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| zhaochao | #startmeeting trove | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 13 14:00:13 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhaochao. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 14:00 |
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| zhaochao | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
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| gang | hi | 14:01 |
| zhaochao | gang: hi | 14:01 |
| zhaochao | let's wait some more time for others to show up | 14:02 |
| gang | OK | 14:02 |
| fanzhang | hi | 14:03 |
| zhaochao | fanzhang: hi | 14:03 |
| fanzhang | what am I missing? | 14:04 |
| zhaochao | no, still not starting yet | 14:04 |
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| zhaochao | OK, let' start | 14:05 |
| zhaochao | #topic Rocky goal updates | 14:05 |
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| zhaochao | I was still not participating much last weeks, however we finnally have got some long standing patches merged, thanks, gang fanzhang and jian.song | 14:07 |
| fanzhang | In the past week, the gate was finally fixed. And I post two patches to clear the requirements | 14:07 |
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| zhaochao | yes, thanks, fanzhang, I also got all these nofication emails | 14:08 |
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| zhaochao | and last week, rocky milestone-2 was scheduled, we all agreed to skip it | 14:09 |
| fanzhang | Then that’s it. Still did not spend much time on bp. Hopefully after the holidays,I would start to continue the bp development. | 14:10 |
| zhaochao | I also went to openstack-release channel for ensuring our skipping is appropriate | 14:10 |
| fanzhang | Cool | 14:10 |
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| wangyao | hi everyone, sorry for late | 14:11 |
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| zhaochao | smcginnis and dhellmann explained to me that even if no changes were made during milestones, project should always try to follow the release mode, and this could annouce the project(for us, Trove) is still following the schdule and check Trove release scripts are still working | 14:13 |
| gang | network problem... | 14:13 |
| zhaochao | wangyao: hi | 14:13 |
| dhellmann | zhaochao : one important reason for that is the milestone tag is an opportunity to verify that the release automation still works for your project; sometimes things change outside of the project that may break releases. Right now, for example, we're working with several teams to fix their README files and setup.cfg metadata because PyPI has added more strict validation. | 14:14 |
| fanzhang | So we better to make a tag then. 😀 | 14:15 |
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| zhaochao | thanks for them, So all of us were not clearly understanding the release mode of OpenStack projects by that time, we'll try to follow up in the following milestones | 14:16 |
| zhaochao | dhellmann: got that, thanks a lot | 14:16 |
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| zhaochao | fanzhang: yes, we should do that in the following milestones. However rocky-2 was skipped, sorry for that, we were broken by xtrabackup(for MySQL instances restoring) and DIB(for guest images building), and now the problems are fixed | 14:19 |
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| wangyao | excellent | 14:21 |
| zhaochao | wangyao: yes, however it looks like the checking and gate jobs are still not stable, we may have to do more investigations on that | 14:23 |
| gang | I recheck the "Add cluster-modeles to OSC" patch, it passed. This part of job could continue. | 14:25 |
| wangyao | zhanggang helps to recheck my patch, it passed | 14:25 |
| wangyao | yes | 14:25 |
| zhaochao | I've done some quick searching, most of the failures seems not related to the patches itselves, so maybe the testing methods used by Trove put too much pressure on the gate, and some operations became slow and many failures due to timeout issues | 14:25 |
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| zhaochao | gang: thanks for that, please also help to review on that patch, I'll try to do another review on the patch recently. wangyao hopefully we could merge it soon, thanks | 14:29 |
| gang | zhaochao: got it | 14:30 |
| wangyao | thanks | 14:30 |
| gang | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554156/ failed again. | 14:31 |
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| fanzhang | Try recheck... | 14:32 |
| zhaochao | and one more thing from TC(the Technical Committee), recently the TC dicided to setup liaisons to follow every OpenStack project, Thierry Carrez and Graham are assigned to Trove | 14:32 |
| gang | Maybe should do the rebase operation first. | 14:32 |
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| fanzhang | What do you mean “follow every project “? | 14:33 |
| zhaochao | They reached me by email, we did some basic talk about the project status, I brought up the lacking of participation and the current situation of our team | 14:34 |
