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tonyb | #startmeeting requirements | 10:02 |
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openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 2 10:02:47 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 10:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 10:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 10:02 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'requirements' | 10:02 |
tonyb | #topix rollcall | 10:02 |
tonyb | #topic rollcall | 10:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 10:03 | |
tonyb | sigmavirus, prometheanfire, number80, dirk, coolsvap, toabctl ... we're over here for today | 10:03 |
toabctl | hey | 10:03 |
number80 | o/ | 10:03 |
tonyb | sorry for the venue change .. not sure how we have a conflict :( | 10:04 |
number80 | it's okay, I also live here :) | 10:04 |
tonyb | :) | 10:04 |
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tonyb | okay well the other can wander in late ... | 10:06 |
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tonyb | #topic Any controversies in the Queue? | 10:06 |
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tonyb | I have gunicorn and kobu/amqp to talk about alter but others? | 10:07 |
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number80 | no other controversies in the queue for me | 10:08 |
tonyb | okay | 10:08 |
tonyb | So do we need to go into the background on gunicorn? | 10:09 |
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number80 | I think so, other projects are using uwsgi and we already have waitress | 10:09 |
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coolsvap | hey | 10:10 |
tonyb | I don't know abotu waitress but es otehrs are using uwsgi or apache with mod_wsgi | 10:10 |
tonyb | coolsvap: hey | 10:10 |
number80 | yes | 10:10 |
tonyb | there has been a line drwn in the sand that thr application uses a frame work (flask, etc) and it up to deployers to choose which server they want (uswsgi / apache) | 10:11 |
tonyb | in this cane we're beeing requiested to add gunicorn so that a mircoservice installed in a service VM can use it *and* the project can be managed by g-r | 10:11 |
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tonyb | the issues I have are 1) g-r is about co-installability and this service isnt co-installed with the rest of OpenStack | 10:12 |
tonyb | 2) AFAICT this forces gunicorn on all users regardless of the preferred server choice in the service VM | 10:13 |
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tonyb | and 3) an ammount of history/FUD around adding gunicorn to g-r beeing taken as a blessing for oethr to use it | 10:13 |
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tonyb | which removes more choice from deployers / packagers | 10:13 |
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tonyb | There is an Octavia? review up that shows how it'll be used but I habent had time to review it | 10:14 |
tonyb | Have others ooked at it ? | 10:14 |
number80 | since they only need it for the gate, then waitress should probably do the job | 10:14 |
tonyb | number80: okay but we dont' seem to have waitress in g-r (only in u-c) so that doesn't really help the meta-question | 10:15 |
coolsvap | tonyb: i believe the the points mentioned is a good reason to not let it in and we have alternatives which other projects are using | 10:16 |
number80 | well, forcing a wsgi framework is not acceptable as you said | 10:16 |
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coolsvap | I havent seen the octavia review either | 10:18 |
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tonyb | let me dif it up ... | 10:18 |
tonyb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386758/ | 10:18 |
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tonyb | It's in the commit message of the gunicorn (requirements change) | 10:19 |
number80 | this change is incorrect, they were using incorrectly werkzeug in the first place (of course, they'd have bugs by using the dev server in prod) | 10:21 |
tonyb | number80: right, and this is the fix | 10:22 |
number80 | maybe we should point them to how neutron solved that since they both use Pecan | 10:23 |
tonyb | number80: they don't want pecan as it's "too heavy" for the microservice | 10:24 |
tonyb | I think we need to accept that gunicorn is a good fit for want they want | 10:24 |
tonyb | it's just a question of adding it to g-r *or* not and them workign around that in the gate | 10:24 |
tonyb | My worry is about user expectations and flexibility | 10:25 |
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number80 | ack | 10:25 |
