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devkulkarni#startmeeting Solum Team Meeting14:00
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devkulkarni#topic Roll Call14:00
devkulkarniDev Kulkarni14:00
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zhurongZhu Rong14:01
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Abluhi14:01
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devkulkarniawesome.. we have majority, so lets get started14:01
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devkulkarniI haven't prepared an agenda, but here are the main things that I want to cover today14:02
devkulkarni1) Updates on Barcelona preparations14:02
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devkulkarni2) Meeting next week14:02
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devkulkarni3) Gate issues14:02
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devkulkarniLets start with Barcelona updates14:03
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devkulkarniThanks to you all - zhurong, caowei, Ablu - we have screencasts demonstrating various features of Solum14:04
devkulkarniI have given you feedback already.. Today is the day when I am planning to stitch together all the videos into a coherent storyline14:04
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devkulkarniso if you are working on the videos, which I know Ablu you are, if you can finish them in next 4/5 hours, that would be awesome.14:05
devkulkarnizhurong: about your video, I was wondering if there is a way for you to upload it again without loosing the video quality? when I downloaded it from gdrive, the picture looked grainy14:06
devkulkarnizhurong: you don't have to capture the video, just upload it again in higher resolution if possible14:07
zhurongwhat the size of the video?14:08
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devkulkarnizhurong: will check and let you know after the meeting14:08
zhurongthe original is 16M14:09
devkulkarniok, I will check the size14:09
devkulkarniapart from the demo video, there is the presentation14:09
devkulkarniI will be putting that together today as well14:10
devkulkarnizhurong will be presenting it on Thursday next week during our fishbowl session14:10
devkulkarnihttps://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/16988/solum-tbd14:11
devkulkarniI will be updating the Event details soon14:12
devkulkarniApart from our fishbowl session, there are two other sessions that are important14:12
devkulkarnione is by the release team discussing openstack release models, what is required as part of a release, etc.14:13
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devkulkarnianother is the ocata goal of removing incubated oslo libraries14:13
devkulkarnizhurong has agreed to attend these as well14:14
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devkulkarnizhurong: thanks a lot for doing this. you can update us about these discussions after the summit14:14
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zhurongsure,  My pleasure14:15
devkulkarnijust curious, apart from these things relevant to solum, which are talks are you going to attend zhurong? there will be lot of interesting talks14:15
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zhurongI haven't decided yet14:17
vijendar1It's nice that at least a core from solum is attending the summit14:17
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devkulkarniok14:17
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devkulkarni+1 vijendar114:17
devkulkarniagree14:18
zhurongThose days is so busy with company business, so I haven't have much time to check the seesions14:18
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devkulkarnizhurong: yes, I can understand14:18
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devkulkarniyou will get some time once you reach Barcelona and settle in your hotel room14:18
vijendar1by the way, thanks zhurong for taking some time to present solum stuff at summit14:18
devkulkarnithen you can go through the schedule and pick interesting talks/presentations for you to attend14:19
zhurongYour are welcome vijendar1 :D14:19
devkulkarnianything else on this topic?14:20
zhurongyep, We are arrived there, have one day to go through all the schedule14:20
devkulkarniyep14:20
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devkulkarniso the action items are for me to provide the video and presentation to zhurong as soon as possible14:20
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devkulkarniand Ablu to send the latest screen cast capture whenever you are done14:21
devkulkarniSecond item on agenda is:14:21
devkulkarni2) Next week's meeting14:21
devkulkarniTraditionally, we have been canceling the meeting in week of the summit14:22
devkulkarniWe can do that this time too unless any of you have any objections14:22
devkulkarniI will be available on solum channel if we want to discuss anything14:23
zhurongcool14:23
devkulkarnithoughts?14:23
Ablusounds good14:24
AbluI am cutting the video now14:24
devkulkarniAblu: nice!!14:24
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devkulkarniok so lets cancel next weeks meeting and then reconnect on Wednesday after next week14:25
devkulkarni#agreed Cancel weekly irc meeting in the week of Barcelona summit14:25
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zhurong+114:25
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devkulkarniThird item on agenda today is about gate issues for solum repo14:26
devkulkarniIf you look at our patches https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/solum+status:open,n,z14:26
devkulkarnithere are many patches that are in 'Submitted, Merge Pending' state14:26
devkulkarnizhurong was looking at it today14:26
devkulkarnizhurong: can you update the team on what you found14:27
zhurongI asked with aj for this, he told me rebase the oldest patch, then will be merge14:28
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zhurongbut seems not work14:28
