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| moshele | anyone for SR-IOV sub meeting ? | 13:00 |
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| lbeliveau | yeap | 13:00 |
| moshele | #startmeeting sriov | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 24 13:00:47 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is moshele. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sriov)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sriov' | 13:00 |
| moshele | hi everyone | 13:01 |
| lennyb | hi | 13:01 |
| lbeliveau | hello | 13:01 |
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| moshele | #topic Improving SR-IOV/PCI Passthrough CI | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Improving SR-IOV/PCI Passthrough CI (Meeting topic: sriov)" | 13:01 | |
| moshele | lennyb any update on the Mellanox CI? | 13:02 |
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| lennyb | moshele: it did not workout with Ubuntu 14.04 due to vfio issue. So I am trying Fedora 23 now | 13:02 |
| lennyb | I have assistance from wznoinsk | 13:02 |
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| moshele | lennyb ok thanks | 13:03 |
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| moshele | I also notice that the intel NFV CI is down | 13:03 |
| lennyb | moshele, yeap, they found the problem, I guess it will be up soon | 13:04 |
| moshele | ok cool | 13:04 |
| moshele | anything more about CI? | 13:04 |
| lennyb | nothing from me | 13:04 |
| moshele | the Intel PCI added resize to the experimental tests and now it passing with the resize fix | 13:05 |
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| moshele | I have as sean-k-mooney to join SR-IOV meeting see if he will respond | 13:06 |
| moshele | let move one | 13:06 |
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| moshele | #topic Documentation | 13:07 |
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| moshele | so I think all the documentation is patches are merged | 13:07 |
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| moshele | we have only the PF Passthrough for nova and neutron doc | 13:08 |
| lbeliveau | I think so as well, the only one missing is documenting PCI passthrough with neutron port | 13:08 |
| lbeliveau | I can take care of it later this week | 13:08 |
| moshele | lbeliveau ok cool | 13:08 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: do you know if it working ? | 13:08 |
| lbeliveau | moshele: no, I have to try | 13:09 |
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| moshele | ok let move to bug fixes | 13:09 |
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| moshele | #topic Bug Fixes | 13:09 |
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| moshele | so I as dansmith to review some of the resize patches | 13:10 |
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| moshele | s/as/ask | 13:10 |
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| moshele | no major issues yet :) | 13:10 |
| lbeliveau | looks like it should get merged pretty soon | 13:10 |
| moshele | I hope | 13:10 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: did you start looking on migration with your patch? | 13:11 |
| lbeliveau | moshele: no but will do either today or tomorrow | 13:11 |
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| lbeliveau | will let you know how it goes | 13:11 |
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| moshele | lbeliveau: I think you will need to update the _update_usage_from_migration with the sign value for migration | 13:12 |
| lbeliveau | noted | 13:13 |
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| moshele | if you need help we can talk on skype | 13:13 |
| moshele | ok anything else on bugs? | 13:14 |
| lbeliveau | cool | 13:14 |
| lbeliveau | not from me | 13:14 |
| moshele | #topic Specs for review | 13:14 |
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| lbeliveau | haven't updated my spec yet ... hopefully I'll do it this week | 13:15 |
| moshele | ok once it ready I will review it | 13:15 |
| lbeliveau | gjayavelu: you there ? | 13:15 |
| gjayavelu | yes lbeliveau | 13:15 |
| gjayavelu | i can try to answer if there are questions on my spec | 13:16 |
| lbeliveau | gjayavelu: you ping me last week for your spec, sorry I think we are not in the same time zone | 13:16 |
| gjayavelu | oh no problem. just wanted to chat about performance impact | 13:16 |
| moshele | gjayavelu: yes I have question regarding the sub node with migration and resize | 13:16 |
| gjayavelu | sure | 13:16 |
| moshele | currently nova-compute claim what are the pci_devices for the new falvor on resize | 13:17 |
| moshele | how this will work with sub node without changing the pci claim method? | 13:18 |
| gjayavelu | live migration is not supported on vsphere. so for cold migration, we have to detach the device and re-attach by querying the pci manager | 13:18 |
| moshele | but you need to get the same one on the sub node right? | 13:19 |
| moshele | so you need to filter it according to sub node as well in here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/pci/manager.py#L172 | 13:20 |
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| gjayavelu | when pci manager allocated a new pci device from the pool, it should have address, vendor, and sub_node too | 13:20 |
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| gjayavelu | yes, to ensure device from same sub_node, it should be filtered | 13:21 |
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| gjayavelu | moshele: please let me know if I'm not clear | 13:23 |
| moshele | gjayavelu: that why I was wandering if we should add this as filed to pci device and not to extra spec | 13:23 |
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| moshele | I wander if other virt drivers has the concept of sub node | 13:24 |
| gjayavelu | moshele: sure. I can add. I was thinking it might be a concern since it is specific to vmware driver only | 13:25 |
| gjayavelu | moshele: no. not that i know of | 13:25 |
| gjayavelu | this is only because a cluster is exposed as compute node instead of esx host | 13:25 |
| moshele | I know that ironic driver doing something similar. one nova-compute serves several bare metal | 13:26 |
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| moshele | but the resource tracking there is different | 13:27 |
| moshele | anyway let me review again on the spec | 13:27 |
| gjayavelu | oh ok. I will look into that | 13:27 |
| lbeliveau | I also need to review your latest version | 13:28 |
| gjayavelu | sure. thanks lbeliveau moshele | 13:28 |
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| moshele | there also 3 other pci/SR-iOV specs 1. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139910/ | 13:29 |
| moshele | ^ SR-IOV attached/detached | 13:30 |
| moshele | XenAPI: support VGPU via passthrough PCI - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280099/ | 13:30 |
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| moshele | PCI passthrough device role tagging - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307028/ | 13:31 |
| moshele | if you have time you can review them | 13:31 |
| lbeliveau | will do | 13:31 |
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| moshele | I will add them to the SR-IOV to the agenda | 13:31 |
| gjayavelu | that would help. | 13:32 |
| moshele | anything else on specs? | 13:32 |
| gjayavelu | nothing from me. | 13:32 |
| lbeliveau | I'm good | 13:32 |
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| moshele | ok I think we are done here | 13:32 |
| moshele | #endmeeting | 13:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 24 13:33:15 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-05-24-13.00.html | 13:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-05-24-13.00.txt | 13:33 |
| moshele | bye everyone | 13:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-05-24-13.00.log.html | 13:33 |
| lbeliveau | thanks Moshele | 13:33 |
| lbeliveau | bye | 13:33 |
| gjayavelu | bye | 13:33 |
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| shardy | #startmeeting tripleo | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 24 14:00:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is shardy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 14:00 |
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| EmilienM | o/ | 14:00 |
| shardy | #topic rollcall | 14:00 |
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| derekh | o/ | 14:00 |
| shardy | Hey all, who's around? | 14:00 |
| rbrady | \o | 14:00 |
| jdob | [T]/ | 14:00 |
| pradk | o/ | 14:00 |
| trown | o/ | 14:00 |
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| shardy | #topic agenda | 14:01 |
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| * derekh wonders if the left handed people are using different slashes to the right handed people | 14:01 | |
| d0ugal | o/ | 14:01 |
| shardy | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TripleO | 14:02 |
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| shardy | * one off agenda items | 14:02 |
| shardy | * bugs | 14:02 |
| shardy | * Projects releases or stable backports | 14:02 |
| shardy | * CI | 14:02 |
| shardy | * Specs | 14:02 |
| shardy | * open discussion | 14:02 |
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| shardy | Anyone have any one-off items to add today? | 14:02 |
| shardy | #topic one off agenda items | 14:03 |
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| shardy | #info Request for mentoring : http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/095667.html | 14:03 |
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| shardy | So this was just to draw attention to a request for mentoring on the ML | 14:03 |
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| thrash | o/ | 14:03 |
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| slagle | shardy: i saw that and was wondering if it meant that there has been a specific request for tripleo mentoring? | 14:04 |
| shardy | TripleO is listed as a project with potential need for mentors, so feel free to step up if you're interested in doing that | 14:04 |
| trown | oh neat | 14:04 |
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| shardy | slagle: tbh I'm not sure - I saw TripleO on the list and thought it'd be good if at least a couple of folks stepped up to find out ;) | 14:04 |