| ttx | we try to keep up with what's happening with projects, but spread he load across all TC members | 14:35 |
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| ttx | since everyone following everything would be pretty daunting | 14:35 |
| ttx | It's mostly a healthcheck | 14:35 |
| zhaochao | fanzhang: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_health_tracker#Trove | 14:36 |
| zhaochao | ttx: :) thanks for detailed explanation | 14:37 |
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| fanzhang | Oh I see. Thanks a lot ttx :) | 14:39 |
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| zhaochao | with the help from TC, we may get more supports, thanks | 14:41 |
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| fanzhang | How often should we do the updates? And who should report the status? | 14:41 |
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| zhaochao | And we have an OpenStack China Day next week in Beijing China, I'm preparing an talk about Trove, hoping that will do some help for the project | 14:43 |
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| zhaochao | fanzhang: ? the wiki page? I think the page is used by the TC for tracking projects | 14:44 |
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| fanzhang | Ok, I see. Currently,we may try to stick to the cycle goals and hopefully we could do something. | 14:44 |
| fanzhang | Maybe you should join the next summit zhaochao | 14:44 |
| songjian1994 | Sorry, late, the computer has a problem | 14:44 |
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| zhaochao | songjian1994: hi, :) thanks for working on the xtrabackup problems, we finnally got that patch merged | 14:45 |
| songjian1994 | yes,we can merge patch without worry about gate now | 14:46 |
| zhaochao | fanzhang: I'm still not planning for that, will consider about it | 14:46 |
| wangyao | Hope that more people will join in trove | 14:47 |
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| Liuqing | ：-） | 14:47 |
| fanzhang | As awcloud is so supportive for community,you may have the chance. | 14:47 |
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| songjian1994 | The first time the travel support is not over, I think we can apply | 14:48 |
| songjian1994 | I remember it closing at the end of June | 14:49 |
| zhaochao | songjian1994: yes. but (we just did some disscussing, still no conclusion) the check and gate jobs are still not stable, although most failures may not be related to the patches | 14:49 |
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| fanzhang | For the next summit? | 14:49 |
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| songjian1994 | zhaochao: ok,will still keep a look | 14:50 |
| songjian1994 | fanzhang;yes | 14:50 |
| wangyao | Liuqing welcome | 14:50 |
| zhaochao | Liuqing: hi | 14:50 |
| Liuqing | hello | 14:50 |
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| zhaochao | #action (all) The checking and gate jobs are still not stable, still need some more investifations | 14:52 |
| fanzhang | Liuqing: may I ask what company do you work for, and are you a trove user or contributor? | 14:52 |
| zhaochao | Liuqing: :) would you like to do a brief self-introduce, :) | 14:52 |
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| Liuqing | product manager from 99cloud | 14:53 |
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| wangyao | Liuqing is a contributor I think | 14:53 |
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| zhaochao | OK, we have litter time today, there's no more topics about project updates from me today, what about you? | 14:54 |
| songjian1994 | Yes, I have an impression on him | 14:54 |
| fanzhang | Sorry, I am new to trove :) | 14:54 |
| wangyao | ~.~ | 14:54 |
| zhaochao | I'll try to update the other patches from me which have been in the review list for a long time | 14:55 |
| fanzhang | So a colleague of Jeffery Zhang welcome | 14:55 |
| Liuqing | thanks | 14:55 |
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| gang | zhaohcao: Just find some info abot openstack china day, and I find you :) | 14:56 |
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| zhaochao | gang: yes, I'm going to do a talk about Trove, :) | 14:57 |
| fanzhang | Will you show up gang | 14:57 |
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| fanzhang | I am planning to go on Friday | 14:58 |
| fanzhang | :) | 14:58 |
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| gang | didn't notice that before, or I will be there....as a audience. | 14:58 |
| zhaochao | OK, time is up | 14:59 |
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| fanzhang | Ok,have a good night | 14:59 |
| zhaochao | it's time to end the meeting, thanks, everyone | 14:59 |
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| gang | good night~ | 15:00 |
| songjian1994 | bye | 15:00 |
| zhaochao | Good night | 15:00 |
| zhaochao | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:00 | |