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devkulkarnizhurong: so the oldest patch seems to be this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385955/14:28
devkulkarnithat has not been rebased14:29
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zhuronghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/384198/14:30
zhurongThis one is the oldest patch14:30
devkulkarnihmm strange, when I try to rebase it through the gerrit dashboard, it does not provide that option14:30
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devkulkarniso we need to follow up with aj again I guess14:31
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zhurongYep, agree with this14:32
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devkulkarniok, lets try to do that. zhurong, if you can find him in next couple of days, can you ping him again? otherwise, we will take this up after the summit14:33
zhurongI will do this in  next couple of days14:34
zhuronghope to solve this ASAP14:35
devkulkarnisounds great14:35
devkulkarnibtw, saw your patches for getting rid of incubated oslo packages from python-solumclient14:35
devkulkarninice!14:36
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devkulkarnisolum-dashboard is not an issue14:37
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devkulkarniso once we have python-solumclient taken care of, we would have satisfied the ocata goal of removing incubated oslo packages from within our code14:37
zhurongyep14:38
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devkulkarnialright, so those were the main topics I wanted to discuss today14:39
devkulkarniare there any topics/questions that you have on your mind? we can discuss them.. we have about 20 minutes available..14:39
zhurongnothing from my sider14:41
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caoweiMe too.14:41
devkulkarniAblu, caowei, vijendar1: how about you?14:41
caoweinothing14:41
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devkulkarnizhurong, caowei: ack14:42
devkulkarniwill wait for another minute to hear from Ablu and vijendar114:42
vijendar1nothing from me14:43
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devkulkarnizhurong: this one seems interesting14:44
devkulkarnihttps://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/15597/networking-approaches-in-a-container-world14:44
devkulkarnivijendar1: ack14:44
Ablusounds good to me14:44
devkulkarnilooks like Ablu is busy cutting the video14:44
devkulkarniack Ablu14:45
devkulkarnialright then.. lets meet again in two weeks14:45
AbluSomehow I need to get a better IRC client...14:45
AbluChome notifications are so subtle...14:45
Ablu*Chrome14:45
devkulkarniby then, zhurong would have attended the summit and would have done Solum fishbowl session14:45
devkulkarnigood luck zhurong for the summit.. it will be an awesome experience14:46
zhurongThanks devkulkarni14:46
Abluzhurong: have fun!14:46
devkulkarnizhurong: take pictures and share with us afterwards :)14:46
zhurongI will :D14:46
devkulkarniespecially of the solum session :)14:47
caoweizhurong: waiting for sharing.14:47
devkulkarnihopefully there will be audience.. in Austin summit we had about 30 folks for the session14:47
devkulkarnialright14:47
devkulkarnithanks zhurong, caowei, vijendar1, Ablu for joining today14:48
Abluthanks for hosting14:48
devkulkarnisee you in two weeks for the meeting14:48
devkulkarni#endmeeting14:48
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haleybhi, is there anyone here for the dvr meeting?  swami can't make it so i need someone else to talk to :15:01
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jschwarzhaleyb: hello there :)15:03
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haleybjschwarz: hi, i'll start the meeting up at least :)15:03
haleyb#startmeeting neutron_dvr15:04
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct 19 15:04:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:04
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* jschwarz likes meetings, apparentely 15:04
haleyb#topic Announcements15:04
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haleybno swami today15:04
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haleybother than that, get your dvr patches in :)15:05
haleyb#topic Bugs15:05
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haleyblooks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1633042 is the only new bug15:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1633042 in neutron "L3 scheduler: make RouterL3AgentBinding always concurrently safe" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to John Schwarz (jschwarz)15:06
jschwarzaye15:06
jschwarzI have a patch for that, let me look15:07
jschwarzhaleyb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/365326/15:07
jschwarzsurprisingly, it needs reviews :)15:07
haleybjschwarz: thanks, i will add myself15:08
jschwarzhaleyb: I was sure I already added you.. oh well :)15:09
haleyboh, there i am15:09
jschwarzah yes15:09
jschwarzother than that we have https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1633306 which is an HA bug15:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1633306 in neutron "Partial HA network causing HA router creation failed (race conditon)" [Undecided,Invalid]15:09
jschwarzbut as I commented multiple times, I don't think it's reproducible since they are using non-current versions of stable/mitaka IMO15:10
haleyband i see that was just closed15:10
jschwarzI'm giving it a few days before it will be reopened ;-)15:10
jschwarzthat's all for bugs from me this week15:11
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haleybok, i will just cover a few in progress15:11
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haleybhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/163151315:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1631513 in neutron "DVR: Fix race conditions when trying to add default gateway for fip gateway port." [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley)15:12
