyed the summit and Austin! | 16:03 |
| rkukura | #topic Agenda | 16:03 |
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| rkukura | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_May_4.2C_2016 | 16:03 |
| rkukura | relatively light agenda today, kind of open ended | 16:04 |
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| rkukura | anyone have anything specific they’d like to add? | 16:04 |
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| rkukura | #topic Announcements | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | kind of short week - we were in a meeting Friday :-) | 16:05 |
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| rkukura | I don’t have any announcements - does anyone else? | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | Friday session was very useful - we got few conclusions | 16:06 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: “few” as in “a few”, or as in “very few”? | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev | ha ha - you are getting technical now :-) | 16:07 |
| rkukura | I will agree it was useful | 16:07 |
| rkukura | #topic Newton ML2 Charter | 16:07 |
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| rkukura | So Sukhdev and I would both like the ML2 subteam to figure out what we’d like to accomplish during Newton, so we can make progress, and justify the time we spend at these meetings ;) | 16:08 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: Did you want to add anything motivational here? | 16:09 |
| sadasu | rkukura: we are already motivated :) | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev | well, I do not have any motivational speech :-) | 16:10 |
| sadasu | I am interested in the vlan trunking feature that was discussed during the joint session between neutron and ironic | 16:10 |
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| Sukhdev | perhaps we can brainstorm as to what we believe will be useful to cover during Newton cycyle | 16:10 |
| rkukura | sadasu: That’s definitely something I’m interested in as well | 16:10 |
| sadasu | not sure if this would be considered ml2 specific, but would be useful for ml2 drivers | 16:11 |
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| Sukhdev | sadasu : in that case you should join us on Mondays at the same time slot as this meeting | 16:11 |
| rkukura | I’ve got my usual wish list for ML2 | 16:11 |
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| sadasu | Sukhdev: ok will do | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | sadasu : we run weekly meeting meeting on Monday's to cover Ironic/Neutorn integrarion and we have been driving that initiative there | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | it takes place on #openstack-meeting-4 | 16:12 |
| rkukura | I’d like to see this team focus on trunk ports in general, covering L2 agent solutions, ironic, network service appliances, etc. | 16:12 |
| sadasu | Sukhdev: thanks! | 16:12 |
| rkukura | For example, ToR MDs will need to understand trunk ports even if the L2 agent is trunking them together, right? | 16:13 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura : I think that is a good list - add to it Security, and Manila integration as welll | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura : +1 | 16:14 |
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| sadasu | rkukura: The SR-IOV based MDs would want that too. the UCSM MD included | 16:15 |
| rkukura | sadasu: good point | 16:15 |
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| rkukura | So I think we have cases where the VLAN tags can be set by the client (L2 agent), and cases where the VLAN tags need to be those used in the infrastructure (ironic, appliances, maybe SR-IOV). Is that accurate? | 16:16 |
| rkukura | By | 16:16 |
| rkukura | By | 16:16 |
| sadasu | rkukura: +1 | 16:17 |
| rkukura | By “set by the client”, I mean specified using the API vs getting whatever you get | 16:17 |
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| Sukhdev | right | 16:17 |
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| rkukura | So it sounds like trunk ports should be part of our charter for Newton | 16:18 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura : actually, you mean tag translation | 16:18 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: Yes, the L2 agent can translate (or apply) tags, but in other cases there may be no means to translate them. | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura : So, spec for this on the neutron side is already approved and merged | 16:19 |
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| Sukhdev | rossella_s is driving that charter | 16:19 |
