Tuesday, 2011-12-13

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zulanyone here for the ec2 api team meeting?14:57
smoseri'm here.14:58
zulwell thats all that matters then :)14:59
openstackMeeting started Tue Dec 13 15:00:45 2011 UTC.  The chair is zul. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
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zulhi welcome to the nova ec2 api team meeting15:00
zulthe agenda is the following:15:01
zul1. bugs bugs and more bugs15:01
zul2. blueprints15:01
zul3. Openfloor15:01
zul#topic bugs bugs and more bugs15:01
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zulso the current list of bugs that are tagged with ec2 is at the following:15:01
zulone that i want to highlight is something that smoser has reported which is the following:15:02
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 903405 in nova "ec2 metadata service extremely unreliable" [Undecided,New]15:02
smoseri should comment in that bug. i can't reproduce that. :-(15:02
zuloh really?15:02
smoseryeah. but i clearly did see it.15:03
smosera re-isntall of devstack cleared away the issue.15:03
zulyou just pulled in a new a new version or something and it cant be reproduced?15:03
zulwell its something to keep an eye on15:03
smoseri don't think any source actually fixed the issue.15:03
smoseras i used the same source, just deleted all database state and started fresh.15:04
zulso it could have been a database thing not sure15:04
zulok then something to test in the future15:04
zulsmoser: in the testing you did yesterday how was the performance of the metadata server?15:05
smoseri believe bad.15:05
zuldid you percieve it as still slow15:05
smoserbut i only ran 2 instances.15:05
smoserand it wasn't good15:05
smoserbut i dont think that patch has landed in trunk, right?15:06
zuli doubt it15:06
smoserso there would be no reason to expect it to not be as bad as ever.15:06
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zulhi bcwaldon15:06
bcwaldoncarry on :)15:06
smoseri'm not familiar enough with how nova (bcwaldron probably is) in this regard.15:07
zulright so i think we might have to through gerrit and look for ec2 specific stuff and help the review process along15:07
smoserbut i had a thought that it might make sense to jsut cache the last N results of the metadata query to memory15:07
zulsince the review process can be slow sometimes15:07
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smoserand then draw from that in the metadata server code to avoid the DB hit.15:07
zulsmoser: i think that would be a good idea15:07
zulany other comments15:08
smoseri just dont know where really maintaining that cache would occur.  ie, what code is there that i could use to keep such a cache alive.15:08
zulsmoser: do you want to have a look at it and maybe come up with a proposal?15:09
smoserthen, each request would still make a round trip to the ec2-api server, but it'd just hit cache.15:09
bcwaldonwe only recently added our first caching piece to nova (in the network manager, I think), so this is all new territory15:09
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bcwaldonsmoser: I'm curious if there's something else slowing you down, I wouldn't imagine a db lookup w/ 2 instances in it could be slow15:09
smoserslow ~ .5 secodns or something for a lookup.15:10
bcwaldonsmoser: that's an eternity15:10
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smoserit goes to multiple seconds when you get lots of instances15:10
smoserlet me check really quick if i have it up15:10
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smoseryeah... here15:11
bcwaldonyou should ping vishy and see what kind of performance he sees with it15:11
smoser$ time ec2metadata --local-ipv415:11
smoserreal    0m 0.35s15:11
smoseruser    0m 0.00s15:11
smosersys     0m 0.00s15:11
smoserthats from an instance, (one of 2 ran in this openstack installation ever).15:11
smoserso .35 seconds for one http request.15:11
bcwaldonyeah, that's way too long15:11
bcwaldonI'm willing to bet there's something else at play here...15:12
smoserthat is on an all-in-one system... but still.15:12
bcwaldonare you using trunk?15:12
smoseryes. devstack install yesterday.15:12
smoserthis is a known issue.15:12
smoserbug 85115915:12
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 851159 in nova "ec2 metadata service is very slow" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85115915:13
zulok so not wanting to beating a dead horse in the bug list there are some patches attached to the bug reports so it would be a good idea to move some of those patches to gerrit so they can get in15:14
zulso im going to start doing that this week.15:14
zulgood idea bad idea?15:14
zulim assuming it is a good idea15:15
zulso moving on15:15
zul#topic blueprints15:15
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zulso we have a blueprint assigned to us already: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/aws-api-validation15:16
zulthe work has already been done in gerrit but the review is getting stale, so i think we might have to contact the author of the patch and drive it through to completion15:16
zulsounds good?15:17
smosersounds good.15:17
zuli want to go through the list of blueprints to see if there are any other ec2 specific blueprints and see where they are and hope to offer some help to the authors as well.15:18
zulwith that i want to open the floor for some discussion15:18
zul#topic openfloor15:19
