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devkulkarni#startmeeting Solum Team Meeting14:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep 21 14:00:25 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)"14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting'14:00
devkulkarni#topic Roll Call14:00
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devkulkarniDevdatta Kulkarni14:00
Abluhi14:00
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zhurong\0/14:01
devkulkarnihey Ablu, hey zhurong14:01
caoweihi All14:01
devkulkarnihi caowei14:01
zhuronghi all14:02
devkulkarniwe have enough of us, so lets get started14:02
devkulkarnihere is the agenda for today: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Weekly_Solum_Team_Meeting14:02
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devkulkarniLets go through the agenda items and then we can open it up for open discussion14:03
devkulkarni#topic Announcements14:03
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devkulkarni1) Welcome to new contributor (tgtanya)14:04
Abluhi :)14:04
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devkulkarniyesterday we got pings from tgtanya showing interest in contributing to Solum14:04
tgtanyaSo glad to be here, thanks devkulkarni :)14:05
devkulkarnitgtanya: glad you could make it to our meeting14:05
devkulkarniA very warm welcome to Solum :)14:05
devkulkarnitgtanya: you can introduce yourself to rest of the team?14:05
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tgtanyaHey Team Solum, my name is Tanya Goel and I am currently an undergrad student majoring in Cloud Computing from India14:06
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caoweihi tgtanya14:07
tgtanyaLooking forward to be a part of this team and contribute, this would be my first time contributing to an open-source project14:07
tgtanyaHey Ablu, caowei :)14:07
zhurongtgtanya welcome14:07
devkulkarniGood to know that you are majoring in the area of cloud computing14:08
devkulkarniWe are happy that you have chosen Solum as your first step into open source cloud computing14:08
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devkulkarniSolum team will be happy to help you get started on this journey14:08
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tgtanyaSo I have heard, no better place to start than an OpenStack project community14:09
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devkulkarniOpenStack tc would be thrilled to hear that14:09
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devkulkarnibtw, I am curious as what made you choose Solum over other OpenStack projects? Did you have specific interest in application build/deploy, PaaS, etc.14:10
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tgtanyaI am not very good with API designs yet, but Solum seemed like the project to help me understand the actual implementation of OpenStack for the end-user deployment of applications14:12
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devkulkarniCool. That seems like a very good reason to me. You will definitely learn all about app deployment when working on Solum14:13
devkulkarniSo, welcome again.14:13
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tgtanyaThanks, again. :)14:13
devkulkarniLets move on to the next item on the list of announcements14:13
devkulkarni2) PTL candidacy (http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/103871.html)14:14
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devkulkarniIf you have not seen this email before, I submitted my candidacy for the PTL position for Ocata cycle14:14
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devkulkarnithe election period is currently active. although we don't have elections as there is no other candidate14:15
devkulkarnithere will be elections for 4 other projects14:15
devkulkarnionce the election period is over (coming Sunday), the official results for all the projects will be announced14:16
devkulkarnibtw, if you have not yet subscribed to openstack-dev mailing list, I would advise to do that.14:16
devkulkarnithat is the list where all the important emails related to wider openstack go14:17
zhurongagree with this14:17
devkulkarniin case you want to ask a solum specific question, you can do that as well on that list. Just make sure that you put [Solum] in the subject line of your email14:17
devkulkarniok, so the third announcement today is related to Barcelona summit14:18
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devkulkarnifor those who don't know yet, OpenStack summit in Barcelona is happening in last week of October14:18
devkulkarniFor Solum, we have one fishbowl session14:19
devkulkarniwhich is basically one 50 minute slot where we can do presentation/demo.14:19
devkulkarniUnfortunately, I won't be able to go to the summit. However, zhurong is most likely going to be there14:20
devkulkarniand he has agreed to represent our team in the fishbowl session14:20
zhurongMy application is still applying14:20
caoweicool14:20
devkulkarnizhurong and I will be working on the presentation for the fishbowl session14:21
devkulkarnizhurong: ack14:21
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devkulkarniIn case zhurong is not able to make it as well then we can check if any other contributors would be there, and would be willing to present14:21
devkulkarnicaowei, Ablu: are any of you planning to be in Barcelona?14:22
Abluna14:22
devkulkarniok14:22
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devkulkarniI will check with vijendar and dimtruck14:23
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caoweisorry , i can't14:23
devkulkarniin case that none of is there, I will let the organizers know accordingly so that they can give that slot to some other project14:23
devkulkarnicaowei: ok14:23
devkulkarnis/none of is/none of us/14:24
devkulkarnialright, those were all the prepared announcements that I had14:24
devkulkarnido any of you have any announcements?14:24
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zhurongnp14:25
devkulkarnialright. lets move on to the next topic14:25
devkulkarni#topic Discussion14:26
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devkulkarni Logging is now fixed (thanks zhurong)14:26
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zhurong:)14:26
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devkulkarnizhurong: do you mind updating the team on the issue and how you fixed it?14:26