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| Sukhdev | the spec on the ironic side needs to be updated based upon our discussion on Friday | 16:20 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: Is rossella_s covering the API in cases where there is no L2 agent that can translate tags? | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev | Sam mentioned he will update and post it | 16:20 |
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| Sukhdev | yes - that is what we covered on Friday | 16:21 |
| sadasu | ok will look for Sam's updated specs | 16:21 |
| Sukhdev | we did not use L2 agent case, but, used the TOR case - | 16:21 |
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| Sukhdev | but, in general, yes | 16:21 |
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| rkukura | OK, what else do we want to accomplish in ML2 during Newton? | 16:22 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura : API/visibility into the segments of a multi-segmented networks | 16:22 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura : I filed an RFE earlier, but, based upon Friday's discussion, I will update it | 16:23 |
| Sukhdev | will do it either later today or tomorrow - | 16:23 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: I agree, and I think the routed networks spec is already covering most of this, right? What else is needed beyond what they are doing? | 16:23 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura : for manila use-case, they need to know to which segment a specific port is bound to | 16:24 |
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| rkukura | That’s different - that is the portbinding result. I do agree we want to make that visible, but Manila will still need some way to make port binding happen. | 16:25 |
| Sukhdev | so, we need some generic API/mechanism in neutron to provide that information | 16:25 |
| rkukura | Some sort of MD that calls set_binding() for manila ports | 16:25 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: that should be done by vendor's MDs, e.g. Cisco, Arista, etc.. | 16:26 |
| rkukura | And what if there is no vendor ToR switch involved? Shouldn’t something bind for a plain VLAN-based network? | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura : no - that will not be valid deployment scenario (I think) as the storage device has to hang off from a TOR | 16:28 |
| rkukura | For a simple pure open source PoC (or CI setup), an unmanaged switch might be reasonable. | 16:29 |
| Sukhdev | Perhaps | 16:29 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura : I am assuming they would have something like that already | 16:30 |
| rkukura | Not something we need to solve right here - the Manila team will need to decide what’s important for their specific use case. | 16:30 |
| Sukhdev | similar to Ironic | 16:30 |
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| rkukura | So I think the Newton charter could include both helping get Manila integrated with more complex network deployments, and making port binding results visible via the API, with possibly the same actual solution applying to both | 16:31 |
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| Sukhdev | The RFE that I will be submitting will cover the visibility part for now | 16:32 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: Sounds good! | 16:33 |
| rkukura | There is also the live migration improvement that scheuran has been investigating. Should we include anything on that in the charter? | 16:33 |
| sadasu | rkukura: is there a spec out for that already? | 16:35 |
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| rkukura | sadasu: I don’t thihk so. He was looking into whether the generalized distributed port stuff I had been working on might be applicable. | 16:36 |
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| rkukura | So lets wait and see if he comes up with something that can be accomplished in Newton. | 16:37 |
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| rkukura | There are a coule items on my wishlist that we might tackle: enforcing extension semantics, consistent driver access to all ML2-implemented resources, and coelescing status from multiple MDs | 16:38 |
| rkukura | s/coule/couple/ | 16:38 |
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| rkukura | Anything else anyone would like to accomplish in Newton for ML2? | 16:42 |
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| rkukura | If not, lets move onto the next agenda item | 16:43 |
| rkukura | #topic Bugs | 16:43 |
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| rkukura | So there is one regarding missing options in config reference | 16:44 |
