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| GeraldK | o/ | 09:01 |
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| masahito | Hi all, time to blazar meeting | 09:01 |
| hiro-kobayashi_ | o/ | 09:01 |
| masahito | #startmeeting blazar | 09:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 17 09:01:33 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is masahito. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'blazar' | 09:01 |
| masahito | priteau won't able to join beginning of today's meeting | 09:02 |
| masahito | This is today's agenda. | 09:02 |
| masahito | 1. Action items from last call | 09:02 |
| r-mibu | hi | 09:02 |
| masahito | 2. CFP of the Boston Summit | 09:02 |
| masahito | 3. Pike PTL election | 09:02 |
| masahito | 4. Status Update | 09:02 |
| hiro-kobayashi_ | r-mibu: hi | 09:03 |
| masahito | anything else? | 09:03 |
| masahito | r-mibu GeraldK hiro-kobayashi_: hi | 09:03 |
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| GeraldK | hi | 09:03 |
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| tejaswi | hi | 09:03 |
| hiro-kobayashi_ | tejaswi: hi | 09:03 |
| masahito | tejaswi: hi | 09:03 |
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| shivacharan | Hi | 09:04 |
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| masahito | ok. move on first item. | 09:04 |
| masahito | #topic action items from last call | 09:04 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "action items from last call (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:04 | |
| masahito | Does anyone have any update for your action item? | 09:05 |
| hiro-kobayashi_ | I updated the item 2: List ideas for a presentation at Boston Summit | 09:05 |
| masahito | Unfortunatlly, openstack bot didn't work well in last meeting. So I lost the log ;-< | 09:05 |
| hiro-kobayashi_ | This will be discussed later | 09:05 |
| GeraldK | it is not on the list: I had presented the Promise gap analysis in yesterday's PWG call. people have an action item to review it by Friday. the general structure seems acceptable | 09:05 |
| hiro-kobayashi_ | Action items are: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/109922.html | 09:06 |
| masahito | hiro-kobayashi_: Thanks :-> | 09:06 |
| priteau | Hello | 09:06 |
| masahito | priteau: Hello | 09:06 |
| priteau | Sorry for my tardiness | 09:06 |
| GeraldK | next step on the user story will then be to setup a cross-project IRC with Nova, Neutron, Blazar | 09:07 |
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| GeraldK | imho, we first should reach a stable state in Blazar, so we don't have to rush that cross-project IRC | 09:07 |
| GeraldK | but it would still be good to discuss the way forward in time | 09:08 |
| hiro-kobayashi_ | GeraldK: +1 | 09:08 |
| hiro-kobayashi_ | GeraldK: Who will facilitate the cross-project IRC? | 09:08 |
| masahito | GeraldK: Do you have the link of the action item in PWG? | 09:08 |
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| GeraldK | masahito: the log of the meeting is here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2017/product_working_group.2017-01-16-21.00.log.html | 09:10 |
| GeraldK | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2017/product_working_group.2017-01-16-21.00.html | 09:10 |
| GeraldK | this is the clean version with the action items | 09:10 |
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| masahito | GeraldK: Thanks. It's nice :-) | 09:11 |
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| GeraldK | hiro-kobayashi: it should be facilitated by the user story owner, that is shamail. as he is more like an interim owner I guess he would be happy for any kind of support on it | 09:12 |
| hiro-kobayashi_ | GeraldK: thanks | 09:12 |
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| GeraldK | i guess we may get more feedback once we have submitted this to the repo | 09:13 |
| masahito | Do we need to do any review as Blazar team? | 09:13 |
| GeraldK | masahito: sure. any feedback comments is appreciated and will help to improve the gap analysis | 09:15 |
| GeraldK | #link https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/promise_gap_analysis | 09:15 |
| masahito | If needed, please let us know. Some of us could support it. | 09:15 |
| GeraldK | Blazar is the main related project in this gap analysis | 09:15 |
| masahito | ok, good. | 09:16 |
| GeraldK | masahito: thanks for your offer. i will do so. | 09:16 |
| masahito | GeraldK: do you have another update? If not, move on hiro-kobayashi_, he seems to have an update. | 09:17 |
| GeraldK | no, that is from my side. | 09:17 |
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| hiro-kobayashi_ | mashito: my updates are about CFP of Boston Summit which is next topic | 09:19 |
| masahito | hiro-kobayashi_: got it. | 09:19 |
| masahito | any update for action items? | 09:19 |
| priteau | masahito: I am still working on the differences between API v1 and v2 | 09:20 |
| priteau | I am seeing typing issues using the v2 API | 09:20 |
| priteau | I will investigate more | 09:20 |
| priteau | It's possible that DB objects created by API v1 are not compatible with v2 | 09:21 |
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| masahito | priteau: meaning we need any DB update migrate v1 to v2 without schema migration? | 09:22 |
| priteau | Maybe, but I am hoping that we can support both if it's only little changes to the types | 09:23 |
| priteau | I will report when I find out more | 09:23 |
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| masahito | priteau: ok. thanks the great work! | 09:23 |
| masahito | ok, move on next. | 09:24 |
| hiro-kobayashi_ | #action all to review Capacity mgmt story gap analysis: https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/promise_gap_analysis | 09:24 |
| masahito | #topic CFP of the Boston Summit | 09:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CFP of the Boston Summit (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:24 | |
| hiro-kobayashi_ | #action priteau to investigate differences between v1 and v2 API | 09:24 |
| masahito | hiro-kobayashi_: thanks | 09:24 |
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| GeraldK | should we put in again all actions from last meeting that are still open to have everything in one place for the next meeting? | 09:25 |
| hiro-kobayashi_ | GeraldK: I think so | 09:25 |
| GeraldK | okay. i will do. | 09:26 |
| masahito | GeraldK: including actions in etherpad? | 09:26 |
| GeraldK | no. just the ones from the meeting minutes of last time. | 09:26 |
| masahito | oh, got it. | 09:26 |
| hiro-kobayashi_ | #action all to share information about PTG if there are any updates | 09:26 |
| r-mibu | well, i got offcial approval for my business trip to PTG | 09:27 |
| GeraldK | #action Decide when to update the namespace after current in-review patches are merged | 09:27 |
| r-mibu | sorry, we are just listing action items... | 09:28 |
| GeraldK | #action Check new features related to OPNFV Promise (All) L139- at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Blazar_status_2016 | 09:28 |
| hiro-kobayashi_ | r-mibu: good to see you at PTG! | 09:29 |
| GeraldK | I think that's it for the open actions from last meeting. let's continue with the CFPs | 09:29 |
| GeraldK | it seems we have 3 proposals. | 09:29 |
| GeraldK | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/blazar-session-boston | 09:30 |
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| GeraldK | what about the proposed presenters? would you agree to this? | 09:30 |
| masahito | the three talks looks good to me. | 09:31 |
| hiro-kobayashi_ | GeraldK: +1 | 09:32 |
| GeraldK | is there someone from HPE in today's meeting? | 09:32 |
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| GeraldK | if not, I will ping them offline w.r.t to the 2nd talk | 09:32 |
| masahito | I saw tejaswi in beginning of this meeting. | 09:33 |
| tejaswi | yes | 09:33 |
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| GeraldK | can we agree on a lead per talk to draft a more concrete proposal? | 09:34 |
| GeraldK | volunteers up :) | 09:34 |
| masahito | GeraldK: +1 | 09:35 |
| hiro-kobayashi_ | I can draft 1 or 2 | 09:35 |
| masahito | #action pick up a talk you want to lead from proposed talks. | 09:35 |
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| GeraldK | proposal for leads: 1) hiro-kobayashi NTT, 2) HPE (tejaswi or Madhu), 4) Pierre | 09:36 |
| hiro-kobayashi_ | GeraldK: I'm ok to lead 1 | 09:37 |
| GeraldK | hiro-kobayashi: +1 | 09:37 |
| priteau | GeraldK: I am not sure if there is enough content for a full talk for 4) | 09:38 |
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| tejaswi | I am not sure whether Madhu will be able to come to the meeting | 09:38 |
| tejaswi | I will ask and let you guys know | 09:38 |
| GeraldK | priteau, tejaswi: okay. can you please update the page by Friday? | 09:39 |
| GeraldK | and preferrably inform the team by email such that we can find another lead | 09:40 |
| tejaswi | ok | 09:40 |
| priteau | and the use case for Blazar in Chameleon is not HPC. It's for reproducible / repeatable computer science experiments | 09:40 |
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| priteau | I would be happy to help with talk 1) | 09:41 |
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| GeraldK | priteau: thanks. | 09:42 |
| priteau | I +1 the comment about merging 4) in 1) or 2) | 09:42 |
| masahito | priteau: thanks. | 09:43 |
| GeraldK | I assume that all proposed presenters (if they agree to be a presenter) will support the preparations. | 09:43 |
| r-mibu | yes, +1 | 09:43 |
| hiro-kobayashi_ | GeraldK: +1 | 09:43 |
| masahito | +1 | 09:43 |
| priteau | of course | 09:44 |
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| masahito | Anyway, everyone try to update the abstract in the etherpad and make it concrete. | 09:44 |
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| hiro-kobayashi_ | Okay | 09:45 |
| hiro-kobayashi_ | So, finally we will make 2 proposals? | 09:45 |
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| GeraldK | okay for me. | 09:45 |
| priteau | sounds good | 09:46 |
| masahito | If there is not enough content. | 09:46 |
| r-mibu | or, maybe you can merge into one depends on contents, i think | 09:46 |
| GeraldK | r-mibu: +1 | 09:47 |
| hiro-kobayashi_ | +1 | 09:47 |
| masahito | +1 | 09:48 |
| priteau | +1 | 09:48 |
| masahito | #action write down the details of the proposed talks, 1. and 2., then check the contents | 09:49 |
| masahito | is the action right? | 09:49 |
| hiro-kobayashi_ | +1 | 09:49 |
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| GeraldK | +1 | 09:50 |
| priteau | +1 | 09:50 |
| r-mibu | +1 | 09:50 |
| masahito | thanks lots of +1 ;-) | 09:50 |
| GeraldK | timecheck 10mins only | 09:50 |
| masahito | GeraldK: | 09:50 |
| masahito | GeraldK: thanks | 09:50 |
| masahito | anything else on CFP? | 09:51 |
| masahito | good. move on next. | 09:51 |
| masahito | #topic Pike PTL election | 09:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Pike PTL election (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:52 | |
| masahito | It's just information for us. | 09:52 |
| masahito | I noticed Pike cycle PTLs self-nomination will happen in next week. | 09:53 |
| masahito | According to the release schedule: https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 09:54 |
| hiro-kobayashi_ | #link https://governance.openstack.org/election/ | 09:54 |
| r-mibu | we need new/active PTL for blazar | 09:54 |
| masahito | if you're interested, don't forget to nominate it. | 09:54 |
| masahito | r-mibu: yup. | 09:54 |
| masahito | I'll ping current PTL for blazar, too. | 09:56 |
| masahito | any comments or questions on PTL election? | 09:57 |
| masahito | looks nothing. | 09:57 |
| masahito | #topic status update | 09:57 |
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| masahito | last three mins, so if you have any update, feel free to write down here :-) | 09:58 |
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| priteau | Just mentioning that we're close to having a functional DevStack installation | 09:59 |
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| masahito | priteau: yes. we have good progress. | 09:59 |
| r-mibu | priteau: cool | 09:59 |