tonyb | The seems to be only for the gate and not for actual users of the service VM BUT that seems non-sensical to me | 10:25 |
tonyb | which probably measn I'm missing something | 10:26 |
tonyb | I also don't want to cause undue burdon / stall on anyone | 10:26 |
tonyb | If you have any free time leave a review and I'll do the same | 10:27 |
number80 | I'll do | 10:27 |
tonyb | I'd like to have this merged or abandoned by next weeks meeting | 10:27 |
coolsvap | tonyb: yes, if they need it only in gates, can they work with it only in test-requirements? | 10:27 |
tonyb | coolsvap: Well that still measn adding it to g-r so it doesn't change the conversation greatly | 10:28 |
tonyb | frankly my gut is saying it wrong but we shoudl take it with a "big comment" because I really don't like saying "no" | 10:29 |
coolsvap | tonyb: yes but then it makes more sense than what it correctly | 10:29 |
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tonyb | but I'm worried that'll just buy us moer trouble down the track ... | 10:29 |
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tonyb | coolsvap: perhaps. I need to learn more about Octavia | 10:30 |
tonyb | I think we shoudl timebox this conversation as we have the amqp/kombu discussion | 10:30 |
coolsvap | yes lets put more comments on review this week and get it concluded | 10:31 |
coolsvap | tonyb: another review i had on my mind is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374432/ | 10:31 |
tonyb | ampq/kombu ... https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+bug/1638263/comments/5 | 10:32 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1638263 in OpenStack Global Requirements "Unit tests failing on vine.five import" [Medium,Confirmed] | 10:32 |
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tonyb | I think that link cover my expectations/understand and history of how we got here | 10:32 |
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tonyb | I *think* a compromise position would be the block 4.0.0 rather than cap and then we can progress towards 4.0.0 as cycle occur | 10:33 |
tonyb | the +/- of that pproach is *everytime* kombu release oslo.messaging will break until we block new version in g-r | 10:33 |
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coolsvap | yes i also think block 4.0.0 would be better forward looking approach | 10:35 |
number80 | *nods* | 10:35 |
tonyb | okay I'll unblock the 2 reviews and leave that as a comment | 10:36 |
tonyb | coolsvap: to the review to brought up ... | 10:37 |
tonyb | It looks like it can be +W'd | 10:37 |
coolsvap | tonyb: yes thats why i brought it up | 10:38 |
tonyb | coolsvap: done. | 10:39 |
tonyb | coolsvap: I don't like bypassing a core's -1 but AFICT it shoudl have been lost when patchset 4 was uploaded anyway | 10:39 |
coolsvap | tonyb: ack | 10:40 |
tonyb | I have on the agenda to talk about the priorities but I need to really sit down an write that up befoer it'll really make sense (interms of what needs doing and in what order) | 10:41 |
tonyb | We started with the base assuption that "everything uses constrainst" but we can't saitisfy that | 10:41 |
tonyb | so between now and next week it's be good to find the low hanging fruit for projects that don't support constratins and either | 10:42 |
tonyb | a) add support or b) if adding support is compex (like oslo.messaging) open a bug tracking bug in the project and requirements so we can see our debt/backlog | 10:42 |
tonyb | can y'all spare a few mintutes to do that? | 10:43 |
number80 | ack | 10:43 |
tonyb | In parallel we can do some tox work to paper over the real probelm and/or some pip work to fix it | 10:43 |
coolsvap | yeah https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/requirements-track-constraints-usage | 10:43 |
coolsvap | lets use this to track so we do not end up tracking the same project | 10:44 |
tonyb | but those last 2 things are big efforts | 10:44 |
tonyb | coolsvap: good idea | 10:44 |
number80 | sure | 10:44 |
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tonyb | I'll do oslo.* tomorrow (starting with messaging) | 10:45 |
tonyb | #action <all> deep dive into projects missing constraints support | 10:45 |
tonyb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/requirements-track-constraints-usage | 10:45 |
tonyb | #topic Open Discussion | 10:46 |
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tonyb | 14mins left ... anything to discuss? | 10:47 |
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tonyb | coolsvap, toabctl, number80: recoverd from the travel? | 10:47 |