| wangyao | bye | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 13 15:00:35 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2018/trove.2018-06-13-14.00.html | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2018/trove.2018-06-13-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2018/trove.2018-06-13-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| e0ne | #startmeeting horizon | 15:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 13 15:04:03 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is e0ne. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 15:04 |
| e0ne | hi everybody | 15:04 |
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| Liuqing | \o | 15:04 |
| e0ne | let's wait few minutes more until more people join us | 15:04 |
| ifat_afek | Hi :-) | 15:04 |
| Liuqing | ok | 15:04 |
| Alon | Hello :) | 15:04 |
| e0ne | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Horizon | 15:05 |
| amotoki | hi | 15:05 |
| e0ne | courteous ping for rdopiera | 15:06 |
| betherly_ | o/ | 15:06 |
| betherly_ | sorry im late folks! overrunning other meeting | 15:06 |
| rdopiera | o/ | 15:07 |
| e0ne | betherly_: don't worry. we just started | 15:07 |
| betherly_ | ( rdopiera in same meeting so im sure he will be joining now) | 15:07 |
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| e0ne | #topic notices | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "notices (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:07 | |
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| e0ne | we reached rocky-2 milestone | 15:08 |
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| e0ne | there a bit more than 1 month until rocky-3 | 15:08 |
| e0ne | #link https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/schedule.html | 15:08 |
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| amotoki | Rocky-3 is schedule at the week of Jul 23 | 15:08 |
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| amotoki | *scheduled* | 15:09 |
| e0ne | amotoki: thanks:) | 15:09 |
| e0ne | if somebody wants to get some feature landed in Rocky, it should be merged until rocky-3 cut | 15:09 |
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| e0ne | of course, there is a feature exception procedure | 15:09 |
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| e0ne | that's all updates from my side | 15:10 |
| amotoki | if your change affects horizon plugins, you need to land it one or two week before Rocky-3. | 15:10 |
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| e0ne | amotoki: good point. we need to add this to release schedule | 15:10 |
| e0ne | #Action items from the previous meeting | 15:11 |
| amotoki | topic? | 15:11 |
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| e0ne | #topic Action items from the previous meeting | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from the previous meeting (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:11 | |
| e0ne | I had a busy week, so my mail about horizonlib was sent just before the meeting :( | 15:12 |
| e0ne | I hope to collect some feedback until PTG | 15:12 |
| e0ne | #topic Community Goals | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Community Goals (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:12 | |
| -amotoki- would like to raise a topic on horizonlib vs horizon-lib :) | 15:12 | |
| e0ne | horizon-sdk :) | 15:13 |
| rdopiera | and horizon_lib | 15:13 |
| amotoki | hehe | 15:13 |
| rdopiera | why not just leave it as horizon? | 15:13 |
| amotoki | we can rename the main repo to openstack-dashboard :) and :( | 15:13 |
| rdopiera | or get away from the tribal codenames alltogether and calld it openstack_dashboard_lib | 15:13 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: personally, I don't care a lot how will it be called | 15:13 |
| amotoki | perhaps we need to discuss what is "horizon" | 15:14 |
| Alon | What is "Horizon" ? :) | 15:14 |
| amotoki | we are joking aside | 15:14 |
| rdopiera | I think that originally it was supposed to be the horizon-lib | 15:14 |
| rdopiera | but then grew a little bit heavy | 15:14 |
| e0ne | amotoki, rdopiera: do you really want to spend the rest of meeting arguing about the name of something what is not really started yet? :) | 15:15 |
| amotoki | of course, no | 15:15 |
| e0ne | just kidding | 15:15 |
| rdopiera | e0ne: what is the alternative? ;-) | 15:15 |
| amotoki | :p | 15:15 |
| rdopiera | in any case, let's leave that for the e-mails | 15:16 |
| e0ne | I remember, we spent about 4 moth when we were choosing name for python-brick-cinderclient-ext | 15:16 |
| e0ne | so, it would be good topic to discuss it with some drinks on PTG:) | 15:16 |
| amotoki | ironic-cinder integration? | 15:16 |
| e0ne | amotoki: it was one of the names | 15:17 |
| e0ne | nevermind, it's not a cinder meeting | 15:17 |
| e0ne | let's continue according our schedule | 15:17 |
| e0ne | many thanks to amotoki for the hard work on mox=>mock migration! | 15:18 |
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| e0ne | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-unittest-mock-migration | 15:18 |
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| amotoki | the progress is good enough. 3 or 4 patches are under review | 15:18 |
