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johnthetubaguy#startmeeting XenAPI15:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb 26 15:01:37 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is johnthetubaguy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'xenapi'15:01
johnthetubaguyhowdy15:01
johnthetubaguywho is around today?15:01
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johnthetubaguyI have a hard stop at 15.30, which I hope doesn't disrupt things15:02
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johnthetubaguy#topic Blueprints15:02
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johnthetubaguyOK, nothing here then15:06
johnthetubaguyPCI passthrough got merged at least15:06
johnthetubaguy#topic QA15:06
johnthetubaguywe need to monitor the bug queue, now we have blueprints merged15:06
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johnthetubaguy#help find the key bugs for icehouse and xenapi15:06
johnthetubaguy#info XenServer CI is happily reporting on patches now15:07
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johnthetubaguy#topic Open Discussion15:07
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johnthetubaguyOK, so its just me this week then15:07
johnthetubaguyGood bye mr meeting bot15:07
johnthetubaguy#endmeeting15:07
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Feb 26 15:07:31 2014 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:07
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2014/xenapi.2014-02-26-15.01.html15:07
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2014/xenapi.2014-02-26-15.01.txt15:07
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2014/xenapi.2014-02-26-15.01.log.html15:07
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DuncanTCinder meeting looks cancelled since there's nothing on the agenda16:04
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hartsocksWho's around?17:03
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dimso/17:03
vincent_houHi17:03
brownehere17:03
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hartsocks#startmeeting vmwareapi17:03
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb 26 17:03:54 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is hartsocks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:03
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hartsocksHi folks.17:04
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hartsocksWe're closing in on a blueprint deadline.17:04
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hartsocks#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Icehouse_Release_Schedule17:04
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hartsocksMarch 6th is the official FF for IceHouse … but I think it's good form for those of us with open blueprints to have things ready to go early.17:05
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hartsocksI've got about 5 blueprints I'm either contributing to or running down myself and 2 of them are going to be close.17:06
hartsocksBut on that note...17:06
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hartsocks#topic blueprints17:06
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hartsocksWho has a blueprint they need to discuss?17:06
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hartsocksBTW17:07
hartsocks#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vmware-subteam-icehouse17:07
vincent_houI have just registered a new one.17:07
hartsocksIt's past proposal deadline but if it is important enough we could get an exception17:07
hartsockslinke?17:07
hartsockslink/17:07
hartsocks?17:07
vincent_houhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/driver-specific-snapshot17:07
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vincent_houThe idea came from the vmware driver.17:08
vincent_houIt is an implementation of the snapshot, which could be specific to a certain driver.17:08
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vincent_houI know vmware has different implementation for snapshot.17:09
* hartsocks reading17:09
tjonesvincent_hou: any reason we couldn't push this to juno ?  just asking cause it's very late in the cycle17:10
hartsocksyeah. I was about to ask that.17:10
hartsocks#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vmware-subteam-juno17:10
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hartsocksI've placed that on the list for Juno. We've not prioritized yet.17:10
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hartsocksI've not looked at that pad recently so the statuses for Juno BP may be wrong.17:11
hartsocksvincent_hou: sound good?17:11
vincent_houYep17:12
hartsocksokay.17:12
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hartsocksI like the idea a lot.17:12
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vincent_houI have sent a mail to Shawn and Tracy before about some new features.17:13
hartsocksMaybe we can meet at the design summit and discuss it.17:13
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tjonessounds good17:13
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tjonessorry i have not gotten back to you - swammped with end of icehouse stff17:13
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tjonesstuff17:13
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garyksorry for joining late. stuck in traffic17:14
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hartsocksvincent_hou: yeah, this is a critical time for delivering icehouse code.17:14
hartsocksgaryk: welcome17:14
vincent_houtjones: that is OK.17:14
garykhi. thanks17:14
hartsocksSo with the icehouse deadline coming up… does anyone have any other blueprints they need to coordinate on? get help with? need reviews on?17:15
vincent_houhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/34903/17:16
garykwe seem to have been getting nice reviews lately. hope it continues17:16
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tjonesit sounded to me like deferral would be starting next week on BP that are done far enough along..17:17
vincent_houCan everyone take look at this?17:17
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garykvincent_hou: i will look at that tomorrow. last time i checked it looked good and it looks like you addressed most comments. tahnks!17:17
garykthanks17:17
vincent_hougreate17:17
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vincent_houthanks, Gary.17:17
johnthetubaguytjones: yep, we are deferring stuff that is not ready for core review already17:17
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hartsocks#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/deploy-vcenter-templates-from-vmware-nova-driver17:18
hartsocksvincent_hou: looks like that BP is already deferred to 'next'17:18
vincent_houOK.17:18
hartsocksyeah. sorry. both issues you brought up have already been pushed to Juno. It's very late in the cycle.17:19
garykthere could be a slight chance it gets in if we have enough karma (that is +1's or 2's)17:19
hartsockswe would have to apply for an approval exception17:20
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hartsocksFFE is what they are called17:21
hartsocks(if anyone didn't already know)17:21
hartsocksFeature Freeze Exception17:21
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tjonesjohnthetubaguy: when things are deferred would we expect them to disappear from https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/icehouse-317:24
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johnthetubaguytjones: unless I screwed up, yes17:25
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hartsocksIs there anything else to discuss on this topic? We can chat outside the meeting on #openstack-vmware if people need to discuss how to ask for an exception on the template blueprint.17:26