devkulkarnithis was pending for long time14:26
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devkulkarniit had blocked our migration to oslo, so really glad that this has been taken care of14:27
zhurongthe oslo_log config can not load, we should register it first14:28
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devkulkarniyou had to change the logging trace setup as well, right?14:29
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zhurongyep, now it can works well14:30
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devkulkarnireally glad that this has been resolved.14:31
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devkulkarnitgtanya: since you are going to setup Solum development environment, you can verify what zhurong fixed through his patch14:31
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devkulkarnibasically, if all the solum services start up nicely and if you are able to see log messages being generated for each service, then things are working correctly14:32
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devkulkarnithanks zhurong for fixing this14:33
tgtanyadevkulkarni: will do14:33
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devkulkarniare there any other items that you want to discuss?14:33
zhurongnoting from my side14:35
devkulkarniok, in that case let me open the floor for open discussion14:35
devkulkarni#topic Open Discussion14:35
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devkulkarnias a reminder, in open discussion, you can bring up anything that you have on mind if we have not covered that in our meeting14:37
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devkulkarnialright, if there is nothing else to discuss today in the meeting, we can end the meeting14:42
devkulkarnithanks Ablu, zhurong, caowei, tgtanya for joining the meeting today14:43
zhurongI think we can end the meeting earlier. :)14:44
Abludevkulkarni: thanks for hosting14:44
devkulkarnizhurong: about to end it14:44
devkulkarnisee you all next week14:44
devkulkarni#endmeeting14:44
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haleybit's back15:03
haleyb#startmeeting neutron_dvr15:04
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep 21 15:04:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:04
Swamicool15:04
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:04
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haleyb#chair Swami15:04
openstackCurrent chairs: Swami haleyb15:04
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haleyb#topic Announcements15:04
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haleybThe sky is blue, the grass is green... and RC1 was cut15:05
Swamihaleyb: no rain so far.15:05
haleybnot much here either15:06
Swamihaleyb: :-)15:06
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haleybAny critical fixes that need to get into newton should be raised to our leader, i am but a minion15:07
Swamihaleyb: sure15:07
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haleybSo master is open, and things will start merging, but we're still trying to focus on high priority bug fixes15:08
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haleybwith that...15:08
Swamihaleyb: good15:08
haleyb#topic Bugs15:08
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Swamihaleyb: thanks15:08
Swamithis week we had one new bug reported.15:09
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/162533315:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1625333 in neutron "Booting VM with a Floating IP and pinging it via that takes a long time with errors in L3-Agent logs when using DVR" [Undecided,New]15:09
Swamihaleyb: I think you have already replied to this bug.15:09
SwamiIs this related to the non_local_binding setting.15:10
SwamiWe see the 'GARP' fails from the FIP namespace.15:10
haleybSwami: yes, it seems to be, but that should have been set, so a reproducer is needed15:10
SwamiSo that's the reason for the delay in response.15:11
Swamihaleyb: Ya there are redundant settings for the non_local_bind to be set. I don't see any error message for it to set.15:11
SwamiSo something else might be causing this issue.15:12
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haleybWe'd need to know kernel version, or get on a system exhibiting the problem, or see the full logs for the l3-agent as i don't see them there15:13
Swamihaleyb: yes you are right. I don't think we are seeing such error logs in the gate.15:13
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haleybi'll add another comment as i don't think it's reasonable to ask that we load, configure and run this new rally test15:14
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Swamihaleyb: makes sense15:14
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SwamiThat's all for the new bugs, and let us go over the old bugs.15:15
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/161219215:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1612192 in neutron "L3 DVR: Unable to complete operation on subnet" [High,Confirmed]15:16
SwamiDo we still see this message in the gate check jobs?15:17
SwamiYou have mentioned last week, that we don't see this error for the last 6 days, if so should we still have the severity as High.15:18
haleybsorry, gott call15:19
Swamihaleyb: no problem, go ahead15:19
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SwamiThe next one in the list is15:20
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Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/161280415:20
openstackLaunchpad bug 1612804 in neutron "test_shelve_instance fails with sshtimeout" [High,Confirmed]15:20
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SwamiThis bug is also under the watch list.15:21
haleybi'm back15:21
Swamihaleyb: great15:22
haleybi don't think we've seen that in weeks now, i'll run a logstash and update15:22
Swamihaleyb: both the bugs mentioned above can be under the watch list and let us see if this has been triggered by something else other than dvr15:22
haleybof course i jinxed myself and see them now15:23
haleybbut i need to do some work on it, they might not be in the gate15:24
Swamihaleyb: do you mean these errors are still seen upstream15:24
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haleybthe logstash link from the bug shows errors15:25
Swamihaleyb: ok15:25
haleybbut i need to filter by build_queue:gate15:25