| shardy | it may be that it's just missing coverage from the pool of mentors I guess | 14:05 |
| trown | I will volunteer for that, and can report back :) | 14:05 |
| shardy | anyways, let me know if anyone does so and needs help e.g finding low-hanging-fruit bugs or introductory materials | 14:05 |
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| shardy | trown: thanks! | 14:05 |
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| shardy | #topic bugs | 14:06 |
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| shardy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 14:06 |
| shardy | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 14:06 |
| shardy | So we got bitten by an issue with hiera yesterday, which is now fixed via RDO packaging | 14:06 |
| shardy | and there's still an outstanding issue re pip-and-virtualenv with a patch due to land | 14:07 |
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| shardy | anything else to raise, in particular impacting CI? | 14:07 |
| slagle | i think we can land the pip and venv fix now | 14:07 |
| shardy | trown: have you looked lately at the reasons why the periodic job is failing? | 14:07 |
| slagle | it has passed all jobs cumulatively | 14:07 |
| slagle | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320019/ | 14:07 |
| shardy | slagle: +1 - I just saw that all jobs passed over $rechecks | 14:07 |
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| slagle | i just merged it :) | 14:08 |
| shardy | thanks :) | 14:08 |
| trown | shardy: not for a couple days no... a few other fires in RDO land | 14:08 |
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| shardy | trown: Ok, the reason is related to releases - we're due to do an n-1 milestone release soon and we need a clean promote to get the good sha's from | 14:09 |
| shardy | One more thing related to bugs: | 14:09 |
| shardy | " 326 Open bugs " | 14:09 |
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| shardy | I noticed there's a lot of Fix Commited bugs making that number larger | 14:09 |
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| shardy | when we cut releases for all-the-things for n-1, I'd like to run a script over the tripleo bugs and flip all Fix Committed to Fix Released | 14:09 |
| trown | shardy: ok, we have a promote in RDO from a few days ago, but I will look into what is wrong on master now that we got hiera sorted | 14:10 |
| shardy | does that sound OK to people? | 14:10 |
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| shardy | trown: that would be awesome, thanks! | 14:10 |
| beagles | +1 shardy | 14:10 |
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| slagle | +1 | 14:10 |
| shardy | it'd be great to get the open bugs back to a somewhat manageable level, and I think that should help a lot | 14:10 |
| shardy | Ok, any other bugs to highlight? | 14:11 |
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| shardy | #topic Projects releases or stable backports | 14:12 |
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| shardy | So, as I mentioned, n-1 is due on or around next Friday | 14:12 |
| shardy | #link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 14:12 |
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| shardy | I know historically we've not done milestone releases, but I wanted to propose a patch to openstack/releases next time we get a clean periodic promote so we've got a coordinated milestone release | 14:13 |
| shardy | I guess folks can consume it either via the package versions, or via the delorean hash from the periodic promote? | 14:13 |
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| shardy | obviously we might automate that via quickstart in future, but any objections to just getting things started by cutting some releases around the milestone? | 14:14 |
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| trown | +1 to milestone releases | 14:14 |
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| slagle | sounds good to me | 14:14 |
| jistr | +1 would be nice to get more towards continuous releasing if possible | 14:15 |
| shardy | Ok, sounds good then | 14:15 |
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| slagle | maybe we could even create a symlink to the repo on the delorean server | 14:15 |
| trown | I think we could only consume them via DLRN for now (for packages) | 14:15 |
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| shardy | I'll see if I can write a simple script that scrapes the periodic job hashes and formats an openstack/releases patch | 14:15 |
| shardy | slagle: Yeah, I was wondering if we could do that | 14:15 |
| trown | we could definitely create a symlink on DLRN server | 14:16 |
| trown | I have been wanting that for RDO test days for a while | 14:16 |
| shardy | So, first job is get periodic job passing, trown kindly offered to help there | 14:16 |
| trown | quickstart images made it less of an issue, but would still be nice to have | 14:16 |
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| derekh | shardy: your script to look for the hash, can just look in this file for the hash of the last passing periodic jobs http://66.187.229.99/builds/current-tripleo/metadata.txt | 14:17 |
| derekh | shardy: don't ask me about the duplicate entries, I thought I fixed that, will look again | 14:17 |
| shardy | one nit is I'm actually on PTO next week (bad timing!), so I may need a volunteer to drive the release script or I'll do it when I return on 6th June | 14:17 |
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| EmilienM | I can help on that | 14:17 |
| EmilienM | I'm doing the same thing for our Puppet modules | 14:18 |
| slagle | shardy: yea, ping me if you want help | 14:18 |
| jistr | how long are the hashes kept? If we symlink it, would the target expire at some point? | 14:18 |
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| shardy | derekh: yup, thanks - then we just need to wire that in to generate the releases | 14:18 |
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| shardy | slagle, EmilienM: thanks, will do! | 14:18 |
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| shardy | One thing related to stable backports | 14:19 |
| shardy | the liberty upgrades job - anyone looked into why pingtest is broken? | 14:19 |
| trown | jistr: I will bring it up on RDO meeting tomorrow, I think we can get permanent milestone repos on DLRN | 14:19 |
| shardy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1545318 is the bug I think | 14:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1545318 in tripleo "stable/liberty CI failing on HA job pingtest with 503 Service Unavailable" [Critical,Triaged] - Assigned to James Slagle (james-slagle) | 14:21 |
| jistr | shardy: we never made it pass IIRC. I've tried deploying liberty but it failed much earlier than that for me, haven't had bandwidth to pursue that further (got XFS inode malformed errors when ironic tried to provision the machines) | 14:21 |
| shardy | although I thought there was another one related to the upgrades job | 14:21 |
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| shardy | Ok, lets take the discussion to #tripleo after I guess | 14:22 |
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| shardy | it'd be good to understand what's needed to fix it | 14:23 |
| shardy | Anything else related to backports or releases to cover? | 14:23 |
| shardy | I saw some discussion re the aodh upgrade plan, sounds like the non-backport approach is workable? | 14:23 |
| shardy | pradk: ^^ | 14:23 |
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| pradk | shardy, yea so far it seems workable | 14:24 |
| shardy | Ok, that's good news :) | 14:24 |
| pradk | shardy, i have a patch for review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320150/ just need to wire the aodh upgrade template into upgrade flow | 14:24 |
| pradk | and see how it all works out | 14:24 |
| shardy | ack, sounds good, thanks for the update | 14:25 |
| shardy | perhaps jistr can take a look and provide feedback on how best to integrate it into the current upgrade flow | 14:25 |
| pradk | yea i'll work with jistr in getting that wired | 14:25 |
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| shardy | #topic CI | 14:26 |
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| jistr | yea. Current upgrade flow is docs. So we need one more step in the docs :) | 14:26 |
| shardy | jistr: noted :) | 14:26 |
| shardy | So, modulo the CI breaking bugs, things have been going pretty well with the upgraded CI? | 14:27 |
| shardy | derekh: do you have anything to raise re CI? | 14:27 |
| derekh | Nothing on CI from me except to say I started yesterday deploying on a new rack to switch our CI(a subset of it) onto, in 6 weeks while the other rack is down | 14:27 |
| shardy | derekh: So is the plan to switch one job to the new rack, so we maintain some coverage while the old rack is moved? | 14:28 |
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| derekh | shardy: yes, we had been talking about moveing everything to rdo cloud but it looks like it wont have the capacity available for us | 14:28 |
| derekh | shardy: so we're back to the origional plan | 14:29 |
| shardy | derekh: Ok - I guess we could still maintain some confidence with e.g the upgrades job and some manual testing | 14:29 |
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| derekh | shardy: if anybody had cycle we could also look into making more use of the infra nodes | 14:29 |
| derekh | shardy: yup | 14:30 |
| derekh | *cycles | 14:30 |
| coolsvap | derekh, shardy i am looking forward to work on tripleo ci if someone could mentor initially | 14:30 |
| shardy | I noticed some nonha jobs are getting close to ~1hr - did anyone look into the comments by pabelanger re devstack/zuul-cloner? | 14:30 |
| shardy | sounds like that may buy use a few more minutes | 14:30 |
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| shardy | coolsvap: good news! | 14:31 |
| derekh | shardy: also around the same time we did the HW upgrade we started using the overcloud cached images, so I think both things together have helped a lot | 14:32 |
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| derekh | shardy: ya, looks like using zuul-cloner directly might save us more time, not sure if pabelanger has started looking at it yet | 14:33 |
