| jbernard | #startmeeting cinder | 14:01 |
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| opendevmeet | Meeting started Wed Oct 16 14:01:13 2024 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jbernard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 14:01 |
| jbernard | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-epoxy-meetings | 14:01 |
| whoami-rajat | Hi | 14:01 |
| jbernard | #topic roll call | 14:01 |
| jayaanand | Hi | 14:01 |
| jbernard | o/ | 14:01 |
| gireesh | hi | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:01 |
| jhorstmann | o/ | 14:01 |
| akawai | o/ | 14:01 |
| jbernard | im seeing etherpad updates, ill wait a bit for those to settle | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | :D | 14:04 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 14:05 |
| jbernard | ok | 14:06 |
| jbernard | #topic annoucements | 14:06 |
| jbernard | welcome everyone | 14:06 |
| jbernard | the PTG is next week | 14:06 |
| jbernard | for us, we have 3 days: | 14:06 |
| jbernard | wed, thu, and fri | 14:06 |
| jbernard | that is what I've booked and I think it will be sufficient based on the proposed topics | 14:07 |
| jbernard | friday will likely be a code review collaborative | 14:07 |
| jbernard | but we could repurpose it if needed | 14:07 |
| jbernard | that "room" will be Ocata | 14:07 |
| jbernard | #link https://ptg.opendev.org/ptg.html | 14:08 |
| jbernard | from 14 to 17 UTC | 14:08 |
| jbernard | we'll likely use the google meet link as before, i think i remember there being issues with meetpad | 14:09 |
| jbernard | but in general, it will be very much like our past virtual ptgs | 14:09 |
| jbernard | things to note: | 14:09 |
| jbernard | on monday, there is the TC track | 14:09 |
| jbernard | they will have a session for eventlet removal | 14:10 |
| jbernard | this is relevant for me at least, I'm hoping to make some headway on that this cycle | 14:10 |
| jbernard | unlike glance (which mostly uses eventlet for their wsgi service), we use eventlet directly, so our transition is likely to look different | 14:11 |
| jbernard | if you have interest in that topic, the TC track on monday will be helpful | 14:11 |
| jbernard | also | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | there's more info about eventlet removal at the top of https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/epoxy-ptg-cinder | 14:11 |
| jbernard | yup, thank rosmaita | 14:11 |
| jbernard | the horizon team has asked us to participate in a 'feature gap' meeting on wednesday | 14:12 |
| jbernard | they expect it will take ~30 minutes | 14:12 |
| jbernard | i proposed a start time of 14:30 - which gives us 30 minutes to say hello and get settled before we jump into that | 14:13 |
| jbernard | i will be sending out a mail with all of this information later today | 14:13 |
| jbernard | otherwise, what is in the etherpad is what we're working with | 14:14 |
| jbernard | ah, i still need to merge them | 14:14 |
| jbernard | that should all be fixed up today before I send the mail | 14:14 |
| jbernard | any questions or concerns about the PTG? | 14:14 |
| jbernard | anything i might have missed? | 14:14 |
| whoami-rajat | glance team is also planning a cross project | 14:15 |
| whoami-rajat | for the new location API adoption they merged last cycle | 14:15 |
| whoami-rajat | it should be between nova-cinder-glance | 14:15 |
| jbernard | whoami-rajat: yes, that's important. do we have a day/time for that? | 14:15 |
| whoami-rajat | I'm not sure, maybe we can sync with Pranali to coordinate | 14:16 |
| jbernard | #action reach out to glance about cross project coordination at ptg | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/oct2024-ptg-glance | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | looks like thursday, both image encryption and location API | 14:17 |
| jbernard | perfect | 14:17 |
| whoami-rajat | also we need to update the etherpad, the ptg page still points to the old one | 14:18 |
| whoami-rajat | cinder: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/oct2024-ptg-cinder | 14:18 |
| jbernard | yup, ill fix that today | 14:18 |
| whoami-rajat | thanks! | 14:18 |
| jbernard | im also working on the cinder-specific milestones for the general release calendar | 14:20 |
| jbernard | im likely to follow close to what we had in the dalmatian cycle, but ill post what I'm thinking before anything is confirmed | 14:21 |
| jbernard | in case we want something different | 14:21 |
| jbernard | that all from me | 14:22 |
| jbernard | next on the list is rosmaita | 14:22 |
| jbernard | non wsgi deprecations | 14:22 |
| jbernard | rosmaita: take it away | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | yeah, this just came in on the mailing list this morning | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | not sure it's a big deal for us | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | but, please read the email | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/EBV4PAMFUZCL72KC2HP7W4P47L6RYU2H/ | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | and then review the patches | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/932193 | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/932196 | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | if anyone sees a problem or has questions, we can discuss next week | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | that's all | 14:23 |