coolsvap | nothing on my mind as this is my first working day after summit | 10:47 |
tonyb | coolsvap: mine too | 10:47 |
coolsvap | we had the diwali holidays right after I came back | 10:47 |
coolsvap | had lot of fun with friend and family | 10:48 |
coolsvap | still coming out of it | 10:48 |
coolsvap | one of the reasons i missed the ping for meeting ;-) | 10:48 |
number80 | well, I had fun with administration to replace my ID and few other cards I lost in Barcelona :) | 10:48 |
tonyb | coolsvap: nice. I've wanted to see that I've heard it's very spectacular | 10:48 |
tonyb | number80: Oh :( | 10:48 |
coolsvap | number80: oh | 10:49 |
number80 | well, nothing important was lost or that can't be replaced :) | 10:49 |
coolsvap | tonyb: yeah it is | 10:49 |
coolsvap | number80: yes I can be sure about your yubikey | 10:49 |
coolsvap | it was safe ;-) | 10:49 |
tonyb | coolsvap: :) | 10:49 |
number80 | :) | 10:49 |
tonyb | Well I think we're done | 10:50 |
number80 | yep | 10:50 |
coolsvap | yup | 10:50 |
tonyb | #endmeeting | 10:50 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 10:50 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 2 10:50:32 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:50 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2016/requirements.2016-11-02-10.02.html | 10:50 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2016/requirements.2016-11-02-10.02.txt | 10:50 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2016/requirements.2016-11-02-10.02.log.html | 10:50 |
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prometheanfire | o/ | 12:03 |
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devkulkarni | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 14:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 2 14:00:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 14:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 14:00 |
devkulkarni | #topic Roll Call | 14:00 |
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devkulkarni | Dev Kulkarni | 14:00 |
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devkulkarni | hmm, looks like solum team members are still getting back from the summit..lets wait for another 5 minutes.. | 14:16 |
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devkulkarni | alright.. ending today's meeting | 14:35 |
devkulkarni | #endmeeting | 14:35 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:35 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 2 14:35:44 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:35 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-11-02-14.00.html | 14:35 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-11-02-14.00.txt | 14:35 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-11-02-14.00.log.html | 14:35 |
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jschwarz | \o/ | 15:00 |
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jschwarz | haleyb, no dvr meeting today? | 15:02 |
haleyb | hi there, i can do it | 15:02 |
jschwarz | is it just us? no Swami? | 15:02 |
haleyb | jschwarz: i just don't know about swami, he might be offline figuring it was cancelled like the neutron meeting | 15:03 |
jschwarz | haleyb, I see | 15:03 |
jschwarz | haleyb, well I don't have much to report so unless there was something new this week... | 15:04 |
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haleyb | yeah, and i hadn't update the wiki | 15:06 |
haleyb | jschwarz: my only open issue is that race condition bug, and i have to respond to your comments | 15:06 |
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jschwarz | haleyb, you mean https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1635554 ? | 15:07 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1635554 in neutron "Delete Router / race condition" [High,Incomplete] - Assigned to John Schwarz (jschwarz) | 15:07 |
haleyb | no, hang on | 15:07 |
haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385617/ | 15:07 |
haleyb | https://launchpad.net/bugs/1631513 | 15:08 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1631513 in neutron "DVR: Fix race conditions when trying to add default gateway for fip gateway port." [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 15:08 |
jschwarz | haleyb, ah yes | 15:08 |
jschwarz | finally reached that part of my backlog of actually contributing to dvr reviews | 15:08 |
jschwarz | in the process of reviewing the dvr fast exit patches | 15:08 |
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haleyb | jschwarz: so i'll respond to your comments | 15:10 |