| shardy | derekh: Yeah, it's definitely improved things a quite a bit :) | 14:33 |
| ccamacho | coolsvap, managed to have your CI working? | 14:33 |
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| coolsvap | ccamacho, its in progress after i applied the fix for pip-virtualenv*** | 14:33 |
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| shardy | Ok, anything else to raise re CI this week? | 14:34 |
| shardy | #topic Specs | 14:34 |
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| shardy | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open | 14:34 |
| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319264/2/specs/newton/overcloud-upgrades-per-service.rst needs reviewers | 14:36 |
| shardy | I'm particularly interested to explore the requirements around Mistral *and* Ansible there | 14:36 |
| shardy | e.g if we do that how do we ensure a clean split | 14:36 |
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| shardy | the sriov and dpdk ones also need further feedback | 14:37 |
| shardy | anyone have anything else to raise re specs? | 14:37 |
| rhallisey | shardy, I was thinking of proposing a kubernetes-controller spec to compliment the already containerized compute node | 14:37 |
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| rhallisey | would maybe be a poc at first, but I could get it in writing in case people were interested in reading about it | 14:38 |
| shardy | rhallisey: Ok, sounds like something that would probably benefit from some initial prototyping? | 14:38 |
| rhallisey | ya it still needs some more code laid down, but I figured I would mention it | 14:38 |
| shardy | rhallisey: +1 on a poc, I think that will be hard to discuss meaningfully purely in the spec, but it would provide useful context I'm sure | 14:38 |
| rhallisey | shardy, cool sounds good | 14:39 |
| ccamacho | coolsvap, ack | 14:39 |
| shardy | Ok, well we got through the regular agenda fairly fast today - did I miss anything? :) | 14:39 |
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| shardy | #topic Open Discussion | 14:40 |
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| beagles | I started drafting a spec on neutron DVR late last week and should be putting up for initial review this week. So kind of premature mentione really ;) | 14:40 |
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| beagles | I figured it would be get to get out in the open soonest so everyone can have an opportunity to see what kind of thing will be required there | 14:40 |
| shardy | beagles: ack, thanks - and thanks for the reviews of sriov/dpdk | 14:41 |
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| shardy | Ok, anyone have anything else to raise? | 14:42 |
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| beagles | shardy: np... need to re-review :) good to get some other eyes on them to see what other kinds of things are required there. | 14:42 |
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| shardy | Ok, I guess we can end the meeting early today then, thanks everyone! | 14:44 |
| jistr | o/ | 14:44 |
| shardy | #endmeeting | 14:44 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 24 14:44:29 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-05-24-14.00.html | 14:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-05-24-14.00.txt | 14:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-05-24-14.00.log.html | 14:44 |
| ccamacho | o/ | 14:44 |
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| tmorin | #startmeeting bgpvpn | 15:10 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 24 15:10:46 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmorin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:10 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: bgpvpn)" | 15:10 | |
| tmorin | hi everyone | 15:10 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'bgpvpn' | 15:10 |
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| tmorin | hi doude, matrohon, pcarver, timirnich | 15:11 |
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| pcarver | hello | 15:11 |
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| tmorin | sorry for starting late | 15:12 |
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| doude | hi | 15:13 |
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| tmorin | hi doude | 15:14 |
| tmorin | let's see if matrohon is hanging around... | 15:14 |
| matrohon | hi | 15:14 |
| tmorin | hi matrohon | 15:14 |
| tmorin | let's start | 15:14 |
| matrohon | sorry, I forgot the meeting | 15:14 |
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| tmorin | me nearly as well, hence the late start :) | 15:14 |
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| tmorin | topics for today ? | 15:15 |
| tmorin | - bagpipe driver fixes | 15:15 |
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| tmorin | - discuss in progress on advanced routing features | 15:15 |
| tmorin | - what else ? | 15:15 |
| tmorin | - doc updates | 15:16 |
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| tmorin | #topic doc updates | 15:17 |
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| tmorin | we have had a few changes submitted to improve documentation | 15:18 |
| tmorin | some of them are typo fixes from your colleagues pcarver | 15:18 |
| tmorin | and another contribution are from one of our colleagues :) | 15:18 |
| tmorin | good to see | 15:19 |
| tmorin | good starting point to learn the ropes and be able to contribute more :) | 15:19 |
| pcarver | tmorin: I'm not getting nearly as much stuff reviewed as I'd like. But we do have new folks who have come on board and are getting started. | 15:19 |
| tmorin | +1 | 15:19 |
| matrohon | pcarver, good to hear! | 15:20 |
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| tmorin | any other update on doc side ? | 15:20 |
| pcarver | tmorin: I haven't written anything yet, but still reading more on API docs. | 15:21 |
| pcarver | This in particular https://github.com/openstack/os-api-ref/blob/master/doc/source/usage.rst | 15:21 |
| * tmorin is having a look | 15:21 | |
| pcarver | The building blocks of how to generate the dynamic API docs is becoming clearer. | 15:21 |
| pcarver | It was proof-of-concept-ed in Nova and now is being spun out for other projects to use | 15:22 |
| tmorin | that look like an efficient/simple improvement to having rst tables to describe the API | 15:23 |
| tmorin | but its' something different than relying on a tool like swagger, right ? | 15:23 |
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| pcarver | The goal is for all the OpenStack API docs to have a similar appearance with dynamic Javascript to expand and collapse details | 15:23 |
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| pcarver | And to share repetitive parts of the API, e.g. multiple calls that have common parameters | 15:24 |
| tmorin | that seems to make a lot of sense | 15:24 |
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| tmorin | it fills a different goal than trying to have bgpvpn apear somewhere at http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref.html, but I don't know how important that goal was | 15:25 |
| pcarver | i.e. http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref.html | 15:25 |
| tmorin | I am not following you | 15:26 |
| pcarver | No, I don't think so. I think this is the mechanism by which we get the API docs on http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref.html unless I'm not understanding it correctly. | 15:26 |
| tmorin | is http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref.html generated with oslo-api-ref ? | 15:26 |
| pcarver | As I understand it, the Docs team is trying to change things so that API docs can live in the project repo but be published on the API site | 15:27 |
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| tmorin | I mean: we can't just use oslo-api-ref in our doc/source tree and expect it to appear under http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref.html, right ? | 15:27 |
| tmorin | pcarver: ok, so that would be the idea, but not yet fully implemented | 15:27 |
| pcarver | tmorin: Exactly. I'm not sure it's 100% implemented yet | 15:28 |
| pcarver | But see Anne Gentle's comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319393/ | 15:28 |
| tmorin | then we could rewrite the API doc to use oslo-api-ref ; we may have to move the file and add triggers later, but that would seem like a good start | 15:28 |
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| tmorin | following this comment, I found: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319476/2/doc/contributor-guide/source/api-guides.rst | 15:29 |
| pcarver | I'm still trying to grasp how all the pieces work or will work, but as best I can understand, the idea is that the API docs will live in each projets repo and be published to api.openstack.org similar to the way that developer docs live in repo and are published to docs.openstack.org/developer/ | 15:29 |
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| tmorin | that sounds good | 15:31 |
| tmorin | so the first step would be to move API doc to an "api-ref/source" under networking-bgpvpn | 15:31 |
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| tmorin | well, not "move" but rather "recreate with oslo-api-ref" | 15:31 |
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| tmorin | and a second step may be required to trigger publication (unless the infra tools auto-detect and publish?) | 15:32 |
| pcarver | Yes, I think so, move and convert to a combination of YAML and .inc | 15:32 |
| tmorin | +1 | 15:32 |
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| pcarver | Yes, that's what I think may still be missing, a publish jobs in the Jenkins config | 15:33 |
| tmorin | but until the oslo-api-ref is published, we shouldn't remove the old-style API doc | 15:33 |
| tmorin | pcarver: probably so | 15:33 |
| tmorin | ok | 15:33 |
| tmorin | sounds good | 15:33 |
| pcarver | Right, not removing anything until we're sure that this new approach is fully baked | 15:33 |
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| tmorin | ok, do you plan to start this pcarver ? | 15:33 |
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| pcarver | Yes. It's definitely on my todo list. Just taking a while to follow the twisty path of documentation and reviews to figure out how it's all supposed to work. | 15:34 |