haleybi have an update for that to get out, and it needs some additional work after internal testing15:12
haleybhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/163254015:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1632540 in neutron "l3-agent print the ERROR log in l3 log file continuously ,finally fill file space,leading to crash the l3-agent service" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to zhichao zhu (rtmdk)15:12
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haleybthere wasn't much info in that to reproduce, current patch just ignores real problem, hoping rtmdk can help some more15:13
haleybhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/150656715:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1506567 in neutron "No information from Neutron Metering agent" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan)15:13
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haleybi owe swami more reviews on this15:14
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haleybthat's all i had15:14
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haleybjschwarz: did you have a pointer to the infra change for multi-node HA testing?  i remember anilvenkata was working on that but there isn't a link from the dvr meeting page15:15
jschwarzhaleyb: yeps15:15
jschwarzhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/383827/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/383742/15:15
anilvenkatajschwarz, thanks John15:16
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anilvenkatahaleyb, need reviews for them15:16
haleybanilvenkata: i'll add myself15:17
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anilvenkatahaleyb, thanks Brian15:17
haleybmy "openstack time" has been decreasing a little, but I'm trying to keep up with the reviews15:18
jschwarzhaleyb: sad to hear that :<15:19
jschwarzhaleyb: also a lot of vacations this month in Israel so I'm also a bit out of action15:19
haleyband there's that summit thing next week...15:19
anilvenkatahaleyb, yes, sad to hear that15:20
haleybi'll jump ahead...15:20
haleyb#topic Open Discussion15:20
anilvenkatahaleyb, might be busy with summit preparation, right?15:20
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haleybi will not be at summit, but do have a short talk that john davidge will be giving on service subnets, so i do have to prep for that15:21
jschwarzhaleyb: :<15:21
haleybSo I guess as an announcement we will not have a meeting the next two weeks, just like the neutron ones15:22
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haleybjschwarz: i thought of starting to row across the atlantic, but i might not make it in time15:22
jschwarzhaleyb: I heard you could rent a sit on something called "a plane"15:23
jschwarzhaleyb: it will get you there faster15:23
jschwarz:)15:23
haleybyes, it would have been nice to get to barcelona, i'd only been to southern spain previously15:24
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jschwarzhaleyb: maybe next time15:25
haleybboston is *really* close :)15:25
jschwarzhaleyb: looks like I'll need to get drunk at the social alone this time around ;-)15:25
anilvenkatajschwarz, :)15:25
anilvenkatahaleyb, will be missing u in summit15:25
haleybjschwarz: yes, enjoy the summit, i'll be lurking on the etherpads :)15:26
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haleybanything else for open discussion, or should i make some more snarky remarks?15:27
jschwarzhaleyb: snarky remarks!15:28
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* haleyb looks in the snarkbag and sees it's pretty empty :)15:29
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haleyb#topic Gate failures15:29
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haleybmost of the neutron gate jobs were failing until just recently, so not much to talk about there15:30
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haleybi do see the check queue dvr jobs are failing but sometimes that's just bad patches (snarky), i just don't have time to investigate unless something is truly broken15:31
haleybif there's nothing else i'll just end this early15:32
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haleybi'm actually supposed to be in another meeting right now, so will call it15:33
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haleybjschwarz, anilvenkata enjoy summit!15:33
anilvenkatahaleyb, thanks Brian15:33
jschwarzhaleyb: enjoy the weekend mate15:33
haleybthanks, it will be starting early this week :)15:34
jschwarzthat's always good15:34
haleyb#endmeeting15:34
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rkukurahi ML2’ers!16:00
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rkukurahi andreas_s!16:01
rkukurawho else is here for ML2?16:01
andreas_shi16:01
SukhdevHello16:01
rkukurahopefully a few more are lurking, but lets get going16:03
rkukura#startmeeting networking_ml216:03
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rkukura#topic Agenda16:03
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rkukura#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_October_19.2C_201616:03
rkukuraAnything to add?16:03
rkukura#topic Announcements16:04
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rkukuraSummit is next week in Barcelona, so no ML2 IRC meeting16:04
rkukuraI will not be there :(16:05
andreas_sI'll be there16:05
rkukuraSukhdev, did you finalize your plans?16:05
Sukhdevyes - I will be there16:05
rkukuragreat16:05
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rkukuraany other announcements?16:06
Sukhdevandreas_s : we should hook up there16:06
andreas_snice!16:06
andreas_sSukhdev, yes16:06
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rkukura#topic Ocata Planning16:06
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rkukuraGiven that the summit is next week, and Ocata development is underway, what should we try to accomplish with ML2?16:08
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rkukuracertainly the live migration support is on the list, right?16:08
