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| AshNFF | hi , I have problem with my Mitaka compute node from nova log I get this error : Instance failed network setup after 1 attempt(s) // from the controller nova log Failed to bind port 4215e6bb-b0fa-492c-a479-f4f7f20700df on host nu-vrs1 for vnic_type normal using segments [{'segmentation_id': 62, 'physical_network': None, 'id': u'b6f9bf32-54b8-4d25-bd27-37151024048d', 'network_type': u'vxlan'}] | 13:15 |
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| Swami | hi | 14:59 |
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| haleyb | hi | 15:00 |
| haleyb | #startmeeting neutron_dvr | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 25 15:00:23 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_dvr)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_dvr' | 15:00 |
| haleyb | #chair Swami | 15:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Swami haleyb | 15:00 |
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| haleyb | #topic Announcements | 15:01 |
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| haleyb | I really have no announcements, other than N-1 is soon (next week) | 15:02 |
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| Swami | that quick | 15:02 |
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| carl_baldwin | Always comes quickly. | 15:03 |
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| Swami | yep | 15:03 |
| haleyb | Yes, schedule shows May 30-03 | 15:03 |
| haleyb | #topic Bugs | 15:04 |
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| Swami | haleyb: yes | 15:04 |
| Swami | This week we had two new bugs that was filed. | 15:04 |
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| Swami | or kind of tagged with dvr_l3_backlog. | 15:04 |
| Swami | The first one. | 15:04 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1583266 | 15:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1583266 in neutron "watch_log_file = true badness" [Undecided,New] | 15:05 |
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| haleyb | It really seems like DVR is the victim of this, isn't causing it | 15:05 |
| Swami | This is related to watch_log_file=True setting. Yes DVR seems to be the most affected since, we are creating/deleting floatingip on different nodes. | 15:06 |
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| Swami | I am not sure how adding nodes into the mix causes this issue. | 15:06 |
| haleyb | There's just not a bug in the DVR code, using LOG.debug() is pretty normal | 15:07 |
| Swami | I have not seen any difference, amuller also had a comment in there that he mentioned that he had not seen this till March. I am not sure if there was any change after March that caused this problem. | 15:07 |
| haleyb | i'll at least add a comment to the bug | 15:07 |
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| Swami | There was another bug that was filed against neutron for the live migration. | 15:08 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1585165 | 15:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1585165 in neutron "floating ip not reachable after vm migration" [High,New] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:09 |
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| Swami | This seems to me like a duplicate of the bug that we had and addressed in Mitaka. | 15:09 |
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| carl_baldwin | I just assigned that to you, Swami, to confirm. I suspected that. | 15:09 |
| Swami | But I have not seen the same behavior with the fix. | 15:09 |
| Swami | So I need to re-evaluate with my patch and see if I can reproduce the same behavior. | 15:10 |
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| Swami | carl_baldwin: yes I saw your message and added a comment to it. | 15:10 |
| Swami | The unfortunate thing is that the 'nova' patch has not merged yet. | 15:10 |
| carl_baldwin | Makes sense. | 15:10 |
| Swami | The nova team wants to have the tempest test, before it can merge. | 15:11 |
| haleyb | carl_baldwin: we need someone to complete that test, as Swami just said... | 15:11 |
| Swami | So I have asked hardik to help me out on the tempest. He said he might have some time tomorrow. If it could not be resolved by tomorrow, we need some help from the tempest or nova folks to fix this test. | 15:12 |
| carl_baldwin | Just a tempest test for live migration? | 15:12 |
| carl_baldwin | ok | 15:12 |
| haleyb | live migration with dvr enabled | 15:12 |
| Swami | It seems that we need a tempest test to show that we can ssh into a VM and do a live migration and then the ssh connection does not break. | 15:12 |
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| Swami | there is already a simple live migration test, but poking into it deeper showed that it might not be doing the right tests. | 15:13 |
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| Swami | That is what is required by the nova team. | 15:13 |
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| carl_baldwin | Seems basic enough that this patch shouldn't be held hostage to make it happen. Seems like it should happen regardless. | 15:15 |
| carl_baldwin | But, ok. | 15:15 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin or haleyb let me know if you know someone who can help in writing this tempest test, since I am not too comfortable in this tempest test that involves nova api, and neutron scenario tests. | 15:15 |
| haleyb | I have reservations about the test being 100% reliable, as a migration could cause a packet drop and result in a connection drop | 15:15 |
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| Swami | haleyb: yes that is my concern to, on how we are going to achieve it. | 15:16 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: Have you tried Paul from HPE Bristol? He's done a lot of work with live migration and might have some experience testing. | 15:16 |
| haleyb | carl_baldwin: yes, the original comment was it needs to happen, it's turned-into must happen before the nova patch | 15:16 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: I have pinged him couple of times, but he has not reviewed the patch yet. I will try again. | 15:17 |
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| haleyb | let me add a link for the tempest change to the wiki | 15:18 |
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| Swami | haleyb: thanks | 15:18 |
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| Swami | This is the patch that Matt Reidemann was workin on for the tempest test. #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286855/ | 15:19 |
| haleyb | thanks | 15:19 |
| Swami | ok, the next one in the list is | 15:20 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1564776 | 15:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1564776 in neutron "DVR l3 agent should check for snat namespace existence before adding or deleting anything from the namespace" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:20 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: since you are here, we need you to take a look at this patch | 15:20 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300358/ | 15:21 |
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| Swami | haleyb and myself had a chat couple of days back about the issue. | 15:21 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: ok | 15:21 |
| Swami | But we need your opinion. | 15:21 |
| Swami | There seems to be a small race when the namespace is checked and when the device is configured in the namespace through ip_lib. | 15:22 |
| Swami | So haleyb recommended that we should not silently ignore it, but raise a warning message and also should recreate the namespace if not available. | 15:22 |
| carl_baldwin | I'll take a look. | 15:23 |
| Swami | Re-creating the namespace is a generic approach that we should take on all the namespaces. | 15:23 |
| Swami | So I thought we should take it up in a different patch where we address, recreating the namespaces and reverting to its original state. | 15:23 |
| haleyb | But it's almost an async event, as creating to add an IP address won't rebuild it completely | 15:23 |
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| Swami | carl_baldwin: yes let me know your thoughts on the patch. | 15:24 |
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| carl_baldwin | ok | 15:24 |
| Swami | haleyb: we need to kind of cache the state and rebuild it completely if something like this happens. | 15:24 |
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| Swami | The next in the list is | 15:25 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1541406 | 15:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1541406 in neutron "IPv6 prefix delegation does not work with DVR" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Ritesh Anand (ritesh-anand) | 15:25 |
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| haleyb | looks like that just needs a review | 15:26 |
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| Swami | This patch is pending for a long time. | 15:26 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277657/ | 15:26 |