| jbernard | antelope is become unmaintained | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | yeah, projected date for the end-of-maintenance tag is oct 30 | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | so, if there's anything we want in there, it needs to be merged as soon as possible | 14:25 |
| jbernard | yes | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | you can use this handy dashboard to help in reviewing: | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | #link http://tiny.cc/cinder-maintained | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | just keep in mind that patches can't be merged into Antelope unless they are in all more recent branches | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | any questions? | 14:27 |
| jbernard | in wondering about the rbd flattening results | 14:27 |
| jbernard | i don't think ganso is around at the moment | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | i think that one merged into master when it was 2024.1 (Caracal) development | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | so it has never actually been backported | 14:30 |
| jbernard | true, i see proposals for A and B | 14:30 |
| jbernard | i think we were hoping https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack-plugin-ceph/+/919539 could be fixed up to depend on those backports so there would be better test coverage to review | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/931976 is kind of a big patch, which would argue against backporting | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | but on the other hand, it only affects a single driver, so it's kind of low risk | 14:33 |
| jbernard | eharney: are you willing to weigh in on those backports? | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | maybe if ganso could give us more info about how it's working -- i think he has applied the patch in his cloud | 14:34 |
| jbernard | we have about 2 weeks before final release, but that time is going to fly, especially with the ptg next week | 14:34 |
| jbernard | i think this all for the adgenda today | 14:38 |
| jbernard | #topic open discussion | 14:38 |
| * sp-bmilanov is trying to find any follow-ups on https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-drivers-documentation | 14:39 | |
| whoami-rajat | yeah we should rediscuss the driver documentation | 14:40 |
| sp-bmilanov | as I understand it, sometimes an entry point to OpenStack is starting work on a Cinder backend driver, and an overview article focused on this with pointers to the other relevant documentation might be useful | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | sp-bmilanov: don't think there has been any action on that, i think all our efforts were devoted to the driver-interface-docstring update | 14:41 |
| whoami-rajat | with new expected driver proposals next cycle, this will be very useful | 14:41 |
| jbernard | i know several patches ot the interface docstrings landed | 14:42 |
| jbernard | but there are still a few gaps remaining | 14:42 |
| jbernard | that's not an overview though | 14:43 |
| jbernard | sp-bmilanov: is anyone working on this? | 14:43 |
| sp-bmilanov | no, I read through the drivers doc etherpad just now, with the feedback from yuval | 14:44 |
| sp-bmilanov | s/no/I don't know/ | 14:44 |
| whoami-rajat | I remember Gorka and I created an etherpad that had all work items | 14:45 |
| whoami-rajat | let me try to find it | 14:45 |
| whoami-rajat | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/document-driver-interface | 14:48 |
| whoami-rajat | here it is, took an eternity to find | 14:48 |
| jbernard | yep, we started the dalmatian cycle with that if i recall | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | thanks for finding that, i added it to the "spotlight links" at the top of the meeting agenda | 14:49 |
| jbernard | sp-bmilanov: is that helpful? | 14:50 |
| whoami-rajat | thanks rosmaita , that would be easier to find next time | 14:50 |
| whoami-rajat | we also have lesser owners now with Pete and Gorka not around | 14:52 |
| jbernard | true | 14:53 |
| sp-bmilanov | jbernard: not sure, it seems too low-levew, my impression is that yuval is looking for a single overview that introduces OpenStack to a person just now starting with Cinder backend driver development | 14:53 |
| jbernard | sp-bmilanov: ahh, i understand. i don't think we currently have such a thing | 14:54 |
| jbernard | sp-bmilanov: are you and/or yuval interested in driving that effort? | 14:54 |
| sp-bmilanov | I might give it some thought, I will get back to you with a draft if I can write something up | 14:55 |
| jbernard | sound good | 14:56 |
| jbernard | sounds, even | 14:57 |
| jbernard | ok, last call | 14:57 |
| jbernard | thanks everyone, i look forward to next week's dicussions | 14:58 |
| jbernard | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Wed Oct 16 14:58:40 2024 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/cinder/2024/cinder.2024-10-16-14.01.html | 14:58 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/cinder/2024/cinder.2024-10-16-14.01.txt | 14:58 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/cinder/2024/cinder.2024-10-16-14.01.log.html | 14:58 |
| whoami-rajat | thanks everyone! | 14:58 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks! | 14:58 |
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