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| moshele | #startmeeting sriov | 13:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 15 13:00:58 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is moshele. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sriov)" | 13:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sriov' | 13:01 |
| moshele | hi | 13:01 |
| lennyb | hi | 13:01 |
| pkoniszewski | o/ | 13:01 |
| edand | hi | 13:01 |
| lbeliveau | o/ | 13:01 |
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| moshele | #topic Improving SR-IOV/PCI Passthrough CI | 13:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Improving SR-IOV/PCI Passthrough CI (Meeting topic: sriov)" | 13:02 | |
| moshele | so migration test - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339230/ is merged | 13:02 |
| wznoinsk | o/ | 13:02 |
| moshele | we need to merge the migration revert test - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348498/ in tempest | 13:02 |
| lbeliveau | yeap, will ping ptl today | 13:03 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: did you talk to the tempest cores? | 13:03 |
| moshele | ok cool | 13:03 |
| lbeliveau | not about revert, I was waiting that normal test gets merged | 13:03 |
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| moshele | it already merged the migration test see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339230/ i | 13:04 |
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| lbeliveau | yeah I saw it this morning, that's why I'm saying that I'll ping them today for the revert | 13:04 |
| moshele | ha ok, got it | 13:04 |
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| moshele | so we don't have progress with the PF CI passthrough so I will skip this | 13:05 |
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| wznoinsk | moshele, could you share what is the problem? | 13:05 |
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| moshele | wznoinsk: we don't have time at the moment lennyb is busy with other tasks not related to openstack | 13:06 |
| wznoinsk | I was recently working on PCI (PF/VF) passthru CI, may be able to help | 13:06 |
| wznoinsk | moshele, roger | 13:06 |
| moshele | #topic Patches for Subteam Review | 13:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Patches for Subteam Review (Meeting topic: sriov)" | 13:07 | |
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| moshele | pkoniszewski: any update the on the live migration patches live-mig: Add claims and proper resource tracking - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244489/ | 13:07 |
| moshele | I didn't have time to get into this I hope I can in a few week | 13:08 |
| pkoniszewski | there is still one race condition to be resolved, so still WIP | 13:08 |
| pkoniszewski | haven't tested it yet | 13:08 |
| moshele | yes, I hope I can help in a few weeks | 13:10 |
| moshele | #topic Specs for Review | 13:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs for Review (Meeting topic: sriov)" | 13:10 | |
| moshele | most of the SR-IOV spec are in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ocata-spec-review-sprint | 13:10 |
| moshele | I will hope that all of them will get approved | 13:11 |
| moshele | we need to merged them until the 17th | 13:11 |
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| moshele | any other issues to discuss? | 13:12 |
| lbeliveau | FYI I'm working on race conditions on migration | 13:12 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: to many race conditions :( | 13:12 |
| moshele | so this is with the master code? | 13:13 |
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| lbeliveau | yes | 13:13 |
| moshele | so we didn't backport all the patches to newtown | 13:13 |
| moshele | newton | 13:13 |
| lbeliveau | I'm not sure ... but we know race conditions still existed | 13:14 |
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| moshele | so is it when you doing it fast or multiple times | 13:15 |
| moshele | and is it in the migration or the revert migration? | 13:15 |
| lbeliveau | yes, I have one vm, doing migrations in a loop (no revert at this point) | 13:15 |
| moshele | is there a sleep in between? | 13:16 |
| lbeliveau | 2 sec. | 13:16 |
| lbeliveau | confirmed that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370374/ is needed, but still working on it | 13:16 |
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| lbeliveau | and there are other issues that I haven't figured out yet | 13:16 |
| moshele | I just wonder if it releated to this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327356/ | 13:17 |
| moshele | ok, I will let you investigate it more | 13:17 |
| moshele | any other issues? | 13:17 |
| lbeliveau | yes, I was wondering that too ... | 13:18 |
| lbeliveau | not at the moment | 13:18 |
| moshele | #endmeeting | 13:18 |
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| moshele | bye | 13:18 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 15 13:18:15 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-11-15-13.00.html | 13:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-11-15-13.00.txt | 13:18 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-11-15-13.00.log.html | 13:18 |
| lbeliveau | bye | 13:18 |
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| shardy | #startmeeting tripleo | 14:00 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 14:00 |
| d0ugal | Hey! | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 15 14:00:29 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is shardy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| sshnaidm | o/ | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:00 | |
| slagle | hi | 14:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 14:00 |
| shardy | Hi all, who's around? | 14:00 |
| adarazs | o/ | 14:00 |
| ccamacho | hi folks! o/ | 14:00 |
| jpich | o/ | 14:00 |
| marios | \o | 14:00 |
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| beagles | o/ | 14:00 |
| owalsh | o/ | 14:00 |
| arxcruz | o/ | 14:01 |
| cdearborn | o/ | 14:01 |
| shardy | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TripleO | 14:01 |
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| shardy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-meeting-items | 14:01 |
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| shardy | Please add any one-off items there ^^ | 14:02 |
| shadower | hey | 14:02 |
| matbu | o/ | 14:02 |
| shardy | Ok, hi all, lets get started! :) | 14:02 |
| shardy | #topic agenda | 14:02 |
| shardy | * one off agenda items | 14:02 |
| shardy | * bugs | 14:02 |
| shardy | * Projects releases or stable backports | 14:02 |
| shardy | * CI | 14:02 |
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| weshay | o/ | 14:02 |
| shardy | * Specs | 14:02 |
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| shardy | * open discussion | 14:02 |
| trown | o/ | 14:02 |
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| mwhahaha | o/ | 14:02 |
| panda | o/ | 14:02 |
| pradk | o/ | 14:03 |
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| shardy | #topic one off agenda items | 14:04 |
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| shardy | Ok so we have a few this week, panda you want to go first? | 14:04 |
| panda | shardy: sure, my items really comes down to a single question | 14:04 |
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| panda | where do we want to test IPv6 ? there are two proposals, using updates job -OR- moving ll HA jobs IPv6, move network isolation testing for IPv4 on non-ha job, and test non-netiso environment on multinode. | 14:05 |
| panda | moving all seems complicated, but don't know if testing only updates on master is enough coverage | 14:06 |
| shardy | This is kind of related to a recent question from bandini ref can we just always enable pacemaker, to reduce the differences between the nonha and ha jobs | 14:07 |
| shardy | as a developer I'm not wildly excited about that, but it does potentially reduce the test matrix | 14:08 |
| shardy | panda: so an updates test will do a deploy, then an update, so it seems like pretty reasonable coverage to me | 14:08 |
| shardy | the question I have is how we ensure per-service coverage now that optional services are covered via the test scenarios | 14:09 |