jschwarz | haleyb, IRC hasn't made this advances yet - just imagine a "like" button being pressed by me right now ;-) | 15:10 |
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haleyb | jschwarz: that advance is called hipchat, that has emojis and i think there might be some weird button there :) | 15:12 |
jschwarz | XD | 15:12 |
jschwarz | haleyb, how was your week besides? | 15:12 |
jschwarz | we still missed you at the summit | 15:12 |
haleyb | jschwarz: i worked on that patch and some other odds and dvr ends | 15:12 |
haleyb | i missed not being at the summit, i've made to all but 1 since diablo | 15:13 |
jschwarz | aye, there were a few other missing people | 15:13 |
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jschwarz | Swami also didn't show up (or I just didn't see him) | 15:13 |
jschwarz | Sean M. Collins, Kyle Mestery... | 15:14 |
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jschwarz | well, that was a fun meeting :) | 15:25 |
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mugsie | #startmeeting Designate | 16:59 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 2 16:59:33 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:59 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:59 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 16:59 |
mugsie | #topic Roll Call | 16:59 |
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mugsie | timsim: Kiall_ | 17:02 |
timsim | o/ | 17:02 |
mugsie | i think Kiall may be AFK | 17:02 |
mugsie | timsim: wanna skip ? | 17:02 |
timsim | Sure. I don't think we have much to discuss, just getting back and all. | 17:03 |
mugsie | ++ | 17:03 |
mugsie | #endmeeting | 17:03 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 2 17:03:11 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:03 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-11-02-16.59.html | 17:03 |
timsim | o/ | 17:03 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-11-02-16.59.txt | 17:03 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-11-02-16.59.log.html | 17:03 |
mugsie | see ya in a week :) | 17:03 |
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amrith | #startmeeting trove | 17:59 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 2 17:59:45 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amrith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:59 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:59 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 17:59 |
amrith | anyone here for the trove meeting? | 17:59 |
spilla | o/ | 18:00 |
aliadil | o/ | 18:00 |
schang | o/ | 18:00 |
amrith | hello ... let's give folks a couple of minutes to come on in | 18:00 |
peterstac | o/ | 18:01 |
amrith | hi folks | 18:01 |
johnma | o/ | 18:01 |
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vgnbkr | o/ | 18:02 |
mvandijk | ./ | 18:02 |
amrith | let's get going | 18:02 |
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amrith | we have a longish agenda | 18:02 |
amrith | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:02 |
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amrith | #topic Update CONTRIBUTING.rst | 18:02 |
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amrith | (yes, I skipped the review status) | 18:03 |
amrith | I'm updating the numbers in parallel and will get back to that. | 18:03 |
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SlickNik | o/ | 18:04 |
amrith | hi SlickNik | 18:04 |
amrith | so, one of the things from barcelona | 18:04 |
SlickNik | hi folks — sorry running a bit late this morning | 18:04 |
amrith | We had a discussion in Barcelona and I've summarized that as a change to CONTRIBUTING.rst. See https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392194/ | 18:04 |
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amrith | no worries SlickNik; i'm still running on barcelona time :) and I'm wondering why there's no wine. | 18:05 |
amrith | please take a minute to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392194/ | 18:05 |
amrith | we've for a long time now been operating loosely on these principles | 18:05 |
amrith | but several projects are (like us) feeling the need to be more explicit about this. | 18:06 |
amrith | and I've proposed this language to contributing.rst as we discussed. | 18:06 |
amrith | I think the text is rather straightforward. | 18:06 |
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amrith | but just in case anyone has concerns about it, let's discuss now. | 18:07 |
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peterstac | WF+1'd, so I think we're good ;) | 18:08 |
amrith | thx peterstac | 18:08 |
SlickNik | Yes, it looks good to me — makes perfect sense. | 18:09 |