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| rkukura | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1567792 | 16:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1567792 in openstack-manuals "Mitaka Configuration Reference Nework section is missing ML2 parameters" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:44 |
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| rkukura | Is this only 3rd party (i.e. vendor) specific config options? | 16:45 |
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| rkukura | schueran filed this, so we can cover it next time he’s here if its not resolved, assigned, or invalidated | 16:47 |
| rkukura | Any other bugs to discuss? | 16:47 |
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| rkukura | #topic Open Discussion | 16:47 |
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| rkukura | Anything else to discuss, or should we wrap up for today? | 16:48 |
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| rkukura | Seems we are done | 16:49 |
| rkukura | Thanks everyone! | 16:49 |
| Sukhdev | nothing from me | 16:49 |
| Sukhdev | Thanks rkukura | 16:49 |
| rkukura | #endmeeting | 16:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 4 16:49:26 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-05-04-16.03.html | 16:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-05-04-16.03.txt | 16:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-05-04-16.03.log.html | 16:49 |
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| johnsom | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 4 20:00:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
| bharathm | o/ | 20:00 |
| johnsom | Hi everyone | 20:00 |
| minwang2 | o/ | 20:00 |
| blogan | hello! | 20:00 |
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| * Frito waves | 20:00 | |
| johnsom | #topic Announcements | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| TrevorV | o/ | 20:00 |
| johnsom | I don't have anything beyond the Summit topics today. Anyone else? | 20:00 |
| fnaval | o/ | 20:00 |
| Frito | negative | 20:01 |
| johnsom | It was nice to see you all in Austin. Getting out of Austin was a bit interesting with the storm. | 20:01 |
| dougwig | o/ | 20:01 |
| TrevorV | I do! STill have a single-create review to tear through...... | 20:01 |
| TrevorV | but that's not an announcement | 20:01 |
| TrevorV | :D | 20:01 |
| johnsom | #topic OpenStack Summit | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Summit (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:02 | |
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| johnsom | I wanted to highlight the Neutron Stadium discussions going on: | 20:02 |
| johnsom | Evolution of the Neutron Stadium | 20:02 |
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| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312199/ | 20:02 |
| eranra | . | 20:02 |
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| johnsom | Discussion about what it takes to be in the Neutron stadium, etc. | 20:03 |
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| johnsom | Long discussions on this topic at the summit | 20:03 |
| johnsom | And, on that note: | 20:03 |
| johnsom | OpenStack LBaaS project (AKA LBaaS spinout) | 20:03 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310805/ | 20:03 |
| dougwig | I owe a timeline to the ML on that this week. | 20:03 |
| xgerman | o/ | 20:04 |
| blogan | dougwig: what do you need to construct a timeline? | 20:04 |
| johnsom | We discussed and verbally decided that we should merge the neutron-lbaas and octavia projects into a new combined "OpenStack LBaaS" project | 20:04 |
| TrevorV | johnsom I'm confused. Will Openstack LBaaS be part of the "Neutron Stadium" or something? | 20:04 |
| TrevorV | What's the relationship between these two reviews? | 20:04 |
| blogan | TrevorV: no, it'll be spun out | 20:04 |
| johnsom | Good question, the proposal is no, it will be a top level OpenStack project and not under neutron | 20:05 |
| blogan | the relationship is that the stadium specs mentions octavia and neutron-lbaas will be out of the stadium | 20:05 |
| johnsom | You will see mention of that in the first patch | 20:05 |
| blogan | bc they're currently in | 20:05 |
| johnsom | Correct | 20:05 |
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| johnsom | So, both good reads and please feel free to comment. I just wanted everyone to be aware if you were not at the summit, etc. | 20:06 |
| TrevorV | Oh okay, I thought something else changed and we were back under Neutron... was really sad | 20:07 |
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| rm_work | o/ sorry wasn't paying attention, i'm here | 20:07 |
| TrevorV | But awesome, I'll keep track of both | 20:07 |