| shardy | IME most ipv6 breakage happens in the per-service templates or profiles | 14:09 |
| shardy | any other thoughts on this folks? | 14:09 |
| slagle | i think we'd have to work towards ipv6 support in multinode jobs | 14:09 |
| panda | shardy: and it's ok to test it only on master | 14:09 |
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| shardy | panda: surely we'll want to test updates and upgrades on stable branches too? | 14:11 |
| shardy | maintaining that functionality on stable branches seems even more important than on master to me | 14:11 |
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| panda | ok | 14:12 |
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| shardy | panda: Do you want to follow up with a ML thread on this, and hopefully folks can respond when they've had time to consider the options? | 14:12 |
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| panda | shardy: sure, please follow up on this post http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-October/105934.html | 14:13 |
| panda | anyone ^ | 14:13 |
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| shardy | panda: aha, apologies I missed that one | 14:13 |
| shardy | thanks! | 14:13 |
| shardy | sshnaidm: care to go next? | 14:13 |
| sshnaidm | my topic is very short, please review and merge the quickstart experimental job patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381094/ that's it, thanks | 14:13 |
| shardy | #action all to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381094 quickstart CI patch | 14:14 |
| shardy | Ok my item is related to the above discussion re updates/upgrades | 14:14 |
| shardy | I'm prototyping composable upgrades here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393448/ | 14:14 |
| shardy | I'd really like some way to validate the eventual implementation against our current monolithic upgrade implementation | 14:14 |
| shardy | matbu: what's the status of your upgrades CI patch? | 14:15 |
| shardy | weshay: and/or do we have third-party ci jobs which can provide this coverage? | 14:15 |
| marios | shardy: thanks i also updated the spec and point at that now too (thanks for comments) | 14:15 |
| matbu | shardy: i'm (re)-working in this review since monday | 14:15 |
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| matbu | shardy: i think we are really close to see it passing | 14:16 |
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| shardy | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323750/ upgrades CI patch | 14:16 |
| matbu | shardy: i have made a little tool with ansible that allow me to reproduce tripleo-ci failure: https://github.com/matbu/ansible-role-tripleo-ci | 14:16 |
| shardy | matbu: Ok, what are the blockers to getting this landed? | 14:16 |
| matbu | it could be useful for anyone who wants to debug a tripleo-ci deployment | 14:16 |
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| matbu | shardy: just having the experimental job green | 14:17 |
| shardy | ideally I'd like CI coverage of upgrades, then post a series of patches doing a major rework of the upgrades implementation, and prove the job is still green afterwards | 14:17 |
| shardy | matbu: Ok, I was unsure if we were just having issues keeping within the timeout or if there were other blockers | 14:17 |
| matbu | shardy: ack, i really want to ends this review asap, in order to have this job for ocata work | 14:18 |
| shardy | matbu: ack, OK thanks for the update, lets sync up later and see if we can land it $soon | 14:19 |
| shardy | I'll also rebase my patches such that we can try them against the job | 14:19 |
| matbu | shardy: ack | 14:19 |
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| matbu | shardy: i think we would have to add two major upgrade, one for M->N and N->O | 14:20 |
| * shardy looks around for fultonj | 14:20 | |
| shardy | Ok looks like he's not here, I'll follow-up offline | 14:20 |
| shardy | I'd appreciate folks input on that spec tho, as atm I don't see how we can make progress until containers happen | 14:21 |
| shardy | #topic bugs | 14:21 |
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| shardy | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 14:22 |
| marios | shardy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1640812 is a pretty big one for updates testing | 14:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1640812 in tripleo "Network connectivity lost on node reboot" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Brent Eagles (beagles) | 14:22 |
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| marios | shardy: but beagles is working on it, mostly request for reviews | 14:22 |
| shardy | marios: thanks, yeah I checked out those patches yesterday and I don't think they were ready to land yet | 14:23 |
| shardy | will revisit today | 14:23 |
| marios | shardy: the initial approach was changed, added a comment with pointers on the bug to current approach | 14:23 |
| * beagles nods thanks to marios on that | 14:23 | |
| marios | thanks beagles for the quick responses and fixes | 14:23 |
| shardy | Ok well I'm in the process of deferring $everything to ocata-2, as I'd like to propose the release tomorrow | 14:24 |
| shardy | so please add any critical patches to https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:tripleo/ocata-1 | 14:24 |
| beagles | the downside I think right now is without a patch in tht that depends on that series it isn't being exercised by our current tht ci | 14:24 |
| shardy | any bugs not tracked there will be deferred tomorrow if they've not landed | 14:24 |
| shardy | Any other important bugs to raise? | 14:25 |
| shardy | mwhahaha: I'd appreciate your feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397644/ | 14:25 |
| mwhahaha | sure | 14:25 |
| shardy | that's a pretty major bug as heat is basically broken for all usage where metadata polling or signalling is used | 14:25 |
| shardy | (overcloud heat) | 14:25 |
| shardy | mwhahaha: thanks! | 14:25 |
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| shardy | Ok any other bugs to discuss this week? | 14:26 |
| shardy | #topic Projects releases or stable backports | 14:27 |
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| shardy | So, slagle did the stable release happen in the end last week? | 14:27 |
| slagle | no, it happened last night :) | 14:27 |
| shardy | slagle: aha :) | 14:27 |
| * shardy should have checked before asking :) | 14:28 | |
| shardy | Ok, well good that it's done, thanks for sorting it | 14:28 |
| slagle | np! | 14:28 |
| shardy | anything else to mention re stable releases or backports? | 14:28 |
| slagle | we can still do another newton release as needed, maybe in 2-3 weeks | 14:28 |
| shardy | +1 sounds good | 14:28 |
| bandini | +1 | 14:28 |
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| shardy | Ok so I already mentioned ocata-1 - that is due this week | 14:28 |
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| shardy | #link https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/ocata-1 | 14:29 |
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| shardy | Quite a few in-progress bugs remaining, so please please help with reviews so we can land as many as possible | 14:29 |
| shardy | I've already deferred most of the lower priority and/or unassigned things | 14:30 |
| shardy | anything remaining will be deferred tomorrow unless super-critical | 14:30 |
| shardy | https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 14:31 |
| shardy | ocata-2 is going to be only about a month later, so we'll have to push hard on landing some blueprints to avoid such a last-minute rush | 14:31 |
| shardy | Any other questions or comments related to releases? | 14:31 |
| shardy | #topic CI | 14:32 |
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| shardy | Been a fairly good week for CI I think - anyone have anything to mention here? | 14:32 |
| shardy | flaper87: Any update on reinstating the containers CI job? | 14:33 |
| panda | one promotion blocker this week, but it's already being addressed. | 14:33 |
| shardy | Ookay then.. | 14:35 |
| shardy | #topic Specs | 14:35 |
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| shardy | So IIRC EmilienM was keen for a spec freeze to happen yesterday | 14:35 |
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| shardy | but AFAICS the review rate has been low, so I'm not sure we can enforce that | 14:35 |