| hiro-kobayashi_ | priteau: thanks for your works | 10:00 |
| priteau | Thanks for the reviews :-) | 10:00 |
| masahito | runs out of time. | 10:00 |
| GeraldK | thanks for the work. don't forget to review the open patches. some of them need workflow | 10:01 |
| masahito | thanks all. | 10:01 |
| masahito | GeraldK: yup. | 10:01 |
| GeraldK | #action review the open patches (all) | 10:01 |
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| masahito | #endmeeting | 10:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 10:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 17 10:01:43 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-01-17-09.01.html | 10:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-01-17-09.01.txt | 10:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-01-17-09.01.log.html | 10:01 |
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| hiro-kobayashi_ | thank you all, bye | 10:02 |
| priteau | good bye! | 10:02 |
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| GeraldK | bye | 10:02 |
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| EmilienM | #startmeeting tripleo | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 17 14:00:23 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:00 | |
| jrist | o/ | 14:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | #topic agenda | 14:00 |
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| EmilienM | * review past action items | 14:00 |
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| EmilienM | * one off agenda items | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * bugs | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * Projects releases or stable backports | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * CI | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * Specs | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * open discussion | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | hello, who is around today? | 14:00 |
| trown | o/ | 14:00 |
| jpich | o/ | 14:00 |
| beagles | o/ | 14:00 |
| matbu | o/ | 14:00 |
| panda | o/ | 14:00 |
| arxcruz | o/ | 14:00 |
| Ng | o/ | 14:01 |
| mwhahaha | o/ | 14:01 |
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| ccamacho | hi! | 14:01 |
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| EmilienM | I'll let people take a seat and review past action it in meantime | 14:01 |
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| sshnaidm | o/ | 14:01 |
| marios | o/ | 14:01 |
| EmilienM | #topic review past action items | 14:01 |
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| owalsh | o/ | 14:01 |
| thrash | o/ | 14:01 |
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| gfidente | o/ | 14:01 |
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| shardy | o/ | 14:01 |
| EmilienM | EmilienM to help debug upgrade job timeout wrt haproxy config update: done (job has been promoted to check-nv) | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | team to look http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/109600.html and give feedback: done | 14:02 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | team to look https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359060/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415179/ + give feedback: done by gfidente | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | ci squad to move the tripleo-quickstart upgrade job into periodic pipeline: in progress | 14:02 |
| fultonj | o/ | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | trown: or is it done ^ ? | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | team to review capture-environment-status-and-logs blueprint: 405001 and 405002: done by d0ugal | 14:03 |
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| bandini | o/ | 14:03 |
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| EmilienM | anything else? | 14:03 |
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| EmilienM | #topic one off agenda items | 14:04 |
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| trown | EmilienM: I dont think so... I have not payed attention to that one though... sshnaidm panda? | 14:04 |
| EmilienM | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-meeting-items | 14:04 |
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| sshnaidm | trown, no, it's still on review afaik, matbu ? | 14:04 |
| EmilienM | arxcruz, panda: o/ | 14:04 |
| panda | trown: nope | 14:04 |
| weshay | 0/ | 14:04 |
| d0ugal | o/ | 14:04 |
| panda | EmilienM: hey | 14:04 |
| rbrady | o/ | 14:04 |
| EmilienM | panda: go ahead | 14:04 |
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| weshay | matbu, ^ | 14:05 |
| panda | so we have two patches https://review.openstack.org/420647 https://review.openstack.org/420620 in place to replace the current periodic tempest job | 14:05 |
| matbu | sshnaidm: review are still waiting for vote :( | 14:05 |
| weshay | EmilienM, at the moment it's running internally.. looking to see if oooq upgrade job in upstream is a requirement | 14:05 |
| panda | the infra patch already got the approval from infra, but then we needed to add something more | 14:05 |
| EmilienM | panda: ok, something needs to be discussed or some actions taken? | 14:06 |
| matbu | EmilienM: sshnaidm i'll probably need to update the quickstart one, some services has been added last week | 14:06 |
| EmilienM | or it's just announcement | 14:06 |
| EmilienM | ? | 14:06 |
| panda | we are currently running a test upstream using thiss change https://review.openstack.org/421272 to see the end results from this replacement | 14:06 |
| panda | EmilienM: I proposed a discussion on the mailing list, just to see if there are any objections | 14:07 |
| sshnaidm | matbu, EmilienM maybe it's worth to mark upgrade reviews as action items? | 14:07 |
| matbu | sshnaidm: +1 | 14:07 |
| panda | arxcruz: can confirm as he's looking at the tempest part, the full list of tempest test passes, with a few exceptions | 14:07 |
| matbu | i think tripleo cores should be involved in the quickstart reviews | 14:07 |
| weshay | 3 failures last I checked in full tempest on master | 14:08 |
| matbu | the delay is really huge | 14:08 |
| arxcruz | EmilienM: confirmed | 14:08 |
| weshay | 2 are known issues | 14:08 |
| EmilienM | #action team to review oooq periodic job https://review.openstack.org/420647 https://review.openstack.org/420620 | 14:08 |
| arxcruz | which https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421018/ will add to skip file | 14:08 |
| panda | so, if no one has anything to object, seems like tempest is back on the menu | 14:08 |
| panda | arxcruz: do you want to add something for the tempestmail spec ? | 14:08 |
| EmilienM | matbu: have you documented how to review quickstart patches? | 14:09 |
| arxcruz | panda: I wrote the spec, but didn't finish the code yet on tripleo-ci/scripts | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | matbu: have you thought at a deep dive sessions? | 14:09 |
| weshay | +1 on deep dive | 14:09 |
| arxcruz | panda: EmilienM spec at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420878/ | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | and it's out of topic now, sorry | 14:09 |
| matbu | EmilienM: the commit message is explicit i guess | 14:09 |
| sshnaidm | panda, is it nonha intentionally? | 14:09 |
| arxcruz | sshnaidm: yes | 14:10 |
| EmilienM | folks, we're having 4 topics in same time | 14:10 |
| trown | ya, I am really lost | 14:10 |
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| weshay | ha | 14:10 |
| panda | :/ | 14:10 |
| arxcruz | there are some tests that fail in ha, because the sync between the controllers | 14:10 |
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| adarazs | o/ | 14:10 |
| panda | EmilienM: mark the active topic then, sorry I thought you gave the green light. | 14:11 |
| sshnaidm | I think we started from upgrade job | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | ok, so nothing else for moving periodic job to use oooq? | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | ok, seems like we can move to the next topic | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | weshay, matbu: it's you now | 14:12 |
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| panda | EmilienM: changes, jobs, and spec to send email to proper group in case of failure, nothing else on my part | 14:12 |
| weshay | EmilienM, I'm looking for input whether or not we think the upgrade oooq job should be running in a check gate | 14:12 |
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| EmilienM | weshay: is it a multinode or an ovb? | 14:13 |
| weshay | or experimental | 14:13 |
| EmilienM | panda: feel free to use #action to track the list of things todo | 14:13 |
| weshay | ovb | 14:13 |
| EmilienM | weshay: right now, we already have a multinode (non oooq) job in THT check -nv | 14:13 |
| matbu | EmilienM: weshay fyi the tripleo-ci experimental has been merged | 14:13 |
| matbu | and it's working properly now | 14:13 |
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| EmilienM | matbu: please be precise and give the jobname | 14:13 |
| EmilienM | the "the tripleo-ci experimental" is not enough to understand which one | 14:14 |
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| shardy | weshay: we just moved the brand new non-ooq upgrade job to the t-h-t check queue yesterday | 14:14 |
| matbu | EmilienM: gate-tripleo-ci-centos-7-multinode-upgrades-nv | 14:14 |
| shardy | weshay: can you clarify, this is the exact same steps done via quickstart, or something else? | 14:14 |
| EmilienM | matbu: gate-tripleo-ci-centos-7-multinode-upgrades-nv has moved to check pipeline for THT and experimental for tripleo-ci | 14:15 |
| matbu | shardy: yes, but with less services than we added recently | 14:15 |
| weshay | shardy, ok.. having coverage is the most important thing | 14:15 |
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| shardy | weshay: I'm kinda thinking we should leave that one alone for now, as it blocked landing upgrades patches for nearly two months | 14:15 |
| weshay | shardy, ok.. this is the input I was looking for | 14:15 |
| trown | +1 to just using the multinode upgrade we have | 14:15 |
| EmilienM | +1 too | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | and we can revisit in Pike | 14:16 |
| shardy | I'd be fine with us proving the oooq one via the experimental queue tho and proving we can switch them later | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | shardy: yes exactly | 14:16 |
| gfidente | +1 on oooq experimental | 14:16 |
| weshay | ok.. we can do that.. by replacing one of the current oooq jobs in experimental w/ upgrade | 14:16 |
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| weshay | seems like a good idea to me to ensure we're covered in the short term and further out | 14:17 |
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| shardy | weshay: sounds good - I'd be keen to see it running, but wary of any further blockages re the upgrades patches | 14:17 |
| trown | I think we should make the oooq upgrade job based on top of the recent oooq-multinode job | 14:17 |
| trown | the ovb queue is too crowded to add more jobs | 14:17 |
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| weshay | oh.. that would be awesome | 14:17 |
| EmilienM | trown: yes | 14:17 |
| weshay | matbu, you following this? | 14:17 |
| EmilienM | sounds like we have a plan | 14:17 |
| shardy | trown: +1 - the current upgrades job uses multinode, so that would be consistent | 14:17 |
| shardy | when we prove they're working exactly the same, we can switch them in the t-h-t check queue, but probably not before early pike | 14:17 |
| weshay | +1 | 14:18 |
| matbu | +1 | 14:18 |
| EmilienM | maybe we can create a blueprint for that | 14:18 |
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| EmilienM | so we track the work | 14:18 |
| EmilienM | weshay: can you take some #action please? | 14:18 |
| EmilienM | so it's somewhere in logs :-) | 14:18 |
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| weshay | #action weshay, matbu, sofer to create a tripleo blueprint for multinode nodepool oooq based upgrade job | 14:19 |
| EmilienM | excellent | 14:19 |
| EmilienM | weshay: anything else for this topic? | 14:19 |