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| Swami | did the dependent patches got merged. | 15:26 |
| haleyb | it was waiting on another prefix delegation patch that has merged | 15:26 |
| * haleyb should just let swami talk :) | 15:26 | |
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| Swami | haleyb: I went ahead of you. | 15:27 |
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| Swami | That's all I had for the bugs today. | 15:28 |
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| Swami | I do have a topic to discuss, we can take it up in the open discussion. This is related to a bug. | 15:28 |
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| haleyb | Ok, we can cover your RFE work there as well | 15:29 |
| Swami | haleyb: thanks | 15:30 |
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| haleyb | #topic Gate failures | 15:30 |
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| Swami | The graphite link was not working today. | 15:31 |
| haleyb | There have been other failures causing more issues than any dvr or dvr multinode job failure | 15:31 |
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| haleyb | and yes, today everything is broken, so we will just have to shelve it for next week as there is no status to see | 15:32 |
| Swami | no problem | 15:32 |
| haleyb | #topic Stable backports | 15:32 |
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| haleyb | Swami: you've been trying to get those three ipdevice changes to mitaka, still broken? | 15:33 |
| Swami | Yes, the last one is still not working and gives me the change-id issue. I can't resolve, it. If I add my id, it accepts but that is not what we want. | 15:33 |
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| Swami | haleyb: Also I have a bunch of patches that have comments from Ihar on the reason for backport. | 15:34 |
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| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313130/ This is the first one in the series and it has many child patches. | 15:34 |
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| haleyb | should we get the other two in in that series, that way gerrit might be able to do a cherry-pick from the GUI successfully | 15:34 |
| Swami | haleyb: can you take a look at it and see how we can resolve it with a clean backport. | 15:35 |
| Swami | haleyb: you mean the patch to the ipdevice. | 15:35 |
| haleyb | 313130 ? | 15:35 |
| haleyb | yes, i'm typing slow | 15:35 |
| haleyb | 313130 is a setup for others, let me look | 15:36 |
| Swami | Yes 313130 is the first patch and all other patches depend on it. | 15:36 |
| haleyb | any other backports? | 15:37 |
| Swami | There is one more. | 15:37 |
| Swami | I have been also updating the 'Etherpad' link that you posted last week with all the backports. | 15:37 |
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| haleyb | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-bug-candidates-from-master | 15:38 |
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| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319397/ | 15:38 |
| Swami | This patch needs another +2. | 15:38 |
| Swami | This backport is required only for mitaka and not for liberty. | 15:38 |
| haleyb | let me look, i have my Super Powers now :) | 15:38 |
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| Swami | haleyb: Yeah :)) | 15:39 |
| haleyb | #topic Open Discussion | 15:40 |
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| haleyb | Swami: you had some items | 15:40 |
| Swami | Yes, this is regarding the floatingip and allowed_address_pair that is associated with multiple VMs that are active. | 15:41 |
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| haleyb | the fix for lbaas | 15:41 |
| Swami | Yes | 15:41 |
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| Swami | Based on your suggestion I was thinking on can we have this floatingip for this use case addressed by the network-node. | 15:41 |
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| Swami | Which is a kind of a hybrid scenario. | 15:42 |
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| Swami | The option that i have is, let us make it user configurable to override the DVR fip behavior for the unbound ports. | 15:42 |
| haleyb | so it's a special case based on device owner ? | 15:42 |
| Swami | It will be special case of any 'unbound' ports, we are not going to even check for the device owner in this case. | 15:43 |
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| haleyb | Did you start writing an RFE already :) | 15:43 |
| Swami | We don't want to restrict this to just the lbaas, but for any application that uses HA. | 15:43 |
| Swami | Yes it is already captured in the RFE. | 15:44 |
| Swami | Let me post the link. | 15:44 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1583694 | 15:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1583694 in neutron "[RFE] DVR support for Allowed_address_pair port that are bound to multiple ACTIVE VM ports" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 15:44 |
| haleyb | thanks, added myself | 15:45 |
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| Swami | ok, the way I am planning to approach this is, I am going to utilize the 'SNAT_Namespace" to add the floatingip functionality for the private IP's that are connected to the unbount allowed_address_pair. | 15:46 |
| Swami | This will work with DVR, since all node traffic by default will be forwarded to the SNAT namespace. | 15:46 |
| haleyb | Right, sounds good to me | 15:47 |
| Swami | In the snat namespace we can add the iptable rules to apply DNAT for the ip's configured for fip. | 15:47 |
| Swami | We will not be touching the router_namespace. | 15:47 |
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| Swami | The only dependency here is the SNAT namespace and the config option. | 15:47 |
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| Swami | Do you see any issue in backporting the config option? | 15:47 |
| haleyb | Yes, new config options are enhancements, and not typically allowed | 15:48 |
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| Swami | So will that be a problem, if we cannot backport this feature and just make it to work in newton. | 15:48 |
| haleyb | even if default is False and getting current behavior | 15:48 |
| Swami | Yes if the default is False we will get the current behavior, no issues there. | 15:49 |
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| haleyb | I haven't looked at the RFE, what is the config controlling ? | 15:49 |
| Swami | I have posted a patch. | 15:49 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320669/ | 15:49 |
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| haleyb | i think i added myself, but didn't look closely | 15:51 |
| Swami | haleyb: no problem, take a look at it. | 15:51 |
| Swami | haleyb: I will try to work on the agent side patch today and see how it goes. | 15:51 |
| haleyb | ok, thanks. anything else? | 15:51 |
| Swami | haleyb: agent side should be little complex. | 15:51 |
| Swami | That's all I have. | 15:52 |
| haleyb | I just remembered I think I found another bug related to DVR Monday | 15:52 |
| Swami | haleyb: One more fun. | 15:53 |
| haleyb | The metering agent doesn't know how to meter FIP traffic, it only can handle things via the centralized router, so only default SNAT in DVR | 15:53 |
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| Swami | Have you filed a bug already. | 15:54 |
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| haleyb | No, i was helping someone trying to use it. Looked like a config issue, but once we got through that looks like it's broken. I'll file a bug today | 15:54 |
| Swami | ok, will take it. | 15:55 |
| haleyb | the metering agent hasn't been maintained much, so guess we should have known dvr would break it | 15:56 |
| haleyb | that's all i had, anything else from anyone here? | 15:56 |
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| Swami_ | I should take a look at it. | 15:57 |
| Swami_ | I don't have anything else to discuss more. | 15:57 |
| haleyb | Swami: i'll forward you the email | 15:57 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: thanks | 15:58 |
| haleyb | that's it, thanks everyone | 15:58 |
| haleyb | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 25 15:58:28 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2016/neutron_dvr.2016-05-25-15.00.html | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2016/neutron_dvr.2016-05-25-15.00.txt | 15:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2016/neutron_dvr.2016-05-25-15.00.log.html | 15:58 |
| Swami_ | bye | 15:58 |
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| Sukhdev | Folks, time for ML2 meeting | 16:00 |
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| Sukhdev | Any ML2 folks here? | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura : are you here? | 16:01 |