johnthetubaguytjones: the comments should describe why17:26
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tjonesim asking cause this one https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vmware-image-cache-management is still there, but the comment says moved to next and i know it's VERY close to merging (already has 1 +2)17:26
tjonesso i would have been surprised to see it defer17:27
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hartsocksjohnthetubaguy: above comment17:29
johnthetubaguytjones: looking17:29
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johnthetubaguytjones: target milestone and service goal are still icehouse, so I guess it got missed17:30
johnthetubaguywhich patches matter17:30
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tjonesjohnthetubaguy: most have merged already.  i think this is the last bit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56416/17:31
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johnthetubaguytjones: yes, but it depends on this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63933/3717:34
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tjonesjohnthetubaguy: ah yes i see that one now17:34
tjonesthose 217:34
garykjohnthetubaguy: yes, that is correct17:34
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garykthose 2 pacthes have been in revoe since middle of january.17:34
johnthetubaguyI updated the blueprint so its easy to see whats left now17:34
garykjohnthetubaguy: thanks!17:35
hartsocksawesome.17:35
johnthetubaguyno reason to defer that for sure17:35
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tjonesjohnthetubaguy: thanks17:35
garykgreat. wonderful news17:35
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hartsocksDo we have any other BP that need to be covered just now?17:36
vincent_hou I have got a few new features to add for VMware drivers, and I can make a list with links for them. Can I send to everyone for review tomorrow?17:37
vincent_houIs it ok for everyone?17:37
hartsocksvincient_hou: could you use #openstack-vmware for that?17:37
garykvincent_hou: can you please elaborate about the new features17:37
tjonesvincent_hou: sure - but realize that we are pretty focused on icehouse BP right now.  but we are happy to look at stuff and talk at the summit.  don;t want you to feel you are being ignored if we don;t reply quickly17:38
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vincent_houOK.17:38
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hartsocksvincient_hou: so, yeah. Lots of new feature talk needs to be deferred to Juno.17:38
rgerganovhi, sorry for being late17:38
hartsocksrgerganov: we were just finishing up blueprint talk for icehouse-317:39
rgerganovhartsocks, ok thanks17:39
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hartsocksSome folks may have work they want to bring up for Juno and may want to use the design summit time to discuss that.17:40
tjoneshartsocks: actually - we probably want to come up with the list head of the summit so we know what we want to discuss ;-)17:41
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vincent_houyes.17:41
hartsocks#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vmware-subteam-juno17:41
hartsocksyeah. I did mean *that*17:42
tjoneshartsocks: perfect17:42
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hartsocksSo let's see about what we want to try and do in Juno and prep for May's summit after the Feature Freeze has passed.17:42
hartsocksWe can use the etherpad to keep notes for later discussion.17:43
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hartsocksShall I move on to bugs?17:43
hartsocks#topic bugs17:43
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hartsockstjones: you're running the bug-scrub now any thing we should be more vigilant on?17:44
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tjonestagging would help - i found some obvious vmware ones that were not tagged.  we just tried to tag all untagged bugs today.  after that triage of vmware bugs17:45
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hartsocksI've been bad about keeping up on priority in the vmware queue lately. I'll take some time to examine the queue today.17:46
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hartsocks#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage17:46
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tjonesalso i have a report of bugs that are assigned but are not being touched.   we will be unassigning them so others can pick them up17:47
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tjonesparticularly new people looking for bugs to work on17:47
hartsocksnice17:47
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brownehow long is consider untouched?17:47
tjones2 months17:48
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tjonesi just made that number up but it seems right to me17:48
hartsocksthat's more than fair really17:48
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browneyep that's fine17:48
tjonesi'll do vmw bugs first and see if i get yelled at17:48
hartsocksheh17:48
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hartsocksI used to send a note via Launchpad every time I unassigned someone. I only ever caught flack once.17:49
hartsocksokay. so...17:50
hartsocks#topic open discusson17:50
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rgerganovwhat permissions do I need to set bug importance ?17:50
rgerganovI recently filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1284658 and I want to set it Low17:51
hartsocksdone17:51
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hartsocksI don't know what permission I got handed back in Havana but suddenly I've been given the awesome super power of setting bug priority.17:51
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garykyou need to join the nova bugs team then you can change the priorities17:52
tjoneswow!17:52
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rgerganovgaryk, thanks, that answer my question17:52
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hartsocksI guess someone must have just added me to the nova bugs team I don't think I knew to join.17:53
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hartsocksAlthough techincially17:53
hartsocks#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/128465817:53
hartsocksneeds to be triaged first17:54
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hartsocks+1 on the iterator idea though17:54
rgerganovhartsocks, yeah, I think an iterator would fit nicely here17:55
tjonesrgerganov: congrats on your vnc port merge17:55
rgerganovtjones, thanks17:55
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rgerganovndipanov was kind enough to review some of my work17:58
hartsocksany objection to ending 5 minutes early?17:58
hartsocksI think we all know what we need to focus on the next 7 days.17:58
hartsocksOkay. Thanks for attending the meeting everyone.17:58
ndipanovrgerganov, yeah - would like to see that refactoring soon... but really nice work17:59
hartsockswe're over on #openstack-vmware if folks still need to chat (and it doesn't fit on the main channels)18:00
hartsocksotherwise we need to yield the room18:00
hartsocks#endmeeting18:00
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hartsocksndipanov, rgerganov: sorry to cut you off there.18:00
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rgerganovhartsocks, no18:01
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rgerganovnp18:01
ndipanovhartsocks, no you're not - you liked it :)18:01
hartsockslol18:01
rgerganov:)18:01
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hartsocksI bet the FaaS people are taking the week off anyway18:01
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notmynameswift meeting time19:00
