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lbeliveau#startmeeting sriov13:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep 20 13:00:41 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is lbeliveau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
lbeliveauhi13:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sriov)"13:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'sriov'13:00
wznoinskhi13:00
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lbeliveaumoshele asked me to chair the meeting13:00
vladikro/13:01
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lbeliveau#topic Improving SR-IOV/PCI Passthrough CI13:01
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lbeliveauwznoinsk anything new on your side regarding CI ?13:02
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wznoinsklbeliveau: starting to play with sriov on baremetal (ironic controller) this week, not much to be honest13:03
prateeki am not able to send messages to this group, not sure why13:03
prateekok i am able to now13:03
lbeliveauok13:04
lbeliveauanybody else has something to say about CI ?13:04
wznoinsklbeliveau: out of curiosity did anyone try to pass a PF to a VM and run openstack in it maybe13:04
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wznoinskopenstack + sriov13:04
lbeliveaunot me :)13:04
lbeliveauyou are trying to do nested vms ?13:05
wznoinskideally, to get more density, we want to run CI in VMs, we have enough hardware13:05
wznoinskmeaning, enough SRIOV NICs13:05
lbeliveaumaybe lennyb and moshele can help13:06
vladikrwznoinsk, I did try it with an intel card, but didn't manage to start VFs13:06
wznoinskI know they were trying to do it in containers but I guess the 'shared' pieces between containers didn't work well, lennyb ?13:06
vladikrwznoinsk, people normally pass PFs to instances to get the full amount of queues and a better security13:07
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wznoinskthen I'll start slow, on baremetal straight, since we have a nice ironic cluster13:07
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lbeliveausounds good13:07
lbeliveauI have made some progress on migration tempest tests, QA PTL had a look at it, he asked for an API test first which I did13:07
lbeliveauneed them to review13:08
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lbeliveauanything else on CI ?13:08
lbeliveau#topic Documentation13:09
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lbeliveauI have nothing wrt documentation13:09
lbeliveaulet's move on :)13:09
lbeliveau#topic Patches for Subteam Review13:09
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lbeliveauany patches that need reviews ?13:10
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lbeliveauthere is one patch that needs review, last one in order to have revert migration functionnality working13:11
snikitinI just wanted to ask about this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339765/13:11
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lbeliveaujaypipes: if you have this message, would be great if you can have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349060/13:11
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lbeliveaureviews still opened https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sriov_meeting_agenda13:12
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lbeliveauso if you have new ones, please put them there13:12
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lbeliveau#topic Specs for Review13:13
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lbeliveauThere was some traffic last week on reviewing BP13:13
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lbeliveauanybody has anything to discuss regarding BP ?13:13
lbeliveau#Open discussion13:14
lbeliveauok this is too quiet :)13:15
lbeliveauanything else we need to discuss ?13:15
lbeliveau#endmeeting13:15
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openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-09-20-13.00.html13:16
lbeliveauthanks guys13:16
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-09-20-13.00.txt13:16
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-09-20-13.00.log.html13:16
mriedemspec reviews are probably going to be quiet for awhile13:16
mriedemas we wrap up newton13:16
lbeliveaumriedem: yeah, this is what I taught13:16
lbeliveaugood thing is that there were good discussions around 2-3 BP last week13:17
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EmilienMbonjour /me getting ready13:59
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EmilienM#startmeeting tripleo13:59
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep 20 13:59:58 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:59
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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EmilienM#topic rollcall14:00
jtomaseko/14:00
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d0ugal\o/14:00
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marios\o14:00
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skramajahello14:00
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EmilienMhello tripleoers14:00
beagleso/14:00
ccamachohey hey!14:00
slaglehi14:00
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EmilienMhola! (getting used to Barcelona)14:01
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EmilienM#topic agenda14:01
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EmilienM* one off agenda items14:01
mandrehi14:01
EmilienM* bugs14:01
jristo/14:01
EmilienM* Projects releases or stable backports14:01
EmilienM* CI14:01
EmilienM* Specs14:01
EmilienM* open discussion14:01
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EmilienM#topic one off agenda items14:02
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EmilienM#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-meeting-items14:02
EmilienMso we have more items in the list? ^14:02
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EmilienMI would like to talk a bit about Summit14:02
EmilienM#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-tripleo14:02
bandinio/14:02
EmilienMbnemec: you have some topics in "Other" maybe you want to create a session for them?14:03
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EmilienMotherwise we have 7 sessions (with one that is really small and probably shared with PuppetOpenStack group, about puppet validation)14:04
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mariosEmilienM: o/ i updated a bit the upgrades section - added some notes (didn't like the word 'stalled' ) - am happy to lead but i know others were involved in all the early work. i think shardy may have been interested esp for the 'invoke the playbooks via heat'14:04
EmilienMso 6 sessions using tripleo slots14:04
EmilienMmarios: good, I'll let you lead this session please14:04
mariosEmilienM: sure14:04
trownI think some of the OPNFV concerns would be solved by having externally consumable CI produced by TripleO, so maybe they could be part of the CI session14:05
EmilienMtrown: ++14:05
rhalliseyhi14:05
trownsome of them are more about plugability of overcloud deploy itself, which would go elsewhere14:05
EmilienMfor all sessions, I would like people to prepare the topics: blueprints, specs when needed, an etherpad, a list of questions to solve, etc14:05
weshayo/14:05
EmilienMwe're run out of time like usual, so let's be efficient14:05
shardyOne thing I'd like to discuss is the future of instack-virt-setup vs tripleo-quickstart vs ...14:06
shardythanks to the mail from mwhahaha we have a fresh perspective on that14:06
trownshardy: in a summit session?14:06
shardyperhaps we can combine it with the growing the team one14:06
EmilienMshardy: I see it fits well in 4. CI - current status and roadmap, isn't ?14:06
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shardyas it's partly an onboarding new user issue14:06
jcoufalEmilienM: when is the deadline for sessions proposal?14:06
trownshardy: ya I think that would go good in new user experience14:06
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EmilienMshardy: indeed, it also fits here14:06
shardytrown: Yes, since it seems like we've failed to fully switch over to it, summit seems like a good time to get that discussion restarted?14:07
EmilienMjcoufal: there is no official deadline, but asap is best so we can organize things14:07
trownshardy: sure14:07