| rkukura | just got here | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | I do not see ML2 crowd here - | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura : I wonder if we cancel the meeting or wait for few min? | 16:03 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: Lets wait a couple minutes | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | OK | 16:04 |
| rkukura | Who is here for ML2? | 16:04 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: I think andreas_s said he was going to miss this week | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | hmmm....our usual crowd is missing as well - | 16:06 |
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| sadasu | I am here! | 16:06 |
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| rkukura | hi sadasu! | 16:07 |
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| Sukhdev | shall we start the meeting or cancel it? what do you guys say sadasu, rkukura ? | 16:08 |
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| rkukura | I vote to cancel | 16:08 |
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| Sukhdev | sadasu : I take your silence as yes as well :-) | 16:09 |
| sadasu | I don't have anything specific either | 16:09 |
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| Sukhdev | OK - lets cancel in that case | 16:09 |
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| Sukhdev | we will meet next week same place same time | 16:10 |
| Sukhdev | have a wonderful day!!! | 16:10 |
| sadasu | thanks! | 16:10 |
| rkukura | sounds good | 16:10 |
| rkukura | thanks Sukhdev | 16:10 |
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| timsim | #startmeeting Designate | 17:07 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 25 17:07:21 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is timsim. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:07 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:07 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:07 |
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| timsim | courtesy ping Kiall mugsie elarson federico3 rsyed james_li pglass | 17:08 |
| rsyed | o/ | 17:08 |
| pglass | o/ | 17:08 |
| sonuk__ | o/ | 17:08 |
| Kiall | o/ | 17:08 |
| federico3 | o/ | 17:08 |
| timsim | #topic Roll Call | 17:08 |
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| Kiall | mugsie is on holidays | 17:08 |
| * timsim has already screwed this up | 17:08 | |
| rsyed | haha | 17:08 |
| Kiall | :D | 17:08 |
| timsim | psh. Holidays | 17:08 |
| * timsim expects him to get on for the irc meeting :troll: | 17:09 | |
| Kiall | Yah, lucky -_- | 17:09 |
| timsim | #topic Annoucements | 17:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Annoucements (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:09 | |
| timsim | Does anybody want to announce anything? | 17:09 |
| Kiall | (Also, distracted - on a call with a customer..) | 17:09 |
| * timsim has a feeling this is going to be a short one | 17:09 | |
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| timsim | #topic Action Items | 17:10 |
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| timsim | I see none from last week | 17:10 |
| timsim | #topic Bug Triage | 17:10 |
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| timsim | There are none! | 17:10 |
| timsim | #topic Stable Backport Triage (kiall - recurring) | 17:10 |
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| timsim | need me to grab that Kiall ? | 17:11 |
| Kiall | sorry, yah.. please | 17:11 |
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| timsim | one moment | 17:11 |
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| timsim | http://paste.openstack.org/show/505422/ | 17:12 |
| timsim | Go through an nominate anything for backport | 17:12 |
| timsim | bc74ee8 Fix typo | 17:13 |
| timsim | jk | 17:13 |
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| rsyed | nothing jumps out | 17:13 |
| timsim | yeah | 17:13 |
| federico3 | nothing to bp | 17:13 |
| Kiall | bef53db DevStack: Support setting default quotas | 17:14 |
| Kiall | but it already went back | 17:14 |
| Kiall | wow - IRC lab | 17:14 |
| Kiall | lag* | 17:14 |
| timsim | Yeah i think there was one more that already went. the migrations | 17:14 |
| timsim | anyway | 17:14 |
| timsim | #topic Open Discussion | 17:15 |
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| timsim | Does anyone have anything they'd like to discuss? | 17:15 |
| sonuk__ | timsim: about this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278880/ | 17:15 |
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| sonuk__ | timsim: I think this is required | 17:16 |
| * timsim adds it to his list of reviews | 17:16 | |
| timsim | Looks like there was some momentum on it that just needs to pick up again | 17:16 |
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| timsim | Anything else? | 17:17 |
| Kiall | sonuk__: I saw that one too, will review the spec tomorrow :) | 17:17 |
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| sonuk__ | Kiall: ok :) | 17:18 |
| Kiall | I think there's still a bunch of +2 without +A stuff up which is worth reviewing :) | 17:18 |
| Kiall | (I think I've +2's against everything I had time to review over the last few days) | 17:18 |
| * timsim is behind on reviews | 17:18 | |
| * timsim will get on himself and elarson to do some this afternoon | 17:19 | |
| timsim | Also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283784 Worker Model | 17:19 |
| * timsim looks at Kiall | 17:19 | |
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| * timsim with pleading eyes | 17:19 | |
| * Kiall sets aside a few hours over the next 2 days to properly review + understand | 17:19 | |
| timsim | <3 | 17:20 |
| Kiall | (expect stupid questions) | 17:20 |
| timsim | expect stupid answers ;) | 17:20 |
| federico3 | timsim: adding links to documentation, comments, docstrings would help :) | 17:20 |
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| timsim | fair enough | 17:21 |
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| timsim | Alright, unless anyone has anything else we'll call it early? | 17:21 |
| Kiall | ++ | 17:21 |
| timsim | Going once | 17:21 |
| timsim | twice | 17:22 |
| timsim | #endmeeting | 17:22 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 25 17:22:23 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:22 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-05-25-17.07.html | 17:22 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-05-25-17.07.txt | 17:22 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-05-25-17.07.log.html | 17:22 |
| timsim | thanks guys. | 17:22 |
| federico3 | thanks | 17:22 |
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| amrith | #startmeeting trove | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 25 18:00:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amrith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:00 |
| peterstac | o/ | 18:00 |
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| amrith | hello peterstac | 18:00 |
| tellesnobrega | o/ | 18:00 |
| amrith | hello tellesnobrega | 18:01 |
| cp16net | howdy yall | 18:01 |
| SlickNik | o/ | 18:01 |
| amrith | hello cp16net | 18:01 |
| SlickNik | howdy cp16net | 18:02 |
| amrith | hello SlickNik | 18:02 |
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| * cp16net tips hat | 18:02 | |
| SlickNik | hi hi | 18:02 |
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| stewie925 | hi amrith | 18:02 |
| tellesnobrega | hi amrith | 18:02 |
| amrith | hi stewie925 | 18:03 |
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| dougshelley66 | o/ | 18:03 |
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| twm2016 | o/ | 18:03 |
| amrith | hello dougshelley66 twm2016 | 18:03 |
| vgnbkr | o/ | 18:03 |
| amrith | hello vgnbkr | 18:03 |
| amrith | let's get started | 18:03 |
| amrith | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:04 |
| amrith | #topic Action items from last week's meeting | 18:04 |
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| amrith | We had one last week, to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298994/5 | 18:04 |
| amrith | unfortunately, it remains undone | 18:04 |
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| amrith | #action [all] review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298994/5 | 18:04 |
| amrith | nothing else from last week | 18:05 |
| pmalik | ./ | 18:05 |
| amrith | anyone have anything else to add re: last weeks action items | 18:06 |
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| peterstac | amrith, 298994 merged | 18:06 |
| amrith | good morning ... time to wake up | 18:06 |
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| amrith | what day is it today? | 18:06 |
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| amrith | sorry, not sure what I was looking at | 18:06 |
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| amrith | so it merged, great ... | 18:07 |
| amrith | anything else to add re: action items | 18:07 |
| amrith | #topic Trove pulse update | 18:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Trove pulse update (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:07 | |
| peterstac | with the /5 on the end it takes you to a 'not current' page (something I don't really like about gerrit) | 18:07 |