amrith | still, if there are concerns, we can always revisit. | 18:09 |
amrith | so without further ado, ... let's move to the previous item on the agenda | 18:09 |
amrith | #topic Review status | 18:09 |
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amrith | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJxNaoR3VVNS1Cpiz7U--1zyJRZ6ybMxzJoayrjdduo/edit?usp=sharing | 18:09 |
amrith | it is clear that we've had a steep decline in the #reviews | 18:10 |
amrith | and an increase in the number of outstanding change sets. | 18:10 |
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amrith | we will have to do a couple of things. first, I've got to make sure I update these numbers weekly (working on automating that). the second is that we've all got to pick up the pace on reviews. | 18:11 |
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amrith | nothing new or interesting here but I think the next two topics on the agenda may help. | 18:11 |
amrith | anyone have anything to add ... | 18:12 |
amrith | hearing none ... | 18:12 |
amrith | #topic Merge these changes as a priority | 18:12 |
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amrith | OK, so this is one of two things that I'd like to start doing to help move things through in the areas that we have prioritized. | 18:13 |
amrith | each week, let's have a short list of things that we want to focus reviews on. | 18:13 |
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amrith | in keeping with the projects that we thought we should get in for the ocata release, these are some of the reviews that we need to merge. some of them may have merged already, others may be on the way to merging (have already been verified). but this here is a starting point ... does anyone have questions about any of these, and how do we want to g about merging these | 18:14 |
amrith | 1 and 2 are already merged | 18:15 |
amrith | 7 is merged | 18:15 |
amrith | 8 is in merge conflict ... vgnbkr see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382493 | 18:15 |
amrith | the rest are in need of reviews | 18:16 |
vgnbkr | Yeah, F'ing jenkins. | 18:16 |
amrith | I updated the agenda | 18:17 |
amrith | please refresh your webpages | 18:17 |
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amrith | the list now consists of the things that are in need of review (modulo the one that vgnbkr has merge conflicts on) | 18:17 |
SlickNik | The numbers correspond to the reviews here: | 18:18 |
SlickNik | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:18 |
amrith | yes | 18:18 |
amrith | now the reviews outstanding are: | 18:18 |
amrith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/387528 | 18:18 |
amrith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381241 | 18:18 |
amrith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370971 | 18:18 |
amrith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296667 | 18:18 |
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amrith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382493 | 18:18 |
amrith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362338 | 18:18 |
amrith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362341 | 18:18 |
amrith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388100 | 18:18 |
amrith | and here is what each of those is ... | 18:19 |
amrith | 387528 Change the way redstack figures the default network | 18:19 |
amrith | 381241 Fix RPC Versioning | 18:19 |
amrith | 370971 make trove-dashboard use upper-constraints | 18:19 |
amrith | 296667 Replace obsolete oslo-incubator apiclient | 18:19 |
amrith | 382493 Multi-Region Support (client side, server side has -1's not listed here) | 18:19 |
amrith | 362338 Cluster Upgrade (server side) | 18:19 |
amrith | 362341 Cluster Upgrade (client side) | 18:19 |
amrith | 388100 Guest-agent metadata (spec, code already proposed) | 18:19 |
amrith | We are required to finish 296667 for Ocata (goal across projects) | 18:19 |
amrith | the cluster upgrade and multi-region changes are things that we decided to do for Ocata (among other things) | 18:20 |
amrith | RPC versioning is going to be more important moving forward as we have upgrade now supported and may soon want to start actually versioning some of the API's | 18:20 |
amrith | 387528 is needed when we get to neutron (in the gate) | 18:20 |
amrith | though I just noticed that the description says redstack which is wrong | 18:20 |
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johnma | for 296667, have we addressed the issues Ronald referred to in changeset 1? | 18:21 |