| trown | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386250/ looks mergable, but I wanted to bring it here one more time first | 14:36 |
| shardy | perhaps we can say anything not already at least proposed will not be considered | 14:36 |
| shardy | for ocata | 14:36 |
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| shadower | +1 to that | 14:36 |
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| * beagles looks at his shuffling feet, trying to hide his guilt... | 14:36 | |
| bandini | +1 yeah | 14:37 |
| bandini | seems reasonable | 14:37 |
| shardy | beagles: heh, we're all in the same position I think, spec reviews are time consuming and everyone is really busy | 14:37 |
| trown | seems fair | 14:37 |
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| weshay | shardy, I'm working on container ci atm, it's wip and running w/ quickstart | 14:38 |
| beagles | +1 to proposal | 14:38 |
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| shardy | weshay: Ok, that sounds good, thanks for the update! :) | 14:38 |
| dtantsur | does it apply to blueprints? | 14:38 |
| beagles | weshay: cool news! | 14:38 |
| shardy | #action all to have a final push on spec reviews so we can declare feature proposal freeze | 14:38 |
| dtantsur | shardy, question above ^^^ | 14:39 |
| shardy | dtantsur: I think there will be some flexibility around blueprints, but all major features really should be defined by now, or we'll simply run out of time | 14:39 |
| dtantsur | do we have any kind of blueprint review process? | 14:39 |
| marios | shardy: updated the composable upgrades spec... i think it may be mergable soon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392116/ | 14:39 |
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| marios | shardy: it points to your wip and i think describes the approach at a high level. | 14:40 |
| shardy | dtantsur: we reviewed all of them in Barcelona, but in general it's something the PTL does, grooming the backlog and prioritizing | 14:40 |
| dtantsur | of blueprint I wrote nobody apparently have reviewed https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/raid-workflow | 14:40 |
| shardy | I've also been helping with it | 14:40 |
| dtantsur | (we can chat about it outside of the meeting ofc) | 14:40 |
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| shardy | dtantsur: ack, I'd missed that one, will review, thanks | 14:41 |
| dtantsur | thanks | 14:41 |
| shardy | marios: ack, thanks | 14:41 |
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| shardy | marios: I'd appreciate your input on the WIP patch, it's basically working locally but I've not yet completed a full upgrade with it | 14:42 |
| shardy | marios: the hard part I think will be unravelling the pacemaker mangling scripts | 14:42 |
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| shardy | probably just have ansible call those for the first iteration | 14:42 |
| bandini | yeah | 14:42 |
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| shardy | Anyone have any other specs or features/blueprints they want to mention? | 14:43 |
| marios | shardy: yes it isn't clear to me how we will fit those into the overarching workflow either. | 14:43 |
| marios | shardy: honestly thanks for working on the protoype we are starting to calm a little now on blockers so hopefully lifecycle will engage more there | 14:43 |
| beagles | I filed one yesterday related to a change in how neutron does security groups... | 14:43 |
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| shardy | marios: I think it will be step6 -> run pcmk scripts for the first iteration | 14:44 |
| shardy | marios: but yeah, for sure we'll need more flexibility in future when we get to composable ha etc | 14:44 |
| shardy | feedback welcome | 14:44 |
| shardy | :) | 14:44 |
| owalsh | I should have an update for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388162/ today, reviews much appreciated | 14:44 |
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| shardy | beagles: got a link? | 14:44 |
| beagles | it was brought to my attention last week and while I get the desire to do this... it's going to need some discussion and clarification "across the board" to see if it is something that can be reasonably tackled | 14:44 |
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| shardy | owalsh: ack, thanks will do | 14:45 |
| beagles | shardy: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/neutron-firewall-driver-upgrade | 14:45 |
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| beagles | tbh I'm not sure that anything like this has been attempted as part of a tripleo upgrade - it affects guest VMs in the overcloud | 14:45 |
| beagles | pretty scary really | 14:46 |
| shardy | yeah sounds terrifying, what could possibly go wrong :D | 14:46 |
| shardy | but thanks, will check it out | 14:46 |
| shardy | sounds like the migration mechanism may be sufficiently complex that we need a spec? | 14:46 |
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| shardy | defining the migration steps (and proving them outside the context of TripleO) sounds like the first step? | 14:47 |
| shardy | I'd also seek to clarify if users will be willing to accept the risk of this kind of change on an already deployed cloud | 14:48 |
| beagles | yup.. that's currently a WIP.. been in a few discussions regarding. My gut says that at best we might try for something that is optionally enabled on update | 14:48 |
| shardy | vs making it a deploy time option which is immutable on upgrade | 14:48 |
| beagles | right | 14:48 |
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| shardy | beagles: I assume we've got feedback there are folks who want to attempt this, right? | 14:48 |
| beagles | shardy: that's a great question - I'll ask for clarification on what the driving forces are here. | 14:49 |
| shardy | beagles: ack, sounds good, thanks! | 14:50 |
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| shardy | #topic Open Discussion | 14:50 |
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| shardy | Anyone have anything else to raise? | 14:50 |
| shardy | dprince, flaper87: I'd appreciate your feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393448/ | 14:51 |
| shardy | particularly how we'd handle this workflow for heat orchestrated containers | 14:51 |
| dprince | shardy: ack | 14:51 |
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| shardy | I suspect the logic will be totally different, but it'd be nice to sketch out how this will look for containers, so we've got upgrade support from day1 | 14:51 |
| dprince | shardy: tentatively positive. I like that it is integrated with the existing composable services I think | 14:51 |
| shardy | or, at least not to wire in anything for puppet/ansible that will totally conflict with interfaces needed for containers | 14:52 |
| shardy | Ok anything else folks? | 14:53 |
| * shardy waits 1 minute | 14:53 | |
| shardy | Ok thanks all! | 14:54 |
| shardy | #endmeeting | 14:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 15 14:54:18 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-11-15-14.00.html | 14:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-11-15-14.00.txt | 14:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-11-15-14.00.log.html | 14:54 |
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| fultonj | shardy: the tripleo meeting ended just now? i thought it would start now. did the timezone get me? | 15:00 |
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| shardy | fultonj: I think it did, it's at 14.00 UTC | 15:05 |
| shardy | so just ended | 15:05 |
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| shardy | fultonj: jump into #tripleo, we can chat there | 15:05 |
| fultonj | shardy: i apologize the timezone got me | 15:05 |
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| tmorin | #startmeeting bgpvpn | 15:13 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 15 15:13:27 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmorin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:13 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:13 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'bgpvpn' | 15:13 |
| tmorin | hi everyone | 15:13 |
| bobmel | tmorin: hi | 15:13 |
| tmorin | hi bobmel | 15:13 |