| weshay | nada | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | thanks! | 14:20 |
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| EmilienM | bandini, ccamacho : o/ | 14:20 |
| bandini | yo ;) | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | yoooo | 14:20 |
| ccamacho | hey! | 14:20 |
| bandini | So with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359060/ we add an explicit nonha-arch environment file *and* default to the HA deployment. The corresponding CI patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415179/ makes sure the nonha jobs use -e nonha-arch.yaml. The CI patch is failing on the current unrelated mitaka nonha. I'd love to merge both patches at the same time. Are there any concerns? (Note that | 14:20 |
| bandini | I added release notes for THT here https://review.openstack.org/421226 and plan to send a mail on openstack-dev once this stuff merges) | 14:20 |
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| EmilienM | is it safe to do it now? (end of ocata) | 14:21 |
| dtantsur | bandini, does it mean that we won't have a job testing the "default" deployment (i.e. one without any -e)? | 14:21 |
| bandini | dtantsur: well for ocata -e environment/puppet-pacemaker and default will mean the same thing. so yes we are and it is the ha job | 14:21 |
| ccamacho | dtantsur, yes but it will be deployed using the resources that previously were in the puppet-pacemaker template | 14:22 |
| bandini | EmilienM: I think it is, but wanted to get the input of the larger group | 14:22 |
| bandini | it is basically one of the only differences between downstream and upstream and has confused endless folks | 14:22 |
| trown | ya... looks like the same coverage CI wise to me | 14:22 |
| dtantsur | bandini, the HA job deploys with ControllerCount=3, right? | 14:22 |
| trown | just changes which job needs to be explicit about changing default | 14:22 |
| gfidente | bandini if we keep the puppet-pacemaker.yaml release, as planned, I think it's safe to do | 14:23 |
| bandini | dtantsur: I believe so | 14:23 |
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| gfidente | anything pointing to the old file should continue to work as intended | 14:23 |
| ccamacho | yeahp gfidente until pike the template will be there | 14:23 |
| marios | bandini: fwiw reviewed that today, imo can land... besides CI most people will be using puppet-pacemaker already anyway | 14:23 |
| bandini | gfidente: yeah I plan to kill that file for pike, not anytime sooner | 14:23 |
| gfidente | we just need to maintain registry/nonha/puppet-pacemaker in good shape for a release right? | 14:23 |
| trown | bandini: I think we can't kill the file until queens | 14:24 |
| EmilienM | why do we need nonha job then? | 14:24 |
| EmilienM | for introspection? | 14:24 |
| trown | deprecate in O remove in Q | 14:24 |
| EmilienM | why not moving introspection to ha job then? | 14:24 |
| ccamacho | trown++ | 14:24 |
| EmilienM | trown: sounds good to me too | 14:24 |
| bandini | EmilienM: so my take on nonha is that we can kill that too eventually, but it seemed too much of a big change | 14:24 |
| bandini | trown: +1 | 14:24 |
| gfidente | two releases better than one | 14:24 |
| ccamacho | EmilienM I think we should do this step by step | 14:24 |
| EmilienM | bnemec: thoughts ^ ? | 14:24 |
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| EmilienM | I don't see any blocker | 14:25 |
| EmilienM | any actions to take folks? | 14:25 |
| gfidente | on dropping entirely nonha I am not convinced | 14:25 |
| bandini | I'd just let the reviews merge after appropriate +2, if folks agree | 14:25 |
| gfidente | I think it's good to keep it in working state | 14:25 |
| bandini | gfidente: yeah that requires a longer discussion | 14:25 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, ceph and undercloud-ssl are checked in nonha only | 14:25 |
| EmilienM | right | 14:26 |
| gfidente | so for ceph I am adding HCI to the HA job | 14:26 |
| EmilienM | ceph is highly tested in scenario001 and scenario004 | 14:26 |
| gfidente | https://review.openstack.org/338088 | 14:26 |
| shardy | gfidente: Yeah I agree, if nothing else it's useful for minimal testing by developers | 14:26 |
| gfidente | so we don't need extra nodes | 14:26 |
| shardy | however I guess the question is can we justify bandwidth if that's the only reason | 14:26 |
| shardy | e.g CI bandwidth | 14:26 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, and "no network isolation" there | 14:26 |
| gfidente | ceph HCI that depends on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419049/ though | 14:26 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: right | 14:27 |
| gfidente | sshnaidm right if we land that we will test it with network isolation | 14:27 |
| EmilienM | bandini, ccamacho: any #action to take before we go to next topic? | 14:27 |
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| gfidente | shardy ack on bandwidth | 14:27 |
| ccamacho | EmilienM we are good | 14:27 |
| bandini | EmilienM: I think we're good. We'll let the reviews do the rest and merge once we're okay | 14:27 |
| EmilienM | we can revisit the topic of keeping nonha for later | 14:27 |
| bandini | yeah | 14:27 |
| ccamacho | thanks! | 14:27 |
| bandini | thanks everyone | 14:28 |
| EmilienM | #action team to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359060/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415179/ | 14:28 |
| gfidente | can I add one more question for CI topic? | 14:28 |
| EmilienM | gfidente: of course, go ahead now | 14:28 |
| gfidente | if with jprovazn we wanted to have a scenario to test the manila/cephmds | 14:28 |
| gfidente | shall we prefer hacking on an existing scenario or add a new one? | 14:28 |
| gfidente | (cephmds is a new service we don't deploy by default, needed for cephfs, needed in turn by manila) | 14:28 |
| EmilienM | gfidente: that's a good question | 14:29 |
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| EmilienM | so scenario001 is really about testing rbd with nova/cinder/glance/telemetry | 14:29 |
| gfidente | cool, so we could add it there? | 14:29 |
| EmilienM | and scenario004 is about ceph rgw with glance | 14:29 |
| EmilienM | could it be in scenario004? | 14:29 |
| gfidente | yes fine for me | 14:29 |
| gfidente | thanks | 14:29 |
| EmilienM | #action gfidente to investigate cephmds + manila on scenario004 | 14:30 |
| EmilienM | gfidente: thanks for adding more CI coverage, very nice :) | 14:30 |
| * dtantsur reminds himself that he should get to an ironic scenario eventually | 14:30 | |
| gfidente | you mean better than driving bling in the night | 14:30 |
| gfidente | yes I learned that | 14:30 |
| EmilienM | :) | 14:31 |
| EmilienM | ok next topic | 14:31 |
| EmilienM | PTG | 14:31 |
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| EmilienM | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-ptg-pike | 14:31 |
| EmilienM | we already have a few sessions, which is great! | 14:31 |
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| EmilienM | I've set a deadline for submitting sessions, so we have enough time to organize ourselves | 14:31 |
| EmilienM | deadline: February 6th | 14:31 |
| EmilienM | any feedback on ^ is welcome | 14:32 |
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| EmilienM | I haven't seen much sessions about CI | 14:32 |
| EmilienM | weshay, trown, adarazs : are you interested to add some? | 14:32 |
| adarazs | EmilienM: I won't be there, so as you wish. :) | 14:33 |
| adarazs | EmilienM: it might be useful though for people present. | 14:33 |
| weshay | I believe trown will have to lead some sessions, I am moving to colorado at that time | 14:33 |
| trown | EmilienM: ya maybe we can discuss more in CI squad meeting on thursday and put something up based on that | 14:33 |
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| EmilienM | sounds like a plan | 14:33 |
| EmilienM | #action trown & EmilienM to prepare CI sessions for PTG | 14:33 |
| trown | #action trown bring up PTG CI sessions in thursday CI squad meeting | 14:33 |
| trown | jinz | 14:34 |
| trown | jinx even | 14:34 |
| EmilienM | other folks, please propose topics by the deadline | 14:34 |
| EmilienM | reminder: we have a room for 3 days, so don't be shy :) | 14:34 |
| EmilienM | #undo | 14:34 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #action trown bring up PTG CI sessions in thursday CI squad meeting | 14:34 |
| EmilienM | #undo | 14:34 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #action trown & EmilienM to prepare CI sessions for PTG | 14:34 |
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| EmilienM | #action trown bring up PTG CI sessions in thursday CI squad meeting | 14:34 |
| EmilienM | voilà | 14:34 |
| EmilienM | :) | 14:34 |
| EmilienM | any question about PTG or feedback? | 14:35 |
| EmilienM | ok let's move | 14:35 |
| EmilienM | #topic bugs | 14:35 |
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| EmilienM | #link https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/ocata-3 | 14:35 |
| EmilienM | I sent an email about remaining bugs for tripleoclient before we release it next week | 14:35 |
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| EmilienM | #link https://goo.gl/R2hO4Z | 14:35 |
| EmilienM | we still have 6 bugs open | 14:36 |
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| EmilienM | tripleoclient reviewers, please look at them and make sure they need to be in ocata-3 or defer it to pike-1 | 14:36 |
| EmilienM | other than tripleoclient, do we have outstanding bugs to discuss this week? | 14:36 |
| EmilienM | 74 Triaged, 67 In Progress for ocata-3 | 14:37 |
| EmilienM | it's huge :) | 14:37 |
| beagles | just a heads up on https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1656939... | 14:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1656939 in tripleo "Empty THT strings now being interpreted as actual values by puppet" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Brent Eagles (beagles) | 14:37 |
| EmilienM | I think I already asked last time, but any help on triage would be welcome | 14:37 |
| marios | EmilienM: i just added one more (the tag was wiped earlier when i added puppet-nova) https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1656791 | 14:38 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1656791 in tripleo "Mitaka to Newton undercloud upgrade needs "nova db online_data_migrations" after the undercloud upgrade" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Marios Andreou (marios-b) | 14:38 |
| shardy | I suggest we defer all low/medium unassigned bugs to pike-1, and move all high unassigned bugs to rc1 | 14:38 |
| marios | EmilienM: its the one you already reviewed the code for (its an upgrade related one) | 14:38 |
| EmilienM | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420947/ | 14:38 |
| shardy | then we can focus on fixing the most serious issues prior to the release | 14:38 |
| EmilienM | beagles: ack, thanks for this one | 14:38 |
| beagles | this came to my attention yesterday. I expect that neutron might've been the only one affected but if in case you've done the "bad thing" mentioned in the bug in the past you might want to check on | 14:38 |
| EmilienM | shardy: sounds like a plan | 14:38 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to move ocata-3 low/medium unassigned bugs to pike-1 | 14:39 |
| beagles | +1 shardy | 14:39 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to move ocata-3 high/critical unassigned bugs to ocata-rc1 | 14:39 |
| EmilienM | marios: sounds good, it's in our radar for this week | 14:40 |
| EmilienM | marios: i'll help you to get this puppet-nova patch merged asap | 14:40 |
| EmilienM | mwhahaha: FYI https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421249/ | 14:40 |
| marios | EmilienM: thanks will reach out to someone from nova to sanity check too | 14:40 |
| marios | EmilienM: appreciate the reviews | 14:41 |
| EmilienM | marios: please | 14:41 |
| EmilienM | do we have other bugs to discuss this week? | 14:41 |
| EmilienM | #topic Projects releases or stable backports | 14:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Projects releases or stable backports (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:42 | |