| tmorin | yep :) | 15:35 |
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| tmorin | #action paul to kickstart convertion of the API doc to oslo-api-ref | 15:35 |
| tmorin | :) | 15:35 |
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| tmorin | #undo | 15:35 |
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| pcarver | I think it's very much a work in progress and up until recently the Docs team has been mostly focussed on the WADL migration of old Docbook API documentation rather than the howto of projects that don't have any WADL/Docbook | 15:35 |
| tmorin | #action pcarver to kickstart convertion of the API doc to oslo-api-ref | 15:36 |
| tmorin | thanks pcarver :) | 15:36 |
| tmorin | next topic ? | 15:36 |
| tmorin | #topic advanced routing features | 15:36 |
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| tmorin | the discussion is in progress since last week in the etherpad at: | 15:37 |
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| tmorin | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/bgpvpn_advanced_features | 15:37 |
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| tmorin | the use-cases which may call for advanced features start to be quite well described for most of them | 15:37 |
| tmorin | more input is still much welcom | 15:37 |
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| tmorin | welcome | 15:37 |
| tmorin | pcarver: you are likely to be interested by some of these use cases, don't hesitate to have a look | 15:38 |
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| pcarver | tmorin: I will | 15:38 |
| tmorin | doude: as well ^^ | 15:38 |
| tmorin | doude: seeing how it will map to SDN controllers will be interesting | 15:39 |
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| tmorin | wdeclercq: hi, I've just seen your joined | 15:39 |
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| wdeclercq | tmorin: hey o/ | 15:39 |
| tmorin | wdeclercq: same comment as the one for doude above ^^ | 15:39 |
| tmorin | hey :) | 15:39 |
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| tmorin | next topic ? | 15:42 |
| tmorin | #topic bagpipe driver | 15:42 |
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| tmorin | I've pushed a few fixes for bagpipe driver last week | 15:42 |
| tmorin | a bugfix for an issue where OVS flow cookie where not correctly positioned | 15:43 |
| tmorin | fix pending review... | 15:43 |
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| tmorin | and two other changes to adapt tests and code to recent upstream changes in Neutron notifications | 15:44 |
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| tmorin | a side benefit is that this allowed to make the code simpler | 15:44 |
| tmorin | some of these are also pending reviews | 15:44 |
| tmorin | matrohon: ^^ :D | 15:44 |
| matrohon | tmorin, I know... :) | 15:44 |
| tmorin | ;) | 15:44 |
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| tmorin | next topic ? | 15:45 |
| tmorin | #topic nuage driver | 15:45 |
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| tmorin | wdeclercq: I've pushed a simple change to update the doc with minimal info on nuage driver | 15:45 |
| tmorin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317348/ | 15:46 |
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| tmorin | wdeclercq: if you could provide a pointer to nuage doc, that would be nice | 15:46 |
| wdeclercq | Yes, I've seen that,so far all I can tell is that it's definitely not wrong, I've been trying to ask if we (nuage) has some public documentation online somewhere but I Got no reply there.... Guess I'll be resending some emails :p | 15:46 |
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| tmorin | wdeclercq: ok, good to know :) | 15:47 |
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| tmorin | wdeclercq: if you end up concluding that it can't happen, we can as well push this change without a pointer... | 15:47 |
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| wdeclercq | okay, I'll probably let you know by the end of this week. Unless mails get lost in a pile of other emails again | 15:48 |
| tmorin | ok :) | 15:48 |
| tmorin | thanks | 15:48 |
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| tmorin | #topic open discuss / wrap up | 15:49 |
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| tmorin | anything else to discuss ? | 15:49 |
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| tmorin | ok, we are done for today it seems :) | 15:52 |
| tmorin | thanks everyone! | 15:52 |
| tmorin | #endmeeting | 15:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 24 15:52:29 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-05-24-15.10.html | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-05-24-15.10.txt | 15:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-05-24-15.10.log.html | 15:52 |
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| hongbin | #startmeeting containers | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 24 16:00:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hongbin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:00 |
| hongbin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2016-05-24_1600_UTC Today's agenda | 16:00 |
| hongbin | #topic Roll Call | 16:00 |
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| strigazi | Spyros Trigazis o/ | 16:00 |
| muralia_ | murali allada | 16:00 |
| mkrai | Madhuri Kumari | 16:00 |
| jvgrant | Jaycen Grant | 16:00 |
| rochaporto | Ricardo Rocha | 16:00 |
| dane_leblanc | o/ | 16:00 |
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| juggler | o/ | 16:01 |
| rpothier | o/ | 16:01 |
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| Drago | o/ | 16:01 |
| hongbin | Thanks for joining the meeting strigazi muralia_ mkrai jvgrant rochaporto dane_leblanc juggler rpothier Drago | 16:01 |
| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 16:02 |
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| hongbin | #topic Announcements | 16:02 |
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| hongbin | Any annoucement from out team members? | 16:02 |
| hongbin | s/out/our/ | 16:02 |
| hongbin | #topic Review Action Items | 16:02 |
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| hongbin | None | 16:02 |
| hongbin | #topic Essential Blueprints Review | 16:03 |
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| hongbin | 1. Support baremetal container clusters (strigazi) | 16:03 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-baremetal-full-support | 16:03 |
| hongbin | strigazi: any update for this BP? | 16:03 |
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| strigazi | Mostly working on install-guide, but I managed to create a working environment for devstack with magnum and ironic | 16:03 |
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| strigazi | We can find someone to fix: | 16:04 |
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| strigazi | kubecluster-fedora-ironic.yaml | 16:04 |
| hongbin | OK. That is only thing to fix? | 16:05 |
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| hongbin | strigazi: ^^ | 16:05 |
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| strigazi | I think that if we fix that openstack stack create kubecluster-fedora-ironic.yaml would work | 16:05 |
| hongbin | ack | 16:06 |
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| hongbin | Who can help to fix the Ironic heat templates? | 16:06 |
| strigazi | docker.service.yaml file is missing | 16:06 |
| strigazi | from kubeminion-fedora-ironic.yaml | 16:06 |
| hongbin | strigazi: OK, I will find a contributor to work with you to fix the Heat teamplates | 16:07 |
| strigazi | ack | 16:07 |
| hongbin | #action hongbin find contributor to work with strigazi to fix the Ironic Heat templates | 16:07 |
| strigazi | ironic works good on devstacl so far | 16:07 |
| strigazi | s/devstacl/devstack | 16:08 |
| hongbin | strigazi: anything else you want to update? | 16:08 |
| strigazi | Not for this bp :) | 16:08 |
| hongbin | Thanks strigazi | 16:08 |
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| hongbin | 2. Magnum User Guide for Cloud Operator (tango) | 16:08 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/user-guide | 16:08 |
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| hongbin | tango: any update from your side? | 16:09 |
| tango | Hi, has problem joining today | 16:09 |
| tango | We have 3 sections added | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | I contributed the section that was assigned to me, or COE selection. | 16:09 |
| tango | Choosing COE from Adrian, | 16:09 |
| tango | Storage from me, and Notification from Whenzi | 16:10 |
| hongbin | Sounds great | 16:10 |
| tango | I added a WIP patch on bay drivers | 16:10 |
| strigazi | and bay driver today | 16:10 |
| strigazi | it's a WIP | 16:10 |
| strigazi | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320532/1 | 16:10 |
| tango | Yes, please feel to comment | 16:10 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320532/1 | 16:10 |
| tango | This should help get everyone on the same page | 16:11 |
| hongbin | Thanks tango . Anything else you want to update the team? | 16:11 |
| tango | that's all from me | 16:11 |
| hongbin | 3. COE Bay Drivers (jamie_h) | 16:12 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/bay-drivers | 16:12 |
| muralia_ | I can update. | 16:12 |
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| hongbin | muralia_: please go ahead | 16:12 |
| muralia_ | the spec is close to being done. there are a few comments about tracking minor versions | 16:12 |
| muralia_ | and the directory structure. | 16:12 |
| hongbin | Yes, we have a session to discuss it later in the agenda | 16:13 |
| muralia_ | i've create a wip with the directory structure and started with swarm. | 16:13 |
| muralia_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319973/ | 16:13 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319973/ | 16:13 |
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| muralia_ | thats it for now. we should discuss the comments later | 16:13 |
| hongbin | Thanks muralia_ . Any question regarding to this BP? | 16:14 |
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| hongbin | 4. Create a magnum installation guide (strigazi) | 16:14 |