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notmyname#startmeeting swift19:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb 26 19:01:23 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'swift'19:01
pelusehello hello19:01
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notmynamehello!19:02
cschwedehello!19:02
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notmynameI'm taking a "break" from a day-long swift workshop in new york19:02
acoles-hi19:02
notmynameglad to see you here :-)19:02
notmyname#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift19:02
notmynameagenda ^19:02
torgomaticand you're running a meeting on it?19:03
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notmynameswift meetings on swift? :-)19:03
notmynameI'm just sitting down to the side. rdaly is taking over in the workshop now19:03
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torgomaticI was gonna put something snarky here about the definition of "break", but I see one definition is "to crush the spirit of", so that actually seems applicable to most meetings ;)19:03
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notmynamelol19:03
torgomaticcarry on19:04
notmynamenot mush was added to the agenda, but let's see if we can spur some conversation anyway19:04
notmyname#topic next week's meeting?19:04
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notmynamejust cause this will be fast19:04
notmynameI'll not be available for next week's meeting. would anyone else like to volunteer to lead it?19:05
notmynameif not, we can skip the meeting19:05
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notmynamehmm...not everyone at once ;-)19:06
notmynameok19:06
notmyname#vote meeting next week? yes, no19:06
luisbgnotmyname, unless there are new topics, it might be an empty meeting agenda like today19:07
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peluse#vote no19:07
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notmynamevotebot fail ;-)19:07
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torgomaticif there's nothing to discuss, let's not have a meeting19:07
notmynameok, let's assume no meeting next week19:07
notmynameindeed19:08
notmynamel#agreed no meeting next week (March 5)19:08
notmyname#agreed no meeting next week (March 5)19:08
notmyname#info no meeting next week (March 5)19:08
notmynamehmm19:08
notmynamewell then19:08
notmynameok, moving on. I think we got the point :-)19:08
portanteno bot support19:08
portante#no bot support19:09
notmynameI'll update the wiki19:09
notmyname#topic storage policy status19:09
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pelusefrom my end:  2 medium sized in need of reivew (starting to age)19:09
peluse1)  policy support for ssync19:09
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peluse2) new feature rol report per policy account usage19:09
torgomaticclayg and I keep going back and forth on how to do the reconciler19:09
torgomaticturns out it's tricky :)19:09
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peluseyou guys need a reconciler between the two of you?19:10
notmynamepeluse: can you give links for that?19:10
peluseyes19:10
notmynametorgomatic: it's simple. just to it the right way19:10
pelusehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/65347/19:10
pelusehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/73747/19:10
torgomaticnotmyname: exactly. https://xkcd.com/722/19:10
cschwedepeluse: I'll review the last one tomorrow morning - if that helps...19:11
peluseand Yuan has a few small swift client changes for policies as well https://review.openstack.org/#/c/73513/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/73920/19:11
notmynamea, I want to get to the swift client in a bit19:11
pelusecschwede:  that would be fantastic, thanks!19:11
notmynamecschwede: yes, thanks19:11
torgomaticpeluse: the account HEAD one may need to be rebased on top of some other stuff I'm doing that omits some of what's in the patch chain... I'll update you once I have working code and not just piles of garbage19:12
pelusetorgomatic:  OK - can do.  I have your last in the series as a dependency19:12
notmynametorgomatic: peluse: I added those patches to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews (in case anyone looks at that ;-)19:12
torgomaticpeluse: what I'm working on now keeps 1, 2, 3, and most of 5, but not 4, so...19:12
peluseOK, just let me know here to rebase from and I'll do it.  ETA?19:13
* peluse hopes for a small number of rebase based changes19:13
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torgomaticpeluse: shouldn't be too bad... I'm working on it today, so we'll see how that goes19:14
pelusetorgomatic:  thanks, will keep an eye out19:14
* torgomatic keeps getting interrupted by non-Swift stuff at work19:14
torgomatic(not including this meeting; this was *scheduled*)19:14
torgomaticthat's all I've got for status19:15
notmynamethanks19:15
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pelusenotmyname: I think those are all of the remaining policy patches (what we just discussed)19:15
notmynamegreat19:15
notmynamegood to know19:15
notmyname#topic dates19:15
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pelusealso, FYI, trello is up to date19:15
notmynameok a few things here (and following up on storage policies)19:15
notmynamepeluse: thanks19:16
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notmynameworking backwards, we'll need an RC for Icehouse by March 2819:16
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notmynamelooking at the merge to master of the featre/ec branch, that gives us about 5 weeks, i think19:17
pelusetic toc19:17
notmynameyes19:17
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* torgomatic loves time-based releases19:18
notmynamealso, looking at that, I marked master as swift 1.13 earlier this week. so we've got the RC for 1.13 out now. if nothing comes up, then tomorrow or friday will mark that as 1.1319:18
torgomaticno, wait, not love... the other one19:18
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notmynamethat gives us a checkpoint of features before storage policies land19:18
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pelusenotmyname:  I can come out to SanFran for a day if we want to all clear our calendars and knock out the last reviews and try to come to consensus on the reconclier if that would help19:19
notmynamethe importance of the icehouse release is the huge availability and marketing boost that the feature gets when it's included19:19
notmynametorgomatic: thoughts on that? ^19:19
torgomaticnotmyname: the splutterings and facial expressions don't serialize well to text19:20
notmyname:-)19:20
notmynametorgomatic: peluse: ok, we'll discuss that later. let's say "maybe" now19:20
peluseOK, via email - let me know19:20
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* portante Red Hat would like to see such an effort on review done for acc/con backend19:21
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notmynameportante: ya, good point19:21
notmynameportante: noted19:21
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peluseportante:  FYI I reviewed it and had some questions, looks like its in need of rebase at the moment19:21
portantepeluse: great19:21
portantehopefully zaitcev will chime in on current state19:21
portantewhen we get to that part of the meeting ... ;)19:22
notmynameheh, ok19:22
peluseit was good learning and I plan on going over it again after zaitcev's responses19:22
notmynameany other questions on upcoming dates?19:22
notmynameok19:22
notmyname#topic open reviews19:23
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notmynamethere was a bug reported about swiftclient 2.x not supporting manifests19:23
notmynameany news on that?19:23
torgomaticjust tried it; seems to fix things19:23
