Wednesday, 2024-05-15

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ccokeke[m]Hey carloss: Hey carloss: please can you check the issue with V2  in the URL (https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/915340)09:24
jbernard#startmeeting cinder14:00
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jbernard#topic roll call14:00
zaitcevo/14:01
akawaio/14:01
whoami-rajathi14:01
rosmaitao/14:01
eharneyhi14:01
sp-bmilanovhello14:02
crohmannhi14:02
jbernardwelcome everyone14:05
jbernard#topic annoucements14:05
jbernardD-1 milestone is tomorrow14:05
jbernardi dont think it means a lot for us, libraries will be released14:06
jbernardbut otherwise we just keep rolling14:06
jbernardplease correct me if im missing something14:06
jbernardthis friday is our festival of reviews14:06
jbernardthey have been piling up, so there appears to be quite a bit to do14:07
jbernardif you can help out, that would great14:07
jbernardwould *be*, even14:07
jbernardthat's all ive got14:08
jbernardfor annoucements14:08
jbernardmoving onto topics14:08
jbernard#topic project-specific milestone dates14:08
jbernardI need to define specific dates for us for the following milestones14:08
jbernardspec freeze14:08
jbernardnew driver merged deadline14:09
jbernardand14:09
jbernardnew target driver merge deadline14:09
jbernardin looking at last cycle's scheulde, I will likely pick dates consistent with what we've done in the past14:09
jbernarddoes anyone have an specific concerns about deadlines?  do we think the default dates will work?14:10
* jungleboyj sneaks in late14:11
whoami-rajatit might also be worth looking into the Bobcat cycle deadlines since that aligns better with the release schedule of Dalmatian14:11
jbernardwhoami-rajat: that's a good idea14:11
jbernardok, i will propose those dates to the list soon and submit them for review if there are no objections14:11
jbernard#topic antelope, patch to bump ceph to reef14:12
jbernard#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack-plugin-ceph/+/91514614:12
jbernard^ this patch updates ceph from quincy to reef for 2024.1 (antelope) tests14:13
jbernardit doesn't have input from us yet14:13
jbernardthe logic seems reasonable, but i wanted to raise it in case you have an objection14:13
jbernardwhoami-rajat: has this happened before? i think ideally we'd want to test on both14:14
rosmaitawell, reef was released in the fall, i think there should be an "s" release happening soon (unless they changed their release schedule)14:15
whoami-rajatso this has already merged in Caracal and bobcat and now we are looking into merging it in antelope14:16
jbernardi dont think anything has been announced yet14:16
whoami-rajati remember we used to have a compatibility doc between ceph and openstack releases14:16
rosmaitaok, i am wrong there ... preliminary release of reef was in the fall, the official release was march 1114:17
rosmaitaso reef is the latest14:17
rosmaitathe compatibility doc is the rbd driver docs14:17
jbernardi think the logic is that, as time goes on, more folks are likely to be deploying against reef than quincy14:18
rosmaita"For a given OpenStack release, Cinder supports the current Ceph active stable releases plus the two prior releases."14:18
crohmannyes. We run Reef with Zed 14:18
whoami-rajati understand the reasoning of using the latest version in master, just trying to understand if it makes sense for stable branches and till how long we can backport it without causing a breaking change14:19
jbernardthis is my question as well14:20
crohmannI doubt there were client affecting changes for RBD in a while.14:20
crohmannThe only thing really bugging me are the Ceph caps which are so poorly documented (https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2051244)14:20
rosmaitacrohmann: have we still not documented that from the cinder side?14:22
crohmannnope, no movement to the whole issue.14:22
rosmaitawhat do we still need on that?14:23
crohmannWe need to agree which caps are ACTUALLY required (which pool by which client with which access level) and also convert this to the profile style of caps that Ceph STRONGLY advises to use14:24
jbernard#action movement on ceph caps14:27
rosmaitai know you've been working on this for about a year or so14:27
rosmaitanot sure what we can do to speed things up14:27
whoami-rajatcan get ask the operators to provide recommended profiles that they are using in their deployment currently? we can make changes to it but at least it will be a good starting point14:27
whoami-rajats/get/we14:28
rosmaitaother than just post a doc with whatever you think is correct, and let people correct it if they run into a problem14:28
crohmannIt seems that things have changed at least to profiles in the Documentation at Ceph (https://docs.ceph.com/en/latest/rbd/rbd-openstack/#setup-ceph-client-authentication)14:28