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| strigazi | Install from source: | 16:14 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-installation-guide | 16:14 |
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| strigazi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319399/ | 16:14 |
| strigazi | tested on ubuntu trusty and centos7 | 16:15 |
| tcammann | sorry, I'm a bit late... | 16:15 |
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| hongbin | tcammann: hey | 16:15 |
| juggler | hello tc | 16:15 |
| strigazi | The idea is two have a system user and install in a virtualenv | 16:15 |
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| strigazi | I added example init scipts and systemd units to manage services properly | 16:16 |
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| strigazi | This week I'll sync this content with packaged installations | 16:16 |
| strigazi | We have mitaka packages for fedora, suse, debian and ubuntu | 16:17 |
| strigazi | that's it from me | 16:17 |
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| strigazi | oh | 16:17 |
| hongbin | strigazi: Thanks strigazi . | 16:17 |
| hongbin | strigazi: anything else? | 16:17 |
| strigazi | please review and focus on the technical part | 16:17 |
| hongbin | I can do that | 16:18 |
| strigazi | nothing else | 16:18 |
| hongbin | Any question for strigazi ? | 16:18 |
| hongbin | #topic Magnum UI Subteam Update (bradjones) | 16:19 |
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| hongbin | I updated you on behalf of Shu Mutou: | 16:19 |
| hongbin | (Shu) I drafted following blueprints to adopt recent Horizon's changes. | 16:19 |
| hongbin | (Shu) But it needs some investigation (e.g changes of registry service). | 16:19 |
| hongbin | (Shu) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum-ui/+spec/navigation-improvements | 16:19 |
| hongbin | (Shu) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum-ui/+spec/generic-detail-framework | 16:19 |
| hongbin | (Shu) These will be needed for Newton Release, I think. | 16:19 |
| hongbin | That is all from him | 16:20 |
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| hongbin | Any comment? | 16:20 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum-ui/+spec/navigation-improvements | 16:20 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum-ui/+spec/generic-detail-framework | 16:20 |
| hongbin | OK. Adance topic | 16:21 |
| hongbin | #topic Other blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas | 16:21 |
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| hongbin | 1. Discuss bay driver version | 16:21 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296384/11/specs/bay-drivers.rst | 16:21 |
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| hongbin | muralia_: could you give a summary of the discussion in the patch? | 16:22 |
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| muralia_ | so, one topic to discuss is how to track minor versions of a baymodel. | 16:22 |
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| hongbin | you mean bay driver? (not baymodel) | 16:22 |
| tcammann | From the summit, it was understood there was a usecase where operators would need to understand what version of a bay a user is running | 16:23 |
| muralia_ | basically, when a baymodel changes dramatically, we can expect operators to create a new folder for it | 16:23 |
| adrian_otto | I made an outline of an approach in my review comments on that patch | 16:23 |
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| adrian_otto | bays can have attributes to indicate baymodel name and version. That would allow for bays created from different versions of the same baymodel to exist concurrently. | 16:23 |
| hongbin | But bay driver will have a version too | 16:24 |
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| hongbin | That means bay driver version needs to match a baymodel version? | 16:24 |
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| hongbin | Or totally remove bay driver version? | 16:25 |
| tcammann | Aren't baymodels meant to be immutable? | 16:25 |
| tcammann | Why do baymodels need a version? | 16:25 |
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| muralia_ | good point. | 16:26 |
| adrian_otto | you can version bays, baymodels, and bay drivers | 16:26 |
| muralia_ | do we are saying we create a new baymodel everytime we make a minor chage to the driver. | 16:26 |
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| strigazi | in this case the change is not minor, IMO | 16:26 |
| adrian_otto | you expect to have bays of various versions created from the same baymodel. The baymodel will refer to the newest version of a bay driver. | 16:26 |
| tcammann | How do you version a bay?? | 16:26 |
| adrian_otto | you have an attribute for baymodel name, and baymodel version. | 16:27 |
| adrian_otto | and those values are immutable. | 16:27 |
| strigazi | makes sense | 16:27 |
| adrian_otto | actually, it's simpler than that | 16:27 |
| adrian_otto | it's baymodel_name and bay_driver_version | 16:27 |
| adrian_otto | on the bay | 16:27 |
| adrian_otto | the baymodel refers to one bay driver version at a time | 16:28 |
| rochaporto | i think that makes sense | 16:28 |
| tcammann | yes there shouldn't be a baymodel version | 16:28 |
| adrian_otto | and there can be multiple versions of a bay driver present | 16:28 |
| tcammann | how are we versioning the bay driver? | 16:28 |
| rochaporto | in the dir structure? | 16:29 |
| muralia_ | we do that by creating subfolders | 16:29 |
| adrian_otto | using a semver string taht is recorded initially in the baymodel in a bay_driver_verision attribute. That value is copied to the bay's bay_driver_version upon bay creation. | 16:29 |
| tcammann | sure. Can we say the sub dirs version are mandatory, unnecessarily complicates it with making it optional | 16:30 |
| adrian_otto | the directory structure in the baymodel can follow the semver string value explicitly | 16:30 |
| tcammann | yes | 16:30 |
| adrian_otto | or we can use a manifest | 16:30 |
| muralia_ | how does the baymodel get that string? would we put that in a manifest file? or from the name of the sub directory? | 16:30 |
| rochaporto | if we need to keep multiple versions of one driver a manifest won't be enough | 16:31 |
| tcammann | Making a manifest makes it far simpler to modify the version | 16:31 |
| tcammann | It's going to be a pain in the arse copying and moving directories around | 16:31 |
| tcammann | git history looks like a mess too | 16:31 |
| muralia_ | rochaporto: can you elaborate? | 16:31 |
| tcammann | each bay driver dir has a manifest which contains a name and a version. rochaporto that should solve your issue | 16:32 |
| rochaporto | don't you need multiple copies of the driver (for multiple versions)? | 16:32 |
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| eghobo | tcammann: +1 for manifests | 16:33 |
| tcammann | if we go down either route, we still need to define when a version bumb is done | 16:33 |
| tcammann | *bump | 16:33 |
| hongbin | We could use manifest + dir structure | 16:33 |
| hongbin | manifest for versioning | 16:33 |
| rochaporto | i'm ok with a manifest if everyone else thinks it works (though i don't see how yet :)) | 16:33 |
| hongbin | dir naming for avoiding name collision for multiple version of hte same driver | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto | at our design session we talked about having a subdirectory to contain subsequent versions. If we continue with that idea, we can use the name of that subdirectory to match the baymodel's bay_driver_version string | 16:34 |
| tcammann | hongbin: but we Magnum only reads the manifest for resolving the version | 16:34 |
| adrian_otto | so it's really easy to match them up. | 16:34 |
| hongbin | tcammann: I think there is a use case that to have muliple version of k8s bay driver | 16:34 |
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| tcammann | I agree | 16:35 |
| rochaporto | current|next | 16:35 |
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| hongbin | tcammann: Like sahara, there is hadoop 1.X hadoop 2.x | 16:35 |
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| hongbin | tcammann: Then, we need to use the dir naming to avoiding name collision | 16:35 |
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| adrian_otto | the resolution of "current" and "next" can be in the manifest | 16:36 |
| hongbin | ok | 16:36 |
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| adrian_otto | so the manefest does not need to hold an arbitrary number of values | 16:36 |
| tcammann | hongbin: yes, but I don't think we should put the logic for versioning in the sub dir name. Magnum only interprets version from the manifest but we can use sub dirs to avoid name collision | 16:37 |
| muralia_ | +1 | 16:37 |
| hongbin | OK | 16:37 |
| strigazi | So we'll have both | 16:37 |
| hongbin | In summary, manifest for versioning. | 16:37 |
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| hongbin | sub dirs for name collision | 16:37 |
| hongbin | Everyone agree? | 16:38 |
| muralia_ | +1 | 16:38 |
| rochaporto | +1 (clear now) | 16:38 |
| tcammann | hmm what if you have the same version in 2 sub dirs? | 16:38 |
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| tcammann | How do you choose a sub dir? | 16:38 |
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| hongbin | We choose by iterating the dirs, and read the manifest | 16:38 |
| adrian_otto | THis shoul dbe answered in a revision of the spec | 16:38 |
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| rochaporto | the first one :) | 16:39 |
| adrian_otto | get all the questions on the review, and allow a revision to address them based on guidance from today | 16:39 |
| tcammann | ... or remove subdirs and just have top level dirs which have a manifest and name | 16:39 |
| hongbin | tcammann: Yes, that could be another option | 16:39 |
| tcammann | simpler for sure | 16:40 |
| rochaporto | ok i see now. if we're iterating the dirs then subdirs are not needed | 16:40 |
| strigazi | With that we don't have versions | 16:40 |
| strigazi | we have just many drivers | 16:40 |
| tcammann | why do you want versions? | 16:40 |
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| muralia_ | yes, that might be simpler. it makes sense because sub directories are full copies any way | 16:40 |