notmynamewhen that's fixed, I can cut a 2.0.319:23
notmynametorgomatic: patch in gerrit?19:23
cschwedehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/76102/19:24
torgomaticnotmyname: yes19:24
zaitcevpeluse: I'll redo it today and reply to your questions. I was sadly behind on EC as well... soo... I'll reply you on PBE first and then circle back to policies branch, see what's left.19:24
notmynameah, cool. thanks clayg19:24
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notmynameand zaitcev just answered my next question :-)19:24
pelusezaitcev:  thanks!19:24
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* portante apologizes profusely for having to drop off of swift reviews for the last three weeks19:26
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notmynameportante: looking forward to having you back :-)19:26
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notmynamewhat other open reviews do we have now that need to be addressed here?19:26
portantecan't wait to run up that review queue19:26
notmyname:-)19:26
torgomaticstraw poll on the py3-support ones in Swift: do folks like them, dislike them, or are indifferent to them?19:27
* torgomatic doesn't like them at all19:27
portantetorgomatic: the ones that are outstanding for review?19:28
notmynameI see them as code churn that doesn't do anything effective yet19:28
torgomaticportante: yeah, the pile of those that has shown up in the last few days19:28
torgomaticnotmyname: completely agreed19:28
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zaitcevI don't mind py3, but they seem like avoiding the really tough problems of unicode, so they do nothing to help us move over to py3 if we ever decide on it.19:29
notmynameif we know we can't support py3 because of dependencies, then it's hard to justify code churn of that magnified19:29
torgomaticso if nobody really loves them, I'll keep on rejecting them; I just want to make sure there's not strong positive feelings about py3 stuff RIGHT NOW19:29
portanteI don't mind them, if they ensure changes are 100% covered, and every module touched is brought up to 100% coverage, and functional tests are written to exercise the code changed19:29
zaitcevWe can convert all the print statements and then fail in the end due to utf-819:29
notmynameI'm scared of similar things that we had with the hacking changes that removed bare excepts19:29
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cschwedeportante: that's a  very long wish list ;-)19:29
notmynamecschwede: thanks ok :-)19:30
notmynamecschwede: *that's19:30
portanteI think of it as cost of entry for changes like that19:30
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cschwedeportante: well, i strongly agree on that, more tests first!19:30
portanteif somebody just wants to refactor code and does not offer real test improvement to offset possible issues introduced with changes, then ...19:30
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zaitcevAlex brought up the last py3 thing, so I take it his actual position of py3 is that of acceptance despite his blog posturing.19:30
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notmynameeh19:31
notmynameheh19:31
notmynameportante: zaitcev: did you want to spend explicit time on the storage backends stuff?19:31
portanteyes19:32
zaitcevnotmyname: absolutely, anything that helps19:32
notmyname#topic stoage backends19:32
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notmyname#topic storage backends19:32
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zaitcevoh19:32
notmyname:-)19:32
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notmynamehistorically, changes like this have benefited from in-person meetings19:33
portanteso Red Hat really wants to see this acc/con backends land19:33
portanteagreed19:33
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portantethis particular patch set has been out for a long time19:33
portantewe'd like to work how to get it landed19:33
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zaitcevThe status is that we had the patch outstanding for a while and I poked and prodded Luis, the actual consumer of it on Gluster side, to agree to it despite some reservations.19:33
portantemy management has asked us to convey that priority clearly19:33
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notmynameportante: thanks19:34
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portantewe can do more work on our end to demonstrate the patch readiness and consumability, too19:34
notmynameok19:34
portantebut, notmyname, I think you are right, f-2-f really helps with this kind of thing19:34
zaitcevI think the patch will serve Gluster's needs, e.g. it's complete as far as APIs go, and thus it should be a good basis for other possible users. Of course I did my best to keep it being generic in mind.19:34
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zaitcevLuis' desire was for better documentation in that he wanted an abstract class with docstrings.19:35
zaitcevInstead, we compromised on mem_backend.py, from which new backends can copy-paste big chunks if they want.19:35
zaitcevEven got tests :-)19:36
notmynamezaitcev: can you get it rebased against master soon?19:36
zaitcevnotmyname: I'll get right on it19:36
notmynamethanks19:36
pelusesorry - who is Luis?19:36
notmynamepeluse: gluster-swift person19:36
zaitcev(althogh my wife is hovering around and prods me to go eat after this meeting)19:36
pelusethanks19:36
notmynamezaitcev: that's ok, I'm just going to go back to workshop and meetup after this ;-)19:37
notmynameok, anything else on this topic?19:37
notmynameportante: zaitcev: ?19:37
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portantenotmyname: not from me19:38
acoles-out of curiosity is there any precedence for face to face between summits?19:38
portantelet's start there19:38
notmynameok19:38
notmynameacoles-: yes, we had one last fall in auston19:38
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notmynameand we'll have another after atlanta (I'm working with peluse on logistics now)19:38
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notmynameacoles-: and there have been some one-off things19:39
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notmynamesome of which I've been a part of and some I haven't19:39
acoles-notmyname: yeah , i wondered if the hackathon thing might repeat19:39
notmynameacoles-: ya, I think we all want it to19:39
notmyname#topic open discussion19:39
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notmynamebetter topic for it, or anything else19:40
acoles-another quick question from me...19:40
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acoles-anyone aware of activity on keystone v3 support in swift19:40
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acoles-swiftclient?19:40
notmynameacoles-: I don't know of any. cschwede?19:41
zaitcevNot me. But if anyone brings up a patch, I'll be happy to look.19:41
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notmynamein swiftclient (there shouldn't be anything in swift itself AFAIK)19:41
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acoles-yep that was a typo :)19:41
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cschwedeacoles-: notmyname will have a look19:41
torgomaticif any of that stuff leaks into swift, we've done something wrong :)19:41
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zaitcevWell, about that, guys.19:42
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acoles-cshwede: thanks19:42
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zaitcevI am not sure that keeping authtoken in Keystone is so great, in view what I had to do to make it webob-free.19:42
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notmynamezaitcev: isnt' that used by every project?19:43