| bobmel | tmorin: thx for your comments | 15:13 |
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| bobmel | tmorin: review comment | 15:14 |
| tmorin | hi doude, eon`, lewo, matrohon, pcarver, timirnich | 15:14 |
| tmorin | you're welcome :) | 15:14 |
| tmorin | thanks for working on this ! | 15:14 |
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| bobmel | tmorin: I have some follow up questions but perhaps we can take those here after this meeting | 15:14 |
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| tmorin | we sure can, during of after, depending what else we cover | 15:15 |
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| bobmel | tmorin: ok, great | 15:16 |
| tmorin | hmm | 15:18 |
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| tmorin | we aren't many :) | 15:18 |
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| tmorin | some people may still be on DST... | 15:18 |
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| tmorin | bobmel: let's discuss the point you have about the tempest scenario testing | 15:19 |
| tmorin | we can still cover other topics when/if more people come up | 15:19 |
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| bobmel | Ok, yes we might as well do that since nobody else seems to be around | 15:19 |
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| bobmel | So I have my single node devstack setup with bpgvpn up (bagpipe driveR) | 15:20 |
| bobmel | Now, in the scenario test outlines with the two networks/subnets attached to the vpn | 15:20 |
| bobmel | Should that vpn instance forward packets between the vms on those two networks/subnets | 15:21 |
| bobmel | ? | 15:21 |
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| tmorin | in a single node setup, the one OVS will forward the packets between the VMs on those two networks | 15:22 |
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| tmorin | the traffic path will be br-int -> br-tun -> br-mpls -> br-tun -> br-int | 15:23 |
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| tmorin | with the internal vlan id changed by br-mpls | 15:23 |
| tmorin | does it answer your question ? | 15:24 |
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| bobmel | Yes think so. | 15:24 |
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| bobmel | Is it the bagpipe agent driver that will create the ovs rules to make that vlan change? | 15:25 |
| tmorin | bagpipe_bgpvpn extension inside the agent will receive BGPVPN information in RPCs and pass them to bagpipe-bgp via its local REST API | 15:26 |
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| bobmel | At the moment i have not been able to ping between the two VMs | 15:26 |
| tmorin | and its bagpipe-bgp that will (a) exchange BGP VPN routes and (b) populate br-mpls | 15:26 |
| bobmel | Aha, ok, I see. | 15:26 |
| tmorin | (b) above include rule that change the vlan id | 15:27 |
| tmorin | rules | 15:27 |
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| tmorin | traffic is processed in a given VRF based on its local vlan id | 15:27 |
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| tmorin | if the prefix matched in the VRF is on the same compute, the packet is resubmitted to appear as incoming MPLS traffic, and matched in the destination VRF | 15:28 |
| tmorin | this destination VRF pops the MPLS label, sets the destination local vlan id, and passes the packet to br-tun | 15:28 |
| tmorin | these diagrams may help: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/networking-bgpvpn/bagpipe/index.html | 15:29 |
| tmorin | (to some degree only, as they don't have all details) | 15:29 |
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| bobmel | Yes I have had a look at that one. | 15:31 |
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| bobmel | So what you wrote above describes what should happen in the single node setup? | 15:31 |
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| tmorin | yes | 15:33 |
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| tmorin | in a multinode setup, the path would be : node A [ br-int -> br-tun -> br-mpls ] --> -- (phy or GRE) --> node B [ br-mpls -> br-tun -> br-int] | 15:34 |
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| bobmel | I wonder if it is maybe the route targets config that prevents the ping to work | 15:37 |
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| tmorin | can you do a "bagpipe-looking-glass -r" and put the output on paste.openstack.org ? | 15:38 |
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| bobmel | on sec | 15:40 |
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| bobmel | http://paste.openstack.org/show/589301/ | 15:42 |
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| bobmel | The devstack host IP is 172.16.6.20 | 15:44 |
| tmorin | vpns / instances is empty | 15:45 |
| bobmel | Lots of those OpenWaitTimeout messages in hte log | 15:45 |
| tmorin | it means that the bagpipe_bgpvpn agent extension passed no BGP VPN attachement information to bagpipe-bgp | 15:45 |
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| tmorin | you can ignore these OpenWaitTimeout message: bagpipe-bgp is trying to connect its default BGP peer, but we don't need any in a single node setup (I think we should actually get rid of this default BGP peer setup) | 15:46 |
| bobmel | Ok, got it. | 15:46 |
| tmorin | so its likely that the bagpipe_bgpvpn agent extension has no BGPVPN attachement information | 15:46 |
| tmorin | do you see warnings in q-agt.log ? | 15:47 |
| bobmel | Let me check | 15:47 |
| bobmel | No warnings | 15:49 |
| bobmel | I see lines like this: | 15:49 |
| bobmel | bagpipe-bgp client request: GET ping [None | 15:49 |
| bobmel | bagpipe-bgp returns [200:96867148709979766103418085043297248131] | 15:50 |
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| bobmel | bagpipe-bgp PING response received with sequence number 96867148709979766103418085043297248131 f | 15:50 |
| tmorin | it simply means that bagpipe_bgpvpn extension can properly talk to bagpipe-bgp | 15:50 |
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| bobmel | Ok | 15:50 |
| tmorin | the sequence number is used to let the agent extension know when/if bagpipe-bgp restarts | 15:50 |
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| tmorin | if you grep for 'bagpipe' in q-agt.log, you should see RPCs about BGP VPNs | 15:51 |
| tmorin | assuming that Neutron is actually sending thos | 15:51 |
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| tmorin | those | 15:52 |
| tmorin | but you could first confirm that (checking about warnings/errors in q-svc.log, grepping for bagpipe) | 15:52 |
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| bobmel | Here's some output from the q-agt log | 15:55 |
| bobmel | http://paste.openstack.org/show/589303/ | 15:55 |
| tmorin | based on these logs you should have vpn attachment defined in bagpipe-bgp | 15:55 |
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| tmorin | "bagpipe-looking-glass summary vpn_instances_count" should give you something different from 0 | 15:56 |
| bobmel | so it should be visible in the looking glass? | 15:56 |
| tmorin | but you had zero in the output you sent earlier | 15:56 |
| tmorin | yes | 15:56 |
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| bobmel | it return 0 | 15:57 |
| bobmel | odd | 15:57 |
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| bobmel | RPC to the q-agent for bagpipe driver, is that triggered when a network is attached to the vpn? | 15:59 |
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| tmorin | yes | 15:59 |
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| bobmel | Is there a way to restart bagpipe itself? | 15:59 |
| tmorin | or when a Port goes active | 15:59 |
| bobmel | Ok, got it. | 16:00 |
| tmorin | in screen, b-bgp tab, stop restart | 16:00 |
| tmorin | yes | 16:00 |
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| tmorin | is the q-agt.log that you sent complete, I'm surprised to see nothing after the last line | 16:00 |
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| bobmel | No, it was a subset of it | 16:01 |
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| adrian_otto | time to wrap up? | 16:01 |