| hongbin | Users might want to choose the version of k8s to deploy | 16:40 |
| hongbin | So version might be needed | 16:41 |
| hongbin | E.g. user A deploy k8s 1.x | 16:41 |
| hongbin | user B deploy k8s 2.x | 16:41 |
| adrian_otto | if bay drivers are not versioned then you must destroy bays when you update bay drivers, or have a proliferation of tons of baymodels. | 16:41 |
| tcammann | I mean why do we want to support multiple versions | 16:41 |
| tcammann | We need each baydriver versioned so operators understand what the users are runnign | 16:41 |
| adrian_otto | we anticipate the cloud operator will find problems that they will resolve by updating the bay driver | 16:42 |
| tcammann | agree, but why do we need a sub dir holding multiple vers | 16:42 |
| adrian_otto | and we don't want them to have to destroy bays and re-create them to address that | 16:42 |
| adrian_otto | if you don't destroy the bays, then you will not know which bays were created with the broken version of the bay driver, and which were created with the fixed version | 16:43 |
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| adrian_otto | if the bays have bay_driver_version attributes on them, then you know this, and you have that version of the driver available to act on them | 16:43 |
| muralia_ | adrian_otto: we can do the same with just top level directories. we will have a manifest with a version number in all top level dirs. | 16:44 |
| tcammann | I 100% behind having a version somewhere... I'm saying we don't need mutliple sub dirs containing the different versions | 16:44 |
| hongbin | Another use case I can think of is to deprecate a old bay driver, we need to have both new and old driver co-exist | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | or example, if you want to stop using a heat resource group for bay masters, and begin using individual heat resources. | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | s/^or/for/ | 16:44 |
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| adrian_otto | tcammann: bear with me here | 16:45 |
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| hongbin | OK. push the discussion into the reviews | 16:45 |
| tcammann | :) | 16:45 |
| hongbin | 2. Nested container networking | 16:45 |
| adrian_otto | if I make that change, and I have a bay from driver v1 and a bay from driver v2, acting on them requires different logic | 16:45 |
| hongbin | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/095745.html | 16:45 |
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| hongbin | As explained in hte ML, I proposed to have a magnum-kuryr liaison | 16:46 |
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| hongbin | To sync up the status of container networking implementation | 16:46 |
| tango | I can help with that | 16:46 |
| hongbin | Kuryr team seems to have a liaision | 16:47 |
| hongbin | tango: Thanks Ton | 16:47 |
| tango | I have been talking to them, so I will continue and make it more regular | 16:47 |
| hongbin | tango: Could I ask you to give status update in the team meeting every weeks for the integration work? | 16:47 |
| tango | sure | 16:47 |
| hongbin | tango: thanks | 16:48 |
| hongbin | I will reply the ML and mention Ton as our liaison | 16:48 |
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| eghobo | tango: what is first COE to integrate? | 16:48 |
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| tango | I am looking at integrating the current Kuryr driver for Swarm | 16:49 |
| tango | It's pretty well understood | 16:49 |
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| tango | For Kubernetes and Mesos, we should wait for the CNI implementation in Kuryr | 16:49 |
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| eghobo | got it, thx | 16:50 |
| hongbin | Thanks tango for taking this responsibility | 16:50 |
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| tango | glad to help | 16:50 |
| hongbin | #topic Open Discussion | 16:50 |
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| hongbin | Nothing to discuss. Then we can end the meeting earlier | 16:52 |
| hongbin | ? | 16:52 |
| muralia_ | do we have updated api docs anywhere? | 16:52 |
| hongbin | AFAIK, there is no api docs right now | 16:52 |
| muralia_ | is anyone working on them? | 16:52 |
| hongbin | Yuanying is working on a swagger integration | 16:52 |
| muralia_ | ok. | 16:53 |
| hongbin | If his patch lands, we might be able to generate api docs by using swagger | 16:53 |
| rochaporto | i would like to start working on this one: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-coe-client-config | 16:53 |
| hongbin | rochaporto: I can assign it to you if you want | 16:53 |
| rochaporto | yes please | 16:53 |
| hongbin | rochaporto: you id? | 16:54 |
| rochaporto | rocha-porto | 16:54 |
| hongbin | done | 16:54 |
| rochaporto | ta | 16:54 |
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| hongbin | Wrap up earlier? | 16:55 |
| hongbin | All. Thanks for joining the meeting. Our next team meeting will be in next week the same time | 16:56 |
| hongbin | #endmeeting | 16:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 24 16:56:35 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-05-24-16.00.html | 16:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-05-24-16.00.txt | 16:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-05-24-16.00.log.html | 16:56 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #startmeeting murano | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 24 17:00:37 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kzaitsev_mb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:00 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #topic rollcall | 17:00 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | o/ | 17:01 |
| lexplua | o/ | 17:01 |
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| freerunner | \o/ | 17:01 |
| tlashchova_ | o/ | 17:01 |
| kzaitsev_mb | let's see who's here today for the meeting =) | 17:01 |
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| sergmelikyan | o/ | 17:01 |
| StanLagun | o/ | 17:01 |
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| zhurong | 0/ | 17:01 |
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| oshykhkerimov | o/ | 17:02 |
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| vakovalchuk | o/ | 17:03 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #topic Action Item Review | 17:04 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | we had a couple of AI related to convergence | 17:04 |
| kzaitsev_mb | 1) I was to register a BP for any future work related to convergence | 17:04 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/murano-heat-convergence | 17:05 |
| kzaitsev_mb | and Nikolay_St was to check current status | 17:05 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | hm, seems that he's not here today. Well, I'll fill in on the topic then for the record. | 17:05 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | Murano does work ok with heat-convergence enabled, all the apps are deployed/deleted just fine. However heat folks warned us from enabling it by default on our CI as the feature is not yet stable on the heat side | 17:07 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | therefore we decided to get back to it at n-1 and then n-2 milestones and see if it's ready and enable it then | 17:07 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | Nikolay_St: I've just filled everybody in on the convergence stuff ) | 17:08 |
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| Nikolay_St | kzaitsev_mb: thx. has problem with my internet connection :( | 17:08 |
| kzaitsev_mb | no problem =) | 17:09 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | 3d AI was on me — to create a backport review session, like we agreed to have one every 2 weeks, but the summit disrupted the schedule =) We have 1 for today. | 17:09 |
| kzaitsev_mb | so on to our agenda for today | 17:10 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda | 17:10 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | We've already given status update on heat convergence, so I'll skip that part =) | 17:10 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #topic Newton CPL volunteers | 17:11 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | if anyone is not familiar with the concept — here's a link | 17:11 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons | 17:11 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | So I've been working through the emails and one of them suggested that it's time to update the CPL page. | 17:12 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | Some of the CPL positions right now are assigned to me (I've also replaced katyafervent's position and Serg's with myself) but I obviously won't have time to tend all those cross-project activities | 17:14 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | So if anyone is interested in volounteering — the list is: i18n, oslo, cross-project specs, documentation | 17:15 |
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| Nikolay_St | kzaitsev_mb: I can try cross-project specs | 17:16 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | Nikolay_St: great (I actually think I've removed that from you and wanted to ask you if you're still interested in being that sort of a CPL) | 17:17 |
| kzaitsev_mb | Nikolay_St: so obviously you are =) | 17:17 |
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| Nikolay_St | kzaitsev_mb: so, also I'm not sure that log working group is still alive | 17:17 |
| Nikolay_St | will check it tomorrow | 17:17 |
| kzaitsev_mb | Could you please update the wiki respectively? =) | 17:17 |
| Nikolay_St | sure | 17:18 |
| Nikolay_St | give me a minute =) | 17:18 |
| kzaitsev_mb | we still have oslo, i18n and docs. =) There's no real hurry in that, but I would be happy to share some of the cross-project communications. | 17:19 |
| kzaitsev_mb | oshykhkerimov, vakovalchuk, tlashchova_, zhurong: If anyone of you is interested — those are actually pretty interesting and rewarding activities. | 17:21 |
| oshykhkerimov | I can try with oslo f.e. if smb helps me to start | 17:21 |
| HoloIRCUser | I'll think about it for sure | 17:22 |