jcoufalsure, I just wanted to know if we set some date and I missed it :)14:07
jcoufalthanks14:07
trownI will be there :)14:07
EmilienMshardy, jcoufal: I created a new session "8. Features that we want in Ocata"14:08
jcoufalEmilienM: ++14:08
EmilienMlet me know if it's incorrect14:08
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slagleEmilienM: maybe we could also have a working session on general ocata planning14:08
shardyEmilienM: ack, sounds good, but if we're going to discuss ocata roadmap planning, it should probably be one of the final sessions14:09
EmilienMslagle: yes, I wrote it in 8.14:09
slagleEmilienM: where we file and prioritize all blueprints (even if they are just placeholders)14:09
slagleok, i'll check it14:09
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EmilienMOcata planning, better name indeed :)14:09
EmilienMyes, at the very end14:09
slaglecool14:09
shardywe could then sync all the priority items into lauchpad (even if there are specs pending, we can mark them as discussion)14:09
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EmilienMjcoufal: don't miss this one ;-)14:10
slagleyea sounds good, and take into consideration all the other things we want to do (ci, onbarding improvements, docs)14:10
shardy++14:10
slagleso that we're confident we'll be able to commit to do what we say we will do14:10
shardyone thing I think we (I) did wrong this cycle is we had a lot of very large blueprints14:10
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EmilienMyes14:10
shardyit'd be good to capture the large themes in launchpad at or very soon after summit14:10
lennybwznoinsk, there is a post #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/guides/devstack-with-nested-kvm.html but we did not try it14:10
shardythen folks can go away an decompse them into smaller tasks we can track more easily14:11
EmilienMslagle, shardy: non features can also be tracked in launchpad14:11
EmilienMeg: "create a CI job to achieve XX"14:11
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trownwell if CI is meant to be used by others, "create a CI job" is a feature :)14:11
EmilienMright14:11
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slaglethey could, but on that note...tripleo-ci is actually an infra project14:12
slaglein projects.yaml14:12
slagleso officialy...it uses storyboard14:12
EmilienMok, we'll use storyboard to track the work14:12
shardyI think the mistral API tracking ended up being a good example of how we should do it (one umbrella BP with lots of dependent ones)14:12
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slagleEmilienM: there was some discussion last week about moving it over to the tripleo project14:12
shardyvs custom roles and composable services which ended up giant mega-blueprints ;)14:12
slagleso either way, i guess14:12
slaglewe need to decide14:12
shardyI don't really care what tool we use, but fwiw I'm -1 on using more than 114:13
EmilienMslagle: moving what? sorry14:13
EmilienMstoryboard?14:13
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slagleEmilienM: moving tripleo-ci from infra to tripleo in projects.yaml14:13
EmilienMI'm ok with either tool, just pick one14:13
trownit does not make much since under infra really14:14
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EmilienMslagle: ok, let's catch-up later in CI topic maybe14:14
EmilienMdo we have anything else about Summit?14:14
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dprinceI think we could slide on letting tripleo-ci live in infra but use a separate tool to manage tracking14:14
EmilienMso there is no deadline about submiting sessions officially, but do it asap, so we can work on the planning next week14:14
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EmilienMalso we need volunteers to drive sessions ;-)14:15
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EmilienMok, let's move to next topic14:16
EmilienM#topic Projects releases or stable backports14:16
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EmilienMso we released tripleo RC1 yesterday14:16
d0ugalEmilienM: I think you missed a one off item14:16
EmilienMd0ugal: damn14:16
EmilienMit was not there a few min ago sorry14:17
bandinisorry, I added that one slightly on the late side14:17
d0ugalno worries, I didn't add it :)14:17
EmilienM#undo14:17
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EmilienMbandini: go ahead14:17
d0ugalI can probably answer it however, at least to an extent.14:17
EmilienMd0ugal: shoot14:18
bandiniyeah I am a bit stuck on upgrades due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1622683 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/162069614:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1622683 in tripleo "Updating plans breaks deployment" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Dougal Matthews (d0ugal)14:18
d0ugalThis patch just landed in the last hour and should hopefully resolve the problems: https://review.openstack.org/37102714:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1620696 in tripleo "M/N upgrades UPDATE_FAILED .enabled_services.list_join: Incorrect arguments to "list_join" should be: "list_join" : [ " ", [ "str1", "str2"]]" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to mbu (mat-bultel)14:18
d0ugalbut we don't realy have coverage of this in CI which is a problem.14:18
EmilienMI haven't seen much progress on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370069/14:19
EmilienMmatbu: ^14:19
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bandinid0ugal: ok is that the only patch I need to apply?14:19
d0ugalSo, for people that don't know, this is related to an issue with updating the plan in mistral. You deploy, change your templates somehow and then deploy again with the CLI. There have been some issues. We think we have gotten the last one.14:19
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d0ugalbandini: Probably not, at this point I am not totally sure. it depends what you are applying to I think :/14:19
shardybandini: you also need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/373220/ if you use relative paths14:20
jristvery nice d0ugal14:20
EmilienMmatbu: any chance to see why CI is failing on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370069/ ?14:20
shardythat throws a very similar error, but the fix is different14:20
d0ugaloh yeah, forgot about that one14:20
bandinid0ugal: I see, mind if I ping you later with the exact upgrade steps I am taking and then you can tip me in the right direction?14:20
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d0ugalbandini: sure, ping away :)14:20
matbuEmilienM: i'll check, the review fix the regression14:20
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EmilienMmatbu: the review doesn't pass CI14:21
bandinishardy: yeah I saw that one, am using only absolute paths, so it should not matter right?14:21
bandinid0ugal: thanks ;)14:21
EmilienMmatbu: the bug looks quite urgent, please have a look when you can14:21
shardybandini: Yeah, you only need it for relative paths14:21
matbuack i have tested the change , i will check why the CI failed14:21
d0ugaljrist: but you still don't want to do this in the UI yet :)14:21
EmilienMd0ugal, bandini: we good with off items?14:22
bandiniEmilienM: ack, thanks14:22
d0ugalEmilienM: yup14:22
EmilienM#topic Projects releases or stable backports14:22
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EmilienMso, like I said :-)14:22
EmilienMwe release RC114:22
EmilienMand I'll like to thank people involved on CI debug on Friday14:22
EmilienMthx for your time, and all efforts to fix bugs so quickly14:22
d0ugal+10014:22
EmilienMthat said, we now have RC2 to finish14:23
EmilienMfor those who don't know what to do, we have  plenty of bugs https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/newton-rc214:23
EmilienMmost of them are tracked and WIP14:23
mariosEmilienM: are we going to branch now? so for rc2 things need to go to master && stable/newton? or not yet?14:23
EmilienMwe need to cut RC2 by end of next week14:23
mariosEmilienM: i mean things that didn't already cut stable/newton like tht14:23
shardyWe decided to wait and branch for RC214:23
shardymarios: ^^14:24
EmilienMand we'll branch stable/newton when RC2 is out14:24
shardyto reduce the backport pain14:24
mariosshardy: EmilienM ack thanks14:24
EmilienMEXCEPT: tripleoclient14:24
jristd0ugal: haha14:24
jristd0ugal: noted14:24
EmilienMI'll repeat AGAIN sorry :)14:24
EmilienMplease backport tripleoclient to stable/newton14:24