| amrith | aha, that's what it was | 18:07 |
| amrith | ok, thanks for clearing that up | 18:07 |
| amrith | #link http://bit.ly/1VQyg00 | 18:07 |
| amrith | #link https://gist.github.com/amrith/7d0f3122b0132d30f6a4fa912c1e9a31 | 18:08 |
| amrith | so, the momentum we had on reviews seemed to go away last week | 18:08 |
| amrith | the queue dropped but that's largely because there were not many new changes | 18:08 |
| amrith | (fewer) | 18:08 |
| amrith | we have a number of open pages that could benefit from reviews | 18:09 |
| amrith | One area to focus is specs | 18:09 |
| amrith | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/trove-specs+NOT+label:Workflow%253C%253D-1++NOT+label:Verified%253C%253D-1%252Cjenkins+NOT+label:Code-Review%253C%253D-2+status:open++%28project:openstack/trove+OR+project:openstack/trove-integration+OR+project:openstack/trove-specs+OR+project:openstack/python-troveclient+OR+project:openstack/trove-dashboard%29 | 18:09 |
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| amrith | anyone have anything to add on the subject of momentum, reviews, | 18:10 |
| amrith | Ok, moving along | 18:10 |
| amrith | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/trove-specs+NOT+label:Workflow%253C%253D-1++NOT+label:Verified%253C%253D-1%252Cjenkins+NOT+label:Code-Review%253C%253D-2+status:open++%28project:openstack/trove+OR+project:openstack/trove-integration+OR+project:openstack/trove-specs+OR+project:openstack/python-troveclient+OR+project:openstack/trove-dashboard%29 | 18:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/trove-specs+NOT+label:Workflow%253C%253D-1++NOT+label:Verified%253C%253D-1%252Cjenkins+NOT+label:Code-Review%253C%253D-2+status:open++%28project:openstack/trove+OR+project:openstack/trove-integration+OR+project:openstack/trove-specs+OR+project:openstack/python-troveclient+OR+project:openstack/trove-dashboard%29 (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:10 | |
| amrith | #topic Announcements | 18:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:10 | |
| * amrith damn cut and paste gone wild | 18:11 | |
| amrith | reminder: we have a spec proposal deadline in a couple of weeks | 18:11 |
| amrith | R-16 | 18:11 |
| amrith | June 13-17 | 18:11 |
| amrith | does anyone else have specs that you'll be submitting (not yet up for review) | 18:11 |
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| amrith | OK, next announcement | 18:12 |
| amrith | Please take a look at the email about mentoring that hit the ML earlier today | 18:13 |
| amrith | http://markmail.org/message/nec7ez6ocgjcjxxf | 18:13 |
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| amrith | That's all I had for announcements | 18:13 |
| amrith | anyone else have anything? | 18:13 |
| amrith | ok, moving along | 18:15 |
| amrith | there's nothing else on the agenda | 18:15 |
| amrith | so let's move to | 18:15 |
| amrith | #topic open discussion | 18:15 |
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| amrith | stewie925, you had a question earlier | 18:15 |
| amrith | was it about rebase? | 18:15 |
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| stewie925 | hi amrith - yes it is about rebase - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312611/5 | 18:16 |
| stewie925 | patch 4 was a rebase showing dependencies to another gerrit | 18:16 |
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| stewie925 | but when I submitted patch 5, it seems the dependency is gone | 18:17 |
| amrith | stewie925, what do you mean by 'dependency to another gerrit'? | 18:17 |
| amrith | I'm not seeing any dependencies called out in the commit message | 18:18 |
| stewie925 | if you look at patch 4 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312611/4 it shows a parent id that points to a code fix in gerrit #308707 | 18:19 |
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| amrith | I think that just lists related changes | 18:19 |
| amrith | wait a second, you said parent id | 18:19 |
| stewie925 | yes parent id | 18:20 |
| stewie925 | pmalik helped me with it yesterday | 18:20 |
| amrith | pmalik, yt? | 18:20 |
| pmalik | yes | 18:21 |
| stewie925 | hi pmalik, I have made the mocking changes you suggested for the guest_id | 18:21 |
| pmalik | I think you somehow detached yourself from the parent patch set. :/ | 18:21 |
| amrith | pmalik, is there a need for this change to be dependent on the other? | 18:22 |
| pmalik | We can look at it offline. | 18:22 |
| pmalik | Yes. It need it. | 18:22 |
| pmalik | He needs to mock a config property. | 18:22 |
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| stewie925 | yeah good idea, pmalik, thank you appreciate it | 18:22 |
| amrith | ok, in that case the two of you can chat about it in #openstack-trove | 18:22 |
| stewie925 | thank you amrith | 18:22 |
| amrith | anything else of open discussion | 18:22 |
| SlickNik | Looks like there was a rebase that (maybe) got rid of the dependent change? | 18:22 |
| amrith | ? | 18:22 |
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| SlickNik | Not from me. | 18:23 |
| amrith | cp16net, anything? | 18:23 |
| amrith | peterstac? | 18:23 |
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| amrith | vgnbkr, tellesnobrega, dougshelley66, pmalik anything to add? | 18:23 |
| tellesnobrega | i have the cinder snapshot spec up for review, would be good to get some eyes there, as well as a API change patch, so we can agree on the structure, if you guys can take a look | 18:23 |
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| amrith | tellesnobrega, I have it on my list for today | 18:23 |
| SlickNik | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320512/ | 18:23 |
| tellesnobrega | amrith, awesome | 18:24 |
| pmackinn | seeing some problems from the mysql systemd vendor packages; anyone else been down this path? | 18:24 |
| cp16net | i could bring up when i thought about earlier | 18:24 |
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| amrith | what problem(s) pmackinn | 18:24 |
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| amrith | also, what vendor? | 18:25 |
| pmackinn | mysqld seems to start up again in the prepare before the new conf has been set | 18:25 |
| amrith | I know that I've had no trouble with the percona packages | 18:25 |
| pmackinn | thus writing a new db to /var/lib/mysql | 18:25 |
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| pmackinn | but we've already copied the original to /mnt/volume/data | 18:26 |
| amrith | don't you mount /mnt/volume/data to /var/lib/mysql | 18:26 |
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| pmackinn | that indeed happens | 18:27 |
| cp16net | we copy it first tho | 18:27 |
| cp16net | the database should be stopped at that point | 18:27 |
| pmackinn | but before that mysqld runs again with datadir still at /var/lib/mysql | 18:27 |
| cp16net | but if systemd magically starts it again | 18:28 |
| pmackinn | hilarity ensues | 18:28 |
| amrith | so is restart set in systemd? | 18:28 |
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| cp16net | might need to set a configuration to not auto restart? | 18:28 |
| amrith | i.e. the watchman in systemd potentially treating it as a down mysql? | 18:28 |
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| * amrith is guessing | 18:28 | |
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| cp16net | sounds like it | 18:28 |
| pmackinn | yes but if we've stopped via systemctl it shouldn't restart | 18:29 |
| pmackinn | on its own | 18:29 |
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| amrith | and yet it is? | 18:29 |
| pmackinn | trove is restarting it | 18:29 |
| pmackinn | its in the logs | 18:29 |
| pmackinn | percona btw | 18:30 |
| pmackinn | anywho, will keep digging | 18:30 |
| cp16net | this is before we mount the volume to /var/lib/mysql? | 18:30 |
| cp16net | that shouldnt be the case | 18:30 |
| pmackinn | after but before the tmp conf has come back in with datadir=/var/lib/mysql/data | 18:31 |
| cp16net | oh... | 18:31 |
| cp16net | i c now | 18:31 |
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| amrith | sounds bad, very bad | 18:33 |
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| pmackinn | makes me mad, very mad | 18:33 |
| cp16net | https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/guestagent/datastore/mysql_common/manager.py#L229 | 18:33 |
| amrith | pmackinn, in that case it is a feature | 18:33 |
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| amrith | cp16net, the mount happens earlier https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/guestagent/datastore/mysql_common/manager.py#L218 | 18:34 |
| amrith | and the datadir is reset https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/guestagent/datastore/mysql_common/manager.py#L228 | 18:34 |
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| cp16net | right but thats after the mount happened it restarts | 18:35 |
| cp16net | without the updates configs | 18:35 |
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| cp16net | one way we could "fix" this is in the image set the mysql dir to /var/lib/mysql/data | 18:35 |