SwamiThe most vulnerable tests for dvr are the 'shelve_instance', 'volume_boot_pattern' and dhcpv6_statefull and dhcpv6_stateless.15:26
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haleybthere have been 7 in the gate the past 7 days15:27
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Swamihaleyb: ok, and is it only seen for the dvr and not for the non-dvr case.15:27
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haleybyes, i think just dvr15:28
Swamihaleyb: ok15:29
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haleybactually one is ovn15:29
Swamihaleyb: thanks15:29
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SwamiThe next in the list is15:29
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/160674115:29
openstackLaunchpad bug 1606741 in neutron "Metadata service for instances is unavailable when the l3-agent on the compute host is dvr_snat mode" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley)15:29
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haleybwhy do i own that :)15:29
Swamihaleyb: we discussed about this bug. Are we still considering this as a bug and need to fix.15:30
SwamiNot sure, someone assigned your name to the bug recently. May be the recent bug deputy would have done it.15:30
haleybi think i updated the review, jenkins did it15:30
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SwamiIt might be a minor fix where it checks for the agent type and takes necessary action.15:31
SwamiWe might not be configuring it for the dvr_snat agent.15:31
haleybthe patch needs an update at the least based on the comments15:31
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Swamihaleyb: yes let us wait for the update.15:32
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Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/157167615:34
openstackLaunchpad bug 1571676 in neutron "After binding a floating IP to VM, the static route can't work in DVR." [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan)15:34
SwamiPatch needs review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308068/15:34
haleybi need to re-review, but think it's close15:36
Swamihaleyb: yes it should be close.15:36
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/150656715:36
openstackLaunchpad bug 1506567 in neutron "No information from Neutron Metering agent" [Undecided,Confirmed]15:36
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SwamiI need to work on it. I started to triage it but got distracted.15:37
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SwamiThat's all I had for bugs this week.15:37
haleybi think it has similarities to the ipv6 PD issue/fix ritesh had done, but we need a generic way for an agent to ask what namespace to work on15:38
haleybthanks for all the updates Swami15:38
Swamihaleyb: yes I agree.15:38
haleybjschwarz: any HA bugs to add?  you fixed them all, right? :)15:39
Swamihaleyb: I think there is one ha functional test issue still15:40
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/158064815:40
openstackLaunchpad bug 1580648 in neutron "Two HA routers in master state during functional test" [Undecided,Opinion]15:40
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jschwarzhaleyb, I hope so :)15:40
jschwarzhaleyb, I was on PTO for the last week, but I haven't received any mails about new bugs, etcv15:40
Swamijschwarz:^^15:40
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jschwarzSwami, I'll add this one to my todo list and will have a good response by next week hopefully15:41
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jschwarzalas, I haven't got anything to add yet15:41
haleybjschwarz: should i assign it to you?15:41
jschwarzhaleyb, lets assign it to me with the "John should decide if this is a bug or not" and I'll work on it15:42
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jschwarzhaleyb, opinions seem to be conflicted on that one so that seems like the best in-the-middle approach15:42
haleybjschwarz: it's all yours now :)15:44
jschwarzhaleyb, yay! :)15:44
haleyb#topic Gate failures15:45
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haleybthe failures had been up and down, but now it seems the tempest dvr gate job is at 10% failure15:46
haleybhttp://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=5&fullscreen15:46
Swamihaleyb: that is not good.15:47
haleybthis started yesterday, but actually now i see it's falling this morning, could be directly releated to the regular job15:47
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haleybi will watch it today and look for failures, but sometimes we are just the victim15:49
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Swamihaleyb: as always15:49
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haleyb#topic Open Discussion15:50
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jschwarzSo I talked a few weeks back about adding a new DVR+HA gate15:50
jschwarzUnfortunately I just lack the capacity to deal with this altogether and I've left it untouched since15:50
Swamijschwarz: yes15:50
jschwarzI'd be happy if some generous contributer help me with this one15:51
haleybjschwarz: is it all a yaml change in the infra jobs?15:51
Swamijschwarz: I think we should first get the infra permission to run three node for multinode job.15:51
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Swamijschwarz: where two node can run dvr_snat ha, and the remaining can run the dvr agent type.15:52
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jschwarzhaleyb, I have no idea of how to work infra stuff15:52
jschwarzSwami, agreed15:52
haleybi would think we could add an experimental job that is 3 nodes15:52
jschwarzthis seems like mostly a biocratic task that I don't have the capacity to do atm15:52
haleybjschwarz: hmm, i have done very little there myself, but should be similar to the DVR job15:53
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* haleyb googles biocratic :)15:53
* jschwarz 's spelling is bad ;-)15:53
Swamihaleyb: need to add config details for the ha.15:53
jschwarzhaleyb, so if you can find the exact code that hosts the DVR jobs, I can probably do some copy-pasting and propose on that, and get the discussion going on that patch instead15:54
haleybSwami: right, and possibly packages?15:54
Swamijschwarz: I can point you to the patch in infra that I added for making the multinode job.15:54
haleybjschwarz: i'll look, but some of that infra code is kryptonite15:54