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d0ugalThanks to jpich for doing lots of backports today14:24
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EmilienMfor bug fixes14:25
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EmilienMjpich++ excellent, thanks14:25
jpich:)14:25
EmilienMdo we have any question about release management?14:25
EmilienMwe have 10 days to close as much RC2 bugs as we can14:25
EmilienMmarios: where are we with manila?14:25
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mariosEmilienM: so we landed the main netapp stuff14:26
mariosEmilienM: but there is still cephfs backend to land14:27
EmilienMmarios: can you tag them tripleo/rc2 ?14:27
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EmilienMin gerrit14:27
mariosEmilienM: erno is leading that stuff (i am assisting for the cephfs ... ) tbarron is testing it14:27
mariosEmilienM: yeah is tagged14:27
EmilienMhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:tripleo/rc214:27
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EmilienMI forgot to say, if people want to track RC2 work, please use this gerrit topic: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:tripleo/rc214:28
EmilienM(i'll add my patches in the topic to simplify reviews)14:28
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EmilienMmarios: thanks14:28
EmilienMany question / feedback about release management?14:28
EmilienM#topic bugs14:29
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EmilienMdo we have any outstanding bug this week that is not tracked in RC2 or WIP?14:29
shardyEmilienM: I had some feedback re the usability of custom roles from mcornea14:29
EmilienMI see one, that is not assigned: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/162472714:29
openstackLaunchpad bug 1624727 in tripleo "Could not fetch contents for file:///home/stack/tripleo-heat-templates/puppet/post.yaml" [Critical,Triaged]14:29
EmilienMshardy: how is it?14:30
shardyI'm planning to see how hard it is to fix, and raise a bug with details14:30
shardyso we can decide if we land it for RC2 or defer14:30
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sshnaidmI didn't submit a bug yet, just saw it - heat fails in HA jobs because lack of memory, FYI14:30
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shardyEmilienM: basically you have to copy some templates and make manual adjustments to resource_registry mappings to build custom roles14:30
jtomasekEmilienM: I think we'll need to figure out how to deal with heat-validate failing in current tripleo-heat-templates master so GUI is not able to retrieve parameters. It is probably due to the fact that some of the parameters don't have default value specified after recent changes14:30
bandiniEmilienM: 1624727 might be a duplicate of 162268314:31
shardyit may be quite easy to improve that, but fully fixing it will probably have to wait until ocata14:31
EmilienMbandini: please report it in launchpad, as marking it as dup14:31
jtomasekshardy: ^^^14:31
bandiniEmilienM: I am not 100% sure yet, hopefully I will be able to confirm it today14:31
EmilienMshardy: is it something we want to backport?14:31
matbubandini: i'm hitting this issue too14:31
EmilienMbandini: ack14:31
bandinimatbu: yeah there are a few people hitting it apparently14:32
shardyEmilienM: probably not, which is why I'm mentioning it now14:32
matbubandini: good to see that you've created a bz :)14:32
bandinimatbu: I am a diligent boy ;)14:32
matbuheh14:32
EmilienMshardy: ok, it might be something we want to document14:32
shardyjtomasek: ack, I thought we agreed the workaround was to pass some dummy default values for validation?14:33
EmilienMshardy: do you have a launchpad handy?14:33
mariosbandini: which issue... i just hit an issue for 9..10 upgrade i didn't see before ( Engine went down during resource CREATE )14:33
shardyEmilienM: Not yet, I'll raise one today14:33
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shardyEmilienM: basically I started documenting it and realized there were some usability issues14:33
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jtomasekshardy: could be, we'll have to figure out what parameters those are and how to provide dummy defaults. I'll catch you later about it14:34
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bandinimarios: I can't even get to step1 of the upgrade (major-upgrade-pacemaker-init step) atm14:34
mariosbandini: nm... i think sshnaidm issue *might* be related (memory issues? is it heat engine goes down ?)14:34
shardyjtomasek: ack - fyi ramishra was planning to look into the heat fix, but obviously that's likely to be ocata now14:34
jtomasekshardy: cool!14:34
bandinimarios: I am sort of collecting the issues I stumble upon here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-mitaka-newton-upgrades14:35
shardyjtomasek: tbh for newton, I think we'll have to just hard-code a dummy environment14:35
EmilienMshardy: ok thanks14:35
jrist:(14:35
EmilienMdo we have other outstanding bugs this week?14:35
shardyit's not great, but it should get the initial UI deployment flow working14:35
jtomasekshardy: ack. I've added it on the list for summit GUI session14:35
mariosbandini: ack thanks looking... matbu is working upstream upgrades so he may be best person to start with those14:36
EmilienMplease target new bugs to https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/newton-rc2 if you think they can and need to be fixed before end of next week14:36
EmilienMotherwise, please defer it to ocata-114:36
shardyjrist: I don't see what else we can do - the heat fix isn't ready, perhaps we can remove the workaround if that proves to be something we can backport14:36
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shardyother ideas welcome ;)14:36
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jristbelieve me, you're more educated on this than I14:37
jristso if you think that's most of what we can do14:37
jristthen that's probably it14:37
EmilienManything else about bugs?14:39
EmilienMok next topic14:40
EmilienM#topic CI14:40
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EmilienMslagle: so I missed that but can you remind us the storyboard thing about tripleo-ci?14:40
sshnaidmEmilienM, it would be difficult to separate tripleo issues from tripleo-ci, so that one of them shouldbe tracked in storyboard, some of them in LP14:41
matburegarding the CI, i'm still fighting ith the upgrade (full) jobs14:41
slagleEmilienM: since tripleo-ci is part of the infra project, the tracker is storyboard14:42
matbusshnaidm: help me to debug, we decide to try to switch this job to ovb .. if no objection, which seems to be more stable than multinode14:42
slagleEmilienM: last week, some of the infra folks were suggesting to move tripleo-ci under the tripleo project14:42
slaglewhich sounds reasonable to me14:42
derekhEmilienM: in governance tripleo-ci is listed as part of the infrastructure group http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/projects.yaml#n222614:42
slagleif we did that, the tracker would be launchpad14:42
sshnaidmmatbu, sure14:43
EmilienMmatbu: no objection from me. Maybe ask to derekh and bnemec14:43
EmilienMslagle, derekh: it sounds good to me too14:43
bnemec+114:43
EmilienMwe're very familiar with launchpad now14:43
shardy+114:43
EmilienMand everyone seems to use it14:43
EmilienMso let's keep things simple14:43
bnemecIt's weird for random infra people to have +2 on one of our repos.14:43
ccamachoEmilienM quick silly question, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/373131/ its for adding correctly delorean-deps depending on the version to be deployed, then why CI does not fail, but local deployments have issues?  (OC images are cached from oooq?)14:43
shardyYeah, launchpad is far from perfect, but it works well enough, and everyone is familiar with it14:44
EmilienMgood14:44
slagleEmilienM: ok, i'll propose a patch to governance14:44
EmilienM#action move tripleo-ci under tripleo and use launchpad14:44
EmilienMslagle: ++14:44
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derekhRE. moving the upgrades job to OVB, we might want to sort out our job limits first14:45
derekhwe currently limited to 40 simultanious jobs (don't know why)14:45
derekhadding another ovb job will make queues longer14:45
EmilienMderekh: right14:46
EmilienMmaybe keep the upgrade job in experimental pipeline14:46
EmilienMso matbu and sshnaidm can run it at demand until it works14:46