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amrith | johnma, yes. I think they have to the best that we could | 18:22 |
johnma | ok sounds good. | 18:22 |
amrith | the common class approach that he refers to is something that must be done across projects and I've not seen anyone leap forward to do that. | 18:22 |
amrith | most people have taken the approach (an approach) similar to the one here. | 18:23 |
johnma | ok | 18:23 |
amrith | I think this is a stop-gap solution as we all think openstack client should be coming <cough><cough> soon | 18:23 |
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amrith | any other thoughts on these ... | 18:25 |
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peterstac | I'll see if I can take a look at it today ... | 18:27 |
amrith | thx peterstac | 18:27 |
SlickNik | I should be able to review quite a few of them today as well. | 18:27 |
SlickNik | Thanks for coming up with the list — this is helpful. | 18:27 |
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amrith | np SlickNik | 18:28 |
amrith | I'm going to star them | 18:28 |
amrith | so it will pop up on the dashboard | 18:28 |
SlickNik | ++ | 18:29 |
amrith | done | 18:29 |
SlickNik | I've edited the page to use ordered lists — makes them a bit easier to talk about. | 18:29 |
amrith | cool thanks SlickNik | 18:30 |
amrith | yes, much better to read | 18:30 |
amrith | and for those who use the trove dashboard | 18:30 |
amrith | https://review.openstack.org/#/dashboard/?foreach=status%253Aopen++%2528project%253Aopenstack%252Ftrove+OR+project%253Aopenstack%252Ftrove%252Dintegration+OR+project%253Aopenstack%252Ftrove%252Dspecs+OR+project%253Aopenstack%252Fpython%252Dtroveclient+OR+project%253Aopenstack%252Ftrove%252Ddashboard%2529&title=Trove+Review+Dashboard&My+Patches+Requiring+Attention=owner%253Aself+%2528label%253AVerified%253C%253D%25 | 18:30 |
amrith | 2D1%252Cjenkins+OR+label%253ACode%252DReview%253C%253D%252D1+OR+label%253AWorkflow%253C%253D%252D1+OR+NOT+is%253Amergeable%2529+%2528project%253Aopenstack%252Ftrove+OR+project%253Aopenstack%252Ftrove%252Dintegration+OR+project%253Aopenstack%252Ftrove%252Dspecs+OR+project%253Aopenstack%252Fpython%252Dtroveclient+OR+project%253Aopenstack%252Ftrove%252Ddashboard%2529&Patches+waiting+longer+than+14+days=label%253AVeri | 18:30 |
amrith | fied%253E%253D1%252Cjenkins+NOT+label%253AWorkflow%253C%253D%252D1+NOT+label%253ACode%252DReview%253C%253D%252D1+is%253Amergeable+age%253A14d&Patches+waiting+longer+than+7+days=label%253AVerified%253E%253D1%252Cjenkins+NOT+label%253AWorkflow%253C%253D%252D1+NOT+label%253ACode%252DReview%253C%253D%252D1+is%253Amergeable+age%253A7d+NOT+age%253A14d&Specs+requiring+review=project%253Aopenstack%252Ftrove%252Dspecs+NOT+ | 18:30 |
amrith | label%253AWorkflow%253C%253D%252D1++NOT+label%253AVerified%253C%253D%252D1%252Cjenkins+NOT+label%253ACode%252DReview%253C%253D%252D2&Trove%253A+Priority+code+reviews=%2528starredby%253Aamrith+OR+starredby%253Aself%2529+%2528project%253Aopenstack%252Ftrove+OR+project%253Aopenstack%252Ftrove%252Dintegration%2529+NOT+label%253AWorkflow%253C%253D%252D1+is%253Amergeable+NOT+label%253AVerified%253C%253D%252D1%252Cjenkin | 18:31 |
amrith | s+NOT+label%253ACode%252DReview%253C%253D%252D2&Trove+Client+and+Dashboard%253A+Priority+code+reviews=%2528starredby%253Aamrith+OR+starredby%253Aself%2529+%2528project%253Aopenstack%252Fpython%252Dtroveclient+OR+project%253Aopenstack%252Ftrove%252Ddashboard%2529+NOT+label%253AWorkflow%253C%253D%252D1+is%253Amergeable++NOT+label%253AVerified%253C%253D%252D1%252Cjenkins+NOT+label%253ACode%252DReview%253C%253D%252D2& | 18:31 |
amrith | Changes+needing+Final+Approval=NOT+label%253AWorkflow%253E%253D1+NOT+label%253AWorkflow%253C%253D%252D1+label%253AVerified%253E%253D1%252Cjenkins+NOT+owner%253Aself+label%253ACode%252DReview%253E%253D2+NOT+label%253ACode%252DReview%252D1+is%253Amergeable&Changes+on+branches+other+than+master=NOT+branch%253Amaster&Needing+attention=%2528%2528%2528label%253AVerified%253C%253D%252D1%252Cjenkins%2529+NOT+label%253AWor | 18:31 |
amrith | kflow%253C%253D%252D1+NOT+label%253ACode%252DReview%253C%253D%252D2%2529+OR+NOT+is%253Amergeable%2529 | 18:31 |
amrith | what a nice link :) | 18:31 |
amrith | there are two sections there | 18:31 |
amrith | trove priority code reviews and client and dashboard priority code reviews | 18:31 |
amrith | I'll work through some of them as well today | 18:31 |
amrith | hopefully we can get it done | 18:31 |
amrith | so unless there are other comments about this, ... | 18:31 |
amrith | #topic Abandon old reviews | 18:32 |