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| amrith | but wait, this works ... | 18:36 |
| amrith | we set datadir | 18:36 |
| amrith | that's the important part | 18:36 |
| amrith | before restarting | 18:36 |
| amrith | or I'm missing something | 18:36 |
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| pmackinn | i can assure you that it restarts with the old config | 18:36 |
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| cp16net | oh yeah i see what you mean | 18:37 |
| pmackinn | old == original | 18:37 |
| amrith | like coke | 18:37 |
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| pmackinn | baking /var/lib/mysql/data into the image CAN work but it leaves a mark | 18:38 |
| cp16net | yeah | 18:38 |
| pmackinn | /var/lib/mysql/data/data | 18:38 |
| cp16net | app.set_data_dir(mount_point + '/data') | 18:38 |
| cp16net | shoudl set the dir right before we start it again | 18:39 |
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| cp16net | any logs aroudn that? | 18:39 |
| cp16net | might be helpful | 18:39 |
| pmackinn | you and your logs...jas | 18:39 |
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| cp16net | anyways its something to look into | 18:40 |
| pmackinn | meh, that instance is gone...i'll hit the channel up later | 18:40 |
| * amrith TIMECHECK | 18:40 | |
| cp16net | k | 18:40 |
| amrith | so is this something we can pick up in #openstack-trove | 18:40 |
| amrith | right after we adjourn here? | 18:41 |
| pmackinn | thx all for the input! | 18:41 |
| amrith | does anyone else have any other things for open discussion ... | 18:41 |
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| amrith | #action pmalik and stewie925 to look into the rebase issue | 18:41 |
| cp16net | i could bring up what this lead me back to thinking about | 18:41 |
| amrith | #action amrith pmackinn cp16net to see what this mysql issue is | 18:41 |
| amrith | anything else? | 18:41 |
| cp16net | so in pxc i had some weird issue that i hacked around | 18:42 |
| cp16net | https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/guestagent/datastore/experimental/pxc/service.py#L70 | 18:42 |
| amrith | #action review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320512/ ( tellesnobrega's spec on cinder snapshots ) | 18:42 |
| amrith | go ahead cp16net we have about 18m here before the bot kicks us out | 18:43 |
| tellesnobrega | amrith, this one is not the spec, this is the API structure change | 18:43 |
| amrith | we're done for the meeting it appears. | 18:43 |
| cp16net | since we have never seen this issue with single instances and only in pxc cluster | 18:43 |
| tellesnobrega | amrith, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306620/ this one is the spec | 18:43 |
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| amrith | tellesnobrega, thanks for clarification | 18:43 |
| amrith | yes | 18:43 |
| tellesnobrega | np | 18:43 |
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| cp16net | my theory is maybe we cant set the admin password until the cluster has quarum | 18:44 |
| cp16net | and the sync state is up. | 18:44 |
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| cp16net | wondered if working on maria clustering or others if anyone saw this same issue? | 18:45 |
| pmackinn | cp16net, haven't seen that but sounds plausible | 18:45 |
| cp16net | yeah because writes are not allowed until quarum is reached i believe | 18:46 |
| cp16net | it was an idea i had after talking with pmackinn about his issue | 18:47 |
| cp16net | i thought they might be related but it doesnt seem like it now | 18:47 |
| * pmackinn has pxc working with systemd btw, ugly but working | 18:48 | |
| cp16net | i just wanted to throw that idea out there and see if it sticks | 18:48 |
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| cp16net | thats all i had | 18:48 |
| amrith | ok | 18:48 |
| amrith | let's take our stuff and mosey over to #openstack-trove and continue there | 18:48 |
| amrith | last call ... | 18:48 |
| amrith | anybody have anything for the meeting? | 18:49 |
| amrith | objections to #endmeeting speak now | 18:49 |
| amrith | #endmeeting | 18:49 |
| cp16net | thx amrith | 18:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 25 18:49:47 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-05-25-18.00.html | 18:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-05-25-18.00.txt | 18:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-05-25-18.00.log.html | 18:49 |
| amrith | thx cp16net | 18:49 |
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| johnsom | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 25 20:00:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
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| xgerman | o/ | 20:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
| johnsom | Hi folks | 20:00 |
| fnaval | o/ | 20:00 |
| bana_k | hi | 20:00 |
| sbalukoff | Howdy folks! | 20:00 |
| blogan | hi | 20:00 |
| Frito | hola | 20:00 |
| johnsom | #topic Announcements | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
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| alhu | hey guys | 20:00 |
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| johnsom | I don't have any exciting announcements today. Anyone else? | 20:00 |
| dougwig | o/ | 20:00 |
| Frito | announcement; welcome back Johnsom! ;-) | 20:01 |
| johnsom | Ha, yes, thanks! | 20:01 |
| xgerman | yep, we survived the thunderstorm | 20:01 |
| sbalukoff | Um... not exciting, but I'm back for a while, and should have more time to devote to upstream work, which means I will be re-commencing reviews on stuff. | 20:01 |
| johnsom | Was dougwig that bad that you are excited I have returned? grin | 20:01 |
| sbalukoff | Get ready for a bunch of -1's. | 20:01 |
| johnsom | sbalukoff Excellent! | 20:01 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: who are you again? | 20:01 |
| dougwig | yes, i was, i forgot until 20s before. | 20:01 |
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| TrevorV|Home | \o | 20:02 |
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| johnsom | #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review | 20:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports / bugs needing review (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:02 | |
| TrevorV|Home | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257201/ | 20:02 |
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| johnsom | Ok, what has been going on? I saw some merges and patches | 20:02 |
| xgerman | dougwig likely while boarding a plane ;-) | 20:02 |
| fnaval | #link https://review.openstack.org/305525 | 20:02 |
| fnaval | #link https://review.openstack.org/310326 | 20:02 |
| fnaval | #link https://review.openstack.org/317692 | 20:02 |
| TrevorV|Home | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306084 | 20:02 |
| fnaval | #link https://review.openstack.org/306669 | 20:02 |
| fnaval | #link https://review.openstack.org/308091 | 20:02 |
| fnaval | #link https://review.openstack.org/309635 | 20:03 |
| fnaval | #link https://review.openstack.org/310069 | 20:03 |
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| * Frito braces for the floodgates | 20:03 | |
| blogan | geez | 20:03 |
| fnaval | there's more but those can go frist | 20:03 |
| sbalukoff | Nice! | 20:03 |
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| johnsom | sbalukoff There is a list to start with.... Grin | 20:03 |
| fnaval | =D | 20:03 |
| johnsom | I did get time to review the L7 doc spec. Others please have a look too | 20:03 |
| sbalukoff | Yay! | 20:03 |
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| johnsom | Trying as best I can to live up to my commitment to support our docs work. | 20:04 |
| johnsom | #topic Merging the Cores | 20:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Merging the Cores (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:04 | |
| johnsom | TrevorV you have the floor as I think you added this | 20:04 |
| xgerman | vote? | 20:04 |
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| * xgerman ducks | 20:05 | |
| TrevorV|Home | Yeah, no big deal. | 20:05 |
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| TrevorV|Home | A couple weeks ago we had a conversation about potentially merging the core groups | 20:05 |
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| johnsom | Yep, don't remember the final outcome | 20:05 |
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| sbalukoff | I don't recall seeing anyone against the idea. | 20:05 |
| TrevorV|Home | At the time we didn't really say this was good or bad to do, but lately there has been a drop in reviews from contributors (including myself), and some of our patches have sat idly with one +2 | 20:06 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I almost want to say that dougwig was going to go make it happen | 20:06 |
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| sbalukoff | So... yes? Let's make it happen. | 20:06 |
| johnsom | dougwig comments? | 20:06 |
| TrevorV|Home | If we can merge the core groups, we can sort-of mitigate the lack of +2/+A we've been seeing, with the same 1 week cadence, and hopefully be alright to progress | 20:06 |