| e0ne | I'll review them later tonigh | 15:19 |
| amotoki | the only one test is remaining. it is in openstack_auth, but it is a giant. | 15:19 |
| Alon | e0ne: "Just saying" - I want to talk about Plugins/Angular/React, hope you'll have time for it in your schedule | 15:19 |
| e0ne | and will take a look on openstack_auth/tests/unit/test_auth.py earlu next week | 15:19 |
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| amotoki | Alon: hopefully we can discuss your topic in "open dsicussion" in the agenda | 15:20 |
| e0ne | Alon, ifat_afek: sure, we've got few topics left on the schedule | 15:20 |
| e0ne | I'm going mark 'Enable mutable configuration' goal as not related to horizon | 15:20 |
| e0ne | #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/rocky/enable-mutable-configuration.html | 15:20 |
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| e0ne | I think, we're OK to get it handled by mod_wsgi/uwsgi | 15:21 |
| amotoki | e0ne: I am okay to mark it unrelated for horizon from oslo.config perspective | 15:21 |
| e0ne | we can argue on it in my patch when it'll be reade | 15:21 |
| amotoki | I am not sure mutable config is common in usual we applications. | 15:22 |
| e0ne | amotoki: +1 | 15:22 |
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| amotoki | e0ne: which patch is in your mind by "my patch"? | 15:22 |
| amotoki | a patch in the governance repo? | 15:23 |
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| e0ne | amotoki: I suppose we should propose some patch to gevernance as it was before | 15:24 |
| amotoki | e0ne: ack | 15:24 |
| e0ne | I'll check it | 15:24 |
| amotoki | the progress is tracked by a story in the storyboard. | 15:24 |
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| amotoki | e0ne: I will let you know the url later | 15:25 |
| e0ne | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001545 | 15:25 |
| e0ne | amotoki: do you have something more on this topic? | 15:26 |
| amotoki | nothing from me | 15:26 |
| e0ne | ok, I'm skipping 'horizon release model' topic, let's get more feedback first | 15:26 |
| e0ne | #topic Improve Horizon Testing | 15:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Improve Horizon Testing (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:27 | |
| e0ne | we removed nose test runner from django last week! | 15:27 |
| e0ne | also intial selenium job is fixed and works in non-voting mode now | 15:27 |
| e0ne | integration tests fixes are in progress | 15:28 |
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| e0ne | some people from at&t volunteered to help us with it | 15:28 |
| amotoki | how can we track the progress in integration test fixes? | 15:28 |
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| amotoki | do we need to check detail CI results? | 15:29 |
| e0ne | amotoki: I'll mark such tests with specific gerrit topic and add it to the agenda | 15:29 |
| e0ne | amotoki: we don't have CI for it now:( | 15:29 |
| e0ne | I'll propose patch this week | 15:29 |
| amotoki | thanks. sounds fair | 15:30 |
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| e0ne | and last, but not least, we tried to not break any plugin during this effort | 15:30 |
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| e0ne | I hope, everything went good | 15:31 |
| amotoki | FYI: some horizon plugins specify the test runner explicitly http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=django_nose.NoseTestSuiteRunner&i=nope&files=&repos= | 15:31 |
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| e0ne | amotoki: thanks | 15:31 |
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| e0ne | #link http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=django_nose.NoseTestSuiteRunner&i=nope&files=&repos= | 15:31 |
| amotoki | perhaps sahara and murano dashboards can eaisly migrated. | 15:31 |
| e0ne | they requires more work due to integration tests included in their repo | 15:32 |
| amotoki | watcher-dashboard py35 with django20 job is now broken. I am contacting the watcher team now. | 15:32 |
| e0ne | amotoki: we need to remove nose-exclude plugin from them | 15:32 |
| e0ne | #topic Django 2 support | 15:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Django 2 support (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:32 | |
| amotoki | more nose stuffs can be removed | 15:32 |
| e0ne | amotoki: :) | 15:32 |
| amotoki | I can share some updates on django 2.0 | 15:33 |
| rdopiera | eww | 15:33 |
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| amotoki | g-r and u-c in python3 were updated last week to consume django 2.0 | 15:34 |
| amotoki | so far 22 or 23 of 29 horizon plugins support django 2.0 | 15:34 |
| e0ne | cool | 15:34 |
| amotoki | the progress is tracked at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/django20-support | 15:34 |
| amotoki | we have three official repos which are broken by django 2.0 | 15:35 |
| amotoki | UI of murano, monasca and watcher | 15:35 |
| amotoki | mruano-dashboard team has found a way today | 15:35 |
| amotoki | I am contacting the watcher team. | 15:35 |