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zulanyone have anything to bring up?15:19
zulttx: i bet you are lurking around15:19
zulsmoser: do you have anything15:20
zulDaviey: do you have anything?15:20
ttxbusy on a security issue, sorry15:20
zulno worries15:20
zulDaviey: seems to be afk15:20
smoseri dont have anything.15:20
smoserother than that i'll say i'm very happy witih devstack at the momeent15:20
zulok anyone else?15:20
smoserand the ease in being able to get to a point where you can dtest things.15:21
smoseractually.. i guess i do have something15:21
zulsmoser: cool beans you will have to show me it15:21
smoserone piece of work that is bigger than a bread box that is essential to ec2 api is publish-image15:21
smoserbug 90334515:21
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 903345 in nova "no way to publish-image if nova uses keystone (no EC2_CERT)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90334515:21
smoseri opened yesterday.15:21
zulyeah i saw this yesterday15:22
zulits something that is definently need to be fixed otherwise the cloud-publish scripts would be quite useless15:22
smoserthat is not just a simple bug fix like many of the other ec2 issues.15:22
smoseri'm happy to add "native glance" support to the cloud-publish tools15:23
smoserbut the immediate issue with that is that currently they result in an ami being output.15:23
zuli think alot of people would like that15:23
smoserbut if you use glance upload, then there is no way to link what you get back (a glance uuid) to a ec2 api image.15:24
smoserer... an ami-id15:24
smoserso i can't just swap out the "euca-publish-image" and "euca-bundle-vol" with glance-upload.15:24
zulits definently something we need to look at15:25
smoseri guess one way to cheat might be to allow nova ec2-api input to take a uuid...15:25
smoserDescribeImages uuid would basically then do the conversion for you.15:26
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zulbut then you need to convert it to something euca2ools understands dont you?/15:26
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smoserwell, if the DescribeImages returned the same results that it would if you gave it the ami-id, then wed' be fine15:27
smoserec2-describe-images GLANCE_UUID15:27
smoserparse result15:27
smosershow ami-id15:27
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zulanyone else have anything?15:28
zulif not.....15:28
zulthanks for coming15:28
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medberrynice meeting. (from scrollback)15:42
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joesavakanyone here for the keystone meeting?18:01
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zns1Anyone here for the Keystone meeting?18:03
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joesavaki asked earlier and no one piped up18:03
znsOK. Let's go back to coding then. Lots to do!18:04
znsI'll keep IRC open in case anyone shows up.18:04
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znsgyee: hi18:10
gyeehi, I was testing ec2 signature validation over the weekend, found a couple of issues18:10
notmynameI've got a keystone issue (zns, joesavak)18:10
gyeeI wonder if there are bugs currently open for them18:10
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joesavakhi notmyname18:11
znsgyee: did you file bugs?18:11
gyeefor version 2 signatures, keystone was changing the data before the hmac calculation18:11
znsnotmyname: Hi! What is it?18:11
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gyeezns, no, I can file one18:12
notmynamejoesavak: zns: we've got a work-in-progress review right now for swift that adds signed URLs (allowing you to distribute a public URL that expires). it might not be a bad idea for you to look at it, since I guess that at some point you'll want to have a similar capability18:12
notmynamejoesavak: zns: https://review.openstack.org/#change,224618:12
gyeejust  want to see if anyone else running into the same issue18:12
znsgyee: thanks. Let us know when you have and we can take a look.18:12
znsgyee: I haven't heard of it. What client are you using?18:13
notmynamejoesavak: zns: so not an "issue" per se, just something for you to be aware of18:13
gyeeI was using nova signer.py to generate the signatuers18:13
znsnotmyname: thanks! We have that on our roadmap, but have not started on it yet. So your review should help.18:13
notmynameit's still work-in-progress, but the docstrings on the new middleware are what you should look at for the basic idea18:14
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znsnotmyname: looks good; well documented. If we don't have a BP on this I'll create one and reference your review.18:16
notmynamebut also, keep in mind that assuming this patch gets merged, we'll have this feature apart from any auth system18:17
znsnotmyname: that's fine. We can then deliver it to other services and we'll need to get it working with swift and Keystone.18:20
znsnotmyname: added https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/keystone-timed-access18:20
znsgyee: ec2_token.py from where?18:21
gyeezns, I was using ec2_token.py from keystone18:22
gyeekeystone's ec2_token.py may need some refactoring as well, right now the url is hardcoded and it has no support for two-way SSL18:22
znsOh, I see. ec2_token.py middleware. And signer.py was the client? Were you making a call in euca_tools or through code?18:24
gyeeI wrote my own simple ec2 test client, using nova signer.py to generate various signatures.18:27