andreas_syes, that one got more and more attention on neutron and nova side16:09
andreas_sit's also the main discussion point at the nova-neutron design session16:09
rkukuraI skimmed through last week’s ML2 IRC meeting minutes on that, but have not otherwise been tracking the discussion or proposals16:09
rkukuraSeems like the right points are being brought up (various use cases, compatability with nova and with ML2 drivers, etc.)16:10
rkukuraAre those of you going to Barcelona prepared to try to get agreement on how to move forward?16:11
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andreas_syes, I think so16:12
rkukuraso what else do we want to accomplish with ML2 in Ocata?16:13
Sukhdevrkukura : can you summarize these on the wiki or etherpad16:13
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Sukhdevso, that others have access to the list16:13
rkukuraSukhdev: What do you want me to summarize?16:13
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Sukhdevlist of the potential topics16:14
rkukurawe’ve had a list from previous releases, which we could reconsider16:14
Sukhdevrkukura : do you still have it somewhere16:15
cabouchaI'll be at summit and would like to discuss various VXLAN topics16:15
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rkukuraabout the only think I’m personally considering driving is to update the ML2 MD and ED APIs to conisistently cover all the resources that have been added to neutron16:16
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Sukhdevcaboucha : can you eloborate on what specifically16:16
cabouchaWith my driver, I'd like to configure VXLAN overlay with the switch.  There are issues in regards to exceeding 4K vlans since there is only one vlan configured per network.16:17
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cabouchasame vlan actually can be configured on various switches but different vni segments.16:17
Sukhdevcaboucha : you are not talking about HPB16:18
cabouchaAlso  has anyone attempted to implement VXLAN BGP-EVPN.16:18
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cabouchaHPB - hierarchical port binding?16:18
Sukhdevcaboucha : yes16:19
cabouchaI don't believe so.  Perhaps I can sync up with you at the summit.16:19
Sukhdevcaboucha : yes - Arista, Juniper16:19
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cabouchaIf it were HPB, I would have thought my long time openstack peers would have suggested it.16:20
cabouchaI'll look into it ahead of our discussion.16:20
Sukhdevcaboucha : i do not follow your use case of same VLAN on different VNIs -16:21
Sukhdevcaboucha : does the same VLAN represent the same neutron network?16:21
rkukuracaboucha: The main use case for HPB is to allow different switches (or switch ports) independently map the same VXLANs to different (or none at all) VLANs16:22
Sukhdevcaboucha : if your need is to support >4k VLANs - HPB is for you :-)16:22
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cabouchaYes rkukura that's what I'm trying to solve16:22
cabouchaTHANK YOU ALL.  I'll google the rest.16:23
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Sukhdevcaboucha : come talk to me in Barcelona - we can help you with it16:23
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cabouchaMuch appreciated!16:23
Sukhdevcaboucha : there will be Arista folks who are experts on this subject, who just implemented it - I will introduce them to you16:24
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rkukuracaboucha: There certainly could be followup work needed on HPB if it isn’t suitable for your use case16:24
Sukhdevcaboucha : and rkukura is the author of this16:24
cabouchasounds good16:24
Sukhdevcaboucha : so, you are in the right company :-):-)16:24
cabouchaSounds like it.16:25
cabouchaI should meet at the usual neutron gathering for ML2 folks?16:25
rkukuracaboucha: Hopefully Sukhdev will coordinate something for the “unplugged” session, assuming that works similarly to previous summits. I will not be in Barcelona.16:26
rkukuraSo from last summit, some of the ideas for ML2 are in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-neutron-summit-ideas16:27
andreas_soh wow, what a list16:27
Sukhdevrkukura : I have been busy with change of employer - did not spend much time going through the etherpad16:27
rkukuraI’m not even sure what process is being used this round16:28
Sukhdevrkukura : that is older list - did you mean to post the one for Ocata?16:28
rkukuraI haven’t seen one for Ocata, but I’m sure it exists16:29
andreas_s#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-neutron-server-next16:29
andreas_s^Neutron server16:30
andreas_s#link  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-neutron-agents16:30
andreas_s^ Neutron agents16:30
rkukurathanks andreas_s!16:30
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rkukuraI’m not seeing anything really specific to the ML2 plugin in those, except maybe the bit about dropping the l2pop MD16:32
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rkukuraOne topic to think about might be the impact of OVO on ML216:32
Sukhdevrkukura : I just posted a comment on the ether pad regarding dropping of L2Pop16:34
rkukuraI see16:34
Sukhdevrkukura : OVO - what is the full form (pardon my ignorance)16:35
rkukuraAny thoughts on OVOifying ML2?16:35
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rkukuraoslo versioned objects16:35
Sukhdevthanks16:35
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andreas_sI guess they already started the turn the port object into an ovo16:36
andreas_shttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/351368/16:37
rkukuraSince much of my focus is on GBP, which is still based on mitaka, I’m not all that familiar with what has been done with OVO in Newton16:37
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Sukhdevandreas_s:  It seems those ehterpads are not the complete list of neutron topics - those are just two specific topics16:38
andreas_sSukhdev, yes16:38