derekhEmilienM: ack14:46
EmilienMand then when stabilized, run it in periodic pipeline to save resources14:46
EmilienM(it's a proposal)14:46
slaglederekh: the limit is there because instances spawned by nodepool werent getting floating ip's when we had the limit higher14:46
slaglei havent been able to figure out why that is the case14:47
bnemecWeird, I thought we dropped it to 50.14:47
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jistrEmilienM: sounds like a good start IMO, would be good to also keep the option to run it on a patch on-demand via the experimental pipeline14:47
bnemecI think infra deployed some fixes in nodepool that might be helping with the fip problem.14:47
jistrEmilienM: i mean after we have it periodic14:47
EmilienMjistr: yep, excellent idea14:48
bnemecAnd since rh1 isn't taking 12 minutes to deploy stacks anymore we could probably try upping the limit again.14:48
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EmilienMsshnaidm, matbu: you ok? ^14:48
derekhbnemec: slagle ahh, I hadn't realised we dropped it at all in the config, I just thought it wasn't getting up too 75 and we didn't know why14:48
derekhanyways doesn't matter, keeping it experimental should be fine14:49
EmilienMok14:50
matbuack14:50
EmilienM#action move upgrade jobs to ovb and use experimental pipeline until it's stabilized then periodic + experimental14:50
EmilienMmatbu: you takes actions on it? ^14:50
matbuEmilienM: yep14:50
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EmilienMgood14:50
EmilienMlet's move in14:50
EmilienMmove on even14:51
derekhany thoughts on using persistent test envs? to try and ease the load on the rh1 controller?14:51
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derekhjust throwing it out there, don't need to discuss it now14:51
EmilienMderekh: yes, why not?14:51
sshnaidmderekh, just to have a few ready on demand?14:51
matbuhaa regarding CI, i have a question for you guys14:51
bnemecderekh: I like the idea.  How hard would it be to do?14:51
derekhsshnaidm: we would reuse them several times14:51
matbuis it possible to chain jobs for example : job overcloud ha deploy, then chain an upgrade jobs with the previsous overcloud env ?14:51
derekhbnemec: it shouldn't be crazy hard14:52
dprincederekh: this would more closely match what we did in the old CI setup (non OVB)14:52
dprincederekh: I like it in that regard14:52
derekhbnemec: we change the workers to not destory at then end14:52
dprincetried and tested14:52
derekhit would also make our jobs about 10 minutes faster14:52
EmilienM+114:52
EmilienM#undo14:53
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EmilienM#action matbu to move upgrade jobs to ovb and use experimental pipeline until it's stabilized then periodic + experimental14:53
bnemecThat will mean we have to run in a patched Nova environment.14:53
derekhbnemec: we aleady do14:54
EmilienMwe have 6 min left folks14:54
bnemecYeah, I'm thinking for when we move to rdo cloud.14:54
sshnaidmmatbu, not sure, but maybe post pipeline of zuul14:54
bnemecIt also makes the test envs less dynamic.14:54
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sshnaidmmatbu, let's ask pabelanger when he's here14:54
derekhbnemec: yup, I've asked rdo people about that (patching rdo cloud), lets see what they say14:54
EmilienMsshnaidm: no, tripleo cloud won't support it in zuul post pipeline14:54
matbuk14:55
derekhbnemec: loosing the dynamicability is a bummer alright14:55
sshnaidmEmilienM, matbu  then we can invent something in ovb14:55
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EmilienMsshnaidm: probably14:55
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* bnemec likes dynamicability :-)14:55
EmilienMderekh: can we followup on mailing list maybe?14:56
EmilienMwe have 5 min left14:56
EmilienMand I would like to open the discussion14:56
derekhEmilienM: ack14:56
bnemecWhy would we do that?  What do we need to chain jobs like that for?14:56
bnemecIsn't "deploy HA, then upgrade" just the upgrades job?14:56
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matbubnemec: cause a full upgrade could takes few hours14:56
EmilienMderekh: very interesting topic but time is running out14:56
matbubnemec: then it could save us from timeout14:57
mariosbnemec: no that was just a stack update after the deploy there i think14:57
EmilienMderekh: please keep us posted on ML14:57
mariosbnemec: so a full upgrade is a number of steps14:57
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shardyYeah the original upgrade job was really a stack-update test14:57
derekhEmilienM: will do14:57
sshnaidmbnemec, and more complicated than it14:57
EmilienMmarios: matbu is working on a full upgrade14:57
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EmilienMwe renamed the upgrade job14:57
shardythat was still useful coverage tho14:57
mariosEmilienM: +1 i was answering bnemec abaout theupgrade job14:57
bnemecIf it's too slow to run in the timeout period, then we're not enabling it on every patch.14:57
EmilienMto be "update" and run stack update14:57
EmilienMand now we have 2 jobs:14:57
EmilienMupdate: stack update14:57
bnemecIt's bad enough we have to wait 2 hours for CI results as it is.14:57
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EmilienMand upgrade: actual upgrade (experimental, matbu is doing it)14:57
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bnemecAdding another 2+ hours on top of that is no good.14:58
EmilienMok, sorry for that but no open discussion this week :(14:58
EmilienMno more time for it14:58
matbubnemec: yep , but that the cost of CI upgrade14:58
EmilienM#topic open discussion14:58
bnemecOpen discussion in #tripleo14:58
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bnemec:-)14:58
ccamachojaajaj14:58
EmilienMif you have anything to ask or feedback to give, please do it now, or on #tripleo after the meeting, door is always open :)14:58
shardyThanks EmilienM !14:58
EmilienMthanks everyone, and keep rocking14:59
trownthanks EmilienM14:59
EmilienM#endmeeting14:59
beaglescheers!14:59
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ccamachothanks guys!14:59
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matrohon#start-meeting bgpvpn15:02
pcarverhi15:02
matrohon#startmeeting bgpvpn15:03
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep 20 15:03:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is matrohon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:03
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matrohonpcarver, timirnich, doude eon` : hi15:03
bfernandohello15:03
matrohontmorin is not available today15:03
matrohonI'm chairing this meeting15:03
matrohonbfernando, hi15:03
matrohon#topic annoucement15:04
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matrohon#topic announcement15:04
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matrohon#info the net-bgpvpn gate is broken15:05
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matrohonthe patch to fix it is upstreamed15:05
matrohon#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/371070/15:05
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matrohonwdeclercq, hi15:05
wdeclercqhey15:06
matrohonthis patch should merge soon15:06
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matrohonany other announcement?15:06
pcarvermaybe a little one15:06
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matrohonpcarver, please go ahead15:07
pcarverI've been trying to figure out how to do the API documentation. I decided to go ahead and start a commit in the networking-bgpvpn repo to work out the rough edges.15:07
pcarverhttps://review.openstack.org/37339515:07
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pcarverThis needs to eventually go into the neutron-lib repo15:08
matrohonpcarver, great!15:08
pcarverbut perfect has been the enemy of good for me. I've been putting it off because I can't get it near perfect15:08
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matrohon+115:08
pcarverI'm going to need help filling in the gaps in http://docs.openstack.org/developer/networking-bgpvpn/api.html because there isn't enough info there to completely translate to the new format15:09
matrohonpcarver, what's missing?15:09
pcarverwell, I'm not completely sure whether the missing REST actions are unsupported or just not in the documentation15:09
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pcarvere.g. PUT15:10
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matrohonpcarver, of course we'll help15:10