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| tmorin | #endmeeting bgpvpn | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 15 16:01:40 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-11-15-15.13.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-11-15-15.13.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-11-15-15.13.log.html | 16:01 |
| tmorin | adrian_otto: sorry about that | 16:01 |
| adrian_otto | thanks tmorin | 16:01 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 15 16:02:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:02 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2016-11-15_1600_UTC Our Agenda | 16:02 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 16:02 |
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| Drago1 | o/ | 16:02 |
| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 16:02 |
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| jvgrant | Jaycen Grant | 16:02 |
| hongbin | o/ | 16:02 |
| tonanhngo | Ton Ngo | 16:02 |
| strigazi | Spyros Trigazis | 16:02 |
| * pc_m lurking | 16:02 | |
| rochaporto | Ricardo Rocha | 16:02 |
| hieulq_ | o/ Hieu LE | 16:02 |
| yatin_ | Yatin Karel | 16:02 |
| mjura | Michal Jura | 16:02 |
| randallburt | o/ | 16:02 |
| jasond | o/ | 16:02 |
| rpothier | o/ | 16:03 |
| mvelten | Mathieu Velten | 16:03 |
| Drago | Wow, hey everybody! | 16:03 |
| adrian_otto | hello Drago jvgrant hongbin tonanhngo strigazi pc_m rochaporto hieulq_ yatin_ mjura randallburt jasond rpothier and mvelten | 16:03 |
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| adrian_otto | nice sized group today. | 16:03 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 16:04 |
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| adrian_otto | 1) Welcome to our new core reviewers jvgrant and yatin | 16:04 |
| randallburt | congrats! | 16:04 |
| tonanhngo | Welcome Jaycent, Yatin! | 16:04 |
| hieulq_ | congrats yatin_ and jvgrant | 16:04 |
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| hongbin | welcome | 16:04 |
| mjura | congratulations | 16:04 |
| adrian_otto | we are glad that you have both stepped up to this expanded role on our team | 16:04 |
| jvgrant | Thanks! | 16:05 |
| yatin_ | Thanks | 16:05 |
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| adrian_otto | I've touched base with both jvgrant and yatin_ and I'll do my best to keep our core team closely engaged | 16:05 |
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| adrian_otto | 2) Reminder: we will not hold a team meeting on 2016-11-22, but will regroup again on 2016-11-29 | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | any other announcements from our team members? | 16:06 |
| strigazi | one small one | 16:07 |
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| adrian_otto | proceed! | 16:07 |
| strigazi | The magnum-specs repo is configured an ready, please review the initial commits | 16:07 |
| strigazi | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395673/ | 16:07 |
| strigazi | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395674/ | 16:07 |
| strigazi | that's it | 16:07 |
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| adrian_otto | thanks strigazi | 16:08 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 16:09 |
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| adrian_otto | (none) | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas | 16:09 |
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| adrian_otto | now, before we dive in here, some historical context | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | in this section we normally cover our essential blueprints for the cycle | 16:10 |
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| adrian_otto | and address points of discussion that we want to carry on as a team | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | I wanted to check with all of you to get your input on which blueprints should be marked as essential in this cycle | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | note that this is a short cycle, and will be done in Feb | 16:10 |
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| adrian_otto | so the question is what do we think is critical to complete by January | 16:11 |
| adrian_otto | thoughts? | 16:11 |
| randallburt | not to be a broken record but https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389835/ | 16:11 |
| rochaporto | did we add a list like that in the summit discussion? somewhere in the etherpad? | 16:11 |
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| adrian_otto | we made an effort to target blueprints to this cycle | 16:12 |
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| adrian_otto | but as a team we have not prioritized them | 16:12 |
| tonanhngo | should we look at a list and vote? | 16:12 |
| mvelten | in the small stuffs but anoying department I am working on finishing this : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/run-kube-as-container | 16:12 |
| adrian_otto | randallburt: acknowledged | 16:12 |
| adrian_otto | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/ocata | 16:12 |
| adrian_otto | this is the current list | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | does this look like the right list to you? | 16:13 |
| hongbin | do we have a bp for coe upgrade? | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | hongbin: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/cluster-upgrades is that | 16:13 |
| Drago | hongbin: cluster-upgrades | 16:13 |
| strigazi | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/cluster-upgrades | 16:13 |
| hongbin | ok | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | it's currently a high priority | 16:13 |
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| hongbin | sound good | 16:14 |
| strigazi | but it depends on two BPs | 16:14 |
| strigazi | flatten-attributes | 16:14 |
| strigazi | and template-versioning | 16:14 |
| strigazi | I'm working already on flatten-attributes | 16:14 |
| adrian_otto | so we should mark those as high as well | 16:14 |
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| jvgrant | template-versioning will follow the flatten-attributes once it is far enough along. the nodegroup bp needs both of those as well | 16:15 |
| Drago | I am not sure how it's normally handled, but nodegroups is based on work in flatten-attributes. Does flatten-attributes need to be essential? | 16:15 |
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| adrian_otto | yes | 16:16 |
| adrian_otto | okay, so starting in our next team meeting, I will be asking the assignee of each essential blueprint to give an update to the team about the progress made toward each during the previous work period | 16:17 |
| rochaporto | this one too: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/run-kube-as-container | 16:17 |
| Drago | Okay, good to know. I think that the nodegroup work will continue to be split up into more sub-blueprints | 16:17 |
| adrian_otto | we need to make measured forward progress to get these done for the release | 16:17 |
| rochaporto | this currently makes moving to more recent version of kubernetes harder | 16:17 |
| strigazi | adrian_otto, please assign the flatten-attributes to me | 16:17 |
| adrian_otto | and it's totally fine to break these up and give status on those parts | 16:17 |
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| adrian_otto | strigazi: ok | 16:17 |
| mvelten | currently scheduler and controller-manager are running as containers but not the api-server and the kubelet. which means that we are not running the same version since the apiserver and kubelet are coming from the rpm. | 16:17 |
| jvgrant | template-versioning should at least be high or essential since it is needed for cluster-upgrades and nodegroups | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | strigazi: done | 16:18 |
| Drago | I think we should at least create a blueprint for the image automation work we discussed, because magnum adoption should be a high priority, and it would enable things like run-kube-as-container | 16:18 |
| Drago | We are still running k8s 1.2 in the fedora atomic driver | 16:18 |
| strigazi | if we move in containers kube will be removed from the image | 16:19 |
| adrian_otto | jvgrant: okay, I upgraded template-versioning | 16:19 |
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| adrian_otto | to Essential | 16:19 |
| jvgrant | thanks | 16:19 |
| rochaporto | +1 strigazi | 16:19 |