jschwarzSwami, awesome15:54
* haleyb takes a step back and lets Swami help15:55
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jschwarzok, so lets co-operate on this one and see how it goes15:55
jschwarzI'll do my best to put some cycles into this15:55
Swamijschwarz: I will send you the link to the patch and we can follow up on this.15:55
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jschwarzSwami, much appreciated15:55
jschwarzIn other news, I have plans to submit some patches that refactors the l3 scheduler in the coming weeks15:56
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jschwarzme and kevinbenton worked on a DB change that got in for N, so refactors can also be backported to N now, which is good for us15:56
Swamijschwarz: will look for it.15:56
haleyb+115:56
jschwarzI'll make sure to add you guys as reviewers15:56
jschwarzseems like haleyb likes to ask for patches to review ;-)15:57
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haleybthat's the only way i can fall asleep at night now, like reading a book15:57
Swamihaleyb: great medicine to sleep. :-)15:58
haleybi had one other bug that i must have forgot to add15:58
haleybhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/162451515:58
openstackLaunchpad bug 1624515 in neutron "DVR: SNAT port not found in the list error in check jobs" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley)15:58
Swamihaleyb: yes15:59
haleybSwami: oleg said he's fine assuming i add a test, so i'll fix that up15:59
Swamihaleyb: ok thanks,15:59
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haleybwe need to write a DVR book to hand out at the summit one day...15:59
jschwarzhaleyb, sounds like a plan16:00
haleybthanks everyone, top of hour16:00
* jschwarz is working on a DVR lecture for some folks atm16:00
haleyb#endmeeting16:00
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rkukuraHi ML2’ers16:01
yamamotohi16:01
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rkukuraSukhdev told me he is on PTO this week, and next I think16:02
rkukuraWe don’t have anything new on the agenda16:03
rkukuraAnd I’ve got no more than 15-20 minutes available right now16:03
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rkukuraso I’m wondering if anyone has anything they’d like to discuss today, or if we should skip this week16:03
andreas_sI don't have anything16:04
rkukurayamamoto: Anything you’d like to discuss today?16:04
yamamotonothing16:05
rkukuraAnyone else?16:05
rkukuraOK, if there are no objections, we’ll skip today’s ML2 meeting16:06
yamamoto+116:06
andreas_scool. See you next week!16:07
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rkukuraThanks for stopping in! We’ll see if we have anything important to cover next week, and hopefully get rolling on the next cycle the following week16:07
rkukurabye!16:07
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yamamotogood night16:08
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mugsie#startmeeting Designate17:00
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timsimo/17:00
mugsieKiall: timsim elarson federico3 sonuk_ : ping17:01
mugsie#topic Roll Call17:01
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sonuk_o/17:01
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mugsiewe will give people a few mins to file in17:01
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mugsie#topic Announcements17:02
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mugsie#info RC-1 is tagged17:02
mugsieso, of we could do some testing, that would be great :)17:02
mugsiewe have a short window to find issues17:03
mugsie#topic Action Items17:03
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mugsie#action17:03
mugsiemugsie bp 97c5ab3 Merge "Use upper constraints for all jobs in tox.ini"17:03
mugsie#action17:03
mugsie#action mugsie bp 97c5ab3 Merge "Use upper constraints for all jobs in tox.ini"17:03
mugsietimsim to start convo on bug 161745417:03
openstackbug 1617454 in Designate "Changes do not propagate to downed/recovered nameservers, depending on threshold percentage" [Undecided,Opinion] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161745417:04
mugsieI saw that timsim did :)17:04
timsimI did that this morning17:04
timsimpew pew17:04
mugsie#topic Bug Triage (timsim - recurring)17:04
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timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/162394917:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1623949 in Designate "DNSaas_Dynect_Backend: Designate MDNS fails to send SOA messages to dynect with error " dns.exception.SyntaxError"" [Undecided,New]17:04
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timsimThanks dnspython, I'm pretty sure that used to work?17:04
timsimOr maybe I'm thinking of something else. Pretty sure I sent a notify to a hostname before.17:05
mugsiei think it is somehting we did17:05
timsimah17:05
mugsiebut, H, Triagged17:05
timsimrc1 or nah?17:05
timsimWhat's the status of that backend?17:05
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mugsieit exists17:06
mugsie:)17:06
mugsiewe have not tested it in a while17:06
timsimlol. So no rc2(?) tag for that?17:06
mugsienot RC17:06
mugsiewe can doc it17:06
timsimAlrighty17:06
mugsieadd a rc-doc-potential tag17:06
timsimcool. That's all for me17:07
mugsie#topic Stable Backport Triage (kiall - recurring)17:07
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mugsieKiall: ?17:07
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mugsie#link http://paste.openstack.org/show/582433/17:08
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mugsieso, have a look through the list and nominate patches17:09
mugsieI don thtink we have anything17:09
timsim9822121 Merge "Infoblox backend:Fixed sslverify value from option" ?17:09
mugsieoh17:09
mugsieyeah17:09
timsimProbably 102f1d2 Infoblox backend:Fixed sslverify value from option17:10
timsimnot the merge commit17:10
timsimbut yeah17:10
mugsie#action mugsie bp 102f1d2 Infoblox backend:Fixed sslverify value from option17:10
mugsiethat it ?17:10
timsimyeah I think so17:10
mugsie#topic Open Discussion17:10
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mugsieAny off agenda items ?17:11
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mugsieI have one17:11
timsimWho knows if they'll be at the summit?17:11
mugsiecan we get a list of topics for Barcelona ?17:11
mugsieif people think about it tyhis week17:11