| amotoki | I haven't contacted the monasca team | 15:36 |
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| amotoki | that's the current status | 15:36 |
| e0ne | amotoki: thanks for update | 15:36 |
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| e0ne | #topic Open Discussion | 15:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 15:37 | |
| amotoki | Alon: you around? now your turn | 15:37 |
| e0ne | Alon, ifat_afek we can discuss react now | 15:37 |
| Alon | So... | 15:37 |
| Alon | Our plugin (Vitrage) and probably most of the others were coded with Angular 1.X | 15:38 |
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| Alon | I believe that the Horizon needs a big push to some better technologies, because the JS world changed a lot in the last 5 years | 15:38 |
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| e0ne | Alon: in general, I agree with you | 15:39 |
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| Alon | The most known libraries today are: Angular (version 6), React, and VueJS | 15:39 |
| e0ne | Alon: but we don't have enough resources for it | 15:39 |
| Alon | I would like to ask you a question... | 15:39 |
| Alon | Does anyone wants to maintain a COBOL open source library ? | 15:40 |
| Alon | Waiting... | 15:40 |
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| ifat_afek | No ;-) | 15:40 |
| rdopiera | Does anybody want to rewrite a COBOL open source library? | 15:40 |
| e0ne | :) | 15:40 |
| e0ne | angularjs 1.x is still maintained | 15:41 |
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| Alon | I think this is the reason that anyone don't like to maintain or create new plugins for Horizon | 15:41 |
| rdopiera | if we start rewriting Angular to React now, we will end up with half of code in Angular, half in React, and nobody knowing how to fix it | 15:41 |
| rdopiera | Alon: the same argument was presented for using Angular in the first place | 15:41 |
| Alon | e0ne: It's still maintained, but there are few developers using it | 15:42 |
| rdopiera | Alon: what new framework will appear there next year? | 15:42 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: :) | 15:42 |
| Alon | Angular, React, Veu - they all libraries/frameworks of JS | 15:42 |
| amotoki | i think the point is whether we need to provide components like tables as common components | 15:42 |
| e0ne | amotoki: +1 | 15:42 |
| amotoki | tables, workflow or others. | 15:43 |
| rdopiera | the point is who is going to do it | 15:43 |
| Alon | I think we need to let the developer choose his own, by his capabilities | 15:43 |
| rdopiera | Alon: fine, as long as they will also maintain it indefinitely by themselves | 15:43 |
| amotoki | apart from that, any plugin developers can use any JS framework they want | 15:43 |
| Alon | Is adding library (js code) to Horizon, is so complicated ? | 15:43 |
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| Alon | amotoki: That's interesting | 15:43 |
| e0ne | I agree with amotoki | 15:44 |
| rdopiera | you can write plugins in cobol on cogs | 15:44 |
| e0ne | but somebody has to maintain xstatic repos too | 15:44 |
| Alon | What do you think, If I'll do an "Hello World" to Horizon with the latest React ? is this possible ? | 15:44 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: we need horizon-fortran-sdk | 15:45 |
| rdopiera | e0ne: visual basic | 15:45 |
| amotoki | Alon: It can be from my limited knowledge on JS | 15:45 |
| Alon | VMWare :) why openstack | 15:45 |
| Alon | But seriously... | 15:45 |
| amotoki | visual studio now supports k8s | 15:46 |
| amotoki | just kidding | 15:46 |
| rdopiera | Alon: as long as you are ready to maintain all the code and the packages with the dependencies, choose whatever works for you | 15:46 |
| Alon | Maybe we don't understand the maintenance issue | 15:46 |
| e0ne | I don't want to block plugin development by restricting libs usage | 15:46 |
| Alon | can you elaborate ? | 15:46 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: that what I was going to say | 15:46 |
| rdopiera | Alon: someone has to package it all, and someone has to update the packages, especially when there are security issues | 15:46 |
| rdopiera | Alon: and no, just using npm doesn't work | 15:47 |
| e0ne | :) | 15:47 |
| e0ne | xstatic-* packages are required | 15:47 |
| ifat_afek | rdopiera: And is it all done today, automatically, for the existing vitrage-dashboard? | 15:47 |
| rdopiera | ifat_afek: no idea | 15:47 |
| Alon | Who's maintain all other XStatic packages ? | 15:47 |
| amotoki | ifat_afek: what do you mean by "it" | 15:47 |
| rdopiera | never heard about that plugin | 15:47 |
| rdopiera | Alon: that's the question we are asking | 15:48 |
| e0ne | oops https://github.com/openstack/vitrage-dashboard/tree/master/vitrage_dashboard/dashboard/static/vendor | 15:48 |
| e0ne | #link https://github.com/openstack/vitrage-dashboard/tree/master/vitrage_dashboard/dashboard/static/vendor | 15:48 |
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| rdopiera | they are going to have fun getting that into Debian :) | 15:49 |
| rdopiera | or any reasonable distro, really | 15:49 |