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cschwedenotmyname: no, afaik only swift?19:43
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zaitcevwell that was the theory19:43
notmynamecschwede: that's news to me, then.19:43
morganfainbergcschwede, notmyname auth_token only used by swift?19:44
morganfainberg auth_token is used by all projects afaik19:44
notmynamemorganfainberg: that was my assumption19:44
morganfainbergit does the decode of tokens/talks to keystone (uuid tokens) to get info for context19:44
morganfainbergit is absolutely used by all the integrated projects and many of the others19:45
notmynamebut there is a 2nd piece that is in swift to map the keystone identity info to swift things (which is right)19:45
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cschwedekeystoneclient / middleware / auth_token.py ?19:45
zaitcevwell, but there must be something that sets req.environ['swift.authorize'], right? Maybe not the auth_token obviously, but something.19:45
morganfainbergcschwede. ye19:45
morganfainbergzaitcev, that is likely swift only19:45
notmynamezaitcev: that's the keystoneauth middleware inside of swift's codebase19:45
morganfainbergsorry was just jumping in :)19:45
cschwedehmm, sorry, maybe i'm remembering something wrong.19:46
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zaitcevIn that case, never mind. I realized I'm wasting our time.19:46
notmynamezaitcev: don't feel bad. good questions19:46
notmynameok, anything else to discuss here this week?19:46
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luisbgany low hanging fruit new contributors could help with?19:47
zaitcevwait, I realized what I meant to ask19:47
zaitcevDoes v3 affect keystoneauth?19:47
notmynamezaitcev: that I do not know19:47
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notmynameI would assume no. ie it shouldn't19:47
notmynameanyone still here?19:47
torgomatickind of19:47
luisbgo/19:47
peluseyeah19:47
acoles-here19:47
thurloat\o19:47
notmynameok19:48
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portanteo/19:48
cschwedehere19:48
notmynamezaitcev: I don't think it should affect keystoneauth19:48
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zaitcevI'm looking at the code, sorry. Trying to figure out quickly. If it does NOT talk to Keystone, then it does not care, as long as authtoken sets the token for v3 that's like the one before, only maybe longer.19:49
notmynamezaitcev: ok. thanks for looking19:49
notmynamezaitcev: do you need some help looking there?19:49
morganfainbergzaitcev, if keystoneauth middleware also talks to keystone let me know if you guys need help unwinding it - you shouldn't need to talk to keystone two ways (auth_token should provide what oyu need)19:50
zaitcevno, I think we need someone try and run with v3 (by modding swiftclient) and see what happens19:50
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notmynamemorganfainberg: thanks19:50
notmynamezaitcev: ah, ok19:50
zaitcevright, what morganfainberg said.19:50
zaitcevI just don't want to be responsible for action item "implement and test v3 in Swift"19:50
zaitcevwell maybe after PBE lands :-)19:51
notmynameheh19:51
notmynameso Real Soon Now (tm)19:51
acoles-zaitcev: i'll try to dig into it a bit more19:51
acoles-but concur that v3 shouldn't have impact on keystoneauth19:52
notmynameacoles-: thanks19:52
notmynameok, anything else on this topic or others?19:52
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portantenothing here19:52
torgomaticnope19:53
pelusenope19:53
luisbgI have a question19:53
notmynameluisbg: what's up19:53
luisbgwhat is the policy for people stepping into already assigned bugs?19:53
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notmynameluisbg: many times the assignee has vanished19:54
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notmynameluisbg: if you have a fix, don't let lauchpad prevent you from a patch :-)19:54
luisbgnotmyname, the contrary happened to me19:54
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notmynameluisbg: and competing code is good19:54
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luisbgcompeting code is good when you have work force to spare19:54
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torgomaticfor me, if I'm just looking to fix things, I'll skip over bugs with owners, but if a customer of mine is impacted by something, I'm fixing it regardless of who else is looking at it19:55
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luisbgnothing big happened, I had only spent 30 minutes on something before somebody else sent a patch to a bug assigned to me19:55
luisbgso not complaining, I understand19:55
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luisbgjust realized the policy isn't clearly stated, and new contributors might be pushed away by this19:55
torgomaticand if someone submits a patch for something I'm working on, well, between the two of us I hope we have fewer bugs :)19:55
notmynameluisbg: good observation19:55
luisbgnotmyname, stating this since it is more prone to happen with low hanging fruit19:56
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notmynameright19:56
luisbgwhich is usually the learning ropes of new people19:56
* peluse wishes someone would jump in and do some of my work :)19:56
notmynameluisbg: thanks for jumping in as a new contributor :-)19:56
luisbgpeluse, hahaa19:56
notmynamepeluse: so I was designing a new CPU....19:56
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peluseexcellent!19:56
luisbgnotmyname, I am new to Swift but not new to Open Source, which is why it didn't push me away :P19:56
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acoles-luisbg: well said19:57
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luisbgbut still think some of my experiences could help future new contributors, and making their road easier, which eventually means more contributors19:57
luisbghigher keep rate19:57
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notmynameluisbg: if you want to add something to the swift wiki, that's ok19:58
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notmynameok, I gotta run. thanks everyone for attending. see you day-to-day in IRC. reminder that we'll skip next week19:58
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notmyname#endmeeting19:58
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zaitcevI think I had bugs taken from me because I was taking too long, but I cannot recall what it was exactly. I think it was the SSL causing swiftclient to spin.19:58
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stevebaker#startmeeting heat20:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb 26 20:00:09 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is stevebaker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'heat'20:00
stevebaker#topic rollcall20:00
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stevebaker#topic Review last meeting's actions20:01
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stevebakertherve to update https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/parameter-nested-schema20:02
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stevebakerI've kicked that from i-3 anyway, so it no longer matters20:02
stevebaker#topic Adding items to the agenda20:02
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sdake_o/20:02
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stevebaker#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282014-2-26.2920:02
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stevebakeranything to add? we're probably all quite busy with feature freeze20:03
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Slowero/20:03
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stevebaker#topic Policy for managing syncing from Oslo20:03