| adrian_otto | Drago: can you submit at least a high level outline blueprint for that? | 16:19 |
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| Drago | adrian_otto: Sure | 16:19 |
| adrian_otto | thanks Drago | 16:20 |
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| hongbin | mvelten: rochaporto : for run-kube-as-conainer, we tried it before, but couldn't pass the gate: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251158/ | 16:20 |
| hongbin | mvelten: rochaporto possibly because the vm in the gate is too small | 16:20 |
| strigazi | Drago, what kind of extra automation? I think upgrading Docker isn't something that we can predict how it will work | 16:20 |
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| Drago | strigazi: What we talked about at the summit. | 16:21 |
| rochaporto | hongbin: seen that, mvelten restarted the work on it | 16:21 |
| Drago | Creating images that use upstream (COE) packages | 16:21 |
| adrian_otto | what about solving that using a third party CI for testing the kubernetes cluster driver? | 16:21 |
| adrian_otto | that way it could run on bare metal on systems large enough to actually test the code properly. | 16:22 |
| rochaporto | Drago,adrian_otto: this is not related to image automation | 16:22 |
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| adrian_otto | it could speed up the pace at which we iterate on that driver by reducing the duration of each text cycle | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | *test | 16:23 |
| Drago | rochaporto: What do you mean by "this"? And I think that anything we're talking about is valid to discuss if it's essential | 16:23 |
| mvelten | thx hongbin I have a prototype working for both api-server and kubelet (tls off, directly on top of heat). I dont know yet if the CI is a problem I am fighting devstack to do proper testing | 16:23 |
| rochaporto | Drago: sorry, i meant the change for kube in containers | 16:23 |
| Drago | rochaporto: Ok | 16:23 |
| mvelten | but anyway an external CI on barmetal would be great | 16:24 |
| adrian_otto | does anyone think an external CI per cluster driver is a bad idea? | 16:25 |
| tonanhngo | How do we do this? | 16:25 |
| adrian_otto | we don't have to tackle it right now, but I'd like to get your feelings on if that's something we should aim for over time | 16:25 |
| Drago | We need a third party CI to have multi-node, correct? | 16:25 |
| adrian_otto | Drago: yes, for now | 16:25 |
| strigazi | and what if this third party stops providing the CI? | 16:25 |
| yatin_ | mvelten: have you run kubelet running under container | 16:26 |
| tonanhngo | This should open the door for more functional tests | 16:26 |
| adrian_otto | infra might offer something at come point, but it's going to use VMs | 16:26 |
| mvelten | yatin_: yes. in privileged mode with net=host and pid=host and some volumes mapping | 16:26 |
| adrian_otto | strigazi: that's a valid concern. I think the short answer is taht we'd need to address that concern at the time it materialized. | 16:27 |
| yatin_ | mvelten: http://kubernetes.io/docs/getting-started-guides/scratch/#selecting-images | 16:27 |
| Drago | Make CERN the third party :) | 16:27 |
| adrian_otto | LOL | 16:27 |
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| randallburt | lol | 16:28 |
| hongbin | i think we should have at least two third-party | 16:28 |
| strigazi | I have a tichet for that for some time :( | 16:28 |
| hongbin | if one of them drop, the other will still work. | 16:28 |
| adrian_otto | yeah, maybe thr right answer is that capacity should be donated by more than one participant | 16:28 |
| adrian_otto | so that we could continue to run it even if one needed to be dropped. | 16:28 |
| strigazi | so HA? | 16:29 |
| adrian_otto | hongbin and I are totally in sync today! | 16:29 |
| adrian_otto | strigazi: yes | 16:29 |
| adrian_otto | or have two and alternate back and forth per commit | 16:29 |
| Drago | hongbin: +1 | 16:29 |
| mvelten | yatin_: yes I use the hyperkube image | 16:29 |
| mvelten | yep nice idea adrian | 16:30 |
| rochaporto | initially we were adding only for baremetal tests here | 16:30 |
| adrian_otto | something like that... we don't have to solve all the details right now, but I like that conceptually. | 16:30 |
| mvelten | BM or at least VM with nested KVM | 16:30 |
| adrian_otto | so before we get too far down this path I'd like to come back the the blueprint that randallburt raised for discussion: https://review.openstack.org/389835 | 16:31 |
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| adrian_otto | there has been great progress on this in the past week | 16:31 |
| Drago | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/bp-driver-consolodation | 16:31 |
| adrian_otto | does everyone here feel like it's time to pull off the WIP status of 389835 and consider the spec for merge? | 16:32 |
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| adrian_otto | should it be resubmitted for the spec repo, or land it as-is? | 16:32 |
| strigazi | I think the bp url should be bp-driver-encapsulation | 16:32 |
| strigazi | in magnum-specs rebased on | 16:32 |
| adrian_otto | my understanding is that our spec repo is not yet usable. Is that still true? | 16:32 |
| strigazi | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395674/ | 16:33 |
| strigazi | it is usable | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto | oh, sweet. | 16:33 |
| strigazi | just create a dir specs/ocata | 16:33 |
| strigazi | can push an empty dir | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto | okay, so we can abandon https://review.openstack.org/389835 and resubmit to openstack/magnum-specs in specs/ocata | 16:34 |
| randallburt | can I just push with the new directory and spec? | 16:34 |
| strigazi | yes | 16:34 |
| adrian_otto | yes, you can randallburt | 16:34 |
| randallburt | cool. will sort that today then. | 16:34 |
| strigazi | just rebase on my patch | 16:34 |
| randallburt | strigazi: will do | 16:34 |
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| Drago | Most +2s for an abandoned patch ever | 16:35 |
| randallburt | lol | 16:35 |
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| mvelten | :D | 16:35 |
| jvgrant | hmmm... there is lots of good discussion there, is it better that we merge the specs still under review first then push them over to new repo? | 16:35 |
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| tonanhngo | rebase should preserve? | 16:36 |
| strigazi | we can merge both | 16:36 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so is there any additional input we should consider on 395957 before going through the merge process? | 16:36 |
| mvelten | it is still in the gerrit anyway if needed | 16:36 |
| strigazi | tonanhngo, no it's another repo | 16:36 |
| randallburt | there's a wip implementation patch up already if folks want to review. will have a follow on today sometime | 16:37 |
| strigazi | but the history in gerrit won't be lost | 16:37 |
| Drago | adrian_otto: 395957?? | 16:37 |
| yatin_ | strigazi: currently magnum-specs contains specs from which release | 16:37 |
| adrian_otto | Drago: oops, I meant 389835 | 16:37 |
| strigazi | yatin_, we didn't have release directories before | 16:38 |
| yatin_ | strigazi: Ok so it's common | 16:38 |
| tonanhngo | we should merge both then, to preserve the discussion for future reference. | 16:38 |
| strigazi | yatin_, yes, but since ocate we can have dirs | 16:38 |
| randallburt | abandoning won't remove the discussion. it wil be in gerrit forever. I'll add a note in the abandon that its moved | 16:38 |
| yatin_ | strigazi: (y) | 16:39 |
| mvelten | randallburt: +1 | 16:39 |
| randallburt | can also add a link in the spec itself to the original patch | 16:39 |
| Drago | randallburt: Maybe also link back to the abandoned patch in the new patch | 16:39 |
| Drago | +1 | 16:39 |
| tonanhngo | ok, that works too | 16:39 |
| jasond | Drago: +1 | 16:39 |
| yatin_ | +1 | 16:39 |
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| Drago | Was the original question about essential blueprints? | 16:40 |
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| adrian_otto | leave the 389835 alone | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | we will abandon that one,a dn you can link to that from the one in the new review | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so I'd like to wrap up this agenda item, and move to open discussion in a moment | 16:40 |