| EmilienM | reminder: tripleoclient will be release next week, on Thursday | 14:42 |
| EmilienM | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 14:42 |
| EmilienM | we'll also release ocata-3 | 14:43 |
| EmilienM | Jan 27 is the target but it will likely happen on Jan 26 I think | 14:43 |
| EmilienM | No featureful patch should be landed after this point. Exceptions may be granted by the project PTL, on openstack-dev ML | 14:44 |
| EmilienM | I'm working on release notes with d0ugal | 14:44 |
| EmilienM | any help on adding release notes for Ocata is very welcome | 14:45 |
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| EmilienM | ping me or d0ugal to sync | 14:45 |
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| EmilienM | any question or feedback on releases? | 14:46 |
| EmilienM | #topic CI | 14:46 |
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| EmilienM | #link http://tripleo.org/cistatus.html | 14:46 |
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| EmilienM | #link http://status-tripleoci.rhcloud.com/ | 14:46 |
| EmilienM | #link https://dashboards.rdoproject.org/rdo-dev | 14:47 |
| EmilienM | panda, sshnaidm: any idea why we haven't promoted last night? | 14:47 |
| EmilienM | (if there is anything to discuss about CI, please raise it here) | 14:48 |
| EmilienM | bnemec managed to make Mitaka jobs passing again, see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420156/ - bnemec: can you remove -W when you can? | 14:48 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, " Ironic deployment timeout" in nonha job | 14:48 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: have we filed a bug? | 14:48 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, I don't think so | 14:48 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: let's do it after meeting and see why we have that now. | 14:49 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, I'll handle it, suspecting it's timeout issue we had in past | 14:49 |
| trown | just want to bring up that we have a CI squad meeting on Thursdays to discuss ongoing improvements to CI... adarazs is the liason and did a great write up of last weeks meeting http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/110034.html | 14:49 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: we can maybe ask dtantsur to look if it's ironic related | 14:49 |
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| trown | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/110034.html | 14:49 |
| adarazs | trown: thanks. :) I think that status is still correct. | 14:49 |
| EmilienM | adarazs: yes, I also found it excellent | 14:50 |
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| adarazs | all right, looking forward to the next. :) | 14:50 |
| EmilienM | marios: do you keep doing weekly standups? I'm not sure I've seen notes posted on ML | 14:50 |
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| EmilienM | chem: ^ | 14:50 |
| marios | EmilienM: no we have been having more ad-hoc calls really | 14:51 |
| marios | EmilienM: we always announce on the tripleo chan | 14:51 |
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| marios | EmilienM: i guess we should organise a weekly if that would be useful/if there is someone who is interested and is unable to follow the work | 14:51 |
| EmilienM | like I said, it's good to let squads do how they like, though having public notes on the ML would be helpful | 14:51 |
| chem | EmilienM: marios hum, yes that's kind of a good idea | 14:52 |
| EmilienM | weekly or not, I think having public notes make to do things "in the open" | 14:52 |
| shardy | Just having an etherpad with the current status of upgrades would probably help - I think matbu started one | 14:52 |
| marios | EmilienM: fwiw we have notes https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-upgrades-squad | 14:52 |
| matbu | shardy: yep | 14:52 |
| EmilienM | excellent | 14:52 |
| marios | EmilienM: last time we had a call was last friday for example | 14:52 |
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| matbu | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/composable-upgrade | 14:53 |
| EmilienM | I guess this etherpad is enough :-) thanks folks | 14:53 |
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| EmilienM | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/composable-upgrade | 14:53 |
| jpich | It might have been more appropriate for the bugs section rather than CI, but I noticed unit tests don't pass on stable/mitaka anymore so patches can't merge (the branch is still security supported). I put some debugging notes up at https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1656871 but am a bit stuck. I'd appreciate pointers on how to help resolve it, if anyone has any | 14:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1656871 in tripleo "Mitaka unit tests broken (CLI/OSC test dependencies)" [High,Triaged] | 14:53 |
| matbu | it needs more love :D | 14:53 |
| EmilienM | #action team to help jpich to debug https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1656871 and unblock stable/mitaka unit tests | 14:54 |
| EmilienM | jpich: thank you | 14:54 |
| EmilienM | do we have anything else about this CI week? | 14:54 |
| jpich | Thanks! | 14:54 |
| EmilienM | #topic specs | 14:55 |
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| EmilienM | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open | 14:55 |
| shardy | jpich: have you seen https://review.openstack.org/#/c/413792/ ? | 14:55 |
| shardy | that's a patch from bnemec which aims to fix several mitaka related issues | 14:55 |
| shardy | not yet landed | 14:55 |
| EmilienM | yeah it's a backport | 14:56 |
| EmilienM | we probably need to Depends-On https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420156/ | 14:56 |
| EmilienM | to check that it doesn't break OVB jobs | 14:56 |
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| EmilienM | jpich: can you check with bnemec when he's around? | 14:57 |
| jpich | shardy: I suspect this is related to larger issues with the long-running jobs, that bug seems to be related to unit tests and dependencies at the pip level | 14:57 |
| jpich | EmilienM: Will do | 14:57 |
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| EmilienM | a quick note on specs, more a reminder | 14:58 |
| EmilienM | if you submit a spec, please target it for Pike and not Ocata :-) | 14:58 |
| EmilienM | I know it makes sense but I've seen specs for Ocata coming up yesterday ;-) | 14:58 |
| dtantsur|mtg | lol, that's the spirit! | 14:58 |
| EmilienM | :) | 14:59 |
| EmilienM | i'll open the discussion | 14:59 |
| EmilienM | #topic open discussion | 14:59 |
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| EmilienM | if you have any question or feedback, you have 45 seconds | 14:59 |
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| EmilienM | or you can use #tripleo at any time | 14:59 |
| panda | EmilienM: there as spec for adding tempest mail to tripleo-ci, bt arxcruz | 14:59 |
| EmilienM | panda: I've seen it | 14:59 |
| panda | EmilienM: not sure it should be targeted to OPike also | 14:59 |
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| EmilienM | panda: yes, Pike. | 14:59 |
| EmilienM | spec freeze was December 16th iirc | 15:00 |
| panda | EmilienM: ok, thanks | 15:00 |
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| EmilienM | thanks everyone! | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 17 15:00:24 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2017/tripleo.2017-01-17-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2017/tripleo.2017-01-17-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2017/tripleo.2017-01-17-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| tmorin | #startmeeting bgpvpn | 15:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 17 15:03:12 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmorin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'bgpvpn' | 15:03 |
| pcarver | hi | 15:03 |
| tmorin | hi doude, pcarver, lewo, eon` | 15:03 |
| tmorin | hi matrohon_ | 15:03 |
| tmorin | hi timirnich | 15:03 |
| tmorin | hi lhinds | 15:03 |
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| tmorin | hi rodrigods | 15:03 |
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| matrohon_ | hi | 15:04 |
| timirnich | hi tmorin | 15:04 |
| tmorin | let's start... | 15:04 |
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| tmorin | what I would see on the agenda for today is essentially: | 15:04 |
| tmorin | - updates on API work in neutron-lib | 15:04 |
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| tmorin | - update on OSC work in python-neutronclient | 15:05 |
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| tmorin | - update on bagpipe driver WIP | 15:05 |
| tmorin | - discussing what we plan to include in ocata | 15:05 |
| tmorin | - discussing the atlanta ptg | 15:06 |
| tmorin | anything I'm missing ? | 15:06 |
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| pcarver | looks like a good list | 15:06 |
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| pcarver | I think the API ref is pretty much done. I'm working on API def now. | 15:06 |
| pcarver | It's failing tox tests and I am just getting started at figuring out what's actually being tested | 15:07 |
| tmorin | yes, I agree that the API doc should be ready now, after so much time on many details :) | 15:07 |
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| tmorin | pcarver: feel free to ask for help! | 15:08 |
| pcarver | I haven't gotten very far, but I can give you an example of what I'm seeing | 15:08 |
| pcarver | testtools.matchers._impl.MismatchError: 'route_distinguishers' not in ('admin_state_up', 'id', 'description', 'name', 'network_id', 'port_id', 'project_id', 'shared', 'status', 'tenant_id'): Attribute is unknown, check for typos. | 15:08 |
| tmorin | a neutron-lib has been made on monday, so we will require waiting for the next one to use the API definition from neutron-lib in networking_bgpvpn | 15:08 |
| tmorin | as soon as the change for the API definition lands, we'll ask for a release and adapt net-bgpvpn code | 15:09 |
| pcarver | It doesn't look like a typo to me, so apparently I need to add route_distinguisher somewhere that I haven't | 15:09 |
| tmorin | can you dump a more complete output on paste.openstack.org ? | 15:09 |
| pcarver | sure | 15:09 |
| tmorin | pcarver: on the other hand, this list looks short, so it doesn't seem like it should list each and every resource attribute in neutron | 15:10 |
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| pcarver | yup, I think I need to look into base.py to figure out what the test is actually trying to test | 15:10 |
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| tmorin | is this on the most recent PS ? | 15:11 |
| pcarver | I don't really have a clear understanding of what's being tested | 15:11 |
| pcarver | no, I haven't pushed a new PS because it failed tox locally | 15:11 |
| pcarver | I can push the failing PS if you want, but I was going to try to get it to pass tox first. | 15:11 |
| tmorin | if you want help, it will be easier if you push this somewhere | 15:11 |
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| pcarver | ok | 15:12 |
| pcarver | I'm re-running tox now. When it completes I'll push a new PS despite the failure. | 15:12 |
| tmorin | on gerrit, or on a github somewhere if you don't want to kill your gerrit karma by pushing a test-failing patch set :) | 15:12 |
| tmorin | pcarver: that's good enough :) | 15:12 |
| tmorin | next topic ? | 15:12 |
| tmorin | #topic OSC work | 15:12 |
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| tmorin | doude, I think this one is making good progress | 15:13 |
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| tmorin | there have been reviews | 15:13 |
| tmorin | one set of comments still needs to be addressed | 15:13 |
| tmorin | and stevemar has asked a review to dean troyer | 15:14 |
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| tmorin | maybe doude isn't around | 15:14 |
| tmorin | ok | 15:15 |
| tmorin | next topic ? | 15:15 |
| tmorin | #topic bagpipe driver update | 15:15 |
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| tmorin | this is a small update | 15:15 |