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stevebaker#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74635/20:03
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stevebakerjpeeler: I assume shardy_afk added this, but you had the same objection20:04
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jpeeleri added that - i don't know what other projects do but i think it would be good to do regular syncing and stop doing single file updates20:04
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stevebakerdhellmann_: are you about to discuss oslo sync script?20:04
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jpeeleri asked in the channel and people had mixed feelings, so i added it to the agenda20:05
zanebjpeeler: +120:05
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stevebakerjpeeler: single file updates are fine, cherry-picking single changes is probably what we want to avoid20:05
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zanebstevebaker: I disagree20:05
jpeelerwhy though?20:05
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jpeelerseems like a recipe for potential problems20:06
zanebwhy wouldn't we update everything when we need a change?20:06
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zanebit has to be done eventually anyway20:07
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zaneblet the person who is most motivated have to do it20:07
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stevebakerzaneb: nova (for example) have got themselves into a situation where they are so out of sync that updating everything causes multiple breakages due to oslo api changes20:08
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zanebstevebaker: so let's avoid that20:08
jpeelerright20:08
randallburtstevebaker:  which seems like a situation we would want to avoid20:08
zanebby making sure we stay in sync20:08
stevebakerin my ideal world update.py will create one heat commit per oslo commit, so if and when that happens then breakage can be tracked to a commit20:09
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stevebakerI believe that is happening but I have no idea where progress is at20:09
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zanebthat sounds nothing like the world we live in ;)20:09
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sdake_don't think update.py does that :)20:10
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stevebakerso how about for now we run python update.py --modules <module> once for each module, and create a commit per run20:11
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sdake_please don't update rpc20:11
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zanebstevebaker: ugh, no20:11
stevebakersdake_: ;)20:11
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sdake_i guess my theory is if it isn't broken, why fix it :)20:12
sdake_the review in question, something is broken20:12
SpamapSo/20:12
zaneblet's assume at the very least oslo is internally consistent at any given revision20:12
jpeelerwe've had to backport changes because we were out of sync20:12
zaneband then not go out of our way to break it20:12
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sdake_some of the updated files need modification after update.py is run as well20:13
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jpeelersdake_: even more reason to not let it get out of date in my opinion20:14
stevebakershall we do a sync, but defer it to after feature freeze?20:14
stevebakerjust due to the review load20:14
jpeelerit's not a one time thing though - it doesn't need to be done right now20:14
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jpeelerjust in the future, some specified interval would be good20:15
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zanebrelease milestones seem like the obvious times to do it20:16
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zanebbut milestones don't really seem to work that way in OpenStack20:16
sdake_zaneb you mean AFTER a milestone20:16
zanebsdake_: yes20:16
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zanebso after i-2 we would update to the i-2 version of oslo20:16
zanebfor example20:16
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stevebakerso what is the action from this?20:17
sdake_some modules depend on others20:17
zanebbut I actually think the current system works fine: whenever somebody needs something new from oslo, they sync the whole thing20:17
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sdake_it is not as simple as updating one module per commit20:17
zanebthat ensures we keep relatively up to data20:17
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zanebdate20:18
jpeelerzaneb: as long as that is enforced20:18
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zanebjpeeler: indeed20:18
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Slowermakes sense to me20:18
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stevebakerso we're syncing after i-3, unless someone proposes it before and we have time to review it?20:19
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sdake_please don't sync notifier or rpc20:20
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sdake_TIA :)20:20
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stevebakerok, moving on20:21
stevebaker#topic Feature freeze blueprints status20:21
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stevebaker#link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/icehouse-320:21
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stevebakerEOB March 4th is feature freeze!20:21
SpamapSugh20:22
stevebakerwe can ask for extensions on specific blueprints, but those blueprints will need to be marked High priority20:22
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SpamapSWas hoping I'd get a couple days at the TripleO sprint to jam some patches in20:22
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stevebakerwe have a lot of reviewing to do20:22
SpamapSstevebaker: you coming to that? We need to get moving on softwareconfig....20:23
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stevebakerSpamapS: nopes, but I expect many polish bug fixes to make it work for you20:24
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SpamapSstevebaker: ok.. I'm reviewing the whole patch stream today.20:24
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stevebakerSpamapS: ok, expect completed structured config today20:25
stevebakerSpamapS: then I'll rework a tripleo template20:25
zanebstevebaker: why do only Polish bugs get fixed?20:25
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SpamapSzaneb: politics....20:25
stevebakerzaneb: :)20:26
stevebakerI shall reverse my polish notation20:26
SpamapSbe proud, yoda would20:26
sdake_oslo.messaging status -> 56 test cases fail, most API calls seem to work, multi-engine works, just need to beat the test cases into submission20:27
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sdake_jasond also asked for a refactor of service.py before I further refactor it in the oslo.messaging patch that I'll look into after the test cases pass20:27
zanebhow would folks feel about sneaking in pluggable template parsers before the feature freeze?20:28
stevebaker17 blueprints are in review, if you're looking for guidelines on what to review first I guess it would be best to go for blueprint Priority first20:28
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stevebakerzaneb: are there changes for it?20:29
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zanebstevebaker: it's going to be fairly minimal changes beyond what I already have posted patches for20:29