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andreas_sSukhdev, this is the whole list: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Ocata/Etherpads#Neutron16:38
Sukhdevandreas_s : ah - thanks - that is what I was looking for16:39
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Sukhdev#link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Ocata/Etherpads#Neutron16:39
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rkukuradid trunk ports get completed during Newton?16:40
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andreas_sI don't know, haven't followed that up16:44
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rkukuraSukhdev, andreas_s: Please report back if there are any discussions regarding incorporating the versioned objects into the ML2 APIs. One idea would be to pass these as part of the Context objects, allowing drivers to use use the versioned objects in place of the attribute dictionaries.16:45
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Sukhdevrkukura : will do16:46
rkukurathanks16:46
rkukuraanything else on the “Ocata Planning” topic for today?16:46
andreas_sno16:47
rkukuraSukhdev: anything from you?16:47
Sukhdevno really16:47
sshankrkukura, I am currently working on incorporating versioned objects here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382037/ . Please have a look when free.16:47
rkukura#topic Bugs/RFEs16:48
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rkukurasshank: thanks!16:49
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rkukuraanything new to discuss on Bugs/RFEs?16:50
rkukuraI expect progress will be made on live migration next week, so we can have an update here the following week16:50
andreas_sno, just FYI, I continued the work on the nova-neutron live migration devref: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274097/16:51
andreas_syes, I think so, too16:51
andreas_sI'll probably not be available the week after the summit, but the week after that again16:51
Sukhdevandreas_s : I saw the etherpads for migration and posted my comments on them -16:51
andreas_sSukhdev, excellent, thanks!16:51
rkukura#topic Open Discussion16:52
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Sukhdevandreas_s  : have a look and let me know16:52
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andreas_sSukhdev, I'll do16:52
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rkukuraGiven andreas_s’s comment above, should we skip the week after the summit due to travel/recovery?16:52
Sukhdevrkukura : +116:53
rkukuraok16:53
rkukuraany other items to discuss?16:53
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rkukuraif not, lets wrap up16:54
rkukurahave a great summit, and enjoy Barcelona!!!16:54
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rkukurathanks!16:55
andreas_srkukura, thank you!16:55
andreas_sbye16:55
rkukura#endmeeting16:55
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amrithanybody here for the trove meeting?17:59
amrith#startmeeting trove17:59
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct 19 17:59:59 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is amrith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'trove'18:00
aliadil__o/18:00
mvandijkamrith: maybe not many18:00
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pmalik_😔/18:00
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amrithcourtesy ping to attendees peterstac johnma slicknik dougshelley66 pmalik vgnbkr mvandijk trevormc aliadil spilla songjian trevormc apsarshaik18:00
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amrithhello all, let's give mvandijk a couple of minutes to join us. he says all of him may not be here yet.18:01
johnma:)18:01
johnmahi amrith18:02
amrithhi johnma18:02
amrithand everyone else ... anybody know if peterstac is around; or is he airborne?18:02
mvandijkbirding18:02
amrith#agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting18:02
amrithok, let's get started in that case18:03
amrith#topic [amrith] publish list of ocata priorities18:03
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amriththis was my action item from last week18:03
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amrithplease see the link posted; which contains all of the priroities and the sessions for barcelona18:03
amriththe etherpad with all the major discussion topics is18:04
amrith#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-barcelona-ws-cm18:04
amrithwe have two fishbowls, three work sessions and a contributro meetup18:04
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amrithin addition there are several trove related talks which I've also listed there.18:05
amrithbut the specific link for this action item is https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-barcelona-ws-cm18:05
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amrithany questions about this?18:06
amrithit is an etherpad; so if there are priorities that you'd like to add to the Ocata list, please add them to that etherpad. whether you are at summit or not, we will try and discuss them.18:06
amrithif there's nothing else about this, I'll move along18:07
trevormcdowngrade schema I thought was already taken care of, is there more to it then that patch I uploaded?18:07
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trevormchttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/382676/18:08
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SlickNiko/18:08
trevormcremoving downgrade schema that is, this is referencing item #10 on trove-barcelona-ws-cm18:08
* amrith rubs eyes18:08
amrithdoes it say SlickNik?18:08
SlickNikIt does indeed!18:08
amrithhowdy18:09
dougshelley66hey SlickNik18:09
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SlickNikhi dougshelley6618:09
amrithtrevormc, that change isn't yet merged18:09
dougshelley66can you send us a video of the cartwheels18:10
trevormcgot it18:10
amrithand at the time when I put together the agenda it was still not done18:10
amrithdougshelley66, sure thing. for you, anything.18:10