| tmorin | we don't have anything significant in the pipe | 15:15 |
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| tmorin | some cleanups will come once other fixes are in (eg. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/380329/ will causes an ugly work aroudn in bgpvpn bagpipe agent extension) | 15:16 |
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| tmorin | and there is a bug on OVS restart that I initially hoped we could fix in Ocata, but which might have to be postponed to Pike (https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1646526) | 15:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1646526 in neutron "bgpvpn functionality lost on openvswitch restart" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Thomas Morin (tmmorin-orange) | 15:17 |
| tmorin | there has been some discussion on this one with ihrachys, but no code in the pipe yet | 15:18 |
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| tmorin | ihrachys (hi) ... if you're around: would there be a chance to have a fix in Ocata, if for instance I propose code for the "ovs restarted event" approach ? | 15:19 |
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| tmorin | ok... | 15:21 |
| tmorin | next topic...? | 15:21 |
| tmorin | #topic bpgvpn ocata release | 15:21 |
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| tmorin | given the short time left, I think that we can try to cover stadium things (OSC in python-neutronclient and API definition from neutron-lib), and some of the bagpipe improvements/fixes mentioned above | 15:22 |
| tmorin | any opinion on things we should add to this target ? (or remove from ?) | 15:23 |
| tmorin | pcarver: ? | 15:23 |
| tmorin | matrohon_: ? | 15:23 |
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| pcarver | I'm definitely hoping to get both the api-ref and api-def merged ASAP, but probably nothing else for me. | 15:23 |
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| tmorin | ok, seems like everyone has reasonable expectations for Ocata :) | 15:24 |
| tmorin | #topic altanta ptg | 15:25 |
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| matrohon_ | i don't see anything to add, having osc and API-ref in ocata would be a success | 15:25 |
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| tmorin | #undo | 15:26 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic altanta ptg | 15:26 |
| tmorin | yep, +1 | 15:26 |
| tmorin | #topic atlanta PTG | 15:27 |
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| tmorin | the details on how neutron will meet have started to appear (email from armax last Thursday) | 15:27 |
| tmorin | there is an etherpad on which people can add things | 15:27 |
| tmorin | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-ptg-pike | 15:28 |
| tmorin | I will be there from Monday night to Friday | 15:28 |
| tmorin | pcarver: you were planning to go right ? | 15:28 |
| pcarver | tmorin: I'm planning to put in a travel request. My VP is on vacation so I haven't put it in yet, but will this week. | 15:29 |
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| pcarver | I don't think I'm going to go for the whole week. | 15:29 |
| tmorin | I've just added a BGPVPN item to the agenda | 15:29 |
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| tmorin | pcarver: ok | 15:29 |
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| pcarver | I was thinking probably Wed-Fri | 15:29 |
| tmorin | ok | 15:30 |
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| tmorin | anything else for today ? ( timirnich ? matrohon_? pcarver ? ) | 15:31 |
| matrohon_ | no, thanks tmorin | 15:31 |
| pcarver | I don't know if it needs to be in the meeting minutes, but here's my current tox output | 15:32 |
| pcarver | http://paste.openstack.org/show/595228/ | 15:32 |
| timirnich | nope I'm fine | 15:32 |
| tmorin | thanks pcarver | 15:32 |
| pcarver | that's for the failing tox on API def | 15:32 |
| tmorin | willl have a look later | 15:32 |
| tmorin | ok, thanks everyone | 15:32 |
| tmorin | bye! | 15:32 |
| tmorin | #endmeeting | 15:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 17 15:32:46 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2017/bgpvpn.2017-01-17-15.03.html | 15:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2017/bgpvpn.2017-01-17-15.03.txt | 15:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2017/bgpvpn.2017-01-17-15.03.log.html | 15:32 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 17 16:00:22 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:00 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2017-01-17_1600_UTC Our Agenda | 16:00 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:00 | |
| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 16:00 |
| jvgrant__ | Jaycen Grant | 16:00 |
| strigazi | o/ | 16:00 |
| mvelten | Mathieu Velten | 16:00 |
| tonanhngo | Ton Ngo | 16:00 |
| jasond | Jason Dunsmore | 16:00 |
| adrian_otto | hello jvgrant__ strigazi mvelten tonanhngo and jasond | 16:01 |
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| Drago | o/ | 16:01 |
| hongbin | o/ | 16:01 |
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| juggler | o/ | 16:01 |
| adrian_otto | hello Drago hongbin and juggler | 16:01 |
| NikoHermannsEric | tmorin: is the bgpvpn meeting today? | 16:01 |
| juggler | hello adrian_otto | 16:01 |
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| strigazi | NikoHermannsEric it kust ended | 16:02 |
| strigazi | NikoHermannsEric it just ended | 16:02 |
| NikoHermannsEric | oh, then I had the wrong time | 16:02 |
| tmorin | hi NikoHermannsEric, yes indeed, it was 15:00 UTC | 16:02 |
| NikoHermannsEric | oh ok | 16:02 |
| adrian_otto | NikoHermannsEric: we re holding the Magnum meeting now, if that interests you at all | 16:03 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 16:03 |
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| adrian_otto | 1) Monday 2017-01-23 is the start of the feature freeze | 16:03 |
| adrian_otto | for our Ocata release cycle | 16:04 |
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| adrian_otto | so this week we'll want to get all the new things merged prior to the freeze | 16:04 |
| randallburt | o/ | 16:04 |
| adrian_otto | remember that bug fixes are welcome any time | 16:04 |
| juggler | hey randallburt | 16:04 |
| adrian_otto | even during the freeze. | 16:04 |
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| adrian_otto | any questions on the release? | 16:05 |
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| adrian_otto | any other announcements from team members? | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 16:06 |
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| adrian_otto | (none) | 16:06 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas | 16:06 |
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| adrian_otto | Essential Blueprints | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/flatten-attributes Flatten Attributes [strigazi] | 16:06 |
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| strigazi | I don't have an update, I'll push tomorrow my patch for it | 16:07 |
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| adrian_otto | strigazi: thanks. I look forward to that. | 16:07 |
| mvelten | regarding the release | 16:07 |
| adrian_otto | mvelten: yes? | 16:07 |
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| juggler | strigazi excellent! | 16:07 |
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| mvelten | we really need f25 in I think | 16:08 |
| mvelten | otherwise we are stuck with really old k8s for the next 6 months :( | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | mvelten: agreed | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | do you foresee any barriers to wrapping this up this week? | 16:09 |
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| mvelten | so now, we have a problem :) can you summarize strigazi ? | 16:09 |
| strigazi | adrian_otto there maybe after action items? | 16:09 |
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| strigazi | adrian_otto, maybe after action items? | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | ok, I will revisit this after Essential Blueprints | 16:10 |
| mvelten | ok | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | next is: | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/nodegroups Nodegroups [Drago] | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | note the correct spelling from the agenda! | 16:10 |
| jvgrant__ | nice :) | 16:10 |
| juggler | heh :) | 16:10 |
| jvgrant__ | there was some additional discussion and feedback on the spec this week | 16:10 |
| Drago | Not much of an update from me. I've only made some comments on the spec. Hopefully jvgrant__ and I will be meeting this week to discuss breaking it up into smaller pieces that are more focused. | 16:11 |
| jvgrant__ | Drago and I are discussing breaking the spec down into smaller specs since it is so big and difficult to make progress on | 16:11 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, any reason to depart from previous plans for merging the spec in Ocata and implementing thereafter? | 16:11 |
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| jvgrant__ | think that is a good plan still | 16:11 |
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| Drago | Any comment on a huge spec causes an iteration | 16:12 |
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| Drago | (well not any, but one worth iterating for) | 16:12 |
| strigazi | breaking it in pieces means many focues specs? | 16:12 |
| hongbin | the huge spec definiely cause difficulty to review | 16:12 |
| adrian_otto | yes, I've struggled with it | 16:13 |
| tonanhngo | True, breaking it up will help with the review | 16:13 |
| Drago | Smaller specs that are single-subject would make it easier to review and vote on individually | 16:13 |
| randallburt | +1 for smaller specs but would be nice if we tracked the big picture too somewhere | 16:13 |
| strigazi | s/focues/focused | 16:13 |
| Drago | randallburt: We plan to have a spec act as the high-level overview | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | the current review can be the overview, and we can break out details into smaller parts. | 16:13 |
| randallburt | Drago: sounds good | 16:13 |
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| strigazi | +1 | 16:14 |
| hongbin | for the big picture, i have a suggestion | 16:14 |
| strigazi | We will merge the smaller parts first? | 16:14 |
| juggler | adrian_otto / Drago / randallburt +1 | 16:14 |
| hongbin | consider using a devref as a reference for the big picture (like what kuryr team does: https://github.com/openstack/kuryr/tree/master/doc/source/devref) | 16:14 |
| hongbin | the spec doesn't have to specify the big picture then | 16:15 |
| strigazi | What is the difference to many smaller specs? | 16:15 |
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| Drago | hongbin: What is the difference between devref's goals_and_use_cases.rst and a separate spec that contains that information? | 16:16 |
| adrian_otto | I'm missing the distinction between a spec and a devref. What is it? | 16:16 |
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| adrian_otto | if it's in the source tree, we need to vote to merge it | 16:16 |
| hongbin | devref is a reference for developer to explore the project technical details | 16:16 |
| hongbin | the spec is for specifying a feature design | 16:17 |
| adrian_otto | they would be part of the same review, right? | 16:17 |
| adrian_otto | just different documents | 16:17 |
| hongbin | could be in different review | 16:17 |
| Drago | strigazi: I'm not sure what you mean by "smaller parts first". The current plan is to remove parts of the NodeGroup spec and place them into new specs, so NodeGroups will get smaller too. | 16:17 |
| adrian_otto | the rst format is good | 16:18 |
| jvgrant__ | strigazi, Drago: do you mean the implementation of those specs or just getting the specs reviewed? | 16:18 |
| Drago | adrian_otto: Aren't specs already in rst? | 16:18 |
| randallburt | adrian_otto: specs are already rst tho | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | and it would be a nice way to thin out the spec | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | my comment appreciates the consistency of rst format with the spec format | 16:19 |