eharneyi think it'd be useful to add this to devstack-plugin-ceph so we can test it14:28
crohmanneharney: Yes, that is one of the raised issues in the referenced Launchpad bug ... that devstack does take shortcuts here14:29
rosmaitaeharney: ++14:29
crohmannwhoami-rajat: My launchpad bug (which I believe you asked me to open) actually DOES contain my own config14:29
rosmaitacrohmann: are you happy with your config, or do you hope to narrow it some more?14:31
whoami-rajatcrohmann, okay then as rosmaita said, we can use that as a starting point and review it14:32
eharneyit could potentially be narrowed more depending on things like whether glance is using ceph as a backend or not14:32
crohmannI did not mean to hijack the topics section though. I'd appreciate if someone joins the conversation in the ticket. I also gladly push some changes to docs or otherwise if there is some aggreement on what is "correct"14:32
rosmaitai think no one wants to commit to "correct", because it might not work!14:33
jbernardcrohmann: no worries, this is important14:33
eharneythis is why i think the most valuable next step is to implement it in the devstack plugin14:33
jungleboyj++14:34
crohmannI'll push a change for devstack as a starting point then. Otherwise ... join the fun train at https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/205124414:35
rosmaitathat sounds like a good plan14:35
jungleboyjAgreed.14:36
jbernardexcellent14:36
jbernard#topic backup patches14:36
zaitcevoh no14:37
jbernardreally quickly, as crohmann notes as well, there are several c-bak patches accumulating, I think we should try to review these as part of our festival efforts on friday14:37
zaitcevwhat about them?14:37
zaitcevTotally!14:37
jbernardgreat ;)14:37
jbernardthat's all for topics I had14:38
jbernardanything else from anyone? how are things going for everybody?14:38
zaitcevBackup encryption is progressing. Just slowly.14:39
jbernardprogress is good!14:40
jbernardI'll spin through the review requests today14:40
jbernard#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-dalmatian-meetings#L10414:40
jbernardif anyone would like to raise specific concerns, feel free14:40
jbernard#topic open discussion14:40
* sp-bmilanov is trying to figure out why the gate pipeline has failed, twice, on different jobs for 803823, and if he should re-run until all jobs pass14:41
crohmannjbernard: I put my change (https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/810457) in there ... as I have a specific question that I need answer to prior to pushing a hopefully final patchset. See https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/810457/comment/31a6c2c2_4750ec07/14:41
eharneythere was a suggestion in this requirements change that we merge it at the beginning of this cycle:  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/90819314:43
jbernardcrohmann: ok14:44
crohmannThere also is another question about a (potentially broken) test failing in https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/484729/comments/b6da8f16_5c9481e3?tab=comments, also keeping me from finishing this change for a final review14:45
rosmaitasp-bmilanov: i just issued a recheck, looks like a random thing14:45
whoami-rajati see this issue in the ceph tempest job, could it be related to our recent RBD changes14:46
whoami-rajatMay 15 00:45:03.833658 np0037512504 cinder-volume[113176]: ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server rbd.ImageHasSnapshots: [errno 39] RBD image has snapshots (error removing image)14:46
jbernard#action movement on crohmann blocking questions14:46
eharneywhoami-rajat: yeah i was looking at that one earlier.  first time i've seen it, not sure why yet -- i think it references a read only image14:47
whoami-rajatyeah it could be14:47
whoami-rajatMay 15 00:45:03.833658 np0037512504 cinder-volume[113176]: ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server [req-e5453de1-89c1-41e7-9c97-12b3b82181d3 req-fe8a5e99-6bbe-4cbb-a4ba-ad8f0f86e574 tempest-TestVolumeBootPattern-189137301 None] Exception during message handling: rbd.ReadOnlyImage: [errno 30] RBD read-only image (error flattening b'volume-74ed150e-1809-41ad-a759-d388e5130a3e')14:47
sp-bmilanovrosmaita: thanks!14:48
jbernardeharney: the moto bump needs to merge nowish?14:49
eharneyjbernard: i don't know about "needs", but it was bumped out to not be at the end of the last cycle.  when is the right time?14:50
jbernardeharney: if zuul posts updated results, i dont see why we couldn't get this in now14:51
jbernardok, if there's nothing else, i think we're done14:56
jbernardthanks everyone14:57
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whoami-rajatthanks jbernard !14:57
jungleboyjThank you!14:59
crohmannthank you all, bye!14:59

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