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| vakovalchuk | sorry) | 17:22 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | like I said — there's no real hurry, feel free to ping me if you'll make you mind — I'll be able to help you around/introduce to some meetings/etc =) | 17:23 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | oshykhkerimov: cool — feel free to edit the wiki and add yourself as an oslo CPL. Ping me sometime afterwards if anything is uncertain to you =) | 17:23 |
| kzaitsev_mb | Also | 17:24 |
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| tlashchova_ | i18n looks interesting but the liason for this project should be a core reviewer | 17:24 |
| vakovalchuk | I think I can try something of these after becoming comfortable with bug supervision | 17:25 |
| kzaitsev_mb | tlashchova_: well, I think we can make an exception =) | 17:25 |
| freerunner | kzaitsev_mb: We also have VMT CPL role vacant.. | 17:26 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | tlashchova_: I'm +1 on delegating i18n CPL to you, so unless there are any objections — let's put you into that position and see how it works out | 17:27 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | freerunner: vulnerability management — true. | 17:28 |
| kzaitsev_mb | well, I think I'll reseve that one for myself for now | 17:28 |
| kzaitsev_mb | unless there is a volounteer — whereas I suggest we would put both of us there and work together on that | 17:29 |
| kzaitsev_mb | Also. We've put freerunner as a Infra and QA CPL — he has been fulfilling those roles anyways =) | 17:29 |
| kzaitsev_mb | tlashchova_: seems like no objections — so could you please update the wiki and but your name in the i18n liaison? =) | 17:30 |
| tlashchova_ | kzaitsev_mb: sure | 17:31 |
| freerunner | kzaitsev_mb: So, we also should create murano-coresec team (if we still not have it) in launchpad | 17:32 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #info New CPLs for newton cycle: Nikolay_St: cross-project specs; freerunner: QA & Infra; oshykhkerimov: oslo; tlashchova_:i18n; | 17:32 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #action update the wiki to mention new CPLs | 17:32 |
| kzaitsev_mb | freerunner: well, I think you're right, but that seems to be a bit outside the discussion and I have to admit — I'm not entirelly confident in the topic | 17:33 |
| kzaitsev_mb | Let's mone this discussion to the next IRC meeting and go all the preps needed? | 17:34 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | ok, went better than expected. =) | 17:35 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #topic Review bugs to backport to stable/mitaka | 17:35 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I've put together an etherpad with potential bugs, that can be backported to s/mitaka | 17:35 |
| Nikolay_St | oh, the best part | 17:36 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/murano-stable-backports | 17:36 |
| kzaitsev_mb | it's a bit big, since we hadn't backported much since 2.0.0 =) | 17:36 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I'll give you guys some time to read/look through it =) | 17:37 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | Most of the bugs marked as unapplicable are docs/unit-tests/new-features(wishlist-bugs) | 17:39 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | to put this list together I've used awesome tools by ihrachys, available on release-tools repository | 17:42 |
| kzaitsev_mb | worked like a charm ) | 17:42 |
| kzaitsev_mb | Smth like './bugs-fixed-since.py --repo ../../murano/murano --start 2.0.0 | ./lp-filter-bugs-by-importance.py murano | ./lp-filter-bugs-by-tag.py murano in-stable-mitaka | ./annotate-lp-bugs.py murano' | 17:43 |
| Nikolay_St | kzaitsev_mb: looks good for me | 17:43 |
| vakovalchuk | great job finding it | 17:44 |
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| zhurong | this is a great tools | 17:45 |
| kzaitsev_mb | Nikolay_St: I think I'll wait a day or two for any feedback about the bugs in the etherpad. If there would be none — I'm going to backport all of those to stable/mitaka, maybe would ask vakovalchuk to help me a bit =) | 17:46 |
| vakovalchuk | of course | 17:46 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | ok, done with this topic then. =) | 17:48 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #topic Open Discussion | 17:48 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | does anyone have anything to share =) | 17:49 |
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| Nikolay_St | hm | 17:49 |
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| Nikolay_St | I want to put this up to everyoune: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/yaql-sphinx-extension | 17:50 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/yaql-sphinx-extension | 17:50 |
| Nikolay_St | any thoughts? StanLagun ativelkov ^^ | 17:51 |
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| StanLagun | I'm okay with the first part of the etherpad but have several issues with the second one | 17:52 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I think you would be able to ping Stan on his opinion after this meeting. | 17:58 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | We're almost out of time, so if anyone has anything else — feel free to come to #murano | 17:58 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #endmeeting | 17:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 24 17:58:57 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-05-24-17.00.html | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-05-24-17.00.txt | 17:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-05-24-17.00.log.html | 17:59 |
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| catherineD | #startmeeting refstack | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 24 19:00:21 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:00 |
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| andrey-mp | hi | 19:00 |
| catherineD | Roll call | 19:00 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: hi | 19:01 |
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| pvaneck | o/ | 19:01 |
| catherineD | #link meeting agenda and notes, please feel free to add items https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-05-24 | 19:01 |
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| rockyg | o/ | 19:01 |
| catherineD | Agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-05-24 | 19:02 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: rockyg: hi | 19:02 |
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| catherineD | #topic Pending reviews | 19:02 |
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| catherineD | #link Add products REST API ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315743/ ) | 19:03 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 19:03 |
| catherineD | agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-05-24 | 19:03 |
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| catherineD | Item 1.1.1 Do we allow Foundation organization to create product? | 19:04 |
| andrey-mp | foundation users are admins - they can all ) | 19:04 |
| catherineD | For RefStack , ther will be one organization named "Foundation" ... | 19:04 |
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| catherineD | the users on this organization are essentially supper users ... | 19:05 |
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| catherineD | the question is as a Foundation organization ... will Foundation ever own products? | 19:06 |
| rockyg | Well, they certainly could /do own training products | 19:06 |
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| pvaneck | i dont see why we should limit them | 19:07 |
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| catherineD | hogepodge: your thought? | 19:07 |
| hogepodge | I wouldn't be creating any products, but if there's effort involved in restrictions then why bother? | 19:08 |
| hogepodge | Focus on core functionality | 19:08 |
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| catherineD | hogepodge: we could check if the organization type is foudation then we do not allow it to create product | 19:09 |
| catherineD | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315743/3/refstack/api/controllers/products.py line 119 | 19:09 |
| catherineD | Seems like majority of us do not think that we need that check? | 19:11 |
| pvaneck | catherineD: just allow them to do everything. I dont think we should be putting restrictions on them. There may be a case where they need that ability sometime | 19:11 |
| hogepodge | I really don't have strong feelings wither way | 19:11 |
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| catherineD | ok | 19:11 |
| rockyg | nah. can be added if we have an issue. Trust the Foundation | 19:11 |
| catherineD | #agreed Allow Foundation organization to create products | 19:12 |
| catherineD | moving on | 19:12 |
| catherineD | item 1.1.2 has resovled ... there will be only one default vendor per user | 19:13 |
| andrey-mp | agreed | 19:13 |
| catherineD | item 1.1.3 Do we allow product to be viewable by the public when its vendor is not ? | 19:13 |
| catherineD | the use case is the default vendor will never be a public vendor | 19:14 |
| catherineD | rockyg: hogepodge: FYI, per RefStack design all products must owned byt a vendor | 19:14 |
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| hogepodge | I can create devstack product now. :-D | 19:15 |
| andrey-mp | catherineD: I think that this is two different use cases | 19:15 |
| catherineD | for individual person, we allow he/she to be his/her own vendor | 19:15 |
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| rockyg | Gee, owned by the foundation, even! | 19:15 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: how so? | 19:15 |
| catherineD | rockyg: yes | 19:16 |
| andrey-mp | 1. default vendor is just a vendor. only Foundation can tell - can it be public or not | 19:17 |
| catherineD | rockyg: so if you log in and create a product unless you sepecify that the product you create belong to vendor Huawei,,, by default that product belong to you as an individual .. | 19:17 |
| andrey-mp | 2. original question - Do we allow product to be viewable by the public when its vendor is not ? | 19:17 |
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| catherineD | andrey-mp: in my mind, default vendor should not be public | 19:17 |