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mtaylorhey all19:02
mtayloranybody want to talk about CI?19:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Dec 13 19:02:47 2011 UTC.  The chair is mtaylor. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:02
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mtaylorhey carlp19:03
mtaylorso - I made a bunch of bugs this past weekend19:04
mtaylorwhich accomplished project "move the todo list off of monty's laptop and in to launchpad"19:04
mtaylorthere are a couple of official tags for things - jenkins, gerrit, ppa19:04
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mtaylorand we decided to reserve the Critical bug priority to refer to things that a broken right now and should cause us to stop working on other things and address it right now19:05
mtaylor(a good for-instance here is the current bug 903839)19:06
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 903839 in openstack-ci "nova stable/diablo unit test gate job fails due to wrong virtualenv" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90383919:06
mtaylorwhich jim has a possible solution for19:06
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mtayloralso - if anybody wants to pick up fun tasks to hack on, there are certainly several in there :)19:07
anotherjessemtaylor: i'm here too19:07
mtayloranotherjesse: no worries. I'm just prattling on about bugs19:07
anotherjesseI need to update https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-common/+spec/client-strategy / http://wiki.openstack.org/essex-clients based on your email earlier this week19:08
mtayloranotherjesse: sweet19:09
anotherjessemtaylor: for master we hope to run tempest against a devstack deploy?19:09
anotherjesseto gate trunk (eventually)19:10
mtayloranotherjesse: yes. completely. I think last we tried tempest wasn't properly running (yet) against the devstack deploy19:11
anotherjessemtaylor: cool - dtroyer had been working on build_ci_config.sh for devstack that configured tempest - not sure what the current status is19:11
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mtayloryeah - we definitely want to do that as soon as it's ready19:13
adam_gwill this be run against a single-node devstack deploy or multi-node?19:18
mtaylorfirst step is single-node19:18
mtaylorwe'll spin up a multi-node as soon as that's up and happy19:18
mtaylor(because tempest against single-node is a big win)19:19
adam_gas a side note and update to anyone interested/present at the UDS session about it, i'm hoping we (canonical) will have our multi-node test cluster up before the new year. i'm currently working on getting the packaging in better shape and the missing juju charms complete.19:24
mtayloranotherjesse: did you see the bug I filed about figuring out how to collaborate on jenkins job configs via git?19:25
mtayloradam_g: awesome19:25
mtayloranotherjesse: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/90296719:26
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 902967 in openstack-ci "Jenkins job descriptions should be in git" [High,Triaged]19:26
mtayloranotherjesse: I'm going to try to see if I can get some traction on that so that we can more easily do code reviews for each other and stuff19:30
mtayloralso - it looks like I've got some contractors who are going to do some jenkins plugin hacking for us over the next couple of months19:31
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mtaylorI think that's about all I've got for this week19:35
* ttx lurks19:37
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vishyo/ \o21:00
ttxjaypipes, devcamcar: around ?21:00
ttxjoesavak: you represent zns ?21:00
joesavak(sub for zns)21:00
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ttxjaypipes: ping?21:01
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ttxok, let's start, Jay will hopefully join21:02
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ttxWelcome everyone to our weekly general meeting !21:02
ttxToday's agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/TeamMeeting21:02
ttx#info This is the last day before cutting milestone-proposed branches for Nova/Glance/Keystone/Horizon E221:02
ttx#topic Actions from previous meeting21:02
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ttx* joesavak/zns to sync with HP for updated status on their blueprints21:03
ttxjoesavak/zns: in particular, I'd like to know if keystone-swift-acls should be considered completed21:03
joesavakI think it should. From what i understand the BP scope is beta only21:03
joesavakper HP:21:04
joesavak"Swauth ACLs are implemented and checked in by Liem.  He expanded upon the contribution of another user to make things more modular, add user based ACLs, and memcache."21:04
ttxok, will mark completed then21:04
ttx* vishy to find a victim or complete by himself nova-volume-snapshot-backup-api21:04
ttxThat was done, just needs a final review, afaict21:04
vishyyes yes21:05
ttxwe'll mention it during nova status21:05
ttx* vishy to sync with david-perez on finishing up nova-vm-state-management21:05
ttxThat's done21:05
ttx* ttx to discuss options for getting a sane list of reviews with CI guys21:05
ttxThat's not done yet, pushing back:21:05
ttx#action ttx to discuss options for getting a sane list of reviews with CI guys21:05
ttx* jaypipes to get status updates from mtaylor on Glance packaging issues21:05
ttxwe'll mention that during the glance status, if Jay arrives before then21:06