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amrith | As we discussed at the work session, one of the things I want to do is abandon a number of old reviews that have not seen any action in weeks. If you would like any of these to be retained, please either be at the meeting, or update the agenda below. We will likely NOT go through each one at the meeting so updating the review will not suffice. | 18:32 |
amrith | Here's the list of reviews that I'm going to abandon | 18:32 |
amrith | 384298 Update .gitignore to ignore .idea of PyCharm | 18:32 |
amrith | 356270 trove-integration should use zuul user | 18:32 |
amrith | 347800 Reduce code duplication | 18:32 |
amrith | 367626 Handle Keystone V3 in module-list | 18:32 |
amrith | 373670 Updated the path of config files | 18:32 |
amrith | 353906 remove tenant_id from the injected guest_info file | 18:32 |
amrith | 347398 Reduce code duplication | 18:32 |
amrith | 370971 make trove-dashboard use upper-constraints | 18:32 |
amrith | 373236 Fix py34 jenkins gate errors | 18:32 |
amrith | 364608 Show flavor name instead of ID in show_instance | 18:32 |
amrith | 365412 Fix is_root_enabled to return True/False | 18:33 |
amrith | 369124 [install-guide]add Nova inject_partition configuration | 18:33 |
amrith | 356701 Create net/subnet for alt_demo tenant | 18:33 |
amrith | 303671 Make timeouts datastore specific | 18:33 |
amrith | 362416 [WIP] Cluster Upgrade for PXC | 18:33 |
amrith | 358693 Trove user page doesn't show allowed hosts AND databases | 18:33 |
amrith | 322826 Convert DIB elements from Fedora to CentOS7 | 18:33 |
amrith | 288297 fix delete backup tenant_id error | 18:33 |
amrith | 315619 Superconductor Spec | 18:33 |
amrith | 348743 Add support for module ordering on apply | 18:33 |
amrith | 323590 Add support for Cassandra 2.2 and 3.x | 18:33 |
amrith | note that this list does NOT include #22 which trevormc clarified | 18:33 |
amrith | #337914 is pending waiting for a change to merge in oslo. | 18:33 |
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amrith | so, if there are no concerns about these reviews, I intend to make them go away after this meeting with a message that they've been abandoned per discussion at the Trove meeting 11/2/2016 or something short like that | 18:34 |
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mvandijk | wait | 18:35 |
mvandijk | you sue this is a good idea? | 18:35 |
spilla | Shortened the link: https://goo.gl/ytwZYL :) | 18:35 |
mvandijk | I see a number of them that aren't dead... | 18:35 |
mvandijk | just waiting for activity | 18:35 |
vgnbkr | 362416 is [WIP] because nobody is reviewing my other cluster upgrade changes. | 18:36 |
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amrith | so how do we tell which is which? | 18:38 |
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amrith | if you have reviews on the list that you'd like to not have abandoned, please update the list in the agenda with a note | 18:38 |
amrith | and I won't abandon those. | 18:38 |
amrith | or do you have a better solution to how we can get rid of the ones which are in fact dead, for all intents and purposes. | 18:39 |
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SlickNik | Maybe we can put a note on the review this week. If folks reply to the note that they're still working on it, we keep the review. If there are no replies, we abandon the reviews next week. | 18:39 |
vgnbkr | Well as a first step, don't abandon things that are WIP without talking to the person. Afterall, they're WIP. | 18:40 |
amrith | SlickNik, we talked about that some months ago and realized that putting that note in the review basically updated the review and it "appeared" active in the list :) | 18:40 |
amrith | hence the idea was to not update the reviews and instead discuss them at the meeting. not saying that's the best solution, just what we talked about. | 18:40 |
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SlickNik | heh, yeah — we'd have to keep track of the reviews separately (like links off of that Meeting wiki) so we know which ones we're tracking (since we won't be able to use updated time as a metric for stale reviews anymore). | 18:41 |
amrith | vgnbkr, you are refering to 362416? | 18:42 |
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vgnbkr | Yes | 18:42 |
vgnbkr | But in general, too. | 18:42 |
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amrith | I don't know about the "in general" part. see https://review.openstack.org/373236 | 18:43 |
amrith | what do you suggest? | 18:43 |
amrith | the thing has been comatose for a while | 18:43 |
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vgnbkr | Somebody review the other changes that it is waiting on? | 18:43 |