| ifat_afek | amotoki, rdopiera: We have a vitrage-dashboard plugin that is already working, for 2.5 years now. So we are trying to understand if and how you maintain it these days, and what will be changed if we start using react | 15:49 |
| e0ne | I'm afraid, that we need to fix it | 15:49 |
| amotoki | re: xstatic package, we need to consider two compelling perspectives: the one is pure JS world and the other is packaing in existing distros | 15:49 |
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| amotoki | ifat_afek: see my above comment | 15:49 |
| amotoki | npm works for developers and operators who installs JS via npm | 15:50 |
| rdopiera | we have some xstatic docs | 15:50 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: I don't remember all details, butt here was somthing licence-related to have minified js files in the repo | 15:50 |
| Alon | I think I need to make some homework, maybe some emails with one of you, to understand the develop & maintaining | 15:50 |
| amotoki | but it conflicts with current major distros | 15:50 |
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| e0ne | amotoki: +1 | 15:50 |
| rdopiera | #link https://docs.openstack.org/horizon/latest/contributor/contributing.html#javascript-and-css-libraries-using-xstatic | 15:51 |
| e0ne | Alon, ifat_afek: I can help you with it | 15:51 |
| Alon | If I will create React xstatic package for Vitrage, is that enough ? | 15:51 |
| amotoki | Alon: ifat_afek: your point is fair enough. we need to share backgrounds and motivations more | 15:51 |
| rdopiera | Alon: generally, distros such as Debian will not agree to package and carry anything that has generated or duplicate files inside | 15:51 |
| e0ne | Alon: it would be good for begining | 15:51 |
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| rdopiera | Alon: because then they have no way to track it all for security pdates | 15:51 |
| rdopiera | updates | 15:52 |
| e0ne | let me try to summarise our discussion | 15:52 |
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| Alon | It's facebook code, I think that it secured enough :) | 15:52 |
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| e0ne | Alon: nope | 15:52 |
| rdopiera | Alon: you think wrong | 15:52 |
| e0ne | 1) horizon team are ok if plugins will use some other JS libs/frameworks with is not used by horizon itself | 15:53 |
| e0ne | 2) plugin teams should maintaint xstatic-* repose by theirself | 15:53 |
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| e0ne | 3) horizon team should update docs and educate plugin developers how to work and maintain xstatic-*packages | 15:54 |
| e0ne | did I miss something? | 15:54 |
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| Alon | Last question: What do you think is my next step, in order to start with my React-Horizon POC ? | 15:54 |
| amotoki | I think we can add "4) horizon plugins can use other JS libs theoretically" | 15:55 |
| rdopiera | Alon: I think you should start by reading packaging guidelines for Debian and Fedora, for example. | 15:55 |
| e0ne | Alon: you can share PoC somewhere and I'll help you how to proceedd with all xstatic stuff | 15:55 |
| Alon | rdopiera: In order to create the needed xstatic package ? | 15:56 |
| Alon | e0ne: Thanks, that will be great ! :) | 15:56 |
| e0ne | Alon, rdopiera: and remove 'vendor' dir from your package | 15:56 |
| amotoki | we seem to bedicsussing two things mixedly: horizon plugins with non-AngularJS (ver1) and xstatic topic | 15:56 |
| e0ne | amotoki: +1 | 15:57 |
| e0ne | 3mins reminder | 15:57 |
| rdopiera | Alon: you don't *have* to use xstatic, you can come up with your own solution, as long as you are able to meet those guidelines | 15:57 |
| amotoki | perhaps we can start from a horizon plugin with other JS libs (including react, angular 2+ or others) | 15:58 |
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| amotoki | xstatic topic can be a follow-up dicsussion | 15:58 |
| Alon | OK, I'll read it later slowly to understand better | 15:58 |
| e0ne | amotoki: I thinks, I have to start a conversation in the openstack-dev@ ml | 15:59 |
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| amotoki | Alon: we can discuss it in #-horizon and the dev list. | 15:59 |
| e0ne | we're out of time:( | 15:59 |
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| e0ne | we can continue discussion in #openstack-horizon | 15:59 |
| e0ne | thanks everybody. see you next week! | 16:00 |
| amotoki | many folks have different point of views | 16:00 |
| e0ne | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 13 16:00:06 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2018/horizon.2018-06-13-15.04.html | 16:00 |
| ifat_afek | Thanks, bye :-) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2018/horizon.2018-06-13-15.04.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2018/horizon.2018-06-13-15.04.log.html | 16:00 |
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| rkukura | Its the 2nd Wednesday of June - anyone here for ML2? | 16:01 |
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