ttx#topic Keystone status21:06
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ttx#link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/essex-221:06
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ttxzns, joesavak: What's the status of portable-identifiers ? I see two reviews in progress.21:06
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joesavakyes - there'll be another review coming in for the user portable identifiers21:07
joesavakonce the 3 are reviewed, then we're good21:07
ttxjoesavak: Are they all going to make it today ?21:07
ttxor should we defer that feature for E3 ?21:07
joesavakttx: no - we believe it should be tomorrow. Can we cut keystone e2 tomorrow?21:07
ttxideally I will create the branch tomorrow morning... so we have two options if you want this in E221:08
ttxwe can wait a bit before branching, or you can backport them to milestone-proposed21:09
ttxin this case, I'd rather defer or wait a bit21:09
joesavakmy preference is to wait a bit21:09
znsttx: good progress. We will need till tomorrow.21:09
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ttxjoesavak: ok.21:09
joesavakttx: thanks21:10
ttx#info wait to cut milestone-proposed branch for Keystone until tomorrow morning US time :)21:10
ttxYou also have two E2-targeted bugs left (that should be fixed by tomorrow):21:10
ttxBug 900916 (Support D5 API Contract, Critical, zns)21:10
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 900916 in keystone "Support D5 API Contract" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90091621:10
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joesavaka review is in for that21:10
ttxand Bug 87875921:10
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 878759 in keystone "better manual page with description needed for keystone." [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87875921:10
znsttx: we are waiting on feedback. We have some already, but this is ready to go in.21:11
joesavakI need to get info from koolhead to see if this is closed.21:11
ttxnot sure that last one is critical anyway21:11
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joesavakI don't think it is21:11
ttxwill keep it on list until tomorrow21:11
ttxQuick look at the E3 plan at https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/essex-321:11
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ttxjoesavak/zns: Would be good to get the disruptive stuff early in the milestone21:12
ttxrbac-keystone in particular21:12
ttxso that the other projects can catch up with the feature if needed21:12
ttxjoesavak/zns: Anything else ?21:12
joesavaknot from me21:12
ttxQuestions for Keystone ?21:12
ttx#topic Swift status21:13
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ttxnotmyname: o/21:13
notmynameI don't think I have anything, but I'm happy to answer questions21:13
ttxQuestions on Swift ?21:14
ttxapprently not, that was fast :)21:14
ttxjaypipes: around ?21:14
ttxlet's skip to give him a chance to join. Otherwise I'll abuse bcwaldon as a hotswap21:15
ttx#topic Nova status21:15
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bcwaldonttx: I'm here if you need me21:15
ttxvishy: heya21:15
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/essex-221:15
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ttxvishy: Given how ambitious the plan was, I'd say the results are not too bad :)21:16
ttxWe need nova-volume-snapshot-backup-api in <-- please review21:16
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ttxmissing +2s21:16
vishythe security groups one we need to push21:17
ttxLooks like xenapi-security-groups will be deferred to E3, unless someone from Citrix has a last-minute surprise21:17
ttxvishy/westmaas: What's the state for internal-uuids ? Just a review away from completion ? Or are there more in the giant pipe ?21:17
vishynot bad all of the essential and highs.21:17
vishyone miss on the mediums and a few lows21:17
vishythat seems reasonable21:17
westmaasttx, one last merge21:17
ttxwestmaas: ok, so would be nice to get that one in21:18
westmaaswe think the tests are a false positive, its re-running now21:18
ttx#info last minute E2 reviews needed for: https://review.openstack.org/#change,2244 and https://review.openstack.org/#change,120221:18
westmaasand then we can close that bp out21:18
vishyif the tests pass i will approve it21:18
ttxThe remaining six are Low ones, which will probably be deferred to E3, unless something fast happens tonight:21:18
ttx(pci-passthrough, openvz-driver, aws-api-validation, deleting-compute-node-table, openstack-api-ssl and consolidate-testing-infrastructure)21:19
ttxvishy: OK to cut the milestone-proposed branch early tomorrow morning with what's in ?21:19
ttx#info milestone-proposed will be cut wed morning with what's in21:19
ttxTwo bugs on the E2-targets so far:21:19
ttxBug 899767 (danwent)21:19
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 899767 in quantum "live_migration does not perform vif unplugging " [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89976721:19
danwentttx, this has two +1s21:20
ttxwould be good to get in before branching as well, will spare a backport21:20
danwentwe also have two other fixes related to Quantum that are being reviewed.  working with trey and the nova-network team on those.  I expect them in by tonight.21:20
ttx#help please also review https://review.openstack.org/#change,2253,patchset=121:21
ttxBug 901594 (ttx)21:21