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amrithanything else re: ocata priorities, agenda for summit, ...18:11
amrithdougshelley66, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OE_2RCW4dg18:11
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amrithok, moving along18:11
amrith#topic [amrith] Review status18:12
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amrith#link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJxNaoR3VVNS1Cpiz7U--1zyJRZ6ybMxzJoayrjdduo/edit?usp=sharing18:12
amrithas you can see we've had a small glitch in the data gathering18:12
amrithI will fix that after the meeting18:12
amrithas always, the request is that people spend some time doing reviews.18:13
amriththe count is not high enough to get things moving along at a good pace18:13
amrithand this is resulting in a backlog building up18:13
amrithi have little else to add to this.18:14
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amrithok, moving along18:15
amrith#topic [amrith] No more commits to trove-integration18:15
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amrith#link http://openstack.markmail.org/thread/gdnpnm65m5dluwuk18:15
amrithso, I'm working as hard as I can to get rid of trove-integration18:15
amrithand so, please resubmit any commits you may have against trove-integration for trove. At this time, the only notable ones that I can see are from pmalik_18:15
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amrithI'm reasonably close to being able to cut the jobs over from trove-integration to trove18:16
amriththat I'd like to get it done before I head out18:16
amriththen when we meet in BCN, we can discuss switching the CI jobs18:17
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amrithif you have questions about the whole thing, please see the email, or catch me on IRC, email, phone, ...18:17
amrithany questions?18:17
SlickNikYay, I'm going to have to open some bubbly when trove-integration finally goes away. :)18:18
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amriththat will be in pike (unfortunately)18:18
amrithI won't be able to justify moving it into trove on stable branches18:18
amrithI could try18:18
SlickNikThat makes sense.18:18
amrithbut I think the stable folks will cut up rough18:18
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amrithso for now, trove-integration; as it is, will be sticking around for mitaka, newton, and newton goes away when pike comes around18:19
amrithand then we can go bye-bye trove-integration18:19
amrithbut, if anyone wants to practice killing a repository, there is one that is due for killing shortly18:20
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amrithping me if you want to :)18:20
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amrithok, moving along then.18:20
amrith#topic  [amrith] (on behalf of Morgan) Review MultiRegion spec and change18:20
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amrithMorgan asked that I put this on the docket for today.18:21
amrithThe text that morgan provided is self explanatory18:21
amrith     The MultiRegion change should merge to lock in its slot in the SQLAlchemy migration. Unfortunately, the spec keeps going into Merge Conflict for some unknown reason, so it will need to be reviewed while in the Merge Conflict state. The code change has also been posted.18:21
amrith    https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294213/18:21
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dougshelley66so we don't know why it keeps going into merge conflict?18:21
amrithjohnma, SlickNik could we get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294213/ reviewed and approved and then the code merged.18:21
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amriththe code has been pushed up18:21
amrithand we don't know why this keeps landing in conflict18:22
johnmayes amrith. I will look at it today18:22
amrithI was going to look at it but haven't had time since last night18:22
SlickNik++ I'll plan on looking at the spec shortly.18:22
amriththx, if we can at least lock the sqlalchemy slot for now, that would be good18:22
amrithso we don't end up with a merge hell later18:22
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amrithI will look at it today as well; dougshelley66 could you review it as well please.18:23
dougshelley66ok18:23
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dougshelley66i will see if i can get it out of merge conflic18:23
amriththat would be great. thanks18:23
amrithit seemed like it should be an automatic merge18:23
amrithbut for some reason it is now sitting in conflict18:23
amrithI know not with what18:23
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amrithbut ...18:23
amrithwith that18:23
amrith#topic [amrith] No meeting next week (Summit in Barcelona)18:23
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amrithjust an announcement18:24
amrithI will update the etherpad18:24
amrithsorry, wiki18:24
amrithand indicate that we're skipping the meeting next week.18:24
amrithmany of us will be on IRC though18:24
amrithso if something urgent comes along, that may be the best way to find us18:24
amrithand with that ...18:24
amrith#topic Open Discussion18:24
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amrithanyone have anything they'd like to chat about ...18:25
songjianPlease help me take a look at this... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384175/, when you have time...18:26
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amrithsongjian, ok. did you see petr's comment?18:28
songjianok18:29
amrithSlickNik, johnma, dougshelley66 ... see conversation with matt in #openstack-trove18:29
songjianHave seen, ready to do,thx18:30
johnmayes, amrith was looking at it. I am not sure how it is used but will look18:30
amriththx johnma18:30
amrithif there's nothign else, let's wrap up and all use the half hour to do some reviews.18:30
amrith.18:31
amrith#endmeeting18:33
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amriththanks all18:33
amrithfor those coming to bcn, safe travels18:33