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stevebakerbtw the heat-slow job is reasonably stable right now, so if your change fails on heat-slow you should check to see if it was your change that caused it20:30
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stevebakerzaneb: I don't think I mind20:31
zanebok, I will post it when it's done and we will see what happens in the reviews20:31
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stevebaker#topic open discussion20:31
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SpamapSAs far as "stuff to get in late" ...20:32
SpamapSI'm pretty sure we _must_ have manual retry ability in TripleO.20:32
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SpamapSupdate is basically a death sentence without it.20:33
zanebSpamapS: retry of what, specifically?20:33
SpamapSzaneb: update20:33
sdake_is there a blueprint for that?20:33
SpamapSyes20:33
zanebthere is, it got bumped20:33
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SpamapSIt got bumped, because ETOOHARD .. but I think it is too important ..20:33
stevebakerSpamapS: is it possible to do all updates with rollback enabled?20:34
zanebit got bumped because ENOTIME20:34
* radix arrives20:34
SpamapSThe alternative is if we make abandon/adopt work, we can write some magic to fix broken things in the abandoned dump file and re-adopt the stack.20:34
SpamapSstevebaker: no20:34
sdake_SpamapS who was assigned to the blueprint?20:34
SpamapSzaneb: I'm about to make time for it.20:34
zanebsdake_: I was20:34
zaneb /am20:35
SpamapSBasically our CD tripleo cloud dies every 8 hours or so because of random 500 errors from overloaded nova-api or neutron-server.20:35
stevebakerzaneb: I'm assuming the change would be too disruptive for it to be flagged as a bug, even though it really is20:35
SpamapSNow, I _also_ think we should handle those by just retrying... but we need a way to recover from the cases we don't handle well or that are completely unexpected and unhandleable.20:35
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sdake_I guess what we dont want is tripleo being nonfunctional for 6 months until Juno is released20:35
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SpamapSsdake_: IMO this is Heat being non-functional20:36
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SpamapScreate is fine..20:36
SpamapSbut updates are where the money is at ;)20:36
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zanebSpamapS: I feel your pain. The problem, as you know, is that Heat ends up with inconsistent data. I'm not sure what a short-term solution looks like that doesn't make things worse20:36
SpamapSzaneb: Yeah, I took a stab at a spike.. storing the snippets in resources and then when loading a stack, overlaying the stored snippets on the loaded template.20:37
SpamapSzaneb: worked, but it was really hard to test.20:37
SpamapSwhich told me "you have just created a monster"20:37
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stevebakerSpamapS: are we talking updates that do replacements? surely if replacements are avoided then handling the case of an inline update failing would be easier20:38
sdake_anyone have a link to the blueprint?20:38
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zanebstevebaker: additions/removals are the worst20:38
zanebwe can lose the resources altogether20:38
SpamapSstevebaker: right, as zaneb says.. just adding a server .. removing an object.. haphazard.20:39
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zanebsdake_: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/update-failure-recovery20:39
radixreplacements are implemented as add-then-delete, right?20:39
radix(currently I mean)20:39
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SpamapSAt the moment we fail and don't roll back successfully, the thing in the database (raw template) is completely non-indicative of what is actually in existence.20:40
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SpamapSSo one way to handle this... is to abandon the stack...20:40
SpamapSand then edit the abandoned stack dump to reflect actual reality...20:40
SpamapSand then adopt20:40
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zanebradix: yes, but in that case the resource name stays the same, so we won't actually lose it.20:40
zanebradix: it's not without issues though20:41
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radixSpamapS: yeah, abandandon/adopt allow for all sorts of cool hacks to work around limitations in heat ;)20:41
SpamapSanyway20:41
SpamapSI know time is short..20:41
SpamapSand this is not without risk.20:41
zanebradix: true! :) Although, let's not forget it works by allowing us to blame the user when it goes wrong20:42
zaneb;)20:42
SpamapSbut I think users are really in a bad place without it if they don't know exactly what they're getting into.20:42
radixheh heh20:42
SpamapSSo just raising my hand and sayign "this may get ugly soon"20:42
zanebSpamapS: I think you are on the right track20:43
SpamapSIt has been tough for me to focus on it, as I've also been trying to follow hot-software-config and piggy back my graceful-update-control thing on that.20:43
radixso are we talking about something for icehouse? (sorry I came into the conversation late)20:43
stevebakerSpamapS: so since you do CI, feature freeze is a window where you don't get anything but fixes, but as soon as juno opens then you can use landed features again20:43
zaneband I don't think this getting it in will make it harder to clean up later, so +120:43
SpamapSbut I feel like hot-software-config is going to make our life easier for graceful updates20:43
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zanebbut get it in soon, because realistically there will probably be bugs to deal with20:44
sdake_5 days - tight20:44
SpamapSright, as soon as I have a clear short term plan for graceful updates I'll put my head down on this20:44
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stevebakeranything else? we can finish early20:46
SpamapS\o/ use this 13 minutes for reviews everyone. :)20:47
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stevebaker#action everyone uses 780 extra seconds to do code reviews20:48
stevebaker#endmeeting20:48
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eglynn#startmeeting ceilometer20:59
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb 26 20:59:59 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is eglynn. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer'21:00
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eglynnhey folks, I'll be channelling jd__ this evening21:00
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eglynnagenda as per usual: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MeteringAgenda21:00
eglynn#topic Milestone status icehouse-321:01
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eglynnfolks, I suspect ttx has been bending jd__'s ear about icehouse-3 progress21:01
ildikov_just a kind reminder: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/ceilometer+branch:master+topic:bp/complex-filter-expressions-in-api-queries,n,z :)21:01
dhellmanno/21:01
eglynnwe're down to wire in terms of BPs making it for i321:01
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eglynn#link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/icehouse-321:02
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eglynnanything that isn't as good as in the bag by week's end will I suspect be culled21:02
eglynndoes anyone want to draw attention to anything they consider a risk?21:03
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eglynnwe have two BPs still with 'Started' status21:03
eglynn#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/monitoring-network-from-opendaylight21:04
eglynn#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/hbase-tests-on-real-backend21:04