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 901594 in nova "Change in hostname exposition renders EC2 API unusable" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90159421:21
ttxThis one is ready for review, but there is still some discussion on whether it's appropriate...21:21
ttxvishy: made your mind yet ?21:22
danwent#help other quauntum reviews https://review.openstack.org/#change,2265  and https://review.openstack.org/#change,226621:22
ttxdanwent: do we need those in E2 for quantum to work ok ?21:22
ttxif yes, would be good to target the corresponding bugs to E221:22
danwentttx:  first one prevents melange from working correctly, so I thin it is important.21:22
* ttx adds21:22
danwentotherone was found by Aaron Lee… not sure what it impacts.21:23
ttx..if only there was a bug ref21:23
vishyapproved the first one21:23
tr3buchetdanwent: i knocked out a few of them, but got busy again21:23
danwentttx:  yes, great shame...21:23
ttxdanwent: can't track what's not in a bug or blueprint21:23
vishyttx: I think I'd like to leave it for now21:23
danwentreally appreaciate all of the help trey…21:23
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danwentttx: yes, I will smack the appropriate party :P21:23
vishyttx: we can revert for essex if euca doesn't merge smoser's patch21:24
vishy(and the dns support from wikimedia doesn't make it in)21:24
ttxvishy: ok, will abandon and downgrade prio then21:24
ttxAnything blatantly missing from this E2 buglist, things that *need* to be fixed before we can release the milestone ?21:24
vishyttx: more importantly, does anyone know?21:24
smoservishy, what is "dns support from wikimedia" ?21:25
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ttx#action ttx to reprioritize 90159421:25
ttxvishy: do we have a blueprint for that ?21:25
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smoseri suspect its not a full work around, as i'm not terribly likely to want to use an openstack provided dns server just because i want to run an instance.21:27
ttxvishy: still with us ?21:28
ttxIntermission: Nova subteam leads: anything you wanted to add ?21:28
vishythere is a blueprint yes21:28
ttxvishy: cannot find it, did they commit to a given milestone ?21:29
vishyit ressurected itself21:29
vishyi had marked it deferred because I didn't think it was happening21:29
ttxvishy: E3 ?21:30
vishywhat about e3?21:30
ttx#action vishy to properly resurrect public-and-private-dns and target it21:30
ttxAn early look at E3: https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/essex-321:31
ttxvishy: Do you have all you want in there ?21:31
vishyI'm going to do a scrub today and send out an email to subteam leads21:31
ttxMaybe you should communicate a bit more clearly than you don't really want new features after E3, that may trigger vocations :)21:31
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ttxvishy: Anything else ?21:31
vishygood call21:32
ttxQuestions on Nova ?21:32
Vek"vocations"?  Well, the US *does* need more jobs, but...21:32
* Vek ducks21:33
ttxLet's switch to the next project21:33
ttx#topic Horizon status21:33
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ttxdevcamcar: o/21:33
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ttx#link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/essex-221:33
ttxSo you have 2 blueprints still in progress...21:33
devcamcarttx: one is in review right now21:34
devcamcarso that one will land21:34
devcamcarencompasses a number of other fixes and as such will probably get moved to e3, though most of it is done21:35
ttxdevcamcar: can I cut the milestone-proposed branch around 1am your time if all features are in ?21:35
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ttxdevcamcar: ok, just keep the blueprint status updated. Will wait if any of those are not marked implemented21:35
devcamcarwill do21:35
ttxYou also have 11 E2-targeted bugs21:36
ttxThe critical ones that aren't fixed today and happen tomorrow can be backported to milestone-proposed oce it's created21:36
devcamcarsounds good!21:36
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ttxA quick look at: https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/essex-321:36
ttxSounds ambitious like always, but sane :)21:37
devcamcarwe will have an additional full time resource during e3 as well21:37
ttx#info horizon MP branch will be cut around 1am / 2am Pacific if all targeted blueprints are marked completed or deferred21:37
ttx#info RelMgt will wait if any of those is still marked "Good progress"21:38
ttxcool ! and welcome :)21:38
ttxdevcamcar: Anything else ?21:38
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devcamcarthat's all! thanks21:38
ttxQuestions for Horizon ?21:38
ttxjaypipes: still not around ?21:39
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ttxlet's try to see if bcwaldon and me can make a convincing Mr Pipes.21:39
bcwaldonI'll do my best21:40
ttx#topic Glance status21:40
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ttx#link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/essex-221:40
ttxLooks like protected-images will not make it ?21:40
bcwaldonyep, I'm going to push that back to E3. It was temporarily abandoned21:40
bcwaldonjust made a note asking the author what the status is21:40
ttxOK, so we have nothing to wait for, I can cut the milestone-proposed branch early tomorrow morning ?21:40
bcwaldonttx: yeah, there is one bug I want to get in21:41
ttxbugs can still get in once the branch is cut21:41