pcarveralso, I need to validate some parameter names, but I can probably figure that out myself15:10
pcarverbut if we're really using just "id" in places we may want to change that in the code15:11
matrohonpcarver, PUT action is available to update bgpvpns info15:11
pcarverI thought so, but the devref API doc only shows POST15:11
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matrohonpcarver, you're right, a better API doc is really needed!15:12
matrohonpcarver, do you think that might be available for newton?15:12
pcarverAnyway, I pushed a review to get a URL for this meeting. I'll push another patch set later today with more of the blanks filled in. Next week I'll report back with anything I haven't been able to figure out.15:13
matrohonpcarver, great thanks15:13
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pcarverI think the thing to do is refine the documentation in the new format within the networking-bgpvpn repo and then work on migrating it into neutron-lib after the summit.15:14
pcarverThe networking-sfc API documentation is currently in the networking-sfc repo.15:14
matrohonpcarver, AFAIU the pending bug to monitor progress should be in neutron-lib?15:15
pcarverI'm not sure15:15
matrohonpcarver : is there a way to auto generate the corresponding doc based on your patch set?15:16
pcarverFor publication on the OpenStack API web site it needs to eventually go into neutron-lib (assuming networking-bgpvpn remains a stadium project)15:16
pcarverlocally it should build with tox although I don't expect that'll be successful yet. I need to do a bit more work first.15:17
matrohonok, let's move on and we'll let you give us a report on  next meeting15:17
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matrohon#topic bugs15:18
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matrohon#link https://launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+milestone/5.0.015:19
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matrohonwe still have 5 open bug targeted for newton15:19
matrohonand 3 have high priority15:19
matrohonI've worked on :15:20
matrohonlink https://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/153706715:20
openstackLaunchpad bug 1537067 in networking-bgpvpn "enforce constraints on "neutron router-interface-add"" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Mathieu Rohon (mathieu-rohon)15:20
matrohonthe patch is ready for review, but depends on a neutron patch15:20
matrohonthe needed neutron patch is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/369221/15:21
matrohonI'll do my best to have it merged in newton15:22
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matrohonthe bug is tagged as neutron-rc2 and armax is on it, that's a good start15:23
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matrohonwe still have two other bugs that correspond to work needed to stay in the neutron stadium15:24
matrohon#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/156199315:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1561993 in networking-bgpvpn "support for openstack CLI" [High,Confirmed]15:24
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matrohon#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/158751115:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1587511 in networking-bgpvpn "demonstrate ability to upgrade" [High,Confirmed]15:25
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matrohonif any dev has a few bandwidth to work on it, that would be great15:25
matrohontmorin and I can obviously help15:26
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matrohonone is about adding a grenade job in our gate and the other one is about integrating the openstack client15:27
matrohonI'm sure non of them represents a big amount of work and there are surely plenty of example out there15:27
matrohonit has to be fixed before ocata-115:28
matrohonnormaly that's the time when everybody is jumping on assignation :)15:29
matrohonwell, that's all for me15:30
matrohon#topic open discussion15:31
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matrohonif anybody wants to talk about something....15:31
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matrohonok let's end up this meeting15:33
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matrohonthanks everyone15:33
matrohon#endmeeting15:33
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hongbin#startmeeting containers16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep 20 16:00:14 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is hongbin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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hongbin#topic Roll Call16:00
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muraliamurali allada16:00
strigaziSpyros Trigazis16:00
tonanhngoTon Ngo16:00
Dragoo/16:00
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hongbinThanks for joining the meeting muralia strigazi tonanhngo Drago jvgrant__ dane_leblanc_16:01
hongbin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2016-09-20_1600_UTC Today's agenda16:01
hongbinAnything needs to be added to the agenda?16:01
HieuHieu LE o/16:01
eghoboo/16:01
hongbinHieu: eghobo thanks for joining16:01
digao/16:01
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hongbin#topic Announcements16:02
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hongbin1. Magnum is having an election for Ocata PTL16:02
hongbinif you have a commit in mitaka or newton cycle, you should receive a link to vote16:02
hongbinlooking forward to your vote16:02
hongbin2. Magnum 3.1.0 release16:02
hongbin#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2016-September/001611.html16:03
hongbin3. Branch stable/newton was created and master branch was unfrozen.16:03
hongbinthe stable branch was created based on 3.1.0 tag16:03
adrian_ottoo/16:03
hongbinhowever, you can still submit bug fixes to newton16:03
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hongbinin particular, you can backport fixes to stable/newton branch, as long as it is before sep 30, it can be included in newton release16:04
hongbinany question about this?16:05
adrian_ottonope16:05
hongbinmaybe i have a question for you, is any bug fixes you want to be included in newton?16:06
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strigaziyatin reported one16:06
strigaziand I confirm it16:06
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strigazifetching link16:06
tonanhngothe k8s loadbalancer  for lbaas v1 would be good to have16:06
tonanhngoalthough somewhat limited16:06
strigazi#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/162547916:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1625479 in Magnum "Kubernetes fedora atomic is not working with cinder volume driver" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to yatin (yatinkarel)16:07
hongbinstrigazi: tonanhngo ack16:07
hongbinstrigazi: tonanhngo your deadline is sep 3016:07
hongbinthat is all for the annoucement16:07
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hongbinanyone else has an annoucement?16:07
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hongbin#topic Review Action Items16:08
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hongbinnone16:08
hongbin#topic Essential Blueprints Review16:08
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hongbin1. Support baremetal container clusters (strigazi)16:08
hongbin#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-baremetal-full-support16:08
hongbinstrigazi: ^^16:08
strigaziNothing since last week, trying to finalize mesos for ironic16:09
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hongbinstrigazi: ack16:09
hongbinthen, move to the next bp16:10
hongbin2. Magnum User Guide for Cloud Operator (tango)16:10
hongbin#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/user-guide16:10
hongbintonanhngo: ^^16:10
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tonanhngoThe Horizon and native client section is under review.  This should round out the user guide.16:10
tonanhngoOnce this one merges, I would like to backport it to stable/newton so the guide would be more complete16:11
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tonanhngoThere is still the HA section, but I have to think about what should go in there.16:11
tonanhngoIt's kind of a broad topic16:11
tonanhngoThat's all I have16:12
hongbintonanhngo: i think the developer doc are always generated from master , i am not sure if it worth to backport it16:12