| yatin_ | mvelten: Ok, let's see how it works now, earlier there were some issues with running kubelet in container maybe they are resolved now. | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | anything else we want to cover here? | 16:40 |
| mvelten | yatin_ do you have any pointers of failing use cases ? so I can test ? | 16:41 |
| yatin_ | mvenlten: Ok i will check and get back to you. | 16:41 |
| yatin_ | in meeting we have limited time. | 16:42 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 16:42 |
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| mvelten | perfect thx. you can ping me through strigazi if I am not there ;) | 16:42 |
| yatin_ | mvelten: Ok | 16:43 |
| yatin_ | please check whiteboard and suggest: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/secure-etcd-cluster-coe | 16:43 |
| strigazi | adrian_otto, I have one more thing | 16:43 |
| adrian_otto | yes strigazi ? | 16:43 |
| hieulq_ | mvelten, I got some trouble when running kubelet in container with hyperkube 1.0.1 | 16:43 |
| strigazi | at CERN we have custom cluster drivers | 16:44 |
| strigazi | and currently we modify the upstream ones | 16:44 |
| hieulq_ | mvelten, iirc one is related to cadvisor | 16:44 |
| strigazi | we don't have extra | 16:44 |
| strigazi | We would like to manage them as separate packages in our case rpms | 16:44 |
| hieulq_ | mvelten, I can recheck and send you feedback | 16:44 |
| strigazi | but it applies to all distros | 16:44 |
| hieulq_ | mvelten, but seems like 1.4 solved it | 16:45 |
| strigazi | If we have custome driver, extra ones, we would like not to install the upstream ones | 16:45 |
| rochaporto | yatin_: we run flat/provider networks, so we can't have ports only on private networks | 16:45 |
| mvelten | yatin_ indeed this unprotected etcd is not cool. kube as container should allow to use upstream vanilla 1.2.x which perhaps supports the tls arguments, TBC | 16:45 |
| mvelten | yes tls please :) | 16:46 |
| strigazi | so, I discussed with rdo to change the packages and they proposed two solutions | 16:46 |
| adrian_otto | ok | 16:46 |
| strigazi | to have packages per cluster_driver | 16:46 |
| randallburt | we'd have to separate the drivers into their own repos or at least directories | 16:47 |
| strigazi | one is to have a separate repo | 16:47 |
| strigazi | and the other is to not create the entrypoints byt default | 16:47 |
| adrian_otto | what do you mean by the "entrypoints"? | 16:47 |
| randallburt | adrian_otto: in the setup.cfg | 16:48 |
| strigazi | https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/master/setup.cfg#L47 | 16:48 |
| strigazi | randallburt :) | 16:48 |
| adrian_otto | ok, got it | 16:48 |
| rochaporto | the latter is simpler? | 16:48 |
| strigazi | sorry L61 | 16:48 |
| randallburt | simpler for us, not for users | 16:48 |
| rochaporto | we can keep core drivers in tree and any other out of tree | 16:49 |
| rochaporto | neutron style | 16:49 |
| randallburt | its not about where the drivers are so much as where the entry points are | 16:49 |
| strigazi | randallburt, why it's not simple for users? | 16:49 |
| yatin_ | rochaporto: i think some drivers currently do that. | 16:49 |
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| strigazi | users = ops? | 16:49 |
| randallburt | strigazi: because users installing Magnum have to update setup.cfg. | 16:49 |
| randallburt | yes | 16:49 |
| adrian_otto | so it's really about https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/master/setup.cfg#L61 | 16:49 |
| strigazi | adrian_otto yes | 16:49 |
| randallburt | so packaging becomes a bit of a pain | 16:49 |
| adrian_otto | so if we use an auto-discovery technique for loading those (stevedore possibly) | 16:50 |
| strigazi | you do apt-get install magnum-api magnum-swarm-atomic magnum-k8s-atomic | 16:50 |
| adrian_otto | then they don't need to be explicitly listed in the config | 16:50 |
| randallburt | I got no dog in this fight tbh, but IMO, the "right" way is separate repo for the default drivers | 16:50 |
| strigazi | stevedore discovers the now | 16:50 |
| adrian_otto | and if you added a package you could make them show up ang get included by the system at startup | 16:50 |
| randallburt | adrian_otto: we are using stevedore, that's what the entry points are for | 16:51 |
| yatin_ | mvelten: Yes, i also checked parameters are available for v1.2.x but i think current image has not stable release version | 16:51 |
| adrian_otto | so have one point that can include others? | 16:51 |
| strigazi | adrian_otto, didn't get this | 16:51 |
| randallburt | adrian_otto: no, the point is we're registering the default plugins by default in magnum's setup.cfg. What would be more modular is to have the plugins in their own modules that are installed separately witht heir own setup.cfg | 16:52 |
| strigazi | now if you install another drivers it is discovered by magnum | 16:52 |
| strigazi | randallburt, the driver will be in tree | 16:52 |
| mvelten | yatin_ indeed the rpm packaged version is a weird stuff the packaged commit is not even on a public branch. That is also why I want to move away from it... | 16:52 |
| randallburt | strigazi: sure, then its a question of refactoring the repo | 16:53 |
| strigazi | but the package will not include the drivers in the magnum-common or python-magnum | 16:53 |
| strigazi | I'm not sure what is best, the rdo folks said that separate repo is cleaner | 16:54 |
| randallburt | I would agree with that | 16:54 |
| yatin_ | mvelten: Agree. Yes, going to containers is good, but container image size are too much, downloading over the internet for each node looks not good, but i think there is another bp for that. | 16:54 |
| rochaporto | any drawbacks of moving them in their own repo? versioning? | 16:54 |
| randallburt | that being said, we've had this same discussion in Heat wrt keeping the resource plugins separate from the engine and installed via separate packages, and we've never actually done it | 16:55 |
| strigazi | We can discuss it a bit further in the ML | 16:55 |
| adrian_otto | yes, a separate repo is cleaner. | 16:55 |
| strigazi | what do you think? | 16:55 |
| adrian_otto | this is a good ML topic | 16:55 |
| adrian_otto | and I'd like to see the packager's input on this there | 16:56 |
| strigazi | I think debian would also say separate | 16:56 |
| strigazi | I mentioned it some months before | 16:56 |
| adrian_otto | that's my expectation too. I can help you find the right person to ask if you need to get that answer. | 16:56 |
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| strigazi | I know the debian and rdo folks, sould I start a thread? | 16:57 |
| adrian_otto | has cinder broken all of its drivers into separate repos? | 16:57 |
| adrian_otto | strigazi: yes please | 16:57 |
| adrian_otto | I have always felt that approach would make sense | 16:57 |
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| strigazi | #action strigazi to start a ML thread about cluster-drivers repo | 16:58 |
| rochaporto | we run our own for neutron, code is in a local repo | 16:58 |
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| mvelten | yatin_ the plumbing is already there to pull from a "local" repo if it is a problem. and we can switch from hyperkube to kubelet for the nodes since they dont need the rest of the code (500mo vs 130 if I remember) | 16:58 |
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| adrian_otto | Thanks everyone for attending today. Our next meeting will be on 2016-11-29 at 1600 UTC. See you then! | 16:59 |
| mvelten | see you ! enjoy thanksgiving | 16:59 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 15 16:59:45 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-11-15-16.02.html | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-11-15-16.02.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-11-15-16.02.log.html | 16:59 |
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| Drago | Thanks, mvelten! | 16:59 |
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| adrian_otto | thanks mvelten | 17:00 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #startmeeting murano | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 15 17:01:58 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kzaitsev_mb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:02 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #topic rollcall | 17:02 |