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bcwaldonok, then sure21:41
bcwaldonwe're all good21:41
ttx(just needs to be targeted to E2 and proposed to milestone-proposed21:41
bcwaldoncompleted 100% of our blueprints!21:41
ttxYou also have 7 E2-targeted bugs left.21:41
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ttxnot sure how many of those actually are E2-critical21:42
bcwaldonsome of those have reviews in progress that stalled out21:42
bcwaldonI'll untarget some of them21:42
bcwaldonI dont think any are critical21:42
ttxbcwaldon: there were a number of them around packaging that Jay was supposed to discuss with mtaylor21:42
ttxbcwaldon: I bet we need bug 901534 fixed21:43
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 901534 in glance "Data loss of properties during normal server snapshot process" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90153421:43
bcwaldonyes, thats one I want in21:43
ttx#info Glance Mp can be cut tomorrow morning21:43
ttxbcwaldon: Anything else ?21:43
bcwaldonThat's all21:44
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ttxQuestions on Glance ?21:44
ttxbhall: thx for the bugs :)21:44
bcwaldonbug fixes!21:44
bhallttx: np :)21:45
ttx#topic Incubated projects and other Team reports21:45
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ttxdanwent, troytoman: o/21:45
ttxannegentle: o/21:45
danwentanne, go first :)21:45
annegentleoh  you're a gentleman :)21:45
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annegentleWe had our Doc Team meeting yesterday. One decision that came out of it was to start a Launchpad project called openstack-org for tracking bugs and content requests for openstack.org21:46
annegentle#info Anne will create a Launchpad project called openstack-org for tracking bugs and content requests for openstack.org21:46
ttxthe process for updating was quite opaque so far :)21:46
annegentleWe are also actively seeking input on the translation process I outlined on the mailing list.21:47
annegentleAlso looking to integrate translation process with translation of select bits of OpenStack.org content21:48
annegentleInput welcomed!21:48
lloyddeoops, I've forwarded it to a couple of big tranlsators21:48
ttxannegentle: anything else ?21:49
annegentlelloydde: That's fine, just want to test the process and set expectations that it's new.21:49
annegentleThat's the highlights, Summary available at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-12-12-20.03.html.21:49
* annegentle gives mic to danwent 21:49
danwentthanks to a big push in the last few days, we're in pretty good shap.21:50
danwenttwo bps still in review, one open bp it is a documentation issue21:50
ttxdanwent: let me know if you need help to cut the MP branch21:50
danwent7 open bugs still, but all in review.21:50
danwentttx:  thanks.  we now have the permissions I believe, but will definitely let you know.21:50
danwentthat is all on my end.21:51
ttxtroytoman: your turn21:51
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troytomanwe are planning to do an initial "release" of melange within a week of the E-2 milestone.21:51
troytomanwe just want enough time to make sure that everything works in a nova/quantum/melange configuration21:52
ttxsounds good21:52
danwentsuper simple, right? :)21:52
troytomanof course!21:52
troytomanttx: i could use some pointers on how to actually do the release21:52
troytomanmtaylor: we still need the repository for melange-client21:53
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ttxtroytoman: ok, I'll point you to the material we have21:53
troytomanotherwise, i think we are in good shape21:53
danwentttx: please send pointers my way as well.21:53
ttx#action ttx to give danwent/troytoman more information on release process21:54
ttxAny other team lead with a status report ?21:55
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ttx#topic Open discussion21:55
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ttxWe plan to organize a big bug squashing event over two days early in January, where the goal will be to close as many bugs as possible21:55
ttxIt should happen in physical places like your local OpenStack community, and also online.21:56
annegentleLove the bug squash.21:56
ttxStay tuned for more info on that.21:56
ttxIn other news, only a few days left to submit talks to the FOSDEM "Open Source Virtualization and Cloud" devroom: https://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2011-November/001354.html21:56
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ttx(great excuse to come taste great beers)21:56
ttxAnything else, anyone ?21:57
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uksysadminI've a q (taking advantage) if that's ok on bug -> release process for Diablo?21:57
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ttxuksysadmin: sure, go ahead21:57
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ttx(if it fits in the next minute)21:58
uksysadminI run Diablo - on Oneiric from stable packages.  For bug fixes - do I wait for Essex or are there planned updates?21:58
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ttxuksysadmin: we have a stable/diablo branch with backports of bugfixes21:59
ttxuksysadmin: the stable team plans to do a 2011.3.1 at some point21:59
uksysadminok - cheers21:59
vishybhall: ping21:59
ttxon that good oops, we close21:59
vishy(wrong channel) :)21:59
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danwentright on time ttx… very impressive :)21:59
ttxThanks everyone !21:59