| Drago | Okay | 16:19 |
| Drago | Chocolate is good too? | 16:19 |
| Drago | :P | 16:19 |
| adrian_otto | can always count on Drago for a smile :-) | 16:19 |
| randallburt | so basically we want to have multiple documents under the same "spec" sounds like | 16:19 |
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| Drago | If the idea is basically "put these specs in a subdirectory for easy browsing", that sounds fine to me | 16:20 |
| juggler | Drago heh | 16:20 |
| adrian_otto | randallburt: that should help reduce the context that a reviewer considers, and should accelerate progress | 16:20 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, any more discussion on this one? | 16:21 |
| Drago | jvgrant__: I'd say getting the specs reviewed. Implementation patches can implement multiple things if they want | 16:21 |
| adrian_otto | yatin is not here today | 16:22 |
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| adrian_otto | but I think we can celebrate completion of: | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/secure-etcd-cluster-coe Secure Central Data store(etcd) [yatin] | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | All related patches have merged, from what I can see | 16:23 |
| Drago | Huzzah! | 16:23 |
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| juggler | yea! | 16:23 |
| adrian_otto | this was an important milestone to help Mangum be appropriate for more production use cases | 16:23 |
| mvelten | \o/ | 16:23 |
| juggler | yatin++ | 16:23 |
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| adrian_otto | thanks yatin form your work on this enhancement | 16:24 |
| adrian_otto | s/form/for/ | 16:24 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/cluster-upgrades Cluster Upgrades [strigazi] | 16:24 |
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| strigazi | There were two comments in the spec and I didn't have time to push an update for this. I don't think it can make it for Ocata | 16:26 |
| strigazi | Since the ff is on Monday | 16:27 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so we should expect to merge the spec in Pike? | 16:27 |
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| strigazi | We can merge the spec in ocata if there is agreement | 16:27 |
| tonanhngo | Have you given thought about how to proceed if the upgrade fails? For existing cluster, this can be important | 16:28 |
| adrian_otto | are the comments a big deal? | 16:28 |
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| Drago | Does it matter what cycle a spec lands in? | 16:28 |
| strigazi | Drago, no | 16:28 |
| adrian_otto | no | 16:28 |
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| Drago | And do specs have to abide by the feature freeze? | 16:28 |
| adrian_otto | what matters is when the implementation id completed | 16:28 |
| adrian_otto | s/id/is/ | 16:28 |
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| randallburt | Drago: not technically, but I wouldn't imagine incomplete specs get a lot of eyes during ff | 16:29 |
| hongbin | then, sound like we don't have to push a spec | 16:29 |
| strigazi | I can put effort to add an upgrade path for k8s | 16:29 |
| randallburt | Drago: given the review priority on stuff thats in-flight | 16:30 |
| Drago | randallburt: Makes sense, thanks | 16:30 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, any more discussion on Cluster Upgrades? | 16:31 |
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| Drago | It's looking good, strigazi! | 16:32 |
| adrian_otto | next subtopic: | 16:32 |
| adrian_otto | Other Work Items | 16:32 |
| strigazi | about f25 | 16:32 |
| adrian_otto | mvelten: you requested input from strigazi about f25 | 16:32 |
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| strigazi | There a soecific but related to the latest cloud-init. | 16:32 |
| strigazi | Due to a cycle in the systemd units, | 16:33 |
| strigazi | systemd may decide or may not to kill cloud-init, wihtout it all our fragment scripts don't run | 16:34 |
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| Drago | What units are in the cycle, and is it a difficult thing to fix? | 16:34 |
| strigazi | In our deployment and on my devstack, (a 4 core desktop) I wasn't able to regenerate the failure | 16:34 |
| strigazi | Drago, it's in cloud-init, all our script are called by it | 16:35 |
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| strigazi | The fix is one line :) | 16:35 |
| mvelten | it is indeed weird that nobody complains yet. It is in f25 since released | 16:35 |
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| mvelten | I would guess that the slowness make the units order change or smthg like that | 16:36 |
| strigazi | I filed the bug but I don't know when the fix will get merged | 16:36 |
| Drago | A one line fix to the upstream ostree, I assume? | 16:36 |
| Drago | strigazi: Link? | 16:36 |
| adrian_otto | so our fragment scripts need to depend on cloud-init explicitly so systemd starts it first? | 16:37 |
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| strigazi | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1623868 this is on ubuntu, in fedora it's not published yet | 16:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1623868 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "cloud-final.service does not run due to dependency cycle" [High,Fix released] | 16:37 |
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| adrian_otto | I though the scripts wer eunrelated to systemd, | 16:37 |
| randallburt | adrian_otto: that's not a thing. Our fragments are cloud-intit scripts | 16:37 |
| adrian_otto | that cloud-init picked them up and ran them. I guess that's not how it works? | 16:37 |
| randallburt | adrian_otto: no, the bug is that systemd can kill cloud-init | 16:37 |
| Drago | cloud-init itself is a systemd unit | 16:38 |
| strigazi | The point mathieu wants to make is that it might take one or two weeks | 16:38 |
| adrian_otto | why? because it fails some heath check and needs to be restarted? | 16:38 |
| strigazi | to be fixed | 16:38 |
| adrian_otto | I"m just trying to understand the problem | 16:38 |
| mvelten | strigazi did you open a bug on fedora tracker ? | 16:38 |
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| * adrian_otto reading bug 1623868 | 16:38 | |
| openstack | bug 1623868 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "cloud-final.service does not run due to dependency cycle" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1623868 | 16:38 |
| strigazi | yes but I got an error on the website, trying again after the meeting | 16:39 |
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| strigazi | If the cloud init package is fixed we get a fresh image the next day | 16:40 |
| strigazi | Atomic is built daily | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | so putting "After=multi-user.target" in the clou-init systemd unit file is the fix? | 16:40 |
| strigazi | yes | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | ok, simple enough. | 16:40 |
| mvelten | yep but it stays 7 days in testing usually at the rpm repo level | 16:41 |
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| adrian_otto | so let's connect this back to magnum | 16:42 |
| adrian_otto | the fix is in fc25 now | 16:42 |
| adrian_otto | and if we make fc25 image builds as part of Ocata, then we enjoy that fix too | 16:42 |
| Drago | strigazi: Is there any chance that your f25 patch can be made to work with the current image and the image with f25? | 16:42 |
| strigazi | No | 16:43 |
| mvelten | current doesnt have the pb right ? | 16:43 |
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| mvelten | f24 | 16:43 |
| strigazi | no | 16:43 |
| strigazi | for magnum, | 16:43 |
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| strigazi | can we take it in at any point before the release? | 16:43 |
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| adrian_otto | sure | 16:44 |
| mvelten | yes can we ack that we want it and merge after the FF window deadline ? | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | this is a bug fix | 16:44 |
| mvelten | ok perfect | 16:44 |
| strigazi | ok, thanks | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | but I don't want to conflate the fix with new versions of COEs | 16:45 |
| Drago | adrian_otto: Hate to be devil's advocate, but how is this a bug fix to magnum? | 16:45 |
| mvelten | if we merge it it would be :P | 16:45 |
| adrian_otto | if magnum is malfunctioning due to a bug in a system we depend on, and we need to merge something to include the fix to that lower level bug, that's a magnum bugfix too. | 16:46 |
| Drago | So what you're saying is that we'll purposefully merge in something that breaks magnum, then wait for the new image? | 16:46 |
| adrian_otto | strigazi: do you recognize my concern about defect repair and COE upgrades being coupled? | 16:47 |
| Drago | Because as I understand it the "fix" is not even in the magnum codebase | 16:47 |
| mvelten | for k8s v1.5.1 is in the testing fedora repo. Just got a -1 in bodhi so I guess it still needs 2 weeks before available | 16:47 |
| Drago | By the way, this patch would be a great feature freeze exception candidate | 16:48 |
| adrian_otto | yes, it would | 16:48 |
| mvelten | is there a guideline for exception ? | 16:48 |
| strigazi | adrian_otto they are coupled in the sense that you may upgrade in something that it's not working right? | 16:48 |
| adrian_otto | mvelten: I have the ability to approve FFE requests on a case by case basis. | 16:49 |
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| mvelten | ok so no outside people have to validate good | 16:49 |
| adrian_otto | the important thing is that we don't break other parts of OpenStack by making our changes. | 16:49 |
| adrian_otto | that's the purpose of the freeze, so our various services can be tested together. | 16:49 |
| adrian_otto | I'm not aware of other OpenStack services depending on Magnum, so that problem is unlikely | 16:50 |
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| mvelten | exactly what I was going to say ;) | 16:50 |
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| adrian_otto | I'll advance us to open discussion. We can continue this convo as well | 16:50 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open Disucssion | 16:50 |
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| Drago | adrian_otto: So FFE instead of merging in broken stuff? | 16:51 |
| Drago | Agreed? | 16:51 |
| randallburt | Drago: that would sound more reasonable to me | 16:51 |
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| adrian_otto | yes | 16:51 |
| adrian_otto | ideally we'd solve this before an FFE is needed | 16:52 |
| Drago | Well sure | 16:52 |
| vijendar_ | https://review.openstack.org/391301 - Magnum stats API | 16:52 |
| vijendar_ | https://review.openstack.org/420946 - Magnum stats API documentation | 16:52 |
| vijendar_ | https://review.openstack.org/419099 - Resource Quota - Add config option to limit clusters | 16:52 |
| vijendar_ | https://review.openstack.org/419100 - Resource Quota - DB layer changes | 16:52 |
| strigazi | I have one last thing. I'm wrapping up a patch of the driver field, I'll update 409253 later today | 16:52 |
| vijendar_ | https://review.openstack.org/419704 - Resource Quota - Adding quota API | 16:52 |
| vijendar_ | https://review.openstack.org/419705 - Resource Quota - Limit clusters per project | 16:52 |
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| vijendar_ | I have few in review patches. Please review and let me know your comments. | 16:52 |
| adrian_otto | thanks vijendar_ | 16:52 |
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| hongbin | vijendar_: what are the priorities of these patches? | 16:53 |
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| randallburt | vijendar_: am setting aside time to look at those this afternoon | 16:53 |
| vijendar_ | randallburt: thanks | 16:53 |
| adrian_otto | I'll review them all today | 16:53 |
| vijendar_ | hongbin: please take a look at stats patches first | 16:53 |
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| vijendar_ | adrian_otto: thanks | 16:54 |