mugsiewe can get them together for next week17:11
mugsieI am going17:11
mugsieand Kiall is as well afaik17:12
mugsiebut paying for myself :(17:12
timsimI should be there, but that's it right now -_-17:12
timsimfrom our side17:12
mugsie:/17:12
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mugsie3 trips to EU in a year too much?17:12
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timsimYeahhhh17:12
timsimThings are fluid. Things could change either way ;)17:13
mugsiewe also need to write the workshop, and talk :)17:13
timsimo ya lol17:13
mugsieI have an idea for the talk17:13
mugsieI will throw together an outline17:13
timsimcool cool17:14
timsimThat's it from me :)17:14
mugsieany thing else? or are we having the shortest meeting in a while?17:14
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federico3heh17:14
mugsieOK17:14
mugsie#endmeeting17:14
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amrith#startmeeting trove18:00
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peterstac\o18:00
songjiano/18:00
amrithhiya peter18:00
schango/18:00
amrithhi songjian18:00
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amrithhi simon18:00
peterstacHi amrith18:00
amrith#agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting18:00
amrithnot a lot on there today, should be quick (I hope)18:00
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pmalik😖/18:01
songjianhi,amrith18:01
amrithWhy is I can never see the things that pmalik types; are they some special funny characters?18:01
amrithlike, what's the character before "/"18:02
amrithhi songjian18:02
pmalikamrith Do you have Linux?18:02
amrithpeter, anyone else you expect from the northern front?18:02
mvandijkaliadil18:02
amrithpmalik, no, I'm all windoze all the time18:02
amrithsometimes DOS18:02
vgnbkro/18:02
amrithalso commodore 64; did you hear there is a new c64 emulator18:02
aliadilo/18:03
amrithok, let's get started18:03
peterstacamrith, I think we're all here18:03
amrithjohnma isn't here today it appears18:03
pmalikAh, that's it. Only Linux ppl can see it: http://www.alt-codes.net/smiley_alt_codes.php18:03
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dloio/18:03
amriththx pmalik I feel left out18:03
johnmao/18:03
amrith#topic Trove pulse update18:03
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amrithhi johnma18:03
amrith#link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJxNaoR3VVNS1Cpiz7U--1zyJRZ6ybMxzJoayrjdduo/edit?usp=sharing18:03
amrith#link https://gist.github.com/anonymous/adfddaeadd1e715cbc9a4aa64ef75a3a18:03
johnmahi amrith18:04
amriththe number of reviews fell off sharply (after we cut rc1)18:04
amrithhopefully we can keep the numbers up near 10018:04
amrithand work through the backlog18:04
amrithnot a whole lot else to add to that18:05
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amrithanyone have anything to add ...18:05
amrith#topic Newton release schedule18:06
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amrithso this week we have to release rc218:06
amrithI see only a couple of more things that must merge18:06
amrithhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/374202/18:06
amrithanything else peterstac ?18:07
peterstacThat's the only one I'm aware of18:07
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peterstacI did push up a change to turn off the eject-valid-master in the api tests18:07
johnmaI will approve that one.18:07
peterstacnot sure if that's worth pushing back too ...18:07
peterstac(since it doesn't hit that often)18:08
peterstacthx johnma18:08
peterstachere's the link18:08
peterstac#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374249/18:08
amrithpeterstac, sounds good18:09
amrithlet's get it into master18:09
amrithand then backport it18:09
peterstacok18:09
amrithI've +1'ed it. thx18:09
amrithwith that we should be ok with newton18:10
amriththe translations appear to have landed18:10
amrithI don't see any translation changes in rc218:10
amrithso we should be in good shape; no necessity to do an rc318:10
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peterstac(here's the cherry-pick to stable/newton: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374320 )18:10
amrithif anyone has anything else they feel should make it urgently into rc2, speak now ...18:10
amrithyes, that won't work for a stable branch18:11
amrithyou have to cp -x18:11
amrithso wait for master to merge18:11
amrithsorry18:11
amrithnewton is under stable/release team control now18:11
amrithpeterstac, ok?18:12
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peterstacnot sure what 'cp -x' means in the context of git/gerrit ...18:12
trevormccherry pick?18:12
amrithsee http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#proposing-fixes18:13
amrithpeterstack, cherry-pick -x18:13
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peterstacah, I just use the cherry-pick button in gerrit :)18:13
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trevormcsame18:14
amrithsorry mate ...18:14
peterstacyeah, seems to do that by default18:14
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peterstacah, but you have to wait until it merges first, got it, thx!18:15
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amrithyup18:15
amrithok, anyone have anything else for rc2 ...18:15
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songjianhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/372218/   if Peter commit can not backport to stable/newton,I have an new idea to avoid pylint error...maybe can try it with smallest change...18:15
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amrithsongjian, is this a real error?18:16
amrithI'm not sure18:16
peterstacno, it's an issue because postgresql is split into many files18:16
amrithI think _find_user may not exist in postgresql; pmalik would you confirm18:17
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peterstacthat's being fixed in18:17
peterstac#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346082/18:17
pmalikThis whole thing with _find_user is just an artifact of using mixins.18:17
peterstac(pylint flags it because one mixin class is calling a method in another mixin clasS)18:18
amriththat's what I thought18:18
amrithand I think this is a false positive from pylint18:18
songjiana code style error,it is not error,because we never create PgAccess object to perform...18:18
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pmalikThe method exist in the manager which iports all of them.18:18