amrith | yes, that's been the request all along. that people should review changes. | 18:44 |
amrith | but I'm asking about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/373236/ | 18:44 |
amrith | what do you suggest? that we contact the submitter for this and each such thing with a WF-1? | 18:44 |
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amrith | anyone have other ideas? | 18:47 |
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amrith | . | 18:50 |
spilla | I like the idea of having the submitter respond | 18:51 |
spilla | But am trying to think of a way without updating the review that'll get their attention | 18:51 |
SlickNik | The only other way I can think of is emailing them, but that has a different set of disadvantages. | 18:51 |
amrith | mvandijk, which ones were you thinking were not really dead? | 18:52 |
mvandijk | the WIPs | 18:52 |
amrith | let's just take those off the list | 18:52 |
amrith | just take them off the list in the wiki | 18:52 |
amrith | I took vgnbkr's off | 18:52 |
amrith | I'm sure that there are plenty that aren't WIP | 18:52 |
mvandijk | ok, none of mine are on there so I can't really speak to the rest | 18:53 |
spilla | Could we flag the the with like [TBA] (to ba abandoned) to the review title and if no response to the review for 7 days they are abandoned | 18:53 |
SlickNik | ++ amrith: Let's do that — I'll make a separate list for the WIP ones on that page. And I'll track them and put a note in them. If I don't hear back in a week, we can abandon them. | 18:54 |
amrith | sounds good to me, let's just say we carry this list forward to the next meeting (1 week) | 18:54 |
johnma | do we want to try and review them in the next week or so and then do the following: | 18:54 |
johnma | 1) if they are good, merge | 18:54 |
amrith | and if they are still there we abandon them. | 18:54 |
johnma | 2) if it needs more work, update it accordingly with comments and then wait for activity/inactivity and then abandon at that point | 18:55 |
amrith | would that work? | 18:55 |
johnma | I think thats fair amrith | 18:55 |
SlickNik | amrith: ++ I think that's fair | 18:55 |
amrith | i'm fine with either johnma's proposal or SlickNik's proposal | 18:55 |
amrith | to johnma's proposal, we have a challenge getting review bandwidth | 18:55 |
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amrith | do I *really* want to waste review bandwidth on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384298? no ... | 18:56 |
amrith | nor 2, 3, 7, 9, ... | 18:56 |
amrith | but I'm fine with the approach | 18:56 |
amrith | let's pick one and move forward | 18:57 |
amrith | what do people feel? | 18:57 |
johnma | of course, the ones in the ocata review list definitely gets priority. the rest they either sit there for another week or as we get time we review | 18:57 |
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amrith | like, I have this review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370971; it is on the list to abandon. do I want it abandoned? no. but it needs to be reviewed and that hasn't happened. so I don't want it to just sit there forever. | 18:58 |
amrith | it should be a quick review | 18:58 |
amrith | but it hasn't happened ... | 18:58 |
amrith | and my concern is that the important ones are being lost in the noise | 18:58 |
amrith | anyway, we're 1m from #end of meeting | 18:58 |
amrith | so let's wrap up | 18:58 |
amrith | SlickNik, you'll make a list? | 18:58 |
* SlickNik SlickNik to make a candidate list of reviews to abandon and put a note in them. We can track this list and abandon all of the reviews that have no movement in them in a weeks time. | 18:59 | |
amrith | sounds good | 19:00 |
SlickNik | #action SlickNik to make a candidate list of reviews to abandon and put a note in them. We can track this list and abandon all of the reviews that have no movement in them in a weeks time. | 19:00 |
amrith | that's all we hav etime for today so let's call it a wrap | 19:00 |
amrith | and if there's anything more to talk about move to #openstack-trove | 19:00 |
amrith | #endmeeting | 19:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 2 19:00:32 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-11-02-17.59.html | 19:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-11-02-17.59.txt | 19:00 |
SlickNik | Thanks amrith! | 19:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-11-02-17.59.log.html | 19:00 |
amrith | thx SlickNik | 19:00 |
spilla | thanks! | 19:00 |
johnma | thanks amrith | 19:02 |
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