| mvelten | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/405374/ | 16:54 |
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| juggler | looking ahead: https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/15x | 16:55 |
| mvelten | This one is useful for a bunch of tools built on top of k8s. Unfortunately it depends on the controller being up and running, so we are hitting the CI again | 16:55 |
| juggler | hope to see some of you there | 16:55 |
| adrian_otto | mvelten: looks like that one is missing footnote links in the commit message | 16:55 |
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| adrian_otto | juggler: yes, I'm speaking a SCaLE | 16:56 |
| mvelten | in the bug ;) | 16:56 |
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| juggler | adrian_otto I know ;) | 16:56 |
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| adrian_otto | we might be the only two SoCal residents here | 16:57 |
| hongbin | i have one topic to bring up. the kuryr team is looking for feedback for this proposal: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/integrate-kuryr-kubernetes | 16:57 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://github.com/openstack/kuryr-kubernetes | 16:58 |
| adrian_otto | hongbin: do you know what the status of the above code is? | 16:58 |
| mvelten | does it support a trust user ? | 16:58 |
| hongbin | adrian_otto: it seems it is ready to be integrated with | 16:59 |
| hongbin | mvelten: this is a good question for the kuryr team | 16:59 |
| adrian_otto | time to wrap up for today | 16:59 |
| adrian_otto | thanks hongbin for raising that one. | 16:59 |
| mvelten | for after ocata I would say, we already have troubles getting an updated k8s version in :) but on the principle would be great | 16:59 |
| adrian_otto | Thanks for attending today. Our next team meeting is 2017-01-24 at 1600 UTC. See you then! | 17:00 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 17 17:00:12 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| juggler | thx all | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2017/containers.2017-01-17-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2017/containers.2017-01-17-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2017/containers.2017-01-17-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #startmeeting murano | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 17 17:01:43 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kzaitsev_mb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:01 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #topic rollcall | 17:01 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | let's see who's around =) | 17:02 |
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| learnmore_ | o/ | 17:02 |
| learnmore_ | Hmm....where is everyone today? | 17:03 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I'm starting to think about making these bi-weekly, since the attendance is low and we don't have anything specific on the agenda | 17:04 |
| learnmore_ | That's ok with me. I can save my questions for an extra week. | 17:06 |
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| learnmore_ | I don't have much for today. I just want to get a better feel for is in place for the new UI and what remains to be done. I know the UI/dashboard part is missing and the forms work is complete. | 17:08 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #topic Open Discussion | 17:09 |
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| learnmore_ | Any idea if there is more server work to be done? | 17:09 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | learnmore_: you're right. We have api ready for the forms and specs drafted for most of the other work | 17:10 |
| kzaitsev_mb | let me try and dig up some links for you | 17:10 |
| learnmore_ | That would be great. | 17:11 |
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| learnmore_ | Currently, my application's UI.yaml has fields/properties for both the app and the instance needed to run the app on. With the new forms design, the properties for the app would move to the app's Class. I don't have a class for the instance. But with this new design, it sounds like I need a instance class to put my instance properties in. Correct? | 17:13 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393116/ | 17:14 |
| kzaitsev_mb | here's link with docs about what's done | 17:15 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344518/ | 17:16 |
| learnmore_ | Great. I will take a look. | 17:16 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382838/ | 17:16 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382837/ | 17:16 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | here are all the UI specs we have at the moment | 17:16 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | as for the question — instance classes are part of the standard library, so the thing is going to live in standard library and you would only need to have/use a custom instance class if you would want to extend it somehow | 17:18 |
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| learnmore_ | So if my application prompts the user for the keyname for the instance (which is an instance field), do I put this field in my app's Class? | 17:22 |
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| learnmore_ | along with metadat so that the new ui will ask the user for this name? | 17:23 |
| kzaitsev_mb | that depends on what you need and on whether the standard library's version would not satisfy your needs | 17:24 |
| kzaitsev_mb | one of the ideas behind this new UI was to eliminate the need to write UI.yaml files | 17:25 |
| kzaitsev_mb | and devise the forms from parameters already present in the class descriptions | 17:25 |
| kzaitsev_mb | but retaining backward compatibility with old behaviour (and potentially allowing to choose between multiple form implementations for the same class) | 17:26 |
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| learnmore_ | Yes. So the idea is that the info that was in UI.yaml, should now go in the appropriate Class file is my understanding. The new UI will be built on the info from the Class file and not the UI.yaml. | 17:26 |
| learnmore_ | Correct? | 17:26 |
| learnmore_ | We were typing at the same time:) | 17:27 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | yeah =) looks like we've written more or less the same things ) | 17:28 |
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| learnmore_ | This new UI will be more dynamic. So if I ask the user how many volumes they want and they say 3. How does this new design allow me to create 3 volumes for them? | 17:29 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | learnmore_: I don't really get the question. you can easily do that now | 17:33 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | you can have templates in your UI.yaml and a repeat function for example. | 17:35 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/murano/appdev-guide/muranopackages/dynamic_ui.html?highlight=templates#templates | 17:35 |
| learnmore_ | Ok. Let me ask about something that we can't do today. For the boot device, will there be a way for the user to choose whether they want to boot from an image and therefore provide the source image or choose to boot from a volume snapshot and provide the snapshot id? | 17:36 |
| learnmore_ | Today we can do one of the other but the type of boot device (image or snapshot) is hardcoded by the app. | 17:36 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | that doesn't depend on the new UI. that depends on the Instance class implementation | 17:36 |
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| learnmore_ | So the answer is I should provide a custom Instance class, yes? | 17:37 |
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| learnmore_ | But even with a new custom Class, I would see need to use the new forms implementation so that I don't have to have the type (image or snapshot) hardcoded in the UI.yaml, yes? | 17:39 |
| kzaitsev_mb | learnmore_: looking at the current implementation — it seems that it's possible today | 17:39 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | learnmore_: no you don't. especially with a custom class — you can specify any object model you want. | 17:40 |
| kzaitsev_mb | as for hardcoding, take a look at the link I provided | 17:40 |
| learnmore_ | Hmmm....I've tried to make the volume type dynamic and it didn't work. | 17:40 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/murano/appdev-guide/muranopackages/dynamic_ui.html?highlight=templates#parameters-and-parameterssource | 17:41 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | one of the ideas behind static methods — were to provide grounds for such dynamic fetching of the UI parameters for the forms | 17:44 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | it might not be fully complete at the moment | 17:44 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | i.e. we might not have some of the clients/classes available in the core library to fetch the resources you might want | 17:45 |
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| learnmore_ | So I would use parameter to indicate the type of boot device, be it image or snapshot id. In the UI.yaml, I would have type: $parm1 and parm1 would be the output of a static method in my Class, yes? | 17:51 |
| learnmore_ | I'll have to play with this to get a better understanding. Thanks for pointing it out. | 17:51 |
| kzaitsev_mb | learnmore_: have you looked into the instance class? =) | 17:53 |
| learnmore_ | Not lately. Guess I should. I have just recently switched to Ocata. | 17:54 |
| kzaitsev_mb | https://github.com/openstack/murano/blob/master/meta/io.murano/Classes/resources/Instance.yaml#L74 | 17:54 |
| kzaitsev_mb | is this what you need? | 17:54 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | https://github.com/openstack/murano/commit/5dae8d89281fcbfc43ec41068463de1c67495f6e | 17:55 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | looks like it's been there for a year or so =) | 17:55 |
| learnmore_ | That is what I am using, block devices. However, I need to be able to specify the volume type such as: blockDevices: - volume: ?: type: io.murano.resources.CinderVolume size: $.instanceConfiguration.instanceSize sourceImage: $.instanceConfiguration.sourceLinuxImage | 17:56 |
| learnmore_ | Sorry that did not format well. | 17:56 |
| learnmore_ | - volume: | 17:56 |
| learnmore_ | ?: | 17:56 |
| kzaitsev_mb | learnmore_: we're almost out of time, can I ask you to move this discussion to mailing-list? | 17:56 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I don't think we'll get anywhere here ) | 17:57 |
| learnmore_ | Sure. | 17:57 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | and with ML we would be able to ping all the authors of the code ) | 17:57 |
| kzaitsev_mb | and document your needs and how Core Library today does not meet them ) | 17:57 |
| learnmore_ | :) | 17:57 |
| learnmore_ | I'll give you more examples to better explain what I am trying to do. | 17:58 |
| learnmore_ | See in there. | 17:58 |
| kzaitsev_mb | sure =) | 17:58 |
| kzaitsev_mb | thanks for coming around ) | 17:58 |
| kzaitsev_mb | don't think anyone would join us on the last minute | 17:59 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | so, going to finish and looking forward to your letter =) | 17:59 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #endmeeting | 17:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 17 17:59:45 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2017/murano.2017-01-17-17.01.html | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2017/murano.2017-01-17-17.01.txt | 17:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2017/murano.2017-01-17-17.01.log.html | 17:59 |
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| catherineD|2 | #startmeeting refstack | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 17 19:00:39 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherineD|2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:00 |
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| pvaneck | o/ | 19:01 |
| catherineD|2 | #link meeting agenda and notes, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-17-01-17 | 19:01 |