| Frito | +1 | 20:06 |
| dougwig | yep, this was me. i need to checkin with our ptl, then i'll make the change. i spaced it. *writes note*. | 20:06 |
| TrevorV|Home | dougwig, all good homie, everyone's plates have been full with something or another lately | 20:07 |
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| sbalukoff | Yep. | 20:07 |
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| johnsom | #action dougwig to contact overlord for core reviewer merge between lbaas and octavia projects | 20:07 |
| a2hill | 0/ | 20:07 |
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| johnsom | #topic Revisiting Status visibility | 20:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Revisiting Status visibility (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:08 | |
| johnsom | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1585250 | 20:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1585250 in neutron "Statuses not shown for non-"loadbalancer" LBaaS objects on CLI" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Elena Ezhova (eezhova) | 20:08 |
| blogan | i added this and the next one | 20:08 |
| johnsom | blogan You have to floor... | 20:08 |
| johnsom | floor/channel/tow ticket | 20:08 |
| TrevorV|Home | all the above | 20:08 |
| blogan | so that bug basically is askign for an easier way to show statuses, they want it on the objects themselves | 20:08 |
| blogan | im explaining in the bug report why pools can't be done that way | 20:08 |
| TrevorV|Home | I certainly would like to see it at LEAST on the resource itself. | 20:09 |
| TrevorV|Home | Maybe not in the list. | 20:09 |
| blogan | but listeners probably could bc i think we have given up on the idea of eventually gonig teh shared listeners route | 20:09 |
| TrevorV|Home | Idk, arguable. | 20:09 |
| blogan | well shareable pools has issues, until at least we switch to octavia's api which allows seeing resource info in scope of a listener/loadbalancer | 20:09 |
| a2hill | would an attached tree on a load balancer response resolve this ask? | 20:10 |
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| blogan | we already have a statuses call | 20:10 |
| johnsom | a2hill hahaha | 20:10 |
| a2hill | yea, but as part of the reponse? | 20:10 |
| blogan | maybe | 20:10 |
| a2hill | is the fundamental issue having to make multiple calls to see the statues? | 20:10 |
| TrevorV|Home | It wouldn't solve it for me | 20:10 |
| blogan | but they only get that if they use single create | 20:10 |
| blogan | once that merges | 20:11 |
| a2hill | hmm | 20:11 |
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| TrevorV|Home | a2hill, for me its more about the status concerning a singular object | 20:11 |
| TrevorV|Home | I'd rather not have to check the whole tree just to see OPstatus of a member | 20:11 |
| blogan | and this particualr case is for creating a pool individually, wouldn't make sense to return back lb info, well i guess we could do something like that but it doesn't feel right either | 20:11 |
| a2hill | well yea, its just thats sorta difficult | 20:11 |
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| TrevorV|Home | Agreed, a2hill | 20:12 |
| a2hill | what about a cut up tree for each resource | 20:12 |
| blogan | well first thing's first, do we ever intend on having shared listeners? | 20:12 |
| johnsom | We are async, so status returned on create calls is "suspect" anyway | 20:12 |
| TrevorV|Home | Or a dictionary of resources, "pool: status" etc | 20:12 |
| a2hill | tree is calculate, but we can parse and return related part of tree as a new status field for each resource | 20:12 |
| TrevorV|Home | johnsom, no no not on create, I mean on "get /pools/id/members/id" | 20:12 |
| sbalukoff | I haven't heard a need for shared listeners. | 20:12 |
| TrevorV|Home | that should give me a op-status | 20:12 |
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| sbalukoff | Or at least, nobody clamoring for them. | 20:12 |
| blogan | but that op status will be different per listener | 20:13 |
| blogan | well it can be different | 20:13 |
| TrevorV|Home | Right | 20:13 |
| johnsom | Status on member is really helpful for end users as well | 20:13 |
| TrevorV|Home | Which means the object could have a list of statuses per different listener. I know we talked about that before and said "no", but I'm still not against it | 20:13 |
| a2hill | and something like that would solve our ui asks too | 20:14 |
| a2hill | or however this is solved would alleviate thier concerns | 20:14 |
| sbalukoff | right. | 20:14 |
| blogan | they're going to have to make antoher GET request on the member to get the status, why is doing a GET on /loadbalancer/{lb_id}/statuses any different? they just have to traverse the tree that returns | 20:15 |
| a2hill | tell that to them | 20:15 |
| johnsom | I do worry about column sprawl in the CLI, but status is fairly useful IMHO | 20:15 |
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| a2hill | but it is additional queries and logic that has to be built | 20:15 |
| TrevorV|Home | blogan, literally the traversal is the issue. | 20:15 |
| a2hill | and in reach's case, thats a scale issue | 20:15 |
| TrevorV|Home | Not that its "problematic" its just "cumbersome" | 20:15 |
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| a2hill | well, TrevorV|Home in some cases it is also problematic | 20:16 |
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| a2hill | scaling status details for thousands of loadbalancers is proving difficult were finding | 20:16 |
| TrevorV|Home | Right, or if an LB has a brazillion listeners, right? | 20:17 |
| a2hill | right now its not a big deal, and were moving forward, but once things fill up its going to get really heavy | 20:17 |
| blogan | well if adding the statuses in the single GET request to a member and/or pool is wanted go for it, the CLI may start to look ugly | 20:17 |
| xgerman | yeah, we don’t have paging | 20:17 |
| sbalukoff | Most load balancers will have 1 or 2 listeners. | 20:17 |
| xgerman | which we should add when we overhaul that | 20:17 |
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| TrevorV|Home | sbalukoff, that's true, but I like to keep in mind the edge cases | 20:18 |
| blogan | nah the problem is our UI team wants to give color coordinated alerts based on status on a page taht shows a list of a customers load balancers | 20:18 |
| sbalukoff | TrevorV|Home: I don't like the regular use case to suffer because of outlandish edge cases. :/ | 20:18 |
| a2hill | blogan: that still translates to additional logic that if isnt done right could cause issues for them | 20:19 |
| a2hill | primarly because of the seperate statuses | 20:19 |
| blogan | so its a separate statuses issue? provisiong_status and operating_status or just that its separate api calls? | 20:19 |
| a2hill | separate api calls | 20:19 |
| johnsom | blogan So what you guys are looking for is a call that gets the status of all of the lbs in a tenant? | 20:19 |
| a2hill | which is why i kinda suggested tagging the related part of tree to the response | 20:20 |
| blogan | okay so basically they want the statuses show in a list of pools, members, lbs, etc | 20:20 |
| TrevorV|Home | sbalukoff, agreed, but with fewer listeners the "ugly" problem is moot. | 20:20 |
| a2hill | someone else reported this bug, im just speaking from our side | 20:20 |
| sbalukoff | TrevorV|Home: Agreed. | 20:20 |
| dougwig | shouldn't the question of showing status on indivudual GET/cli be separate from a batch call for UI speed? | 20:20 |
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| johnsom | dougwig +1 | 20:21 |
| blogan | dougwig: you mean CLI doesn't need to implement it? | 20:21 |
| TrevorV|Home | I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at dougwig | 20:21 |
| dougwig | i would think step 1 would be the basic fix. step 2 would be optimize. imo. | 20:21 |
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| TrevorV|Home | I'd like to get the op-status on the cli "show" for an object | 20:21 |
| sbalukoff | Eh... I'm of the opinion that having a couple extra status fields in the CLI is pretty useful. :) | 20:21 |
| sbalukoff | That might just be me, though. | 20:22 |
| TrevorV|Home | I agree sbalukoff | 20:22 |
| a2hill | sbalukoff: +1 | 20:22 |
| johnsom | Yeah, me too. Status in the show output is good | 20:22 |
| dougwig | sbalukoff: +1 | 20:22 |
| TrevorV|Home | idk about the "list" output, but def the "show" output | 20:22 |
| sbalukoff | Yep! | 20:22 |
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| fnaval | +1 | 20:22 |
| blogan | TrevorV|Home: well the list would probably show what the show shows...thats redudnant | 20:22 |
| TrevorV|Home | To be clear, though, I'm not against the current status tree existing, its totally useful. | 20:22 |
| a2hill | fnaval: plus one'd himself again | 20:23 |
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| a2hill | :P | 20:23 |
| fnaval | lol | 20:23 |
| TrevorV|Home | blogan, that's not true, there are omitted fields in the list compared to the show | 20:23 |
| fnaval | (for visibility) | 20:23 |
| a2hill | lol | 20:23 |