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| johnsom | #topic Brief progress reports / patches needing review | 20:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports / patches needing review (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:07 | |
| johnsom | Ok, moving on. I'm pretty sure we still have a bunch of stuff to review.... | 20:07 |
| blogan | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/311586/ | 20:08 |
| blogan | that goes in line with the spin out | 20:08 |
| bank | link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286365/ | 20:08 |
| rm_work | I think I'm going to abandon my Ansible-amp change, wasn't getting any traction with people I talked to at the summit | 20:08 |
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| rm_work | and probably we're better off just using a better (smaller) image | 20:08 |
| blogan | one of the things needed for the spin out is octavia to be able to easily absorb the current neutron-lbaas drivers | 20:08 |
| minwang2 | i am working on failover scenario test | 20:08 |
| Frito | I took a swing at fixing the missing amphora_id from the listener_statistics table. Changeset is out there at link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312595 | 20:08 |
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| dougwig | Ssh driver! | 20:08 |
| * johnsom I'll give you ssh | 20:09 | |
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| xgerman | REST forever! | 20:09 |
| TrevorV | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306084 | 20:09 |
| johnsom | dougwig I didn't see you jumping in to maintain that ssh driver, so.... | 20:09 |
| TrevorV | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257201/ | 20:10 |
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| TrevorV | I have those two reviews that could use some attention | 20:10 |
| dougwig | johnsom: shots fired!! | 20:10 |
| TrevorV | Phil is currently helping dig into the single create, but the health monitor one isn't related, and is fairly simple to review. | 20:10 |
| fnaval | i have a bunch of neutron-lbaas tests in review. but it seems like i'm going to have to migrate them over to octavia soon | 20:10 |
| rm_work | I'm tempted to volunteer to maintain the SSH driver <_< | 20:10 |
| blogan | ssh driver wouldn't solve any of these issues | 20:10 |
| rm_work | it bloats the amp image a ton | 20:11 |
| johnsom | It's gone now | 20:11 |
| blogan | unless you ssh into and start doing package manager installs | 20:11 |
| dougwig | Was a joke. :) | 20:11 |
| rm_work | can build a much leaner image with just haproxy and no python :P | 20:11 |
| johnsom | dougwig See what you started | 20:11 |
| xgerman | blogan isn’t that ansible? | 20:11 |
| blogan | how is the agent code bloating? | 20:11 |
| xgerman | ?? | 20:11 |
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| blogan | it still needs haproxy which is much larger | 20:11 |
| dougwig | It's bloated because it exists. | 20:11 |
| rm_work | no, the python install / deps / venv is MUCH larger than all of haproxy | 20:12 |
| johnsom | I think it's the python modules it needs that makes it "larger" | 20:12 |
| rm_work | order of magnitude I think | 20:12 |
| blogan | oh good point...i forgot about that :( | 20:12 |
| johnsom | Just compile the python into a binary... Grin | 20:12 |
| xgerman | we can always rewrite it in Go | 20:12 |
| blogan | taht ship has sailed! | 20:12 |
| Frito | haha @ blogan | 20:12 |
| rm_work | lol i might unsail it by proposing the SSH driver again as a CR :P | 20:12 |
| rm_work | we'll see | 20:12 |
| xgerman | that’s the in-thing todo | 20:12 |
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| johnsom | Oh look! A shiny ball with "Go" on the side.... | 20:13 |
| dougwig | Perl! | 20:13 |
| johnsom | Ok, moving on.... | 20:13 |
| xgerman | the 90s called and want their Perl back... | 20:13 |
| johnsom | #topic Open Discussion | 20:13 |
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| johnsom | Other topics for today? | 20:13 |
| blogan | dougwig: do you need anything to construct a timeline? | 20:13 |
| dougwig | Mostly an estimate from you | 20:14 |
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| xgerman | what’s this trove|sahara|octavia on the ML about? | 20:15 |
| blogan | well we need to figure out how much developer manpower we have to do the things | 20:15 |
| blogan | unless you expect me to do all of it, which i can do a good amount but i don't know if i can do all of it in a timely manner | 20:16 |
| dougwig | blogan: I'll ping you offline. I'm on my phone now. | 20:16 |
| johnsom | Trove is "commenting" that the elements don't do what they want, so they want to create a new "DIB". That is my take | 20:16 |
| blogan | dougwig: quit traveling! | 20:16 |
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| xgerman | blogan +1 | 20:16 |