amrithwould someone confirm that this is a false positive ...18:18
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amrithor not18:18
pmalikYes, this is a false-positive from pylint.18:19
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amrithand the issue is that we have two mixins and one mixin has a method calling a method in the other mixin18:19
peterstacI pretty sure it's a false positive, but someone else can always confirm it18:19
peterstacamrith, yes18:19
amrithbut at runtime the only class where all this executes is derived from both classes18:19
amrithso all is well at runtime18:19
peterstacright18:19
amrithis that right18:19
peterstacyes, correct18:19
amrithok, so I don't thnk we need the fix that songjian proposed18:20
amrithis that true?18:20
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peterstacyes, and with the change listed above to consolidate all the postgresql files, this will go away18:20
pmalikIt would only be a problem if somebody tried to use that one mixin in isolation, but that's not the case in the current codebase. The 'issue' goes away once we merge all mixins into a single module.18:20
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peterstacI think we're close the getting that one cleaned up properly18:20
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amrithpmalik, peterstac, I think the three of us are on the same page. songjian do you agree?18:21
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songjianok,thx all18:21
peterstacpmalik, you should run 'tox -epylint rebuild' on your change and make sure that it knocks out those exceptions18:21
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amrithpeterstac ++18:22
peterstac(and push up the resulting .config file as well :) )18:22
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amrithyes, commits that only reduce exceptions in the .config file are extra welcome18:22
pmalikok18:23
amrithif there's nothing more, let's move on18:23
amrith#topic Open Discussion18:23
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amrithI added three18:23
amrith#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/372448/18:23
amriththis was something I wanted to bring to everyones attention18:24
amrithat this point pylint is gating in both master and newton18:24
amriththx to peterstac for improving the tool and making the excludes file (hopefully) well ordered18:24
amrithconsistently ordered18:24
amriththat should make it easier for us to manage moving forward18:25
amrithif your job fails pylint, it won't merge.18:25
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amriththat's all I wanted to say, if anyone has questions about pylint, please feel free to ping me, or mariam or peter ... we've all used it a bit and should be able to help if you have problems.18:25
amrith#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/373153/18:26
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amrithI wanted to bring everyones attention to this blueprint and I'd like you to review it soon so we can land it early (very soon) in newton.18:26
amrithlike, the next couple of weeks.18:26
amrithif possible18:26
johnmasure18:27
amrithif you have questions or comments please either put them in the review or catch me on IRC18:27
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amrithor ... phone, email, come to my house, whatever works for you18:27
amrithand the last one18:27
amrith#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/373163/18:27
amrithwhich i want to ask about here18:27
amrithI'll wait till people read it over18:28
* amrith waits ... what do you think about this change?18:28
* trevormc had problems with redstack and am happy there is a change coming :)18:29
* peterstac is still reading ...18:29
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peterstacdo we want to stipulate what cases don't need a bug?18:30
peterstaci.e. trivial fixes, etc.?18:30
amrithpeterstac, I wanted to. but I found it hard to come up with something. what, for example, is trivial?18:30
peterstac(I know, who defines what is trivial ...)18:30
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mvandijkcan we get the models improvement merged?18:30
mvandijk#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236082/18:30
amrithsomeone thinks https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364631/ is trivial18:30
amrithis it trivial?18:31
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amrithmvandijk, one conversation at a time if we could please18:31
amrithpeterstac, I don't understand the bug. maybe it is non-trivial18:31
amrithtomorrow someone else comes along and says assertTrue() is better18:32
amrithwhat do we do, switch them all back?18:32
amrithtomorrow someone adds another assertTrue(p in q), what do we do? start a cottage industry of people doing these stylistic fixes?18:32
amrithI'm not sure what the right answer is18:32
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peterstactypically we've been averse to fixes like that that aren't enforced by pep8/flake818:33
amrithhence also my ML post this morning http://openstack.markmail.org/thread/hvgryw4kdxjugvuu18:33
peterstacsince as you said they almost immediately regress18:33
pmalikI'd suggest if anybody is interested they can propose an official hacking rule to openstack and if that gets accepted we can enable it and make a project to fix our codebase, but otherwise it is questionable...18:34
amrithpmalik, peterstac ++18:34
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pmalikYeah, it would be very difficult to keep them from getting back without a pep8 check...18:34
amrithbut, back to the original question, do we need a bug?18:35
amrithin launchpad18:35
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peterstacwell, we could leave it like you've written it and if anyone thinks that a bug is warranted and not supplied they can request one18:36
amrithpeterstac, playing devils advocate, would that request come with a -1?18:37
amriththis is the slippery slope18:37
amrithi'm leaning towards not having that be -1'able18:37
peterstacI think that would fall under the 'original request is a +0, but if others agree would get elevated to -1' list18:38
amrithafter all, I'm wondering in the world of reno, what the value is of a lp bug.18:38
vgnbkrDid lp bugs serve any purpose other than to keep track of which changes needed release notes?18:38