| sbalukoff | Right. | 20:23 |
| Frito | +1 for fnaval so he's not the only one ;-) | 20:24 |
| fnaval | =D | 20:24 |
| johnsom | Alright, I haven't read blogan's novel yet on this bug. Should we all comment on the bug? | 20:24 |
| blogan | okay so should this go into nlbaas api? even though its nto exactly the future | 20:24 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: Yes. | 20:24 |
| johnsom | I think we are coming to agreement on the CLI issue. | 20:24 |
| blogan | well its raising more questions :) | 20:24 |
| johnsom | List status should be a different RFE | 20:24 |
| TrevorV|Home | Commenting on the bug is a good idea, even if we just say "This will be provided in octavia" | 20:24 |
| TrevorV|Home | you know? | 20:24 |
| blogan | not the cli, but the fact that we're okay with it giong into the api | 20:24 |
| dougwig | i'd expect a list lb for the vip to be more important than the status. | 20:25 |
| blogan | dougwig: one call must have all the things in it | 20:25 |
| blogan | we should just make a db dump api call | 20:25 |
| xgerman | in json | 20:25 |
| johnsom | hahaha, careful blogan, it will be next... | 20:25 |
| sbalukoff | Heh! | 20:25 |
| dougwig | blogan: connect your UI to your sql db | 20:25 |
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| dougwig | make any query you want | 20:26 |
| dougwig | :) | 20:26 |
| TrevorV|Home | Alright, so "comment on bug" is the result of the convo? | 20:26 |
| johnsom | So, now, ODBC, JDBC, ...? | 20:26 |
| a2hill | thats actually something theyve considered i think :P | 20:26 |
| a2hill | j/k | 20:26 |
| a2hill | i think | 20:26 |
| johnsom | Yes please. Comment away! | 20:26 |
| blogan | i wouldn't be surprised | 20:26 |
| a2hill | lol | 20:26 |
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| dougwig | rax should just rewrite it all as quarkaas | 20:27 |
| a2hill | lol | 20:27 |
| johnsom | #action Everyone comment on the status/CLI RFE | 20:27 |
| blogan | sounds to me like everyone is okay with putting the statuses in the GET and LIST of resources, not just LB | 20:27 |
| sbalukoff | Haha | 20:27 |
| johnsom | #topic Error Message as LB API Attribute | 20:27 |
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| dougwig | i never said i was ok with LIST. look at nova list... you get id, name, ip. | 20:27 |
| johnsom | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1585266 | 20:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1585266 in neutron "Can't specify an error type on LBaaS objects that fail to provision" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to Brandon Logan (brandon-logan) | 20:27 |
| blogan | dougwig: isn't there a details list? | 20:27 |
| blogan | that nova supports | 20:28 |
| a2hill | blogan: im only in agreement so it gets reach of our back. Otherwise i think a few additional calls are too bad, even at the scale. was just playing devils advocate since i know they wont stop on this one | 20:28 |
| xgerman | still think we need paging but that’s for N-API | 20:28 |
| TrevorV|Home | guys guys guys, topic changed. | 20:28 |
| a2hill | arent* | 20:28 |
| blogan | okay error description, i tagged it as rfe but wantedt o see what yall thought | 20:28 |
| a2hill | i was in middle of typing >< | 20:28 |
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| johnsom | Yeah, sorry, was trying to keep things moving. | 20:28 |
| blogan | i've been reading octavia and nlbaas bug reports today, so thats why i've been bringing these two up | 20:29 |
| TrevorV|Home | I'm not sure what this means. | 20:29 |
| johnsom | Plus I want comments captured for future generations.... | 20:29 |
| TrevorV|Home | We want to include an error response in the "show" or something? | 20:29 |
| TrevorV|Home | I thought that already existed | 20:29 |
| blogan | so v1 had status_descritpion on all the objects and if the object ever ERRORed it'd give reason why, similar to hwo nova will show a stack trace in its show server command if it ERRORs | 20:29 |
| fnaval | http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-compute-v2.1.html#showServer | 20:29 |
| johnsom | I actually had this thought recently. Nova has a "reason" field for the status. This is a decent idea, but can be hard to implement well. | 20:29 |
| blogan | yeah | 20:30 |
| blogan | sounds like there could be some scrubbing of the error message needed | 20:30 |
| a2hill | yea, this would be good to have. would it bubble up nova errors too i assume? | 20:30 |
| TrevorV|Home | Would we worry about this in nlbaas or in octavia or both? | 20:30 |
| blogan | depends on how its implemented | 20:30 |
| blogan | well thats antoher topic, do we just do a hard stop on all nlbaas features or do we do both? | 20:30 |
| sbalukoff | +1 on this being a good thing to have. | 20:31 |
| johnsom | TrevorV|Home Remember we are on a path where nlbaas and octavia become one, so..... | 20:31 |
| TrevorV|Home | johnsom, right, but we're on that path to *not* duplicate work, but this is an nlbaas v2 request, amirite? | 20:31 |
| blogan | it'd carry over to octavia api | 20:31 |
| a2hill | yea, but until we can say thats actively being done, and we have something deployable thats not including nlbaas we kinda need features in both places | 20:31 |
| johnsom | Yeah, so until we are merged, both is the right answer | 20:31 |
| blogan | lbaas api | 20:31 |
| a2hill | sorry.. i type slow.. | 20:31 |
| johnsom | Think of it as motivation to merge.... | 20:32 |
| sbalukoff | +1 to a2hill typing too slow. | 20:32 |
| TrevorV|Home | ha ha ha | 20:32 |
| a2hill | >< | 20:32 |
| a2hill | so.. | 20:32 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: Yep, that it is! | 20:32 |
| TrevorV|Home | Yeah, alright, so I agree it'd be nice | 20:32 |
| TrevorV|Home | It'd help "newbies" understand problems that they're experiencing too | 20:33 |
| dougwig | blogan: ooh, is there? | 20:33 |
| johnsom | Yeah, we get a lot of "It's in error or pending_*" why? questions now | 20:33 |
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| a2hill | the other side of this is logging and alerts ? | 20:33 |
| blogan | dougwig: http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-compute-v2.1.html#listServersDetailed | 20:34 |
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| TrevorV|Home | We need to get better logging across octavia, unless I missed that patch already ha ha | 20:34 |
| dougwig | blogan: so, it's a db dump | 20:34 |
| a2hill | i mean customers logs | 20:34 |
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| johnsom | So, this one with the "Reason". I'm in favor of it. I think it should follow a cleanup of our revert/rollback and be implemented as such. | 20:35 |
| TrevorV|Home | Oh, like logs from haproxy | 20:35 |
| TrevorV|Home | got it | 20:35 |
| a2hill | if they want to see whats going on with things, this may be a bit different, but could probably be coupled with alerting, though i dont know where or if those things are .. things | 20:35 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: +1 | 20:35 |
| blogan | ok, dougwig tell the neutron drivers we approve ;) | 20:35 |
| TrevorV|Home | johnsom, agreed, for octavia. Can that be done in neutron lbaas in a similar fashion though? | 20:35 |
| a2hill | TrevorV|Home: not just haproxy | 20:35 |
| johnsom | Customer logs from haproxy, that is a WHOLE different issue... | 20:35 |
| * TrevorV|Home is unfamiliar with neutron lbaas's rollback system | 20:35 | |
| a2hill | not what i was getting at i guess | 20:35 |
| xgerman | neutron labs would need to get error info from the driver | 20:36 |
| johnsom | Well, I think in n-lbaas we implement the field/db. Leave it up to the driver to populate. | 20:36 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:36 |
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| johnsom | Wouldn't it mostly be a pass through from the driver? | 20:36 |
| dougwig | our current rollback system involves singing, "rollback rollback, rawhide!" to yourself, and... that's it. | 20:36 |
| blogan | yeah driver can populate it or give it to the plugin to populate | 20:36 |
| xgerman | or repopulate with <vendor> sucks | 20:36 |
| TrevorV|Home | Unless the request rolls back before hitting the driver | 20:36 |
| TrevorV|Home | johnsom, ^^ | 20:36 |
| fnaval | lol | 20:36 |
| johnsom | TrevorV|Home well, then it's neutron's problem (just kidding) | 20:37 |
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| blogan | if the requests rolls back the lb would not be in ERROR state i don't tink | 20:37 |
| blogan | before it gets to teh driver i mean | 20:37 |
| TrevorV|Home | That's a fair point... | 20:38 |
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| sbalukoff | Whatever we do, we need to make sure the user cries. | 20:38 |
| sbalukoff | Just sayin'. | 20:38 |
| johnsom | I should be perfectly reasonable for n-lbaas exception handling (yes, I'm laughing too) to populate that field if it makes sense. I.e. driver not found or something | 20:38 |
| blogan | continues to cry | 20:38 |
| sbalukoff | Load balancing is serious business. | 20:38 |
| xgerman | no kidding | 20:38 |
| johnsom | I won't comment on that in light of recent events in my life... | 20:39 |