ttxdanwent: jaypipes almost lost me22:00
uksysadminttx, paid me to ask that question and do the slow typing thing so it made it bang on the hour22:00
ttxuksysadmin: I owe you a Black Rat.22:00
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uksysadminthat's a threat where I come from22:00
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openstackMeeting started Tue Dec 13 22:00:51 2011 UTC.  The chair is danwent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.22:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.22:00
danwenthello netstack folks22:00
danwentquite a crowd… great22:01
danwentshould be a short meeting22:01
mesteryHey folks!22:01
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salv-orlandoHi Kyle!22:01
danwenthey, good to have you here mestery22:01
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danwentOk, first off, thanks to everyone for the big push in feature dev + reviews in the past few days… the essex-2 milestone page looks MUCH better now :)22:02
danwent#topic Melange Status22:02
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danwenttroy: does it make sense to have you give updates here and in incubated status?22:02
danwentdon't want to force you to repeat yourself22:03
troytomanprobably not unless people have detailed question22:03
danwentor perhaps you just copy/paste :P22:03
troytomani could do that too22:03
troytomanwe're trying to tighten things up to do a first release22:03
troytomanwould love questions/feedback or other involvement22:03
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danwentOk, well, if its just an update, you can skip the netstack meeting + I can copy paste.  If you ahve more details, feel free to stick around.22:04
troytomaninitial functionality can be found in the docs and is now mostly in blueprints on launchpad22:04
danwentgreat, first release is a big one :)22:05
troytomancarlp: are you still looking at integrating discovery with melange?22:05
carlptroytoman: Yes, that is my plan22:05
mtaylortroytoman: GAH. I suck.22:05
carlpI was waiting for things to stabilize, so I don't know if it will be an E3 thing or not22:06
troytomancarlp: cool. the mac address functionality that we discussed at the summit is now in melange22:06
carlptroytoman: awesome!22:06
troytomancarlp: ok. we can coordinate early in the new year22:06
carlptroytoman: sounds good, I'm looking forward to it!22:06
troytomanmtaylor: i just need a repo :)22:06
troytomani think that's it for me unless there are questions22:07
danwenttroytoman:  I think i mailed you about this, but it would be great to get some unit test coverage in the melange code in nova.22:07
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troytomandanwent: yes. we are looking at the best way to do that. but, we will address it.22:07
danwentawesome, thanks.22:07
troytomanwill be adding some integration test soon as well22:07
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danwenttroytoman… cool.  please keep me in the loop about your integrationi testing plans… carlp and I have been working to put together something, though its been slow going.22:08
carlpdanwent: same here, so no hard feelings :)22:09
danwenttroytoman, will this be full nova + quantum + melange integrationt tests?22:09
danwentcarlp:  yes, if we're both way behind, who can blame who? :)22:09
troytomanyes. probably initially in our RAX test environment but we want to generalize it22:09
danwentgreat… any integration test coverage is a big step up from zero :)22:09
danwentok, anything else on melange?22:10
troytomanit's also better than mocking out all of melange22:10
danwent#topic Quantum Status22:10
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danwentOk, for essex-2 milestone, we will branch early tomorrow morning (assume 8am)22:11
danwentcurrent status: https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/essex-222:11
danwent#info for essex-2 milestone, we will branch early tomorrow morning (assume 8am)22:11
salv-orlandocan we prioritize the branch still under review?22:11
danwentthe idea of the milestone-proposed branch is that only significant bug-fixes go in to that branch, not features.22:11
danwentsalv: definite, can we wait a sec though?22:12
danwentso if you are developing a feature, it really needs to be in by tomorrow morning.22:12
danwenthere are open reviews: https://review.openstack.org/#q,status:open+project:openstack/quantum,n,z22:13
mtaylortroytoman: assume I'm brain dead today - you just need an empty repo on gerrit, yeah?22:14
danwenttwo "features" left are: https://review.openstack.org/2279 and https://review.openstack.org/228122:14
danwentsalv + brad have already reviewed prior verisons of the latter, so a quick re-review should be sufficient.22:14
troytomanmtaylor: yes. we'll move the client code into it22:14
danwentfirst branch is edgars… it is isolated to Cisco plugin, right?22:15
mtaylortroytoman: great.22:15
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danwentedgarmagana: is that correct?22:15
danwentanyway, edgar said he has reworked the branch, though I haven't had a chance to review.22:16
mtaylortroytoman: python-melangeclient ok? (to match the other projects)22:16
edgarmaganadan: services insertion bp has been already reviewed by Rohit and Ying22:16
troytomanmtaylor: sounds good22:16
danwentI believe its important to them though.  I have some concerns with how the code is structured, but edgar promised to clean it up in E-3, so we're going to try and get it in today.22:17