gordceglynn: the first bp is actually partially implemented21:04
eglynngordc: cool21:04
eglynnanyone got a status on hbase-tests-on-real-backend?21:04
gordcthe 2nd patchset needs to be reviewed.21:04
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llu-laptopany patches for the first high one https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/alarm-on-notification?21:05
eglynnI've updated the status on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/monitoring-network-from-opendaylight to 'slow progress'21:06
eglynnllu-laptop: yeap, litong has proposed patches21:06
eglynn... but there was some disagreement on the best approach to the implementation21:06
eglynn... so, somewhat contraversial21:06
gordceglynn: is that at risk for icehouse?21:06
dhellmanngordc: given gate delays and the monday deadline, anything controversial is probably at risk21:07
eglynngordc: I haven't looked at the latest patch set yet, but if it's still not using the events API then I think it is a risk21:07
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gordcdhellmann: yeah, that's what i was thinking... so basically all bp patches come monday are getting red x? minus the critical item21:08
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dhellmanngordc: right, unless jd__ wants to file for a FFE for something that's close21:09
eglynndhellmann: agreed, we "landable" patches to be proposed to gerrit by EoD tmrw or absolute latest on Friday for it to be a realistic propospect for icehouse21:09
dhellmannright21:09
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gordci would suggest we target the items in 'needs code review' for now.21:09
eglynndhellmann: yep, there is the possibility of FFEs being negotiated21:09
eglynn(for havana we got a couple of those, but we can't rely on that again)21:10
eglynnso anyone with implementation work outstanding (myself included) will have to be looking at end of week as the drop-dead cut-off21:11
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eglynn... and of course I'd encourage folks to dedicate any bandwidth they can sapre to reviewing21:12
eglynn... please be selective in your reviews: choose icehouse-3 focused first, and BP-oriented over bug-fixes21:13
eglynn... bug-fixes will be easy to land post-i3, featurefull patches not so much21:13
ildikov_what about refactoring code? :)21:14
gordchmm... i thought there was a test against real db bp which was critical priority... i guess that got pulled.21:15
eglynnildikov_: that too, if it addressing clear and present technical debt21:15
eglynnildikov_: (which your db2/mongo dupe-squashing clearly is)21:15
ildikov_gordc: that one is the third patch set, query worked for the last time21:15
eglynngordc: yeah, you're right, it was critical ... must have been punted to Juno21:16
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eglynnk, anything else on icehouse-3?21:17
eglynn(other than ... ladies and gentlemen, please fire up your reviewing engines!)21:17
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ildikov_gordc: I mentioned the new in operator to tongli, he didn't say anything against, but it can be fixed, if it would not work21:17
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gordcildikov_: which item is this? the in operator doesn't work for db2?21:18
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gordceglynn: i think we can move on... ildikov_ we can discuss over in openstack-ceilometer.21:19
ildikov_gordc: the in operator was merged after tongli tested the second patch, I told him that I rebased all the remaining patch sets21:19
eglynngordc: cool, makes sense21:19
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eglynnso a few more days in heads-down mode from us all will make a big dent in the backlog for icehouse-321:20
eglynn... so I'd encourage a full-court-press if poss21:20
eglynnk, moving on21:20
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eglynn#topic Tempest integration21:20
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ildikov_gordc: sure, we can move on21:20
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eglynn_nadya_ . There is no Tempest update on this week from our side unfortunately :( I will start work on tempest stuff on next week21:20
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eglynnanything else on tempest?21:21
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silehteglynn, latest nova fix for notification have been merged yesterday21:21
eglynnsileht: excellent!21:21
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eglynn#topic Release python-ceilometerclient?21:22
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eglynnI don't think there's a need for that yet21:22
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eglynnI've a couple patches in the works for the selectable aggregates21:23
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ildikov_we have some client code prepared for complex query: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-ceilometerclient+branch:master+topic:bp/complex-filter-expressions-in-api-queries,n,z21:23
eglynnplus possible the new capabilities API I've proposed21:23
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eglynnildikov_: nice!21:23
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eglynnk, let's aim to cut ceiloclient 1.0.10 once the complex query & selectable aggregate patches land21:24
ildikov_so if anyone is interested in have look at, we will appriciate the feedback :)21:24
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eglynnas long as 1.0.10 is vaguely lined with icehouse, should be fine21:24
ildikov_eglynn: nice release number :)21:24
ildikov_eglynn: sounds good21:24
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eglynns/vaguely lined/vaguely lined up/21:25
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eglynn#topic Open discussion21:25
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psumkinhi all I'm Pavel Sumkin. I work in Mirantis, you may know Nadya Privalova _nadya_ from Mirantis. We have 2 full-time developers (I'm _psumkin_ and Leonid Kornilenko _le089_) for Ceilometer. I hope we will strengthen the team soon.21:25
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eglynnpsumkin: welcome! yep, we certainly do know Nadya21:26
llu-laptopwelcome, psumkin21:26
terriyuwelcome psumkin21:26
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ildikov_welcome :)21:26
psumkintnks!21:27
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eglynnI'd encourage everyone again to look at the Atlanta summit proposals related to ceilometer and vote for whichever ones take your fancy21:28
eglynn#link https://www.openstack.org/vote-atlanta/SearchForm21:28
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eglynn^^^ type ceilometer in the search box above21:28
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eglynngood for the project's visibility to have as many ceilo-related presos in the conference track as possible21:29
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terriyueglynn: got it!21:29
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eglynnalso it'll soon be time to get your thinking caps on re. design summit sessions21:31
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eglynnok, looks like we're running out of open discussion here21:32
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eglynn... last call?21:32
eglynn... going, going ...21:32
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eglynn... gone21:32
eglynn#endmeeting21:32
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Feb 26 21:32:57 2014 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)21:32
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eglynnthanks y'alL!21:33
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