cp16netheyo18:33
johnmathanks amrith, wish you the same18:33
cp16netguess i was late to the party18:33
cp16net:-P18:33
johnmahi cp16net :)18:33
johnmayeah just got over18:33
cp16nethi johnma18:34
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amrithcp16net, never too late to party. come on over to #openstack-trove ...18:34
amriththat's 24x7 party18:34
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johnsom#startmeeting Octavia20:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct 19 20:00:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)"20:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'octavia'20:00
sbalukoffHello folks!20:00
johnsomHi there20:00
johnsomIt could be a light turnout today as some folks have said they can't make it20:00
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johnsom#topic Announcements20:00
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nmagnezihi all20:00
nmagnezio/20:01
johnsomWe have a design summit session, add any topics comments to the etherpad20:01
johnsom#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Neutron%3A+LBaaS+retrospective+and+next+steps20:01
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perelmananyone is here?20:01
johnsomAlso, we had some gate breakage yesterday20:01
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johnsom#link  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/345818/20:02
johnsomInfra is dropping projects from the "projects" list for devstack.  They started with diskimage-builder20:02
sbalukoffHe!20:02
johnsomThis is to save cloning repos I guess.20:02
sbalukoffheh!20:02
nmagnezijohnsom, sorry for that question but what is the meaning of this? the fact that they drop it from the list20:02
sbalukoffYeah; would have been nice if they checked that we were using it first.20:02
johnsomAnyway, I put a quick fix in yesterday for our gates, but it doesn't help folks adding us via the plugin20:03
dougwigit makes the underlying image build quicker, and the devstack jobs have to do more cloning from the mirrors.20:03
johnsomnmagnezi It means when we do a git clone of diskimage-builder during our devstack setup we get an error saying it's not an OpenStack project.20:03
johnsomSo, this is the start.  I guess over time they are going to pull more out.20:04
nmagnezigot it20:04
johnsomI am going to do some tests and probably update the patch for out devstack plugin.20:04
johnsomJust an FYI item in case someone was having trouble.20:04
johnsom#topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review20:04
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dougwigi18n/deb queries are out, waiting for replies.20:05
johnsomdougwig I think these need your blessing: https://review.openstack.org/388834 https://review.openstack.org/38624520:05
sbalukoffThere are a number of CRs in neutron-lbaas in particular that I put a +2 on a couple weeks ago that haven't seen any reviews.20:05
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johnsomOne is our functional job for Octavia, the other is the merge the jobs into one API test20:05
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perelmanI also have some strange problem in my change for distributor image creation that I wanted to ask you about20:06
johnsomOk, I will try to take a pass there soon20:06
dougwigsbalukoff: ok, will look20:06
johnsomMostly I have been focused on getting the gate stuff straightened out.  Our grafana dashboard is up now:20:07
sbalukoffDustin and I have been working on C10k optimizations for amphorae. We were able to get a test environment to reliably scale to 180k connections to a single amphora.20:07
johnsom#link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/octavia-failure-rates20:07
sbalukoffAnd there will be 1 or 2 more patches related to that. (The only one not up for review is a documentation patch I'm working on talking about "high performance Octavia")20:07
johnsomsbalukoff That is pretty darn cool.20:07
johnsomMore than I thought we would handle with one amp20:07
sbalukoffWell, we had to beef up the amphora's RAM. XD20:08
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sbalukoffOn that note-- I now have a good use case for why we might want amphorae to survive a reboot.20:08
johnsomperelman We can address the image questions in open discussion if that is ok20:08
sbalukoffBecause resizing an amphora in place ends up looking a lot like a reboot.20:08
johnsomsbalukoff Ugh, you are killing me.  You just convinced me to give up on that.....20:09
perelmanwhile building distributor image we try to clone ovs (git clone https://github.com/openvswitch/ovs.git /opt/ovs-install)20:09
sbalukoffjohnsom: Well, yes-- because nobody could come up with a good use case on that. But... now we have one. :P20:09
perelmanand it fails on gerrit tests with - connection timeout to server20:09
sbalukoffGranted, there are other ways to go about it if you want single instances to scale.20:09
sbalukoffBut... you know me: I am prone to change my position on something when new information comes to light. :P20:10
* johnsom coughs multi-processes of haproxy20:10
sbalukoffHaha!20:10
perelmansorry, i type too slowly and while typing dont see your requests :(20:10
sbalukoffWell, yes-- I saw the light on that too and changed my position. Now... somebody just needs to do the work. :P20:11
johnsomSigh, yes.  So, any thoughts on the cert stuff in light of the reboot need?20:12
sbalukoffWell... a couple.20:12
johnsomIs it a graceful reboot ?20:12
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sbalukoffIt would be great if the amphora could send a signal to the controller (one of its various components) that it needs certs if it doesn't find them. And this would trigger a push to the amphora.20:13
sbalukoffWe might be able to piggy-back that on to the existing health check.20:13
johnsomYeah, I don't really want to open another port, etc.20:13
johnsomHmm20:13
johnsomOk, any other progress to talk about?20:14
sbalukoffJust a flag that says "I have all the certs I need" or not.20:14