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| DmytroDovbii | o/ | 17:02 |
| DmytroDovbii | =) | 17:02 |
| kzaitsev_mb | DmytroDovbii: hi there! =) | 17:02 |
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| tlashchova | o/ | 17:02 |
| vakovalchuk | 0/ | 17:02 |
| kzaitsev_mb | how have you been doing guys? =) | 17:03 |
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| DmytroDovbii | not bad :) | 17:03 |
| vakovalchuk | I'm doing fine, thank you :) | 17:03 |
| DmytroDovbii | what about you and murano?) | 17:03 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | DmytroDovbii: well, still here as you see ) | 17:04 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I've got a request from ttx about our needs for the PTG in Atlanta, and whether we would need a separate room (since we qualify for one I guess) | 17:05 |
| kzaitsev_mb | was going to answer that right after our meeting ) | 17:05 |
| kzaitsev_mb | but generally I don't think we really need one | 17:06 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I assume you guys are not coming? (it's a little bit too far) | 17:06 |
| kzaitsev_mb | probably | 17:06 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | vakovalchuk: DmytroDovbii: tlashchova: http://www.openstack.org/ptg | 17:07 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #topic PTG | 17:09 |
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| DmytroDovbii | yeah, you're right | 17:09 |
| DmytroDovbii | :( | 17:09 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #link http://www.openstack.org/ptg | 17:10 |
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| DmytroDovbii | but I am talking only about myself :) | 17:10 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I'm inclining to say that we would not use a separate room | 17:11 |
| tlashchova | looks interesting but it's really too far | 17:11 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | but I would try my best to come nevertheless ) ZeroByte promised to come and he had a bunch of things to discuss ) | 17:12 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | with that out of the way — back to AI's I had from prev time | 17:14 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #topic Action Items Review | 17:14 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I haven't implemented any of them =( | 17:14 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | shame on me | 17:14 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #action kzaitsev_mb write a summary on BCN | 17:14 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #action kzaitsev_mb implement alternating meeting time | 17:15 |
| kzaitsev_mb | better late than never ) would do my best to sort those out | 17:15 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #topic Cores | 17:15 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I have a short announcement, that I want to review our cores for inactive ones | 17:17 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | and I'm going to nominate one of our colleagues from at&t most likely Felipe Monteiro =) | 17:18 |
| kzaitsev_mb | the guys have been doing really great things with our test coverage ) | 17:19 |
| kzaitsev_mb | so if there are any objections to that — please voice them =) | 17:19 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | ok, I assume there are none =) | 17:33 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #topic Open Discussion | 17:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:33 | |
| kzaitsev_mb | don't have anything particular — so would wait 10 more mins =) | 17:33 |
| kzaitsev_mb | if no one shows up with topics to discuss — would end the meeting soon ) | 17:34 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | ok, probably that's it | 17:40 |
| kzaitsev_mb | DmytroDovbii: tlashchova: thanks for joinging ;) | 17:41 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #endmeeting | 17:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:41 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 15 17:41:37 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-11-15-17.01.html | 17:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-11-15-17.01.txt | 17:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-11-15-17.01.log.html | 17:41 |
| DmytroDovbii | kzaitsev_mb: :) | 17:42 |
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| catherineD | #startmeeting refstack | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 15 19:01:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:01 |
| pvaneck | o/ | 19:01 |
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| catherineD | #link meeting agenda and notes, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-11-15 | 19:04 |
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| pvaneck | hmm, etherpad seems to be unresponsive right now. | 19:06 |
| pvaneck | im assuming you have the agenda at least? | 19:06 |
| catherineD | yea ... please try again ... it works for me | 19:07 |
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| catherineD | we have a short agenda anyway for today | 19:07 |
| catherineD | let's start ... I can just paste the topic here | 19:09 |
| catherineD | #topic Tempest config script | 19:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tempest config script (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:09 | |
| catherineD | so we will have a hangout meeting tomorrow : Meeting on Wednesday: Nov 16 at 17 UTC | 19:10 |
| catherineD | #link Google HangOut: https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/ZGFuaWVsbWVsbGFkb2FyZWFAZ21haWwuY29t.nqn0fn4apnhnug9r0d95uc450c | 19:10 |
| catherineD | meeting call by dmellado: | 19:11 |
| catherineD | please try to attend ... | 19:11 |
| catherineD | moving on ... | 19:12 |
| catherineD | #topic Project Team Gathering (PTG) | 19:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Project Team Gathering (PTG) (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:12 | |
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| catherineD | I did not request for room for the last round ... we still have a chance if we need a room and the RefStack team members will be at PTG ... | 19:13 |
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| catherineD | since not a lot of people here, I guess I will send an email .. | 19:15 |
| pvaneck | deadline for room requests is when? | 19:16 |
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| catherineD | I think so .. . not sure a any of the RefStack team members will attend the PTG | 19:17 |
| pvaneck | probably wont need a room then. not sure if there would be too much to discuss to warrant it | 19:18 |
| catherineD | maybe to make sure .. I will send email asking whether any one will attend before declining the room request | 19:18 |
| pvaneck | sounds good | 19:18 |
| catherineD | moving on .. | 19:19 |
| catherineD | #topic Open discussion | 19:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:19 | |
| catherineD | any other topic to discuss ? | 19:20 |
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| pvaneck | i see that sergey's patch is no longer WIP, so we should review that | 19:20 |
| pvaneck | a feature we talked about having a while back | 19:20 |
| catherineD | yea totally agree .. that is a good feature to add . | 19:21 |
| catherineD | thanks Sergey for working on that | 19:21 |
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| catherineD | any thing else? | 19:23 |
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| pvaneck | nothing here | 19:23 |
| catherineD | thanks ... | 19:23 |
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| catherineD | that is it for today ... | 19:23 |
| catherineD | bye | 19:24 |
| catherineD | #endmeeting | 19:24 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 15 19:24:15 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2016/refstack.2016-11-15-19.01.html | 19:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2016/refstack.2016-11-15-19.01.txt | 19:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2016/refstack.2016-11-15-19.01.log.html | 19:24 |
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