adrian_ottoHA for the conductors and API servers16:12
tonanhngoand also for the cluster16:12
adrian_ottohow load balancing works16:12
strigazithese are two different topics16:12
adrian_ottofocus on the control plane for the user guide16:12
adrian_ottothe data plane (actual workloads) HA concerns are intractable for a guide like this.16:13
adrian_ottobut we could include some high level guidance16:13
tonanhngoalso best practice like for etcd for large cluster16:13
adrian_ottoas a lower priority than HA for the magnum service.16:13
tonanhngoanyway, this might be a good topic for a design session.16:14
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strigazifor HA for the magnum service16:14
strigaziyou can have a look here #link http://docs.openstack.org/ha-guide/16:14
tonanhngothanks16:15
hongbinthanks tonanhngo16:15
hongbin3. COE Bay Drivers (muralia)16:15
hongbin#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/bay-drivers16:15
hongbinmuralia: ^^16:15
muraliaI have fixed all the failing tests from last week. I'm currently rebasing with master16:16
muraliai have not done so since the bay to cluster rename,16:16
muralialots of merge conflicts, but just renames basically.16:16
muralianothing else to report.16:16
hongbinmuralia: you have a link to the patch?16:17
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muralianot yet. i'll submit once rebase is done.16:17
hongbinmuralia: ack16:17
strigazihow many thousant line?16:17
strigazihow many thousant lines?16:17
muraliaoh, i did not check.16:17
strigaziok16:18
hongbinthanks muralia16:18
hongbin4. Rename bay to cluster (jvgrant)16:18
hongbin#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/rename-bay-to-cluster16:19
hongbinjvgrant__: ^^16:19
jvgrant__nothing new to report, finished up last week.16:19
muraliaI think this can be removed from the agenda now right?16:19
hongbinjvgrant__: ready to close the bp?16:19
jvgrant__hongbin: yes, unless someone is aware of another area that needs updated16:20
hongbinjvgrant__: ack16:20
hongbinwill remove this from the agenda16:20
hongbin#topic Kuryr Integration Update (tango)16:20
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hongbintonanhngo: ^^16:20
tonanhngoI attended the Kuryr meeting yesterday16:20
tonanhngoThey seem happy to go with the 2 alternatives for implementing the multiple ports for containers:16:21
tonanhngoVLAN-aware VM and IPVLAN16:21
tonanhngothere is more pro/con discussion on IPVLAN16:21
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tonanhngoI would wait to see a POC, still a lot of unanswered questions16:22
tonanhngothe credential issue on VM is still open, they are aware, but I think they will proceed first to get functionality16:22
tonanhngothen solve the security issue16:23
tonanhngoFor us, we still need release 2 and the support for containers in VM16:23
tonanhngoI think it will awhile before we can really proceed16:23
hongbini see16:23
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tonanhngoThat's all I have16:24
hongbintonanhngo: thanks for tracking the status of kuryr16:24
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hongbinany question for tonanhngo ?16:24
hongbin#topic Other blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas16:24
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strigaziwill have a session in the summit for this?16:24
strigazitonanhngo ^^16:25
strigaziwith the kuryr team16:25
tonanhngoKuryr?16:25
tonanhngoI think we should16:25
tonanhngoit was helpful last time16:25
strigaziok16:25
hongbini can talk to their ptl about that16:25
strigaziok16:26
hongbin#action hongbin talk to kuryr ptl to setup a join-session in design summit16:26
hongbinback to the topic16:26
hongbin1. k8s external load balancer is not getting created16:26
hongbin#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/152402516:26
openstackLaunchpad bug 1524025 in Magnum "Kubernetes external loadbalancer is not getting created" [High,In progress]16:26
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tonanhngoI was trying to replicate Dane's environment:  OpenStack Mitaka with lastest Magnum16:27
tonanhngobut ran into a number of issues16:27
tonanhngostill trying to get it working.16:27
strigaziyou mean devstack?16:28
tonanhngoYes, Basically we need LBaas v1, which has been removed16:28
tonanhngoI can build devstack with Mitaka, but getting lastest Magnum there is a bit tricky16:29
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tonanhngowith the removal of Heat from devstack, keystone v3, etc16:29
tonanhngoonce I get the environment, I can debug the K8s plugin.16:29
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tonanhngoThe error message seems to indicate that the plugin has problem reading the config file16:30
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tonanhngoso, continuing debugging, working with Dane16:31
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hongbinthanks tonanhngo for working on this16:31
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hongbin#topic Open Discussion16:32
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strigaziSummit sessions16:32
strigaziI have to propose one with the Heat team16:32
strigazitwo reasons for this16:33
strigazi1. we will need their opinion on the nodegroup refactoring16:33
adrian_ottostrigazi: regarding the nextgen design for diverse clusters (node pools) and orchestrating those?16:33
strigaziyes16:33
strigaziand 2,16:33
strigazifrom our benchmarks, magnum bottleneck is heat which scales linearly. Which is not ideal16:34
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strigaziThey might have some insight to offer16:34
strigazito conclude on this16:34
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strigaziwe need to present them how we use heat in detail and they might be able to help. Or at least verify that these are the capablities of heat16:35
strigazithat's it16:35
tonanhngodo they have Rally benchmarks?16:35
strigazithere are plugins for heat but16:36
strigaziI don't have any data16:36
strigaziand the issue might be16:36
strigazihow we (magnum) use heat16:36
tonanhngook, we are their user16:37
strigaziyes16:37
strigaziWhat do you think? Does it make sense?16:37
hongbin+116:37
tonanhngowe can request a joint session16:37
strigaziThat it what I was aiming for16:37
Dragostrigazi: I think they would like to hear the data you have. They are definitely interested in working on Heat's performance in Ocata16:38
tonanhngoand present data16:38
strigaziDrago: sure16:38
strigaziWe can run again the tests at CERN but after the summit16:38
strigaziDon't know when exactly16:39
hongbini think we can start on creating a etherpad, and list all the requested session in design summit16:40
hongbinthen, based on the feedback, we can plan each session accordingly16:40
strigaziAre you going to contact the heat team hongbin? We agree on  this session?16:41
hongbinstrigazi: yes, i can do that16:41
hongbin#action hongbin contact the heat team about a join-session for discussing heat performance16:42
strigazi#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-ocata-summit-topics16:43
hongbinstrigazi: thx16:43
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hongbinany other topic to discuss?16:44
jvgrant__the NodeGroup spec has been update some.16:44
jvgrant__https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352734/16:44
jvgrant__feedback appreciated16:45
jvgrant__most of the new proposed operations and some examples are now included16:45
strigazijvgrant__: ack16:45
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strigazioh on the spec subject16:45
tonanhngowe can probably remove the WIP to get more attention16:45
strigaziMost projects have <project>-specs repo and they publish the specs16:46
jvgrant__still has a ways to go, but i think some more discussion around it would help16:46
strigazitonanhngo: I think the WIP should remain until the summit16:46
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hongbinok, it looks nobody else has a topic16:49
DragoI would like feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/368981/. Specifically, what should be included in the script for performing the actual restart of services (currently only `systemctl restart xxx`). That is all.16:49
hongbinlet's end the meeting a bit earlier16:49
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adrian_ottoI second the motion16:49
hongbinDrago: ack16:50