johnsom#topic Open Discussion20:14
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perelmanhi20:15
perelmanso lets return to my question20:15
johnsomperelman Hi.  I hope my comments have made sense on the act/act patches.20:15
johnsomSo this clone is in the element?20:15
perelmanin patch for building distributor image #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327137/33/elements/openvswitch-octavia/install.d/77-run_setup_install20:15
perelmanwe run command git clone https://github.com/openvswitch/ovs.git /opt/ovs-install20:15
perelmanand fail with connection to server timeout20:16
johnsomYeah, that probably isn't going to work.20:16
perelmanin our local machines it passes fast20:16
johnsomIt will need to be in here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327137/33/elements/distributor-agent/source-repository-distributor-agent20:16
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johnsomTake a look at the docs here:20:17
johnsom#link https://github.com/openstack/diskimage-builder/tree/master/elements/source-repositories20:17
nmagneziwhen you finish with perelman's topic i would like to raise something20:17
perelmanjohnsom, I am trying to go over all the comments but in the last week we had holidays and also some deadline in other project, so only tomorrow i return to A/A with full gas :(20:17
johnsomCool.20:18
perelmanthank you very much for the reviews!20:18
johnsomDarn, I forgot a topic.  Meeting schedule for the next two weeks.20:18
johnsomMost of us will be at the summit next week, so I expect to cancel that meeting.20:18
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sbalukoffWe can do it after open discussion.20:18
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sbalukoffYep, that seems reasonable-- we'll be meeting in person, eh!20:19
johnsomThe week after I am vacationing in Barcelona, so we can cancel it as well or someone else can host.20:19
perelmanok, I will see the document20:19
sbalukoffI'm also vacationing the following week.20:19
johnsomMost folks are...  It sounds like we should cancel that one as well.20:20
johnsomI will send a note to the mailing list.20:20
sbalukoffSounds good!20:20
nmagneziso the next meeting is in 3 weeks?20:20
johnsomperelman Give that a try, if not, leave me a message in the IRC channel and I will have a look20:20
johnsomnmagnezi Yes, November 9th.20:21
nmagneziack20:21
johnsomperelman nmagnezi are either of you coming to the summit?20:21
perelmanjohnson, OK, thank you very much!20:21
johnsomnmagnezi I think you had a topic20:22
perelmanno, i think i cant.. we have some urgent deadline20:22
nmagnezijohnsom, not, I can't travel this time20:22
nmagnezijohnsom, yes20:22
nmagneziso, the another topic for the open discussion topic i would like to raise are two patches that wait for a second +2 (sbalukoff mentioned earlier that some patches are pending reviews for a couple of weeks now): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299998/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344658/20:22
perelmanbut i will try to connect if there will be possibility to connect to some of your meetings there20:22
johnsom#agreed Next meeting will be November 9th20:22
perelmanwill be glad to do it20:22
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sbalukoffI think those are going to be fairly impromptu.20:23
johnsomOk.20:24
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johnsomYeah, we don't have talk session this time.20:24
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johnsomnmagnezi Ok.  I think Doug said he was going to have a look.  I will also try to review those, but I have a list of reviews I'm still working on.20:25
sbalukoffIt occurred to Dustin and I that giving a #vbrownbag on high-performance Octavia would have been great, but apparently we're also too late for that deadline.20:25
sbalukoffSo... I guess we can just talk about it in person and share our notes.20:26
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nmagnezijohnsom, thanks. sorry just wanted to raise this one more time so it might get merged before the summit break20:26
johnsomYep.  I plan to be in the design summit area most of the time, so opportunity for us to chat/work together.20:27
sbalukoffWoot!20:27
sbalukoffI'm looking forward to it!20:27
johnsomYep.  Any other topics for today?20:27
nmagnezisbalukoff, do you eventually stick around? :)20:27
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sbalukoffnmagnezi: Er...? Today?20:28
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sbalukoffI'm going to be intermittently available today.20:28
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nmagnezisbalukoff, no, in Octavia in general. asking because of your announcement  the other day20:28
nmagnezijohnsom, seems like there are no additional topics20:29
sbalukoffIf you're talking about me being paid to work on neutron-lbaas / octavia long term...  Well, they've not told me to stop working on it yet. And based on more recent developments there's a very, very slim chance I might still be working on Octavia in three weeks. But it's slim enough that I didn't want to raise anyone's hopes (or fears).20:29
sbalukoffSo for now? I'll do what I can. Until they tell me to stop.20:29
johnsomWe appreciate the help!20:30
sbalukoffI care a lot about these projects, because I've been working with y'all on them from their inception. And I think they're actually pretty good. :D20:30
johnsomOk, that sounds like it for today.  Thanks!  Safe travel20:31
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johnsom#endmeeting20:31
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nmagnezisbalukoff, i agree :D I hope things will turn for the best20:31
openstackMeeting ended Wed Oct 19 20:31:18 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)20:31
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nmagnezienjoy the summit guys20:31
sbalukoffThanks folks! See some of y'all at the conference next week!20:31
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