| sbalukoff | Seriously though-- let's not get too much into the weeds on this right now, eh. I'm hearing general agreement that having error messages that are more helpful than a Microsoft error code is a good thing. | 20:39 |
| johnsom | Ok, so I'm thinking this is a "Please comment" as well. Generally a good idea | 20:39 |
| sbalukoff | Yep! | 20:39 |
| blogan | now, who's going to do the work? | 20:40 |
| johnsom | Ahh, I was totally firing up the uuid generator for the error codes.... | 20:40 |
| sbalukoff | Haha! | 20:40 |
| xgerman | blogan, didn’t you step forward? | 20:40 |
| johnsom | #action Everyone comment on the "error message" in API RFE | 20:40 |
| sbalukoff | Right. | 20:40 |
| * johnsom steps to the right | 20:40 | |
| * xgerman steps far back | 20:41 | |
| * blogan leaps into the back | 20:41 | |
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| * fnaval +1's himself. | 20:41 | |
| Frito | lmao | 20:41 |
| johnsom | We can say it's a good thing and get to it when we can.... | 20:41 |
| sbalukoff | Huzzah! | 20:41 |
| Frito | well played sir | 20:41 |
| xgerman | johnsom +! | 20:41 |
| blogan | be sure to comment on the statuses one | 20:42 |
| johnsom | #topic Neutron-LBaaS Tempest Plugin | 20:42 |
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| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321087 | 20:42 |
| fnaval | ok, so i got this ask from the neutron folks - they want to run the neutron-lbaas tests but we dont have a tempest plugin | 20:42 |
| johnsom | Ok, who added this and can talk to it? | 20:42 |
| fnaval | me | 20:42 |
| fnaval | i haven't done a plugin before so comments is appreciated | 20:42 |
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| fnaval | i recall that madhu had done a few for the other projects - was trying to ping him but he hasn't been online of late | 20:43 |
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| johnsom | Aren't these plugins typically in a separate repo? | 20:43 |
| blogan | looks like assaf is asking for nonvoting jobs for these first to verify they work as intended and then switch them to voting once validated | 20:43 |
| fnaval | is there a reason why we don't have a tempest plugin hooked up to our gates? could it be because it can't selectively choose tests to run? | 20:44 |
| blogan | fnaval: tempest will run these tests? | 20:44 |
| johnsom | Well, the whole tempest thing has been evolving/changing for the last year, so.... | 20:44 |
| blogan | if so, i think their runner can run tests based on a pattern option | 20:44 |
| fnaval | the gate jobs will run those tests with the plugin, but some changes need to happen with post_test_hook.sh or some scripts like that | 20:45 |
| blogan | yeah but is it tempest running them, i think so | 20:45 |
| fnaval | ok, well - if anyone has any comments or experience on setting up a gate job with TempestPlugin, please make some comments or reach out to me later. | 20:45 |
| blogan | fnaval: you're best bet is probably amuller in neutron | 20:45 |
| blogan | your | 20:45 |
| fnaval | I wanted to see whether it would be a good idea for the rest of the team; if so, then i'll continue working on it | 20:46 |
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| fnaval | blogan: cool - i'll continue speaking with him | 20:46 |
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| fnaval | he directed me to this PR: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304324/ | 20:46 |
| johnsom | fnaval Thanks for following up on this! | 20:46 |
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| fnaval | which I'll probably use as a template | 20:46 |
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| fnaval | thanks for the floor johnsom! =) | 20:47 |
| fnaval | blogan: i'll also look into regex name test matching | 20:47 |
| johnsom | fnaval If you want me to get madhu online for some questions, I can do that. He just won't be working on this much in the near term. | 20:47 |
| fnaval | yes that would be great too johnsom! i'll send an email as well | 20:48 |
| johnsom | Ok, sounds good | 20:48 |
| fnaval | just want to pick his brain on it | 20:48 |
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| johnsom | #topic Open Discussion | 20:48 |
| fnaval | thanks | 20:48 |
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| xgerman | I have been told https://github.com/rackspace/gophercloud is getting LBaaS V2 support - so look and comment... | 20:48 |
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| sbalukoff | Huh! | 20:49 |
| johnsom | Hmmm, not sure I would want to have a project called Gopher in Texas.... | 20:49 |
| xgerman | yeah, RAX what’s up with the naming? | 20:50 |
| blogan | isn't it go based? | 20:50 |
| fnaval | Go as in go language | 20:50 |
| sbalukoff | Running short on 'go' puns. | 20:50 |
| fnaval | pher as in uh | 20:50 |
| fnaval | gopher | 20:50 |
| blogan | phertastic | 20:50 |
| sbalukoff | Haha! | 20:50 |
| fnaval | yep blogan knows | 20:50 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I know. Just seems like it could be dangerous given the guns and all | 20:50 |
| blogan | guns are no more dangerous to gophers than lawn mowers | 20:51 |
| fnaval | oh yea guns - they like guns here | 20:51 |
| dougwig | gun thread! | 20:51 |
| fnaval | as long as you don't bring them in or sell them in the parking lot | 20:52 |
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| xgerman | the feedback I got from the team doing that is that our docs suck are not up-to-date | 20:52 |
| xgerman | and OpenStack in general doesn’t follow a common API designe | 20:52 |
| johnsom | xgerman You are welcome to pick a docs bug and help fix that! | 20:52 |
| johnsom | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bugs?field.tag=docs | 20:53 |
| xgerman | well, I think that feedback was expected | 20:53 |
| sbalukoff | Yes! | 20:53 |
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| johnsom | Any other open discussion items today? | 20:54 |
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| alhu | guys, can i steal 2 mins for a question? | 20:54 |
| fnaval | reminder: please look at my commits | 20:54 |
| sbalukoff | Yep! | 20:54 |
| xgerman | aloha you have 6 | 20:54 |
| xgerman | alhu | 20:54 |
| johnsom | alhu, please, this is the time to ask! | 20:54 |
| alhu | o-wk can be deployed with multiple instances, what about o-hm and o-hk? | 20:55 |
| xgerman | they can be deployed as well | 20:55 |
| xgerman | in multiple instances as long as they share the same db | 20:55 |
| johnsom | Yes, all of them should be deployable in multiple instances | 20:55 |
| alhu | from the impl, looks like it accesses db directly, will that cause any race conditions? | 20:55 |
| xgerman | DB’s lock | 20:55 |
| xgerman | so don’t think so | 20:56 |
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| alhu | those are queries, how the db gets locked? | 20:56 |
| johnsom | The sqlalchemy transactions should be handling that | 20:56 |
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| bharathm | Its transactional .. so should be fine | 20:56 |
| xgerman | alhu or are you wondering what happens when one message overtakes the other? | 20:57 |
| alhu | what if it's deployed on multiple hosts? | 20:57 |
| alhu | sqlalchemy can handle that as well? | 20:57 |
| xgerman | yeah, DB side is fine | 20:57 |
| alhu | yes, xgerman | 20:57 |
| johnsom | Yes, the transactions are held in the database | 20:57 |
| alhu | i c, thanks guys | 20:58 |
| bana_k | but if we are running 2 instances of say h-hk | 20:58 |
| xgerman | alhu we send enough messages that it should get back to normal pretty quick | 20:58 |
| bana_k | who does both mange to keep the spare count ? | 20:58 |
| bana_k | how* | 20:58 |
| blogan | i'm not too confident in a multi write galera cluster | 20:58 |
| bana_k | manage* | 20:58 |
| xgerman | hk does | 20:58 |
| xgerman | and that’s all in DB | 20:59 |
| bana_k | yea what if we have 2 instances of them running | 20:59 |
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| xgerman | we have at least 3 running and haven’t seen issues | 20:59 |
| Frito | not sure if anyone has the room after us but were basically at time. | 20:59 |
| bharathm | bana_k 's question si valid | 20:59 |
| bharathm | We haven't seen any issues in our multi-node env | 21:00 |
| bharathm | but it can cause issues | 21:00 |
| johnsom | bana_k yes. we use a transaction when setting the "busy" flag. As for spares, they are also allocated inside a transaction | 21:00 |
| alhu | let's move discussion to lbaas then | 21:00 |
| johnsom | We can continue in the lbaas channel | 21:00 |
| johnsom | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 25 21:00:34 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-05-25-20.00.html | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-05-25-20.00.txt | 21:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-05-25-20.00.log.html | 21:00 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks folks! | 21:00 |
| fnaval | ty | 21:00 |
| Frito | o\ | 21:00 |
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| TrevorV|Home | o/ | 21:01 |
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