hongbin#endmeeting16:50
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kzaitsev_mbhi, is there anyone today ready for murano community meeting?17:00
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kzaitsev_mb#startmeeting murano17:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'murano'17:01
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kzaitsev_mbhi folks we don't have any specific agenda for today17:02
kzaitsev_mb#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda17:02
kzaitsev_mbso let's skip rightaway to open discussion )17:03
kzaitsev_mb#topic Open Discussion17:03
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kzaitsev_mbNanKe: DavidPurcell thanks for coming along =)17:03
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kzaitsev_mbI'd like to appologise in advance — I'm still on a very long company meeting so I might be a bit unresponsive )17:04
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kzaitsev_mblet me go with some updates =)17:04
DavidPurcellThanks.  It seemed better to use my real name over "ding", haha17:04
NanKeI am very glad to be a member of your murano;)17:04
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kzaitsev_mbwe have a rc1 available, but we would most likely have to issue rc2 for murano and probably for dashboard17:05
kzaitsev_mb#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano17:05
kzaitsev_mbwe have a high/critical bug in murano17:05
kzaitsev_mband I believe we need to backport glance v2 work to dashboard17:05
kzaitsev_mbzhurong already fied that in master, but we need to backport that thing17:06
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kzaitsev_mb#action kzaitsev_mb Check if we need to backport glance v2 commit to stable/newton17:07
kzaitsev_mb#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/371400/17:08
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kzaitsev_mbthat's all with the release stuff17:09
kzaitsev_mbother updates include Barcelona schedule =)17:10
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sergmeli_o/17:10
kzaitsev_mbDavidPurcell: NanKe are you guys coming btw? =)17:10
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kzaitsev_mbI know tlashchova and vakovalchuk are ))17:10
* sergmelikyan is going to skip summit this time 17:10
DavidPurcellI wish but I don't think company will pay for it.  :(17:11
kzaitsev_mbthe shcedule is ready — we were given more wr's than we requested, so I decided to spare one for glare/murano/app-catalog integration17:11
kzaitsev_mbthis should make mfedosin happy =))17:11
ddovbii_o/17:12
osho/17:12
sergmelikyanDavidPurcell: :(17:12
sergmelikyankzaitsev_mb: how much we will have in the end?17:12
kzaitsev_mb#link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TQ-RSlbiBBEclkonIbfUP7R1ExZSJylF1uiEKV2G_Cw/pubhtml?gid=1107826458&single=true17:12
sergmelikyan1fb + 2wr17:13
sergmelikyannice17:13
kzaitsev_mb1 fb, 1 wr and a joint murano/glare wr on Friday17:13
freerunnero/17:13
NanKemy internet not so good tonight   now i am online17:14
NanKeit is 01:14 am in my place17:15
sergmelikyanwow, super late :(17:15
kzaitsev_mbso I'm putting a topic for next agenda meetings to decide what are we going to spend the wr for =)17:15
kzaitsev_mbNanKe: we've already recieved a couple of requests to move our community meetings earlier17:16
kzaitsev_mbor to alternate it17:16
NanKeyes i kown17:16
kzaitsev_mbwith all the pre-rease hussle I just couldn't find enough time to process it17:16
NanKei know  zhurong said it to me17:16
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kzaitsev_mbI think it's quite reasonable for us to consider that )17:17
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kzaitsev_mb#action kzaitsev_mb osh write an email to ML and start a doodle to gather opinions and find most suitable time17:17
kzaitsev_mbhey, let's move this forward, won't we? )17:18
kzaitsev_mbI see 2 options — move current time or start alterating times (like horizon does)17:18
NanKeok17:18
kzaitsev_mbosh: may I ask you to help me with this one =)17:18
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kzaitsev_mbok, I'll ping him when he's back from the offline meeting )17:19
oshkzaitsev_mb: deal, I'll ping him (:17:20
kzaitsev_mbhaha17:20
kzaitsev_mbok, that's all on the updates from my side17:21
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kzaitsev_mbanyone else? =) if you want to ask smth or discuss a topic — now's the time )17:24
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kzaitsev_mbok, I'm going to end the meeting early today then17:29
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NanKesee you in #murano17:31
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kzaitsev_mbthanks everyone for coming today =) NanKe DavidPurcell see you on next meetings and please be sure to share your opinion when we would start the meeting time thread )17:32
kzaitsev_mband yeah17:32
kzaitsev_mbsee you in #murano17:32
kzaitsev_mb=)17:32
kzaitsev_mbNanKe: ;)17:32
kzaitsev_mb#endmeeting17:32
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catherine_d|1#startmeeting refstack19:00
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catherine_d|1#link meeting agenda  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-09-2019:02
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catherine_d|1hi everyone ...19:03
catherine_d|1first of all, I will be out of the office next week ...19:04
catherine_d|1we can cancel the meeting or one of you can help to run the meeting if we need to meet ..19:05
catherine_d|1andrey-mp: do you get the agneda link?19:05
andrey-mpcatherine_d|1 yes19:05
catherine_d|1great ...19:06
andrey-mpi'll be on vacation too next week19:06
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luzCandrey-mp agenda:  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-09-2019:06
sslypushenkoo/19:06
catherine_d|1looks like it makes sense to skip the meeting next week?19:06
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catherine_d|1let's decide at the end of this meeting to see whether we need one next week19:07
catherine_d|1Let's start ...19:07
catherine_d|1#topic Barcelona summit working sessions19:07
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catherine_d|1we have 2 working sessions on Wednesday fro 5:05 PM to 6:35 PM19:08
catherine_d|1as far as I know there is no conflict with EC2API or DefCore19:08
catherine_d|1BTW, who is going to the summit?19:09
catherine_d|1I am going19:09
luzCI'm going too19:09
sslypushenkome - not(19:09
catherine_d|1sslypushenko: :-(19:09
RockygI am19:10
catherine_d|1I know pvaneck: is .. How about andrey-mp: ?19:10
andrey-mpwe do19:11
catherine_d|1So I started  a etherpad for the sessions .. pls add any topic you think we should discuss ..19:11
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catherine_d|1#link RefStack Barcelona summit etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-ocata-summit19:12
catherine_d|1luzC: seems like the tempest conf blueprint is a good one19:12
catherine_d|1moving on ...19:13
catherine_d|1#topic Enable vendor/product registration on RefStack website19:13
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catherine_d|1before that we should merge the feature/vendor code to master ...19:14
catherine_d|1there are few more patches needed ...19:14
catherine_d|1currently we schedule to have those code merged to feature/vendor   on Oct 719:15
andrey-mpcan defcore approve specs?19:16
catherine_d|1The patches to be submitted should provide features incliude in this PoC http://refstack.mybluemix.net/#/19:17
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catherine_d|1andrey-mp: Egle (she is the co-chair) did we should  remind other DefCore members  again ....19:18
catherine_d|1luzC: Rockyg: I will not be at the DefCore meeting ... could you remind other members to approve ?19:19
Rockygyes19:19
catherine_d|1luzC: Rockyg: including YOU of course19:20
luzCyes19:20
catherine_d|1I do not think they have meeting link for tomorrow yet19:20
catherine_d|1luzC: pls help to add the 2 links to the DefCore agenda when it becomes available .. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343954/  and  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332260/19:21
Rockygyup19:21
luzCI will19:21
RockygI think the ethepad came out last wednesday.  Lemme check19:22
catherine_d|1I really hope that we can roll out the vendor/product registration feature at the Barcelona summit19:22
catherine_d|1Rockyg: thx19:22