edgarmaganaand yes, it has been moved to Cisco plugin22:17
edgarmaganaand yes again, we will change the way we are calling nova pi for essex-322:17
danwentedgarmagana: ah, i see, their reviews were wiped because of a new patch set, but I see their comments.22:17
edgarmaganaI fixed something pointed out by Rohit22:18
danwentOk, I will review as well later today, and as long as there aren't any violent objects, it will go in for E-2, then be reworked for E3.22:18
edgarmaganawe just need an external review22:18
edgarmaganadan: sounds good!22:18
danwentI will also be submitting a patch that will remove a lot of duplicate stuff from the README, and covering it in external docs.22:18
danwentplease keep an eye out for that though, as I'd like to get it in today.  Other doc reviews can lag behind.22:19
danwentonto the bugs:22:19
danwentsalv, was there a bug you particularly wanted to highlight?22:19
salv-orlandoNot really. I just wante to make sure the changeset #2281 was on-schedule for essex-222:19
danwentgreat. I think if you and brad just review my little diff, we should be good.22:20
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salv-orlandothat will be done in the next hour22:20
danwentbhall, those two fixes you have look fairly important22:21
danwentparticularly the first one.22:22
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danwentother bugs under review seem like nice to haves… unless anyone really wants to push for something in particular?22:22
bhallhorizon worked around the first one22:22
danwentah, sorry, i meant the dB one22:22
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bhalloh, yeah22:22
bhallthat one shoudl go in :)22:22
bhallthe other can wait until later22:22
danwentbhall, the setup.py one can wait you're saying?22:23
danwentok, good to know22:23
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salv-orlandobhall: I looked at the diff, but I don't get why merge does not work. Can you provide more details?22:23
danwentanything else from folks on e-2?  we will send out an email when the milestone-proposed branch is created.  that's when we should spend cycles testing to make sure the milestone code is solid22:23
salv-orlandoreview.openstack.org/1576 just needs a little push...22:24
bhallsalv-orlando: I think it was more with the session mgmt.. but I would unplug the port and see the operations happening to unplug22:24
bhallthen look in the db, and the attachment_id was still set22:24
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salv-orlandook, I see.22:24
bhallso I think because of multiple sessions it didn't know how to reconcile? I dunno22:25
bhallI'm not that familiar with it, but add definitely works22:25
bhallso we're good to go now22:25
danwentsalv: 1576 still has a -1 on whitespace according to Rick Harris22:25
danwenthaven't checked out the patch myself.22:26
danwentOk, last call on e-222:26
salv-orlandoGuys please tell me where are this whitespaces22:26
salv-orlandoI can't find them :(22:26
danwentgerrit actually shows them22:26
danwentlook at run_pylint in run_tests.sh22:27
danwentthat is, the run_pylint() method22:27
danwentI see a couple tabs, and a few trailing whitespaces (both highlighted in red)22:27
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salv-orlandogosh I honestly thought we were pep8 checking only python modules :)22:27
salv-orlandodidn't know that extended to shell scripts as well...22:27
danwentsalv: that's fair :)  I think some people just hate whitespace22:28
bhallI think we check the READMEs too :)22:28
danwentyeah, this isn't a big deal…22:28
danwentOk, onto debo and the nova-parity cloudpipe vpn work22:29
debo-osi did send out hte proposal22:29
danwentsorry, i've been so slammed with e-2, I haven't had a chance to read it though22:29
debo-osplease  let me know ... there are some questions that I had22:29
danwentwill try to take a quick look tonight, as I know you said you have cycles this week.22:30
danwentwill do.  anything else on cloudpipe?22:30
danwentOk, CI infrastructure22:30
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carlpIt's still running, but that's about it :)22:30
danwentso, carlp, your jenkins server is ready go, just waiting on devstack config and some script to run integration tests?22:31
carlpdanwent: yep, that about sums it up22:31
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danwentok, well with any luck santa will break a nova + quantum + melange integration example :)22:31
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danwentI'm hoping to take a crack at it by early jan22:31
danwenthave moved the BPs to E-3.  thanks for you work on this.22:32
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carlpNo problem, I'm hoping to start cracking on it in Jan as well22:32
danwentwe also need to figure out our strategy for whether we split repos for E-3 as well.22:33
danwent#todo #danwent  send email on splitting repos to ML22:33
danwentOk, any questions on quantum or open discussion?22:33
danwentok, great work so far on reviews.  Just need a final push and we'll be in good shape.22:34
danwentthanks folks!22:34
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carlpthank you!22:34
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mtaylortroytoman-away: done22:35
mtaylortroytoman-away: sorry for the delay. I suck.22:35
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salv-orlandoBye, have a goo one22:35
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