| xgerman | use more teleconferencing | 20:16 |
| TrevorV | dougwig blogan johnsom however that action item list is generated, I'm really passionate about the spinout, so let me know what we need and I'll dive head-first into getting it done | 20:17 |
| johnsom | Personally, I have issues with the current elements too (bloated Ubuntu cloud image), but overall DIB works pretty well | 20:17 |
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| blogan | TrevorV: you're welcome to start working on any of those at any time | 20:17 |
| Frito | idiot question: DIB? | 20:17 |
| dougwig | We could also hand create a tiny image. | 20:18 |
| johnsom | DIB = Disk Image Builder | 20:18 |
| blogan | maybe we should prioritize them | 20:18 |
| TrevorV | blogan is it already prioritized and listed in dependent order? Meaning top of the list requires being done first? | 20:18 |
| johnsom | It's part of the triple-o project that Octavia uses to create the amphora image | 20:18 |
| johnsom | dougwig I think that is what rm_work is looking at right now | 20:18 |
| TrevorV | The moment we know "this is the first thing to do", I'm on it. Period. | 20:18 |
| rm_work | I am looking at some of our DIB elements | 20:18 |
| rm_work | but I haven't started to really mess with them yet | 20:18 |
| Frito | thx johnsom. That gave me enough to google :-) | 20:18 |
| blogan | TrevorV: no, which i just mentioned, but some of it could just be done, they all need to be done to get be done with the spinout | 20:19 |
| blogan | so they're kind of all equal priority | 20:19 |
| blogan | i have an optional section for things that don't need | 20:19 |
| johnsom | Do you all want to track this in launchpad or RFE bugs? | 20:19 |
| xgerman | did we even +2/A that spec? | 20:19 |
| johnsom | No yet | 20:19 |
| xgerman | putting the carriage before the horse, are we? | 20:19 |
| blogan | xgerman: no i think it still needs some more thoughts from the community, like you :) | 20:20 |
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| blogan | but yeah putting the definite stuff in launchpad would be a good idea | 20:20 |
| TrevorV | Yeah, if we definitely need to hash out the review more, I'll take a look and ask questions I'll have, but I will definitely get started. | 20:20 |
| johnsom | Ok, everyone please look at: | 20:21 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310667/ | 20:21 |
| johnsom | Comment, etc. Somewhere along here I will load up launchpad | 20:21 |
| TrevorV | I'll do exactly that. | 20:22 |
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| johnsom | Ok, cool. Any other open discussion topics | 20:23 |
| johnsom | ? | 20:23 |
| TrevorV | johnsom when is official last day of HP in lbaas? | 20:23 |
| TrevorV | Do we know? | 20:23 |
| xgerman | HP will stay — just the work will migrate to a new team-ish | 20:24 |
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| johnsom | Well, just to clarify, we will still be around, it's just the scope of work and number of people participating will decrease. | 20:24 |
| johnsom | Right, there is in theory some new people that might get involved. | 20:24 |
| TrevorV | Oh, okay gotcha. Misunderstood. | 20:24 |
| Frito | Love it: "in theory" | 20:25 |
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| dougwig | I'm not counting chickens. | 20:25 |
| johnsom | Yeah, well, I haven't met them yet, so, right, not counting what I don't have | 20:25 |
| dougwig | We all hope it works out, of course. | 20:26 |
| blogan | brains? | 20:26 |
| blogan | BOOM!!! | 20:26 |
| Frito | understood :-) | 20:26 |
| * blogan slithers back into his hole | 20:26 | |
| * blogan aplogizes | 20:26 | |
| johnsom | blogan Look who is talking towgan | 20:26 |
| dougwig | Trollgan | 20:26 |
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| blogan | s/towgan/Trollgan/g | 20:26 |
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| johnsom | Ok, on that note... I will close out the meeting. | 20:27 |
| dougwig | Heh | 20:27 |
| johnsom | #endmeeting | 20:27 |
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| TrevorV | trolls don't slither... Nor do they live in holes... Its bridges. | 20:27 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 4 20:27:22 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-05-04-20.00.html | 20:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-05-04-20.00.txt | 20:27 |
| fnaval | thanks! | 20:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-05-04-20.00.log.html | 20:27 |
| TrevorV | \o | 20:27 |
| xgerman | o/ | 20:27 |
| Frito | thx | 20:27 |
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| blogan | successful trolling! | 20:27 |
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