| catherineD|2 | pvaneck: hi, we will wait for a few minute for other to join ... | 19:02 |
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| sslypushenko_ | o/ | 19:04 |
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| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko_: thx for joining ...we really need your expertise for a couple of topic today let's start .. it should be very quick | 19:06 |
| catherineD|2 | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-17-01-17 | 19:06 |
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| sslypushenko_ | catherineD|2: yeap, I see couple bugs in agenda ) | 19:06 |
| catherineD|2 | #topic My email address cannot be changed on RefStack | 19:06 |
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| catherineD|2 | #link Bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/refstack/+bug/1632773 | 19:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1632773 in refstack "My email address cannot be changed on RefStack" [Medium,Confirmed] | 19:07 |
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| catherineD|2 | the question is should we allow user to edit the email address at RefStack ? | 19:07 |
| sslypushenko_ | I guess - yes | 19:07 |
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| sslypushenko_ | RefStack should sync changes with OID provider | 19:08 |
| catherineD|2 | my thinking is no ... reason is user profile are copy from OpenID ... | 19:08 |
| sslypushenko_ | even more... we should not keep this data at all) | 19:08 |
| catherineD|2 | exactly we should sync with OID provider but not allow edit at our side | 19:09 |
| sslypushenko_ | =) we can't edit user's email on OID side) | 19:09 |
| catherineD|2 | because we do not own these data .. | 19:09 |
| sslypushenko_ | it is impossible | 19:09 |
| sslypushenko_ | ) | 19:09 |
| catherineD|2 | so it is the OID issue then .. right? | 19:10 |
| sslypushenko_ | we just need to move email from user DB record to session data | 19:10 |
| sslypushenko_ | OID returns actual email every login | 19:10 |
| sslypushenko_ | currently RefStack stores it at first login | 19:10 |
| sslypushenko_ | and it is a bug | 19:11 |
| sslypushenko_ | RefStack should not store email in to database | 19:11 |
| pvaneck | doesn't it save it in db after every sign in with this: https://github.com/openstack/refstack/blob/master/refstack/api/controllers/auth.py#L164 ? | 19:11 |
| sslypushenko_ | hm, give me a sec | 19:12 |
| sslypushenko_ | https://github.com/openstack/refstack/blob/master/refstack/db/sqlalchemy/models.py#L133 | 19:12 |
| sslypushenko_ | so we just need to change all places refers to user's email in DB record | 19:13 |
| sslypushenko_ | to use user_info instead | 19:13 |
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| sslypushenko_ | https://github.com/openstack/refstack/blob/master/refstack/api/controllers/user.py#L84 | 19:14 |
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| sslypushenko_ | this lines needs to be changed | 19:14 |
| sslypushenko_ | and I guess that is it =) | 19:14 |
| catherineD|2 | ic ... so by using user_info everywhere the "user info" will present the newest data fetched from the OID? | 19:15 |
| sslypushenko_ | yeap | 19:15 |
| catherineD|2 | great ... so basically we all agree that we should not allow editting of user info at RefStack .. | 19:15 |
| catherineD|2 | this infor will be used as-is as it is fetched from the OID provider .. | 19:16 |
| sslypushenko_ | +1 | 19:16 |
| catherineD|2 | pvaneck: ? | 19:16 |
| pvaneck | can try | 19:17 |
| catherineD|2 | great thx | 19:17 |
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| catherineD|2 | #agreed Not allowing editing of user infor at RefStack. User data will be used and save as-is as they are fetched from the OID provider | 19:18 |
| catherineD|2 | #topic Pending reviews | 19:19 |
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| catherineD|2 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410271/ ( Add tool for coverage check ) | 19:19 |
| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko_: I think this patch is ready to merge ... with a comment there ... could you take a look | 19:20 |
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| sslypushenko_ | ok, I'll you do it | 19:21 |
| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko_: thx you ... | 19:21 |
| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko_: BTW, thank yo uso much for working on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396700/ this has made testing of API much easier with script | 19:23 |
| pvaneck | +1 | 19:23 |
| sslypushenko_ | =) it is my pleasure catherineD|2 | 19:23 |
| catherineD|2 | moving on .. | 19:24 |
| catherineD|2 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410443/ ( Added tox target which checks requirements.txt ) | 19:24 |
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| catherineD|2 | I do not think this kind of checking works for RefStack ... | 19:24 |
| catherineD|2 | because some of the package are required to build the server | 19:25 |
| catherineD|2 | unless we split out the app vs env requirement | 19:25 |
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| catherineD|2 | catherineD|2: pvaneck: what do you think? | 19:26 |
| sslypushenko_ | looks like we need requirements.txt and requirements-dev.txt | 19:26 |
| sslypushenko_ | It is definitely make sence | 19:27 |
| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko_: yea if we want to enforce the requirement checking | 19:27 |
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| sslypushenko_ | checks are good) Checks bring confidence during deployment) | 19:28 |
| pvaneck | but in the case of pymysql, the check seemingly says to remove it, but we need it even if it isnt explicitly imported anywhere | 19:28 |
| catherineD|2 | pvaneck: what if we put that in requirement-dev.txt ? | 19:29 |
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| catherineD|2 | put all those package that are not explicitly imported to the new file .. | 19:30 |
| pvaneck | then puppet-refstack would need to be updated to install the packages in there since production just installs packages in requirements.txt | 19:30 |
| catherineD|2 | pvaneck: ic | 19:30 |
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| sslypushenko_ | pvaneck: You right | 19:30 |
| sslypushenko_ | At least it need to install pymysql | 19:30 |
| catherineD|2 | yea .. | 19:31 |
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| catherineD|2 | how about let's give us a week to think this through ... we will revisit next week? | 19:32 |
| catherineD|2 | moving on .. | 19:32 |
| sslypushenko_ | I guess we already had an agreement on it | 19:32 |
| catherineD|2 | to split the requirement files? | 19:33 |
| sslypushenko_ | I just checked some other projects... there is no pymysql in requirements.txt | 19:33 |
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| sslypushenko_ | so yes we need to separate dev requirements in dev-requirements.txt | 19:34 |
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| sslypushenko_ | it should work | 19:34 |
| sslypushenko_ | and as pvaneck said we need to update deployment scripts | 19:34 |
| sslypushenko_ | lets stick to this approach | 19:35 |
| pvaneck | maybe can have puppet just explicitly install pymysql independently since it's the only outlier | 19:35 |
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| sslypushenko_ | yeap | 19:36 |
| sslypushenko_ | it should work | 19:36 |
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| pvaneck | alternatively, we can use --ignore-module in the pip check command | 19:36 |
| catherineD|2 | pvaneck: sslypushenko_: I feel like we need pymysql to show up so where in refstack project because not everyone who build refstack env will look at the puppet | 19:37 |
| pvaneck | catherineD|2: that would just be another step in the docs | 19:37 |
| sslypushenko_ | +1 | 19:37 |
| catherineD|2 | ok ... | 19:37 |
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| sslypushenko_ | puppet + docs update cover all usecases | 19:38 |
| catherineD|2 | I constantly build dev env from scratch ... let me do some test and we will decide which approaches to take next week? | 19:38 |
| garloff | Sounds reasonable | 19:39 |
| pvaneck | sure | 19:39 |
| catherineD|2 | garloff: Hello there .. | 19:39 |
| garloff | catherineDI2: Thx for the welcome! | 19:40 |
| catherineD|2 | #agreed Revisit approaches to enforece the requirment,txt checking next week | 19:40 |
| catherineD|2 | moving on ... | 19:40 |
| catherineD|2 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419178/ ( Add ability to auto-associate tests ) | 19:40 |
| catherineD|2 | please review ... | 19:41 |
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| sslypushenko_ | ok, I'll review | 19:41 |
| catherineD|2 | thx | 19:41 |
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| catherineD|2 | next .. | 19:42 |
| catherineD|2 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390881/ ( Change doc references from DefCore to Interop Working Group ) | 19:42 |
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| pvaneck | the name change is official now right? | 19:43 |
| catherineD|2 | this is just a name change ... DefCore is renamed to Interop WG ... and the Guideline will be name as "OpenStack Powered (TM) Guidelines" | 19:43 |
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| catherineD|2 | I think lucZ: just need to make the update | 19:45 |
| catherineD|2 | That brings us to the last topic | 19:45 |
| catherineD|2 | #topic Open discussion | 19:45 |
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| catherineD|2 | #link Bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/refstack/+bug/1643048 | 19:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1643048 in refstack "setup_env removes and reclones tempest" [Wishlist,New] | 19:46 |
| sslypushenko_ | I guess we can have optional key for this feature | 19:46 |
| catherineD|2 | personally I feel like it is cleaner to remove and reclone | 19:47 |
| sslypushenko_ | same thoughts | 19:47 |
| sslypushenko_ | but we can have optional key for not-to-force recloning | 19:48 |
| sslypushenko_ | I guess Wishlist is correct priority for it | 19:49 |
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| catherineD|2 | I think will work on the item 4 on line 53 of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-ocata-summit | 19:49 |
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| catherineD|2 | there seems to be overlapsed .. | 19:50 |
| sslypushenko_ | agreed | 19:51 |
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| catherineD|2 | so once we implement that feature ... user can point to whatever env they like .. | 19:52 |
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| catherineD|2 | so I think this bug will remain as wishlist | 19:52 |
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| sslypushenko_ | +1 | 19:54 |
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| catherineD|2 | #action Revisit Bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/refstack/+bug/1643048 after "Add ability to pass in own tempest directory path" is implemented | 19:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1643048 in refstack "setup_env removes and reclones tempest" [Wishlist,New] | 19:54 |
| catherineD|2 | that is all the topics we have for this week ... | 19:55 |
| catherineD|2 | any other thought? | 19:55 |
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| catherineD|2 | if not ... thank you so much for attending ... talk to you next week .. | 19:56 |
| sslypushenko_ | nothing to add | 19:56 |
| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko_: thx | 19:57 |
| catherineD|2 | bye everyone | 19:57 |
| catherineD|2 | #endmeeting | 19:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:57 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 17 19:57:27 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2017/refstack.2017-01-17-19.00.html | 19:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2017/refstack.2017-01-17-19.00.txt | 19:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2017/refstack.2017-01-17-19.00.log.html | 19:57 |
| sslypushenko_ | bye | 19:57 |
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