amrithexactly what vgnbkr said18:38
peterstacwell, it's also useful for triaging18:38
amrithbut do we triage?18:38
amrithbugs come in, changes appear (magically)18:38
amrithI think it is useful for non-developers to enter bugs18:38
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amrithbut I see no benefit for developers to enter bugs (other than that in my own case, I use it as a way to keep track of things I want to have fixed)18:39
amriththere are certainly those who may not see that value18:39
amrithall i'm saying is that I'm fine with fixes with no bug #18:39
vgnbkrIt would still be useful where a developer wished to log a bug that they don't immediately plan to fix themselves.18:41
amrithagreed18:41
amrithbut that's not a change review conversation, is it?18:41
trevormcHow about this, if a developer wants to make a change. First they report a bug, then it must be confirmed before they make a change?18:42
trevormci could see how that could slow things down. Not sure if it adds value or not, just an idea.18:43
amriththat's a good idea, what do others think of the idea. it certainly isn't the way the rest of openstack works18:43
johnmaI think that slows down things even more for a developer18:44
vgnbkrDon't we already have enough of a momentum problem?18:44
amrithvgnbkr, when you put it that way, it sounds like a bad idea :)18:44
johnmaI am sure there are atleast some folks who may feel frustrated with the pace at which changes are getting merged18:45
amrithand it would be another speed bump for changes18:45
amrithI see other projects doing fine with out bug #'s18:45
trevormccreating bugs just seems like busy work to me.18:45
amrithif no one objects to this proposal, let's get it reviewed and merged so we can start living by it ...18:46
amrithand with that, I'll pass the baton over to mvandijk who had something he wanted us to talk about.18:46
amrithmvandijk ...18:46
amrith#action [all] review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/373163/18:46
mvandijkCan we get reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236082/ ?18:46
mvandijki guess i should explain18:47
mvandijkthe datastore models are all in one file18:47
mvandijkthese models being users and schemas18:47
amrithit seems to fail all the non voting experimental jobs (almost all).18:47
mvandijkwe use them for validation of the objects coming in18:48
mvandijkso the problem is that client calls coming in all get validated against mysql models18:48
mvandijkwhich isn't right18:48
mvandijkand we want to move away from that into validating requests based on the datastore of the target instance18:49
mvandijkthis is step #1 toward that18:49
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peterstacmvandijk, I'll take a look at it this week18:49
mvandijkonce this goes in we can load the models used to check client requests based on the datastore type18:49
mvandijkplease do18:49
mvandijkit has been up 11 months18:49
mvandijkthanks18:49
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amrithmvandijk, I will review as well18:50
johnmaI will also look at this mvandijk.18:51
amrithwill this change improve the experimental jobs failure rate?18:51
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mvandijkprobably not on its own no18:52
amrithok, will review this week. looks like a medium sized change18:52
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pmalikNot on its own. Many experimental jobs fail because of constrained gate resources...18:53
amrithwill aim to get it reviewed and ifpossible merged18:53
amrithok18:53
amrithanything else ...18:53
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peterstacnothing here18:56
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amrithjohnma, vgnbkr, trevormc, mvandijk, pmalik (anyone else I missed)18:57
songjiannothing here...18:58
amriththx songjian18:58
amrithsounds like we're almost out of time anyway18:58
amriththanks all18:58
amrith#endmeeting18:58
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johnsom#startmeeting Octavia20:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep 21 20:00:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'octavia'20:00
sbalukoffGreetings, y'all!20:00
johnsomHi folks20:00
johnsomWow, just us today??  haha20:00
sbalukoffHeh!20:00
sbalukoffShort meeting, then.20:00
johnsom#topic Announcements20:01
*** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)"20:01
sbalukoffWhat day do you intend to cut the Newton release?20:01
nmagnezisbalukoff, me too :)20:01
johnsomI hope to cut our Newton release early next week.  I am tentatively targeting Monday pending our bug fix situation.20:01
sbalukoffSounds good.20:01
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TrevorVo/20:01
sbalukoffMy weekend plans got disrupted, which means I'm actually mostly free this weekend. So if people need me to do last-minute reviews, I should be able to.20:02
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johnsomI think I have everything figured out with the new release process, so we should be good there.20:02
Fritoo/20:02
sbalukoffAwesome!20:02
johnsom#topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review20:02
*** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports / bugs needing review (Meeting topic: Octavia)"20:02
sbalukoffThanks for merging the L7 docs.20:02
sbalukoffWould love to finally finish this one off this week:20:03
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sbalukoff#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232173/20:03
johnsomSo I have been working on fixing our reverts situation.  I hope to have that done today, but it might slip into tomorrow.20:03
ptoohillo/20:03
sbalukoffOtherwise, I was pulled into some internal stuff for a good portion of the last week. Hoping to get a basic cookbook out in the next day or so.20:03
johnsomAfter that there is still one more bug I want to get fixed around the ability to delete objects in ERROR state.20:03
xgermano/20:03
sbalukoffYeah, those both seem like really good bugfixes to get in for Newton20:04
johnsomI think that is the last two bugs we might be able to land for Newton.20:04
nmagnezio/20:04
sbalukoffI suspect you're right.20:04
johnsomYep.20:04
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johnsomAny other updates?  I know ptoohill just got our first Octavia native scenario test going, so cheers to that!20:04
sbalukoffWoot!20:05
sbalukoffThat's great!20:05