| andrey-mp | catherineD: I agree with this ) | 19:18 |
| andrey-mp | but second case is not followed from first | 19:19 |
| rockyg | Also, how will people see an individual's result against a vendor's product if the individual has to be public for their results to show? | 19:19 |
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| rockyg | The individual wants to be "anonymous" to everyone but the foundation | 19:19 |
| catherineD | rockyg: that is andrey-mp:'s question #2 | 19:20 |
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| catherineD | Therefore I would think that for question #2 we should allow product to be viewable by the public when its vendor is not ... in that case the product is just an anonymous product | 19:21 |
| rockyg | We could have default vendor be "anonymous" and anyone who doesn't put in a vendor gets put into "anonymous" | 19:21 |
| rockyg | Then Anonymous is public and results can be seen | 19:21 |
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| andrey-mp | rockyg: it's simplier to allow make products public even if vendor is not | 19:22 |
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| catherineD | andrey-mp: +1 | 19:22 |
| rockyg | andrey-mp, ok | 19:22 |
| andrey-mp | hogepodge: what is your thoughts? | 19:23 |
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| hogepodge | I get lots of anonymous refstack results | 19:24 |
| catherineD | so the creator can decide whether data is public or not (today's implementation). He/she can also decide whether the product is public or not .... the product may/or may not have test results associated to it | 19:24 |
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| hogepodge | so I will need time to a) capture them permanently, and b) encourage vendors to use new features that link products | 19:24 |
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| hogepodge | but if they submit results, then those results need to be public to satisfy public reporting requirement for defcore | 19:25 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: and the product need to link to a vendor (other then default vendor) | 19:25 |
| hogepodge | Two use cases | 19:26 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: absolutely .. the results will behave as it is today ... if upload anonymously will be public ... if upload with signature then the user can decide on share or not share | 19:26 |
| hogepodge | 1) vendor wants to publicly report results. Must be public | 19:26 |
| hogepodge | 2) end user wants to report on cloud they use. IMO, must also be public | 19:26 |
| hogepodge | question: allow reporting of results against product? Feels like something we want to do for accountability, but, is easily abused | 19:27 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: case 1) vendor must be public., product must be public and the result mist be public | 19:27 |
| andrey-mp | hogepodge: catherineD: we agreed on summit that user can upload results specifying product_id. and these results will be linked to specific product | 19:27 |
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| hogepodge | andrey-mp: how do we handle objections? i.e. vendor objecting to misconfigured testing | 19:28 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: correct ... that is why we should allow the product to be public even if the vendor is not | 19:28 |
| andrey-mp | hogepodge: i'm sorry - what objection is? | 19:28 |
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| catherineD | hogepodge: in that case the data only associate to the product no vendor (since it is an individual vendor) .. | 19:29 |
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| catherineD | so the data is regarded as individual opinion .. | 19:30 |
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| hogepodge | catherineD: how do we reduce confusion between individual results and vendor results? | 19:31 |
| rockyg | hogepodge, and if it's malicious, the vendor can appeal to defcore to remove the data/ban user/whatever | 19:31 |
| hogepodge | not even malicious, just incorrect | 19:31 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: vendor results will have vendor name displayed .. only official vendor (approved by foundation) can have vendor name displayed | 19:32 |
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| catherineD | this is why the default_vendor (individual vendor) can never be public | 19:33 |
| catherineD | so the dangerous thing is the individual can name the product name that can point to a vendor product ... | 19:34 |
| catherineD | the other way is to not allow viewable of products that vendor is not public | 19:35 |
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| andrey-mp | catherineD: in this case it is hard to make results viewable... either all can't see results of private vendor or user should share individual results (like now) | 19:37 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: in that case results will be viewable as it is today without product or vendor association .. | 19:38 |
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| andrey-mp | yeah | 19:38 |
| andrey-mp | just 'this results from user A' | 19:39 |
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| catherineD | hogepodge: rockyg: the key point here is ... do we want to make individual (not vendor) result easily regonizable ... or we can keep it the way it is today ... | 19:40 |
| catherineD | only associate data to product of official vendor | 19:40 |
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| andrey-mp | catherineD: is it right - individual results are a not linked to product ? | 19:41 |
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| andrey-mp | or individual results are results of private vendor ? | 19:41 |
| rockyg | good question. Don't have an answer yet. that's what happens when you spring something on me from left field! | 19:41 |
| catherineD | individual results can link or not link to a product | 19:42 |
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| andrey-mp | official vendor can have private products as I understand... | 19:42 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: correct | 19:42 |
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| andrey-mp | catherineD: so what do you mean when name results as 'individual'? ) | 19:43 |
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| catherineD | rockyg: sorry no need for answer today ... just think about it ... we can revisit next week | 19:43 |
| rockyg | Thanks! | 19:44 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: so data can be uploaded with or without product_id associated to it .... and the user can decide whether the data is share or not share | 19:44 |
| catherineD | individual means any one can upload data wiht or without product associated to it | 19:46 |
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| andrey-mp | so it just a test results... | 19:46 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: yes | 19:47 |
| andrey-mp | ok ) | 19:47 |
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| catherineD | now sharing of results without product associated with it is the case we have today | 19:48 |
| catherineD | there is not way the anyone other than the individual know the origin of the data ... | 19:48 |
| andrey-mp | catherineD: and what means your phrase - "do we want to make individual (not vendor) result easily regonizable" ? | 19:48 |
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| catherineD | when we associated the data to a product that own by non official vendor (default vendor) ...since the product is created by an individual of non official vendor | 19:49 |
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| catherineD | there is no way for us to stop the individual to name the product as "IBM cloud" for example | 19:50 |
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| andrey-mp | so 'individual results' means that these result either not linked to any product or linked to product that linked to non-Official vendor. right? | 19:51 |
| catherineD | since we allow viewing of non-official product ... people can be confused that this is official product | 19:51 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: yes | 19:51 |
| andrey-mp | and these results can change status if vendor becomes Official. right? | 19:52 |
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| catherineD | I believe that is the confusion that hogepodge: warns us | 19:52 |
| rockyg | Well, it's confusing to me. I need to see a flowchart. | 19:53 |
| andrey-mp | ok. So why we need this name for results - 'individual'? let's treat results public or private. it will be simplier for understanding | 19:54 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: ok | 19:55 |
| catherineD | rockyg: we will see what we can do ... I believe we have description on the requirement doc | 19:55 |
| catherineD | let's revisit this topic next week | 19:55 |
| catherineD | very quickly | 19:56 |
| andrey-mp | then we have a question - should we make all results public if product becomes public | 19:56 |
| catherineD | andrey-mp: item 1.3 ... I think we can merge this one | 19:56 |
| rockyg | Cool. Would be good for the site docs. | 19:56 |
| catherineD | and also item 1.2 Add preliminary support for schema version 1.5 ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319057/ ) | 19:57 |
| andrey-mp | catherineD: ok | 19:57 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319057/ | 19:57 |
| hogepodge | k | 19:57 |
| catherineD | ok let's review the product topic next week ... | 19:57 |
| catherineD | I guess for the rest of the topic we can discuss on #refstack if needed or revisit next week | 19:59 |
| catherineD | need to end the meeting now | 19:59 |
| catherineD | thank you all! | 19:59 |
| catherineD | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 24 20:00:04 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| rockyg | thanks! | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2016/refstack.2016-05-24-19.00.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2016/refstack.2016-05-24-19.00.txt | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2016/refstack.2016-05-24-19.00.log.html | 20:00 |
| rockyg | Next weekend is a long one! | 20:00 |
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