Rockyg#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreLunar.1819:22
catherine_d|1Rockyg: thx19:23
luzCyes... etherpad is still empty but will update it when available :)19:23
luzCRockyg thanks :)19:23
catherine_d|1luzC: thx19:23
catherine_d|1moving on ...19:24
RockygYup get the links out just below the defcore ones so maybe people review ahead od the meeting19:24
catherine_d|1#topic Pending reviews19:24
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catherine_d|1andrey-mp: thx for merging the version UI patch19:25
andrey-mpno problem19:25
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catherine_d|1andrey-mp: I see that you abandon yoiur other patches ... I hope you will update them later to the latest implementation ... those patches of yours are valuable to the users ..19:26
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catherine_d|1#link     Add ability to associate product version to test (  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367034/ )19:26
andrey-mpyeah, anyone can restore it if needed19:26
catherine_d|1andrey-mp: OK will do19:27
catherine_d|1for   https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367034/  .. I put a comment .. perhaps pvaneck: can respond later ..19:28
pvaneckpvaneck: yea, I will get back on that patch19:28
pvaneckwoops: catherine_d|119:28
catherine_d|1andrey-mp: do you have chance to review it ?  Of course, we could not merge this one until the spec is reviewed by DefCore and merged19:28
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andrey-mpi'm waiting for spec - review of api code is no so long19:29
catherine_d|1andrey-mp: OK19:29
catherine_d|1The next two patches are the specs ...19:29
catherine_d|1luzC: will help to ask more DefCore members to review ... ...19:30
catherine_d|1luzC: thx19:30
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luzCNP ;)19:30
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luzCI'll make time to review the patches as well19:30
catherine_d|1The next two patches are luzC: 's19:31
catherine_d|1luzC: anything you want to share with us here on the 2 patches ?19:31
luzCone of them is the spec... I think we agree on that one... not sure the next step to actually merge it/ approve it19:32
catherine_d|1#link     Added Defcore additional properties waiver ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370534/  )  --> spec19:32
catherine_d|1#link     Implement additional properties Defcore waiver (  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349213/ )19:32
luzCactually https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349213/ is the spec19:32
catherine_d|1yea .. everyone .. Let's review the spec again and merge it ...19:33
catherine_d|1I will do that before I leave this afternoon19:33
luzCthanks...19:34
luzCabout  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370534/19:34
luzCits almost all the functionality if you can help me with some reviews as well19:34
catherine_d|1luzC: For the implementation,  I have not reviewd in details ... but I like that you create a separate file19:34
luzCI'm adding a second patch to include missing parts (creating a zip bundle, documentation, etc)19:35
catherine_d|1#action RefStack memebers to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349213 and  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370534/19:36
pvanecksure19:36
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catherine_d|1I am always concerned about code cleanup after it is obsoleted .. a separate file help ..19:37
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catherine_d|1anything else on this topic?19:38
luzCnot on my end19:38
catherine_d|1let's move on ...19:38
catherine_d|1#topic  Tempest Configurator: file creation19:39
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catherine_d|1#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/defcore-tempest-configuration-spec19:40
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catherine_d|1I do not think any of us have a chance to review this yet ...19:40
luzCI just added based on an email from Gema19:40
sslypushenkocatherine_d|1:  heh, finally !19:41
catherine_d|1luzC: thx19:41
sslypushenkoit will a great move forward)19:41
luzCI have some concerns related to the questions/support that will generate in case it lands on refstack-client19:41
catherine_d|1My only concern about having a tempest conf creation script is ... does the script work on all cases>19:41
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catherine_d|1and if it does not ... like luzC: I am concerned about supporting it ..19:42
RockygI also have a concern in that this is also starting to be a thing again in Rally.  So, we should coordinate/get them to review, maybe?19:42
catherine_d|1Rockyg: absolutely .... I also know that Redhat also have some script ... I do not have a link handy ... I can dig it out19:43
luzCjust today on qa channel there was a person asking about tempest configuration... he was using a  config_tempest.py from RDO which didn't have all the config options so it was missed configured for his environment19:44
luzCand tempest was not working19:44
catherine_d|1there is also this one http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/defcore-committee/2016-September/001240.html19:44
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catherine_d|1all solution I have seen so far does not work for all cases ...19:45
catherine_d|1luzC: that is exactly what I am saying19:45
catherine_d|1the solution I see so far does not work for all cases ...19:46
catherine_d|1it is very difference in providing script that does not work ... comparing to provide best practice advises19:46
catherine_d|1so I am very concerned about the supporting issues19:46
luzCagree19:47
catherine_d|1For example ... today I receie a email saying19:47
sslypushenkobut somebody should take care of it  at least19:47
catherine_d|1I got the following error when i trying to run test. Could you please help me about that?19:47
catherine_d|1root@tariku-Latitude-E5440:~/refstack-client# ./refstack-client test -c ./tempest.conf  --test-list test.list Traceback (most recent call last):   File "./refstack-client", line 31, in <module>     raise SystemExit(getattr(test, args.func)())   File "/root/refstack-client/refstack_client/refstack_client.py", line 398, in test     keystone_config = self._get_keystone_config(self.conf)   File "/root19:48
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catherine_d|1since this is our script so we should help ... but the root of the problem here maybe the config file format itself ...19:48
luzCwe could have a FAQ with common issues or a "How to configure manually"19:48
catherine_d|1luzC: ++19:49
luzCwe should acknowledge that we might get a lot of this questions19:50
catherine_d|1we should do that ... but provide a script is a different issue beause if provide one it should work ... and if does not wrok we need to debug ... but we do not have accesss to those cloud ...19:50
catherine_d|1so guidance is one thing ... expectation is a different thing ..19:50
catherine_d|1anyway .. I think this is a good topic for the summit ...19:51
RockygMaybe we include a url in the error message that points to a coomon problem wiki or web page?19:51
catherine_d|1Rockyg: ++19:51
Rockygcommon19:51
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catherine_d|1totally agree19:51
Rockygit would be great to use ask.openstack, but I don't think it is back to a usable state yet.19:52
catherine_d|1Rockyg: I think we could have Q/A sessions on the RefStack website19:52
luzCI added the topic on Barcelona summit agenda :)19:53
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sslypushenkoI guess step-by-step wizard can handle with issue19:53
catherine_d|1sslypushenko: we can do that for what we know today ... the issues is we may not know all cases ... since we are now testing  real world clouds !!19:55
catherine_d|1luzC: thx a lot!19:55
catherine_d|1anything else?19:55
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catherine_d|1Pls actively review whenever there is new patch ... I really hope that we can enable vendor/product registration at Barcelona summit19:56
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catherine_d|1alrigjt that should be all for today ...19:57
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catherine_d|1thank you all for your time !19:57
luzCthank you :)19:57
catherine_d|1#endmeeting19:58
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