ptoohillIndeed!20:05
ptoohillI am curious if that's the right fix though20:05
ptoohillim not sure of another way, the sec group should be fine20:05
johnsomI think there has been some good work on Quotas for the merge as well.  Thanks TrevorV20:05
TrevorVYeah, the review is really close to done20:06
sbalukoffptoohill: I will probably concentrate on getting this doc done and johnsom's bugfixes reviewed for Newton for the next few days. will jump into reviewing the scenario test after Newton is cut, eh.20:06
TrevorVSorry, still fighting with ATT for my network access, a little side-tracked20:06
ptoohilland Ill pull those update into its own patch for review/tracking20:06
johnsomYeah, that was interesting.  On xenial the o-hm0 interface, the health packages were getting blocked by iptables20:06
ptoohillsbalukoff: That works20:06
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ptoohill:/20:06
johnsomOk, any other updates?20:07
johnsom#topic Translation for Octavia20:07
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sbalukoffOh boy! Translation?20:07
sbalukoffHmmm... not sure what's involved with that.20:08
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johnsomSo I had a few topics I wanted to bring up.  I had hoped that Doug was going to be here, but he let me know he can't make it today.20:08
* xgerman perks up20:08
sbalukoffD'oh.20:08
johnsomYeah, so I noticed that neutron-lbaas has the translation gates.  I expect we need to get that going for Octavia as part of the merge activities.20:08
sbalukoffOh, ok.20:08
sbalukoffSo... just add it to the list?20:09
johnsomSo, I wanted to get started figuring that out....20:09
johnsomYeah, I will ping Doug later and see if he has any wisdom to impart....20:09
sbalukoffOk.20:09
johnsomI know we are tagging stuff, I just need to figure out the next steps.20:09
nmagnezijohnsom, when is that merge going to take place?20:09
nmagnezijohnsom, also, any help needed with this?20:10
johnsomnmagnezi We are hoping to pull it off in the Ocata cycle20:10
sbalukoffYep.20:10
sbalukoffAnd yes, we could use help!20:10
johnsomnmagnezi Oh yes, help would be great!20:10
nmagnezicount me in :)20:10
ptoohill:P20:10
johnsom#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bugs?field.tag=lbaas-merge20:10
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* nmagnezi looks20:11
johnsomI am tracking merge related activities at that link.  I may fire up launchpad for this too, but that will be in a few weeks.20:11
johnsomWork has started on some items, so that is good.20:11
sbalukoffYep. I'm looking forward to merging diltram's keystone patch, for example.20:12
johnsomYes, good stuff there.20:12
johnsom#topic Debian package build job for Octavia20:13
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johnsomThe other topic I wanted to raise with Doug and you folks is packaging.  I see that there are deb jobs in for neutron-lbaas.  We need to make sure we have our packaging going as well.20:13
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perelmanhi all20:14
sbalukoffOk. I'm guessing the RedHat folks would like to see a RHEL version of the same. But... I'm also of the opinion they need to set that up. ;)20:14
sbalukoffHowdy, Lera!20:14
johnsomWe are packaged on pypi, but I expect we need to get into the distros too.20:14
johnsomYep.20:15
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johnsomAnyway I will also follow up with Doug on the process to get that setup.  I was a bit surprised to see the deb stuff in project-config....20:15
sbalukoffIn any case, this is another thing to add to the merge list.20:15
johnsomYep20:15
johnsom#topic Open Discussion20:16
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johnsomThat is all I had on the agenda for today.  Any other topics to bring up?20:16
nmagneziyup20:16
nmagnezi#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346728/20:17
nmagnezii would love to get some traffic for this one20:17
perelmanjust wanted to update you that we are uploading patches for Active-Active LB to gerrit. and20:17
perelmani have removed WIP from the first changes and they already pass all the tests :)20:17
nmagnezii'm resolving merge conflicts for few weeks now to keep it in good shape for review20:17
nmagnezibut so far, no reviews20:17
perelmanSo any code reviews are welcome :)20:17
sbalukoffnmagnezi: I'll have a look after Newton release is cut.20:17
sbalukoffperelman: That's great!20:18
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perelmanthanks!!!20:18
nmagnezisbalukoff, thanks! this patch is a prep work for supporting non-ubuntu distros for amphora instances20:19
johnsomYeah, we should start getting those things going right after the release.20:19
johnsomnmagnezi Nice!20:19
sbalukoffSo, just be aware that with the release being cut early next week, anything non-release related is likely to get pushed back.20:19
sbalukoffYou know... priorities and all that.20:19
TrevorVExcited to see new amp distros!  Nice!20:19
johnsomYes, but right after that, game on!20:19
sbalukoff(It'll be nice to be able to "freely" merge stuff again...)20:20
TrevorVsbalukoff, not too freely... amirite?20:20
nmagnezisbalukoff, sure :-) i'm not expecting much before the release.. just want to get some traffic for this patch in general :)20:20
* TrevorV shakes finger20:20
sbalukoffTrevorV: Especially not for you.20:20
* TrevorV cries20:20
johnsomHahaa20:20
nmagnezi#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317862/20:20
* johnsom thinks the quotas patch just went to the back of the line....20:20
* TrevorV cries harder20:20
nmagnezithis one already has +2 from doug, any chance to merge before the cut?20:21
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FritoTrevorV: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/random-ness/images/9/9a/Cry_some_more.jpg/revision/latest?cb=2012040917280320:21
johnsomnmagnezi Yes, I don't think that would be a problem to get in.20:22
nmagnezijohnsom, great!20:22
johnsomOk, any other topics?20:22
nmagnezijohnsom, nop20:23
sbalukoffThanks folks!20:23
johnsomOk, thank you folks for the push here for Newton.  We hammered out a lot of bugs20:23
johnsom#endmeeting20:24
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Fritoadios!20:24
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perelmanbye bye20:25
TrevorV\o20:26
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xgermano\20:26
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